United States v. Valentine ( 2000 )


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    Filed November 2, 2000
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    No. 00-1425
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Appellant
    v.
    LARRY VALENTINE, a/k/a HASSAN DELOA TCH,
    a/k/a HASSAN DELOACH, a/k/a SHAWN VALENTINE
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of New Jersey
    (D.C. Civil No. 99-cr-00345-1)
    District Judge: Honorable Katharine S. Hayden
    Argued October 6, 2000
    Before: NYGAARD, GREENBERG and COWEN,
    Circuit Judges
    (Filed: November 2, 2000)
    George S. Leone, Esq.
    Michael F. Buchanan, Esq. (Argued)
    Office of the United States Attorney
    970 Broad Street, Rm. 700
    Newark, NJ 07102
    Counsel for Appellant
    Kevin F. Carlucci, Esq. (Argued)
    Office of the Federal Public Defender
    972 Broad Street
    Newark, NJ 07102
    Counsel for Appellee
    OPINION OF THE COURT
    COWEN, Circuit Judge:
    After receiving a tip from an infor mant, two officers
    stopped Larry Valentine on a city str eet late at night and
    discovered a gun. The gun was subsequently suppressed,
    however, when the government pr osecuted Valentine for
    being a felon in possession of a firear m in violation of 18
    U.S.C. S 922(g)(1) and (2).
    In suppressing the gun, the District Court r easoned that
    under Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 
    120 S. Ct. 1375
    (2000)
    the informant's tip about Valentine and the surrounding
    circumstances did not provide reasonable suspicion that
    Valentine was engaged in crime. The District Court also
    concluded that Valentine's actions after the officers ordered
    him to stop should not be considered, notwithstanding the
    Supreme Court's analysis of seizures under the Fourth
    Amendment in California v. Hodari D., 
    499 U.S. 621
    , 
    111 S. Ct. 1547
    (1991).
    We will reverse. We hold that the officers had reasonable
    suspicion before ordering Valentine to stop. This case is
    distinguishable from J.L. and our r ecent decision in United
    States v. Ubiles, 
    224 F.3d 213
    (3d Cir . 2000). We also
    conclude that the District Court erred in interpreting
    Hodari D. Valentine's acts after the officers ordered him to
    stop should have been considered.
    I
    Around 1:00 a.m. on May 8, 1999, Officers W oodard   and
    Contreras were patrolling near the intersection of   Columbia
    and 18th Avenues in Irvington, New Jersey, an area   that
    the officers described in uncontradicted testimony   as "very
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    bad" with "[a] lot of shootings." App. at 63. As the officers
    approached the intersection, a young black man in his
    early twenties flagged them down and explained that he
    had just seen a man with a gun.
    The informant said that the gunman was wearing a blue
    sweat top, blue pants, and a gold chain around his neck.
    He added that the suspect was dark skinned, had a beard,
    and was accompanied by a young man. When asked to
    identify himself, the informant refused, a response that
    Officer Woodard testified is common, and one that is
    understandable if the informant feared r etribution from the
    armed man or entanglement with the police. The officers
    did not question the informant further and immediately
    went in search of the gunman.
    About 50 to 100 feet north of the intersection wher e the
    officers had met the informant, Woodard and Contreras saw
    three men standing in a well-lit parking lot near a chicken
    restaurant. One of the men matched the infor mant's
    description of the armed suspect given moments ago, and
    another was a young male in his twenties, also as the
    informant described. The third was an older man who
    appeared to be in his sixties.
    The officers, who were in uniform and in a marked car,
    stopped and stepped out of their vehicle. The thr ee men in
    the parking lot reacted by walking away, northwards.
    Contreras ordered the young male with Valentine to stop,
    and he obeyed, putting his hands up and walking toward
    the squad car. But when Woodar d told Valentine, who was
    about ten feet away, to come over and place his hands on
    the car, Valentine responded,"Who, me?" and charged
    southwards toward Woodard. As Valentine ran, trying to
    push aside Woodard's outstretched arms, the officer
    grabbed his shirt and wrestled him to the gr ound. During
    the scuffle, Woodard heard a ting as Valentine's silver, fully-
    loaded handgun hit the ground. Neither officer had seen the
    gun before that moment.
    We have jurisdiction under 18 U.S.C. S   3731, and
    conduct plenary review of the District   Court's determination
    of whether the officers had reasonable   suspicion to stop
    and frisk Valentine. Ornelas v. United   States, 
    517 U.S. 690
    ,
    3
    
    116 S. Ct. 1657
    (1996); United States v. Riddick , 
    156 F.3d 505
    , 509 (3d Cir. 1998).
    II
    Under Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 
    88 S. Ct. 1868
    (1968)
    and subsequent cases, "an officer may, consistent with the
    Fourth Amendment, conduct a brief, investigatory stop
    when the officer has a reasonable, articulable suspicion
    that criminal activity is afoot." Illinois v. Wardlaw, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , ___, 
    120 S. Ct. 673
    , 675 (2000). Reasonable suspicion
    is "a less demanding standard than pr obable cause and
    requires a showing considerably less than preponderance of
    the evidence." 528 U.S. at ___, 120 S.Ct. at 675-76.
    Elaborating on this point, the Supreme Court has said,
    "Reasonable suspicion is a less demanding standar d than
    probable cause not only in the sense that r easonable
    suspicion can be established with information that is
    different in quantity or content than that required to
    establish probable cause, but also in the sense that
    reasonable suspicion can arise from infor mation that is less
    reliable than that required to show probable cause."
    Alabama v. White, 
    496 U.S. 325
    , 330, 
    110 S. Ct. 2412
    , 2416
    (1990). The question we must address is whether Officers
    Woodard and Contreras had the "minimal level of objective
    justification" necessary for a Terry stop. United States v.
    Sokolow, 
    490 U.S. 1
    , 7, 
    109 S. Ct. 1581
    , 1585 (1989). And
    in evaluating reasonable suspicion, "we must consider ``the
    totality of the circumstances--the whole picture.' " 
    Sokolow, 490 U.S. at 8
    , 109 S.Ct. at 1585 (quoting United States v.
    Cortez, 
    499 U.S. 411
    , 417, 
    101 S. Ct. 690
    , 696 (1981)).
    We begin our analysis with the Supreme Court's recent
    opinion, J.L., the case that prompted the District Court to
    reconsider its initial denial of Valentine's suppression
    motion. In J.L. the Supreme Court held that police officers
    lacked reasonable suspicion to make a T erry stop when an
    anonymous caller reported that "a young black male
    standing at a particular bus stop and wearing a plaid shirt
    was carrying a gun." Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. at ___, 120
    S.Ct. at 1377. The Supreme Court explained that the
    precise issue before the Court was "whether the tip pointing
    to J.L. had [sufficient] indicia of r eliability." 529 U.S. at ___,
    
    4 120 S. Ct. at 1378
    . Finding the tip unreliable, the Court did
    not consider under what circumstances a r eliable tip that
    someone was carrying a gun would provide the police with
    reasonable suspicion. Instead, the Court concluded, "All the
    police had to go on in this case was the bar e report of an
    unknown, unaccountable informant who neither explained
    how he knew about the gun nor supplied any basis for
    believing he had inside information about J.L." 529 U.S. at
    ___, 120 S.Ct. at 1379.
    Discussing the reliability of anonymous tips, the Court
    explained, "Unlike a tip from a known infor mant whose
    reputation can be assessed and who can be held
    responsible if her allegations turn out to be fabricated, see
    Adams v. Williams, 
    407 U.S. 143
    , 146-147, 
    92 S. Ct. 1921
    ,
    1923-24 (1972), ``an anonymous tip alone seldom
    demonstrates the informant's basis of knowledge or
    veracity.' " J.L., 529 U.S. at ___, 120 S.Ct. at 1378 (quoting
    Alabama v. 
    White, 496 U.S. at 329
    , 110 S.Ct. at 2415).
    Nevertheless, even in the context of probable cause, the
    Court has rejected its earlier, inflexible two-prong test for
    tips set forth in Aguilar v. Texas, 
    378 U.S. 108
    , 
    84 S. Ct. 1509
    (1964) and Spinelli v. United States, 
    393 U.S. 410
    , 
    89 S. Ct. 584
    (1969). Under Aguilar and Spinelli, the
    government could not rely on a tip unless the government
    could demonstrate both the basis of the infor mant's
    knowledge and the informant's reliability or veracity. The
    Court now uses a flexible standard that assesses the
    relative value and reliability of an infor mant's tip in light of
    the totality of the circumstances. See, e.g., Illinois v. Gates,
    
    462 U.S. 213
    , 230-35, 
    103 S. Ct. 2317
    , 2328-30 (1983);
    Alabama v. 
    White, 496 U.S. at 329
    , 110 S.Ct. at 2415.
    The informant's tip in our case is dif ferent from the
    telephone call in J.L. First, unlike J.L., the officers in our
    case knew that the informant was reporting what he had
    observed moments ago, not what he learned fr om stale or
    second-hand sources. At the suppression hearing, Officer
    Woodard was asked, "Did [the infor mant] say how long ago
    that he saw the individual carrying a gun?" W oodard
    replied, "About--maybe a second ago, two seconds ago."
    App. at 68. So the officers could expect that the informant
    had a reasonable basis for his beliefs. The Supreme Court
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    has recognized the greater weight carried by a witness's
    recent report, such as when "the victim of a street crime
    seeks immediate police aid and gives a description of the
    assailant." Adams v. 
    Williams, 407 U.S. at 147
    , 92 S.Ct. at
    1924.
    Second, the officers had more reason to believe that the
    informant was credible than the officers did in J.L., for a tip
    given face to face is more reliable than an anonymous
    telephone call. As the Fourth Circuit r ecently explained,
    when an informant relates information to the police face to
    face, the officer has an opportunity to assess the
    informant's credibility and demeanor . United States v.
    Christmas, 
    222 F.3d 141
    , 144 (4th Cir . 2000). And when an
    informant gives the police information about a neighbor (as
    in Christmas) or someone nearby (as in our case), the
    informant is exposed to a risk of retaliation from the person
    named, making it less likely that the informant will lie. 
    Id. Similarly, as
    the Fourth Circuit noted, "citizens who
    personally report crimes to the police ther eby make
    themselves accountable for lodging false complaints." 
    Id. (citing Illinois
    v. 
    Gates, 462 U.S. at 233-34
    , 103 S.Ct. at
    2329-30 (1983); Adams v. 
    Williams, 407 U.S. at 146-47
    , 92
    S.Ct. at 1923).
    Many cases have recognized the differ ence between in-
    person informants and anonymous telephone calls. See,
    e.g., Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. at ___, 120 S.Ct. at 1381
    (Kennedy, J., concurring) ("If an informant places his
    anonymity at risk, a court can consider this factor in
    weighing the reliability of the tip. An instance where a tip
    might be considered anonymous but nevertheless
    sufficiently reliable to justify a pr oportionate police
    response may be when an unnamed person driving a car
    the police officer later describes stops for a moment and,
    face to face, informs the police that criminal activity is
    occurring."); Davis v. United States, No. 97-CF-1882, 
    2000 WL 1358490
    (D.C. Sept. 21 2000) (An officer had pr obable
    cause for a search after an informant who declined to give
    his name flagged down the officer and told him that a man
    nearby in a wheelchair was selling crack out of his right
    shoe.); United States v. Salazar, 945 F .2d 47, 50-51 (2d Cir.
    1991) ("[A] face-to-face informant must, as a general
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    matter, be thought more reliable than an anonymous
    telephone tipster, for the former runs the greater risk that
    he may be held accountable if his information proves
    false."); United States v. Sierra-Her nandez, 
    581 F.2d 760
    ,
    763 (9th Cir. 1978) ("[A]lthough the informant did not
    identify himself by name, he would have been available for
    further questioning if the agent had judged the pr ocedure
    appropriate. Unlike a person who makes an anonymous
    telephone call, this informant confronted the agent
    directly."); United States v. Gorin, 
    564 F.2d 159
    , 161 (4th
    Cir. 1977) (per curiam) ("[S]tandar ds of reliability should
    not prevent appropriate action when a victim of a crime
    immediately has contacted the police. That same analysis
    applies [when a witness informs the police in person about
    a crime].").
    Valentine contends that the District Court made a finding
    that the informant left the area after giving the officers the
    tip, and therefore this informant could not have been easily
    held accountable. He also complains that the officers could
    have questioned the informant further. In response to the
    latter objection, we are not going to second-guess the
    officers' decision to pursue the suspect immediately. The
    officers knew the suspect was still in the vicinity, and had
    they stalled for more lengthy questioning of the informant,
    the armed suspect could have escaped detection.
    In response to the former objection, we have reviewed the
    record carefully and conclude that the District Court made
    no factual finding about what the informant did. Indeed,
    because no evidence was presented either way on the issue,
    any factual finding that the informant did leave the area
    would have been clearly erroneous. We simply do not know
    what the informant did after the officers left.
    What matters for our purposes is not that the officers
    could guarantee that they could track down the infor mant
    again. As the Supreme Court has said in cases like Gates,
    the question is whether the tip should be deemed
    sufficiently trustworthy in light of the total cir cumstances.
    And in this case the circumstances support the reliability of
    the tip: the informant was exposed to r etaliation from
    Valentine and knew that the officers could quickly confirm
    or disconfirm the tip; and the officers could assess the
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    informant's credibility as he spoke, knew what the
    informant looked like, and had some opportunity to find
    the informant if the tip did not pan out. Fr om the fact that
    the officers acted, and acted quickly, after r eceiving the tip,
    a court may deduce that the officers thought the tipster's
    demeanor, voice, and perhaps a host of other factors
    supported the reliability of the tip. Cf. 
    Ornelas, 517 U.S. at 699
    , 116 S.Ct. at 1663 ("[A] police officer views the facts
    through the lens of his police experience and expertise. The
    background facts provide a context for the historical facts,
    and when seen together yield inferences that deserve
    deference.").
    The reliability of a tip, of course, is not all that we must
    consider in evaluating reasonable suspicion; the content of
    the tip must also be taken into account, as well as other
    surrounding circumstances. If we focus on the content of
    the tip, Valentine can invoke our recent holding that, in
    some contexts, even if police officers have a r eliable tip
    saying that someone is carrying a gun, that infor mation
    alone will not provide enough evidence to support a Terry
    stop. See United States v. Ubiles, 224 F .3d 213 (3d Cir.
    2000).
    In Ubiles several officers were overseeing a festival in the
    Virgin Islands when an elderly man appr oached them and
    pointed out a man he had seen in the crowd with a gun.
    We suppressed the gun recover ed from the officers' frisk of
    the suspect, and explained, "For all the officers knew, even
    assuming the reliability of the tip that Ubiles possessed a
    gun, Ubiles was another celebrant lawfully exer cising his
    right under Virgin Island law to possess a gun in public."
    
    Id. at 218.
    We also acknowledged, however, that r easonable
    suspicion does not require that the suspect's acts must
    always be themselves criminal. In many cases the Supreme
    Court has found reasonable suspicion based on acts
    capable of innocent explanation. Most recently, in Wardlaw
    the Court held that headlong flight from the police in a
    high-crime area provides reasonable suspicion, despite the
    fact that flight is not by itself illegal and could have
    completely lawful and rational explanations. The Court
    explained:
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    Even in Terry, the conduct justifying the stop was
    ambiguous and susceptible of an innocent explanation.
    The officer observed two individuals pacing back and
    forth in front of a store, peering into the window and
    periodically conferring. 
    Terry, 392 U.S., at 5-6
    , 
    88 S. Ct. 1868
    . All of this conduct was by itself lawful, but it
    also suggested that the individuals were casing the
    store for a planned robbery. T erry recognized that the
    officers could detain the individuals to r esolve the
    ambiguity. 
    Id., at 30,
    88 S. Ct. 1868
    .
    Wardlaw, 528 U.S. at ___, 120 S.Ct. at 677.
    Despite the obvious danger posed by an armed man in a
    crowd, we concluded in Ubiles that the tip, standing alone,
    did not provide reasonable suspicion because nothing in
    "the defendant's behavior pointed to the pr esence of illegal
    
    activity." 224 F.3d at 217
    . In particular , we said that under
    the laws of the Virgin Islands, a citizen could lawfully
    possess a gun during a festival, and there was no reason to
    think Ubiles's gun was unregistered or had an altered serial
    number, the two ways we mentioned that the gun
    possession could have been illegal.
    Our case is distinguishable from Ubiles. First, there is
    the broader context. Valentine was walking around at 1:00
    a.m. in a high-crime area known for shootings. While an
    individual's presence in a high-crime ar ea is not by itself
    sufficient to warrant a Terry stop, Wardlaw, 528 U.S. at
    ___, 120 S.Ct. at 676 (citing Brown v. Texas, 
    443 U.S. 47
    ,
    
    99 S. Ct. 2637
    (1979)), "the fact that the stop occurred in a
    ``high crime area' [is] among the r elevant contextual
    considerations in a Terry analysis." 
    Id. (citing Adams
    v.
    
    Williams, 407 U.S. at 144
    and 
    147-48, 92 S. Ct. at 1922
    and 1924). The constellation of likely criminal acts in a
    high-crime area at 1:00 a.m. goes well beyond simply
    carrying a gun without registration or with altered serial
    numbers. Indeed, given the large number of potential
    crimes and the danger posed by an armed criminal, we
    think that if the police officers had done nothing and
    continued on their way after receiving the informant's tip,
    the officers would have been remiss. People who live in
    communities torn by gunfire and violence are entitled to be
    free from fear of victimization and have police investigate
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    before shootings occur. As the Supr eme Court said in
    Wardlaw, when the police lear n of potentially suspicious
    conduct, officers can stop and question the suspects to
    resolve ambiguity about the suspects' conduct.
    Moreover, it is well established that officers are allowed to
    ask questions of anyone--and gun owners ar e no exception
    --without having any evidence creating suspicion. Florida v.
    Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 434, 
    111 S. Ct. 2382
    , 2386 (1991)
    ("Since Terry we have held r epeatedly that mere police
    questioning does not constitute a seizure."). Given that the
    original rationale in Terry for per mitting frisks was to
    safeguard officers while they ask questions, see 
    Terry, 392 U.S. at 23-24
    , 88 S.Ct. at 1881, a ruling in V alentine's
    favor would produce inexplicable results. We would be
    holding that while diligent officers would have questioned
    Valentine after receiving the tip, the officers were not
    permitted to frisk him, even though they encountered him
    late at night in a high-crime area known for shootings, and
    even though, unlike Terry, the officers had specific, reliable
    reasons for believing that he was armed. We do not think
    the Supreme Court's jurisprudence supports such a result.
    As the Supreme Court noted in a case much like ours, an
    officer has "ample reason to fear for his safety" while
    investigating a person reported to have a concealed weapon
    at 2:15 in the morning in a high-crime ar ea. Adams v.
    
    Williams, 407 U.S. at 147
    -48, 92 S.Ct. at 1924. See also
    
    Terry, 392 U.S. at 23-24
    , 88 S.Ct. at 1881 ("[E]very year in
    this country many law enforcement officers ar e killed in the
    line of duty, and thousands more are wounded. Virtually all
    of these deaths and a substantial portion of the injuries are
    inflicted with guns and knives.").
    In evaluating the totality of the circumstances, we must
    also take into account that Valentine and the two men with
    him immediately began walking away from the patrol car
    when it arrived. Walking away from the police hardly
    amounts to the headlong flight considered in Wardlaw and
    of course would not give rise to reasonable suspicion by
    itself, even in a high-crime area, but it is a factor that can
    be considered in the totality of the cir cumstances. As the
    Supreme Court recently said, "nervous, evasive behavior is
    a pertinent factor in determining reasonable suspicion."
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    Wardlaw, 528 U.S. at ___, 120 S.Ct. at 676. See also United
    States v. 
    Sokolow, 490 U.S. at 8
    -9, 109 S.Ct. at 1585-86;
    United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 
    422 U.S. 873
    , 885, 
    95 S. Ct. 2574
    (1975); Florida v. Rodriguez, 
    469 U.S. 1
    , 6, 
    105 S. Ct. 308
    , 311 (1984) (per curiam). As the First Cir cuit recently
    stated in the context of a search of a taxi,"slouching,
    crouching, or any other arguably evasive movement, when
    combined with other factors particular to the defendant or
    his vehicle, can add up to reasonable suspicion." United
    States v. Woodrum, 
    202 F.3d 1
    , 7 (1st Cir. 2000) (citing
    United States v. Sharpe, 
    470 U.S. 675
    , 682 n.3, 
    105 S. Ct. 1568
    , 1573 n.3 (1985); United States v. Aldaco , 
    168 F.3d 148
    , 152 (5th Cir. 1999)). See also United States v. Brown,
    
    159 F.3d 147
    (3d Cir. 1998).
    In summary, we conclude that the officers had
    reasonable suspicion after they received the face-to-face tip,
    were in a high-crime area at 1:00 a.m., and saw Valentine
    and his two companions walk away as soon as they noticed
    the police car.
    The government offers another gr ounds for distinguishing
    this case from Ubiles. Unlike the V irgin Islands, New Jersey
    not only makes it a crime when a person "knowingly has in
    his possession any handgun, including any antique
    handgun, without first having obtained a per mit to carry
    the same," N.J.S.A. S 2C:39-5(b), but also New Jersey
    presumes that someone carrying a handgun does not have
    a permit to possess it until the person establishes
    otherwise. See N.J.S.A. S 2C:39-2(b). New Jersey also has
    strict permit requirements and a rigid investigation and
    approval process that buttress the statutory presumption.
    See N.J.S.A. S 2C:58-4.
    Given the evidence supporting the informant's tip in this
    case, we need not consider New Jersey's regulatory scheme
    or determine under what circumstances New Jersey's
    presumption would provide reasonable suspicion for a
    Terry stop.
    IV
    The District Court expressly held that inquiry about
    reasonable suspicion in this case should be confined to
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    events before Woodard order ed Valentine to stop. Because
    the District Court reached this issue, we think it is
    important to explain why that holding was err oneous.
    While it is true that the "reasonableness of official
    suspicion must be measured by what the officers knew
    before they conducted their search," J.L., 529 U.S. at ___,
    120 S.Ct. at 1379, the District Court's analysis did not take
    into account that there can be no Fourth Amendment
    violation until a seizure occurs. In Hodari D. the Supreme
    Court held that for there to be a seizur e, the police must
    apply physical force to the person being seized or, where
    force is absent, have the person seized submit to a show of
    police authority. Hodari 
    D., 499 U.S. at 626-28
    , 111 S.Ct.
    at 1550-51; Abraham v. Raso, 
    183 F.3d 279
    , 291 (3d Cir.
    1999); United States v. Bradley, 196 F .3d 762, 768 (7th Cir.
    1999). Thus, if the police make a show of authority and the
    suspect does not submit, there is no seizur e. Hodari 
    D., 499 U.S. at 626
    , 111 S.Ct. at 1551; United States v.
    $32,400 in United States Currency, 82 F .3d 135, 139 (7th
    Cir. 1992). As the Supreme Court r ecently explained,
    "Attempted seizures of a person are beyond the scope of the
    Fourth Amendment." County of Sacramento v. Lewis, 
    523 U.S. 833
    , 845 n.7, 
    118 S. Ct. 1708
    , 1716 n.7 (1998). Cf.
    Brower v. Inyo County, 
    489 U.S. 593
    , 596-97, 
    109 S. Ct. 1378
    , 1381 (1989) (A seizure did not occur during the 20
    miles in which a police car, with flashing lights, chased a
    suspect, and instead only occurred when the suspect's car
    crashed into a police blockade.).
    The facts of Hodari D. illustrate how the concept of a
    seizure should be applied. When two police officers
    approached a group of four or five youths gathered around
    a car, the group immediately dispersed, prompting one
    officer to pursue Hodari, the respondent. By taking a side
    street, the officer was able to overtake Hodari. Surprised,
    Hodari tossed away what appeared to be a small rock,
    moments before the officer tackled him. The central
    question before the Supreme Court was whether the small
    rock, which turned out to be crack, should be suppressed.
    The Court held that even assuming that the officers did
    not have reasonable suspicion to stop Hodari when the
    pursuit began, the crack should not have been suppr essed,
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    for Hodari never complied with the police officers' original
    show of authority and therefore was not seized when he
    threw the crack aside.
    Other courts have applied Hodari D. and considered a
    suspect's conduct after he failed to comply with an officer's
    show of authority. See, e.g., United States v. Johnson, 
    212 F.3d 1313
    (D.C. Cir. 2000); United States v. Smith, 
    217 F.3d 746
    (9th Cir. 2000); United States v. Santamaria-
    Hernandez, 
    968 F.2d 980
    (9th Cir . 1992).
    In Johnson, for example, two officers in an unmarked car
    were patrolling a high-crime area and pulled into a parking
    lot where two people were sitting in a parked car with a
    young woman standing nearby. As the officers appr oached,
    they saw the woman lean into the passenger's window and
    hand the defendant, Johnson, an object. As the officers
    drew closer, the woman walked away, and Johnson made
    what the officers described as a "shoving down" motion.
    Thinking Johnson might be armed, one officer drew his
    gun, advised his partner to do the same, and shouted, "Let
    me see your 
    hands." 212 F.3d at 1315
    . But Johnson did
    not comply and continued to shove down with his ar ms
    several more times. In response, the officer quickly strode
    up to the car, reached in, and discover ed crack.
    The D.C. Circuit reasoned that if the seizure had taken
    place when the officers drew their guns and ordered
    Johnson to show his hands, the court "doubt[ed] very
    much" whether the officers would have had r easonable
    suspicion to make a stop. 
    Id. at 1316.
    Johnson did not
    comply, however, with the officers' show of authority. "On
    the contrary, he continued to make ``shoving down' motions,
    gestures that were the very opposite of complying with
    Fulton's order, and which a reasonable officer could have
    thought were actually suggestive of hiding (or retrieving) a
    gun." 
    Id. at 1316-17.
    Those actions, the court held, gave
    the officers reasonable suspicion for the search that
    revealed the crack. Cf. Watkins v. City of Southfield, 
    221 F.3d 883
    (6th Cir. 2000) (A suspect's refusal to comply with
    an officer's order to stop contributed to the officer's
    suspicion.); United States v. Moorefield, 
    111 F.3d 10
    , 14 (3d
    Cir. 1997) (When officers stopped the defendant's car, his
    "furtive hand movements and refusal to obey the officers'
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    orders" helped provide the officers with reasonable
    suspicion.).
    We conclude that as in Johnson and Moorefield, what
    Valentine did after he failed to comply with the police
    officers' orders can be considered in evaluating reasonable
    suspicion. Valentine hopes to distinguish cases like
    Johnson and Smith by claiming that in fact he had already
    been seized before he charged towar d Officer Woodard. He
    says that when Woodard order ed him to come over and
    place his hands on the car, he momentarily"complied" with
    the order, stopped, and gave his name. This "compliance,"
    he protests, was enough to trigger a seizur e.
    We have reviewed the record carefully and find no
    evidence in support of Valentine's theory that he even
    momentarily complied, and some evidence, such as
    Woodard's police report, appears to rebut the theory. But
    regardless, no factual determination is necessary, for even
    if we accept Valentine's version, it would not show that he
    was seized before he charged Woodard.
    Under some circumstances we have held that a
    defendant was seized despite his subsequent flight. In
    United States v. Coggins, 
    986 F.2d 651
    , 653-54 (3d Cir.
    1993) police officers stopped the defendant in a stairwell at
    an airport and asked him a number of questions, which he
    answered. After the defendant later asked per mission to go
    to the bathroom and was allowed to leave, hefled. On
    appeal we rejected the government's ar gument that the
    defendant had not been seized.
    But Valentine's case is easily distinguishable, for his
    momentary "compliance" is a far cry fr om the lengthy
    detention in Coggins. Cf. United States v. Hernandez, 
    27 F.3d 1403
    , 1407 (9th Cir. 1994) (The defendant's
    momentary hesitation and direct eye contact with officer
    prior to his flight did not constitute a seizur e.); United
    States v. Sealey, 
    30 F.3d 7
    , 10 (1st Cir . 1994) (A defendant
    was not seized when an officer approached him and called
    out, "Hey Stephen, what's up?"); United States v.
    Washington, 
    12 F.3d 1128
    , 1132 (D.C. Cir. 1994) (The
    defendant was not seized when he stopped his car at the
    curb in response to police commands, but then sped away
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    when the officer approached on foot.). Even if Valentine
    paused for a few moments and gave his name, he did not
    submit in any realistic sense to the officers' show of
    authority, and therefore there was no seizure until Officer
    Woodard grabbed him.
    And once we consider Valentine's actions after Woodard's
    order, it is clear that we have an independent ground for
    finding that the officers had reasonable suspicion. For if
    headlong flight in a high-crime area pr ovides reasonable
    suspicion under Wardlaw, then charging toward a police
    officer in a high-crime area also by itself provides
    reasonable suspicion.
    For the foregoing reasons, the District Court's order of
    April 27, 2000, will be reversed. The case will be remanded
    to the District Court for further proceedings consistent with
    this opinion.
    A True Copy:
    Teste:
    Clerk of the United States Court of Appeals
    for the Third Circuit
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