United States v. Ellisa Martinez ( 2013 )


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    [PUBLISH]
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT
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    No. 11-13295
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    D.C. Docket No. 0:10-cr-60332-KMM-1
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    versus
    ELLISA MARTINEZ,
    Defendant-Appellant.
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    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Florida
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    (November 27, 2013)
    Before CARNES, Chief Judge, BLACK, Circuit Judge, and RESTANI,∗ Judge.
    PER CURIAM:
    ∗
    The Honorable Jane A. Restani, United States Court of International Trade Judge,
    sitting by designation.
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    Ellisa Martinez appeals her conviction under 18 U.S.C. § 875(c) for
    knowingly transmitting a threatening communication. We affirm.
    I. FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    On November 10, 2010, talk-show host Joyce Kaufman at WFTL radio
    received an anonymous email form-response stating:
    Dear Ms. Kaufman I was so thrilled to see you speak in person for
    congressman elect west. I was especially exited [sic] to hear you
    encourage us to exercise our second amendment gun rights. I felt
    your plan to organize people with guns in the hills of Kentucky and
    else where was a great idea. I know that you know one election is not
    enough to take our country back from the illegal aliens, jews,
    muslims, and illuminati who are running the show. I am so glad you
    support people who think like me. i’m planning something big around
    a government building here in Broward County, maybe a post office,
    maybe even a school, I’m going to walk in and teach all the
    government hacks working there what the 2nd amendment is all
    about. Can I count on your help? you and those people you know in
    Kentucky? we’ll end this year of 2010 in a blaze of glory for sure.
    thanks for your support mrs kaufman. what does sarah say, don’t
    retreat, reload! let’s make headlines girl!
    Several hours after this email was sent, an anonymous woman called WFTL. She
    told station officials that her husband had sent the prior email, that he was mentally
    ill, and that he was now planning to open fire at a nearby school. The anonymous
    woman implored the station to broadcast a plea asking her husband not to carry out
    the shooting.
    These communications prompted the Pembroke Pines Police Department to
    institute a “Code Red” lockdown on all Broward County schools. The Police
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    Department also shut down several other public buildings, requiring officers to
    work overtime securing the facilities. Ultimately, however, no shooting occurred
    and the anonymous woman sent no further communications.
    Soon after these events, investigators discovered that both anonymous
    communications were sent by the same person: Ellisa Martinez. Initially,
    Martinez denied any involvement in or knowledge of the incident. However, once
    a grand jury indicted her for making a true threat in violation of 18 U.S.C.
    § 875(c), and once the district court denied her motion to dismiss the indictment,
    Martinez pleaded guilty.
    In pleading guilty, Martinez reserved the right to appeal the denial of her
    motion to dismiss the indictment on the following issues: (1) whether the
    indictment was insufficient because it did not allege Martinez subjectively
    intended to convey a threat to injure others; and (2) whether § 875(c) was
    unconstitutionally overbroad because it did not require the Government to prove
    the speaker subjectively intended her statements to constitute a threat.
    Concurrent with her guilty plea, Martinez and the Government executed and filed a
    factual stipulation. That stipulation recounted the legal elements of an offense
    under § 875(c) and detailed the factual basis of Martinez’s crime. Martinez
    conceded that she knowingly and willfully sent the November 10th email, and
    that “the email contained language that an objectively reasonable jury could find
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    beyond a reasonable doubt to be a serious expression of an intent to injure
    another person.” At her change-of-plea hearing, Martinez acknowledged she
    understood the plea agreement, and the Government read the parties’ factual
    stipulation aloud in court.
    After the district court accepted Martinez’s guilty plea, the court ultimately
    ordered Martinez to pay the Police Department $5,350.89 in restitution for the
    costs incurred securing and safeguarding the schools and students in Broward
    County, Florida, as a result of her offense. Martinez appealed.
    II. THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND TRUE THREATS
    Pursuant to her conditional guilty plea, Martinez brings two constitutional
    challenges under the First Amendment. First, Martinez contends her indictment
    was constitutionally deficient under Virginia v. Black, 
    538 U.S. 343
    , 
    123 S. Ct. 1536
    (2003), because it did not allege she subjectively intended to convey a threat
    to injure others. Second, Martinez argues that, if § 875(c) does not require
    subjective intent, the statute is unconstitutionally overbroad.1
    A. True Threats and Intent
    While the First Amendment generally prohibits the Government from
    restricting speech based on its message or viewpoint, Ashcroft v. ACLU, 
    535 U.S. 564
    , 573, 
    122 S. Ct. 1700
    , 1707 (2002), the First Amendment’s free-speech
    1
    We review constitutional challenges de novo. United States v. Acuna-Reyna, 
    677 F.3d 1282
    , 1284 (11th Cir. 2012).
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    protections are not absolute, see Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 
    315 U.S. 568
    , 571,
    
    62 S. Ct. 766
    , 769 (1942). In certain narrowly drawn categories, the Government
    may permissibly restrict speech on the basis of content. United States v. Stevens,
    
    130 S. Ct. 1577
    , 1584 (2010). These categories of unprotected speech do not
    require case-by-case balancing because the harms they impose “so overwhelmingly
    outweigh[]” any First Amendment concerns that the “balance of competing
    interests is clearly struck.” New York v. Ferber, 
    458 U.S. 747
    , 763–64, 
    102 S. Ct. 3348
    , 3358 (1982).
    “True threats” are one such category of unprotected speech. United States v.
    Alvarez, 
    132 S. Ct. 2537
    , 2544 (2012) (plurality opinion). Although statutes
    penalizing speech “must be interpreted with the commands of the First
    Amendment clearly in mind,” Watts v. United States, 
    394 U.S. 705
    , 707, 
    89 S. Ct. 1399
    , 1401 (1969), objective threats of violence contribute nothing to public
    discourse and enjoy no First Amendment protection, see R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul,
    
    505 U.S. 377
    , 382–83, 
    112 S. Ct. 2538
    , 2542–43 (1992). The critical issue for the
    true threats doctrine is distinguishing true threats from mere political hyperbole;
    while the former are outside the First Amendment, the latter is entitled to full
    constitutional protection. See 
    Watts, 394 U.S. at 707
    –08, 89 S. Ct. at 1401–02.
    Martinez argues that the Supreme Court’s decision in Virginia v. Black
    draws the distinction between true threats and protected speech based on the
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    speaker’s subjective intent. Relying on Ninth Circuit precedent, Martinez contends
    Black redefined true threats to require proof the speaker subjectively intended to
    threaten listeners. See United States v. Bagdasarian, 
    652 F.3d 1113
    , 1116 (9th Cir.
    2011) (holding that a threat—even one “objective observers would reasonably
    perceive . . . as a threat of injury or death”—cannot be prosecuted unless the
    speaker subjectively intended the speech to be a threat). Therefore, Martinez
    claims, her indictment was constitutionally insufficient because it did not allege
    she acted with the subjective intent to threaten.
    1. Origins of the True Threats Doctrine
    The true threats doctrine took shape in Watts v. United States. 
    See 394 U.S. at 705
    –08, 89 S. Ct. at 1399–1402. In Watts, the Supreme Court reversed the
    conviction of a man charged with knowingly and willfully threatening the
    President under 18 U.S.C. § 871(a), based on the following statements:
    They always holler at us to get an education. And now I have already
    received my draft classification as 1-A and I have got to report for my
    physical this Monday coming. I am not going. If they ever make me carry a
    rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J. They are not going to
    make me kill my black brothers.
    
    Id. at 705–06,
    89 S. Ct. at 1400–01 (internal quotation marks omitted).
    Although the Court acknowledged that true threats were not protected
    expression, the Court nonetheless held that Watts’s statements were mere “political
    hyperbole.” Id. at 
    707–08, 89 S. Ct. at 1401
    . When taken in context, the Court
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    could not see how Watts’s statements could be interpreted as anything other than
    “a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the
    President.” 
    Id. at 708,
    89 S. Ct. at 1402 (internal quotation marks omitted).
    Importantly, the Court reached this conclusion based on the objective
    characteristics of the speech and the context in which it was delivered—the Court
    did not speculate as to the speaker’s subjective mental state. See 
    id. For example,
    the Court looked to where the statement was made: in public during a group
    political debate. 
    Id. Additionally, the
    Court looked to the nature of the statement:
    it was expressly conditional upon Watts’s conscription into the military—an event
    he vowed would never occur. Id. at 
    707–08, 89 S. Ct. at 1401
    –02. Finally, the
    Court looked to the reaction of those in attendance: listeners as well as the speaker
    “laughed after the statement was made.” 
    Id. Following Watts
    , most federal courts of appeals defined true threats
    according to an objective standard. See Doe v. Pulaski Cnty. Special Sch. Dist.,
    
    306 F.3d 616
    , 622 (8th Cir. 2002) (en banc) (noting that, while some courts applied
    a reasonable-speaker standard and others a reasonable-listener standard, “[a]ll the
    courts to have reached the issue . . . consistently adopted an objective test” for true
    threats). Between Watts in 1969 and Black in 2003, this Court in particular
    consistently applied an objective, reasonable-person test when distinguishing true
    threats from protected speech. See United States v. Callahan, 
    702 F.2d 964
    , 965
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    (11th Cir. 1983); United States v. Bozeman, 
    495 F.2d 508
    , 510 (5th Cir. 1974).2
    Under that objective standard, a true threat is a communication that, when taken in
    context, “would have a reasonable tendency to create apprehension that its
    originator will act according to its tenor.” United States v. Alaboud, 
    347 F.3d 1293
    , 1296–97 (11th Cir. 2003) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    2. Virginia v. Black and True Threats
    Despite this history and precedent, Martinez contends Black altered the
    Watts framework for true threats and tacitly overruled our case law defining true
    threats according to an objective standard. However, four circuits to address the
    issue have declined to adopt Martinez’s reading of that decision. See United States
    v. Elonis, 
    730 F.3d 321
    , 332 (3d Cir. 2013) (“[W]e find that Black does not alter
    our precedent.”); United States v. Nicklas, 
    713 F.3d 435
    , 440 (8th Cir. 2013)
    (joining the majority of circuits which have held that, in the wake of Black,
    § 875(c) does not require the Government to prove a defendant specifically
    intended his or her statements to be threatening); United States v. Jeffries, 
    692 F.3d 473
    , 479 (6th Cir. 2012); United States v. White, 
    670 F.3d 498
    , 508 (4th Cir. 2012)
    (“A careful reading of the requirements of § 875(c), together with the definition
    from Black, does not, in our opinion, lead to the conclusion that Black introduced a
    2
    In Bonner v. City of Prichard, 
    661 F.2d 1206
    , 1209 (11th Cir. 1981) (en banc), this
    Court adopted as binding precedent all decisions of the former Fifth Circuit handed down prior
    to the close of business on September 30, 1981.
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    specific-intent-to-threaten requirement into § 875(c) and thus overruled our
    circuit’s jurisprudence, as well as the jurisprudence of most other circuits, which
    find § 875(c) to be a general intent crime and therefore require application of an
    objective test in determining whether a true threat was transmitted.”). But see
    United States v. Cassel, 
    408 F.3d 622
    , 633 (9th Cir. 2005) (holding that Black
    requires a subjective-intent analysis).
    We agree with the Sixth Circuit that Black did not work a “sea change,”
    tacitly overruling decades of case law by importing a requirement of subjective
    intent into all threat-prohibiting statutes. 
    Jeffries, 692 F.3d at 479
    ; see also 
    Elonis, 730 F.3d at 332
    (“Black does not clearly overturn the objective test the majority of
    circuits applied to § 875(c).”).
    In Black, the Supreme Court addressed a state statute making it a crime to
    burn a cross with the “intent of intimidating any person or group.” 
    See 538 U.S. at 347
    –48, 123 S. Ct. at 1541 (internal quotation marks omitted). Although the Court
    divided in its rationale, a majority of the Court reaffirmed the basic holding of
    Watts and other cases that true threats are not protected under the First
    Amendment. See 
    id. at 358–60,
    123 S. Ct. at 1547–48. The Court defined true
    threats as “those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious
    expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular
    individual or group of individuals.” 
    Id. at 359,
    123 S. Ct. at 1548. According to a
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    plurality of the Court, because the statute made the act of cross burning prima facie
    evidence of intent to intimidate, it effectively rendered cross burning a
    strict-liability offense. See 
    id. at 365,
    123 S. Ct. at 1550–51 (plurality opinion).
    And, without any mens rea requirement, the statute covered more than just true
    threats and “create[d] an unacceptable risk of the suppression of ideas.” 
    Id. (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    Contrary to Martinez’s argument, Black did not import a subjective-intent
    analysis into the true threats doctrine. Rather, Black was primarily a case about the
    overbreadth of a specific statute—not whether all threats are determined by a
    subjective or objective analysis in the abstract. See 
    Jeffries, 692 F.3d at 479
    –80
    (observing that Black “says nothing about imposing a subjective standard on other
    threat-prohibiting statutes, and indeed had no occasion to do so: the Virginia law
    itself required subjective ‘intent.’ The problem in Black thus did not turn on
    subjective versus objective standards for construing threats. It turned on
    overbreadth—that the statute lacked any standard at all”). When interpreting a
    statute like § 875(c), which articulates no explicit mens rea requirement and is
    therefore treated as a general-intent crime, see United States v. Duran, 
    596 F.3d 1283
    , 1292 (11th Cir. 2010), Black leaves our analysis and objective standard
    unaltered.
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    Black’s definition of true threats is fully consistent with a general-intent
    standard examining only the objective characteristics of the speech act. See 
    White, 670 F.3d at 509
    . General-intent crimes require only that the defendant actually
    intend to perform the prohibited act; she need not subjectively intend the precise
    purpose or results of the crime. 
    Id. at 508;
    see also Carter v. United States, 
    530 U.S. 255
    , 268, 
    120 S. Ct. 2159
    , 2168 (2000). Similarly, Black defined true threats
    as those statements a speaker means to communicate—i.e., knowingly
    communicate—that contain a serious expression of violent intent. See Black, 538
    U.S. at 
    359, 123 S. Ct. at 1548
    (majority opinion). However, the speaker need not
    subjectively intend her statement to be a threat, in much the same way she need not
    subjectively intend to violate the law or “actually intend to carry out the threat.”3
    See 
    id. The Supreme
    Court’s definition of intimidation buttresses our interpretation
    of true threats. Black defined “intimidation” as a “type of true threat” directed with
    the intent—i.e., the specific, subjective intent—to place listeners in fear of bodily
    harm or death. See 
    id. at 360,
    123 S. Ct. at 1548. By defining intimidation to
    3
    Moreover, objective standards are not unusual in the free-speech context. See, e.g.,
    
    White, 670 F.3d at 511
    ; see also FEC v. Wis. Right to Life, Inc., 
    551 U.S. 449
    , 468–69, 
    127 S. Ct. 2652
    , 2666 (2007) (refusing to base First Amendment doctrine on a speaker’s subjective
    motivation); NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 
    458 U.S. 886
    , 927–29, 
    102 S. Ct. 3409
    , 3433
    (1982) (analyzing the objective circumstances surrounding the speech to determine how it
    “might have been understood” by listeners); Norwell v. City of Cincinnati, 
    414 U.S. 14
    , 16, 94 S.
    Ct. 187, 188 (1973) (holding that a speaker’s subjective motivation was not relevant to whether
    his speech qualified as “abusive language or fighting words”).
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    include a subjective-intent analysis, Black indicated that the general class of true
    threats does not require such an inquiry into the speaker’s subjective mental state.
    After all, intimidation is but one type of true threat—a true threat delivered with a
    particular, subjectively held intent. See 
    id. (suggesting speech
    qualifies as
    intimidation when it is “intended to create a pervasive fear in victims that they are
    a target of violence” (emphasis added)). But explicitly requiring subjective intent
    for one discrete type of true threat makes little sense if the Court intended all true
    threats to require such intent.
    Finally, we find the Third Circuit’s recent opinion in Elonis persuasive. In
    rejecting the same reading of Black that Martinez urges on us, the Third Circuit
    clearly and precisely explained why that decision did not alter the well-established
    understanding of the true threats doctrine. See 
    Elonis, 730 F.3d at 327
    –32.
    Particularly noteworthy is the Third Circuit’s insight that “[l]imiting the definition
    of true threats to only those statements where the speaker subjectively intended to
    threaten would fail to protect individuals from the fear of violence and the
    disruption that fear engenders, because it would protect speech that a reasonable
    speaker would understand to be threatening.” 
    Id. at 330
    (internal quotation marks
    omitted).
    Accordingly, we hold that Black does not require a subjective-intent analysis
    for all true threats. 
    Id. at 332
    (“Black does not say that the true threats exception
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    requires a subjective intent to threaten”). Knowingly transmitting the threat makes
    the act criminal—not the specific intent to carry it out or the specific intent to
    cause fear in another. United States v. Fuller, 
    387 F.3d 643
    , 646 (7th Cir. 2004)
    (citing United States v. Kelner, 
    534 F.2d 1020
    , 1025 (2d Cir. 1976)). Therefore,
    when the Government shows that “a reasonable person would perceive the threat
    as real,” a true threat may be punished and “any concern about the risk of unduly
    chilling protected speech has been answered.” 
    Jeffries, 692 F.3d at 478
    .
    B. Overbreadth and § 875(c)
    Next, Martinez argues that if subjective intent is not required for prosecution
    under § 875(c), the statute is unconstitutionally overbroad. Under the First
    Amendment, a statute is overbroad if “a substantial number of its applications are
    unconstitutional, judged in relation to the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.”
    
    Stevens, 130 S. Ct. at 1587
    (internal quotation marks omitted). In making this
    determination, we first construe the statute so that its meaning is clear. United
    States v. Williams, 
    553 U.S. 285
    , 293, 
    128 S. Ct. 1830
    , 1838 (2008). We then
    determine whether the statute, as construed, “criminalizes a substantial amount of
    protected expressive activity.” 
    Id. at 297,
    128 S. Ct. at 1841.
    After conducting this analysis, we conclude Martinez’s overbreadth claim is
    meritless. In its entirety, § 875(c) provides:
    Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any
    communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any
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    threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or
    imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
    18 U.S.C. § 875(c).
    The actus reus of the statute is transmitting a threat—that is, a true threat.
    See 
    White, 670 F.3d at 508
    . A true threat is determined from the position of an
    objective, reasonable person, see 
    Alaboud, 347 F.3d at 1296
    –97, unless a particular
    offense involves “intimidation,” see 
    Black, 538 U.S. at 359
    –60, 123 S. Ct. at 1548.
    Section 875(c), however, is silent as to mens rea, requiring neither an intent to
    place the victim in fear of bodily harm or death, nor any other showing of specific
    intent. See United States v. Francis, 
    164 F.3d 120
    , 122 (2d Cir. 1999) (“There is
    nothing in the language or legislative history of Section 875(c) suggesting that
    Congress intended it to be a specific-intent crime.”).
    As a result, § 875(c) is a general-intent offense that requires the Government
    to show (1) the defendant transmitted a communication in interstate or foreign
    commerce, (2) the defendant transmitted that communication knowingly, and
    (3) the communication would be construed by a reasonable person as a serious
    expression of an intent to inflict bodily harm or death. Cf. 
    Callahan, 702 F.2d at 965
    . Section 875(c) “does not require the government to prove a defendant
    specifically intended his or her statements to be threatening.” 
    Nicklas, 713 F.3d at 440
    .
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    Construed this way, § 875(c) does not sweep up a “substantial amount of
    protected expressive activity.” See Williams, 553 U.S. at 
    297, 128 S. Ct. at 1841
    .
    To the contrary, because we construe the statute as applying to true threats—and
    only true threats—§ 875(c) on its face criminalizes no protected expressive
    activity. After all, true threats fall “outside the First Amendment,” 
    R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 388
    , 112 S. Ct. at 2546, since they are “so intertwined with violent action
    that” they “essentially become conduct rather than speech,” 
    Francis, 164 F.3d at 123
    , inflicting injury on the listener “‘by their very utterance,’” 
    Jeffries, 692 F.3d at 480
    (quoting 
    Chaplinsky, 315 U.S. at 572
    , 62 S. Ct. at 769).4
    Thus, unlike the statute in Black, § 875(c) does not permit a jury to convict
    any time “defendants exercise their constitutional right not to put on a defense,”
    nor does it permit the Government “to arrest, prosecute, and convict a person based
    solely on” protected expression. See 538 U.S. at 
    365, 123 S. Ct. at 1550
    –51
    (plurality opinion). While cross burning can receive protection under the First
    Amendment in certain instances, see 
    id. at 366,
    123 S. Ct. at 1551, true threats,
    however communicated, are categorically not protected under the First
    Amendment, see Madsen v. Women’s Health Ctr., Inc., 
    512 U.S. 753
    , 773, 114 S.
    4
    Our construction of § 875(c) does not bar defendants from bringing as-applied
    challenges if prosecuted for speech that does not constitute a true threat. Cf. Broadrick v.
    Oklahoma, 
    413 U.S. 601
    , 615–16, 
    93 S. Ct. 2908
    , 2918 (1973). But Martinez has not brought an
    as-applied claim—and for good reason. In the factual stipulation supporting her plea agreement,
    Martinez admitted sending her threatening email “willfully,” which is to say, she “voluntarily
    and intelligently” made her threat with “an apparent determination to carry [it] out.” 
    Pilkington, 583 F.2d at 747
    . Martinez has no claim that § 875(c) is unconstitutional as applied to her.
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    Ct. 2516, 2529 (1994). Accordingly, § 875(c) does not chill constitutionally
    protected speech, because § 875(c) on its face does not permit the Government to
    “prosecute—and potentially convict—somebody engaging only in lawful political
    speech at the core of what the First Amendment is designed to protect.” 
    Black, 538 U.S. at 365
    , 123 S. Ct. at 1551.
    Martinez’s argument that § 875(c) allows for the prosecution of a would-be
    Good Samaritan who mistakenly shouts “fire!” in a crowded theater fails for
    numerous reasons, not the least of which is that one imaginative hypothetical does
    not justify applying the “strong medicine” of the overbreadth doctrine. See
    Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 
    413 U.S. 601
    , 613, 
    93 S. Ct. 2908
    , 2916 (1973). Like any
    other law, § 875(c) is not overbroad simply because litigants “can hypothesize
    some deterrent effect on protected speech.” See Shackelford v. Shirley, 
    948 F.2d 935
    , 940 (5th Cir. 1991). Because invalidating § 875(c) on overbreadth grounds is
    a “last resort,” see 
    Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 613
    , 93 S. Ct. at 2916, we must, when
    possible, “construe the statute to avoid constitutional problems,” 
    Ferber, 458 U.S. at 769
    n.24, 102 S. Ct at 3361 n.24.
    In this case, we have construed § 875(c) in a manner that does not raise
    constitutional concerns. Because true threats are unprotected speech, and because
    our reading of § 875(c) limits that statute to true threats, Martinez has not
    demonstrated a “realistic danger” that § 875(c) will “significantly compromise
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    recognized First Amendment protections.” City Council of City of Los Angeles v.
    Taxpayers for Vincent, 
    466 U.S. 789
    , 801, 
    104 S. Ct. 2118
    , 2126–27 (1984).
    Accordingly, we uphold the statute in the face of Martinez’s overbreadth claim. 5
    III. CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons, Martinez’s conviction and the district court’s
    order of restitution are AFFIRMED.
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    We also affirm the district court’s partial denial of Martinez’s motion for
    reconsideration and its order imposing $5,350.89 in restitution. Not only did Martinez herself
    initially recommend $7,567.51 in restitution, but the court also did not clearly err when it
    found—based on Martinez’s factual stipulation—that her offense directly and proximately
    caused the Pembroke Pines Police Department’s losses. See United States v. Robertson, 
    493 F.3d 1322
    , 1334 (11th Cir. 2007). Moreover, contrary to Martinez’s assertions, the restitution
    order did not include investigatory and prosecutorial costs. Rather, the court expressly limited
    restitution to the costs of securing schools in the wake of Martinez’s offense.
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    CARNES, Chief Judge, concurring in the result:
    There is a difference between speech that is a true threat, which may be
    constitutionally banned, and speech that is just hot invective which cannot be. The
    majority opinion draws the line between those two types of speech using the
    decision in Virginia v. Black, 
    538 U.S. 343
    , 
    123 S. Ct. 1536
    (2003), as its straight
    edge. Using the same straight edge, I might draw a different line. But I need not
    decide whether I would because the nature of the defendant’s challenge to the
    statute before us makes it unnecessary to do so.
    I.
    Martinez was convicted under 18 U.S.C. § 875(c), which criminalizes the
    transmission in interstate commerce of “any threat to injure the person of another.”
    The indictment charged that she knowingly transmitted a communication that
    contained a threat to injure another person. She challenges the sufficiency of the
    indictment because of its failure to allege that she transmitted the threat with the
    intent to cause fear of bodily harm.
    II.
    To the extent that Martinez’s challenge is one of statutory interpretation,
    arguing that § 875(c) itself requires that the defendant have intended to cause the
    necessary fear, our decision in United States v. Alaboud, 
    347 F.3d 1293
    (11th Cir.
    2003), forecloses her position. The Alaboud decision held that what § 875(c)
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    requires is that the communication and the context in which it was made “would
    cause a reasonable person to construe it as a serious intention to inflict bodily
    harm,” not that the defendant have intended to cause that result. 
    Id. at 1297;
    see
    also 
    id. (“[T]he offending
    remarks must be measured by an objective standard.”);
    
    id. at 1297
    n.3 (explaining that we have never specified whether we use a listener-
    based or speaker-based test, and instead have asked only how a reasonable person
    would construe the communication). We are bound by the Alaboud decision to
    hold that, as a matter of statutory interpretation, an intent to cause a fear of bodily
    harm is not required by § 875(c). And as a later panel we must adhere to that
    holding even if we think that the Alaboud panel may have overlooked the Black
    decision, which came out six months earlier but was not mentioned in Alaboud.
    See, e.g., Smith v. GTE Corp., 
    236 F.3d 1292
    , 1300–04 (11th Cir. 2001).
    III.
    Martinez’s challenge goes beyond statutory interpretation, however, and in
    that way slips the grip of the Alaboud decision. She contends that her indictment
    is invalid because the failure to require an intent to cause fear of bodily harm
    renders § 875(c) facially overbroad and unconstitutional on its face. The Alaboud
    Court decided not to address the constitutionality of the statute because the
    defendant had not raised that issue in the district court. See 
    Alaboud, 347 F.3d at 19
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    1295 n.1. Because Martinez did raise the issue in the district court, we must deal
    with it.
    The majority rejects Martinez’s facial attack on § 875(c) because it
    concludes that the Supreme Court’s Black decision “does not require a subjective-
    intent analysis for true threats.” Maj. Op. at 7, 10–15. While I have my doubts
    about the majority’s reading of Black, those doubts do not affect the result in this
    case because Martinez’s sole constitutional challenge to § 875(c) is that the
    provision is facially overbroad. It is not.1 For that reason, I feel it is unnecessary
    to take sides in the existing circuit split on whether Black requires a subjective-
    intent analysis for true threats. See Maj. Op. at 8–9. Even assuming that it does,
    Martinez cannot prevail on her facial challenge to § 875(c).
    A facial challenge that is based on some ground other than First Amendment
    overbreadth can succeed only “by establishing that no set of circumstances exists
    under which the Act would be valid, i.e., that the law is unconstitutional in all of its
    applications.” Wash. State Grange v. Wash. State Republican Party, 
    552 U.S. 442
    ,
    449, 
    128 S. Ct. 1184
    , 1190 (2008) (quotation marks and alteration omitted); see
    also Am. Fed’n of State, Cnty. & Mun. Emps. Council 79 v. Scott, 
    717 F.3d 851
    ,
    863 (11th Cir. 2013) (holding that to succeed on a facial attack “‘the challenger
    1
    From her motion to dismiss the indictment in the district court through her initial brief
    to this Court, Martinez has never raised an as applied challenge to the statute.
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    must establish that no set of circumstances exists under which the Act would be
    valid’”) (quoting United States v. Salerno, 
    481 U.S. 739
    , 745, 
    107 S. Ct. 2095
    ,
    2100 (1987)).
    A First Amendment overbreadth challenge, however, is different. See, e.g.,
    Virginia v. Hicks, 
    539 U.S. 113
    , 118, 
    123 S. Ct. 2191
    , 2196 (2003) (“The First
    Amendment doctrine of overbreadth is an exception to our normal rule regarding
    the standards for facial challenges.”). An overbreadth challenge does not require a
    showing that there is no set of circumstances in which the statute could be applied
    constitutionally, but it does require a showing that a “substantial number of [a
    statute’s] applications are unconstitutional, judged in relation to [its] plainly
    legitimate sweep.” Wash. State 
    Grange, 552 U.S. at 449
    n.6, 128 S. Ct. at 1190 
    n.6
    (quotation marks omitted). The difference is between having to show that all
    applications of the statute are unconstitutional and having to show that a
    substantial number of them are. It is still a difficult showing to make, and the
    burden of making it is on the challenger.
    The Supreme Court has cautioned that we should “not apply the strong
    medicine of overbreadth analysis where the parties fail to describe the instances of
    arguable overbreadth of the contested law.” 
    Id. (quotation marks
    omitted) (citing
    N.Y. State Club Ass’n v. City of New York, 
    487 U.S. 1
    , 14, 
    108 S. Ct. 2225
    , 2234
    (1988)). In its N.Y. State Club decision, the Supreme Court refused to strike down
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    a law on overbreath grounds because there was no definitive showing of the actual
    amount of its allegedly unconstitutional applications. The Court explained:
    To succeed in its challenge, appellant must demonstrate from the text
    of Local Law 63 and from actual fact that a substantial number of
    instances exist in which the Law cannot be applied constitutionally.
    Yet appellant has not identified those clubs for whom the
    antidiscrimination provisions will impair their ability to associate
    together or to advocate public or private viewpoints. No record was
    made in this respect, we are not informed of the characteristics of any
    particular clubs, and hence we cannot conclude that the Law threatens
    to undermine the associational or expressive purposes of any club, let
    alone a substantial number of them. We therefore cannot conclude
    that the Law is substantially overbroad and must assume that whatever
    overbreadth may exist should be cured through case-by-case analysis
    of the fact situations to which its sanctions, assertedly, may not be
    applied.
    N.Y. State 
    Club, 487 U.S. at 14
    , 108 S.Ct. at 2234–35 (quotation marks omitted).
    Similarly, in this case Martinez has made no showing “from the text of [§ 875(c)]
    and from actual fact that a substantial number of instances exist in which
    [§ 875(c)] cannot be applied constitutionally.” 
    Id., 108 S.Ct.
    at 2234. For that
    reason, we “cannot conclude that [§ 875(c)] is substantially overbroad and must
    assume that whatever overbreadth may exist should be cured through case-by-case
    analysis of the fact situations” in which its application would be unconstitutional.
    
    Id., 108 S.Ct.
    at 2235 (quotation marks omitted). That is what the Supreme Court
    has told us to do.
    While the Supreme Court has acknowledged that substantial overbreadth is
    “not readily reduced to an exact definition,” Members of the City Council of L.A.
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    v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 
    466 U.S. 789
    , 800, 
    104 S. Ct. 2118
    , 2126 (1984), it has
    declined to find a statute overbroad when it was unlikely that the amount of
    protected expression falling within the scope of the statute would “amount to more
    than a tiny fraction of the materials within the statute’s reach.” New York v.
    Ferber, 
    458 U.S. 747
    , 773, 
    102 S. Ct. 3348
    , 3363 (1982). That is the situation here.
    Martinez refers to a rare, almost unicornical category of speech communicated by a
    speaker who “acts with innocent intent, but negligently conveys a message that
    others [reasonably] find to be threatening.” Appellant’s Br. at 20. More than a law
    school exam hypothetical is required. The analysis must partake of reality and a
    substantial amount of overbreadth must be shown.
    The Supreme Court has instructed:
    [T]he mere fact that one can conceive of some impermissible
    applications of a statute is not sufficient to render it susceptible to an
    overbreadth challenge.        On the contrary, the requirement of
    substantial overbreadth stems from the underlying justification for the
    overbreadth exception itself — the interest in preventing an invalid
    statute from inhibiting the speech of third parties who are not before
    the Court.
    City Council of 
    L.A., 466 U.S. at 800
    , 104 S.Ct. at 2126 (footnote omitted). The
    Court emphasized that “there must be a realistic danger that the statute itself will
    significantly compromise recognized First Amendment protections of parties not
    before the Court for it to be facially challenged on overbreadth grounds.” 
    Id. at 801,
    104 S.Ct. at 2126. And in making that determination we are guided by the
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    admonition that the “application of the overbreadth doctrine is ‘strong medicine’
    that should be used ‘sparingly and only as a last resort.’” Fla. Ass’n of Prof’l
    Lobbyists, Inc. v. Div. of Legislative Info. Servs. of the Fla. Office of Legislative
    Servs., 
    525 F.3d 1073
    , 1079 (11th Cir. 2008) (quoting Broadrick v. Oklahoma, 
    413 U.S. 601
    , 613, 
    93 S. Ct. 2908
    , 2916 (1973)).
    This is not one of those rare, last resort cases where we must use the strong
    medicine of overbreadth doctrine. Section 875(c)’s restriction on speech is itself
    significantly restricted by the objective requirement that a reasonable person would
    believe from the speech and its circumstances that the defendant intended to harm
    another. See 
    Alaboud, 347 F.3d at 1297
    (holding that the government must prove
    that a reasonable person would “construe [the communication] as a serious
    expression of an intention to inflict bodily harm”) (quotation marks omitted).
    Given that requirement –– and assuming Martinez is right that the First
    Amendment requires proof of the speaker’s subjective intent to threaten –– there
    would be two categories of cases within the scope of § 875(c). The constitutional
    application category would include all of the cases in which a reasonable person
    would believe that the defendant intended to cause fear of bodily harm and she did
    actually intend that. The unconstitutional application category would include only
    the cases in which a reasonable person would believe that the defendant intended
    to cause fear of bodily harm but she did not actually intend that. Martinez has not
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    shown that the unconstitutional category cases are substantial in relation to the
    constitutional category ones. As a result, even assuming that the First Amendment
    requires proof of subjective intent, Marinez’s overbreadth challenge fails. See
    
    Broadrick, 413 U.S. at 615
    , 93 S.Ct. at 2918.
    For this reason, I agree with my colleagues that Martinez’s conviction is due
    to be affirmed. 2
    2
    I also agree with them that the district court’s restitution order is due to be affirmed,
    although I would apply plain error review and hold that in light of our decision in United States
    v. Washington, 
    434 F.3d 1265
    (11th Cir. 2006), the district court did not plainly err.
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