United States v. Loy ( 2001 )


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    United States v. Loy
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    Docket 99-3827
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    Filed January 4, 2001
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    No. 99-3827
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    v.
    RAY DONALD LOY,
    Appellant
    APPEAL FROM THE
    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE WESTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
    (D.C. No. 98-cr-00089)
    District Judge: Alan N. Bloch
    Argued: March 9, 2000
    BEFORE: BECKER, Chief Judge, NYGAARD and
    GARWOOD,* Circuit Judges
    (Filed January 4, 2001)
    Marketa Sims, Esq. (Argued)
    Office of Federal Public Defender
    960 Penn Avenue
    415 Convention Tower
    Pittsburgh, PA 15222
    Attorney for Appellant
    _________________________________________________________________
    *Honorable Will L. Garwood, United States Cir cuit Judge for the Fifth
    Circuit, sitting by designation.
    Bonnie R. Schlueter, Esq.
    Mary Beth Buchanan, Esq. (Argued)
    Office of United States Attorney
    633 United States Post Office &
    Courthouse
    Pittsburgh, PA 15219
    Attorneys for Appellee
    OPINION OF THE COURT
    BECKER, Chief Judge.
    Ray Donald Loy is currently serving a 33-month term of
    imprisonment following his conviction for receiving and
    possessing child pornography. After being r eleased from
    prison, he will be required to serve thr ee years of
    supervised release, subject to several special conditions,
    two of which are at issue in this appeal. Thefirst condition
    prohibits Loy from possessing "all for ms of pornography,
    including legal adult pornography." The second condition
    bars Loy from having unsupervised contact with minor
    children, and further specifies that the r equisite
    supervision must come from someone other than his wife.
    Loy challenges these conditions, arguing that the
    pornography condition is vague and overbr oad, and that
    the condition restricting contact with minors is not only
    vague and unsupported by the record, but could also
    potentially inhibit Loy's ability to have and raise his own
    children, in violation of his rights of pr ocreation and
    familial integrity.
    At the threshold, we must address the government's
    contention that Loy's challenge to the pornography
    condition should not be addressed befor e an attempt has
    been made to enforce its terms. W e disagree, holding that
    the challenge is properly made at this time. W e therefore
    turn to the merits of Loy's arguments, and conclude that
    the prohibition on pornography is unconstitutionally vague
    because it fails to provide any method for Loy or his
    probation officer to distinguish between those items that
    are merely titillating and those items that are
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    "pornographic"; nor, in fact, does the prohibition even
    provide any guidance as to whether the r estriction extends
    only to visual materials, or whether purely textual works
    and sound recordings fall within its scope. Therefore, we
    vacate this condition and remand to the District Court so
    that it may, if it so chooses, impose a new condition in
    accordance with the standards we set forth.
    As for the restriction on contact with minors, we
    conclude that, although the condition might ar guably
    extend to Loy's own (infant) children should he sire any
    upon his release from prison and befor e the three-year term
    of supervised release ends, given the lack of evidence to
    suggest that such an unlikely interpretation was intended
    by the District Court (and the constitutional questions that
    such an interpretation would raise), we will construe this
    condition not to extend to any children that Loy might have
    for the brief period of time that would be involved. We also
    construe the condition not to extend to accidental or
    unavoidable contact with children, such as might occur in
    public arenas. So construed, we uphold the condition as
    written and find that it comports with statutory and
    constitutional requirements.
    I. Facts and Procedural History
    This is the second time Loy has asked us to r eview the
    special conditions imposed on his supervised r elease. The
    following facts are taken largely verbatim from our decision
    in Loy's first appeal. See United States v. Loy, 
    191 F.3d 360
    , 362-64 (3d Cir. 1999). Of course, we have
    supplemented our previous factual discussion as necessary
    to reflect developments that have occurr ed in the interim.
    In 1997, the United States Postal Inspection Service and
    the Pennsylvania State Attorney General's Office conducted
    a joint undercover child pornography investigation. As part
    of that investigation, Special Agent Dave Guzy of the
    Attorney General's Office placed an advertisement in a
    sexually explicit magazine that, in a roundabout way,
    invited readers to trade pornographic materials involving
    children. The advertisement directed inter ested parties to
    respond in writing to Postal Inspector Thomas Kochman,
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    although Kochman's affiliation with the Inspection Service
    obviously was not disclosed. On March 6, 1997, Ray
    Donald Loy wrote to Kochman indicating that he and his
    wife, Maria, both collected child pornography, and
    expressing an interest in trading tapes. Loy stated that if
    Kochman was serious about trading, he should call Loy so
    that they could discuss it over the telephone.
    On March 17, 1997, Kochman monitored and r ecorded a
    call placed by Guzy to Loy. During that conversation, Loy
    gave detailed descriptions of some of the tapes in his
    collection, and told Guzy that he could "put together" tapes
    for trading. He also represented that he traded with many
    people and offered to give Guzy their names. Loy described
    how he had produced videos by hiding a camcor der in his
    bag and filming up the skirts of young girls as they rode the
    escalators at a mall, and, in the course of the conversation,
    Loy specified that he was interested in r eceiving material
    involving girls ranging from age eight to age thirteen. He
    specifically requested that Guzy send him a tape of girls
    between the ages of eight and ten in a bathtub ("Bath Time
    video"), which Guzy agreed to do. On April 28, 1997,
    Kochman received a letter from Loy bearing the return
    address of R. Loy, P.O. Box 114, Langeloth, Pennsylvania
    15054. Again, Loy asked that the Bath Time video be sent
    to him. In exchange, Loy offered to send a video of twelve-
    and thirteen-year-old children engaged in sexually explicit
    conduct.
    On May 6, 1997, Postal Inspector Thomas Clinton
    delivered the package containing the Bath T ime video to
    Loy's post office box in Langeloth and observed Loy accept
    delivery of the package. Other agents maintained
    surveillance of Loy as he left the post office and returned
    home with the package. Loy was observed entering his
    residence with the package in his possession. Clinton then
    executed a previously obtained search warrant, seizing from
    Loy's residence the Bath Time videotape as well as another
    tape depicting child pornography, fifteen computer disks
    containing child pornography, fifty videocassettes, several
    pornographic magazines, a VCR, and a television set.
    Clinton also seized various letters describing Loy's
    solicitation of child pornography and his of fers to trade
    such materials.
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    In September 1998, Loy pled guilty to one count of
    knowingly receiving child pornography thr ough the United
    States mail in violation of 18 U.S.C. S 2252(a)(2). He had
    also been indicted on one count of violating S 2252(a)(4)(B).
    At the time, Section 2252(a)(4)(B) made it a crime to
    knowingly possess: (1) three or more items; (2) containing
    visual depictions; (3) produced using materials transported
    in interstate and foreign commerce; (4) if production of the
    materials involved the use of minors engaging in sexually
    explicit conduct. See 18 U.S.C.A. S 2252(a)(4)(B) (West
    1997). Prior to entering his plea, Loy had challenged the
    S 2252(a)(4)(B) count by filing a motion to suppress the
    evidence on which it was based. The District Court denied
    the motion, and Loy then entered a conditional guilty plea
    on the S 2252(a)(4)(B) count that preserved his right to
    appeal from the denial.
    The District Court sentenced Loy to a 33-month ter m of
    imprisonment, followed by three years of supervised
    release. Additionally, the court imposed special conditions
    on Loy's supervised release, requiring him, inter alia, to
    undergo testing and treatment for drug and alcohol abuse,
    prohibiting him from having unsupervised contact with
    minors, and forbidding him from possessing por nography of
    any type. Loy objected to these special conditions, arguing
    that they were not supported by the recor d and that they
    violated his fundamental rights. In the first appeal, we
    upheld the denial of Loy's motion to suppress and the
    condition requiring drug testing, but r emanded the case to
    the District Court to state its reasons why the remaining
    conditions had been imposed. See Loy, 191 F .3d at 369-71.
    Following remand, the District Court enter ed an order
    amending Loy's sentence to eliminate the condition that he
    undergo testing and treatment for alcohol abuse while on
    supervised release. The court then reimposed the
    conditions barring Loy from possessing por nography of any
    type, as well as from having any unsupervised contact with
    minors, adding the further requirement that any
    supervision must come from someone other than his wife.
    In reimposing these conditions, the court explained that
    because "it is sometimes impossible to dif ferentiate between
    children and adults in pornographic materials," the former
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    condition was necessary to protect childr en who are
    victimized in child pornography as well as to deter Loy from
    further criminal conduct or from attempting to obtain
    illegal child pornography. The latter condition was imposed
    to protect the minors with whom Loy might come into
    contact, and to deter Loy from attempting to cr eate
    "sexually explicit depictions of children." Loy now appeals
    for a second time, from an amended judgment of sentence
    entered in the District Court for the W estern District of
    Pennsylvania. The District Court had jurisdiction pursuant
    to 18 U.S.C. S 3231, which grants the district courts
    jurisdiction over all offenses against the laws of the United
    States. We have jurisdiction to review the District Court's
    final order pursuant to 28 U.S.C. S 1291 and 18 U.S.C.
    S 3742(a).
    II. Standard of Review
    A sentencing court's decision to impose conditions of
    supervised release is reviewed for abuse of discretion. See
    United States v. Loy, 
    191 F.3d 360
    , 370 n.7 (3d Cir. 1999)
    (citing United States v. Crandon, 173 F .3d 122, 127 (3d
    Cir.), cert. denied, 
    120 S. Ct. 138
    (1999)). A condition is
    within the court's discretion if two criteria are met. First,
    the condition must be reasonably related to the factors set
    forth in 18 U.S.C. S 3553(a)(1) & (2)(B)-(D). Accordingly, in
    imposing conditions of supervised release, the sentencing
    court may consider: (1) the nature and cir cumstances of
    the offense and the history and characteristics of the
    defendant; and (2) the need for the condition to deter future
    criminal conduct, protect the public, and pr ovide the
    defendant with necessary training, medical car e, or other
    correctional treatment. See 18 U.S.C. S 3553(a)(1) & (2)(B)-
    (D); see also 
    Loy, 191 F.3d at 370
    .
    Second, a condition must involve no greater deprivation
    of liberty than is reasonably necessary to achieve the
    deterrence, public protection and/or corr ectional treatment
    for which it is imposed. See 18 U.S.C. S 3583(d)(2). Further,
    a condition that restricts fundamental rights must be
    "narrowly tailored and . . . dir ectly related to deterring [the
    defendant] and protecting the public." 
    Crandon, 173 F.3d at 128
    .
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    III. The Challenge to the Pornography Prohibition
    A. Justiciability
    Before reaching the merits of Loy's claim, we must
    address the government's contention that Loy's challenge to
    the pornography proscription is not justiciable. The
    government advances several arguments on this score,
    implicating both the ripeness doctrine and standing
    considerations. Relying on United States v. Thomas, 
    198 F.3d 1063
    , 1065 (8th Cir. 1999) (holding that a prisoner's
    challenge to a condition of supervised release was
    premature because he would "not be subject to the
    condition for nearly a decade, during which time any
    number of events may occur that would make the condition
    irrelevant"), the government explains that, inter alia, an
    incarcerated prisoner may no longer have the same interest
    in engaging in the prohibited activity upon r elease from
    prison, and further, that vagueness challenges to conditions
    of supervised release are prematur e until those conditions
    have been interpreted by a probation officer. The
    government now asks that, "[a]s a matter of judicial policy,"
    we refrain from entertaining due pr ocess challenges to
    conditions of supervised release prior to a violation of those
    conditions. Although the government avoids the words, it
    essentially asks us to hold that Loy's challenge fails to meet
    the prudential aspects of ripeness.
    Additionally, in recommending that we adopt a judicial
    policy of refusing to hear due process challenges to
    unenforced conditions of release, the government also relies
    on the standing requirements typically necessary to mount
    vagueness challenges to statutes that do not infringe
    constitutionally protected rights. Thus, citing Parker v.
    Levy, 
    417 U.S. 733
    (1974), the government has argued that
    because vagueness challenges may typically only be made
    in the context of particular purported violations, Loy must
    wait until he is facing revocation proceedings before he will
    be able to raise his claim. We will addr ess each of these
    arguments in turn, ultimately holding that Loy's claim is
    not only justiciable, but, in fact, consideration at this time
    promotes judicial efficiency and is in keeping with the
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    demonstrated congressional intent that sentences be
    reviewed on direct appeal.
    1. Ripeness
    In United States v. Stine, 
    646 F.2d 839
    (3d Cir. 1981),
    this Court held that a defendant who failed to appeal a
    probation condition at the time it was enter ed against him
    was barred from lodging a facial attack on the condition as
    a defense in a revocation proceeding. See 
    id. at 846-47.
    In
    so doing, we observed that "the federal courts have
    uniformly permitted defendants sentenced to probation to
    challenge the validity of their probation conditions on direct
    appeal." 
    Id. at 846
    n.16. In United States v. Ofchinick, 
    937 F.2d 892
    (3d Cir. 1991), we reaffirmed Stine, holding that a
    challenge to a condition of supervised release mounted
    immediately after the sentence met the Article III test for
    ripeness. Our holding in Ofchinick was based in part on the
    fact that, if the defendant waited until revocation
    proceedings to challenge the condition, he would likely be
    found to have waived his right to object. See 
    id. at 897.
    In
    that case, we characterized as "illogic[al]" the government's
    position that a probationer must risk incar ceration in order
    to challenge a condition. See 
    id. at 897
    n.5.
    Although helpful in guiding our approach to the issue,
    these cases do not explicitly address the "prudential"
    ripeness doctrine. That doctrine is intended to"prevent the
    courts . . . from entangling themselves in abstract
    disagreements over administrative policies, and also to
    protect the agencies from judicial inter ference until an
    administrative decision has been formalized and its effects
    felt in a concrete way." Abbott Labs. v. Gardner, 
    387 U.S. 136
    , 148 (1967). In determining whether a claim is ripe, a
    court must look at: (1) "the hardship to the parties of
    withholding court consideration"; and (2) thefitness of the
    legal issue for judicial review. 
    Id. at 149;
    see also Artway v.
    Attorney General of N.J., 
    81 F.3d 1235
    , 1247 (3d Cir. 1996).
    In view of the government's contentions, we analyze this
    case in terms of these elements of the prudential ripeness
    doctrine.
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    a. Hardship to Parties
    The essence of Loy's claim is that not knowing the scope
    of the pornography proscription is, in itself, a hardship. He
    argues that because of the vagueness, he will not know
    what he can and cannot view. If, as the gover nment argues,
    he must wait until he is arrested to lear n whether or not he
    has violated the condition, the hardship to him is apparent.
    As we held in Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare v.
    United States Department of Health & Human Services , 
    101 F.3d 939
    (3d Cir. 1996), the fact that a party may be forced
    to alter his behavior so as to avoid penalties under a
    potentially illegal regulation is, in itself, a hardship. In so
    doing, we opined that an argument to the contrary would
    be
    like saying that an increase in the inter est rate charged
    for late payments on a credit card pr esents no
    hardship to the customer because the customer has
    not yet made a delayed payment under the new and
    higher interest rate. We disagree with that premise.
    Instead, we think it more likely that the customer will
    have to change his behavior at the time he is infor med
    of the rate hike in order to avoid the risk of having to
    pay the higher interest rate and hence will suf fer a
    direct hardship at the time of the rate hike. The fact
    that the new, higher interest rate is a contingent future
    charge does not preclude it from causing harm to the
    party at the time it is put into place.
    
    Id. at 946.
    In addition, the government's blanket r equirement that
    Loy face revocation proceedings befor e being permitted to
    challenge his conditions of release is at odds with the
    Supreme Court's pronouncement in Stef fel v. Thompson,
    
    415 U.S. 452
    (1974), where the Court stated that "it is not
    necessary that petitioner first expose himself to actual
    arrest or prosecution to be entitled to challenge a statute
    that he claims deters the exercise of his constitutional
    rights." 
    Id. at 459.
    b. Fitness for Judicial Review
    An examination of the "fitness for judicial r eview" of a
    particular claim requires that a court look at the nature of
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    the question presented. Therefore, we will examine
    "whether or not the question is purely legal and easy to
    resolve." Pennsylvania Dep't of Pub. W elfare v. United States
    Health & Human Servs., 
    101 F.3d 939
    , 945 (3d Cir. 1996).
    As we have said, "[t]he more that the question presented is
    purely one of law, and the less that additional facts will aid
    the court in its inquiry, the more likely the issue is to be
    ripe, and vice-versa." Artway v. Attor ney General of N.J., 
    81 F.3d 1235
    , 1249 (3d Cir. 1996).
    In this case, the question is purely one of law: whether
    the pornography proscription is unconstitutionally vague
    and does not provide Loy with sufficient notice of what he
    may do. Nothing about this contention will change between
    now and the time when he is released fr om prison. The
    government would prefer that we addr ess Loy's challenge in
    the context of a particular magazine or other publication
    (an argument that has the perverse quality of asking us to
    refuse to rule on Loy's vagueness challenge because the
    condition is too vague to analyze). Although such
    contextual grounding would indeed allow us to determine
    whether or not the particular publication at issue fell within
    the condition, it would not in any way assist in the more
    general analysis of whether the condition pr ovides Loy with
    sufficient warning to "know what is pr ohibited, so that he
    may act accordingly" in his day-to-day activities. Grayned v.
    City of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 108 (1972). The
    government's approach would have Loy discover the
    meaning of his supervised release condition only under
    continual threat of reimprisonment, in sequential hearings
    before the court. Such an exercise is not necessary, nor will
    it clarify the issues.
    c. Congressional Intent
    In Abbott Laboratories, the Supreme Court held that
    congressional intent is an important component of the
    prudential ripeness inquiry. See Abbott Labs. v. Gardner,
    
    387 U.S. 136
    , 139-40 (1967). The legislative history of the
    Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 evidences Congr ess's
    intention that direct appellate review be the preferred
    method of reviewing a district court's sentence. See S. Rep.
    No. 98-225, at 151 (1984), reprinted in 1984 U.S.C.C.A.N.
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    3182, 3334 (noting, in the context of a discussion of
    procedures for direct appellate r eview of sentences, that
    "most Western nations . . . consider review at the behest of
    either the defendant or the public to be a fundamental
    precept of a rational sentencing system, and the Committee
    considers it to be a critical part of the foundation for the
    bill's sentencing structure"); 
    id. at 154,
    reprinted in 1984
    U.S.C.C.A.N. at 3337 ("The Committee intends that a
    sentence be subject to modification through the appellate
    process. . . ."). Section 3742 of Title 18 of the United States
    Code, which allows for appellate review of sentences, was
    added in 1984 as part of the congressional scheme to
    ensure greater uniformity in sentencing. See S. Rep. No.
    98-225, at 150, reprinted in 1984 U.S.C.C.A.N. at 3333.
    This change from the previous regime, which provided for
    no such review, demonstrates the extent to which Congress
    felt that the appellate process was an integral part of the
    formulation of the sentence. Cf. 
    id. at 151,
    reprinted in
    1984 U.S.C.C.A.N. at 3334 ("Appellate review of sentences
    is essential to assure that the guidelines ar e applied
    properly and to provide case law development of the
    appropriate reasons for sentencing outside the guidelines.
    This, in turn, will assist the Sentencing Commission in
    refining the sentencing guidelines. . . ."). Thus, the
    legislative history of the current sentencing scheme
    demonstrates Congress's intention that appellate courts
    consider the legality of conditions of supervised r elease at
    the time of their imposition, rather than only in the context
    of an appeal from a revocation proceeding.
    2. Standing
    The government alternatively contends that Loy does not
    have standing to raise his claim, on the ground that "[o]ne
    to whose conduct a statute clearly applies may not
    successfully challenge it for vagueness." Parker v. Levy, 
    417 U.S. 733
    , 756 (1974). The government submits that Loy
    cannot be heard until the condition has been applied to his
    specific conduct. However, there ar e crucial differences
    between the context in which Loy presents his challenge
    and the contexts in which the traditional standing
    requirements for vagueness challenges wer e developed.
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    A typical vagueness challenge is brought as a defense to
    a criminal charge, and can only be raised by a defendant
    whose own conduct arguably did not fall within the terms
    of the statute, thus allowing the defendant to claim that the
    lack of fair notice led to a deprivation of liberty without due
    process of law. See, e.g., United States v. National Dairy
    Prods. Corp., 
    372 U.S. 29
    , 32-33 (1963) ("Void for
    vagueness simply means that criminal responsibility should
    not attach where one could not reasonably understand that
    his contemplated conduct is proscribed. In determining the
    sufficiency of the notice a statute must of necessity be
    examined in light of the conduct with which a defendant is
    charged." (citations omitted)). A defendant whose conduct is
    at the "core" of the activities clearly covered by the statute's
    terms may only raise a vagueness defense if the statute is
    one that is likely to chill the exercise of constitutionally
    protected conduct. See United States v. Mazurie, 
    419 U.S. 544
    , 550 (1975) ("It is well established that vagueness
    challenges to statutes which do not involve First
    Amendment freedoms must be examined in light of the
    facts of the case at hand.").1Vagueness claims are therefore
    subject to different standing requir ements depending on
    the nature of the statute or rule under attack. 2
    As a convicted felon sentenced to a term of supervised
    release, Loy's constitutional rights do not have the same
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    1. See also Kolender v. Lawson, 
    461 U.S. 352
    , 359 n.8 (1983) (holding
    that facial vagueness challenges are per missible where "a law reaches a
    substantial amount of constitutionally protected conduct" (citation
    omitted)); Hoffman Estates v. Flipside, Hoffman Estates, Inc., 
    455 U.S. 489
    , 494-95 (1982) (noting that, if a statute "implicates no
    constitutionally protected conduct," a pr eenforcement challenge can
    succeed on vagueness grounds only if the statute is "impermissibly
    vague in all of its applications"); Young v. American Mini Theatres, Inc.,
    
    427 U.S. 50
    , 59-60 (1976) ("[I]f the statute's deterrent effect on
    legitimate
    expression" is "real and substantial," parties may challenge the statute
    "even though there is no uncertainty about the impact . . . on their own
    rights.").
    2. When a statute is vague and arguably involves protected conduct,
    vagueness analysis will necessarily intertwine with overbreadth analysis.
    See Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 494
    n.6 ("[A] court should evaluate the
    ambiguous as well as the unambiguous scope of the enactment. To this
    extent, the vagueness of a law affects overbr eadth analysis.").
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    scope as those of ordinary persons. See United States v.
    Consuelo-Gonzalez, 
    521 F.2d 259
    , 265 & n.14 (9th Cir.
    1975) (observing that "probationers, like parolees and
    prisoners, properly are subject to limitations from which
    ordinary persons are free" and that "[m]erely because a
    convicted individual's fundamental rights ar e involved
    should not make a probation condition . . . automatically
    suspect"). In evaluating constitutional challenges to
    probation conditions, we have upheld conditions that are
    "directly related to deterring [the offender] and protecting
    the public," even when First Amendment inter ests are at
    stake. United States v. Crandon, 173 F .3d 122, 128 (3d
    Cir.), cert. denied, 
    120 S. Ct. 138
    (1999). The government,
    asserting that in the context of supervised r elease there is
    no "protected" conduct to chill, asks us to apply the more
    stringent standing rules to Loy's vagueness and
    overbreadth challenge, requiring him either to mount his
    challenge in the context of a particular purported violation
    so that we can assess whether the condition is vague or
    overbroad with respect to that violation, or, presumably, to
    demonstrate that the condition is vague in all of its
    applications. But the government fails to r ecognize there
    are important differences between a probationer on
    supervised release and a member of the general public that
    affect the standing analysis.
    To begin with, a defendant charged with violating a
    release condition, unlike a defendant char ged with violating
    a statute, does not enjoy "the full panoply of rights"
    normally available in a criminal proceeding. Morrissey v.
    Brewer, 
    408 U.S. 471
    , 480 (1972). For instance, defendants
    in revocation proceedings face a lower standard of proof,
    see 18 U.S.C. S 3583(e) (permitting revocation if a court
    finds, by a preponderance of evidence, that a condition has
    been violated); a greater range of evidence that may be
    admissible against them, see United States v. Bazzano, 
    712 F.2d 826
    , 829 (3d Cir. 1983) (en banc) (per curiam) (no
    exclusionary rule in revocation proceedings); United States
    v. McCallum, 
    677 F.2d 1024
    , 1026 (4th Cir . 1982)
    (permitting hearsay evidence in revocation proceedings); a
    lack of a jury right, see Gagnon v. Scarpelli , 
    411 U.S. 778
    ,
    789 (1973); and no right against self-incrimination, see
    United States v. Conte, 
    99 F.3d 60
    , 66 (2d Cir. 1996). The
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    fewer procedural protections available at a revocation
    proceeding, as opposed to a trial, make it far more
    hazardous for a releasee to wait until a condition has been
    enforced in order to test its validity.
    Secondly, persons under conditions of supervised r elease
    are presumably more likely to be"prosecuted" for their
    violations--these conditions are, after all, special "laws"
    tailored only to them. Loy, as a felon on supervised release,
    is in far more danger as the peculiar tar get of a "law"
    applicable only to him than he would be as a member of
    the general public mounting a challenge to a law that might
    never be applied to his conduct. Cf. Poe v. Ullman, 
    367 U.S. 497
    , 501 (1961) (plurality opinion) (refusing to entertain, on
    prudential justiciability grounds, a challenge to
    Connecticut's ban on the use of contraceptives, observing
    that "[d]uring the more than thr ee-quarters of a century
    since [the law's] enactment, a prosecution for its violation
    seems never to have been initiated" except in a single
    instance).
    Further, because the condition is unique to Loy, there is
    no likelihood of a general groundswell of support for a
    change in the "law." Therefore, limits on standing that have
    been advanced in cases like United States v. Richardson,
    
    418 U.S. 166
    , 175 (1974) (no "taxpayer standing" to
    challenge a statute mandating that CIA expenditur es be
    kept secret), on the ground that "generalized grievances"
    are more appropriately addressed through the political
    process, are inapplicable to challenges to conditions of
    supervised release. And because the condition is applicable
    only to Loy, there is no chance that an "enforcement policy"
    will provide guidance as to the condition's contours.
    Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 502
    .
    On a broader level, it should be remember ed that all of
    the justiciability doctrines--standing, ripeness, and
    mootness--stem in part from a desire to allow the other
    branches of government to engage in their nor mal process
    of lawmaking before invoking the judicial power to stop
    such efforts in their tracks. For instance, in Abbott
    Laboratories v. Gardner, 
    387 U.S. 136
    (1967), the Supreme
    Court explained that the ripeness doctrine in part serves to
    "protect the agencies from judicial interference until an
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    administrative decision has been formalized." 
    Id. at 148.
    Similarly, in Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 
    504 U.S. 555
    (1992), the Court held that the citizen-suit pr ovisions of the
    Endangered Species Act, which conferred standing on "any
    person" to sue United States instrumentalities to force
    compliance with the Act, represented an unconstitutional
    attempt by Congress to breach the separation of powers by
    policing the activities of the Executive branch. See 
    id. at 576-77;
    see also 
    Poe, 367 U.S. at 503
    ("In part [the
    justiciability rules] derive from the fundamental federal and
    tripartite character of our National Government and from
    the role--restricted by its very r esponsibility--of the federal
    courts . . . within that structure.").
    In the context of the supervised release, however, the
    condition applicable to a particular prisoner--that is, the
    "law" being challenged--is created by the judiciary, within
    the jurisdictional boundaries set by Congress. No protection
    is accorded other divisions of government when we stay our
    hand; in fact, by doing so, we actively impede the proper
    process of lawmaking. Congress has entrusted the
    responsibility for formulating appr opriate conditions of
    release to the judiciary, and has provided specific statutory
    permission for offenders to obtain appellate review of their
    sentences at 18 U.S.C. S 3742(a). Ther efore, judicial review
    of criminal sentences is an integral part of the pr ocess of
    creating these individual "laws," and just as legislation is
    only enacted pursuant to bicameralism and pr esentment,
    see INS v. Chadha, 
    462 U.S. 919
    , 954-55 (1983), so too
    criminal sentences are formulated in part through the
    appellate process. To refuse to r eview such a condition
    would be to impede this process of judicial lawmaking.
    3. Judicial Efficiency
    Our position also promotes judicial efficiency. See, e.g.,
    Allstate Ins. Co. v. Wayne County, 760 F .2d 689, 696 (6th
    Cir. 1985) (holding that the ripeness inquiry includes
    considerations of judicial economy); Independent Bankers
    Ass'n of Am. v. Smith, 
    534 F.2d 921
    , 928 (D.C. Cir. 1976)
    (same). Loy is pursuing, as a routine matter , his appellate
    right to challenge a final order of the District Court. We
    review these conditions all the time, and, as a prudential
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    matter, it makes sense to review them at this stage. Just
    last year, we reviewed the conditions of a supervised release
    in United States v. Crandon, 
    173 F.3d 122
    , 128 (3d Cir.),
    cert. denied, 
    120 S. Ct. 138
    (1999), and upheld a condition
    prohibiting the defendant access to the inter net after he
    was convicted of receiving child pornography. The
    government's approach merely ensur es multiple
    adjudications as defendants appeal parts of their sentences
    immediately--as, indeed, they must do under United States
    v. Stine, 
    646 F.2d 839
    (3d Cir. 1981)--and parts of them
    later on. Cf. FTC v. Standard Oil Co., 
    449 U.S. 232
    , 242
    (1980) (ripeness doctrine is intended to prevent "piecemeal
    review" and to ensure judicial efficiency).
    4. Summary
    Thus, (1) we have "case or controversy" jurisdiction; (2)
    the issues are legal ones that we can easily r esolve without
    reference to concrete facts; (3) the defendant will experience
    a hardship if we do not resolve the issues; (4) the
    traditional canons that counsel against hearing these sorts
    of challenges are inapplicable in the context of supervised
    release conditions; and (5) the judicial system has an
    interest in dealing with this case as expeditiously as
    possible, instead of waiting for a distinct appeal of a
    conviction for a violation of the conditions of r elease.
    Therefore, the case is ripe, and we will r each the merits of
    Loy's challenge.
    B. The Jurisprudence
    The District Court ordered that, as a condition of his
    supervised release, Loy be prohibited"from possessing all
    forms of pornography, including legal adult pornography, in
    order to: (1) protect the children that are victimized in the
    production of child pornography; and (2) deter defendant
    from engaging in additional criminal conduct." Loy claims
    that the District Court's order is unconstitutionally vague,
    because "[t]he term ``pornography' lacks a legal definition"
    and "fails to give Mr. Loy notice of which materials he may
    not possess."
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    The constitutional requirement that laws be reasonably
    precise as to the scope of prohibited conduct serves three
    distinct purposes:
    First, because we assume that man is free to steer
    between lawful and unlawful conduct, we insist that
    laws give the person of ordinary intelligence a
    reasonable opportunity to know what is pr ohibited, so
    that he may act accordingly. . . . Second, . . . [a] vague
    law impermissibly delegates basic policy matters to
    policemen, judges, and juries for resolution on an ad
    hoc and subjective basis. . . . Third . . . where a vague
    statute abuts upon sensitive areas of basic First
    Amendment freedoms, it operates to inhibit the
    exercise of [those] freedoms.
    Grayned v. City of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 108-09 (1972)
    (internal citations and quotation marks omitted). A statute
    violates due process of law if it "either forbids or requires
    the doing of an act in terms so vague that men of common
    intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and
    differ as to its application." Connally v. General Constr. Co.,
    
    269 U.S. 385
    , 391 (1926); see also United States v.
    Pungitore et al., 
    910 F.2d 1084
    , 1104 (3d Cir. 1990). The
    same principles apply to a condition of supervised r elease.
    See, e.g., United States v. Schave, 
    186 F.3d 839
    (7th Cir.
    1999) (citing Birzon v. King, 
    469 F.2d 1241
    , 1243 (2d Cir.
    1972)); LoFranco v. United States Parole Comm'n, 986 F.
    Supp. 796, 810-11 (S.D.N.Y. 1997).
    Courts have long grappled with the problem of generating
    definitions to facilitate the regulation of sexually explicit
    materials. In 1957, the Supreme Court held that"obscene"
    speech is beyond the coverage of the First Amendment. See
    Roth v. United States, 
    354 U.S. 476
    , 485 (1957). For years
    afterward, the Court struggled to find a definition of
    "obscenity," see, e.g., Memoirs v. Massachusetts, 
    383 U.S. 413
    (1966); Redrup v. New York, 
    386 U.S. 767
    (1967); Kois
    v. Wisconsin, 
    408 U.S. 229
    (1972) (per curiam), finally
    settling on the now-familiar Miller test, see Miller v.
    California, 
    413 U.S. 15
    (1973). In or der for a work to fall
    outside the scope of the First Amendment, it must: (1)
    taken as a whole, according to community standards,
    appeal to the "prurient interest," (2) depict, "in a patently
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    offensive way," sexual conduct as defined by state law, (3)
    when taken as a whole, lack "serious literary, artistic,
    political, or scientific value." 
    Id. at 24.
    "Sexually-oriented
    work is not obscene unless all three elements of the Miller
    test are satisfied." United States v. Various Articles of
    Obscene Merchandise, Schedule No. 2102, 
    709 F.2d 132
    ,
    135 (2d Cir. 1983).
    The determination whether a particular work is"obscene"
    under the Miller test is an exacting inquiry. Though
    "community standards" are used to determine whether a
    work is patently offensive, see Smith v. United States, 
    431 U.S. 291
    , 301 (1977), a "reasonable person" standard must
    be used to determine whether a work lacks serious merit,
    see Pope v. Illinois, 
    481 U.S. 497
    , 500-501 (1987).
    "Prurience," for Miller purposes, does not include an appeal
    to "normal, healthy sexual desires," but only includes
    "material whose predominate appeal is to a shameful or
    morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excr etion," Brockett v.
    Spokane Arcades, Inc., 
    472 U.S. 491
    , 498 (1985) (internal
    quotation marks omitted). "Sexual conduct" can include
    "lewd exhibition of the genitals," but a distinction must be
    made between exhibitions that are lewd and those that are
    not lewd, because "nudity alone is not enough to make
    material legally obscene." United States v. V arious Articles of
    Merchandise, Schedule No. 287, 230 F .3d 649, 657 (3d Cir.
    2000) (quoting Jenkins v. Georgia, 
    418 U.S. 153
    , 161 (1974)).3
    And, as we recently held, the Miller test's protection for
    works of serious political value "is broad enough to
    encompass that which might tend to bring about ``political
    and social changes.' " Various Articles of 
    Merchandise, 230 F.3d at 658
    (holding that nudist magazines ar e not obscene
    because, inter alia, they "champion nudists' alternative
    lifestyle").
    Many items that would almost certainly fall under the
    general rubric of "pornography" may not be captured by
    Miller's prongs. See, e.g., V arious Articles of Obscene
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    3. Indeed, the panel concluded that the subjects of the nude
    photographs at issue in Various Articles of Merchandise were not "posed
    in a way ``suggestive of moral looseness.' " Various Articles of
    
    Merchandise, 230 F.3d at 657
    .
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    Merchandise, 709 F.2d at 137
    (upholding trial court
    determination that the film Deep Thr oat was not patently
    offensive by the community standards of New York);
    Penthouse Int'l, Ltd. v. McAuliffe, 610 F .2d 1353, 1373 (5th
    Cir. 1980) (holding that the January 1978 issue of
    Penthouse, but not Playboy, was obscene). In American
    Booksellers Association, Inc. v. Hudnut, 771 F .2d 323 (7th
    Cir. 1985), the court examined a statute that specifically
    defined the term "pornography," noted the disjunction
    between what is "pornographic" and what is "obscene," and
    struck down, on First Amendment grounds, a pr ohibition
    on the former but not the latter. See 
    id. at 334.
    As is demonstrated by the foregoing discussion, although
    the scope of the term "obscenity" has been exhaustively
    examined (and even the term "indecency" has been given a
    specific definition by the FCC, see FCC v. Pacifica Found.,
    
    438 U.S. 726
    , 731-32 (1978)), the term "por nography,"
    unmoored from any particular statute, has never received a
    precise legal definition from the Supr eme Court or any
    other federal court of appeals, and remains undefined in
    the federal code.4 The Supr eme Court in Miller used only a
    footnoted dictionary reference for its own definition. See
    
    Miller, 413 U.S. at 19
    n.2 (defining por nography as "a
    description of prostitutes or prostitution" with a secondary
    meaning of "a depiction (as in writing or painting) of
    licentiousness or lewdness: a portrayal of er otic behavior
    designed to cause sexual excitement" (quoting Webster's
    Third New International Dictionary (1969)). Further, in the
    context of Loy's supervised release, in or der to comport
    with First Amendment standards, the prohibition on
    pornography must be narrowly tailor ed to serve the goals of
    advancing Loy's rehabilitation and protecting the public.
    See Part 
    II, supra
    .
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    4. Although federal law contains a definition of child pornography, see
    18 U.S.C. S 2256, the release condition imposed here cannot be
    presumed to track that statute, as the condition explicitly prohibits
    "legal adult pornography." Further , the condition does not limit its
    reach
    to visual works, as does federal law.
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    C. Discussion
    1. Pornography's Meaning
    The word pornography is derived fr om the Greek
    pornographos, which meant "writing of harlots." (Porne =
    harlot and graphos = writing). Accor ding to the Oxford
    English Dictionary (1986), pornography is defined as "1. . . .
    a description of prostitutes or of prostitution, as a matter of
    public hygiene. . . . 2. Description of the life, manners, etc.,
    of prostitutes and their patrons; hence, the expression or
    suggestion of obscene or unchaste subjects in literature or
    art; pornographic literature or art." According to Merriam-
    Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (1999), pornography is "1:
    the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictur es or writing)
    intended to cause sexual excitement 2: material (as books
    or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is
    intended to cause sexual excitement 3: the depiction of acts
    in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense
    emotional reaction." The Funk & W agnalls New Standard
    Dictionary of the English Language (1941) defines
    pornography as "1. Description of pr ostitutes and of
    prostitution as related to public hygiene. 2. The expression
    or suggestion of the obscene in speaking, writing, etc.;
    licentious art or literature." The W ebster's Third New
    International Dictionary definition was quoted in Part 
    III.B, supra
    .
    Though these various definitions are instructive in a
    general way, they clearly lack the greater pr ecision of the
    Miller test for obscenity. Unlike instances of obscenity, we
    could easily set forth numerous examples of books and
    films containing sexually explicit material that we could not
    absolutely say are (or are not) por nographic. One such
    example, as discussed below, might be Playboy , which
    features nudity but not sexual conduct. It is also difficult to
    gauge on which side of the line the film adaptations of
    Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita would fall, or if Edouard Manet's
    Le Dejeuner sur L'Herbe is pornographic (or even some of
    the Calvin Klein advertisements), and we certainly cannot
    know whether the pornography condition is r estricted only
    to visual materials, or whether it encompasses pur e text
    and sound recordings. In Farrell v. Burke, No. 97 CIV.
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    5708(DAB), available in 
    1998 WL 751695
    (S.D.N.Y. Oct. 28,
    1998), the district court described a situation in which a
    parole condition prohibiting "por nography" was interpreted
    by a parole officer to apply equally to Playboy and to
    photographs of Michelangelo's David. Similarly, the Court of
    Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, examining the scope of a
    statutory definition of pornography, observed that it could
    encompass everything "from hard-cor e films to W.B. Yeats's
    poem ``Leda and the Swan.' " American Booksellers Ass'n v.
    Hudnut, 
    771 F.2d 323
    , 327 (7th Cir . 1985). Although the
    propriety of affixing the title "por nography" to any of these
    items could foster debate, the debate would r emain
    undecided. Put differently, with r egard to "pornography"
    rather than "obscenity," we do not "know it when we see it."
    Additionally, as we observed in United States v. Crandon,
    
    173 F.3d 122
    , 128 (3d Cir.), cert. denied, 
    120 S. Ct. 138
    (1999), to avoid First Amendment infirmity, a probation
    condition must be "narrowly tailored" and "directly related"
    to the goals of protecting the public and pr omoting Loy's
    rehabilitation -- thus, the condition must not extend to all
    arguably pornographic materials, but only to those that fall
    into this subset. Even the government conceded in its
    supplemental brief that it does not know whether Playboy
    is part of this group, which is, in fact, a change from its
    position, taken during oral argument, that Playboy
    absolutely constituted "pornography." 5 Loy, then, can
    hardly be expected to be able to discer n, in advance, which
    materials are prohibited, with no mor e than the
    constitutional standard of permissible r estrictions to guide
    him. Cf. Laurence H. Tribe, American Constitutional Law
    (2d ed. 1988) S 12-29, at 1031 ("[T]he Constitution does
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    5. The government argues that a condition of supervised release is akin
    to a prison regulation, and thus, because por nography is routinely
    forbidden in prisons, such a restriction can be freely applied to Loy.
    This
    contention is patently without merit, as it flatly contradicts the Supreme
    Court's statement in Morrissey v. Brewer , 
    408 U.S. 471
    (1972), that
    "[t]he liberty of a parolee enables him to do a wide range of things open
    to persons who have never been convicted of any crime. . . . Though the
    state properly subjects him to many restrictions not applicable to other
    citizens, his condition is very differ ent from that of confinement in a
    prison." 
    Id. at 482.
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    not, in and of itself, provide a bright enough line to guide
    primary conduct, and . . . a law whose reach into protected
    spheres is limited only by the background assurance that
    unconstitutional applications will eventually be set aside is
    a law that will deter too much. . . .") (emphasis removed).6
    For all of these reasons, the pornography condition runs
    afoul of the due process values that the vagueness doctrine
    is meant to protect, and, to the extent that Loy is likely to
    avoid materials that are not "dir ectly related" to the goals of
    rehabilitation and deterrence, the condition threatens to
    chill protected conduct, as well.
    2. Effects of a Scienter Requir ement
    The government advances the intriguing ar gument that
    the condition could be interpreted so as to include a
    salvaging scienter requirement. But this cannot solve the
    problem. To begin with, although pr obation or parole will
    usually not be revoked for unknowing violations of
    conditions of release, unless a scienter r equirement is
    explicitly written into the condition (which is not the case
    here), there is no way to be certain that one will be applied
    during revocation proceedings. This is because release can
    be revoked for reasons that have nothing to do with the
    "fault" of the offender, but instead are more related to
    protection of the public. See, e.g., United States v. Warner,
    
    830 F.2d 651
    , 657 (7th Cir. 1987) ("If . . . probation's
    purposes have been frustrated, revocation is fair and
    appropriate even if the probationer did not willfully violate
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    6. In United States v. Schave, 186 F .3d 839 (7th Cir. 1999), the Seventh
    Circuit avoided a vagueness problem in a condition of supervised release
    that prohibited associations with white supr emacists by construing it to
    encompass only those associations that "r easonably relate[d]" to the
    dangers against which the condition was intended to protect. 
    Id. at 844.
    However appropriate such a measure may have been under the
    circumstances of that case, a similar construction would not save the
    condition here. The condition in Schave was not only more particular
    than Loy's (it prohibited associations with certain well-defined groups),
    but also was part of a long history of "associational" conditions that are
    so common that they have acquired something of a judicial gloss as to
    their scope. See Part IV, infra .
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    his probation conditions."); United States v. McLeod, 
    608 F.2d 1076
    , 1078 (5th Cir. 1979) (per curiam) ("A good faith
    attempt to comply with a probation agreement is not a
    controlling factor, but only one of many factors that a
    District Court may consider in the exercise of its discretion
    to revoke probation.").
    Even if a scienter requirement wer e to be read into the
    condition, however, this construction would not save it.
    Though in some situations, a scienter requir ement may
    mitigate an otherwise vague statute, see, e.g ., Hoffman
    Estates v. Flipside, Hoffman Estates, Inc. , 
    455 U.S. 489
    ,
    499 (1982); Colautti v. Franklin, 
    439 U.S. 379
    , 395 (1978),
    such a requirement will not cure all defects for all
    purposes, see, e.g., Cramp v. Boar d of Pub. Instruction of
    Orange County, 
    368 U.S. 278
    , 286 (1961) (invalidating a
    loyalty oath on the ground that, notwithstanding the fact
    that the oath-taker was required only to affirm that he or
    she had never "knowingly" counseled or supported
    Communists, the oath was too vague to be reasonably
    understood); Planned Parenthood of Cent. N.J. v. Farmer,
    
    220 F.3d 127
    , 138 (3d Cir. 2000) (holding that a scienter
    requirement cannot save a statute criminalizing "partial-
    birth abortion" where the definition of such a procedure is,
    in itself, vague); Nova Records, Inc. v. Sendak, 
    706 F.2d 782
    , 789 (7th Cir. 1983) ("A scienter r equirement cannot
    eliminate vagueness . . . if it is satisfied by an``intent' to do
    something that is in itself ambiguous."). Indeed, a contrary
    rule would rob the vagueness doctrine of all of its meaning,
    for legislatures would simply repair otherwise vague
    statutes by inserting the word "knowingly." See Richmond
    Med. Ctr. for Women v. Gilmor e, 
    55 F. Supp. 2d 441
    , 498
    (E.D. Va. 1999), aff 'd on other gr ounds, 
    224 F.3d 337
    (4th
    Cir. 2000).
    3. Delegation of Power to the Probation Officer
    The government suggests that the term"pornography" is
    cabined by the fact that Loy could check with his pr obation
    officer to gauge its applicability to a particular case.
    However, although there is no question that "[i]n addition to
    the bare words of the probation condition, the probationer
    may be guided by further . . . instructions . . . of the . . .
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    probation officer," United States v. Romero, 
    676 F.2d 406
    ,
    407 (9th Cir. 1982), the sentencing court may not
    wholesaledly "abdicate[ ] its judicial r esponsibility" for
    setting the conditions of release, United States v.
    Mohammad, 
    53 F.3d 1426
    , 1438 (7th Cir . 1995)
    (invalidating an order of restitution wher e the sentencing
    court allowed the probation officer to dictate the manner of
    payment). A condition with no core meaning beyond
    "whatever is necessary for Loy's rehabilitation" cannot be
    cured by allowing the probation officer an unfettered power
    of interpretation, as this would create one of the very
    problems against which the vagueness doctrine is meant to
    protect, i.e., the delegation of "basic policy matters to
    policemen . . . for resolution on an ad hoc and subjective
    basis." Grayned v. City of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 109
    (1972); see LoFranco v. United States Par ole Comm'n, 986 F.
    Supp. 796, 810 (S.D.N.Y. 1997) (holding a par ole condition
    to be unconstitutionally vague because the pr ohibition on
    association with "outlaw motorcycle gangs" delegated
    policymaking power to the parole officer); cf. United States
    v. Kent, 
    209 F.3d 1073
    , 1079 (8th Cir . 2000) (invalidating
    a condition requiring probation officer to determine whether
    the defendant should undergo counseling). 7 Though it is
    true that "[c]ondemned to the use of wor ds, we can never
    expect mathematical certainty from our language,"
    
    Grayned, 408 U.S. at 110
    , without a more definitive
    standard to guide the probation officer's discretion, there is
    a real danger that the prohibition on por nography may
    ultimately translate to a prohibition on whatever the officer
    personally finds titillating. Cf. Coates v. City of Cincinnati,
    
    402 U.S. 611
    , 614 (1971) (striking down a statute
    punishing assemblages of persons who conducted
    themselves in an "annoying" manner, on the ground that
    though a city may forbid certain forms of antisocial
    conduct, "[i]t cannot constitutionally do so through . . . an
    ordinance whose violation may entirely depend upon
    whether or not a policeman is annoyed").
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    7. A similar condition was imposed in this case; however, Loy has not
    raised any challenges to it, and so we need not addr ess the question
    whether this court would follow the Eighth Cir cuit reasoning regarding
    the propriety of conditions that allow the pr obation officer to determine
    whether a defendant is in need of counseling.
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    4. Conclusion
    To be sure, we are dealing her e with an unusually broad
    condition. We in no way mean to imply that courts may not
    impose restrictions on the consumption of sexually explicit
    materials by persons convicted of sex crimes. Indeed, we do
    not expect that our holding today will greatly diminish a
    district court's discretion in imposing such conditions for
    the simple reason that almost any r estriction upon sexually
    explicit material may well aid in rehabilitation and
    protection of the public. Only in the exceptional case, where
    a ban could apply to any art form that employs nudity, will
    a defendant's exercise of First Amendment rights be
    unconstitutionally circumscribed or chilled. A probationary
    condition is not "narrowly tailored" if it restricts First
    Amendment freedoms without any resulting benefit to
    public safety. Here, the condition could extend not only to
    Playboy magazine, but also to medical textbooks.
    Restricting this entire range of material is simply
    unnecessary to protect the public, and for this reason the
    condition is not "narrowly tailored."
    Thus, in Loy's case, to the extent that the condition
    might apply to a wide swath of work ranging fr om serious
    art to ubiquitous advertising, the condition is overly broad
    and violates the First Amendment. To the extent that its
    breadth is unclear, it is unconstitutionally vague. That said,
    there is no question that the District Court could, perfectly
    consonant with the Constitution, restrict Loy's access to
    sexually oriented materials, so long as that r estriction was
    set forth with sufficient clarity and with a nexus to the
    goals of supervised release. Further, the Constitution would
    not forbid a more tightly defined restriction on legal, adult
    pornography, perhaps one that clarified whether it extended
    non-visual materials, or that borrowed applicable language
    from the federal statutory definition of child pornography
    located at 18 U.S.C. S 2256(8).8
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    8. The federal statute reads:
    "child pornography" means any visual depiction, including any
    photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated
    image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic,
    mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where--
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    In sum, with no guidepost for Loy, the pornography
    prohibition as currently written violates due process by
    failing to provide Loy with adequate notice of what he may
    and may not do, chilling his First Amendment rights in the
    process. The condition "forbids . . . an act in terms so
    vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily
    guess at its meaning and differ as to its application."
    Connally v. General Constr. Co., 
    269 U.S. 385
    , 391 (1926).
    IV. The Challenge to the Prohibition on
    Unsupervised Contact with Minors
    Conditions of supervised release must be "r easonably
    related" to the goals of deterrence, pr otection of the public,
    and rehabilitation of the defendant. 18 U.S.C.S 3583(d)(1).
    They must also "involve[ ] no gr eater deprivation of liberty
    than is reasonably necessary" to meet these goals, 18
    U.S.C. S 3583(d)(2), and, as stated above, supervised release
    conditions that affect constitutional rights will likely be
    valid if "narrowly tailored and . . . directly related to
    deterring [the offender] and protecting the public." United
    States v. Crandon, 
    173 F.3d 122
    , 128 (3d Cir.), cert. denied,
    
    120 S. Ct. 138
    (1999); see also United States v. Tolla, 
    781 F.2d 29
    , 34 (2d Cir. 1986) ("[C]onditions that restrict a
    probationer's freedom must be especiallyfine-tuned.").
    Loy claims that there is insufficient evidence in the
    record to support the condition barring him from having
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    (A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a
    minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
    (B) such visual depiction is, or appears to be, of a minor
    engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
    (C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified
    to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually
    explicit conduct; or
    (D) such visual depiction is advertised, pr omoted, presented,
    described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the
    impression that the material is or contains a visual depiction
    of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct[.]
    18 U.S.C. S 2256(8).
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    any unsupervised contact with minors. He further contends
    that the condition is "not ``reasonably r elated' to the
    statutory goals because no evidence was presented that [he]
    ever molested a child." Finally, Loy argues that the
    condition, coupled with the requirement that the
    "supervision" come from someone other than his wife,
    functionally prevents him from bearing and raising children
    of his own, in violation of his fundamental rights to
    procreate and to maintain the integrity of his family.
    The District Court's findings in support of the condition
    that Loy have no unsupervised contact with minors r ead as
    follows:
    The Court finds it appropriate to pr ohibit defendant
    from all unsupervised contact with minors while on
    supervised release. Although defendant was convicted
    of possession of child pornography and not of the
    production of such pornography, the evidence
    presented to this Court prior to sentencing
    demonstrates that the defendant has not only a
    significant knowledge of and interest in child
    pornographic materials, but also that the defendant
    himself has been involved in making videos of young
    girls. Specifically, defendant described to Special Agent
    Guzy how he had produced videos by hiding a
    camcorder in a bag and filming up the skirts of girls
    high school age and younger as they rode escalators at
    a mall, as well as how he has "hidden" camera
    videotapes that he made by videotaping through
    windows. Regardless of whether or not these videos
    constitute pornography, it is clear to this Court that
    the defendant, given his interest in child por nography
    and his efforts to make sexually explicit materials
    involving children, poses a danger to childr en if left
    alone with them.
    Accordingly, the Court finds it appr opriate to   prohibit
    defendant from having unsupervised contact with
    minors. The Court does not mean by imposition of   this
    condition to require that defendant's pr obation   officer
    or another law enforcement official be pr esent
    whenever defendant is around minors. However ,
    defendant is not to be alone with minors, nor is   he to
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    be alone with his wife and any minors. In other wor ds,
    an adult other than defendant's wife must be pr esent
    when defendant is in the presence of a minor . This
    condition of supervised release serves to: (1) protect
    minors who may come in contact with defendant in
    that defendant is not likely to attempt to make sexually
    explicit depictions of them if another adult is pr esent;
    and (2) deter defendant from engaging in criminal
    conduct, also because defendant is not likely to
    attempt to make sexually explicit depictions of children
    if another adult is present.
    In a footnote, the court explained that "[e]vidence presented
    to this Court prior to defendant's sentencing indicated that
    defendant's wife also has an interest in child pornography."
    Loy argues that the District Court's findings with respect
    to this condition are not supported by the r ecord. We
    disagree. As the court noted, Loy twice admitted to an
    undercover agent that he secretly filmed up young girls'
    dresses on escalators at the local mall by placing a bag
    containing a hidden video camera at their feet. It may also
    be true that, at the subsequent hearing on his motion to
    suppress, Loy claimed to have fabricated the story. But it is
    not true, as Loy argues, that because the evidence on this
    point is contradictory, the record does not support the
    District Court's finding.
    The contradiction is of Loy's own creation. The District
    Court was free to conclude that the self-serving statements
    Loy made before the court were less cr edible than
    statements he made to third parties who he believed shared
    his interests in child pornography. Ther efore, the record
    contained sufficient evidence to support the court's finding
    that Loy had personally made videotapes exploiting minors.
    Loy next argues that even if there is sufficient evidence
    that he had secretly filmed up young girls' dresses on mall
    escalators, "that conduct would not be addr essed by the
    condition, because the conduct would not have taken place
    when Mr. Loy was alone with minors." The argument is
    wholly without merit. The fact that Loy was willing to
    exploit minors in public places fully supports a condition
    barring him from being alone with them in private.
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    Loy further contends that the condition is vague in that
    it might conceivably apply to casual or unavoidable contact
    with minors in public places. This argument is one that has
    a long and familiar history in the courts; associational
    conditions placed upon parolees and probationers are
    commonplace and have frequently been challenged as
    overly broad or vague because they potentially extend to
    casual encounters. See 1 Neil P. Cohen, The Law of
    Probation and Parole S 9.11, at 9-19 (2d ed. 1999). At this
    point, it is well established that associational conditions do
    not extend to casual or chance meetings. See, e.g.,
    Arciniega v. Freeman, 
    404 U.S. 4
    , 4 (1971) (per curiam)
    (interpreting an associational condition to exclude certain
    casual encounters); Birzon v. King, 469 F .2d 1241, 1243
    (2d Cir. 1972) (same); Cohen, supra,S 9.11, at 9-19
    (observing that associational conditions are fr equently
    challenged, but that courts routinely uphold them and
    interpret them not to apply to chance meetings). We also so
    interpret them. Certainly accidental or unavoidable contact
    with minors in public places is not forbidden by the
    condition; however, should Loy deliberately seek out such
    contacts, they would cease to be "casual" or"unavoidable"
    and would fall within the condition's scope. Thus, in
    accordance with the long line of similar cases, we believe
    that the condition restricting Loy's contact with minors is
    not unconstitutionally vague.
    Loy also submits that the record does not support the
    District Court's finding that his wife is also interested in
    child pornography. Consequently, he ar gues, the court
    erroneously structured the condition to pr ohibit him from
    having otherwise unsupervised contact with minor children
    even if his wife is present. The court explained its order
    that Loy must be chaperoned by someone other than his
    wife when in the presence of minors as justified by the fact
    that "[e]vidence presented to this Court prior to defendant's
    sentencing indicated that defendant's wife also has an
    interest in child pornography." This led the court to require
    that "an adult other than defendant's wife must be present
    when defendant is in the presence of a minor ." Although
    the evidence on which the court based its decision is fairly
    tenuous for such a severe restriction, especially considering
    its impact on a third party who has not been charged with
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    any crime, given our deference to the District Court in
    factual matters, it is sufficient.9
    Loy's final challenge to the condition is that, although he
    does not currently have children, the condition could
    potentially extend to any children he and his wife may
    subsequently have once he is released fr om prison. If so,
    the condition might deter him from exer cising his
    constitutional right to procreation, see Skinner v.
    Oklahoma, 
    316 U.S. 535
    , 541 (1942), and, should he have
    children to whom the condition applies, it would interfere
    with his fundamental right to familial integrity, see Gruenke
    v. Seip, 
    225 F.3d 290
    , 303 (3d Cir . 2000).
    It is well established that, although parents have a
    fundamental right to raise their children, this right can be
    overridden by the state's "compelling inter est" in ensuring
    children's safety. See Croft v. W estmoreland County Children
    & Youth Servs., 
    103 F.3d 1123
    , 1125 (3d Cir. 1997). Thus,
    convicted pedophiles may, quite legitimately, lose custody of
    their children or have restrictions placed on their parental
    rights. However, where there is insufficient evidence to
    support a finding that children are potentially in danger
    from their parents, the state's inter est cannot be said to be
    "compelling," and thus interference in the family
    relationship is unconstitutional. See 
    id. at 1126.
    Loy, after approximately nine years of marriage, is
    childless; his term of supervised release will last only three
    years. At most, any children he might have upon his
    release would be two years old by the time the term ended.
    There is certainly a legitimate question as to whether the
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    9. The only evidence that Loy's wife is inter ested in child pornography
    is
    that, in his reply to the fake advertisement run by the police, Loy
    responded as "Ray and Maria" and used the word "we" to describe the
    interest in child pornography. However , the transcription of his
    telephone call with the government agent suggests that Ray did not let
    his wife know about his proclivities: "Umm, you know she really don't
    know too much about the very young stuff I got. I mean you know she
    kinda likes the, the couples and solo girls and stuf f. . . . But, like I
    said,
    I kinda keep the actual really young stuf f from her because I don't know
    how she'd handle that. I don't know if she'd fr eak out or not. . . . I
    keep
    that definitely hidden."
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    record would support a finding that Loy represents a threat
    to an infant child of his own. But it is unnecessary to
    decide this question, because we believe it unlikely that the
    District Court intended its condition to extend so far. Given
    the severe intrusion on Loy's family life that would
    otherwise result, we believe that, absent a clearer sign from
    the District Court, the condition should be construed to
    apply only to other people's children, and not to Loy's own.
    If, at some later date, the District Court should come to
    believe that it is necessary for the protection of the public
    or for Loy's rehabilitation to extend the condition to Loy's
    own children, it may consider modifications to the condition
    in accordance with 18 U.S.C. S 3583(e); the
    constitutionality of the restriction can likewise be reviewed
    at that time. We therefore r eject the government's
    suggestion that the condition receive a br oad construction
    now, placing the burden on Loy to petition for a
    modification should he and his wife have childr en before
    the term of supervised release ends.
    V. Conclusion
    For the foregoing reasons, we will affir m the condition
    restricting Loy's contact with minors, but will vacate the
    condition prohibiting Loy from possessing pornography,
    and remand to the District Court for further pr oceedings
    consistent with this opinion.
    A True Copy:
    Teste:
    Clerk of the United States Court of Appeals
    for the Third Circuit
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