United States v. Robinson ( 2002 )


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    9-13-2002
    USA v. Robinson
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    Docket No. 00-1328
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    PRECEDENTIAL
    Filed September 13, 2002
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    Nos. 00-1328 & 00-1715
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    v.
    MITCHELL ROBERTSON
    a/k/a MITCHELL ROBINSON
    a/k/a BRYHEER McMICHAEL
    Mitchell Robinson,
    Appellant
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
    D.C. Criminal No. 99-cr-00484
    (Honorable Edmund V. Ludwig)
    Argued April 5, 2001
    Before: SCIRICA, AMBRO and GIBSON,*
    Circuit Judges
    (Filed September 13, 2002)
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    * The Honorable John R. Gibson, United States Circuit Judge for the
    Eighth Judicial Circuit, sitting by designation.
    DAVID L. McCOLGIN, ESQUIRE
    (ARGUED)
    Defender Association of Philadelphia
    Federal Court Division
    Curtis Center, Suite 540 West
    Independence Square West
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19106
    Attorney for Appellant
    CAROL M. SWEENEY, ESQUIRE
    (ARGUED)
    Office of United States Attorney
    615 Chestnut Street, Suite 1250
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19106
    Attorney for Appellee
    OPINION OF THE COURT
    SCIRICA, Circuit Judge.
    Mitchell Robertson entered a conditional guilty plea 1 to
    possession of ammunition by a convicted felon, a violation
    of 18 U.S.C. S 922(g)(1).2 The sole issue on appeal is
    whether police officers had reasonable suspicion to stop a
    public bus on which Robertson was traveling and search
    for and seize a handgun and ammunition. We will affirm.
    I.
    On April 29, 1999, at 12:10 p.m., Philadelphia Police
    Captain Joseph Sullivan of the 35th Police District and
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    1. Under Fed. R. Crim. P. 11(a)(2), "a defendant may enter a conditional
    plea of guilty or nolo contendere, reserving in writing the right, on appeal
    from the judgment, to review of the adverse determination of any
    specified pretrial motion." Robertson entered a conditional guilty plea
    under Rule 11, preserving his right to appeal the denial of his motion to
    suppress. See also United States v. Zudick, 
    523 F.2d 848
    , 851 (3d Cir.
    1975).
    2. He was sentenced to sixty-six months’ imprisonment, three years of
    supervised release, a $500 fine, and a $100 special assessment.
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    Officer Joseph Carolyn, his driver, responded to a radio call
    that police officers were pursuing two male robbery
    suspects on the run, in the area of 18th Street and 66th
    Avenue. At least one of the suspects was allegedly armed.
    A second radio report described the men as African-
    American, one wearing a white shirt and reddish pants, the
    other a white or gray shirt and dark pants, possibly blue
    jeans. After traveling ten to twelve city blocks, Captain
    Sullivan and Officer Carolyn met up with several other
    officers in the 6600 block of Gratz Street, one-half block
    west of 18th Street. Captain Sullivan and Officer Carolyn
    left their unmarked patrol car to speak with the other
    officers.
    At this point Captain Sullivan saw two men running"in
    the eastbound actual traffic lanes" of 66th Avenue, crossing
    the intersection of Gratz Street.3 Believing these two men fit
    the descriptions he had just received, Captain Sullivan
    instructed Officer Carolyn to return to their car, pick him
    up, and follow the suspects. The patrol car was parked a
    quarter of the way up Gratz Street, facing north, and
    Officer Carolyn had to back up to get onto 66th Avenue. A
    line of buildings and houses caused Captain Sullivan to
    lose sight of the two men after they turned the corner onto
    66th Avenue. When Officer Carolyn arrived with the car,
    approximately one minute later, they proceeded east on
    66th Avenue.
    Just then, a van pulled alongside Captain Sullivan’s
    window, and the van driver gestured to roll down the police
    car’s window. Captain Sullivan described the van driver as
    a heavy-set African-American male in his late forties to
    early fifties. The van driver informed Captain Sullivan the
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    3. The two men Captain Sullivan saw were apparently running toward
    the robbery scene. But the direction of their flight may or may not be
    legally consequential. Fleeing robbers may have changed direction for a
    certain purpose. See, e.g., Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000)
    ("Headlong flight -- wherever it occurs -- is the consummate act of
    evasion; it is not necessarily indicative of wrongdoing, but it is certainly
    suggestive of such."). The direction the suspects were running remains
    one of many factors to consider in evaluating the"totality of the
    circumstances." Here, we do not believe it negates the reasonable
    suspicion that these men were the alleged robbers.
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    two men he was "looking for" had boarded a SEPTA bus4 a
    few blocks away on 66th Avenue: "Officer, them two guys
    you’re looking for just got on that bus." Captain Sullivan
    did not ask the van driver’s name, address, or telephone
    number. The two officers chased after the eastbound
    SEPTA bus, stopped and boarded it. Two to three minutes
    elapsed between the time Officer Carolyn obtained the car
    and the time the officers boarded the bus.
    Among the twelve to fifteen passengers on the bus,
    Captain Sullivan saw two men matching the descriptions of
    the robbery suspects. Both were seated in the rear of the
    bus. Captain Sullivan testified that Robertson, one of the
    two men, was wearing a grayish shirt with dark pants 5 and
    the person sitting next to Robertson was wearing a white
    shirt and red pants.6
    Upon boarding the SEPTA bus, Captain Sullivan made
    eye contact with Robertson. He saw Robertson remove an
    item from his waistband with his right hand, reach over the
    passenger seated next to him, and place the item behind
    the seat in front of him and to his right -- on top of the
    bus’s wheel well. Based on his experience, Captain Sullivan
    believed Robertson was trying to hide a concealed weapon.
    Captain Sullivan drew his weapon and ordered Robertson
    to lie on the floor. A search of the wheel well by another
    officer revealed a loaded five-shot break-open revolver.
    Other officers brought the robbery victim to the scene,
    but the victim was unable to identify Robertson and his
    companion as the robbers. The recovered weapon was of
    indeterminate age and therefore, could not form the basis
    of a weapons possession charge. See 18 U.S.C. S 921(a)(3)
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    4. The Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority provides
    public bus transportation for the City of Philadelphia.
    5. The color of Robertson’s clothing that day remains somewhat in
    dispute. Two other officers testified Robertson was wearing blue or dark
    jeans and a gray or dirty white shirt with black lettering on the front.
    Photographs taken at police headquarters show Robertson wearing a
    black T-shirt and jacket. Robertson’s prison receipt lists a black T-shirt,
    black jeans, and a multi-colored jacket.
    6. There is no dispute this person matched the description of the second
    suspect.
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    (1994).7 Robertson was charged with illegal possession of
    ammunition by a convicted felon, a violation of 18 U.S.C.
    S 922(g)(1).8 After a hearing on Robertson’s motion to
    suppress, the District Court held the police officers "were
    justified in stopping the SEPTA bus, having formed the . . .
    reasonable belief that the two robbery suspects had gotten
    on the bus and believing that at least one of them had a
    gun." This appeal followed.
    II.
    The District Court had jurisdiction under 18 U.S.C.
    S 3231. We have jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C.S 1291.
    III.
    The central question on appeal is whether Captain
    Sullivan had reasonable suspicion to stop and board the
    SEPTA bus on which Robertson was traveling. As in all
    difficult suppression cases, we must consider the totality of
    the circumstances, including the police officer’s knowledge,
    experience, and common sense judgments about human
    behavior. The Fourth Amendment prevents "unreasonable
    searches and seizures." U.S. Const. amend. IV. Generally,
    for a seizure to be reasonable under the Fourth
    Amendment, it must be effectuated with a warrant based
    on probable cause. Katz v. United States, 
    389 U.S. 347
    ,
    356-57 (1967). But under the "narrowly drawn authority" of
    Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 27 (1968), an officer without a
    warrant "may, consistent with the Fourth Amendment,
    conduct a brief, investigatory stop when the officer has a
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    7. Federal firearms statutes do not regulate the possession of firearms
    manufactured prior to 1898. The manufacture date of Robertson’s
    firearm could not be established, so no federal prosecution for the gun
    could ensue. But the government proceeded with the ammunition count,
    which has no chronological limitation. See 18 U.S.C. SS 921(a)(16),
    921(a)(17).
    8. Robertson, also known as "Mitchell Robinson" and "Bryheer
    McMichael," possessed five live rounds of ammunition, loaded in a
    Spanish break-open revolver with an obliterated serial number.
    Robertson has twice been convicted of crimes punishable by more than
    a year in prison.
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    reasonable, articulable suspicion that criminal activity is
    afoot." Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 123
    .
    To determine whether reasonable suspicion exists, we
    must consider the " ‘totality of the circumstances -- the
    whole picture.’ " United States v. Sokolow , 
    490 U.S. 1
    , 8
    (1989) (quoting United States v. Cortez, 
    449 U.S. 411
    , 417
    (1981)); see also United States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 
    122 S. Ct. 744
    , 750-51 (2002) ("This process allows officers to
    draw on their own experience and specialized training to
    make inferences from and deductions about the cumulative
    information available to them that might well elude an
    untrained person." (quotation and citation omitted)). In
    United States v. Nelson, 
    284 F.3d 472
     (3d Cir. 2002), we
    described Arvizu as follows: "In the Supreme Court’s most
    recent pronouncement on the Fourth Amendment
    reasonable suspicion standard, it accorded great deference
    to the officer’s knowledge of the nature and the nuances of
    the type of criminal activity that he had observed in his
    experience, almost to the point of permitting it to be the
    focal point of the analysis." 
    Id. at 482
    .
    Moreover, we are appropriately reluctant to "second-
    guess" investigative decisions made by officers in hot
    pursuit of criminal suspects. E.g., United States v.
    Valentine, 
    232 F.3d 350
    , 355 (3d Cir. 2000) ("The officers
    knew the suspect was still in the vicinity, and had they
    stalled for more lengthy questioning of the informant, the
    armed suspect could have escaped detection."), cert. denied,
    
    532 U.S. 1014
     (2001); United States v. Brown, 
    159 F.3d 147
    , 149 (3d Cir. 1998) ("A police officer may conduct a
    warrantless stop and frisk if specific and articulable facts,
    together with all rational inferences, suggest that the
    suspect was involved in criminal activity.") (summarizing
    Terry). The Supreme Court has held "the determination of
    reasonable suspicion must be made on common sense
    judgments and inferences about human behavior."
    Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 125
    .
    IV.
    The District Court found the stop of the SEPTA bus was
    supported by reasonable suspicion and the search and
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    seizure was valid. We exercise plenary review over the
    District Court’s conclusions regarding reasonable
    suspicion. We review the District Court’s factual findings
    for clear error. United States v. Riddick, 
    156 F.3d 505
    , 509
    (3d Cir. 1998). We exercise plenary review over the District
    Court’s application of law to the facts of this case. 
    Id.
    As noted, calculating whether an officer has reasonable
    suspicion to warrant a stop and search is often an
    imprecise judgment. Arvizu, 
    122 S. Ct. at 751
     ("Our cases
    have recognized that the concept of reasonable suspicion is
    somewhat abstract."); Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 125
     ("[W]e
    cannot reasonably demand scientific certainty from judges
    or law enforcement officers where none exists."). The
    determination is often made under exigent circumstances
    requiring quick, decisive reactions. Under this set of facts,
    Captain Sullivan had a reasonable suspicion that the two
    suspects he viewed sprinting through the streets of
    Philadelphia, in close proximity to the scene of the armed
    robbery, had committed the crime. See Alabama v. White,
    
    496 U.S. 325
    , 330 (1990) ("Reasonable suspicion is a less
    demanding standard than probable cause not only in the
    sense that reasonable suspicion can be established with
    information that is different in quantity or content than
    that required to establish probable cause, but also in the
    sense that reasonable suspicion can arise from information
    that is less reliable than that required to show probable
    cause.").
    The "total picture" in this case demonstrates Captain
    Sullivan reasonably suspected the men who boarded the
    bus were the suspected armed robbers. In reaching this
    determination, Captain Sullivan relied on his experience
    and training, indispensable to his evaluation of reasonable
    suspicion. Cf. Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 30
    ; see also Ornelas v.
    United States, 
    517 U.S. 690
    , 699 (1996) ("[A] police officer
    views the facts through the lens of his police experience
    and expertise.").
    It is well settled that reasonable suspicion can be based
    on information gathered from another person. Adams v.
    Williams, 
    407 U.S. 143
    , 147 (1972). Robertson contends
    Captain Sullivan improperly relied on statements from the
    van driver before deciding to stop the SEPTA bus. We
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    disagree. Information provided by the van driver was
    reliable because it was provided by a witness "reporting
    what he had observed moments ago, not what he learned
    from stale or second-hand sources." Valentine , 
    232 F.3d at 354
    . The van driver spoke directly to Captain Sullivan, who
    had at least a fleeting "opportunity to assess[his] credibility
    and demeanor." 
    Id. at 350
    . The van driver was in the area
    where an armed robbery had just occurred. He was driving
    on the same street where two "armed" fleeing men had been
    spotted. Cf. Brown, 
    159 F.3d at 150
     (suspect’s presence in
    "close proximity to the crime scene a few minutes after" a
    crime supported a finding of reasonable suspicion). He
    initiated contact with Captain Sullivan and, without being
    prompted, said the "two guys" pursued had just boarded
    the SEPTA bus. "[I]n light of the total circumstances," the
    information was "sufficiently trustworthy." Valentine, 
    232 F.3d at 355
    .
    No doubt in perfect hindsight and with more time,
    Captain Sullivan might well have asked the bystander more
    questions. But elaboration or corroboration in these
    circumstances can delay -- and even terminate-- effective
    pursuit. Valentine, 
    232 F.3d at 355
    . This concern is not
    abstract. At the suppression hearing Captain Sullivan was
    asked by defense counsel whether he had seen the van
    driver before, whether the van driver was an "officer," and
    whether he took the van driver’s name, address or
    telephone number. To all these inquiries, Captain Sullivan
    answered, "No, I was a little more concerned with catching
    that bus." If Captain Sullivan had waited to determine if the
    van driver had a basis for his statement, the fleeing
    suspects may well have escaped. It is legally insignificant
    that Robertson was not ultimately identified by the victim
    as the armed robber. Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 271
    (2000) ("The reasonableness of official suspicion must be
    measured by what the officers knew before they conducted
    their search.").
    Nor do we believe Captain Sullivan’s "hot pursuit" of the
    suspects had turned "cold" by the time he boarded the bus.
    Only two to three minutes passed between the time Officer
    Carolyn began backing down Gratz Street and the time
    Captain Sullivan stopped the bus. Under this set of facts,
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    the "hot" pursuit remained quite warm. Nor is there any
    allegation or hint that Captain Sullivan’s "hot pursuit" of
    Robertson was a pretext. Captain Sullivan reasonably
    thought he was chasing armed robbers through
    Philadelphia city streets. His decision to stop the bus was
    based on a "common sense judgment." Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 125
    .
    Robertson characterizes the van driver as an "anonymous
    informant." We disagree. We view this as essentially a hot
    pursuit case, aided by a bystander’s informative tip. For
    Fourth Amendment purposes, the information the van
    driver provided Captain Sullivan, coupled with the other
    circumstances, justified a "brief investigatory stop" of the
    bus. Accord Valentine, 
    232 F.3d at 353
    . Regardless, the
    information conveyed by the van driver contained several
    indicia of reliability, distinguishing it from the truly
    anonymous tip in Florida v. J.L. See 
    529 U.S. at 271
     (police
    cannot rely on "the bare report of an unknown,
    unaccountable informant who has neither explained how he
    knew [certain information] nor supplied any basis for
    believing he had inside information about [the suspect]").
    We cannot divorce the information provided by the van
    driver from the surrounding circumstances of the hot
    pursuit. The Supreme Court has rejected this type of
    bifurcated analysis:
    The [Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit] appeared
    to believe that each observation by [a border patrol
    agent] that was by itself readily susceptible to an
    innocent explanation was entitled to "no weight." Terry,
    however, precludes this sort of divide-and-conquer
    analysis. The officer in Terry observed the petitioner
    and his companions repeatedly walk back and forth,
    look into a store window, and confer with one another.
    Although each of the series of acts was "perhaps
    innocent in itself," we held that, taken together, they
    "warranted further investigation."
    Arvizu, 
    122 S. Ct. at 751
     (citations omitted); see also
    Nelson, 
    284 F.3d at 484
     (reiterating that the circumstances
    surrounding an anonymous tip -- "its content and import,
    and the knowledge of the officer receiving it"-- must be
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    considered to determine whether reasonable suspicion
    existed).
    Furthermore, we believe United States v. Roberson, 
    90 F.3d 75
     (3d Cir. 1996), is inapposite. In Roberson, the
    Philadelphia Police Department 911 officer received an
    "anonymous tip" of criminal activity at the 2100 block of
    Chelten Avenue. 
    Id. at 76
    . Police officers, who were
    unaware of the activity before receiving the call, approached
    a person matching the tipster’s profile. 
    Id.
     We reversed the
    district court’s refusal to suppress evidence obtained
    through a subsequent search, largely because the police,
    "dealing with an anonymous and bare-bones tip," had "no
    basis for assessing either the reliability of the informant or
    the grounds on which the informant believed that a crime
    was being committed." 
    Id. at 80
    .
    Roberson is distinguishable in at least three significant
    ways. First, the investigation in Roberson was initiated
    because of an anonymous telephone "tip." Here, Captain
    Sullivan was already pursuing persons matching a
    description, provided by other police officers, of two men
    who had just committed an armed robbery and were
    sprinting through a specific area. Having observed the
    fleeing suspects board the SEPTA bus, the bystander told
    Captain Sullivan where the men he "was looking for" had
    gone. Second, in Roberson, "[t]he officers could have set up
    surveillance of the defendant" in order to corroborate the
    "non-predictive, anonymous tip they received." 
    90 F.3d at 81
    . Here, Captain Sullivan, in hot pursuit, did not have
    time to ask for details without risking the suspects’
    disappearance. Finally, in Roberson we expressly declined
    to extend our holding beyond the facts presented, namely,
    when an anonymous tip suggests a defendant is selling
    drugs. 
    90 F.3d at
    81 n.4 ("We do not address whether such
    a tip is sufficient to create reasonable suspicion when the
    tip involves an allegation that the defendant was carrying a
    gun rather than dealing drugs. Under those circumstances,
    a different rule may apply.").
    In sum, we believe the totality of the circumstances
    demonstrates Captain Sullivan had reasonable suspicion to
    stop the SEPTA bus on which Robertson was riding. On
    these facts, Captain Sullivan reasonably relied on the
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    credible information the van driver provided and made a
    "common sense" judgment consistent with constitutional
    requirements.
    V.
    Next we consider whether the search for and seizure of
    Robertson’s firearm and ammunition was consistent with
    the Fourth Amendment. As noted, Captain Sullivan had the
    requisite reasonable suspicion to stop the public bus on
    which Robertson was riding. Given the possibility that the
    suspects might have been carrying weapons,9 Captain
    Sullivan testified that when boarding the bus, he was
    concerned for his personal safety. As the Supreme Court
    held, "there must be a narrowly drawn authority to permit
    a reasonable search for weapons for the protection of the
    police officer, where he has reason to believe that he is
    dealing with an armed and dangerous individual, regardless
    of whether he has probable cause to arrest the individual
    for a crime." Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 27
    . A limited search of the
    suspects for weapons was justified under these
    circumstances.
    But more significantly, Captain Sullivan saw Robertson
    remove an item from his waistband, reach over the adjacent
    passenger, and place the item on top of the bus’s wheel
    well. Captain Sullivan reasonably believed Robertson was
    trying to hide a concealed weapon. Therefore, Robertson
    also posed a threat to the bus passengers’ safety. Cf. Terry,
    
    392 U.S. at
    27:
    The officer need not be absolutely certain that the
    individual is armed; the issue is whether a reasonably
    prudent man in the circumstances would be warranted
    in the belief that his safety or that of others was in
    danger. And in determining whether the officer acted
    reasonably in such circumstances, due weight must be
    given, not to his inchoate and unparticularized
    suspicion, or "hunch," but to the specific reasonable
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    9. To reiterate, in the radio report Captain Sullivan heard, officers
    broadcast that they were in pursuit of two males in connection with a
    robbery, and that at least one of the males was armed with a handgun.
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    inferences which he is entitled to draw from the facts
    in light of his experience.
    See also Nelson, 
    284 F.3d at 483
     (noting the"Supreme
    Court’s consistent prior teaching that an officer, in
    determining whether there is reasonable suspicion, may
    take into account reports of an active threat, including the
    presence and use of dangerous weapons"). Given
    Robertson’s movements on the bus, which were observed
    by Captain Sullivan, the search for and ultimate seizure of
    Robertson’s handgun and ammunition were justified.
    VI.
    We reserve the broader question whether police need
    reasonable suspicion to stop a public bus.10 Accord United
    States v. Leon, 
    468 U.S. 897
    , 905 (1984) ("Although it is
    undoubtedly within our power to consider the question . . .
    that question has not been briefed or argued; and it is also
    within our authority, which we choose to exercise, to take
    the case as it comes to us . . . .").11
    The Supreme Court, in a case involving an allegedly
    unconstitutional search on a public bus, recently reiterated
    that "for the most part, per se rules are inappropriate in the
    Fourth Amendment context." United States v. Drayton, ___
    U.S. ___, 
    122 S. Ct. 2105
    , 2111 (2002) (holding the proper
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    10. Even assuming Robertson had an expectation of privacy on this
    public bus, the firearm was located on the bus’s wheel well, not, for
    example, in luggage Robertson carried. To that extent, the search was of
    the bus itself, not of Robertson’s person or belongings.
    11. Compare Delaware v. Prouse, 
    440 U.S. 648
    , 653 (1979) ("stopping an
    automobile and detaining its occupants constitute a‘seizure’ [for the
    Fourth Amendment"), and United States v. Hernandez-Zuniga, 
    215 F.3d 483
    , 486-87 (5th Cir. 2000) (assuming that a stop of a bus by the police
    constituted a seizure) (citing cases), with Florida v. Bostick, 
    501 U.S. 429
    , 436 (1991) (holding that if police board a bus during a regular stop,
    the relevant inquiry is "whether a reasonable person would feel free to
    decline the officer’s requests or otherwise terminate the encounter"), and
    United States v. Gonzales, 
    979 F.2d 711
    , 712-13 (9th Cir. 1992)
    (boarding of bus implicated no constitutional rights where it occurred at
    a stoplight and transpired "pursuant to an agreement between the bus
    company and the border patrol").
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    inquiry considers the totality of the circumstances). In
    Drayton, the Supreme Court rejected a categorical rule that
    evidence obtained during suspicionless drug interdiction
    searches on public buses must be suppressed unless police
    officers advise passengers of their rights not to cooperate
    and to refuse consent. Id. at 2111-12; see also id. at 2112
    ("It is beyond question that had this encounter occurred on
    the street, it would be constitutional. The fact that an
    encounter takes place on a bus does not on its own
    transform standard police questioning of citizens into an
    illegal seizure."). The proper test is the totality of the
    circumstances. As noted, once on the bus Captain Sullivan
    reasonably believed he saw Robertson remove a firearm
    from his waistband and place it on top of the bus’s wheel
    well. Under these circumstances, the search and seizure
    here is not unlawful under the Fourth Amendment.
    VII.
    For the foregoing reasons, we will affirm the judgment of
    the District Court.
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    JOHN R. GIBSON, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    I respectfully dissent. In my view, the court errs today in
    two significant respects. First, I disagree that Captain
    Sullivan was in hot pursuit--not after instructing Officer
    Carolyn to get the car which, was parked a quarter of the
    way up Gratz Street, waiting approximately a minute to get
    picked up, backing out onto 66th Avenue, and only then
    proceeding in the direction that the two men he had briefly
    glimpsed were running. Second, and even more important,
    the tip here does not involve the relating of a simple fact
    observed by the van driver, but rather his statement that
    the men Captain Sullivan was looking for got on the SEPTA
    bus. This is simply a conclusion unsupported by any basis,
    at best an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or
    ‘hunch,’ " Terry v. Ohio, 
    392 U.S. 1
    , 27 (1968), insufficient
    to justify a stop. I would reverse.
    I.
    With respect to the court’s hot pursuit discussion, there
    is serious question as to whether the total period of time,
    from Officer Carolyn obtaining the car to the boarding of
    the bus, was actually two to three minutes. Captain
    Sullivan first testified on cross-examination that it took
    approximately one minute for Officer Carolyn to get the car.
    In fact, by the time the officers emerged onto 66th Street,
    so much time had passed that Captain Sullivan testified
    that he believed he’d lost the suspects. Then the van driver
    entered the picture, and Captain Sullivan testified further
    that approximately two to three minutes had passed from
    the time the car was retrieved to the time he encountered
    the van driver. That brings the total time from the spotting
    of the running men to the conversation with the motorist to
    three to four minutes. While Captain Sullivan testified still
    later that the total time from obtaining the car to pulling
    over the bus was two to three minutes, his earlier
    testimony calls that estimation into doubt. Whatever the
    exact time period, I conclude there was no hot pursuit in
    this case, but rather a trail gone cold, if not frigid or even
    frozen.
    I further disagree with the application of any sort of hot
    pursuit analysis because the hot pursuit exception to the
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    warrant requirement requires police to have probable
    cause. United States v. Santana, 
    427 U.S. 38
     (1976). In
    fact, at oral argument the Government explicitly denied that
    it was asking this court to extend the hot pursuit exception
    to Terry stops based on reasonable suspicion. Accordingly,
    because Captain Sullivan relied on an unknown and
    unidentified van driver’s tip in stopping the bus, we should
    be primarily guided by cases involving stops based on
    anonymous tips. But see supra at 9 ("Robertson
    characterizes the van driver as an ‘anonymous informant.’
    We disagree. We view this as essentially a hot pursuit case,
    aided by a bystander’s informative tip.").
    II.
    This court recently considered anonymous tips and the
    role they play in creating reasonable suspicion in United
    States v. Roberson, 
    90 F.3d 75
     (3d Cir. 1996). The tip in
    Roberson was that a "heavy-set, black man wearing green
    pants, a brown leather jacket, and a white hooded
    sweatshirt was selling drugs on the 2100 block of Chelten
    Avenue" in Philadelphia. 
    Id. at 79
    . Despite the fact that
    officers found a man fitting that description when they
    arrived at the scene, this court concluded that reasonable
    suspicion was lacking for a stop because "the police had no
    basis for assessing either the reliability of the informant or
    the grounds on which the informant believed that a crime
    was being committed." 
    Id. at 80
     (emphasis added). In his
    opinion for the court, Judge (now Chief Judge) Becker set
    out the principles used in analyzing whether such tips are
    a sufficient basis for police action. 
    Id. at 77
    .
    Judge Becker first discussed the two-factor
    Aguilar/Spinelli test, formerly used to evaluate an
    informant’s tip in the probable cause context. 
    Id.
     (citing
    Spinelli v. United States, 
    393 U.S. 410
     (1969); Aguilar v.
    Texas, 
    378 U.S. 108
     (1964)). That test required that an
    informant’s tip, to be credible, "had to indicate both the
    basis for the informant’s knowledge and facts sufficient to
    establish its veracity or reliability." 
    Id.
     As Judge Becker
    pointed out, the Supreme Court later abandoned this two-
    part test in favor of a totality of the circumstances
    approach under which the Aguilar/Spinelli factors are
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    "better understood as relevant considerations in the
    totality-of-the-circumstances analysis that traditionally has
    guided probable cause determinations: a deficiency in one
    may be compensated for, in determining the overall
    reliability of a tip, by a strong showing as to the other, or
    by some other indicia of reliability." 
    Id.
     (quoting Illinois v.
    Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 233 (1983)). This totality of
    circumstances test was extended to the reasonable
    suspicion context in Alabama v. White, 
    496 U.S. 325
    (1990).
    In White, the Court upheld a Terry stop based upon an
    anonymous informant’s telephone tip. 
    496 U.S. at 332
    . The
    informant in that case alleged that a certain woman was in
    possession of illegal drugs, and predicted that this woman
    would leave a particular apartment, at a particular time, in
    a particular car, and then drive to a particular location. 
    Id. at 327
    . Most of the tip was corroborated by police before
    they stopped the woman. 
    Id.
     Despite the plethora of
    descriptive and predictive information contained in the tip
    (as opposed to the case before us here), the Court
    recognized that White was "a close case," 
    id. at 332
    , and
    only concluded that there was reasonable suspicion
    because "police observation showed that the informant had
    accurately predicted the woman’s movements." Florida v.
    J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 270 (2000).
    Most recently, in J.L., officers received an anonymous
    phone call alleging that a young African-American male
    wearing a plaid shirt was standing at a particular bus stop
    and carrying a gun. 
    529 U.S. at 268
    . Even though the
    police officers who investigated the tip did indeed find a
    man fitting that description at the bus stop, the Court held
    that the call did not provide them with reasonable
    suspicion to stop the man, because the tipster in that case
    had "neither explained how he knew about the gun nor
    supplied any basis for believing he had inside information."
    
    Id. at 271
    .
    As Judge Becker observed in Roberson, while White
    stressed the importance of the officer’s ability to
    corroborate significant aspects of the tip and the tip’s
    ability to predict future events, it also reiterated that the
    Aguilar/Spinelli factors "remain‘highly relevant in
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    determining the reliability of [an informant’s] report.’ "
    White, 
    496 U.S. at 328
     (quoting Gates, 
    462 U.S. at 230
    ),
    cited in Roberson, 
    90 F.3d at 80
    ; cf. J.L. , 
    529 U.S. at 271
    (holding tip insufficient because it "left the police without
    means to test the informant’s knowledge or credibility").
    Here, the corroboration of descriptive or predictive
    information generally relied upon in finding reasonable
    suspicion in the anonymous tip context is lacking. More
    disturbing, there is nothing in the tip to establish the
    informant’s basis of knowledge. This is critical because
    without something to demonstrate that the van driver was
    not only honest but also "well informed," White, 
    496 U.S. at 332
    , Sullivan is left acting purely upon the van driver’s
    impermissible "hunch," Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 27
    .
    I examine the factual issues separately, for the sake of
    clarity. This does not accord them "independent status,"
    but rather facilitates application of the totality of
    circumstances test, recognizing, as stated above, that "a
    deficiency in one [factor] may be compensated for, in
    determining the overall reliability of a tip, by a strong
    showing as to the other, or by some other indicia of
    reliability." Gates, 
    462 U.S. at 233
    , quoted in Roberson, 
    90 F.3d at 77
    .
    A.
    The lack of anything in the tip to establish a basis of
    knowledge on the part of the van driver is the most glaring
    defect in this case. See J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 271
     (holding that
    even where police verified the description of the suspect
    given by the anonymous informant, the fact that the tipster
    "neither explained how he knew about the gun nor supplied
    any basis for believing he had inside information" precluded
    finding of reasonable suspicion); cf. White, 
    496 U.S. at 332
    (concluding reasonable suspicion was present where"there
    was reason to believe not only that the caller was honest
    but also that he was well informed, at least enough to
    justify the stop"). As discussed above, basis of knowledge
    continues to be a relevant consideration in the totality of
    the circumstance analysis. Here, the van driver had at best
    an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or‘hunch,’ "
    Terry, 
    392 U.S. at 27
    , that the men he saw get on the bus
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    were the same men Sullivan was looking for. When he
    imparted this hunch to Sullivan it gained no greater
    substantive content, and Sullivan did nothing to determine
    whether the driver had any basis at all for his hunch.
    Sullivan himself thus had no more than a hunch that there
    was criminal activity afoot on the bus. This is simply not
    enough to justify a stop. 
    Id.
    Roberson concluded that since the descriptive
    information provided by the tip in that case was readily
    observable, all the Government was left with was the fact
    that the defendant was standing on a "hot" high-crime
    corner, and "[t]his is not enough." 
    90 F.3d at 80
    . Similarly
    in this case, all that Captain Sullivan could glean from the
    informant’s tip was that (1) some men had gotten on a bus
    and (2) the informant assumed these men were sought by
    the police. There was nothing in the tip to provide a "reason
    to believe" that the van driver was "well informed" and had
    any basis for knowing that the men getting on the bus were
    those sought by the police.1 White, 
    496 U.S. at 332
    . Nor did
    Captain Sullivan seek any details to establish the basis for
    this assumption or hunch. To paraphrase Judge Becker in
    Roberson: I simply cannot accept the Government’s position
    that any citizen getting on a bus who, without otherwise
    engendering suspicion, is unlucky enough to be the subject
    of a non-predictive anonymous tip is subject to a Terry stop
    simply because a crime has been committed in the area.
    See 
    90 F.3d at 80
    .
    The court seeks to distinguish Roberson. 
    Supra at 10
    . It
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    1. While it may be argued that sufficient basis of knowledge should be
    inferred from the fact that the van driver was in the area and pointing
    to a bus the suspects could conceivably have reached, we should decline
    to make such an inference absent something more in the content of the
    tip. Cf. 4 Wayne LaFave, Search and Seizure, S 9.4(g) at 211 ("[A]n
    unexplained assertion by the police (or, to the police by another) that a
    person looks suspicious is not entitled to weight.") (footnote omitted) (3d
    ed. 1996). This is not the same thing as "categoriz[ing those] factors . . .
    as simply out of bounds in deciding whether there was ‘reasonable
    suspicion’ for the stop." United States v. Arvizu, 
    122 S. Ct. 744
    , 748
    (2002). Rather, I simply conclude that the totality of circumstances here
    does not give rise to reasonable suspicion in light of the binding
    anonymous informant precedent set out in this dissent.
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    argues that this case is different because Captain Sullivan
    already knew a crime had been committed and the van
    driver merely pointed out where the men Captain Sullivan
    was looking for had gone. This but accentuates the lack of
    any basis for the van driver’s knowledge of who Captain
    Sullivan was looking for. To establish the basis for this
    knowledge, the court itself must add to the tip the words
    "pursued," supra at 8, and "having observed the fleeing
    suspects," supra at 10, to support the bald, conclusory
    statement, "The guys you are looking for, they just got on
    that bus." Had the tip contained such additional language,
    we would have a far different case. But this language is not
    in the record--the van driver did not mention fleeing or
    pursued suspects. This addition of language is a vital step
    in the court’s decision, as it supplies for itself the support
    for the tip which is lacking in the record. The van driver
    stated only that the men Captain Sullivan was looking for
    had gotten on the bus. He gave no information to support
    his raw conclusion or assumption that the men he saw
    were the "suspects" that Sullivan was looking for. He said
    nothing to demonstrate how he reached this conclusion,
    and the court errs today in supplying it for him. The facts
    in the record before us are not sufficient to justify the
    court’s conclusion.2
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    2. The court also attempts to distinguish Roberson because "[h]ere,
    Captain Sullivan, in hot pursuit, did not have time to ask for details
    without risking the suspects’ disappearance." Id. Suffice it to say that
    this argument rests on the proposition that a public bus may disappear
    in the time it takes to ask: "Were they running?" or "Was one of them
    wearing red pants?" Finally, the court suggests this case is different
    because the suspects here were alleged to be armed. There is no firearm
    exception to Terry, however. See Florida v. J.L., 
    529 U.S. 266
    , 272 (2000)
    ("Our decisions recognize the serious threat that armed criminals pose to
    public safety; Terry’s rule, which permits protective police searches on
    the basis of reasonable suspicion rather than demanding that officers
    meet the higher standard of probable cause, responds to this very
    concern."). Of most significance is that the relevance of Roberson is the
    analytical framework it sets out, not any particular set of facts it does or
    does not encompass.
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    B.
    In order for an anonymous tip to supply reasonable
    suspicion it must bear indicia of reliability. J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 274
    . The Supreme Court has looked for these indicia of
    reliability in the form of predictive or descriptive details.
    White, 
    496 U.S. at 332
    . In Roberson, this court recognized
    the importance of the corroboration of details and the value
    of predictive information, pointing out that in both Gates
    and White predictive and descriptive information was
    corroborated by police investigation prior to any seizure. 
    90 F.3d at 77, 79
    . Judge Becker concluded his analysis with
    an observation relevant to this case: "The tip in the case at
    bar contained no ‘details of future actions of third parties
    ordinarily not easily predicted.’ Thus, no future actions
    could be corroborated, and an important basis for forming
    reasonable suspicion was absent." 
    Id. at 80
     (internal
    citations omitted) (quoting White, 
    496 U.S. at 332
    ). Here,
    too, the tip contained no details of future actions. Rather,
    the prediction made--that the men the officers were looking
    for would be found on the bus--consisted entirely of an
    assumption: that the men on the bus were the ones the
    officers were looking for. The van driver gave no basis for
    this assumption, which was the key reason the officers acted.3
    Indeed, whom the officers were looking for is something
    that only the officers could know.
    The Government argues that the lack of descriptive or
    predictive information here is not fatal given the totality of
    the circumstances.4 It contends the tip merely served to fill
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    3. The court states as fact that the van driver said he saw "two guys."
    Supra at 4. However, the record, which on this point consists entirely of
    the testimony of Sullivan, is not so clear. See App. for Appellant at 33a
    ("[H]e stated to me: ‘Officer, those guys you’re looking for just got on that
    bus up there.’ "); id. at 52a ("[H]e says ‘Officer, them two guys you’re
    looking for just got on that bus’ . . . ."); id. ("[He] say[s]: ‘Officer, the guys
    you’re looking for, they just got on that bus.’ "); see also United States v.
    Robertson, 
    81 F. Supp. 2d 579
    , 580 (E.D.Pa. 2000) ("[A] motorist came
    by and informed [Sullivan] that the men he was looking for had boarded
    a SEPTA bus . . . .").
    4. It is important to remember that the circumstances in this case
    include two men running toward the scene of the crime, at midday, in
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    in the last part of the puzzle: Where did the two suspects
    go? While there may be cases that support this argument
    in a general sense, the Government cites none where
    officers relied, even in part, upon a tip so lacking in detail
    as the one here. For example, in United States v. Allen, the
    Tenth Circuit concluded that an anonymous tip was
    sufficiently corroborated "[f]or the limited purpose of
    establishing identity." 
    235 F.3d 482
    , 488 (10th Cir. 2000),
    cert. denied, 
    121 S. Ct. 1643
     (2001). However, the
    informant in that case identified the suspect by name, and
    described the suspect’s physical stature and car. Id. at 485.
    The tip here is utterly lacking in detail, and we should
    "refus[e] to stretch Alabama v. White any further."
    Roberson, 
    90 F.3d at 80
    .
    The Government also cites this court’s recent decision in
    United States v. Valentine, 
    232 F.3d 350
     (3d Cir. 2000),
    cert. denied, 
    532 U.S. 1014
     (2001), to argue that the tip in
    this case is not truly "anonymous" as that term is used in
    cases such as J.L. and White, but rather deserves
    additional credit because it was a face-to-face report. In
    Valentine this court concluded that "officers had reasonable
    suspicion after they received [a] face-to-face tip, were in a
    high-crime area at 1:00 a.m., and saw Valentine and his
    two companions walk away as soon as they noticed the
    police car." Id. at 357. J.L. was distinguished on the basis
    of the tip being face-to-face and because the officers "knew
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    metropolitan Philadelphia, cf. 4 Wayne R. LaFave, Search and Seizure,
    S 9.4(g) at 206 (3d ed. 1996) ("[L]ess will suffice in the early morning
    hours when few persons are about than would be a basis for a stopping
    at high noon."), as well as an informant whose identity is unknown, cf.
    J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 270
     (distinguishing anonymous tip from one where
    tipster "can be held responsible if her allegations turn out to be
    fabricated"); Roberson, 
    90 F.3d at
    79 n.3 (distinguishing descriptions
    given by anonymous informants from those given by"identified
    witnesses"). See generally United States v. Jones, 
    998 F.2d 883
    , 885-86
    (10th Cir. 1993) (concluding reasonable suspicion was not present in
    vehicle stop case where suspects were "in Albuquerque, a major
    population center, at 4:00 p.m. on a weekday," and the "information that
    the police were acting on came from an informant with whom they had
    no experience").
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    that the informant was reporting what he had observed
    moments ago." Id. at 354.
    While it is true that "a tip given face to face is more
    reliable than an anonymous phone call," id. at 354 (citing
    cases), that proposition does not stretch so far as to provide
    reasonable suspicion here. In White, the Supreme Court
    stated that as a tip becomes more reliable, less information
    will be required to establish reasonable suspicion--it did
    not say that no information would be required. 
    496 U.S. at 330
    . The tipster in Valentine in fact provided a detailed
    description which the police matched before making the
    stop. 
    232 F.3d at 352-53
    . Furthermore, Valentine
    recognized that the reliability inferred from a face-to-face
    tip was not sufficient in and of itself: "The reliability of a
    tip, of course, is not all that we must consider in evaluating
    reasonable suspicion; the content of the tip must also be
    taken into account . . . ." 
    Id. at 355
    . Here, the content of
    the van driver’s tip contained nothing to support the
    speculative conclusion or assumption that the men he saw
    get on the bus were the ones Sullivan was chasing.
    III.
    While this court said in Valentine that"we are not going
    to second-guess the officers’ decision to pursue the suspect
    immediately," 
    232 F.3d at 355
    , the officer in that case
    actually stopped the defendant only after he had received
    and corroborated descriptive information, 
    id. at 352-53
    .
    Sullivan did not attempt to satisfy Terry with a quick
    question such as: "Were they running?" or"What were they
    wearing?" If the officers in Valentine had time to verify the
    tip in that case even though an armed gunman was
    involved, Sullivan could reasonably be expected to do the
    same here.5 A thorough analysis of the totality of the
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    5. The fact that Sullivan was confronted with the possibility of an armed
    criminal on a passenger bus does not change this conclusion. It is
    certainly not obvious that the best reaction to such a scenario is to pull
    over the bus with sirens blaring and lights flashing. Cf. J.L., 
    529 U.S. at 273
     ("The facts of this case do not require us to speculate about the
    circumstances under which the danger alleged in an anonymous tip
    might be so great as to justify a search even without a showing of
    reliability.").
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    circumstances, as required by White and Gates, and as
    specifically focused by this court in Roberson , requires the
    conclusion that Terry was not satisfied.
    I would reverse.
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    Teste:
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    for the Third Circuit
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