Ne Hub Partners, L.P. v. CNG Transmission Corp. , 239 F.3d 333 ( 2001 )


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    1-29-2001
    NE Hub Partners LP v. CNG Transmission
    Precedential or Non-Precedential:
    Docket 00-3387
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    Filed January 29, 2001
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT
    No. 00-3387
    NE HUB PARTNERS, L.P.,
    Appellant
    v.
    CNG TRANSMISSION CORPORATION; PENN FUEL GAS,
    INC.; JAMES M. SEIF; GEORGE J. MILLER; MICHELLE
    A. COLEMAN; THOMAS W. RENWAND; BERNARD A.
    LABUSKES, JR.
    On Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Middle District of Pennsylvania
    (D.C. Civ. No. 99-00082)
    District Judge: Honorable Yvette Kane
    Argued October 6, 2000
    BEFORE: NYGAARD, GREENBERG, and COWEN,
    Circuit Judges
    (Filed: January 29, 2001)
    Walter A. Bunt, Jr. (argued)
    Daniel P. Trocchio
    Kirkpatrick & Lockhart
    535 Smithfield Street
    Henry W. Oliver Building
    Pittsburgh, PA 15222
    Andrew H. Cline
    Kirkpatrick & Lockhart
    240 North Third Street
    Harrisburg, PA 17101
    Attorneys for Appellant
    Stanley R. Geary (argued)
    Buchanan Ingersoll
    301 Grant Street
    One Oxford Centre, 20th Floor
    Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1410
    Attorney for Appellee
    CNG Transmission Corporation
    Karol L. Newman (argued)
    Hogan & Hartson
    555 13th Street, N.W.
    Washington, DC 02004-1109
    Attorney for Appellee
    Penn Fuel Gas, Inc.
    D. Michael Fisher
    Attorney General
    J. Bart DeLone (argued)
    Deputy Attorney General
    Calvin R. Koons
    Senior Deputy Attorney General
    John G. Knorr
    Office of the Attorney General of
    Pennsylvania, 15th Floor
    Strawberry Square
    Harrisburg, PA 17120
    Attorney   for Appellees
    George J.   Miller, Michelle Coleman,
    Thomas W.   Renwand, and
    Bernard A   Labuskes, Jr.
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    OPINION OF THE COURT
    GREENBERG, Circuit Judge.
    After detailed examination of numerous technical, safety,
    and environmental issues, the Federal Ener gy Regulatory
    Commission ("FERC") issued a certificate of public
    convenience and necessity for plaintiff-appellant NE Hub
    Partners, L.P.'s ("NE Hub") natural gas storage facility (the
    "Facility") in Tioga County, Pennsylvania. The
    Commonwealth of Pennsylvania may seek to revisit those
    issues in consolidated administrative appeals in its own
    permitting process in a costly pr oceeding that will delay NE
    Hub's construction of the Facility. Consequently, NE Hub
    brought a district court action seeking an injunction
    against the state appellate proceedings in an attempt to bar
    aspects of them on federal preemption gr ounds. The district
    court, however, rejected the claim without reaching its
    merits, principally on the jurisdictional gr ound that it was
    not ripe for decision before the state pr ocess concluded. See
    NE Hub Partners, L.P., No. 1: CA-99-0082 (M.D. Pa. Apr. 7,
    2000) ("NE Hub"). We disagr ee with the district court on the
    ripeness issue and accordingly will reverse its order
    dismissing the action and will remand the case for further
    proceedings.
    I. BACKGROUND
    A. Factual History1
    Since 1995 NE Hub has been seeking a plethora of
    federal and state permits to construct the Facility. The
    construction is a substantial undertaking requiring NE Hub
    to drill through the Oriskany sand formation which
    contains competing storage facilities owned by Penn Fuel
    Gas, Inc. ("Penn Fuel") and CNG Transmission Corp.
    ("CNGT").2 Not surprisingly Penn Fuel and CNGT have
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    1. We take the facts we recite mainly from the complaint which, for
    purposes of this appeal, should be taken as true and afforded all
    favorable inferences. See Standar d of Review, Part III, infra.
    2. CNGT now is called Dominion Transmission, Inc. and Penn Fuel now
    is called PPL Gas Utilities Corporation. As a matter of convenience we
    nevertheless continue to refer to them as CNGT and Penn Fuel.
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    opposed NE Hub every step of the way before both FERC
    and the Pennsylvania agencies exercising jurisdiction over
    the construction.
    Because the Facility will store natural gas for use in
    interstate commerce it is subject to FERC's jurisdiction and
    thus its construction requires a certificate of public
    convenience and necessity (the "Certificate") pursuant to
    section 7(c) of the Natural Gas Act, 15 U.S.C. SS 717 et seq.
    ("NGA"). NE Hub applied for the Certificate in November
    1995, but Penn Fuel and CNGT intervened and r equested
    FERC to reject NE Hub's application on a variety of
    technical, safety and environmental grounds, including a
    claim that the construction and use of the Facility
    threatened to damage their own facilities.
    FERC reviewed the entire range of technical, safety, and
    environmental issues relating to the Facility, and, at the
    instance of Penn Fuel and CNGT, convened a technical
    conference on the application in September 1996 at which
    they raised the following 23 issues relating to the technical,
    safety, and environmental soundness of the Facility:
    (1) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program, utilizing a large diameter drill bit, would
    result in massive mud loss to the Oriskany sand
    formation;
    (2) Whether circulation materials would s atisfactorily
    mitigate the mud loss into the surrounding
    geological strata;
    (3) Whether test drilling perfor med on well TW-501
    indicated that the Drilling and Construction
    Program would lead to massive fluid loss to the
    Oriskany sand formation;
    (4) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program had sufficient documentation r elating to
    rates of penetration that could reasonably be
    expected from the use of large diameter (28")
    drilling bits to penetrate the Oriskany sand
    formation;
    (5) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program had properly taken into account fracture
    permeability of the Oriskany sand formation;
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    (6) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program had accounted for the pressur e
    fluctuations it might encounter during drilling
    operations due to existing gas storage facilities;
    (7) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would result in cement invasion to the
    Oriskany sand formation;
    (8) Whether mud loss and cement invasion cause d
    by NE Hub's Drilling and Construction Program
    would result in irremediable damage to the
    deliverability of gas from the CNGT/Penn Fuel
    Storage;
    (9) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would lead to increased risk of gas leaks
    and catastrophic blowouts;
    (10) Whether the use of large quantities of loss
    circulation materials in NE Hub's Drilling and
    Construction Program would cause a ``cake' to
    form across the Oriskany sand for mation and
    reduce the likelihood of achieving an adequate
    cement bond between the wall of the well and the
    casing string;
    (11) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would achieve the turbulent flow
    required to remove loss circulation material from
    the Oriskany sand formation and permit the
    development of an adequate cement bond;
    (12) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program required or contained sufficient
    contingencies in the event an adequate cement
    bond was not achieved;
    (13) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program included procedures for the use of a
    cement bond log tool to evaluate the integrity of
    the cement bond between the well and casing
    string;
    (14) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would lead to fracturing of the casing
    shoe;
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    (15) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would lead to overpressuring of shallow
    formations;
    (16) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would increase the likelihood of gas loss
    or gas migration for the CNGT/Penn Fuel
    Storage;
    (17) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program would result in salt caver n subsidence;
    (18) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program relied on proper resear ch and data
    regarding the tensile and compressive strengths
    for salt;
    (19) Whether NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program relied on proper mechanical integrity
    testing of the salt caverns;
    (20) Whether NE Hub had failed to consider alter nate
    sites for cavern development;
    (21) Whether the Sandia National Laboratories r eport
    used in development of the Drilling and
    Construction Program adequately addressed
    cavern operating pressures, caver n creep and
    subsidence, and rock mechanics;
    (22) Whether the geologic conditions at locations
    targeted by NE Hub's Drilling and Construction
    Program were adequate for cavern development;
    and
    (23) Whether NE Hub should be requir ed to obtain
    insurance and/or indemnities that would be
    available to compensate CNGT and/or Penn Fuel
    for potential losses arising from the construction
    or operation of the Facility.
    App. at 20-22.
    For the next year and a half FERC, in consultation with
    NE Hub, Penn Fuel, and CNGT and with the assistance of
    an outside consulting firm, exhaustively r eviewed NE Hub's
    proposal for the Facility, taking Penn Fuel's and CNGT's
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    objections into account. In connection with this r eview NE
    Hub, Penn Fuel, and CNGT led what NE Hub has
    characterized as "a parade of experts and technical
    consultants before F.E.R.C." See app. at 24. FERC also
    made an Environmental Impact Assessment of the Facility
    pursuant to the National Environmental Policy Act, treating
    at least seven issues:
    (1) Requirements for NE Hub to create more than the
    two salt caverns approved by the Certificate;
    (2) Locations of structures and facilities necessary for
    the Facility, including right-of-ways and the
    freshwater intake structure;
    (3) Whether the Facility could be constructed and
    operated with insignificant effects on bodies of
    water, including rivers and streams;
    (4) Whether NE Hub's erosion and sedimentation
    plans were sufficient to minimize impacts on soil
    and bodies of water;
    (5) Whether NE Hub's air pollution control plans were
    sufficient to minimize air quality impacts,
    including impacts from fugitive dust;
    (6) Whether NE Hub's water quality management and
    N.P.D.E.S. stormwater discharge plans were
    sufficient to minimize impacts on water quality;
    and
    (7) Whether NE Hub's land use and reclamation plans
    were adequate.
    See app. at 23. We call these seven issues along with the 23
    issues enumerated above the "30 Issues". In addition,
    FERC considered competitive and market issues.
    On April 20, 1998, FERC issued the Certificate in a 93-
    page order. See app. at 39 et seq. The order stated that
    FERC had exercised its jurisdiction over the Facility and
    found that it could be constructed and operated safely. See
    app. at 24. The order, however, imposed various conditions
    on the construction and operation of the Facility, and
    stated that "NE Hub must comply with the State of
    Pennsylvania's drilling regulations," app. at 101, and that
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    "[r]egulation of underground storage safety is at the state
    level." App. at 66. It also stated:
    Any state or local permits issued with r espect to the
    jurisdictional facilities authorized herein must be
    consistent with the conditions of this certificate. The
    Commission encourages cooperation between interstate
    pipelines and local authorities. However, this does not
    mean that state and local agencies, through
    application of state or local laws, may prohibit or
    unreasonably delay the construction or operation of
    facilities[3] by this Commission.4
    App. at 109.
    Even before FERC issued its order NE Hub had applied
    to the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental
    Protection ("Pa.D.E.P.") for the r equisite state permits and
    thus it was proceeding on parallel regulatory paths. See
    app. at 25. While Pa.D.E.P. had monitor ed the FERC
    proceedings, it chose not to seek to intervene in them as it
    could have under 15 U.S.C. S 717n(a) and 18 C.F.R.
    S 385.214(a)(2). See app. at 25. Penn Fuel and CNGT raised
    each of the 30 Issues in repeated appearances before
    Pa.D.E.P. but nevertheless on July 17, 1997, Pa.D.E.P.
    issued the permits NE Hub sought. See app. at 25-26.
    Over the next year Penn Fuel and CNGT filed thr ee
    appeals protesting issuance of the state per mits with the
    Environmental Hearing Board for the Commonwealth of
    Pennsylvania ("E.H.B."), which is authorized to hear such
    appeals. All the individual defendant-appellees r emaining in
    this action, i.e., all defendants except Penn Fuel and CNGT,
    are administrative law judges on the E.H.B., to whom we
    will refer collectively as E.H.B. In the appeals to E.H.B.,
    which have since been consolidated, see app. at 26, Penn
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    3. Presumably "authorized" or a wor d of similar meaning should appear
    here.
    4. The district court interpreted this language to mean that the
    Certificate "was conditioned on NE Hub's obtaining any and all
    necessary state or local permits requir ed to carry out the drilling and
    construction program." See NE Hub, slip op. at 5. The parties agree that
    this interpretation is correct.
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    Fuel and CNGT again raised each issue they had advanced
    before FERC, including the 30 Issues, and pr esented
    testimony and documentation they had presented to FERC.
    See app. at 27. E.H.B. has not decided the appeals but the
    Pa.D.E.P. permits are valid pending its decision. See app. at
    1021.
    B. Procedural History
    On January 15, 1999, NE Hub filed a complaint in the
    district court against Penn Fuel, CNGT, E.H.B. and James
    M. Seif, the Secretary of Pa.D.E.P., asking for a declaratory
    judgment that the NGA preempted the Pa.D.E.P . and E.H.B.
    review process. NE Hub also requested an order enjoining
    the E.H.B. proceedings and "such other r elief as this Court
    deems just and proper." See app. at 32. However, NE Hub
    in the district court and in this court pared the scope of its
    requested relief down to the 30 Issues, and renounced any
    claim that the Certificate completely bars state r egulation of
    the Facility in areas outside the 30 Issues. 5 The complaint
    also sought a declaratory judgment and injunctive r elief
    barring Penn Fuel and CNGT from relitigating the 30 Issues
    before Pa.D.E.P. and E.H.B. because in NE Hub's view this
    relitigation would amount to an appeal of the FERC order,
    which they could prosecute only pursuant to 15 U.S.C.
    S 717r(a). See app. at 32-33.
    Secretary Seif settled with NE Hub on June 30, 1999,
    stipulating that Pa.D.E.P. lacked authority to regulate the
    Facility with respect to the 30 Issues, and thus the district
    court dismissed him as a party on July 2, 1999. See NE
    Hub, slip op. at 9; app. at 842-59. All other defendants, i.e.,
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    5. See, e.g., NE Hub's Resp. in Opp'n to CNG Transmission Corp.'s Mot.
    to Dismiss at app. at 490 ("[T]he Complaint does not seek a declaration
    that NE Hub is not required to comply to any extent with state
    environmental or safety requirements.. . . NE Hub instead seeks a
    declaration that state authorities may not r egulate or adjudicate the
    technical, safety or environmental issues that have already been decided
    by the federal agency with jurisdiction over such issues." (Emphasis
    added.)); NE Hub's Br. in Opp'n to the E.H.B. Defendants' Mot. to
    Dismiss at app. at 748; 
    id. at 750-51;
    NE Hub's Br. in Opp'n to James
    M. Seif 's Mot. to Dismiss at app. at 731; 
    id. at 734;
    NE Hub Appellant's
    Br. at 20 n.7.
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    the appellees here, moved to dismiss the complaint under
    Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(1) on a variety of gr ounds, including
    ripeness, the Eleventh Amendment, abstention, and the
    Anti-Injunction Act. The parties agreed to stay the E.H.B.
    proceedings pending the outcome of this case. See NE Hub,
    slip op. at 8.
    The district court, in a Memorandum and Order dated
    April 7, 2000, granted the appellees' motions and dismissed
    NE Hub's complaint without prejudice. See 
    id. at 21.
    The
    court parsed NE Hub's claim against E.H.B. into two
    theories of preemption: one claiming pr eemption only
    insofar as the state process conflicted with the Certificate,
    the other claiming a right to be completely fr ee from any
    state regulation. The court dismissed the action with
    respect to the conflict theory for lack of ripeness because
    E.H.B. had not yet taken an action that could inter fere with
    the federal regulations and the court believed that the
    requirement that NE Hub go through the state review
    process was not in itself a cognizable har m in the conflict
    preemption context. See 
    id. at 15-18.
    The court dismissed
    the action with respect to the total exemption from
    regulation theory on the grounds that NE Hub's
    contentions challenged the terms of the Certificate
    requiring the obtaining of state permits and thus should
    have been presented to FERC for rehearing under 15 U.S.C.
    S 717r(a), which precludes judicial r eview of FERC orders
    prior to rehearing by FERC. See NE Hub, slip op. at 18-19.
    The court then found that its jurisdiction with r espect to
    NE Hub's claims against Penn Fuel and CNGT depended on
    its jurisdiction over the claims against E.H.B., and, as the
    latter was lacking, so was the former. See 
    id. at 19-20.
    Accordingly, it dismissed the action in its entirety.
    NE Hub then timely filed this appeal contending that the
    district court erred in dismissing its pr eemption claim for
    lack of ripeness. See NE Hub's Br. at 3. NE Hub further
    contends that it is not challenging FERC's or der and thus
    it argues that the district court erred in holding that this
    action is barred because it has not sought r ehearing of the
    FERC order.
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    II. JURISDICTION
    We have jurisdiction over this appeal of afinal judgment
    of the district court pursuant to 28 U.S.C. S 1291.6 The
    district court had federal question jurisdiction under 28
    U.S.C. SS 1331 and 1337, because the case ar ose under the
    Supremacy Clause in Article VI of the United States
    Constitution, and the NGA.
    III. STANDARD OF REVIEW
    Our review of a dismissal for lack of ripeness is plenary.
    See Philadelphia Fed'n of Teachers v. Ridge, 
    150 F.3d 319
    ,
    321 (3d Cir. 1998); see also Gould Elecs. v. United States,
    
    220 F.3d 169
    , 176 (3d Cir. 2000). Mor eover, when, as here,
    defendants move to dismiss a complaint under Rule
    12(b)(1) for failure to allege subject matter jurisdiction we
    treat the allegations of the complaint as true and afford the
    plaintiff the favorable inferences to be drawn from the
    complaint.7 See Mortensen v. First Fed. Sav. & Loan Ass'n,
    
    549 F.2d 884
    , 891 (3d Cir. 1977); see also Fed. R. Civ. P.
    8(f).
    IV. ANALYSIS
    A. Ripeness
    The Supreme Court stated the purpose and ef fect of the
    ripeness doctrine in the context of interfering with an
    administrative process in Abbott Labs v. Gardner, 
    387 U.S. 136
    , 148-49, 
    87 S. Ct. 1507
    , 1515 (1967):
    [T]o prevent the courts, through avoidance of
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    6. We are not deprived of jurisdiction by reason of the dismissal having
    been without prejudice. See Black Horse Lane Assoc., L.P. v. Dow Chem.
    Corp., 
    228 F.3d 275
    , 282-87 (3d Cir . 2000).
    7. A challenge to a complaint for failure to allege subject matter
    jurisdiction is known as a "facial" challenge, and must not be confused
    with a "factual" challenge contending that the court in fact lacks subject
    matter jurisdiction, no matter what the complaint alleges, as factual
    challenges are subject to different standards. See Mortensen v. First Fed.
    Sav. & Loan Ass'n, 
    549 F.2d 884
    , 891 (3d Cir. 1977); 5A Wright & Miller,
    Federal Practice & Procedure S 1350, at 212-18 (West 1990).
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    premature adjudication, from entangling themselves in
    abstract disagreements over administrative policies,
    and also to protect the agencies from judicial
    interference until an administrative decision has been
    formalized and its effects felt in a concrete way by the
    challenging parties.
    In some circumstances the ripeness requir ement is drawn
    from Article III limitations on judicial power and in others
    from prudential limitations. See Suitum v. Tahoe Regional
    Planning Agency, 
    520 U.S. 725
    , 733 n.7, 117 S.Ct 1659,
    1664 n.7 (1997); see also Ridge, 150 F .3d at 323 n.3
    (noting ambiguity over whether ripeness is a prudential
    limitation on federal jurisdiction or is requir ed by the case-
    or-controversy requirement of Article III of United States
    Constitution); Travelers Ins. Co. v. Obusek, 
    72 F.3d 1148
    ,
    1154 (3d Cir. 1995) (same); Armstr ong World Indus., Inc. v.
    Adams, 
    961 F.2d 405
    , 411 n.12 (3d Cir . 1992) (same).
    Ripeness is a matter of degree whose thr eshold is
    notoriously hard to pinpoint. See, e.g., Maryland Cas. Co. v.
    Pacific Coal & Oil Co., 
    312 U.S. 270
    , 273, 
    61 S. Ct. 510
    , 512
    (1941) ("The difference between an abstract question and a
    ``controversy' contemplated by the Declaratory Judgment
    Act is necessarily one of degree, and it would be difficult, if
    it would be possible, to fashion a precise test. . . .");
    McCahill v. Borough of Fox Chapel, 438 F .2d 213, 215 (3d
    Cir. 1971) ("The considerations, while catholic, are not
    concrete."); Step-Saver Data Sys., Inc. v. Wyse Tech., 
    912 F.2d 643
    , 646 (3d Cir. 1990) ("it is difficult to define the
    contours of the ripeness doctrine with precision") (footnote
    omitted)).
    The Supreme Court in Abbott Labs laid out two
    fundamental considerations for determination of a ripeness
    question: (1) "the fitness of the issues for judicial decision,"
    and (2) "the hardship to the parties of withholding court
    
    consideration."8 387 U.S. at 149
    , 87 S.Ct. at 1515. In the
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    8. Factors relevant to the "fitness" consideration include, but are not
    limited to, whether the issue is purely legal (as against factual), the
    degree to which the challenged action is final, whether the claim involves
    uncertain and contingent events that may not occur as anticipated or at
    all, the extent to which further factual development would aid decision,
    and whether the parties to the action are sufficiently adverse. The
    "hardship" consideration focuses on whether a plaintiff faces a direct
    and immediate dilemma, such that lack of review will put it to costly
    choices. See 
    Ridge, 150 F.3d at 323
    .
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    context of declaratory judgments, we generally analyze
    ripeness under the threefold rubric of 
    Step-Saver, 912 F.2d at 647
    , as did the district court here: first, the adversity of
    the parties' interests; second, the probable conclusiveness
    of a judgment; third, the practical utility to the parties of
    rendering a judgment.9 See Pic-A-State Pa, Inc. v. Reno, 
    76 F.3d 1294
    , 1298 (3d Cir. 1996).
    1. Adversity
    NE Hub claims that the state permit pr ocess with respect
    to the 30 Issues is preempted but that E.H.B. nevertheless
    will continue with that process unless enjoined. In these
    circumstances, NE Hub's and E.H.B.'s inter ests hardly
    could be more adverse.
    Nevertheless, the district court held NE Hub's inter ests
    insufficiently adverse to E.H.B.'s because:
    In order to demonstrate that its claims ar e ripe, NE
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    9. The Step-Saver rubric is a distillation of the factors most relevant to
    the Abbott Labs considerations. See 
    Ridge, 150 F.3d at 323
    n.4.
    Adversity and conclusiveness apparently ar e subsumed under the
    "fitness" prong of the Abbott Labs test, while utility is relevant both
    to
    "fitness" and "hardship." Our cases have fit the factors relevant in the
    Abbott Labs framework into the Step-Saver headings, as follows:
    ADVERSITY:
    - Whether the claim involves uncertain and contingent events, or
    presents a real and substantial threat of harm. See, e.g.,Presbytery of
    N.J. v. Florio, 
    40 F.3d 1454
    , 1466 (3d Cir. 1994).
    CONCLUSIVENESS:
    - Whether issues are purely legal (as against factual).
    - Whether further factual development would be useful.
    See, e.g., 
    id. at 1468;
    T ravelers Ins. 
    Co., 72 F.3d at 1155
    .
    UTILITY:
    - Hardship to the parties of withholding decision.
    - Whether the claim involves uncertain and contingent events.
    See, e.g., Travelers Ins. Co. , 72 F.3d at 1155-56.
    Of course, there may be other factors consider ed in a ripeness analysis.
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    Hub must show that the probability of the EHB
    Defendants acting adversely to NE Hub is real and
    substantial . . . . [T]he Environmental Hearing Board
    Defendants have not, as yet, taken any action or
    issued any decision potentially conflicting with the 7(c)
    certificate. Further, it is entirely possible that the
    Environmental Hearing Board will uphold the issuance
    of the permits by [Pa.D.E.P.] and will never issue any
    decision conflicting with the federal regulatory scheme.
    See NE Hub, slip op. at 15-16.10 This analysis, which
    focuses on the possible ultimate result of the state
    regulatory process, does not take into account the case law
    that preemption may operate to spare a party from that
    very process. In fact, the process itself may give rise to
    adversity so that an action challenging the pr ocess is ripe
    even before the process concludes. Thus, in Freehold
    Cogeneration Associates, L.P. v. Boar d of Regulatory
    Commissioners, 
    44 F.3d 1178
    (3d Cir . 1995), we held that
    a preemption challenge to ongoing proceedings before the
    New Jersey Board of Regulatory Commissioners invading
    FERC's domain was ripe even though "the plaintif f did not
    challenge the ultimate substantive decision, but rather its
    authority to conduct proceedings":
    [T]he issue here is ripe for adjudication. The
    proceedings before the [state agency] have been
    ongoing for nearly one year. The inter est that Freehold
    seeks to vindicate in this proceeding is the right to be
    free from ``state laws . . . respecting the rates . . . of
    electric utilities' and from the expense, delay, and
    uncertainty inherent in the administration of such
    laws. If, as Freehold insists, the ongoing[state agency]
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    10. The district court also said NE Hub's claim was "based on the
    ``possibility' that state regulatory officials might enter an order that
    would
    interfere with the regulatory scheme. Pl. Mem. Supp. Prelim. Inj. at 19.
    That ``possibility' constitutes a contingency only, and is insufficient to
    constitute adversity of interests." See NE Hub, slip op. at 16. That
    statement mischaracterizes NE Hub's position which was that the
    process itself, at least as it related to the 30 Issues, interfered with
    the
    regulatory scheme. See, e.g. NE Hub's Br. in Opp'n to the E.H.B.
    Defendants' Mot. to Dismiss at app. at 749-51; NE Hub's Br. in Opp'n to
    James M. Seif 's Mot. to Dismiss at app. at 731, 734.
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    proceedings constitute state regulation of utility rates
    and the burdens on Freehold occasioned by those
    proceedings are the kinds of burdens which Congress
    intended [certain facilities] to be spar ed, Congress'
    mandate would be frustrated if Freehold's right to
    judicial review were postponed. Ther e is a concrete
    dispute that has already worked a sever e hardship
    upon Freehold, and a determination of the legal issue
    of preemption need not await any further developments
    . . . .
    
    Id. at 1189.
    In Sayles Hydro Associates v. Maughan, 
    985 F.2d 451
    ,
    453-54, 456 (9th Cir. 1993), a Califor nia state water board
    withheld a hydroelectric plant permit because the applicant
    did not supply certain reports and studies. The court held
    that a claim that the Federal Power Act preempted the
    ongoing state permitting process by occupying the field of
    power projects regulation was ripe, explaining as follows:
    The hardship is the process itself. Pr ocess costs
    money. If a federal licensee must spend years
    attempting to satisfy an elaborate, shifting array of
    state procedural requirements, then he must borrow a
    fortune to pay lawyers, economists, accountants,
    archaeologists, historians, engineers, r ecreational
    consultants, biologists, and others, with no r evenue, no
    near-term prospect of revenue, and no certainty that
    there ever will be revenue. Meanwhile, politics, laws,
    interest rates, construction costs, and costs of
    alternatives change. Undue process may impose cost
    and uncertainty sufficient to thwart the federal
    determination that a power project should proceed.
    
    Id. at 454.
    Similarly the court in Middle South Energy, Inc.
    v. Arkansas Public Service Commission, 772 F .2d 404 (8th
    Cir. 1985), found ripe a claim based on pr eemption and the
    Commerce Clause against ongoing Arkansas state agency
    proceedings determining whether to void certain interstate
    power purchase contracts claimed to be within FERC's sole
    jurisdiction. The plaintiff successfully
    challenge[d] not the state's ultimate substantive
    decision but its authority even to conduct the
    15
    contemplated proceeding. It can hardly be doubted that
    a controversy sufficiently concrete for judicial review
    exists when the proceeding sought to be enjoined is
    already in progress.
    
    Id. at 410-11.
    Courts have found insufficient adversity for ripeness
    where the chance of the defendant acting against plaintiff
    is but a "contingency." See, e.g. , Presbytery of N.J. v. Florio,
    
    40 F.3d 1454
    , 1464-68, 1470 (3d Cir. 1994) (insufficient
    adversity where state said it would not enfor ce challenged
    law against plaintiff); Armstrong World 
    Indus., 961 F.2d at 413-14
    (insufficient adversity between state and plaintiffs
    challenging validity of takeover law, because takeover of
    plaintiffs was "contingency which may not occur," in which
    case they would not suffer from law). Her e, however, there
    is little doubt that E.H.B. will continue with the permit
    review process, and that the process itself is the alleged
    harm.
    We recognize that E.H.B. in its pr oceedings has not yet
    taken a position on whether it will reconsider the 30 Issues,
    and if so in what depth. Thus, arguably its interest is not
    substantively adverse to that of NE Hub. See 
    Step-Saver, 912 F.2d at 648
    . Nevertheless, inasmuch as the process
    creates the adversity and E.H.B. has not disclaimed a right
    to reexamine the issues we hold that its inter est is adverse
    to that of NE Hub. See Supplemental letter brief of E.H.B.
    at 4, Sept. 13, 2000 ("Because of the structur e and nature
    of its adjudicatory function, it is not possible for the EHB
    to determine what issues will be brought to its attention by
    CNGT and Penn Fuels in their challenge to NE Hub's
    permits."). At oral argument befor e us E.H.B. adhered to
    that position.
    2. Conclusiveness
    Conclusiveness is a short-hand term for whether a
    declaratory judgment definitively would decide the parties'
    rights. See 
    Step-Saver, 912 F.2d at 648
    . It also addresses
    the extent to which further factual development of the case
    would facilitate decision, so as to avoid issuing advisory
    opinions, or whether the question presented is
    predominantly legal. See Travelers Ins. 
    Co., 72 F.3d at 16
    1155. In this case, a declaratory judgment would establish
    that E.H.B. may or may not review and base its permit
    decision on a consideration of the 30 Issues, a conclusive
    result.
    Furthermore, additional factual development is
    unnecessary. We need not await the result of the E.H.B.
    process to ascertain whether a judgment will be conclusive
    because NE Hub's contention is that the process itself is
    preempted as to the 30 Issues regar dless of what the
    outcome of a proceeding before the E.H.B. would be as to
    those issues. Moreover, a determination of whether there is
    preemption primarily raises a legal issue, a circumstance
    which facilitates entry of a declaratory judgment. See
    Pacific Gas & Elec. Co. v. State Energy Res. Conservation &
    Dev. Comm'n, 
    461 U.S. 190
    , 201, 
    103 S. Ct. 1713
    , 1720-21
    (1983) ("The question of pre-emption is pr edominantly legal,
    and although it would be useful to have the benefit of [the
    state's interpretation and application of its r egulations],
    resolution of the pre-emption issue need not await that
    development."); Travelers Ins. 
    Co., 72 F.3d at 1155
    (preemption is predominantly legal question conducive to
    declaratory judgment); Freehold Cogeneration 
    Assocs., 44 F.3d at 1188
    (judgment would be conclusive because, inter
    alia, factual developments at ongoing state pr oceedings
    would not add to construction of allegedly pr eemptive
    federal statute); cf. Abbott Labs, 387 U.S. at 
    149, 87 S. Ct. at 1515
    (issue ripe for decision because, inter alia, it is "a
    purely legal one").
    The district court held that a judgment would be
    inconclusive because
    without knowing whether Commonwealth will
    ultimately deny project authority and on what ground,
    it is impossible to determine whether its r equirements
    burden or delay the NE Hub Project to such an extent
    so as to be preempted by the 7(c) certificate.
    See NE Hub, slip op. at 16. Again, this statement overlooks
    that the state regulatory process itself can be the
    preempted burden. See discussion, infra, in part IV B of
    Freehold Cogeneration Assocs., Sayles Hydro Assocs., and
    Middle South; see also National Fuel Gas Supply Corp. v.
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    Public Service Comm'n, 
    894 F.2d 571
    , 578 (2d Cir. 1990)
    (finding state regulations of gas lines pr eempted for
    inconsistency with FERC permits because "[e]ven if a [gas]
    transporter were successful before the[state commission],
    the practical effect would be to under mine the F.E.R.C.
    approval by imposing the costs and delays inher ent in
    litigation that must be undertaken without any guidelines
    as to the limits on the exercise of state authority"); cf.
    Pacific Gas & Elec. 
    Co., 461 U.S. at 201-02
    , 103 S.Ct. at
    1721 (preemption claim against moratorium on new
    nuclear power plants ripe because "to requir e the industry
    to proceed without knowing whether the moratorium is
    valid would impose a palpable and considerable har dship
    on the utilities, and may ultimately work har m on the
    citizens of California").
    3. Practical Utility
    Practical utility goes to "whether the parties' plans of
    actions are likely to be affected by a declaratory judgment,"
    
    Step-Saver, 912 F.2d at 649
    n.9, and considers the
    hardship to the parties of withholding judgment. See
    Freehold Cogeneration Assocs., 44 F .3d at 1189 (discussing
    hardship to preemption plaintiff of delay under utility prong
    of Step-Saver). A declaratory judgment "must be of some
    practical help to the parties. The Declaratory Judgments
    Act was enacted to clarify legal relationships so that
    plaintiffs (and possibly defendants) could make responsible
    decisions about the future." Travelers Ins. 
    Co., 72 F.3d at 1155
    (quotation and citation omitted).
    A holding that the state proceedings ar e preempted
    obviously would be useful to NE Hub, which would be
    spared the hardships associated with the E.H.B.
    proceedings. NE Hub alleges that it is being put to
    considerable delay and expense by these proceedings in
    connection with the issues already dealt with by FERC.11
    See, e.g., app. at 981-82. As we stated above, the
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    11. This contention is undisputed, and is corr oborated by the statement
    of counsel for Penn Fuel at oral argument before the district court about
    the expenditures of his own client: "W e spent certainly in the seven
    figures, I would imagine, in litigating these permits before the E.H.B."
    See app. at 957.
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    requirement to go through a bur densome process can
    constitute hardship for purposes of ripeness. See, e.g.,
    Freehold Cogeneration Assocs., 44 F .3d at 1188-89; Sayles
    Hydro 
    Assocs., 985 F.2d at 453-56
    ; National Fuel 
    Gas, 894 F.2d at 578-79
    ; Middle South Ener 
    gy, 772 F.2d at 410-411
    .
    Resolving the preemption question now also will eliminate
    the possibility that E.H.B. may overturn the Pa.D.E.P.
    permits on allegedly preempted gr ounds. Cf. Pacific Gas &
    
    Elec., 461 U.S. at 201-02
    , 103 S.Ct. at 1720-21
    (uncertainty entailed by existence of state pr ocedures part
    of harm cognizable in assessing ripeness of pr eemption
    claim); Sayles Hydro Assocs., 985 F .2d at 454 (same); but
    see 
    Ridge, 150 F.3d at 323
    -26 (uncertainty as to way new
    procedures for determining pension levels would be applied
    insufficient hardship to ripen due pr ocess claim).
    The district court found that there was not a hardship
    because (1) the E.H.B. proceedings would not necessarily
    result in meaningless rehashing of issues, (2) additional
    process cannot constitute ripeness hardship, and (3) no
    state regulation presently stands in NE Hub's way. See NE
    Hub, slip op. at 17-18.
    The first proposition is correct but beside the point: there
    may be some issues that E.H.B. can consider outside of the
    30 Issues. Indeed, NE Hub asks that the proceedings before
    the E.H.B. be preempted only to the extent of precluding
    review of the 30 Issues. Thus, NE Hub does not suggest
    that federal preemption precludes E.H.B. from considering
    other issues.12 If the state pr ocess is preempted with
    respect to the 30 Issues, then undergoing the E.H.B.
    process with respect to those issues is a hardship
    cognizable for preemption purposes, and thus for
    determining ripeness of NE Hub's preemption claims.
    For the second proposition, the district court quoted two
    cases:
    [T]he Court has not considered . . . litigation cost-
    saving sufficient by itself to justify review in a case that
    would otherwise be unripe. The ripeness doctrine
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    12. We understand that NE Hub expects that review of any other issues
    will be less burdensome than a review of the 30 Issues.
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    reflects a judgment that the disadvantages of a
    premature review that may prove too abstract or
    unnecessary ordinarily outweigh the additional costs of
    --even repetitive--post-implementation litigation.
    Ohio Forestry Ass'n, Inc. v. Sierra Club , 
    118 S. Ct. 1665
    ,
    1671 (1998).
    [T]he burden of participating in further administrative
    and judicial proceedings . . . do[es] not constitute
    sufficient hardship for the purposes of ripeness.
    Florida Power & Light Co. v. EPA, 
    145 F.3d 1414
    , 1421
    (D.C. Cir. 1998). See NE Hub, slip op. at 17. But neither
    case involved a claim of preemption. When such a claim
    has been advanced, the need to participate in a state
    regulatory process in conflict with federal policy has been
    recognized as a hardship. See, e.g., Freehold Cogeneration
    
    Assocs., 44 F.3d at 1188
    -89; Sayles Hydro 
    Assocs., 985 F.2d at 453-56
    ; National Fuel 
    Gas, 894 F.2d at 578-79
    ;
    Middle South 
    Energy, 772 F.2d at 410-11
    ; cf. First Iowa
    Hydro-Electric Coop. v. Federal Power Comm'n , 328 U.S
    152, 
    66 S. Ct. 906
    (1946) (hydroelectric plant project subject
    to jurisdiction of Federal Power Commission (FERC's
    predecessor) need not obtain permit fr om Iowa, despite law
    apparently conditioning federal license on compliance with
    state laws). Thus, while the district court's quotations are
    accurate they are not controlling pr ecedent in the
    circumstances here.
    Moreover, the extra litigation or administrative burden at
    issue in the cases quoted by the district court was
    apparently the burden of filing the same lawsuit later, not
    of undergoing an expensive and time-consuming state
    process. The cases quoted by the district court involved
    challenges to a Plan issued by the United States For est
    Service and a rule allegedly issued by the Envir onmental
    Protection Agency, respectively. See Sierra 
    Club, 118 S. Ct. at 1668
    ; Florida Power & Light, 145 F .3d at 1416. In both
    cases, how and even whether the Plan and rule would be
    applied was unclear; in Florida Power & Light , the court
    held the EPA had not even issued a rule. See Florida Power
    & 
    Light, 145 F.3d at 1418-19
    . In Sierra Club, the Court
    stated that requiring a challenger to a rule to engage in
    20
    post-implementation litigation over the rule does not
    constitute sufficient hardship to ripen "a case that would
    otherwise be unripe." Sierra 
    Club, 118 S. Ct. at 1671
    .
    Clearly, that holding is hardly controlling when the
    plaintiff 's challenge is to the conduct of an administrative
    process that imposes an ongoing burden.
    The district court's third proposition also misses the
    point that process can constitute hardship. While it is true
    that the Pa.D.E.P. permits are valid pending the E.H.B.
    outcome, it is not a regulation but the r egulatory process
    that afflicts NE Hub. If the process is pr eempted it is quite
    immaterial that the effectiveness of the per mits challenged
    has not been stayed. Moreover, if NE Hub goes forward
    construction of the Facility while the E.H.B. pr oceedings
    are pending it may find itself in a difficult situation if Penn
    Fuel and CNGT are successful before E.H.B.
    B. State regulatory process is susceptible of preemption
    by conflict or by field occupation.
    E.H.B. contends that the cases holding a state r egulatory
    process preempted have involved only field occupation
    preemption, and should be so confined and thus
    preemption principles are not applicable here as, in
    E.H.B.'s view, the NGA and FERC have not occupied the
    field. See E.H.B.'s br. at 17-23. The district court agreed
    that this case does not involve field occupation. We,
    however, strongly doubt that the district court was correct
    in this conclusion. See Schneidewind v. ANR Pipeline Co.,
    
    485 U.S. 293
    , 295 n.1., 300-05, 
    108 S. Ct. 1145
    , 1148 n.1,
    1150-53 (1988); Sayles Hydro 
    Assocs., 985 F.2d at 453
    ;
    Pennsylvania Med. Soc'y v. Marconis, 942 F .2d 842, 847 (3d
    Cir. 1991); Public Utils. Comm'n v. FERC , 
    900 F.3d 269
    , 274
    (D.C. Cir. 1990). Nevertheless, we need not characterize
    definitively the type of preemption implicated here to
    determine ripeness, which is the only issue before us. To
    the extent the district court already tacitly has decided
    what type of preemption is involved, on r emand, if it
    reaches the issue, it should reconsider its decision.13
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    13. The correct result here with r espect to preemption may be that we
    are dealing with a hybrid situation in which basically there is field
    21
    We realize that there would be a r easonable basis for a
    holding that process preemption should be applicable only
    when field preemption is implicated. The foundation for the
    holding would be that unless it is very clear that any result
    of a state permitting process either will be invalid or
    redundant a court should not stop the state fr om
    considering issues that in the absence of pr eemption would
    be within state jurisdiction and instead should trust in the
    judgment of the state officials not to inter fere unduly with
    a federal program.
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    occupation but FERC, by requiring NE Hub to comply with state drilling
    regulations and indicating that regulation of underground storage safety
    is at the state level but providing that state and local authorities
    should
    not prohibit or unreasonably delay the construction or operation of the
    Facility, effectively has converted the case into a conflict preemption
    matter. In this regard we point out that even within an occupied field
    federal regulations may tolerate or authorize some exercises of state
    authority. See First 
    Iowa, 328 U.S. at 167
    , 66 S.Ct. at 913; cf. National
    Fuel 
    Gas, 894 F.2d at 579
    (noting that though field of interstate gas
    facility regulation was occupied, FERC could choose to require licensees
    to obtain state permits).
    It is unclear why Judge Nygaard perceives himself as disagreeing with
    us on this point, for he believes (a) that field preemption applies here,
    but also (b) "FERC properly exercised its congressionally delegated
    authority by requiring compliance with state permitting procedures,"
    dissent at 28, and (c) he acknowledges the Certificate's requirement that
    the results of those permitting pr ocedures "must be consistent with the
    conditions [thereof]." Thus, FERC has entire control over the occupied
    field (field occupation), but has allowed the state a regulatory role that
    it may exercise only insofar as it does not conflict with FERC's decisions
    (conflict preemption), which is precisely the hybrid sort of preemption by
    which the dissent purports to be "especially tr oubl[ed]." 
    Id. at 28.
    Judge Nygaard also assigns to us a position that we nowhere take,
    namely, that the E.H.B. appeals conflict with federal law only because
    they "conflict with congressional intent to legislate exclusively."
    Dissent
    at 34 (emphasis in original). Quite the contrary, we recognize the
    possibility that Congress delegated authority to FERC, and that FERC, in
    turn has delegated some regulatory authority to the state, which the
    state may exercise only insofar as it does not conflict with the decisions
    already made by FERC. Thus, federal rules would not be exclusive
    because they would not be the only ones the NE Hub must obey, but
    some state regulations might still conflict with the federal regulations.
    22
    Nevertheless, the process preemption cases do not
    confine themselves to the field occupation context, nor
    would such a limitation be wise. Even where afield has not
    been occupied to the exclusion of state regulation, certain
    state regulatory acts clearly would conflict with federal law,
    and it is as logical to preempt state pr ocess concerning
    such matters as state actions in occupied fields. 14 Indeed,
    even if this is a conflict preemption case, it would be quite
    remarkable to hold that there cannot be pr ocess
    preemption here inasmuch as Secretary Seif on behalf of
    Pa.D.E.P. in settling the case recognized that, to the extent
    that FERC exercised jurisdiction, Pa.D.E.P . "[d]oes not have
    jurisdiction to consider and cannot conduct final
    appealable decisionmaking." App. at 855. This r ecognition
    broadly extended to "all construction activities related to
    the [Facility], including the drilling and construction of the
    brining facilities and the technical, safety, and
    environmental issues which were raised before and
    considered by FERC." App. at 846. While this stipulation
    may not be binding on the appellees, inasmuch as the state
    administrator himself recognizes the pr eemptive effect of
    the NGA and FERC's exercise of jurisdiction, we have good
    reason to recognize that conflict pr eemption principles
    might bar E.H.B. from upholding Penn Fuel's and CNGT's
    appeal on the 30 Issues.
    We also point out that, as the Supreme Court recently
    has emphasized, the different categories of preemption are
    not
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    14. Again, it is unclear why Judge Nygaar d perceives himself as
    disagreeing with us on this point for he "can possibly envision conflict
    preemption barring an on-going legal pr oceeding . . . in which the
    outcome sought by the party opposing preemption is almost certain to
    conflict with federal law." Dissent at 35. That is exactly what we hold.
    He
    then says that that is not the case here, because the E.H.B. might
    "impose additional requirements on NE Hub that do not conflict with the
    7(c) certificate." 
    Id. That is
    unquestionably true but irrelevant because
    NE Hub does not seek preemption of the entir e state process, only of the
    process with respect to the 30 Issues. W e do not decide whether the
    outcome of the E.H.B. proceedings with r espect to the 30 Issues would
    clearly so conflict. That is for the district court to decide on remand.
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    rigidly distinct. Indeed, field pre-emption may be
    understood as a species of conflict pre-emption: A state
    law that falls within a pre-empted field conflicts with
    Congress' intent (either express or plainly implied) to
    exclude state regulation.
    English v. General Elec. Co., 
    496 U.S. 72
    , 79 n.5, 
    110 S. Ct. 2270
    , 2275 n.5 (1990); see also Crosby v. National Foreign
    Trade Council, 
    120 S. Ct. 2288
    , 2294 n.6 (2000); 
    Gade, 505 U.S. at 98
    , 104 
    n.2, 112 S. Ct. at 2383
    , 2386 n.2 (1992)
    (plurality opinion) ("Our ultimate task in any pre-emption
    case is to determine whether state regulation is consistent
    with the structure and purpose of the statute as a whole."
    (Emphasis added.)); Sayles Hydro Assocs. , 985 F.2d at 456
    ("The dichotomy between the two types of pr eemption
    [conflict and field] is not so sharp in practical terms as the
    legal categorization makes it appear . . . .").
    A comparison of the standards for identifying these two
    types of preemption15 shows the reason for the blurring.16
    Conflict preemption exists where state law stands as an
    obstacle to the accomplishment and execution of the full
    purposes and objectives of Congress. See e.g., Hines v.
    Davidowitz, 
    312 U.S. 52
    , 67, 
    61 S. Ct. 399
    , 404 (1941). An
    occupied field is one in which the federal r egulatory scheme
    is "so pervasive as to make reasonable the inference that
    Congress left no room for the States to supplement it." Rice
    v. Santa Fe Elevator Corp., 
    331 U.S. 218
    , 230, 
    67 S. Ct. 1146
    , 1152 (1947). That inference is reasonable where any
    state regulation of the "occupied" subject matter would
    interfere with the purposes and objectives of the federal
    plan: a very similar standard to that for conflict
    preemption. See, e.g., Ray v. Atlantic Richfield Co., 
    435 U.S. 151
    , 168, 
    98 S. Ct. 988
    , 999 (1978) (finding field preemption
    of vessel regulations because "a state law in this area . . .
    would frustrate the Congressional desir e . . .").
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    15. We are not concerned here with express preemption which is another
    type of preemption.
    16. Contrary to the dissent's suggestion, at 31, by no means do we
    obliterate the distinction between the types of pr eemption, and we
    recognize the continuing existence of each. W e simply note that an
    instance of preemption need not necessarily be pigeonholed into one
    category or another for purposes of analyzing ripeness.
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    We therefore hold that state r egulatory process may be
    preempted by conflict with federal law,17 as well as by field
    occupation. Moreover, we reiterate that we are quite unable
    to understand why, regardless of the type of preemption
    asserted, that a claim that a state administrative process is
    preempted necessarily cannot be ripe when the alleged
    preemption is of the process itself rather than the possible
    outcome of the process. We also note that it would be
    entirely logical in an appropriate case to hold that the
    process is not preempted but to hold later that the result of
    the process is preempted.
    Furthermore, if it is evident that the r esult of a process
    must lead to conflict preemption, it would defy logic to hold
    that the process itself cannot be preempted and that a
    complaint seeking that result would not raise a ripe issue.
    Thus, in view of the substantial showing her e that E.H.B.
    by upholding Penn Fuel's and CNGT's position on the 30
    Issues might well reach a result that would be preempted,
    the process preemption claim is ripe. Of course, we hasten
    to add that we do not state a conclusion on whether the
    process actually is preempted here for, as even NE Hub
    recognizes, the district court should make that decision on
    the remand. See Presbytery of N.J. , 40 F.3d at 1470.18
    C. The need for FERC rehearing
    Finally we reject the district court's and appellees' view
    that NE Hub by bringing this action was circumventing
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    17. Federal law includes federal regulations, which have no less
    preemptive effect than federal statutes. See e.g., Capital Cities Cable,
    Inc.
    v. Crisp, 
    467 U.S. 691
    , 699, 
    104 S. Ct. 2694
    , 2700 (1984).
    18. Our opinion should not be overread. W e are not holding that any
    claim of process preemption necessarily is ripe so that the court should
    consider the preemption claim before the process is completed. It well
    may be that in a particular case when conflict pr eemption is implicated
    the court may conclude that it reasonably can be anticipated that the
    process will yield a result that is not pr eempted. But in this case we
    have an unusual situation in which the state administrator has
    stipulated the agency's jurisdiction effectively has been preempted, a
    result which, though not binding on the appellees, if accepted would
    mean that a successful administrative appeal would lead to a preempted
    outcome.
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    FERC's rehearing process. In the first place, the district
    court reached that conclusion on the err oneous theory that
    NE Hub was contending "that Pennsylvania lacks authority
    to subject the NE Hub Project to any regulation
    whatsoever." NE Hub, slip op. at 18. In fact, NE Hub does
    not challenge FERC's requirement that it obtain state
    permits and cooperate with state and local agencies.
    Indeed, it has done these things. It simply contends that
    the E.H.B. state proceedings are pr eempted but only to the
    extent that they involve the 30 Issues consider ed by FERC.
    We see nothing in the Certificate or the NGA that precludes
    NE Hub's preemption argument and it ther efore follows that
    in making that argument NE Hub is not challenging the
    terms of the Certificate. Furthermor e, we do not believe
    that a requirement that a party obtain applicable state
    permits and cooperate with state and local agencies in any
    way determines the scope of what issues a state
    administrative agency may consider on an appeal fr om the
    issuance of the permits.19
    V. CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons we will r everse the order of
    April 7, 2000, dismissing this action and will r emand the
    case to the district court to reinstate this action. On the
    remand the district court should consider the preemption
    argument on the merits unless it upholds another defense
    to this action.
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    19. The dissent characterizes NE Hub's claim as a challenge to the terms
    of the Certificate because the E.H.B. proceeding is one "that FERC
    implicitly sanctioned." Dissent at 40. But the dissent does not explain
    where in the Certificate FERC "implicitly sanctioned" a state proceeding
    insofar as it deals with measures already disposed of by FERC.
    Judge Nygaard states that he and we "disagr ee over who should
    determine whether the state actions at issue were ``consistent' with
    FERC's certificate. The Majority believes that FERC delegated that
    authority to the federal courts. I believe that FERC maintained its
    discretion." Dissent 32 n.5. Federal agencies do not "delegate" authority
    to decide federal constitutional and legal questions to courts; as noted
    above, at 37, federal court jurisdiction over such matters comes from
    Congress. We are aware of no authority granting FERC a right of first
    refusal to decide such questions, nor does Judge Nygaard proffer any.
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    NYGAARD, Circuit Judge, dissenting :
    I would affirm the District Court's disposition of N.E.
    Hub's field preemption claim. Therefor e, I dissent. Central
    to the Majority's holding is its assertion that"we need not
    characterize definitively the type of preemption implicated
    here." Majority at 21. I believe that characterizing N.E.
    Hub's claim is the first and most important issue in this
    case. By failing to resolve it, the Majority ignores binding
    Supreme Court precedent and unnecessarily complicates a
    well-settled area of law. Especially tr oubling are its
    proposal of a new class of "hybrid" pr eemption, and its
    reference to a mysterious "process" preemption.
    Congress intended to occupy the field of law at issue.
    Therefore, the disputed appeals ar e subject to federal field
    preemption. Nonetheless, I would affir m the District Court's
    decision, because FERC properly exercised its
    congressionally delegated authority by r equiring compliance
    with state permitting procedures. More importantly, even if
    FERC overstepped its bounds, the proper course for N.E.
    Hub would have been to challenge FERC directly under the
    guidelines established by federal statute. Because N.E. Hub
    failed to do so, I agree with the District Court that we lack
    jurisdiction to consider the current claim.
    I.
    A brief review of the law of preemption is instructive.
    Assuming it has the constitutional power to legislate in a
    given area, Congress can preempt state law whenever it
    intends federal law to control. See Fr eehold Cogeneration
    Assocs., L.P. v. Board of Regulatory Comm'rs of State of New
    Jersey, 
    44 F.3d 1178
    , 1190 (3d Cir . 1995) ("[T]he
    application of the preemption doctrine r equires a
    determination of congressional intent in enacting a federal
    law."). The key inquiry is congressional intent, which can
    either be explicit or implied. When it is implied, intent can
    take one of two forms. First, "[i]f Congress evidences an
    intent to occupy a given field, any state law falling within
    that field is preempted." Silkwood v. Kerr-McGee Corp., 
    464 U.S. 238
    , 248, 
    104 S. Ct. 615
    , 621 (1984). Congr essional
    intent to occupy a field can be inferred fr om:
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    a ``scheme of federal regulation so pervasive as to make
    reasonable the inference that Congr ess left no room to
    supplement it,' ``because the Act of Congr ess may touch
    a field in which the federal interest is so dominant that
    the federal system will be assumed to preclude
    enforcement of state laws on the same subject,' or
    because ``the object sought to be obtained by the federal
    law and the character of obligations imposed by it may
    reveal the same purpose.'
    Pacific Gas & Elec. Co. v. State Energy Res. Conservation &
    Dev. Comm'n, 
    461 U.S. 190
    , 204, 
    103 S. Ct. 1713
    , 1722
    (1983). Second, if Congress has not occupied an entire
    field, "state law is still preempted to the extent it actually
    conflicts with federal law, that is, when it is impossible to
    comply with both state and federal law." 
    Id. In sum,
    there are three circumstances under which
    federal law preempts state law: (1) when Congr ess, through
    explicit statutory language, defines an ar ea in which federal
    law controls, (2) when Congress implicitly indicates an
    intent to occupy a given field to the exclusion of state law,
    and (3) when federal law actually conflicts with state law.
    See Cipollone v. Liggett Group, Inc., 
    505 U.S. 504
    , 516, 
    112 S. Ct. 2608
    , 2617 (1992); Buzzard v. Roadrunner Trucking,
    Inc., 
    966 F.2d 777
    , 780 (3d Cir. 1992). We have consistently
    analyzed preemption claims according to this framework.
    See Abdullah v. American Airlines, 181 F .3d 363, 367 (3d
    Cir. 1999).
    II.
    Next, I turn to N.E. Hub's specific claim. In Schneidewind
    v. ANR Pipeline Co., the Supreme Court held that Congress
    intended to occupy the field at issue.1 See 
    485 U.S. 293
    ,
    308, 
    108 S. Ct. 1145
    , 1155 (1988) ("[T]he control of rates
    and facilities of natural gas companies . . . ar e precisely the
    things over which FERC has comprehensive authority.").
    The Court noted that it "is now well settled[that] Congress
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    1. Because Congress failed to describe explicitly the extent to which the
    NGA preempts state regulation of natural gas facilities, the first of the
    aforementioned circumstances (expr ess preemption) does not apply.
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    occupied the field of matters relating to wholesale sales and
    transportation of natural gas in interstate commer ce." 
    Id. at 305,
    108 S.Ct. at 1153. An overwhelming amount of
    authority supports this assertion.2 Even in Maritimes &
    Northeast Pipeline, L.L.C., No. CP97-238-001, 
    1997 WL 812154
    , at *8 (F.E.R.C. Nov. 4, 1997), the case most heavily
    relied upon by CNGT and Penn Fuel, FERC noted that "the
    NGA preempts State and local agencies fr om regulating the
    construction and operation of interstate pipeline facilities."
    It is simply beyond peradventure that Congr ess intended
    the NGA to occupy the field of law at issue.
    Both the Majority and the District Court disagr ee and
    hold that field preemption does not apply. The District
    Court expressly rejected field pr eemption, but nonetheless
    addressed and rejected the claim on its merits. The
    Majority purports to avoid categorizing the claim, but still
    implicitly endorses conflict preemption. I believe that field
    preemption does apply, but I agree with the District Court
    that the claim fails on its merits. This is an important
    question. If field preemption applies but FERC validly
    exercised its authority, we should affir m the District
    Court's decision and not remand the case. Fundamentally,
    the resolution of this question -- whetherfield preemption
    applies -- controls whether this case is r emanded or
    affirmed. I therefore review the opinions of the Majority and
    District Court in turn.
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    2. See e.g., Interstate Natural Gas Co. v. Federal Power Comm'n, 
    331 U.S. 682
    , 690, 
    67 S. Ct. 1482
    , 1487 (1947) ("As was stated in the House
    Committee Report, the ``basic purpose' of Congr ess in passing the Natural
    Gas Act was "to occupy this field in which the Supreme Court has held
    that the States may not act."); Pennsylvania Medical Soc'y v. Marconis,
    
    942 F.2d 842
    , 847 (3d Cir. 1991) ("The field of matters relating to
    wholesale sales and transport of natural gas in interstate commerce
    [has] been occupied by federal legislation."); Public Utils. Comm'n of
    State
    of California v. FERC, 
    900 F.2d 269
    , 274 (D.C. Cir. 1990) ("Cases are
    legion affirming the exclusive character of FERC jurisdiction where it
    applies . . . under the NGA."); Algonquin LNG v. Loqa, 
    79 F. Supp. 2d 49
    ,
    51 (D.R.I. 2000) ("Congress clearly has manifested an intent to occupy
    the field.").
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    A.
    The Majority at first seems to agree with me that field
    preemption should apply. It states that "[t]he district court
    [held] that this case does not involve field occupation. We,
    however, strongly doubt that the district court was correct."
    Majority at 21 (emphasis added). The Majority fails to apply
    field preemption, however, and instead holds that "we need
    not characterize definitively the type of pr eemption
    implicated here to determine ripeness." Majority at 21. In
    spite of this, I believe that the Majority tacitly does
    characterize N.E. Hub's claim. It rejects field preemption
    and endorses conflict preemption, even though its
    reasoning assumes that Congress has occupied the field.
    The District Court's decision requires us to categorize the
    claim in this case, because it addressed N.E. Hub's two
    preemption "theories" and reached different outcomes for
    each. The court held that conflict preemption was not ripe,
    but rejected field preemption on separate grounds.3 The
    Majority states that ripeness "is the only issue before us."
    Majority at 21. The District Court discussed ripeness only
    in connection to conflict preemption. Ther efore, the
    Majority's opinion, to the extent that it exclusively focuses
    on ripeness, holds that only conflict preemption is at issue.
    Furthermore, because courts need only address conflict
    preemption in the absence of field pr eemption, see
    
    Silkwood, 464 U.S. at 248
    , 104 S.Ct. at 621 ("If Congress
    has not entirely displaced state regulation over the matter
    in question, state law is still preempted to the extent it
    actually conflicts with federal law."), the Majority's focus on
    ripeness tacitly rejects field preemption. If field preemption
    applied, there would be no reason to analyze the ripeness
    of the conflict preemption claim.4 In fact, the Majority
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    3. The District Court explicitly addressed the field preemption claim, "NE
    Hub's alternative theory, that Pennsylvania lacks authority to subject the
    NE Hub Project to any regulation whatsoever." MemOp. at 18. The court
    characterized the claim as a direct "challenge to the express provisions
    of [FERC's] 7(c) certificate," and found that it lacked jurisdiction
    because
    N.E. Hub should have appealed directly to FERC. MemOp. at 18.
    4. The Majority argues that we need not categorize the preemption claim
    in order to analyze its ripeness. However , the District Court only found
    ripeness lacking in the conflict preemption claim; therefore, we need not
    address ripeness unless the claim is one of conflict preemption.
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    explicitly holds that N.E. Hub never raised a field
    preemption claim. See Majority at 26. Thus, even though it
    "strongly doubt[s] that the district court was correct [to
    reject field preemption]," Majority at 21, the Majority rejects
    it as well.
    Instead, the Majority suggests that we have a "hybrid
    situation" in which "there is field occupation but FERC . . .
    has converted the case into a conflict preemption matter."
    Majority at 21-22 n.13. I disagree with this characterization
    for two reasons. First, neither law nor logic suggests the
    existence of such a thing, and second, for r easons I explain
    more fully in Section 
    II.B., supra
    , FERC does not have the
    authority to abdicate its congressionally delegated authority.5
    In addition, I fail to see how this "hybrid" differs practically
    from pure conflict preemption considering that FERC "has
    converted the case into a conflict pr eemption matter."
    Majority at 21-22 n.13 (emphasis added). If a "hybrid"
    preemption claim carries with it a differ ent standard, the
    Majority does not describe what it might be. For these
    reasons, I believe that the Majority, in spite of its language
    to the contrary, tacitly did categorize N.E. Hub's claim as
    conflict preemption, and the District Court must apply that
    doctrine upon remand.
    The Majority offers two additional arguments to support
    its position: (1) field and conflict preemption overlap and
    are difficult to distinguish, and (2) the existence of a legal
    process can form the basis of a field or conflict preemption
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    5. The Majority believes that FERC delegated its occupation of the
    field, at least in part, to the states. Ther efore, any "conflicts"
    that
    arose could form the basis of a conflict preemption claim in
    federal
    court. The important difference between us is that I believe FERC
    continued to maintain its ultimate authority. Because it continued
    to occupy the field, it maintained its discr etion to interpret the
    terms of its 7(c) certificate. If an alleged"conflict" arose, it
    was up
    to FERC to determine if the certificate had been violated. Our
    review
    of such a decision would be the same as our r eview of any other
    action by an administrative agency in an occupiedfield. In sum, the
    Majority and I disagree over who should deter mine whether the
    state actions at issue were "consistent" with FERC's certificate.
    The
    Majority believes that FERC delegated that authority to the federal
    courts. I believe that FERC maintained its discr etion.
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    claim. See Majority at 24-25. When r eviewed carefully,
    neither support the Majority's holding; in fact, both
    ironically assume that Congress has pr eempted the field.
    First, the Majority argues that it need not characterize
    N.E. Hub's claim, because field and conflict pr eemption are
    not "rigidly distinct," see English v. General Elec. Co., 
    496 U.S. 72
    , 79 n.5, 
    110 S. Ct. 2270
    , 2275 n.5 (1990), 6
    implying, based upon its definitions, that field and conflict
    preemption are indistinguishable. T echnically, all forms of
    federal preemption can be described as (and meet the
    definition of) conflict preemption,7 for the simple reason
    that preemption only occurs when a state action conflicts
    with congressional intent.8 In spite of its extremely broad
    definition, however, conflict preemption does not refer to the
    entire range of all federal preemption. Instead, courts use
    the term quite narrowly -- it applies when a state
    regulation conflicts with federal law in a non-occupied field.9
    See 
    Silkwood, 464 U.S. at 248
    , 104 S.Ct. at 621 ("If
    Congress has not entirely displaced state regulation over
    the matter in question, state law is still pr eempted to the
    extent it actually conflicts with federal law.").
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    6. The Supreme Court footnote from which the Majority derives its
    argument nonetheless explicitly upheld the thr ee categories of
    preemption. See 
    English, 496 U.S. at 79
    n.5, 110 S. Ct. at 2275 
    n.5
    ("[B]ecause we previously have adverted to the three-category framework,
    we invoke and apply it here.").
    7. According to its broad definition, conflict preemption applies whenever
    a state regulation "actually conflicts with federal law, that is, when it
    is
    impossible to comply with both state and federal law, or where the state
    law stands as an obstacle to the accomplishment of the full purposes
    and objectives of Congress." See 
    Silkwood, 464 U.S. at 248
    , 104 S.Ct. at
    621 (citations omitted); see also e.g., 
    English, 496 U.S. at 79
    , 110 S.Ct.
    at 2275 (citations omitted).
    8. Courts have identified, and labeled, thr ee forms of federal preemption
    (express, field, and conflict preemption) that vary according to their
    scope. According to the Supreme Court,"[f]requently, the preemptive
    ``label' we choose will carry with it substantive implications for the
    scope
    of preemption." Gade v. National Solid W aste Mgmt. Ass'n, 
    505 U.S. 88
    ,
    104 n.2, 
    112 S. Ct. 2374
    , 2386 n.2 (1992).
    9. Conflict preemption in an occupiedfield would be unnecessary and
    duplicative, because all state regulation is barred by field preemption.
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    The Majority fails to make this distinction. It compares
    the definitions of conflict and field preemption and argues
    that field preemption is simply a presumption of conflict
    preemption over an entire area of law.10 Because all three
    categories of federal preemption technically fall within the
    definition of conflict preemption, any state regulation (or
    judicial proceeding, as in this case) subject to field
    preemption would also be barred under the technical
    definition of conflict preemption. See 
    English, 496 U.S. at 79
    , 110 S.Ct. at 2275 (defining conflict pr eemption, in part,
    to apply when "state law ``stands as an obstacle to the
    accomplishment and execution of the full purposes and
    objectives of Congress' ").
    However -- and this is the critical point -- in this case,
    the only reason that the challenged state actions (the
    appeals) satisfy the definition of conflict pr eemption is
    because Congress has preempted thefield. The Majority
    never asserts that the appeals at issue make it"impossible
    to comply with both state and federal law," but merely that
    they frustrate congressional intent to legislate exclusively in
    this area. In other words, as the Majority phrases it,
    conflict preemption holds because the state proceedings
    "interfere with the purposes and objectives of the federal
    plan." Majority at 24. The "federal plan," I suppose, refers
    to Congress' intent to occupy the field at issue. Thus, the
    Majority's argument, when closely scrutinized, goes
    something like this: (1) Congress preempted the field, and
    (2) the appeals at issue constitute state action within that
    field; therefore, (3) the appeals conflict with congressional
    intent to legislate exclusively. The Majority's r easoning
    implicitly recognizes that Congress intended to occupy the
    field at issue. As such, I would affix the pr oper "label" to
    N.E. Hub's preemption claim. When a state law"conflicts"
    with "the purposes and objectives" of Congr ess to occupy a
    given field, courts label it field, notconflict, preemption.11
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    10. See e.g., 
    English, 496 U.S. at 79
    n.5, 110 S. Ct. at 2275 
    n.5 ("[F]ield
    preemption may be understood as a species of conflict preemption: A
    state law that falls within a preempted field conflicts with Congress'
    intent (either express or plainly implied) to exclude state regulation.").
    11. In a footnote, the Majority claims that "by no means do we mean to
    obliterate the distinction between the types of pr eemption, and we
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    The Majority's second argument further underscores its
    implicit recognition that Congress has pr eempted the field.12
    The Majority argues that it need not classify the claim at
    issue, because either field or conflict pr eemption can bar a
    legal process such as the appeals in this case.13 See
    Majority at 23 ("[T]he process pr eemption cases do not
    confine themselves to the field occupation context."). The
    Majority cites no case in which any court has held that
    conflict preemption bars an unfinished legal process with
    an indeterminate outcome. I too was unable tofind such a
    case.14
    The only scenario in which I can possibly envision
    conflict preemption barring an on-going legal proceeding is
    one in which the outcome sought by the party opposing
    preemption is certain to conflict with federal law. In other
    words, for conflict preemption to apply, the relief sought by
    CNGT and Penn Fuel would have to conflict totally with
    FERC's 7(c) certificate. This is not the case. It is entirely
    possible that the Environmental Hearing Boar d could, as a
    result of the appeals at issue, impose additional
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    recognize the continuing existence of each." Majority at 24 n.16.
    However, if we need not classify the pr eemption claim in this case, in
    spite of Supreme Court precedent explicitly holding that Congress has
    occupied the field, I fail to see how the distinction retains any force.
    12. For the remainder of this dissent, I r efer to conflict preemption in
    the
    manner that courts apply it (in a non-occupied field) rather than
    according to its sweeping definition, which encompasses all forms of
    federal preemption.
    13. I assume that when the Majority uses the ter m "process preemption,"
    it is referring to a federal preemption claim based upon an ongoing legal
    process. Unlike conflict or field preemption, "process preemption" is not
    a term of art; in fact, a Westlaw search revealed that no federal court
    has
    ever used the term.
    14. The Majority relies upon two unsupported assertions: (1) its own
    belief that "certain regulatory acts clearly would conflict with federal
    law,
    and it is as logical to preempt state pr ocess concerning such matters as
    state actions in occupied fields," and (2) a statement by the
    administrator of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental
    Protection that the agency lacked jurisdiction to "conduct final
    appealability decisionmaking" in this matter . Majority at 23.
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    requirements on N.E. Hub that would not conflict with the
    7(c) certificate.15
    In sum, the Majority purports to avoid categorizing N.E.
    Hub's claim. In reality, however, it r ejects field preemption
    and requires the District Court to apply conflict preemption
    upon remand, even though its reasoning assumes that
    Congress has occupied the field. Accor ding to the Supreme
    Court, conflict preemption should be applied only if
    "Congress has not entirely displaced state regulation over
    the matter in question" explicitly or thr ough implied field
    preemption. 
    Silkwood, 464 U.S. at 248
    , 104 S.Ct. at 621. In
    this case, the overwhelming weight of Supreme Court
    precedent indicates that Congress intended the NGA to
    occupy the field at issue. As a result, I disagree with the
    Majority's approach and would instead applyfield
    preemption.
    B.
    The District Court addressed the classification issue
    explicitly. It held that field preemption does not apply,
    because FERC had affirmatively limited its own jurisdiction.
    It noted that "[a]lthough the Natural Gas Act might be read
    to completely preempt any state regulation of the transport,
    storage and sale of natural gas in interstate commer ce,
    FERC has interpreted its jurisdiction under the Natural Gas
    Act to allow for some state regulation." MemOp. at 13. In
    effect, the District Court held that FERC r efused to occupy
    the given field and instead partially delegated its
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    15. The Majority states that conflict pr eemption bars "the process with
    respect to the 30 Issues," because its outcome is "almost certain to
    conflict with federal law." Majority at 23 n.14. In practice, I seriously
    doubt that a court could effectively isolate state proceedings likely to
    lead to conflicting outcomes from those that could possibly lead to
    "additional requirements . . . that donot conflict with the 7(c)
    certificate."
    Majority at 23 n.14. Forcing courts to do so would in effect require them
    to predict the outcomes of unfinished legal proceedings in separate
    jurisdictions. I suspect that this difficulty explains why courts have
    widely refused to apply conflict preemption to bar an ongoing state
    process, and have instead relied uponfield preemption when it is
    appropriate.
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    responsibilities to the states. The Majority seems to endorse
    this conclusion hesitantly in a footnote, ter ming this case a
    "hybrid" situation. See Majority at 21 n.13.
    The District Court's analysis, and the Majority's r eference
    to it, is flawed. Admittedly, Chevron v. NRDC, 
    467 U.S. 837
    ,
    842-43, 
    104 S. Ct. 2778
    , 2781-82 (1984), often r equires
    courts to defer to an agency's statutory interpr etation, and
    we have held that Chevron defer ence extends to an agency's
    interpretation of its own jurisdiction. See Puerto Rico Mar.
    Shipping Auth. v. Valley Freight Sys., Inc., 
    856 F.2d 546
    ,
    552 (3d Cir. 1988) ("This rule of defer ence is fully applicable
    to an agency's interpretation of its own jurisdiction.").
    However, courts need only defer to an agency when the
    intent of Congress is unclear. See 
    Chevron, 467 U.S. at 842
    -
    
    43, 104 S. Ct. at 2781-82
    ("If the intent of Congr ess is clear,
    that is the end of the matter.").16 Here, as previously
    discussed, the intent of Congress to occupy the entire field
    is, and has been for decades, clearly established by the
    Supreme Court. As a result, FERC could not limit its
    jurisdiction in the face of contrary, clear congr essional
    intent. See 
    id. at 843
    n.9, 104 S. Ct. at 2781 
    n.9 ("The
    judiciary is the final authority on issues of statutory
    construction and must reject administrative constructions
    which are contrary to clear congressional intent.").
    Furthermore, based upon my reading of Maritimes, FERC
    did not intend to restrict its jurisdiction. See 
    1997 WL 812154
    , at *8. Quite the contrary - it exer cised its wide-
    ranging jurisdiction in order to requir e that natural gas
    companies comply with state regulations as a condition to
    granting a 7(c) certificate. After reaffir ming the NGA's
    preemption of state and local regulation, FERC stated that
    "as a matter of policy, . . . the Commission has imposed
    upon applicants a requirement that they cooperate with
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    16. See also Neal v. United States, 
    516 U.S. 284
    , 295, 
    116 S. Ct. 763
    , 769
    (1996) ("Absent . . . compelling evidence bearing on Congress' original
    intent, our system demands that we adhere to our prior interpretations
    of statutes."); Maislin Indus., U.S., Inc. v. Primary Steel, Inc., 
    497 U.S. 116
    , 131, 
    110 S. Ct. 2759
    , 2768 (1990) ("Once we have determined a
    statute's clear meaning, we adhere to that determination under the
    doctrine of stare decisis, and we judge an agency's later interpretation
    of
    the statute against our prior determination of the statute's meaning.").
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    State and local authorities." 
    Id. (emphasis added).
    FERC did
    not limit its own jurisdiction, but rather used its authority
    to implement a policy objective. If it had, in fact, abdicated
    its jurisdiction, it would have been unable to impose state
    regulations upon anyone.
    It is undisputed by both the Majority and the District
    Court that Congress intended federal law to occupy the
    entire field at issue. Because neither FERC nor this Court
    have the discretion to contravene clear congr essional
    intent, field preemption should apply. The ripeness of N.E.
    Hub's conflict preemption claim is ther efore irrelevant.
    III.
    Finally, I address the merits of N.E. Hub'sfield
    preemption claim. First of all, it is clearly ripe. We require
    that a claim satisfy three elements in or der to be ripe for
    decision: "adversity of the interests of the parties,
    conclusiveness of the judicial judgment and the practical
    help, or utility, of that judgment." Step-Saver Data Systems,
    Inc. v. WYSE Technology, 
    912 F.2d 643
    , 647 (3d Cir. 1990).
    All three are satisfied. The state pr oceedings themselves
    constitute an injury establishing adversity of inter est. See
    Sayles Hydro Assocs. v. Maughan, 985 F .2d 451, 454 (9th
    Cir. 1993) (holding that in the field preemption context,
    "[t]he hardship is the process itself.").17 A decree indicating
    that FERC's 7(c) certificate preempted all state regulation of
    N.E. Hub's project would be "conclusive" under any
    definition of the term, see Step-Saver , 912 F.2d at 648, and
    it would be "useful," because it would allow N.E. Hub to
    proceed with its project. See id.
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    17. See also 
    Freehold, 44 F.3d at 1189
    (holding that a field preemption
    claim was ripe because "the plaintiff did not challenge the state's
    ultimate substantive decision, but rather its authority to conduct
    proceedings."); Middle South Ener gy, Inc. v. Arkansas Pub. Serv. Comm'n,
    
    772 F.2d 404
    , 410-11 (8th Cir. 1985) (claim ripe where the plaintiff
    "challenges not the state's ultimate substantive decision but its
    authority
    to even conduct the contemplated proceeding. It can hardly be doubted
    that a controversy sufficiently concr ete for judicial review exists when
    the proceeding sought to be enjoined is alr eady in progress.").
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    Apparently, the District Court agreed that if field
    preemption applied, N.E. Hub's claim was ripe. After a
    lengthy and unnecessary discussion of the ripeness of the
    conflict preemption claim, it moved immediately to the
    merits of the field preemption claim (without discussing its
    ripeness). The court held that the claim failed on its merits:
    NE Hub's alternative theory, that Pennsylvania lacks
    authority to subject NE Hub Project to any r egulation
    whatsoever, must also fail on jurisdictional grounds.
    Such an attack constitutes a challenge to the expr ess
    provisions of the 7(c) certificate issued by FERC to NE
    Hub, which clearly contemplate and even direct NE
    Hub's compliance with state regulation. As pointed out
    by Defendants CNGT and Penn Fuel in their motions to
    dismiss, the Court lacks jurisdiction over such a
    challenge to the 7(c) certificate, as NE Hub failed to
    apply to FERC for a rehearing of its April 29, 1998
    Order issuing the 7(c) certificate.
    MemOp. at 18-19 (citations omitted). I agree with the
    Court's reasoning and outcome, but it would be helpful to
    elaborate further. FERC's 7(c) certificate required
    compliance with state and local regulations. Specifically, it
    stated that:
    Any state or local permits issued with r espect to the
    jurisdictional facilities authorized herein must be
    consistent with the conditions of this certificate. The
    Commission encourages cooperation between interstate
    pipelines and local authorities. However, this does not
    mean that state and local agencies, through
    application of state or local laws, may prohibit or
    unreasonably delay the construction or operation of
    facilities by this Commission.
    J.A. at 109. The District Court interpreted this language to
    require that N.E. Hub obtain "any and all necessary state
    or local permits required to carry out the drilling and
    construction program." MemOp. at 5. In addition, the 7(c)
    certificate also contained a number of mor e specific
    provisions that required compliance with individual state
    regulations. See MemOp. at 14-15.
    38
    FERC's discretion in granting a 7(c) certificate is far-
    reaching. Section 717f(e) of the NGA pr ovides that, "[t]he
    Commission shall have the power to attach to the issuance
    of the certificate and to the exercise of the rights granted
    thereunder such reasonable terms and conditions as the
    public convenience and necessity may requir e." 15 U.S.C.
    S 717f(e). Under this authority, FERC r equired compliance
    with state and local regulations as long as they did not
    "prohibit or unreasonably delay the construction or
    operation of [the] facilities." J.A. at 109. FERC did not
    abdicate its jurisdiction; it exercised it.
    This interpretation is consistent with FERC's discussion
    of state regulations in Maritimes, 
    1997 WL 812154
    , at *8.
    In that case, FERC described its "requir ement" that
    applicants cooperate with state and local authorities as
    being something it had "imposed" as "a matter of policy." 
    Id. A plain
    reading suggests that FERC was simply exercising
    its wide jurisdiction over the field, requiring applicants to
    comply with state and local regulations that impose
    additional, non-conflicting measures. W ere an actual
    conflict to arise, FERC noted that its decisions would
    control.
    FERC could have required, subsequent to its S 717f(e)
    authority, that applicants comply with conditions identical
    to those found in state regulations. It is unclear why, and
    indeed N.E. Hub has failed to argue that, r equiring
    compliance with state regulations that impose potentially
    non-conflicting conditions would be outside FERC's
    authority. Even if it were, as the District Court held, N.E.
    Hub's proper course would have been to challenge the
    validity of FERC's 7(c) certificate by seeking a r ehearing
    within thirty days of its issuance. See 15 U.S.C. S 717r(a).
    It failed to do so. N.E. Hub cannot now collaterally attack
    FERC's authority under S 717f(e) by challenging a state
    appellate process that FERC implicitly sanctioned. See City
    of Tacoma v. Taxpayers of Tacoma, 
    357 U.S. 320
    , 335-36,
    
    78 S. Ct. 1209
    , 1218-19 (1958); Williams Natural Gas Co. v.
    City of Oklahoma City, 
    890 F.2d 255
    , 262 (10th Cir. 1989)
    ("[A] challenger may not collaterally attack the validity of a
    prior FERC order in a subsequent proceeding . . . whether
    the collateral action is brought in state court or federal
    court.").
    39
    IV.
    I would affirm the District Court's decision based upon
    its disposition of the one legitimate claim at issue - N.E.
    Hub's argument that the state proceedings at issue are field
    preempted by FERC's 7(c) certificate. Field preemption does
    apply, but FERC exercised its wide-ranging authority to
    require compliance with state regulations. Because N.E.
    Hub failed to challenge FERC's authority dir ectly, it cannot
    now challenge the 7(c) certificate in this Court. The District
    Court properly held that it lacked jurisdiction over the
    claims at issue, and as a result, N.E. Hub's claims were
    properly dismissed.
    A True Copy:
    Teste:
    Clerk of the United States Court of Appeals
    for the Third Circuit
    40
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 00-3387

Citation Numbers: 239 F.3d 333, 2001 WL 76280

Judges: Nygaard, Greenberg, Cowen

Filed Date: 1/29/2001

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 11/4/2024

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