Billy Schumann v. Collier Anesthesia, P.A. , 803 F.3d 1199 ( 2015 )


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  •              Case: 14-13169     Date Filed: 09/11/2015   Page: 1 of 32
    [PUBLISH]
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
    ________________________
    No. 14-13169
    ________________________
    D.C. Docket No. 2:12-cv-00347-JES-CM
    BILLY SCHUMANN,
    DUSTIN ABRAHAM,
    on behalf of themselves and
    others similarly situated,
    Plaintiffs-Appellants,
    versus
    COLLIER ANESTHESIA, P.A.,
    a Florida corporation,
    WOLFORD COLLEGE, LLC,
    a Florida limited liability company,
    THOMAS L. COOK,
    an individual,
    LYNDA M. WATERHOUSE,
    an individual,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    ________________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Middle District of Florida
    ________________________
    (September 11, 2015)
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    Before MARTIN and ROSENBAUM, Circuit Judges, and PROCTOR, * District
    Judge.
    ROSENBAUM, Circuit Judge:
    Upon receiving their master’s degrees, certifications, and licenses, Plaintiff-
    Appellant student registered nurse anesthetists are legally able to put people to
    sleep.       We have heard, though never ourselves experienced, that some legal
    opinions can do the same thing. We are hopeful that this one will not. 1
    Plaintiffs in this case include twenty-five former student registered nurse
    anesthetists (“SRNAs” or “Students”)2 who attended a master’s degree program at
    Wolford College, LLC, with the goal of becoming certified registered nurse
    anesthetists (“CRNAs”). 3               During the course of their study, the Students
    participated in a clinical curriculum, which, under Florida law, was a prerequisite
    to obtaining their master’s degrees.
    Through this legal action, the Students sought to recover unpaid wages and
    overtime under the Fair Labor Standards Act, 29 U.S.C. § 201, et seq. (“FLSA”),
    for their clinical hours. After considering the six factors that the Department of
    Labor identified in guidance that, in turn, does no more than reduce the specific
    *
    The Honorable R. David Proctor, United States District Judge for the Northern District
    of Alabama, sitting by designation.
    1
    But, then again, the writer is always the last to know.
    2
    SRNAs are registered nurses who have enrolled in an accredited college in pursuit of
    their Master of Science degrees in the specialty of nurse anesthesia.
    3
    CRNAs are advanced-practice nurses who are licensed to administer anesthesia.
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    facts of Walling v. Portland Terminal Co., 
    330 U.S. 148
    , 
    67 S. Ct. 639
    (1947), to a
    test, the district court determined that the SRNAs were not “employees” of
    Defendants and entered summary judgment for Defendants.
    But, with all due respect to the Department of Labor, it has no more
    expertise in construing a Supreme Court case than does the Judiciary. Portland
    Terminal is nearly seven decades old and, in our view, addresses a very different
    factual situation involving a seven-or-eight-day, railroad-yard-brakeman training
    program offered by a specific company for the purpose of creating a labor pool for
    its own future use. This case, however, concerns a universal clinical-placement
    requirement necessary to obtain a generally applicable advanced academic degree
    and professional certification and licensure in the field.
    So, while we follow Portland Terminal’s “primary beneficiary” test here, we
    do not believe that measuring the facts in this case by a strict comparison to those
    in Portland Terminal allows us to identify the primary beneficiary of a modern-day
    internship for academic credit and professional certification. As a result, we now
    adopt an application of Portland Terminal’s “primary beneficiary” test specifically
    tailored to account for the unique qualities of the type of internship at issue in this
    case. To allow the district court to apply this test in the first instance and, if the
    district court desires, to give the parties an opportunity to further develop the
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    record to address the components of the test, we remand this case for further
    proceedings consistent with this opinion.
    I.
    A.
    Florida tightly regulates the practice of nurse anesthesia to protect patients,
    since anesthesia delivery can carry a high risk. Performing the duties of a CRNA
    in Florida without a proper license or knowingly employing an unlicensed person
    to engage in CRNA duties constitutes a felony. See Fla. Stat. § 464.016. To obtain
    a CRNA license under Florida law, among other requirements, a person must
    graduate from an accredited program and be certified by the National Commission
    on Certification of Anesthesiologist Assistants.      See Fla. Stat. §§ 458.3475,
    459.023.
    B.
    Defendant Wolford College is a for-profit college that is wholly owned by
    Defendant Lynda Waterhouse (Wolford College’s chief financial officer and
    secretary-treasurer) and several anesthesiologists who also have an ownership
    interest in Defendant Collier Anesthesia, P.A., a Florida corporation that provides
    anesthesia services. In addition to her duties at Wolford College, Waterhouse
    serves as the executive director of Collier Anesthesia. Defendant Dr. Thomas L.
    Cook is the president and a part-owner of Collier.
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    Wolford College offers one of 113 accredited CRNA programs in the
    country, providing a 28-month curriculum that culminates in a Master of Science
    degree in Nurse Anesthesia. While classroom learning dominates the first three
    semesters of the master’s program, the last four semesters consist mainly of
    clinical experience—a requirement that Florida law, the Council on Accreditation
    for Nurse Anesthesia Educational Programs, 4 and the National Board of
    Certification and Recertification of Nurse Anesthetists all mandate.
    Under the Council on Accreditation’s standards, accredited schools must
    require students to participate in a minimum of 550 clinical cases in a variety of
    surgical procedures. This requirement is designed to ensure that when a student
    graduates and becomes licensed, she will be able to safely and competently
    monitor the status of her patients without another licensed professional in the
    room. Among other tasks that must be mastered during the clinical phase of
    training, SRNAs must learn to complete preoperative forms for patients; set up
    anesthesia equipment; draw proper medications; monitor patients through the
    induction, maintenance, and emergence phases of anesthesia; stock and re-stock
    anesthesia carts; prepare rooms for use; clean equipment; and serve while “on
    call.”
    4
    The Council on Accreditation oversees the accreditation of nurse anesthesia schools.
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    In Wolford College’s clinical phase of education, each course has an
    instructor and a syllabus, and the school requires daily evaluations that must be
    completed by both the student and the CRNA or anesthesiologist who supervises
    the student. Every day, the supervising CRNA or anesthesiologist must grade the
    student in several areas, depending on the particular course. For example, in some
    of the courses, the supervisor must evaluate the SRNA every day in nine different
    categories, including anesthesia cart, anesthesia machine, airway set up, patient
    assessment, record keeping, induction, maintenance, emergence, and interpersonal
    behavior. In addition, on the same form, the supervising CRNA or physician
    prepares brief comments regarding the day’s events. The clinical courses also
    require end-of-semester self-evaluations prepared by the student and summative
    semester evaluations completed by the clinical instructor or coordinator.
    In order to sit for the Board examination, students must graduate from an
    accredited nurse anesthesia program. For each class graduating in the years 2009
    through 2013, between 96% and 100% of all Wolford graduates passed their Board
    certifications.
    C.
    In this case, the Students obtained some, if not all, of their clinical education
    at facilities where Collier Anesthesia practices anesthesiology. But the Students
    viewed their clinical efforts as more than just education; they filed suit alleging
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    that they served as “employees” of Defendants for purposes of the FLSA and that
    Defendants unlawfully failed to compensate them with wages and overtime pay.
    During the proceedings, Defendants moved for summary judgment, and the
    Students filed a competing motion for partial summary judgment.
    In support of their motion for summary judgment, Defendants submitted
    evidence that all Students were notified at the start of their education that they
    were not guaranteed employment with Collier upon graduation, and, in fact, none
    of the Students involved in this case ever worked for Collier after they obtained
    their master’s degrees.     The Students also agreed at the beginning of their
    educations (by signing Wolford’s Handbook) that although they would be
    undertaking a clinical program, they would not become employed as nurse
    anesthetists through their participation.
    In addition, Defendants’ evidence showed that when the Students were at a
    clinical location, they were identified as SRNAs, and they were required to wear
    scrubs with the Wolford College logo. And, although while participating in the
    clinical program, in some instances, the Students, without direct supervision from
    an anesthesiologist or a CRNA, readied rooms, stocked carts, prepared
    preoperative forms, and performed other functions, a licensed anesthesiologist or
    CRNA was required to review the SRNAs’ work as part of the SRNAs’ daily
    evaluations.
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    For their part, the Students claimed that Collier benefited financially by
    using their services as SRNAs in place of licensed CRNAs. Although Wolford’s
    curriculum contemplated that SRNAs would work in the clinical program for 40
    hours per week, the Students submitted evidence that Collier routinely scheduled
    SRNAs in excess of 40 hours per week. They further presented testimony that they
    were scheduled to perform work at Collier-staffed facilities 365 days per year,
    including weekends, holidays, and the days in between semesters. And, although
    Wolford and Collier represented to the Students that their shifts would be eight
    hours long, the Students stated that they were required to arrive at facilities in
    advance of their scheduled shifts. Consequently, the Students indicated, an eight-
    hour shift actually required SRNAs to work for a minimum of 8.75 to 10 hours per
    day.
    In addition to their own statements, the Students relied upon the testimony of
    Barbara Rose, a former Collier employee who the Students contend was
    responsible for CRNA and SRNA scheduling. From April 2010 through April
    2012, Rose prepared the SRNA monthly and daily schedules for assignments at
    Collier’s clinical sites.
    Collier usually scheduled SRNAs for five shifts per week. Rose indicated
    that in preparing the daily schedule, she strived to use SRNAs to reduce the
    number of Collier CRNAs needed for the schedule. According to Rose, Collier
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    removed CRNAs from the daily schedule after the fact in favor of SRNAs and, in
    Rose’s opinion, if the SRNAs had not been scheduled, Collier would have needed
    CRNAs to cover shifts. The Students pointed to Rose’s testimony to support their
    theory that SRNAs at Collier displaced CRNAs on the schedule and that Collier
    affirmatively tried to use as few licensed nurses as possible.      Based on this
    evidence, the Students argued that the displacement of CRNAs allowed Collier to
    save money in running its practice.
    Rose, however, admitted that she lacked important first-hand knowledge
    about Collier’s scheduling practices.   In particular, Rose did not know about
    Collier’s payrolls, the number of patient cases on which Collier worked, the
    number of CRNAs on Collier’s payroll, the number of anesthesiologists on its
    payroll, other personal knowledge necessary to support the Students’ claims of
    displacement of regular workers, or the economic benefit to Collier from the
    Students’ services.
    To counteract Rose’s testimony, Defendants presented the testimony of Keri
    Ortega, who served as the Assistant Program Director and Associate Director of
    Graduate Education at Wolford College during the period in question. Ortega was
    one of two Wolford employees who were primarily responsible for scheduling the
    students in the clinical program. She attested that, typically, Rose sent her a
    proposed monthly schedule.      Ortega, Wolford Program Director Dr. Lauren
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    Corder, or Wolford Dean Dr. John Nolan then reviewed the schedule. According
    to Ortega, the schedule is a “living document”—it constantly changes for a number
    of reasons, including, among others, cases are removed from and added to the
    schedule, patients refuse to allow student participation, and cases are changed from
    one procedure to another due to illness, equipment problems, and other last-minute
    circumstances. So Ortega viewed the schedules that Rose prepared as merely
    initial schedules which were subject to review and significant change.
    Defense expert Dr. Daniel Janyja, an anesthesiologist at Collier, also
    provided evidence that contradicted Rose’s testimony. He echoed Ortega, stating
    that the scheduling of CRNAs and SRNAs in operating rooms is a highly complex
    and fluid process that changes up to the last minute on a daily basis. According to
    Dr. Janyja, Collier was capable of meeting its patient safety and legal obligations
    with existing licensed personnel, without using the Students and without incurring
    additional personnel costs.    Dr. Janyja opined that Wolford students did not
    displace CRNAs. To the contrary, Dr. Janyja viewed the Students as more of a
    burden than a benefit to Collier because, among other reasons, the learning process
    impedes the actual delivery of anesthesia.
    Defendants also presented evidence supporting their contention that it is
    sometimes difficult to place students in a clinical environment. Certain surgeons
    and hospital locations refuse to allow students in the operating room. When a
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    surgeon indicates a preference not to use students, Collier honors that preference,
    and Wolford does not place any students in those situations.                   Patients also
    sometimes decline student participation in their case.
    And, from the perspective of a CRNA, allowing a student to participate in
    the administration of anesthesia under that individual’s license creates an added
    stress that would not otherwise be present. Moreover, student participation can
    slow down the administration of anesthesia because the CRNA may need to take
    time to respond to questions posed by a student. Or a student may attempt a
    procedure, fail, and require the CRNA (or anesthesiologist) to complete the
    procedure.       And, as previously described, Wolford also requires the
    anesthesiologist or CRNA supervising students to complete paperwork pertaining
    to each student’s presence, including daily evaluations. This paperwork detracts
    time from the CRNA or anesthesiologist’s day.
    The Students responded to this evidence by pointing out that, under what is
    known as the “Revised Teaching Rule,”5 Collier could receive reimbursement for
    student activities. According to the Students, Collier was able to use one CRNA to
    obtain 100% of the CRNA fee for two cases at the same time with one student
    5
    On January 1, 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services put into effect 42
    C.F.R. § 414.61(a)(2)—the “CRNA Teaching Rule.” Under this new rule, Collier was permitted
    to bill Medicare (using a “QZ” billing code) for one CRNA who supervises two students in
    concurrent cases (one student in each of two operating rooms) at a reimbursement rate of 100%
    to each of the two rooms.
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    assigned to each case.     And, following the rule change, Wolford and Collier
    decided to institute a two-to-one SRNA-to-CRNA supervision ratio. The Students
    argued that supervising SRNAs at a ratio of two to one made teaching “more
    advantageous” because Collier was reimbursed for two students’ concurrent
    participation where only one CRNA provided supervision.
    Collier acknowledged that it used the CRNA Teaching Rule and billed
    Medicare for some of its patients’ procedures using the Revised Teaching Rule.
    According to Collier, however, during this time, the number of CRNAs on its
    payroll and the amount of Collier’s payroll costs remained “substantially
    unchanged” despite the fluctuations in the number of Wolford students that it used
    in the clinical program from semester to semester. In addition, it asserted that at all
    times that billing occurred under this new rule, Collier anesthesiologists continued
    to supervise CRNAs and SRNAs without charge to Medicare. Collier’s Executive
    Director, Waterhouse, also refuted the Students’ claim that Collier saved money by
    using the Students in place of the CRNAs. According to Waterhouse, Collier did
    not save on labor costs, but rather, it lost money as a result of using the SRNAs
    because of the time spent training the Students. Besides these costs, Defendants
    presented evidence to show that Collier paid a “clinical fee” of $1,500 per student
    to Wolford to underwrite Wolford’s costs and to assist Wolford in remaining
    eligible for federal student loan funding.
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    After considering the facts presented by each party, the district court granted
    summary judgment in favor of Defendants, finding that the Students were not
    employees under the FLSA, so they were not entitled to a minimum wage or
    overtime pay.
    On appeal, the Students contend that, in rendering its decision, the district
    court improperly declined to follow the six-factor test promulgated by the
    Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division. The Students also assert that
    genuine issues of material fact exist in the case, which preclude the entry of
    summary judgment in favor of Defendants.
    II.
    Because a determination of an individual’s employment status under the
    FLSA is a question of law, we review de novo the district court’s finding that no
    employment relationship existed between the Students and Defendants. Scantland
    v. Jeffry Knight, Inc., 
    721 F.3d 1308
    , 1310 (11th Cir. 2013).
    We also review de novo an order granting summary judgment and apply the
    same legal standards that control the district court. 
    Id. at 1310.
    Under Rule 56(a),
    Fed. R. Civ. P., summary judgment is proper where “the movant shows that there
    is no genuine dispute as to any material fact and the movant is entitled to judgment
    as a matter of law.” We view all evidence and draw all justifiable inferences in the
    nonmoving party's favor. 
    Scantland, 721 F.3d at 1310
    .
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    III.
    A.
    Congress enacted the FLSA “to aid the unprotected, unorganized and lowest
    paid of the nation’s working population; that is, those employees who lacked
    sufficient bargaining power to secure for themselves a minimum subsistence
    wage.” Brooklyn Sav. Bank v. O’Neill, 
    324 U.S. 697
    , 707 n.18, 
    65 S. Ct. 895
    , 902
    n. 18 (1945). In addition, Congress sought “to lessen, so far as seemed then
    practicable, the distribution in commerce of goods produced under subnormal labor
    conditions.” Rutherford Food Corp. v. McComb, 
    331 U.S. 722
    , 727, 
    67 S. Ct. 1473
    , 1475 (1947).
    The protections the FLSA affords, however, extend to “employees” only.
    As a result, only individuals falling within the Act’s definition of “employee” are
    entitled to minimum wages and overtime.
    The tricky part arises in determining who falls within the FLSA’s definition.
    As other courts have observed, 6 the FLSA’s definitions as they relate to who
    qualifies as an “employee” are not precise. The statute defines an “employee” as
    6
    See, e.g., Glatt v. Fox Searchlight Pictures, Inc., 
    791 F.3d 376
    , 381 (2d Cir. 2015)
    (“The FLSA unhelpfully defines ‘employee’ . . . .”); Marshall v. Regis Educ. Corp., 
    666 F.2d 1324
    , 1326 (10th Cir. 1981) (describing FLSA’s definitions of “employee” and “employ” as
    “circular and all inclusive”) (quoting Marshall v. Regis Educ. Corp., 
    1980 WL 2201
    , at *2 (D.
    Colo. May 29, 1980)); Solis v. Laurelbrook Sanitarium and Sch., Inc., 
    642 F.3d 518
    , 522 (6th
    Cir. 2011) (describing the FLSA’s definitions of “employee,” “employer,” and “employ” as
    “exceedingly broad and generally unhelpful”); Henthorn v. Dep’t of Navy, 
    29 F.3d 682
    , 684
    (D.C. Cir. 1994) (describing the FLSA’s definitions of “employee,” “employer,” “employ,” and
    other terms as “so unhelpful”).
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    “any individual employed by an employer,” and an “employer,” in turn, includes
    “any person acting directly or indirectly in the interest of an employer in relation to
    an employee.” 29 U.S.C. §§ 203(d) and (e)(1). The Act also provides that the
    term “employ” means “to suffer or permit to work.” 
    Id. at §
    203(g). Congress
    intended for these broad definitions to be “‘comprehensive enough’ to include
    ‘working relationships, which prior to this Act, were not deemed to fall within an
    employer-employee category.’” 
    Scantland, 721 F.3d at 1311
    (citing Rutherford
    
    Food, 331 U.S. at 729
    , 67 S. Ct. at 1476 (quoting Portland 
    Terminal, 330 U.S. at 150-51
    , 67 S. Ct. at 640)).
    Nevertheless, the terms “employee” and “employer” “cannot be interpreted
    so as to make a person whose work serves only his own interest an employee of
    another person who gives him aid and instruction.” Portland 
    Terminal, 330 U.S. at 152
    , 67 S. Ct. at 641. As the Supreme Court has cautioned, the FLSA was “not
    intended to stamp all persons as employees who, without any express or implied
    compensation agreement, might work for their own advantage on the promises of
    another. Otherwise, all students would be employees of the school or college they
    attended, and as such entitled to receive minimum wages.” 
    Id. B. In
    Portland Terminal, the seminal case involving whether trainees are
    “employees” for purposes of the FLSA, the defendant railroad company offered a
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    practical-training course for prospective yard brakemen. 
    Id. at 149,
    67 S. Ct. at
    640. While participants were not guaranteed a job upon completion of the course,
    they were required to successfully finish the course to be eligible to serve as
    brakemen for the railroad. 
    Id. at 149-50,
    67 S. Ct. at 640. On average, the course
    lasted seven or eight days. 
    Id. at 149,
    67 S. Ct. at 640. During training, a yard
    crew instructed and supervised the trainees, gradually allowing them to perform
    actual work under close scrutiny. 
    Id. The trainees’
    work did not displace any
    regular employees, who continued to do most of the work themselves. 
    Id. at 150,
    67 S. Ct. at 640. Nor did the trainees’ work expedite company business. 
    Id. In fact,
    at times, it impeded it. 
    Id. In holding
    that the trainees were not “employees”
    for purposes of the FLSA, the Supreme Court reasoned,
    Had these trainees taken courses in railroading in a public
    or private vocational school, wholly disassociated from
    the railroad, it could not reasonably be suggested that
    they were employees of the school within the meaning of
    the Act. Nor could they, in that situation, have been
    considered as employees of the railroad merely because
    the school’s graduates would constitute a labor pool from
    which the railroad could later draw its employees.
    
    Id. at 152-53,
    67 S. Ct. at 641. Ultimately, the Supreme Court explained, “The
    Fair Labor Standards Act was not intended to penalize railroads for providing, free
    of charge, the same kind of instruction at a place and in a manner which would
    most greatly benefit the trainees.” 
    Id. at 153,
    67 S. Ct. at 641 (emphasis added).
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    C.
    The Department of Labor (“DOL”) refers without attribution to Portland
    Terminal in its Field Operations Handbook’s guidance on identifying whether a
    trainee or a student is an “employee” under the FLSA. Specifically, the Handbook
    states, “The Supreme Court has held that the words ‘to suffer or permit to work, as
    used in the FLSA to define ‘employ’, do not make all persons employees who,
    without any express or implied compensation agreement, may work for their own
    advantages on the premises of another,”         See Wage & Hour Div., U.S. Dep’t of
    Labor,     Field    Operations      Handbook        ch.10b11     (Oct.      20,   1993),
    http://www.dol.gov/whd/FOH/FOH_Ch10.pdf (last visited Aug. 28, 2015). This
    statement paraphrases Portland Terminal. See Portland 
    Terminal, 330 U.S. at 152
    ,
    67 S. Ct. at 641 (“The definition ‘suffer or permit to work’ was obviously not
    intended to stamp all persons as employees who, without any express or implied
    compensation agreement, might work for their own advantage on the premises of
    another.”).
    After referring to the content of Portland Terminal, the Handbook then
    opines that “[i]f all of the following criteria are met, the trainees or students are not
    employees within the meaning of the FLSA:”
    1.    The training, even though it includes actual
    operation of the facilities of the employer, is
    similar to that which would be given in a
    vocational school.
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    2.     The training is for the benefit of the trainees or
    students.
    3.     The trainees or students do not displace regular
    employees, but work under their close observation.
    4.     The employer that provides the training derives no
    immediate advantage from the activities of the
    trainees or students, and on occasion his/her
    operations may actually be impeded.
    5.     The trainees or students are not necessarily entitled
    to a job at the conclusion of the training period.
    6.     The employer and the trainees or students
    understand that the trainees or students are not
    entitled to wages for the time spent in training.
    
    Id. (emphasis in
    original).     The Students assert that we should defer to this
    guidance, but we respectfully disagree.
    Just as it is clear that the Handbook refers to Portland Terminal in its
    introduction to the six factors it sets forth, it is equally plain from reviewing the six
    factors that the Handbook derived them by simply reducing the facts of Portland
    Terminal to a test. This test is not a regulation, and it did not arise as a result of
    rule-making or an adversarial process.          At most, it is entitled to Skidmore
    deference, meaning that the deference it is due is “proportional to its ‘power to
    persuade.’” See United States v. Mead Corp., 
    533 U.S. 218
    , 235, 
    121 S. Ct. 2164
    ,
    2175-76 (citing Skidmore v. Swift & Co., 
    323 U.S. 134
    , 140, 
    65 S. Ct. 161
    , 164
    (1944)).
    We do not defer to this test because, with all due respect to the DOL and the
    important work that it does, we do not find it persuasive. First, “an agency has no
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    special competence or role in interpreting a judicial decision.”                   Glatt v. Fox
    Searchlight Pictures, Inc., 791 F3d 376, 383 (2d Cir. 2015) (citation omitted).
    Second, as the Second Circuit has observed, the test “attempts to fit Portland
    Terminal’s particular facts to all workplaces, and . . . is too rigid . . . .” 
    Id. Third, while
    some circuits have given some deference to the test, no circuit has adopted it
    wholesale and has deferred to the test’s requirement that “all” factors be met for a
    trainee not to qualify as an “employee” under the FLSA. In short, we prefer to
    take our guidance on this issue directly from Portland Terminal and not from the
    DOL’s interpretation of it.
    D.
    We therefore return to Portland Terminal. Since Portland Terminal, courts
    reviewing cases involving students and trainees have focused on the Supreme
    Court’s language describing the program at issue in that case as having “most
    greatly benefit[ed]” the trainees. As a result, these courts have, for the most part,
    concentrated on evaluating the “primary beneficiary” of the training or school
    program to determine whether participants constituted “employees” under the
    FLSA, 7 generally concluding that such an approach reveals the “economic reality”
    7
    See, e.g., 
    Glatt, 791 F.3d at 383
    (“[T]he proper question is whether the intern or the
    employer is the primary beneficiary of the relationship.”); McLaughlin v. Ensley, 
    877 F.2d 1207
    ,
    1209 (4th Cir. 1989) (“[T]he proper legal inquiry in this case is whether [the employer] or the
    [trainees] principally benefited from the weeklong [training] arrangement.”); Donovan v. Am.
    Airlines, Inc., 
    686 F.2d 267
    , 271-72 (5th Cir. 1982) (analogizing the facts of the case to those at
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    of the situation.8        In doing so, they have considered the entirety of the
    circumstances, balancing a variety of factors 9 that often entail comparing the facts
    of the case to the facts in Portland Terminal or to the six factors that the DOL sets
    forth in its Handbook. As we have explained, both forms of comparison are
    effectively the same.
    E.
    But most recently, in 
    Glatt, 791 F.3d at 384
    , the Second Circuit has reflected
    on the limitations of comparing the characteristics of the modern internship to the
    specific facts at issue in Portland Terminal. As the Second Circuit observed,
    issue in Portland Terminal and noting that Portland Terminal turned on the determination that
    the training “most greatly benefit[ed] the trainees”); 
    Solis, 642 F.3d at 529
    (“To conclude, we
    hold that the proper approach for determining whether an employment relationship exists in the
    context of a training or learning situation is to ascertain which party derives the primary benefit
    from the relationship.”); Blair v. Willis, 
    420 F.3d 823
    , 829 (8th Cir. 2005) (finding that students
    were not “employees” because the chores that they were required to do were “primarily for the
    students’, not the [school’s] benefit”); Marshall v. Regis Educ. 
    Corp., 666 F.2d at 1326-27
    (comparing respective benefits of the student resident assistants and the college where they
    engaged in the program to determine whether the resident assistants were “employees” of the
    college and noting that “[t]he mere fact that the College [employer] may have derived some
    economic value from the [resident assistant] program does not override the educational benefits
    of the program and is not dispositive of the ‘employee’ issue”).
    8
    One court that has applied the primary-beneficiary standard has opined, however, that
    “stat[ing] that economic realities govern is no more helpful than attempting to determine
    employment status by reference directly to the FLSA’s definitions themselves.” 
    Solis, 642 F.3d at 522-23
    .
    9
    See, e.g., 
    Glatt, 791 F.3d at 384
    (citing with approval Barfield v. N.Y.C. Health &
    Hosps. Corp., 
    537 F.3d 132
    , 141-42 (2d Cir. 2008) for the proposition that “employment for
    FLSA purposes is ‘a flexible concept to be determined on a case-by-case basis by review of the
    totality of the circumstances’” and applying a “set of non-exhaustive factors” to determine
    whether interns were “employees”); 
    McLaughlin, 877 F.2d at 1210
    (evaluating all of the “factual
    circumstances”); Am. 
    Airlines, 686 F.2d at 272
    (endorsing “balancing analysis”); 
    Solis, 642 F.3d at 529
    -32 (considering all of the “[f]actors” and “evidence”); 
    Blair, 420 F.3d at 829
    (evaluating
    the “totality of the economic circumstances”); Regis Educ. 
    Corp., 666 F.2d at 1326
    (considering
    the “circumstances of the whole activity”).
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    Portland Terminal is now 68 years old.                 
    Id. The facts
    of that case do not
    necessarily “reflect[] the role of internships in today’s economy . . . .” See 
    id. (referring to
    the DOL’s Handbook guidance).
    We add to these points the significant fact that the training involved in
    Portland Terminal was not a universal requirement for a particular type of
    educational degree or for professional certification or professional licensure in the
    field. Instead, the Portland Terminal training was offered by a company for its
    own, specific purposes, to create a ready labor pool for itself. So trying to evaluate
    the program at issue here by comparing it to all of the facts from Portland
    Terminal that were relevant and helpful to assessing the training program at issue
    in that case, is like trying to use a fork to eat soup. Like the fork and the spoon, the
    training at issue in Portland Terminal and in the case under review have
    similarities and may be in the same general category (eating utensils and training
    programs). But comparison to the facts from Portland Terminal alone can cover
    the gamut of relevant considerations in a case like the one before us no better than
    a fork can do a spoon’s job in ladling soup. 10
    10
    Our references here are to the traditional fork and spoon, not the “spork,” a utensil that
    is a cross between a spoon and a fork, or as President Clinton once jokingly described it in
    explaining at the 1995 Radio and Television Correspondents’ Dinner that his administration was
    reinventing government’s approach to school lunches by “cut[ting] the cutlery,” “the symbol of
    [his] administration.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01tRdTvmKpo (last visited Aug. 27,
    2015).
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    Longer-term, intensive modern internships that are required to obtain
    academic degrees and professional certification and licensure in a field are just too
    different from the short training class offered by the railroad in Portland Terminal
    for the purpose of creating its own labor pool. As exemplified by the facts of the
    pending case, modern internships can play an important—indeed critical—role in
    preparing students for their chosen careers. Imagine if a CRNA could report to
    work on her first day and be allowed unsupervised to conduct the induction,
    maintenance, and emergence phases of anesthesia administration, having only ever
    read about or watched someone else perform them. The potential danger and
    discomfort to the patient under such circumstances is self-evident and startling. So
    we need anesthesiologists and CRNAs who are willing to teach SRNAs their trade
    through internships.
    Yet taking on the responsibility of supervising and teaching SRNAs is a
    heavy one with serious potential costs.           We cannot realistically expect
    anesthesiology practices to expose themselves to these costs by providing students
    with the opportunity to participate in 550 cases each, without receiving some type
    of benefit from the arrangement. See Am. 
    Airlines, 686 F.2d at 272
    (“if attendance
    were solely for the trainee’s benefit, the company would not conduct the [training]
    except as a matter of altruism or public pro bono”).
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    But the mere fact that an anesthesiology practice obtains benefits from
    offering SRNAs internships cannot, standing alone, render the student interns
    “employees” for purposes of the FLSA. See, e.g., 
    Solis, 642 F.3d at 530-31
    (though the school derived benefits from students’ work at its facilities, the value
    of the benefits to the students from the work arrangement outweighed the benefits
    to the school, so the students were not “employees”). Indeed, there is nothing
    inherently wrong with an employer’s benefiting from an internship that also plainly
    benefits the interns.
    Nevertheless, we recognize the potential for some employers to maximize
    their benefits at the unfair expense and abuse of student interns. And that is a
    problem.
    So our dilemma arises in determining how to discern the primary beneficiary
    in a relationship where both the intern and the employer may obtain significant
    benefits. We think that the best way to do this is to focus on the benefits to the
    student while still considering whether the manner in which the employer
    implements the internship program takes unfair advantage of or is otherwise
    abusive towards the student. This orientation allows for student internships to
    accomplish their important goals but still accounts for congressional concerns in
    enacting the FLSA.
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    We also believe that the Second Circuit’s articulation of “a non-exhaustive
    set of considerations” for evaluation in determining the “primary beneficiary” in
    cases involving modern internships goes far towards fulfilling this function. In
    particular, the Second Circuit has identified the following factors:
    1.    The extent to which the intern and the employer
    clearly understand that there is no expectation of
    compensation. Any promise of compensation,
    express or implied, suggests that the intern is an
    employee—and vice versa.
    2.    The extent to which the internship provides
    training that would be similar to that which would
    be given in an educational environment, including
    the clinical and other hands-on training provided
    by educational institutions.
    3.    The extent to which the internship is tied to the
    intern’s formal education program by integrated
    coursework or the receipt of academic credit.
    4.    The extent to which the internship accommodates
    the    intern’s    academic      commitments     by
    corresponding to the academic calendar.
    5.    The extent to which the internship’s duration is
    limited to the period in which the internship
    provides the intern with beneficial learning.
    6.    The extent to which the intern’s work
    complements, rather than displaces, the work of
    paid employees while providing significant
    educational benefits to the intern.
    7.    The extent to which the intern and the employer
    understand that the internship is conducted without
    entitlement to a paid job at the conclusion of the
    internship.
    
    Glatt, 791 F.3d at 384
    . Under the Second Circuit’s approach, “[n]o one factor is
    dispositive and every factor need not point in the same direction for the court to
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    conclude that the intern is not an employee . . . .” 
    Id. Rather, courts
    must engage
    in a “weighing and balancing [of] all of the circumstances,” including, where
    appropriate, other considerations not expressed in the seven factors. 
    Id. The Second
    Circuit has described this approach as “flexible” and “faithful to Portland
    Terminal,” reasoning that “[n]othing in the Supreme Court’s decision suggests that
    any particular fact was essential to its conclusion or that the facts on which it relied
    would have the same relevance in every workplace.” 
    Id. at 384-85.
    We agree with the Second Circuit’s reasoning and its interpretation of
    Portland Terminal. The factors that the Second Circuit has identified effectively
    tweak the Supreme Court’s considerations in evaluating the training program in
    Portland Terminal to make them applicable to modern-day internships like the
    type at issue here.
    In many ways, the Glatt factors involve consideration of the same or similar
    facts to those that the Supreme Court found important in Portland Terminal and
    that the DOL Handbook guidance deemed relevant factors for consideration.
    Indeed, factors 2, 3, and 5 are more detailed expressions of Portland Terminal’s
    concern that the training be similar to that available in a vocational or other
    educational environment.       Likewise, factors 2 through 6 reflect Portland
    Terminal’s attention to the benefit to the intern. In addition, factors 2 and 6 relate
    directly to Portland Terminal’s consideration of whether the intern displaces
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    regular employees and whether the intern works under the close supervision of
    existing employees. Finally, factors 1 and 7 are essentially the same as Portland
    Terminal’s considerations that the intern and employer both understand that the
    intern will not receive wages and that the intern is not entitled to a job upon
    completion of the internship, respectively.
    Only Portland Terminal’s reference to the railroad’s receipt of “no
    ‘immediate advantage’ from any work done by the trainees” is not accounted for
    by the Glatt factors. But the training in Portland Terminal was so different from a
    modern internship for academic, certification, and licensure purposes that we do
    not see how this particular consideration sheds light on the primary-beneficiary
    analysis here.    In Portland Terminal, despite not receiving an “immediate
    advantage” from the training program, the railroad had a significant economic
    incentive to offer the training because it needed a ready pool of qualified brakemen
    from which it could hire. In the absence of the training, there may well not have
    been any. If the railroad had also obtained a direct and immediate financial or
    competitive advantage from providing a training program that it was going to have
    to offer for its own business reasons regardless of whether it received a direct
    advantage, that could have served as an indication that the railroad was taking
    unfair advantage of the situation.
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    But, as we have explained, the modern internship as a requirement for
    academic credit and professional certification and licensure is very different. For
    starters, the students seeking the internships—as opposed to a particular company’s
    business requirements—drive the need for the internships to exist.           Second,
    licensure and certification laws provide evidence that we as a society have decided
    that clinical internships are necessary and important. Third, we find it difficult to
    conceive that anesthesiology practices would be willing to take on the risks, costs,
    and detriments of teaching students in a clinical environment for extended periods
    (four semesters, for example) without receiving some benefit for their troubles. As
    we have further noted, though, the mere fact that an employer obtains a benefit
    from providing a clinical internship does not mean that the employer is the
    “primary beneficiary” of the relationship.         Therefore, we cannot see how
    consideration of whether the employer gains an “immediate advantage” from an
    internship, in and of itself, brings us any closer to resolving who the primary
    beneficiary of the relationship is.
    Instead, we focus on the Glatt factors. In order to allow the district court to
    apply these factors in the first instance and, if it desires, to permit the parties to
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    supplement the record, we remand this case to the district court. But first we
    provide some guidance on applying some of the factors.11
    The fourth factor focuses on the extent to which the internship
    accommodates the intern’s academic commitment by corresponding to the
    academic calendar. In a case like this one, where the clinical training and the
    academic commitment are one and the same, this consideration must account for
    whether a legitimate reason exists for clinical training to occur on days when
    school is out of session.
    As for the fifth factor—the extent to which the internship’s duration is
    limited to the period in which the internship provides the intern with beneficial
    learning—this consideration must recognize the goals of the internship and
    determine whether the duration of the internship is necessary to accomplish them.
    In making this evaluation, the court should keep in mind that designing an
    internship is not an exact science.           We cannot expect that the length of the
    internship will always match up perfectly with the skills to be taught and the
    experience to be gained through the program. An internship that is longer than
    absolutely necessary to accomplish the educational and experiential goals of the
    program does not necessarily weigh in favor of a determination that the intern is an
    11
    Certain factors, such as the first one, for instance, are self-explanatory, so we do not
    elaborate on them.
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    “employee.”     Instead, the court should consider whether the duration of the
    internship is grossly excessive in comparison to the period of beneficial learning.
    As part of this consideration, the court should also evaluate the extent to
    which the nature of the training requires the daily schedule that the intern must
    endure.   In this case, graduation, certification, and licensure requirements all
    demanded that students participate in at least 550 cases involving a variety of
    procedures. Again, we imagine that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to plan
    the scheduling of SRNAs for precisely 550 different procedures over four
    semesters, particularly in view of the constantly changing nature of the medical
    schedule. Nor do we think that the law requires such precision. We also note that
    the SRNAs’ clinical work was required to extend for four semesters, even if the
    Students finished 550 cases in a shorter period. As a result, it does not seem to us
    that the four-semester duration of the program would have been excessive, no
    matter how many cases the students completed during that time. But if the reason
    that the SRNAs completed well in excess of 550 cases during their four clinical
    semesters was because they were made to work grossly excessive hours, that
    would be an indication that the employer may have unfairly taken advantage of or
    otherwise abused the SRNAs and that they should be regarded as “employees”
    under the FLSA.
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    The sixth factor evaluates the extent to which the intern’s work
    complements, rather than displaces, the work of paid employees while providing
    significant educational benefits to the intern.     This case involves a unique
    consideration on this factor. The Students assert that CRNAs each worked fewer
    hours than they otherwise would have, in the absence of the SRNAs, meaning that
    the SRNAs displaced CRNA hours.          For support, they point to the Revised
    Teaching Rule, which allowed Collier to be reimbursed by Medicare for providing
    anesthesia in two rooms while having to pay only a single CRNA—something that
    Collier could not have done if the SRNAs were not there.
    We do not opine on whether, in fact, CRNAs worked fewer hours as a result
    of the SRNAs’ presence, under the Revised Teaching Rule. But if they did, we do
    not think that such a fact, in and of itself, would resolve which party this factor
    favors. The analysis under this factor must also account for the existence of a
    Medicare rule that contemplates the use of two SRNAs to assist one CRNA in two
    rooms simultaneously. A Medicare rule obviously cannot inform whether a SRNA
    is an “employee” under the FLSA.          Nevertheless, the rule’s existence and
    endorsement of the staffing of two patient rooms with one CRNA and two SRNAs
    suggests that, at least from an anesthesia-administration point of view, there was
    nothing unsafe or wrong with Collier’s scheduling of two SRNAs to be overseen
    by a single CRNA.       Under these circumstances, therefore, it would not be
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    appropriate to consider Collier’s use of the Rule as evidence that Collier unfairly
    took advantage of the SRNAs when it scheduled two SRNAs to be supervised by a
    single CRNA. Of course, to the extent that CRNA hours may have been displaced
    by SRNA hours for reasons other than the Revised Teaching Rule, the court should
    evaluate those circumstances on their own merit.
    In applying the factors to ascertain the primary beneficiary of an internship
    relationship, we caution that the proper resolution of a case may not necessarily be
    an all-or-nothing determination. That is, we can envision a scenario where a
    portion of the student’s efforts constitute a bona fide internship that primarily
    benefits the student, but the employer also takes unfair advantage of the student’s
    need to complete the internship by making continuation of the internship implicitly
    or explicitly contingent on the student’s performance of tasks or his working of
    hours well beyond the bounds of what could fairly be expected to be a part of the
    internship.12 For example, in the context of an internship required for an academic
    degree and professional licensure and certification in a medical field, consider an
    employer who requires an intern to paint the employer’s house in order for the
    student to complete an internship of which the student was otherwise the primary
    beneficiary.    Under those circumstances, the student would not constitute an
    12
    By explaining this point, we do not mean to suggest that a split decision would or
    would not be appropriate in this particular case. In the interests of thoroughness, though, we
    simply note this point.
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    “employee” for work performed within the legitimate confines of the internship but
    could qualify as an “employee” for all hours expended in painting the house, a task
    so far beyond the pale of the contemplated internship that it clearly did not serve to
    further the goals of the internship.
    Finally, we do not take a position at this time regarding whether the Students
    in this case were “employees” for purposes of the FLSA.
    IV.
    With these factors in mind, we vacate the district court’s entry of summary
    judgment for Defendants and remand for further proceedings consistent with this
    opinion.
    VACATED AND REMANDED.
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