United States v. Rickey Beene ( 2018 )


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  •      Case: 17-30383      Document: 00514456108         Page: 1    Date Filed: 05/02/2018
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    No. 17-30383                            FILED
    May 2, 2018
    Lyle W. Cayce
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                                                     Clerk
    Plaintiff - Appellee
    v.
    RICKEY NIKKI BEENE,
    Defendant - Appellant
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Western District of Louisiana
    USDC No. 5:13-CR-39-1
    Before KING, HAYNES, and HIGGINSON, Circuit Judges.
    KING, Circuit Judge:*
    For the second time, Rickey Nikki Beene asks us to review the legality
    of a warrantless search of a car parked in his driveway and the admissibility
    of an incriminating statement he made to police. Last time around, we
    withheld judgment on both issues and remanded. We reasoned that both issues
    turned on a question of fact not passed upon below—whether exigencies
    justified the warrantless car search. United States v. Beene, 
    818 F.3d 157
    , 165
    * Pursuant to 5TH CIR. R. 47.5, the court has determined that this opinion should not
    be published and is not precedent except under the limited circumstances set forth in 5TH
    CIR. R. 47.5.4.
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    (5th Cir. 2016). On remand, the district court found the car search was justified
    by exigency and stuck by its original ruling that Beene’s statement is
    admissible. Satisfied with both rulings, we AFFIRM.
    I.
    On the evening of June 1, 2012, at around quarter past six, officers of the
    Haynesville, Louisiana, Police Department were alerted via a Claiborne Parish
    Sherriff’s Office dispatcher that Rickey Nikki Beene was near an apartment
    complex on Mill Street “pointing a gun at people.” Several Haynesville police
    officers responded to the call and headed towards Mill Street in separate cars.
    Two minutes after the original call, while the officers were en route, the
    dispatcher informed them that Beene had left Mill Street in a gray Honda
    Accord.
    One of the responding officers, Danny Mills, knew who Beene was and
    where he lived. Previously, Mills had received tips that Beene sold drugs. He
    also had heard from other officers that Beene had been arrested before. Upon
    learning of Beene’s flight from Mill Street, Mills headed towards Beene’s
    house.
    At the time, Beene lived in a trailer-house sitting on the northeast corner
    of an intersection of a state highway and a one-lane road. This house parallels
    the highway and its front door faces the highway. A gravel driveway feeds off
    the one-lane road and runs behind the house. This driveway is boxed-in on
    three sides by two wood fences and the house itself.
    Mills approached Beene’s house from the highway. As he passed the
    front of the house, he spotted a silver Lincoln Continental parked in the front
    yard with a woman sitting inside. Turning left onto the road, Mills’s patrol car
    came face to face with a gray Honda Accord driven by Beene coming the other
    direction. Before Mills could flash his police lights, Beene pulled into his
    driveway. Mills pulled up sideways behind him, blocking the driveway’s outlet.
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    Both men got out of their cars. Mills ordered Beene to put his hands on
    the Honda’s trunk. Beene instead started walking towards Mills. Mills ordered
    Beene to get on the ground several times and then unholstered his Taser. At
    that point, Beene complied and got on the ground.
    Before Mills could handcuff Beene, the woman from the car in the front
    yard—who Mills now recognized as Beene’s wife, Shauntae Heard—came
    running around the corner of the house. Mills thought, “she was fixing to try
    to take me out.” Mills commanded her to stop. Heard complied, “but she did
    not stop hollering.” Another officer, Trent Crook, who had rolled up as Beene
    was getting on the ground, helped Mills handcuff Beene. Beene was given the
    Miranda warning and placed in the back of a police car. According to the police-
    dispatch log, Beene was in custody within six minutes of the original dispatch
    call.
    With Beene secure, Mills turned his attention to Heard, who was “still a
    little irate” but “had settled down somewhat.” Heard told Mills that the Honda
    was hers, that there was no gun in it, and that she would not consent to a
    search. By this point, another officer, Rickey Goode, had arrived in a separate
    car. Mills brought Goode up to speed on the situation—that Heard would not
    consent to a search of the Honda. Goode retrieved his drug-sniffing dog from
    his car and walked it around the Honda. It alerted to the car. Goode and Mills
    searched the car, which was unlocked. Inside, they found three small bags of
    marijuana, a small bag of crack-cocaine, and $900 in cash. The officers then
    opened the car’s center console, where they found a loaded .380 caliber
    handgun.
    By then, Chief Anthony Smith had joined the other officers on the scene.
    He and Trent Crook were standing near Shauntae Heard when she had what
    looked like a seizure and collapsed. Medical personnel were summoned. But
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    when they arrived, Heard refused any treatment. Afterwards, Heard was put
    in the back of a patrol car, unhandcuffed and with the door open.
    Chief Smith then summoned Claiborne Parish Detective Adrian Malone
    to the scene, and the two talked to Heard. After the conversation, Smith
    announced to the other officers that he had obtained her consent to search the
    house. Smith would later say that Heard signed a consent form in his and
    Malone’s presence. Hidden in the house, the officers found more drugs
    (specifically, a larger bag of marijuana, a pill bottle filled with crack-cocaine, a
    small bag of cocaine, and a small bag of methamphetamines) and a digital
    scale.
    After the house search, Beene and Heard were driven to the Haynesville
    police station. Sitting in cuffs at the station, Beene started talking to no one in
    particular. Detective Malone heard Beene say that he carried the gun around
    that day because he felt threatened by another man. Beene was then
    interrogated by Malone. Part of this interrogation was recorded. At the start
    of the recording and outside of Beene’s presence, Malone explained his plan for
    the interrogation: ask Beene why he had the gun, try to get a statement, and
    see if Beene would cooperate. Malone then entered the interrogation room
    where Beene was being read his Miranda rights by another officer.
    Malone began the interrogation by claiming that Beene had already
    admitted that he had the gun in question. Malone added that he intended to
    question people living near the Mill Street apartment complex who had
    reportedly seen Beene waving the gun. Beene explained that he had the gun
    that day because he felt threatened by another man who had fronted him drugs
    and now wanted them back.
    Beene was indicted for being a felon in possession of a firearm,
    possession of marijuana, cocaine, crack, and methamphetamine all with intent
    to distribute, and possession of a firearm in connection with a drug-trafficking
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    crime. To keep out the relevant evidence of all three offenses, Beene moved to
    suppress all the drugs, the gun, and his incriminating statements.
    The district court held three days of hearings on the motion, taking
    testimony from the various officers and Shauntae Heard. After the hearing,
    the court suppressed all the drugs found in Beene’s house, concluding that
    Heard’s consent was invalid. Per the court, Chief Smith’s testimony that Heard
    had consented was dubious and there was indisputable evidence that the
    consent form Heard allegedly signed was falsified. Inexplicably, the
    Government produced two different versions of the same consent form at the
    hearing—one with Detective Malone’s signature as a witness and one without.
    But despite this deceit and misconduct, the district court did not
    suppress the drugs and gun from the Honda or Beene’s statement during the
    interrogation. 1 According to the court, the search of the Honda was a valid
    search incident to lawful traffic stop, and the statement was not tainted by the
    illegal search of Beene’s house.
    Following this ruling, Beene entered a conditional guilty plea to the
    felon-in-possession charge, reserving his right to appeal the denial of his
    suppression motion. Beene received a within-Guidelines sentence of
    96 months’ incarceration.
    On appeal, we vacated Beene’s conviction and sentence. United States v.
    Beene, 
    818 F.3d 157
    , 159 (5th Cir. 2016). We held that the warrantless car
    search could not be justified on the district court’s chosen grounds—as a search
    incident to a lawful traffic stop or arrest. 
    Id. at 161-62.
    But we withheld
    judgment on whether the car search was ultimately illegal. 
    Id. at 165.
    Instead,
    we held that the dog sniff was legal, that its alert generated probable cause to
    1The district court reserved until trial the question of whether the statement Beene
    made to no one in particular was admissible. Neither party asks us to disturb this ruling.
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    believe that drugs were in the car, and that this probable cause combined with
    exigent circumstances could potentially justify the warrantless search. 
    Id. at 162-65.
    In turn, we noted that the admissibility of Beene’s statement
    depended on the legality of the car search. 
    Id. at 165.
    Thus, we remanded to
    allow the district court to make factual findings on exigency. 
    Id. On remand,
    the district court, without additional record development,
    denied Beene’s re-urged request to suppress the items from the Honda and his
    incriminating statement. It found that the search was legal as it was supported
    by probable cause and occurred during exigent circumstances. Sticking by its
    prior ruling, the court also held that Beene’s confession at the police station
    was admissible as it was not arrived at by exploiting the illegal house search.
    Once again, Beene entered a guilty plea, reserved his right to appeal the
    suppression issue, and was sentenced to 96 months’ incarceration. Beene
    appeals once more, asking that we deem the car search illegal and his
    incriminating statement inadmissible.
    II.
    We start with the car search and whether it was justified by exigency.
    Before going forward, however, we must address a key fact dispute: what was
    Shauntae Heard’s status before and during the search of the Honda? Beene
    says she was detained at the time of the search, and thus her presence did not
    pose a risk that might justify an immediate search. The Government asks us
    to defer to the district court’s finding that Heard was detained only after the
    search occurred. Concluding that the district court’s finding was free from clear
    error, we side with the Government.
    A.
    We review the district court’s factual findings—including its ultimate
    finding of exigency—for clear error and its legal conclusions de novo. See 
    Beene, 818 F.3d at 165
    ; United States v. Massi, 
    761 F.3d 512
    , 519-20 (5th Cir. 2014).
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    Clear error occurs if we are “left with the definite and firm conviction that a
    mistake has been committed.” United States v. U.S. Gypsum Co., 
    333 U.S. 364
    ,
    395 (1948). We “must view the evidence ‘most favorably to the party prevailing
    below, except where such a view is inconsistent with the trial court’s findings
    or is clearly erroneous considering the evidence as a whole.’” United States v.
    Scroggins, 
    599 F.3d 433
    , 440 (5th Cir. 2010) (quoting United States v. Shabazz,
    
    993 F.2d 431
    , 434 (5th Cir. 1993)). And where, as here, the district court heard
    testimony and made credibility findings, our review is highly deferential.
    See United States v. Tovar, 
    719 F.3d 376
    , 384 (5th Cir. 2013).
    Beene attacks the district court’s express finding that Heard was not
    detained or arrested when the car search occurred. To show this was clear
    error, Beene relies on Chief Smith’s testimony. Smith testified that when he
    arrived on the scene, Beene was on the ground and Trent Crook was trying to
    handcuff him. At this point, according to Smith, Heard was standing nearby,
    yelling at the officers. Per Smith, he went straight up to Heard and ordered
    her to stop. When the officers carried Beene away in handcuffs, Heard began
    yelling again and started towards the other officers. When she did this, Smith
    said he detained her and started to handcuff her. When touched, Heard seized
    and fell. Emergency personnel were summoned, Heard recovered and refused
    their aid, and she was placed in the back of a patrol car. While it is not clear
    from Smith’s testimony, presumably in the interim the dog sniff and search
    occurred. Based on this testimony, Beene claims that Heard was out of
    commission when the decision to search the Honda was made.
    Beene’s reliance on Smith’s testimony is ill-placed. Smith, as the district
    court found, was a dishonest and incredible witness. His account of events,
    according to the district court, was “incredible on multiple points of legal
    significance” and failed “to comport with almost all of the other officers’
    versions of the relevant events.” To pick out just a single example, Smith swore
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    that Heard consented to the car search, even though this clashed with every
    other officer’s testimony and all the police reports. And it bears repeating that
    Smith helped falsify the house-search consent form and continued to lie about
    it at the hearing. Given these worrying circumstances, the district court was
    not required to accept anything Smith said, and the district court did not
    clearly err in refusing to credit his testimony over that of more credible
    witnesses.
    What is more, the district court had a solid reason to find Heard was not
    detained when the car was searched. This timeline accords with Danny Mills’s
    testimony. Mills agreed that Smith arrived at the scene around the time he
    and Crook were escorting Beene in handcuffs to a police car. But according to
    Mills, Smith stayed in his car until after the search. Heard had been yelling at
    Mills and Rickey Goode while they were searching the Honda, pleading with
    them to stop and not to arrest her husband. After Mills and Goode found the
    gun and drugs, Mills asked Smith what to do about Heard. Smith said that she
    should be arrested for resisting an officer, and he and Crook walked over to
    detain her. It was during this encounter that Heard collapsed. Mills’s
    testimony aligns with the police-dispatch log, which recorded that Heard was
    placed in custody 17 minutes after Beene. As Smith’s story lacks credibility
    and we have a ready-made alternative which comports with the district court’s
    finding, we cannot discern a clear error.
    Convinced that Heard was not detained when Mills and Goode decided
    to search the Honda, we turn to the main event: was this search valid based on
    exigency? We conclude it was.
    B.
    The Fourth Amendment guarantees “[t]he right of the people to be secure
    in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches
    and seizures.” U.S. Const. amend. IV. Warrantless searches are presumed
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    unreasonable unless they fall within a delineated exception. United States v.
    Guzman, 
    739 F.3d 241
    , 245-46 (5th Cir. 2014). Under the “automobile
    exception,” police with probable cause to believe a vehicle holds contraband
    may ordinarily search the vehicle without a warrant. See United States v.
    Fields, 
    456 F.3d 519
    , 523 (5th Cir. 2006). This exception is “justified by the
    mobility of vehicles and occupants’ reduced expectations of privacy while
    traveling on public roads.” 
    Beene, 818 F.3d at 164
    .
    But if a vehicle is parked in the defendant’s residential driveway, a
    warrantless search of the vehicle must—with some exceptions inapplicable
    here 2—be supported by probable cause and exigent circumstances. 
    Id. (first citing
    Guzman, 739 F.3d at 246 
    n.8; then citing United States v. Pruett,
    
    551 F.2d 1365
    , 1369-70 (5th Cir. 1977)). Our first opinion in this case held that
    probable cause existed to search the car based on the dog sniff. 
    Id. So now,
    all
    the action is about exigency.
    Exigency, in the broad sense, simply means a state of urgency calling for
    immediate action. As used here, exigency refers to the existence of a risk that—
    without an immediate search—injury to officers or others will occur or evidence
    will be destroyed, lost, or hidden. See United States v. Blount, 
    123 F.3d 831
    ,
    837 (5th Cir. 1997) (en banc). Our precedents make it clear, however, that this
    risk must be “more than a mere possibility.” See United States v. Menchaca-
    Castruita, 
    587 F.3d 283
    , 295 (5th Cir. 2009). Rather, a finding of exigency
    “must be based on an officer’s reasonable belief that the delay necessary to
    obtain a warrant will facilitate the destruction or removal of evidence or put
    officers or bystanders in danger.” 
    Id. at 295-96.
    The Government holds the
    2  One such exception is “where a residence [is] used to sell drugs rather than ‘regularly
    use[d] . . . for residential purposes.’” 
    Guzman, 739 F.3d at 246
    n.8 (second and third alteration
    in original) (quoting 
    Fields, 456 F.3d at 525
    ). The Government here does not argue that the
    residence was not Beene’s or that Beene used the residence primarily to sell drugs.
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    burden of meeting this standard. United States v. Newman, 
    472 F.3d 233
    , 237
    (5th Cir. 2006).
    This case slots into a less-developed area of our exigency caselaw. Most
    of our exigency cases address warrantless house searches, not car searches.
    While these house-search cases supply general principles, they are not a great
    fit here given people’s diminished expectation of privacy in cars. See, e.g., South
    Dakota v. Opperman, 
    428 U.S. 364
    , 367 (1976). Accordingly, we focus our
    attention on a trio of car-in-driveway cases: Coolidge v. New Hampshire,
    Carlton v. Estelle, and United States v. Reed.
    In Coolidge v. New Hampshire, a plurality of the Supreme Court held
    that a seizure and later search, without a valid warrant, of the defendant’s car
    parked in his driveway could not be justified by exigency. 
    403 U.S. 443
    , 447,
    462 (1971) (plurality opinion). There, the police knew for at least two weeks
    that the car played a probable role in the crime. 
    Id. at 446-47,
    460. The
    defendant was also aware that he was a suspect and “had ample opportunity
    to destroy any evidence.” 
    Id. at 460.
    No indication existed that the defendant
    intended to flee; instead, he had been “extremely cooperative.” 
    Id. The opportunity
    for a search was not “fleeting” as the police knew the car was
    regularly parked in the defendant’s driveway. 
    Id. The objects
    the police
    searched for—particles of gunpowder—“were neither stolen nor contraband
    nor dangerous.” 
    Id. at 448,
    460. The night of the search, neither the defendant
    nor his wife could access the car once the police arrived to execute the
    warrant—the defendant was quickly arrested and his wife was escorted away
    and watched. 
    Id. at 460-61.
    After the defendant and his wife were removed,
    two officers guarded the premises until the car was towed. 
    Id. at 461.
          Following Coolidge, we ruled the other way in Carlton v. Estelle, holding
    that exigencies justified a warrantless search of a car parked on the street in
    front of the defendant’s house. 
    480 F.2d 759
    , 760, 763-64 (5th Cir. 1973). There,
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    in the hours after an at-gunpoint rape in a car, police followed leads that
    brought them to the defendant’s house, where a similar looking car was parked
    outside. 
    Id. at 760.
    We upheld the officers’ decision not to obtain a warrant
    before heading to the defendant’s house—“the trail was hot,” they had probable
    cause to believe the defendant was armed and had just committed a rape, and
    they did not know where the defendant or his car were until they arrived at
    his house. 
    Id. at 762.
    Until they arrived, the officers “had missed no genuine
    opportunity to obtain a valid warrant to search the car.” 
    Id. at 763.
    We also
    upheld the officers’ decision to then search the car without a warrant. 
    Id. at 764.
    In doing so, we relied on the fact that the defendant’s mother and wife,
    who were relatively close by, both knew that the defendant was in trouble.
    
    Id. at 763.
    The wife, in particular, was at the house when the defendant was
    arrested, was not herself under arrest, and had not been asked to come to the
    police station—that is, “her freedom was not restricted in any way.” 
    Id. at 760.
    Based on this, an immediate search was permitted because the wife “was
    clearly in a position to exercise dominion over the car for innocent reasons or
    otherwise.” 
    Id. at 763.
          The final of this trio is United States v. Reed, where we upheld a
    warrantless car-in-driveway search based on exigency. 
    26 F.3d 523
    , 525, 529-
    30 (5th Cir. 1994). There, after an armed bank robbery, police tracked a device
    hidden in the stolen money to the trunk of the defendant’s car. 
    Id. at 525.
    Police
    then entered the defendant’s house, handcuffed him and his wife, took the keys
    to the car, and opened the trunk. 
    Id. Inside, they
    found the money, a gun, and
    clothes like the ones the robber wore. 
    Id. We held
    that up until the defendant
    and his wife were handcuffed, the officers “missed no opportunity to obtain a
    valid warrant.” 
    Id. at 529.
    And once the husband and wife were handcuffed,
    the exigency did not pass. 
    Id. at 530.
    We cited three separate risks to support
    an immediate search. 
    Id. First, by
    failing to remove the tracker, the device
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    could interfere with the police’s ability to track another possible bank robbery.
    
    Id. Second, by
    not immediately searching the car, the police could not
    determine whether an accomplice was making off with a different part of the
    money. 
    Id. And third,
    one of the many neighbors gathered outside to witness
    the events could try to access the car. See 
    id. Turning to
    the case before us, Beene has no plausible argument that the
    officers should have obtained a warrant before he was handcuffed. The officers
    were in a rapidly changing situation, faced with a potentially armed suspect,
    and Beene’s trail was hot. They did not know exactly where he was or have a
    precise description of the car he was driving, so applying for a warrant made
    little sense. The dispatch log reveals that only six minutes passed between the
    initial dispatch call and Beene’s arrest. Up until Beene was handcuffed, the
    officers missed no genuine opportunity to get a warrant. See 
    Reed, 26 F.3d at 529
    ; 
    Carlton, 480 F.2d at 763
    .
    Appearing to acknowledge this, Beene focuses on the time after he was
    handcuffed. He argues that after this point, the exigency passed, and the police
    should have got a warrant before searching the Honda. He posits that the
    police did not even have to leave the scene because Louisiana law authorizes
    telephonic warrants. See La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 162.1(B), (D).
    We do not agree. It is true that Beene’s detention removed the risk that
    he would access the car and shoot the gun or hide the drugs. But his detention
    coincided with Heard’s arrival, creating new risks. Heard plays the part of the
    undetained wife in Carlton or the nosy neighbors in Reed. When the decision
    to search the car was made, Heard, like Carlton’s wife, knew of the car, knew
    her husband was in trouble, and could reach the car. In many ways, Heard
    posed more of a problem for the officers than Carlton’s wife. There, “the record
    [did] not suggest what” the wife “would have done if the officials had not
    exercised dominion over the car immediately upon the arrest.” Carlton,
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    . Here, the record does provide a suggestion—she would have
    gone for the car. When Heard saw that trouble was afoot, she ran to the scene.
    She did stop on command, but she kept yelling at the officers not to arrest
    Beene and not to search the car. When she was eventually detained, according
    to Trent Crook, it was because she “was acting as if she wanted to get to the
    vehicle or Officer Mills.” When Crook tried to grab her, according to him, she
    jerked away and tried to go around him towards the car. 3
    But to what extent could Heard realistically “exercise dominion over the
    car”? See 
    Carlton, 480 F.2d at 763
    . At least two officers were on the scene when
    she was alerted to her husband’s predicament and more were swarming. The
    Honda was blocked in. Mills had already showed some willingness to deploy
    his Taser. No officer testified that he was unsure he could take Heard down if
    it came to it. And, as later events bear out, Heard could be detained without
    too much trouble. Was the scene really unsecured when the police decided to
    search the car?
    We rejected this exact reasoning in Reed. There, the defendant claimed
    that the officers could have posted a guard to secure the car while others got a
    warrant. 
    Reed, 26 F.3d at 530
    . Our rejoinder was simple: “if a warrantless
    seizure is permissible, a warrantless search is permissible as well.” 
    Id. This insight
    flows from Chambers v. Maroney, where the Supreme Court refused to
    sort out which was more intrusive for Fourth Amendment purposes: a seizure
    3 While the lack of evidence on the availability of and turnaround time for telephonic
    warrants was an oversight by the Government, it is not a dispositive one in this case.
    Ordinarily, the Government must “introduce evidence of the time required to obtain a
    telephonic warrant and the availability of that warrant.” United States v. Berick, 
    710 F.2d 1035
    , 1038 (5th Cir. 1983). But this requirement is qualified. Such evidence is not required
    where the exigencies “are so imperative that recourse to even a telephone warrant was
    unavailable.” 
    Id. at 1038-39.
    This is just such a case. Heard was just five or six feet from the
    car. Disengaging to call in a warrant, even if it took just a few minutes, would give Heard a
    clear shot at the car and the items inside.
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    to secure a later search or an immediate search. See 
    399 U.S. 42
    , 51-52 (1970).
    Ex ante, neither can be deemed less intrusive, so a defendant cannot claim the
    officers should have taken one path instead of the other. Or, as we put it in
    Carlton, “the Chambers rule means that the warrantless seizure alternative
    was not a constitutionally significant 
    one.” 480 F.2d at 762
    . 4
    Here, the options the police had to prevent Heard’s access to the Honda—
    in addition to jeopardizing her safety and theirs—would constitute a seizure of
    the car, or a “meaningful interference” in Heard’s “possessory interests in” the
    car. See United States v. Jacobsen, 
    466 U.S. 109
    , 113 (1984). Presented with
    two options—intruding or continuing to intrude on Heard’s possessory right to
    her car and intruding on Beene’s privacy right in the car’s contents—we cannot
    say the police, in a constitutional sense, chose wrongly.
    III.
    Our next task is to address Beene’s incriminating statement and
    whether it should have been suppressed. Beene complains that his statement
    made during police interrogation was tainted by the prior illegal search of his
    house. 5 The district court held, and the Government urges us to conclude, that
    the statement is admissible as it was not derived from exploitation of the prior
    4  Similarly, Beene cannot prevail by arguing that the officers had already effectively
    seized the vehicle by the time the search occurred by blocking it off and ordering Heard to
    stop when she approached. We rejected this argument in Carlton. There, Carlton argued that
    even if exigency existed at some point, it passed when the officers “effectively made a
    warrantless seizure of the car and were therefore in a position to prevent its removal.”
    
    Carlton, 480 F.2d at 764
    n.1. We granted that an effective seizure may have occurred. 
    Id. But this
    did not mean that the legal warrantless seizure made the warrantless search illegal. 
    Id. We noted
    that “[i]f a warrantless seizure is necessary to remove the exigencies that would
    justify an immediate warrantless search, a warrantless search subsequent to seizure is
    permissible.” 
    Id. 5 We
    need not consider Beene’s other argument—that the warrantless search of the
    car tainted his later confession. As we just held, the car search was legal, and thus it cannot
    taint his confession.
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    illegal search. 6 We ultimately side with the Government. Put simply, the
    record amply demonstrates that Beene’s confession was not a product of the
    illegal house search.
    The exclusionary rule supplies the typical remedy for Fourth
    Amendment violations: suppression of the evidence at trial. See Mapp v. Ohio,
    
    367 U.S. 643
    , 648 (1961). “The exclusionary rule reaches not only the evidence
    uncovered as a direct result of the violation, but also evidence indirectly
    derived from it—so-called ‘fruit of the poisonous tree.’” United States v.
    Mendez, 
    885 F.3d 899
    , 909 (5th Cir. 2018) (quoting Utah v. Strieff, 
    136 S. Ct. 2056
    , 2061 (2016)). Physical evidence as well as verbal statements acquired
    downstream of a violation can be such fruit. See Wong Sun v. United States,
    
    371 U.S. 471
    , 485 (1963).
    While “safety-valve doctrines”—namely, independent source, inevitable
    discovery, and attenuation of the taint—may allow a poisoned fruit’s
    admission, see 
    Mendez, 885 F.3d at 909
    , an obvious component of the doctrine
    sometimes gets overlooked: evidence is only susceptible to exclusion if it is a
    product of the police’s illegal conduct, see Segura v. United States, 
    468 U.S. 796
    , 815 (1984); see also Hudson v. Michigan, 
    547 U.S. 586
    , 592 (2006) (“Our
    cases show that but-for causality is only a necessary, not a sufficient, condition
    for suppression.”). Excluding evidence in the absence of but-for causality
    would, by definition, put the Government in a worse place than if no violation
    occurred—a result at odds with the balance the Supreme Court has struck
    6  The district court seems to have engaged in an attenuation-of-the-taint analysis.
    However, such “attenuation analysis is only appropriate where, as a threshold matter, courts
    determine that ‘the challenged evidence is in some sense the product of illegal governmental
    activity.’” New York v. Harris, 
    495 U.S. 14
    , 19 (1990) (quoting United States v. Crews,
    
    445 U.S. 463
    , 471 (1980)). But given the similarity between the attenuation and causality
    inquiries, and because we may affirm on any grounds supported by the record, see Palmer
    ex rel. Palmer v. Waxahachie Indep. Sch. Dist., 
    579 F.3d 502
    , 506 (5th Cir. 2009), we will not
    remand for a second time.
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    between “deterring unlawful police conduct and the public interest in having
    juries receive all probative evidence.” See Nix v. Williams, 
    467 U.S. 431
    , 443
    (1984); see also United States v. Singh, 
    261 F.3d 530
    , 535 (5th Cir. 2001).
    A defendant’s claim that his statement should be suppressed based on a
    prior Fourth Amendment violation requires us to be attentive to the nature of
    that violation. This is because the “analysis that applies to illegal detentions
    differs from that applied to illegal searches.” See United States v. Crawford,
    
    372 F.3d 1048
    , 1054 (9th Cir. 2004) (en banc); see also 6 Wayne R. LaFave,
    Search and Seizure: A Treatise on the Fourth Amendment § 11.4(c) (5th ed.
    2012) (“[T]he two situations are quite different.”). When the underlying
    violation is an illegal detention unsupported by probable cause and the
    defendant confesses during that detention, causation is usually clear. But for
    the illegal detention, the defendant would not be in custody, confessing to
    police. 7 But when the underlying violation is an illegal search, the causal link
    between the search and the statement can be harder to identify. It is not
    always clear that the search influenced the defendant’s decision to confess or
    what he confessed to. Courts searching for a causal link have looked at: what
    the officials already had on the defendant, 8 what evidence the illegal search
    7 But-for causality, in such circumstances, is usually apparent, so most illegal-
    detention cases go straight to the attenuation-of-the-taint analysis. See, e.g., Taylor v.
    Alabama, 
    457 U.S. 687
    , 690-91 (1982); Dunaway v. New York, 
    442 U.S. 200
    , 216-19 (1979);
    Brown v. Illinois, 
    422 U.S. 590
    , 604-05 (1975); Wong 
    Sun, 371 U.S. at 484-87
    .
    8 See United States v. Riesselman, 
    646 F.3d 1072
    , 1079-80 (8th Cir. 2011) (finding the
    confession was not a product of the suppressed drugs in part because the defendant was also
    confronted with legally discovered weapons and drug transactions); United States v. Green,
    
    523 F.2d 968
    , 972 (9th Cir. 1975) (finding the suppressed evidence’s role in the defendant’s
    confession was “[d]e minimis” because the defendant was also confronted with legally
    discovered evidence of the same type and greater quantity); cf. 
    Mendez, 885 F.3d at 914
    (finding attenuation in part because the defendant “was already under the impression that
    there was a significant amount of legally obtained evidence against him”); United States v.
    Patino, 
    862 F.2d 128
    , 133-34 (7th Cir. 1988) (finding the defendant’s second confession was
    not a product of her illegally obtained first confession when “she previously had been told
    that her involvement in the robberies could be proved without the confession”).
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    produces, 9 whether the officials confront the defendant with the ill-gotten
    evidence, 10 and whether the defendant is influenced by the knowledge that
    officials have already seized the evidence. 11 But the ultimate question remains
    the same: would the statement have been obtained regardless of the illegality?
    See 
    Segura, 468 U.S. at 815
    ; United States v. Jenson, 
    462 F.3d 399
    , 408
    (5th Cir. 2006).
    This is a legal question we review de novo. See United States v. Moore,
    
    329 F.3d 399
    , 402 (5th Cir. 2003). But when examining the evidence, we view
    it in a light most favorably to the party who prevailed below. See 
    id. The defendant
    “must go forward with specific evidence demonstrating taint,” even
    though the Government holds “the ultimate burden of persuasion to show that
    its evidence is untainted” once a Fourth Amendment violation is established.
    See United States v. Webster, 
    750 F.2d 307
    , 314-15 (5th Cir. 1984) (quoting
    Alderman v. United States, 
    394 U.S. 165
    , 183 (1969)).
    9  Compare 
    Crawford, 372 F.3d at 1057-58
    (finding no but-for causality in part because
    the illegal search was unfruitful), with United States v. Shetler, 
    665 F.3d 1150
    , 1158 n.3
    (9th Cir. 2011) (finding but-for causality in part because the “physical evidence obtained in
    the illegal search was significantly greater and more inculpatory than” the evidence obtained
    in an earlier legal search).
    10 Compare United States v. Marasco, 
    487 F.3d 543
    , 547-48 (8th Cir. 2007) (finding no
    but-for causality when the record did not show that the defendant was confronted with the
    illegally seized evidence), with 
    Shetler, 665 F.3d at 1158
    (finding but-for causality in part
    because there was “no evidence in the record that [the officials] did not also confront [the
    defendant] with the illegally seized evidence in their questioning”), and United States v.
    Davis, 
    332 F.3d 1163
    , 1171 (9th Cir. 2003) (finding the illegal search “led directly” to the
    incriminating statement when police questioned the defendant about the illegally seized gun
    and he admitted to owning it).
    11 Compare 
    Riesselman, 646 F.3d at 1079
    (finding the confession was not a product of
    the suppressed drugs in part because the defendant’s only evidence that his confession was
    influenced by the illegal seizure was his own self-serving testimony), with 
    Shetler, 665 F.3d at 1158
    -59 (finding but-for causality in part because the defendant was only aware of the
    illegal search which revealed an extensive drug operation and not the prior legal search
    which revealed only a part of the operation), and United States v. $186,416.00 in U.S.
    Currency, 
    590 F.3d 942
    , 951 (9th Cir. 2010) (finding the defendant’s declaration—which he
    submitted for “the express purpose of securing the return of the illegally seized currency”—
    was a product of the illegal search and seizure).
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    Here, the district court—though rightly perturbed by Chief Smith and
    Detective Malone’s “flagrant and egregious” falsification of Heard’s consent to
    the house search—correctly found no causal link between the illegal house
    search and Beene’s later statement. Recall that before either search occurred,
    Beene was legally arrested for resisting Mills’s commands. He was present
    while the officers legally searched his car and seized the gun, three bags of
    marijuana, and a bag of crack-cocaine. Beene’s interrogation did follow the
    illegal house search which uncovered larger quantities of drugs. But that is all
    Beene has. This temporal sequence is the only indication that but for the illegal
    search, Beene would not have admitted to possessing the gun. On the other
    hand, substantial evidence shows that Beene would have spilled the beans
    whether the house was searched or not.
    We find it particularly relevant that, as the district court found, Beene
    was not confronted with the illegally seized drugs. Instead, his interrogation
    focused on the gun and why Beene had it that day. Further, the pressure
    applied during the interrogation was (at least constitutionally speaking) fair
    game. Detective Malone told Beene that the police found the gun in the car,
    explained that Beene’s earlier unsolicited remark was an admission that he
    possessed the gun, and mused that he could find witnesses to corroborate that
    Beene was waving the gun. We find it significant that all three points of
    pressure immediately preceding Beene’s confession related to legally obtained
    information. This is strong evidence that without the illegal house search,
    Beene would still have made his incriminating statement.
    And not only did Beene face substantial lawful pressure, but it is not
    even clear that Beene knew the police found the hidden drugs in his house.
    Even assuming he did know, we cannot conclude that his awareness made a
    difference. Beene did not testify that he confessed about the gun because he
    believed—after the drugs in the house were seized—that staying quiet would
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    be futile. And such a story, if given, would be hard to accept. While the quantity
    of drugs in the house was greater than that found in the car, the circumstances
    made the drugs in the car more potent evidence. The drugs in the car were
    more clearly linked to Beene (he was seen driving the car moments before they
    were discovered), and were packaged in separate bags (making the
    Government’s case for drug distribution). In sum, without the fabrication of
    Heard’s consent and the resulting illegal house search, Beene’s position and
    the pressures he faced would be largely unchanged. He still would be legally
    in custody, facing serious and well-founded drug and gun charges, and could
    appropriately be questioned about the seized gun and the drugs from his car.
    Beene’s search for a causal connection between his statements and the
    illegal conduct turns up empty. True, Beene’s interrogation followed the illegal
    search. But (despite what a gambler on a hot streak might tell you) “sequence
    should not be confused with consequence.” 
    Crawford, 372 F.3d at 1058
    . Also
    true, the house search happened around the same time as the car search and
    the interrogation. Obviously, however, the taint from the later house search
    could not reach back in time and infect the earlier car search. And the temporal
    proximity between the house search and the interrogation, by itself, cannot
    demonstrate causation. “The exclusionary rule forbids the government from
    using evidence caused by an illegal seizure, not evidence found around the time
    of a seizure.” United States v. Clariot, 
    655 F.3d 550
    , 555 (6th Cir. 2011).
    Finally, while Malone’s misconduct makes us wary of his retelling of the
    interrogation, the district court was also aware of his misconduct yet still
    credited his story (in large part due to the recording which it found
    corroborative). Because we owe deference to this finding, we will not unsettle
    it with speculation of greater misdeeds.
    Smith and Malone’s misconduct is deeply concerning. But this alone does
    not provide a ground to suppress Beene’s statement. Instead, given the sheer
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    lack of evidence that the illegal house search influenced Beene’s decision to
    talk, as well as the strong evidence that it did not, the appropriate and only
    available sanction is suppression of the drugs found in the house.
    *   *    *
    For the foregoing reasons, Beene’s conviction and sentence are
    AFFIRMED.
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