Glassie v. Doucette ( 2022 )


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  •            United States Court of Appeals
    For the First Circuit
    No. 21-1761
    GEORGIA GLASSIE,
    Plaintiff, Appellant,
    v.
    PAUL DOUCETTE; JOHN TAFT; and THOMAS GLASSIE,
    Defendants, Appellees.
    APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF RHODE ISLAND
    [Hon. Mary S. McElroy, U.S. District Judge]
    Before
    Lynch and Kayatta, Circuit Judges,
    and Laplante,* District Judge.
    Jeffrey K. Techentin, with whom Adler Pollock & Sheehan P.C.
    was on brief, for appellant.
    Christine K. Bush, with whom Gerald J. Petros, Laurel M.
    Gilbert, and Hinckley Allen & Snyder LLP were on brief, for
    appellee Doucette.
    Keith B. Kyle, Catherine A. Shaghalian, and Orson and Brusini
    Ltd. on brief for appellee Taft.
    Harris K. Weiner on brief for appellee Glassie.
    December 5, 2022
    *   Of the District of New Hampshire, sitting by designation.
    KAYATTA, Circuit Judge.          This case arises out of a
    prolonged and acrimonious family dispute over the property of the
    late hotelier Donelson Glassie, whose estate remains in probate in
    Rhode Island eleven years after his death.           The question here is
    whether plaintiff has managed to drag the federal courts into the
    fray.    For the following reasons, we must answer "yes."
    I.
    A.
    Donelson   Glassie   was     a    successful,    twice-married
    hotelier.1     His first marriage produced two children, Elizabeth
    and Thomas Glassie.2      His second marriage produced three more,
    including    Georgia (the plaintiff in this case).3          Georgia alleges
    that the children of the second marriage are looked down upon by
    the children of the first marriage, and referred to derisively as
    "the Jamestown clan."
    Donelson executed a will in 1999, naming as executor
    Elizabeth's husband, Paul Doucette.           Rather than allocating equal
    interests in Donelson's assets to each child, the will divvies up
    certain businesses and the estate residuum among the children of
    1  We draw these facts from the operative complaint and accept
    them as true for purposes of this appeal.
    2  We follow the parties' briefs and refer to certain parties
    by first names to avoid confusion. We mean no disrespect.
    3  Donelson later had another child who is not mentioned in
    the will.
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    both marriages and Donelson's former business partner, John Taft,
    in varying percentages.       As a result, transactions that reallocate
    value among the Donelson businesses and the estate residuum can
    affect the relative value of the parties' bequests differently.
    According to Georgia, Doucette, with the assistance of Taft and
    Thomas, has exploited that reallocation potential by engaging in
    transactions involving the Donelson businesses and the estate that
    effectively transfer value from the interests held by Georgia and
    her siblings to the benefit of the others, namely Elizabeth,
    Thomas, and Taft (the so-called "favored beneficiaries").
    B.
    Georgia brought suit in the federal district court for
    the District of Rhode Island. Her complaint advances the following
    claims:
    First, she alleges that Doucette, Taft, and Thomas are
    liable to her under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt
    Organizations ("RICO") laws, 
    18 U.S.C. § 1962
    .             In support of that
    claim, she alleges that those defendants formed an enterprise that
    engaged in a pattern of fraudulent interstate communications in
    negotiating and obtaining bank loans.           As an example, she points
    to   a   $50 million   loan   from    M&T    Bank   to   Mid-Manhattan   Hotel
    Associates LLC, an entity wholly owned by a company in which the
    estate holds a 58% interest.         The favored beneficiaries' interests
    in Mid-Manhattan are greater than Georgia's. Georgia alleges that,
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    using Doucette's power as executor, the enterprise fraudulently
    took out a loan on behalf of Mid-Manhattan that was guaranteed by
    the estate and which was used to collect interest payments from
    the   estate.       Georgia     alleges       that      these     acts    essentially
    transferred value from the remainder of the estate -- in which
    Georgia has a 10% interest -- to Mid-Manhattan and, by extension,
    its parent company, in which Georgia has only a 4% interest (and
    in which defendants hold larger interests).                     Georgia also points
    to a $22 million loan from OceanFirst Bank, guaranteed by the
    estate, to fund Historic Inns of New York, LLC.                     The estate owns
    a controlling 61% interest in Historic Inns; favored beneficiaries
    own a significant portion of the remaining interest, while Georgia
    holds only a 2% interest.             Georgia contends that to obtain both
    loans, the defendants lied to Georgia and to the banks.
    Second,      Georgia       alleges    that    in     their    capacity    as
    managing   members      of   Historic      Inns,       all    defendants       breached
    fiduciary duties owed to her as a minority member of the LLC by
    surreptitiously     entering      a    loan     transaction       that    effectively
    transferred     value    away     from     Georgia        and     to     the    favored
    beneficiaries.
    Third,    Georgia      alleges       that    Doucette       (as     executor)
    breached fiduciary duties owed to Georgia (as a beneficiary) by
    engaging in transactions designed to favor other beneficiaries to
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    her   detriment     and     by    concealing    and     misrepresenting     facts
    concerning his actions as executor.
    Fourth, Georgia alleges that all defendants breached the
    Operating Agreement for Historic Inns by causing Historic Inns to
    borrow money without following the proper procedures, and by
    amending the Operating Agreement without a meeting or consent of
    non-managing members.
    Fifth, Georgia alleges that all defendants negligently
    omitted and/or misrepresented information regarding the actions
    they took in securing the Historic Inns loan and amending the
    Historic Inns Operating Agreement.
    Sixth, Georgia alleges that all defendants committed
    fraud by failing to disclose the actions they took in securing the
    Historic   Inns    loan     and   amending     the    Historic    Inns   Operating
    Agreement.
    Seventh, Georgia alleges that all defendants engaged in
    a civil conspiracy to unlawfully benefit themselves by taking
    actions that harmed Georgia's interest in the estate but increased
    the value of businesses in which defendants                      and the   favored
    beneficiaries held a greater interest.
    As     relief,    Georgia    seeks        monetary    damages   against
    Doucette, Thomas, and Taft, all in their personal capacities, plus
    attorneys' fees in connection with the RICO claim under 
    18 U.S.C. § 1964
    (c).
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    The district court dismissed all of Georgia's claims as
    barred by the probate exception to federal court jurisdiction.
    The court reasoned that determining the harm Georgia suffered from
    the defendants' wrongful acts would require an accounting of the
    estate, and that granting her relief on some of her claims would
    require replacing the executor.
    II.
    We first consider a question of abstention about which
    the parties filed supplemental briefs at our request.                   Under the
    doctrine established in Colorado River Water Conservation District
    v. United States, 
    424 U.S. 800
     (1976), a federal court may abstain
    in   certain   instances   where   there      is    a    parallel     state   court
    proceeding,     "based     on   'considerations            of   wise     judicial
    administration'    that    counsel     against          duplicative    lawsuits."
    Jiménez v. Rodríguez-Pagán, 
    597 F.3d 18
    , 27 (1st Cir. 2010)
    (quoting   Colorado   River,    
    424 U.S. at 817
    ).    As    mentioned,
    Donelson's estate remains in Newport probate court.                   According to
    the parties, Georgia and her mother filed a petition with the
    probate court to remove Doucette as executor based on his breach
    of fiduciary duty; that petition was denied by the probate court,
    and the denial was appealed to the Rhode Island Superior Court.
    The probate court also denied a petition filed by Georgia and her
    mother to adjudge Doucette in contempt for failing to render
    inventory and account, leading to another appeal to the superior
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    court.   The probate court also found unripe a petition Georgia
    filed to prohibit the disbursement of estate funds to pay Doucette
    and the favored beneficiaries' legal fees.            Thomas, a defendant in
    this case, has also filed petitions in the probate court seeking
    a distribution of estate assets to him.
    This    federal   lawsuit   clearly    covers    much    ground    in
    common with these ongoing state court proceedings.                     But some
    duplication alone is not enough to justify a stay of this federal
    action; "[t]he crevice in federal jurisdiction that Colorado River
    carved is a narrow one," and abstention must be approached with
    "caution"   and    granted    only   where    there   is   the    "clearest    of
    justifications."        
    Id.
       (internal      quotations    omitted).      As   a
    threshold matter, a stay or dismissal of a federal lawsuit under
    Colorado River "necessarily contemplates that the federal court
    will have nothing further to do in resolving any substantive part
    of the case."      Moses H. Cone Mem'l Hosp. v. Mercury Constr. Corp.,
    
    460 U.S. 1
    , 28 (1983).        For this reason, "it would be a serious
    abuse of discretion to grant [a] stay or dismissal at all" "[i]f
    there is any substantial doubt" "that the parallel state-court
    litigation will be an adequate vehicle for the complete and prompt
    resolution of the issues between the parties."              
    Id.
       In short, to
    create the possibility of abstention under Colorado River, the
    federal- and state-court cases must be "sufficiently parallel,"
    Villa Marina Yacht Sales, Inc. v. Hatteras Yachts, 
    947 F.2d 529
    ,
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    533 (1st Cir. 1992); that is, the state action must resolve all of
    the claims in the federal case.
    Here, there is substantial doubt that the state-court
    actions will resolve all of Georgia's federal claims. For example,
    even if Georgia were to lose in state probate court on all of her
    claims relating to Doucette's conduct as executor, that would not
    dispose of her claim that some or all of the defendants breached
    duties owed to her as managers of Historic Inns, since that
    corporate governance dispute is based on her status as a member of
    the LLC rather than as a beneficiary of the estate.                Likewise,
    even if Georgia prevails on all claims in the state courts, it is
    unlikely that any state court in so ruling will have occasion to
    consider whether a RICO enterprise existed, or whether the three
    defendants committed bank fraud as alleged in Georgia's federal
    RICO claim.
    Indeed, not even the defendants contend that the state-
    court claims will resolve all the federal-court claims.              Doucette
    argues, instead, that we should abstain because Georgia could bring
    her RICO claim in state court.           But if that were sufficient to
    invoke abstention, abstention could become the rule, rather than
    the   exception,   except   in     actions   impacting   exclusive    federal
    jurisdiction.      See   Jiménez, 
    597 F.3d at 29
     ("The 'piecemeal
    litigation'   to   be    avoided    is   something   more   than   just   the
    repetitive adjudication that takes place in all cases implicating
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    Colorado River doctrine . . . .        [O]therwise, courts could abstain
    in   any   diversity   action   that   overlapped    with    a   state-court
    action.").    Taft's claim that the state-court actions "are likely
    to moot, or at the very least inform, Georgia's federal claims,"
    does not convince us that a federal court would have "nothing
    further to do" after the state-court actions.               Thomas concedes
    that "the preclusive effect of the final probate action cannot at
    this time be predicted."
    In sum, we have substantial doubt that resolution of the
    state-court actions will provide a vehicle for the "complete"
    resolution of the issues between the parties.            We therefore find
    that the case for Colorado River abstention does not get to first
    base.4
    III.
    We turn now to application of the probate exception to
    federal    court   jurisdiction.5      We   review   a   district    court's
    dismissal for lack of subject matter jurisdiction de novo.            Murphy
    4 For this reason, we have no need to consider the additional
    factors drawn from Colorado River and its progeny, see Jiménez,
    
    597 F.3d at
    27–28, that are employed to identify those instances
    of parallel federal-state litigation in which abstention is
    justified.
    5 Georgia did not argue in the district court that the
    probate exception applies only to state law claims, so we consider
    that claim unpreserved in this civil action.           See, e.g.,
    Evangelista v. Sec'y of Health & Hum. Servs., 
    826 F.2d 136
    , 144
    (1st Cir. 1987).
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    v. United States, 
    45 F.3d 520
    , 522 (1st Cir. 1995).                   In doing so,
    we take all well-pleaded facts as true and draw all inferences in
    Georgia's favor.         
    Id.
    A.
    The      probate    exception     to    federal    jurisdiction      is    a
    judicially       created     doctrine.        Born   of   notions   regarding      the
    boundaries       of    jurisdiction      of    English     chancery    courts,         it
    precludes the assertion of federal jurisdiction in certain probate
    matters.
    In Markham v. Allen, 
    326 U.S. 490
     (1946), the Supreme
    Court stated that a federal court cannot "interfere with the
    probate proceedings or assume general jurisdiction of the probate
    or control the property in the custody of the state court."                        
    Id. at 494
    .    Sixty years later in Marshall v. Marshall, 
    547 U.S. 293
    (2006),    the     Supreme      Court   revisited     that     formulation   of    the
    exception, deeming it to be "not a model of clear statement."                      
    Id. at 311
    .     The Court reasoned that the "interference" language in
    Markham was "essentially a reiteration of the general principle
    that, when one court is exercising in rem jurisdiction over a res,
    a second court will not assume in rem jurisdiction over the same
    res."     
    Id.
          The Marshall Court emphasized that Markham in fact
    "described a probate exception of distinctly limited scope."                       
    Id.
    It further clarified that "the probate exception reserves to state
    probate courts [1] the probate or annulment of a will and [2] the
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    administration   of     a    decedent's     estate;      it   also   [3] precludes
    federal courts from endeavoring to dispose of property that is in
    the custody of a state probate court."                  
    Id.
     at 311–12.    But the
    exception "does not bar federal courts from adjudicating matters
    outside those confines and otherwise within federal jurisdiction."
    
    Id. at 312
    .
    The Court also observed that Markham's lack of clarity
    had led some lower courts "to block federal jurisdiction over a
    range of matters well beyond probate of a will or administration
    of a decedent's estate."        
    Id. at 311
    .       As examples of matters "well
    beyond" the probate exception, it cited three cases -- including
    one from this circuit, Mangieri v. Mangieri, 
    226 F.3d 1
    , 2–3 (1st
    Cir. 2000) -- in which federal courts found the probate exception
    barred jurisdiction over breach of fiduciary duty claims against
    executors or trustees.        
    547 U.S. at 311
    .
    Finally, in determining whether the narrowed exception
    applied   to   Marshall's      case   --    a    tortious     interference   with
    inheritance    claim    --    the   Court       found   the   probate    exception
    inapplicable.     
    Id.
     at 312–14.           Marshall sought an in personam
    judgment, and did not seek to reach a res in the custody of a state
    court.    
    Id. at 312
    .       Moreover, "no 'sound policy considerations'
    militate[d] in favor of extending the probate exception," since
    both state and federal trial courts often addressed conduct of
    this type and the probate court possessed no "special proficiency"
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    in handling these issues.        
    Id.
     (quoting Ankenbrandt v. Richards,
    
    504 U.S. 689
    , 703, 704 (1992)).
    B.
    1.
    In finding the probate exception applicable to this
    case, the district court reasoned that any attempt to calculate
    damages   in   this   action   would    entail        "precisely    the    kind   of
    valuation and accounting that is within the exclusive province of
    the probate court."      See Glassie v. Doucette, 
    559 F. Supp. 3d 52
    ,
    61 (D.R.I. 2021).      Reasoned the district court, "[a]n accounting
    runs squarely into the probate exception."               
    Id.
    How this conclusion fits within the Marshall formulation
    of the probate exception (which makes no mention of an accounting),
    the district court did not say.               Defendants presume that the
    district court had in mind Marshall's reference to "administration
    of a decedent's estate."       We agree.       See Glassie, 559 F. Supp. 3d
    at 59 (noting "[t]he essence of the claim" to be, in part, "alleged
    mismanagement of the administration of the estate.")                So the first
    question posed is whether the need to determine damages constitutes
    a form of estate administration because it entails valuing estate
    assets.
    Doucette claims that we need not consider this question
    because Georgia has failed to make argument in her brief that
    calculating    damages   would    not       require    the     federal    court   to
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    administer her father's estate.   But Georgia stated multiple times
    in her opening brief that her claims do not seek to administer an
    estate, and she argued consistently both below and in this court
    that the relief she seeks does not run afoul of any of the three
    prongs of the exception specified in Marshall. Moreover, Georgia's
    relatively greater focus on the third prong made sense, given the
    district court's discussion of the actual effect the relief she
    requested would have on the estate.    In short, we see no waiver;
    so we turn to the merits of the issue.
    2.
    While we disagree with the district court's conclusion
    that the probate exception applies to this case, we acknowledge
    the lack of helpful precedent on point and the difficulty of
    applying Marshall.   See Jiménez, 
    597 F.3d at 24
     ("[S]tating the
    probate exception has proven easier than applying it." (quoting
    Umsted v. Umsted, 
    446 F.3d 17
    , 20 n.2 (1st Cir. 2006))).         The
    probate exception has been called "one of the most mysterious and
    esoteric branches of the law of federal jurisdiction."   
    Id. at 23
    (quoting Dragan v. Miller, 
    679 F.2d 712
    , 713 (7th Cir. 1982)).   We
    simply see the issue differently than did the district court.    Our
    reasoning follows.
    a.
    First, we do not agree that any potential need to value
    estate assets in order to calculate damages necessarily requires
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    an accounting, much less estate administration.      It is true that
    calculating damages in this civil action could well involve the
    jury's consideration of how much damage Georgia suffered as a
    result of defendants' alleged misconduct that lowered the value of
    her eventual inheritance.     And that calculation of damages might
    include considering whether and to what extent the value of the
    estate residuum decreased.      But such a calculation is hardly a
    probate accounting.     Under Rhode Island probate law, an account is
    given to the probate court at the end of administration of the
    estate, or at other times if so ordered by the probate court.   R.I.
    Gen. Laws § 33-14-1.     The account must include information about
    the estate's assets, money it has received (whether from sales or
    rents), losses, charges, payments, and distributions.      Id. § 33-
    14-2.   Specifically:
    Accounts . . . shall charge . . . the amount
    of the inventory, or, instead the amount of
    the balance of the last account rendered, as
    the case may be, and all income, all gains
    from the sale of personal property, and all
    other property received by [the executor or
    administrator], although not inventoried, and
    all rents and proceeds of the sale of real
    estate   received   by    the   executor   or
    administrator; the accounts shall credit all
    charges, losses and payments, including
    legacies, distribution, and specific personal
    property delivered, and shall also show the
    investments of the balance of the account, if
    any, and changes of investments, along with
    such documentation verifying such investments
    as the court may request.
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    Id.   The account may also include charges for funeral expenses;
    money reasonably spent by the executor or administrator, including
    attorneys' fees paid to defend the appeal of the will; and a
    reasonable fee for the executor or administrator.           Id. §§ 33-14-6
    to -8.   The settlement of the account by the probate court is
    "final and conclusive on all parties concerned."            Id. § 33-14-11.
    "The accepting and allowing of . . . accounts" of executors or
    administrators is part of the general jurisdiction of Rhode Island
    probate courts.       Id. § 8-9-9.
    Calculating damages in a civil action falls short of the
    foregoing.     Although Georgia alleges that information regarding
    the estate's assets is "not currently available to" her, the
    district court crossed a bridge too far when it concluded that
    Georgia could not "attach a value to her loss without a complete
    accounting."     Glassie, 559 F. Supp. 3d at 61.        The most that can
    be said is that calculating damages in this civil action may
    intertwine     with    some   determinations    made   in   performing   an
    accounting.      R.I.    Gen.   Laws    § 33-14-2   (accounting   includes
    ascertaining losses to the estate).           But as we said in Jiménez,
    the probate exception does not apply merely because a judgment in
    the federal-court action "may be intertwined with and binding
    on . . . state proceedings."         
    597 F.3d at 24
     (quoting Lefkowitz v.
    Bank of N.Y., 
    528 F.3d 102
    , 106 (2d Cir. 2007)).             Moreover, any
    damages calculation will not preclude the probate court from
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    approving    a   final       accounting,    nor     will   it    determine   the
    distribution Georgia will receive from the estate itself.6
    More generally, a rule that any need to value estate
    assets triggers the probate exception would lead to an expansive
    understanding    of    the    exception     that    runs   against   Marshall's
    cautionary explanation.          
    547 U.S. at
    311–12.           A simple example
    highlights this point.           Imagine that the executor of an estate
    misrepresented to a bank the value of estate property put forward
    as collateral for a loan.          Clearly an action by the bank against
    the   executor   for     fraud    would    likely    involve    valuing   estate
    property.   But we doubt that many would deem the probate exception
    to swallow up such an action by the bank.            And in this case itself,
    Georgia rests her RICO claim partially on allegations that the
    defendants procured bank loans by fraud.
    Defendants rely on several out-of-circuit and district
    court cases finding that any claim requiring the valuation of
    assets requires a premature accounting and thus is barred by the
    probate exception. E.g., Stuart v. Hatcher, 
    757 F. App'x 807
     (11th
    Cir. 2018); Junco Mulet v. Junco De La Fuente, 
    228 F. Supp. 2d 12
    (D.P.R. 2002).    These cases draw on Turton v. Turton, 
    644 F.2d 344
    6 Because an accounting would not be required in this federal
    lawsuit, we are likewise not concerned that the federal court would
    risk "improperly assum[ing] general probate jurisdiction."
    Lebrón-Yero v. Lebrón-Rodríguez, No. 20-1443, 
    2022 WL 611589
    , at
    *2 (1st Cir. Mar. 2, 2022).
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    (5th Cir. 1981), a pre-Marshall case where the Fifth Circuit held
    that the federal courts could not adjudicate the dollar value of
    a plaintiff's share of the estate.       
    Id.
     at 347–48.   The district
    court there had valued assets still within the estate and ordered
    that the plaintiff be paid a specific dollar value of those assets,
    and the Fifth Circuit held that the probate exception prohibited
    it from taking those actions.    
    Id.
    Turton has limited relevance to the problem at hand,
    even apart from the fact that it predates Marshall.       The plaintiff
    in Turton sought to obtain estate assets, rather than in personam
    damages.   The district court in Turton sought to act directly upon
    the estate itself, because it ordered property to be distributed
    to the plaintiff from the estate.        644 F.2d at 346–47.     Thus,
    Turton was a case in which the court attempted to dispose of
    property in the custody of a probate court.     Marshall, 
    547 U.S. at
    311–12.    Here, Georgia seeks only in personam damages to be paid
    by the defendants.   She does not seek to act upon the estate.    More
    generally, determining whether Georgia suffered damages due to any
    defendant's acts is not a matter in which a probate court has
    unique expertise.
    In sum, we are not persuaded that calculating the damages
    on plaintiff's claim would constitute administration of the estate
    as Marshall uses that term.   Nor do we see how Georgia's complaint
    would otherwise require the federal court to administer Donelson's
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    estate. Doucette argues that the federal court will need to review
    various documents and plans before the probate court, but we do
    not   see    how    simply    reviewing        documents       regarding      the    estate
    constitutes        administration        of    the    estate.      Taft    argues        that
    Georgia's suit seeks to effectively undo specific actions taken by
    Doucette in administering the estate, but Georgia asks for no
    relief      that    would    reverse      or       otherwise    affect     any      of   the
    transactions she discusses in her complaint.                       We conclude that
    Georgia's     lawsuit       does   not    seek       administration      of   Donelson's
    estate, and cannot be barred by the probate exception on that
    basis.
    b.
    Defendants alternatively rest on the fact that among the
    breaches of duty alleged by Georgia are breaches by Doucette as
    executor.      Some federal courts have concluded that the probate
    exception bars claims, including breach of fiduciary duty claims,
    based on the executor's actions regarding the estate.                         See, e.g.,
    Stuart, 757 F. App'x at 810; Carroll v. Hill, 
    559 F. Supp. 3d 645
    ,
    654–55 (N.D. Ohio 2021).           But, as explained above, the conclusion
    that claims of fiduciary breach by the executor necessarily trigger
    the probate exception was rejected in Marshall itself.                           
    547 U.S. at 311
    .
    In Marshall's wake, several of our sister circuits have
    found that the probate exception does not bar claims for breach of
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    fiduciary duty against an executor simply because the underlying
    conduct involves estate assets.     In Lefkowitz, for example, the
    Second Circuit found that the probate exception did not bar claims
    for breach of fiduciary duty, aiding and abetting breach of
    fiduciary     duty,   fraudulent    concealment,   and   fraudulent
    misrepresentation which sought in personam damages, since those
    claims did not require the court to reach or control a res.     
    528 F.3d at
    107–08.   Similarly, in Jones v. Brennan, 
    465 F.3d 304
     (7th
    Cir. 2006), the Sixth Circuit found that a breach of fiduciary
    duty claim against guardians and guardians ad litem who were
    managing estate assets would likely not be barred by the probate
    exception after Marshall.    
    Id.
     at 307–08.   The Sixth Circuit has
    also twice found the probate exception did not bar breach of
    fiduciary duty claims where the plaintiff sought in personam
    damages, did not seek to reach a res in the custody of a state
    court, and did not simply seek the equivalent value of probate
    distributions.    Osborn v. Griffin, 
    865 F.3d 417
    , 435–37 (6th Cir.
    2017); Wisecarver v. Moore, 
    489 F.3d 747
    , 750–51 (6th Cir. 2007).
    The Ninth Circuit, too, has found that breach of fiduciary duty
    claims brought under California probate law were not barred by the
    probate exception after Marshall.    Chrictlow v. Chrictlow, 
    617 F. App'x 664
    , 665 (9th Cir. 2015).
    Where fiduciary duty claims seek to reach or distribute
    property within the custody of a state probate court, however, the
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    probate exception may well apply.         Three Keys Ltd. v. SR Utility
    Holding Co., 
    540 F.3d 220
    , 229–30 (3d Cir. 2008).         Similarly, the
    exception may apply when a plaintiff seeks the restoration of money
    previously distributed to a testamentary trust.        Mercer v. Bank of
    N.Y. Mellon, N.A., 
    609 F. App'x 677
    , 679–80 (2d Cir. 2015).
    Georgia, though, makes no such requests in her federal suit.             She
    does not ask that the court exercise in rem jurisdiction over
    estate property.      Nor, finally, does she challenge the will or
    seek to order the probate judge to do or not do anything.                See
    Marshall, 
    547 U.S. at
    311–12.     So we see no basis for invoking the
    probate   exception   merely   because    Georgia   alleges   breaches    of
    fiduciary duty by Doucette.
    Doucette also argues that Georgia's RICO claim should be
    barred because some of the conduct she alleges involved Doucette's
    actions with respect to the estate.       But Georgia's RICO claim does
    not ask the probate court to do anything, or ask the federal court
    to act on estate property.       So as with the breach of fiduciary
    duty claim, we see no basis to apply the probate exception to the
    RICO claim.
    c.
    Defendants more generally complain that Georgia's foray
    into federal court will interfere with the probate proceedings,
    because many legal and factual issues are common to the two
    proceedings.   But this type of "interference" is present whenever
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    overlapping lawsuits are filed.             Nor after Marshall can it support
    abdication of federal jurisdiction.              As explained above, Marshall
    made clear that the "interference" language in Markham is to be
    necessarily read as "essentially a reiteration of the general
    principle    that . . .       a    second   court      will   not   assume   in    rem
    jurisdiction over the same res."            
    547 U.S. at
    311–12; see Mojtabai
    v. Mojtabai, 
    4 F.4th 77
    , 82 n.2 (1st Cir. 2021) (finding that
    probate exception did not apply where "relief sought would not
    require    the   court   to       probate   or   annul   a    will,   administer    a
    decedent's estate, or 'dispose of property that is in the custody
    of a state probate court'" (quoting Marshall, 
    547 U.S. at 312
    ));
    Jiménez, 597 F.3 at 24 (noting that Marshall limited Markham's
    language    regarding    interference);          see   also    Goncalves     ex   rel.
    Goncalves v. Rady Children's Hosp. San Diego, 
    865 F.3d 1237
    , 1252
    (9th Cir. 2017) (recognizing that Marshall refined the probate
    exception's scope, and accepting "reformulation" of the test that
    did not include interference language); Lefkowitz, 
    528 F.3d at 106
    (stating that previous test including interference language was
    "overly-broad and has now been superseded by Marshall's limitation
    of the exception").
    Of course, Georgia's federal claims may raise issues in
    common with those before the probate court.                    Most likely to be
    among these common issues are those requiring a determination that
    Doucette did or did not breach fiduciary duties owed to Georgia as
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    a beneficiary.    It will be for the probate court to decide what
    effect, if any, a determination of this issue by the federal court
    has on the probate proceedings.7     The federal court may also need
    to consider the potentially preclusive effect of any decisions of
    the probate court on the federal lawsuit, including the denial of
    the petition to remove Doucette as executor.          As the record now
    stands, we see in this overlap only a need for coordination between
    related lawsuits, such as arises in all sorts of contexts that
    have nothing to do with probate proceedings.          So we place little
    weight on such an overlap in deciding whether the narrow probate
    exception should apply to bar suit altogether.
    Nor    are   federal   courts     without   tools   to     manage
    overlapping litigation with state probate proceedings.             They may
    certify questions of state law to state high courts.           They may
    coordinate with state courts to administer closely related cases
    so as to minimize duplicative discovery or proceedings.                 See
    James G. Apple et al., Manual for Cooperation Between State and
    Federal Courts (1997).    They will pay close attention to the state
    court's construction of state law.        Kunelius v. Town of Stow, 588
    7  This is similar to what happens in Rhode Island state court
    when a superior court of general jurisdiction makes a ruling that
    may overlap with a probate proceeding.     See Tyre v. Swain, 
    946 A.2d 1189
    , 1198 (R.I. 2008) ("Once the Superior Court has made a
    declaration under the UDJA . . . it is then within the province of
    the probate court to determine what effect, if any, that
    declaration has on the distribution of the decedent's assets under
    a will or other instrument.").
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    F.3d 1, 9 (1st Cir. 2009).       And plaintiffs who run to federal court
    may, of course, be precluded from relitigating claims or issues
    decided by a probate court.         E.g., Giragosian v. Ryan, 
    547 F.3d 59
    , 63 (1st Cir. 2008).
    d.
    The ongoing nature of the probate proceedings also does
    not by itself support an assertion of the probate exception.
    Marshall emphasized that the probate exception is focused largely
    on the effect of the federal court's actions on the res of the
    estate itself.      Naturally there is a greater risk that a claim
    will reach property in the custody of a state court when the estate
    is still open in that state court.          But the pendency of state court
    proceedings     alone   cannot   mean      that   a   federal    court   has   no
    jurisdiction.
    For the same reason, it is not dispositive that the
    conduct here occurred after Donelson's death.              Although Doucette
    points out that the allegedly tortious conduct in Marshall occurred
    before    the   decedent   passed    away,    none    of   the   reasoning     or
    conclusions in Marshall pivots on this distinction.               See 
    547 U.S. at 312
    .
    e.
    Finally, Historic Inns LLC's agreement to indemnify its
    managers for breaches of fiduciary duty also does not render the
    probate exception applicable.        It is possible that a federal court
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    judgment against the defendants for breaches of duties owed as
    managing members of Historic Inns would trigger this requirement,
    thus reducing the value of Historic Inns including the 61% share
    owned by the estate.   But the same can be said of any claim against
    any entity that happens to be owned at least in part by an estate.
    Certainly if Doucette ran into Georgia's car, her claim against
    him need not be brought in state probate court merely because he
    was at the time of his actions acting in a capacity that might
    warrant indemnification by the estate.    Here too, we see no reason
    why Georgia cannot pursue a claim in federal court alleging
    breaches of defendants' duties in managing Historic Inns, with the
    probate court to determine the effect (if any) of a federal court
    ruling on such a claim.
    IV.
    One could argue as a policy matter that Georgia's claims
    would be best left to the state courts.      However, the lines of
    federal jurisdiction are not so drawn.8   The probate exception, as
    the Supreme Court admonished in Marshall, is a narrow one, and
    federal courts must take care not to enlarge its boundaries by
    8  Of course, nothing in this opinion suggests that Congress
    could not redraw those lines should it wish to do so.
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    declining to take jurisdiction over claims such as those brought
    in this action.
    For the foregoing reasons, we reverse the judgment of
    the district court and remand for further proceedings.9
    9  In light of our ruling, we have no need to decide whether
    the probate exception can be applied to federal causes of action
    in federal court.    Compare Jones, 
    465 F.3d at
    306–07 (finding
    exception applies to federal question cases), with In re Goerg,
    
    844 F.2d 1562
    , 1565 (11th Cir. 1988) (stating probate exception
    "has no bearing on federal question jurisdiction").
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