Templeton v. O'Cheskey (In Re American Housing Foundation) ( 2015 )


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  •       Case: 14-10563             Document: 00513023609   Page: 1   Date Filed: 04/28/2015
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    FILED
    No. 14-10563                         April 28, 2015
    Lyle W. Cayce
    In the Matter of: AMERICAN HOUSING FOUNDATION,                                     Clerk
    Debtor
    ------------------------------
    ROBERT L. TEMPLETON,
    Appellant Cross-Appellee
    v.
    WALTER O'CHESKEY, Trustee
    Appellee Cross-Appellant
    Appeals from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of Texas
    Before KING, DAVIS, and OWEN, Circuit Judges.
    KING, Circuit Judge:
    Appellant Robert Templeton invested in certain limited partnerships
    formed under the auspices of American Housing Foundation, the debtor, which
    was in the business of developing low-income housing projects. American
    Housing Foundation, which issued guaranties of Templeton’s investments,
    ultimately filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Templeton asserted claims against
    American Housing Foundation in bankruptcy based on the guaranties and
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    based on various state law causes of action related to his investments. The
    bankruptcy court issued a judgment subordinating those claims “pursuant to
    the provisions of 
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b).” The court also voided, as preferential,
    transfers made to Templeton within 90 days of the bankruptcy filing.
    However, the bankruptcy court refused to void allegedly fraudulent transfers.
    The parties cross-appealed to the district court, which affirmed the
    bankruptcy court’s judgment in its entirety. The parties now cross-appeal to
    this court. For the following reasons, we AFFIRM in part and REVERSE in
    part the judgment below.
    I.         Factual and Procedural Background
    A. Factual Background
    Steve W. Sterquell, a certified public accountant, was the president and
    executive director of debtor American Housing Foundation (“AHF”). Founded
    by Sterquell in 1989, AHF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, tax-exempt entity which
    develops low-income housing projects.             By 2009, AHF owned or managed
    approximately 14,000 housing units across nine states.                    Many of these
    properties were eligible for Low Income Housing Tax Credits (LIHTC) and
    other tax exemptions and financial aid.
    AHF used these tax advantages in the financing of its developments.
    Among other arrangements, AHF created various single-purpose limited
    partnerships (“LPs”) to fund these projects. 1 Either AHF or one of its wholly-
    owned subsidiaries served as the general partner for these LPs.                   Private
    investors would buy into the LPs and serve as limited partners; AHF
    guaranteed repayment of those investments, often unconditionally, and
    sometimes with interest. AHF purportedly sought investments in these LPs
    1   AHF also used, for example, tax-exempt bonds to finance acquisitions.
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    to cover certain “soft” costs for its projects—e.g., attorney’s fees, architect’s
    fees, surveying fees, paint, as well as expenses related to the LIHTC
    application process. 2 AHF represented that through the LIHTC program,
    investors could “make an equity contribution to the development of rental units
    for low-income households” and receive “a dollar-for-dollar reduction of their
    tax liability.” 3 This general arrangement is not an uncommon method of
    funding low-income housing developments. See Eric Mittereder, Pushing the
    Limits: Nonprofit Guarantees in LIHTC Joint Ventures, 22 J. Affordable Hous.
    & Cmty. Dev. L. 79, 82–84 (2013); Roberta L. Rubin & Jonathan Klein,
    Nonprofit Guaranties in Tax Credit Transactions: A New Era?, 15 J. Affordable
    Hous. & Cmty. Dev. L. 314, 315–16 (2006); Jonathan Klein & Roberta Rubin,
    Nonprofit Guaranties in Tax Credit Transactions, 9 J. Affordable Hous. &
    Cmty. Dev. L. 302, 308–09 (2000) (“During the predevelopment stage of an
    affordable housing development, a stage that may take one year, two years, or
    even longer, seed money financing is essential. Virtually no predevelopment
    lender will provide unsecured funding to a single-purpose limited partnership
    for a project that does not have permits, approvals, complete financing, and
    sometimes even real estate without an unlimited guaranty of repayment.”). 4
    Appellant Robert Templeton is a trial attorney who has practiced law in
    Texas for over fifty years. Templeton became acquainted with Sterquell in the
    1980s. Starting in the late 1990’s, Templeton and his wife began investing in
    AHF and AHF-related entities through Sterquell—ultimately investing over
    2These costs typically could not be financed through banks.
    3LPs are pass-through entities for tax purposes. See 
    26 U.S.C. § 701
    .
    4 The IRS has issued guidance for limiting guaranties in LIHTC partnerships “to
    ensure that the nonprofit’s obligations to its for-profit partner do not violate its charitable
    purpose.” Mittereder, supra, at 84–85.
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    $5 million. Most relevant here, from 2006 to 2008, Templeton invested in
    various LPs in the manner described above—i.e., either AHF or a wholly-
    owned AHF subsidiary served as the general partner (taking a 1% or less
    equity interest in the LP), while Templeton served as a limited partner (taking,
    along with other limited partners, most of the equity in the LP). Templeton’s
    investments in five of these LPs—GOZ No. 1, Ltd. (“GOZ”); LIHTC-M2M No.
    2, LP (“M2M-2”); LIHTC-M2M No. 3, LP (“M2M-3”); LIHTC Walden II
    Development, Ltd. (“Walden II”); and AHF Gray Ranch, Ltd. (“Gray Ranch”)—
    are at issue in the present appeal. 5
    These LPs, in which Templeton invested over $2 million, 6 were formed
    for the purposes of developing various residential properties. Because these
    investments do not appear to have been well-documented, the details
    surrounding the investments are less than clear. For instance, according to
    Templeton, some of his later investments consisted of the “rolled over” value of
    his earlier investments. In any event, concurrent with each investment, AHF
    purported to guaranty repayment of the investment—sometimes with interest.
    The guaranty documents, however, are in key respects flawed. For example,
    some of the documents state that AHF “agree[d] to pay, when due or declared
    due as provided in the Loan Documents, the Guaranteed Investment to
    [Templeton]”—even though there do not appear to be any associated “Loan
    Documents.”      With respect to another LP, AHF guaranteed the return of
    Templeton’s “Initial Capital Contribution”—defined as the amount of cash
    5  During this time period, Templeton also invested in WI-HURIKE, Ltd. (“Hurike”).
    However, Templeton, dropped his claims based on his Hurike investment after the
    bankruptcy court disallowed the Hurike-based claim of another creditor. As such, those
    claims are not at issue in this appeal.
    6 In 2007, Templeton earned over $8 million through the sale of certain oil and gas
    interests.
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    Templeton invested “prior to the Effective Date”—even though Templeton
    made all of his investments after that Effective Date. 7
    Templeton testified that he invested in the LPs to make money, not to
    gain tax benefits: “The reason I got into [these investments] is this simple.
    This was the safest kind of investment that I had seen with those guarantees,
    with the financial condition of this company and the history that I had, and
    the return.” However, the record is clear that Templeton sought significant
    tax benefits as a result of most of his investments. In addition, Templeton
    received quarterly interest payments in relation to his investments in Walden
    II.
    It is undisputed that many of the funds Templeton and others invested
    in the LPs were not put to their intended purposes. Rather, Sterquell used his
    LIHTC investment arrangements to obtain funds and fraudulently divert them
    from the LPs, using the funds to benefit himself, AHF, and other associated
    entities for purposes other than the purported aims of the LPs. In particular,
    the bankruptcy court found that AHF and Sterquell used AHF Development,
    Ltd. (“AHFD”)—an LP for which AHF served as general partner—as a conduit
    bank account for these activities. The Trustee’s First Amended Disclosure
    Statement (“Disclosure Statement”) describes the events leading to AHF’s
    bankruptcy:
    Prior to the [bankruptcy], [AHF] pursued an aggressive strategy of
    heavily leveraged acquisitions of properties across the nation. As
    many as 200 satellite entities were created to facilitate multiple
    investments in low-income housing tax-credit properties. During
    this time, [AHF] was focused almost exclusively on deals. There
    was no focus on managing the properties acquired. Over the
    course of time, because of tightening financial markets and the
    7However, for the reasons discussed below, we need not decide the validity of these
    guaranties.
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    inability to obtain tax credit allocations, it became more and more
    difficult for [AHF] to obtain sufficient cash from lenders or
    investors to fund all of the various obligations of [AHF]. As a
    result, [AHF] took cash from properties and used that cash to pay
    obligations of [AHF] and its related entities. This cash drain from
    the properties resulted in a deterioration in the condition of the
    properties because no funds were then available for basic upkeep.
    Sterquell committed suicide on April 1, 2009, prompting investigation into his
    activities and, ultimately, AHF’s bankruptcy. Initially, Templeton led a group
    of creditors and investors that attempted to obtain information regarding the
    activities of Sterquell and AHF prior to his death. According to the Disclosure
    Statement, the creditors and investors concluded that “Sterquell had worked
    with a complex web of interrelated entities that apparently received funds from
    [AHF] and investors” and “funds invested were not always put in the accounts
    of the entities in which the funds were invested.” The group also discovered
    that just prior to his death, Sterquell had transferred approximately $24
    million in life insurance funds from AHF to trusts controlled by or for the
    benefit of the Sterquell family. 8
    B. Procedural Background
    On April 21, 2009, creditors of AHF filed an involuntary petition against
    it pursuant to Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code. On June 11, 2009, AHF
    filed a voluntary petition pursuant to Chapter 11.              The bankruptcy court
    consolidated the two cases and appointed Walter O’Cheskey as the Chapter 11
    Trustee. On December 7, 2010, the bankruptcy court approved the Second
    Amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan Filed by the Chapter 11 Trustee and the
    Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors (the “Plan”).
    8   Ultimately, Templeton, as the initial Chairman of the Creditors Committee in the
    AHF Bankruptcy, brought an adversary action and successfully litigated for the return of
    those life insurance proceeds to the bankruptcy estate.
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    1.     The Plan and Disclosure Statement
    The Plan elucidates the scope of this bankruptcy—involving claims
    totaling more than $100 million.             Under the Plan, creditors’ claims are
    prioritized into 19 classes. Most relevant here are the last three classes—Class
    17, Class 18, and Class 19. Class 17 applies to “Allowed General Unsecured
    Claims.” Under the Plan, claims in that class (estimated at between $70.6 and
    $87.2 million) are entitled to receive a pro rata share of distributions from the
    trust assets after liquidation and after payment in full of claims in Classes 1
    through 14. The Plan further estimates the recovery for claims in this class at
    between 20% and 40%. Templeton contends that his claims should fall within
    this class.
    The Trustee contends, however, that to the extent Templeton’s claims
    are valid, those claims should fall within Class 18—“Allowed Subordinated
    Claims.” The Plan estimates that approximately $8 million in claims fall
    within this class—for which the estimated recovery is 0%. 9 The Disclosure
    Statement sheds light on the Trustee’s original reason for seeking
    subordination of certain claims (such as Templeton’s) into Class 18:
    The Chapter 11 Trustee believes that, while AHF and its
    tax-credit limited partners were engaged in the legitimate
    affordable housing business, Sterquell and some, but not all, “soft-
    money” investors were involved in the illegitimate activity of
    manufacturing illegitimate tax basis and therefore taking
    illegitimate tax deductions in return for what were in actuality
    loans.
    ...
    The soft-money structure was sometimes designed by
    Sterquell and participated in by certain “soft-money” investors,
    who knew or should have known that the investment was purely
    9  According to the Plan, claims in Class 18 will not be paid out until payment in full
    of the claims in Classes 1 through 17.
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    for illegitimate and improper tax purposes. The Chapter 11
    Trustee believes that the real purpose was to disguise true loans
    as equity investments to take tax deductions through falsely
    manufactured tax basis in amounts several times the actual
    investment. These soft-money claims relate to money invested in
    Affiliates listed on Exhibit F attached hereto. The Chapter 11
    Trustee intends to object to and request subordination of soft-
    money-investor claims arising from or related [to] an abusive tax
    shelter.
    To be clear, some soft-money-investor claims may not arise
    from or relate to an abusive tax shelter and may be legitimate,
    allowable claims. But some, not all, soft-money-investor claims
    appear to arise from or relate to an abusive tax shelter and may,
    therefore, be objected to and/or subject to a request to subordinate
    such claims to other unsecured claims.
    The final class, Class 19, applies to “Allowed Interests in the Debtor.”
    The Plan states that because AHF is a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) entity, “there are
    no Allowed Interests in [AHF].” Alternatively, the Plan states that “if such
    Interests exist, holders of such Interests shall receive no Distributions or retain
    any property under this Plan on account of such Interests.”
    2.     Templeton’s Claim and the Trustee’s Complaint
    On October 5, 2009, Templeton filed in the bankruptcy proceeding a
    Proof of Claim, which he most recently amended on October 7, 2011 (the
    “Claim”). In his Claim, Templeton asserted a “Liquidated Unsecured Claim,”
    in which he sought reimbursement and attorney’s fees relating to his
    investments in GOZ, M2M-2, M2M-3, Walden II, and Gray Ranch. Templeton
    also brought an “Unliquidated Unsecured Claim,” asserting fraud, breach of
    fiduciary duties, and money-had-and-received claims in relation to those
    investments. Finally, Templeton asserted “a claim of constructive trust and
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    equitable lien on all funds and assets of [AHF] that are traceable from
    Templeton’s funds and respective Partnership funds received by [AHF].” 10
    On August 31, 2010, the Trustee commenced the present adversary
    proceeding by filing a complaint objecting to Templeton’s Claim on various
    grounds. The Trustee filed an amended complaint on April 4, 2011, contending
    that the guarantees are not valid contractual obligations and, alternatively,
    that the entirety of Templeton’s Claim should be subordinated to the claims of
    all general unsecured creditors. The Trustee also alleges causes of action for
    the avoidance and recovery of various allegedly fraudulent and preferential
    transfers.
    3.     Bankruptcy Court Decision
    Over the course of 11 months, the bankruptcy court held a 25-day trial
    in this matter, issuing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law on March 30,
    2013. In its conclusions of law, the bankruptcy court began by noting that
    “[t]he Templeton Deals frustrate legal analysis.” The court summarized the
    deals as follows:
    In each deal, Templeton was a major investor. For the same
    investment dollars, Templeton received a guaranty from AHF,
    which, according to Templeton, was a guaranty of repayment of
    the amount of the investment. Templeton contends that the
    guaranties are, in effect, unconditional promises to repay by AHF
    the amount of the investments. But a guaranty is part of a three-
    party transaction and is a promise to answer for the repayment of
    a debt. How does a guaranty bootstrap the Templeton investments
    into something more?        Templeton’s construction makes the
    guaranties promissory notes. By the very structure of each of the
    Templeton Deals, AHF received nothing in return for its guaranty.
    In each instance, AHF is, per the deal, nothing more than a
    fractional interest holder in the limited partnership into which
    10Templeton also brought various “Alternative Derivative Claims” on behalf of the
    LPs in which he invested. These claims are not at issue in this appeal.
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    Templeton’s investment dollars were to flow. The structure defies
    an interpretation that AHF received any consideration for its
    absolute, unconditional promise to repay Templeton’s investment.
    The court also determined that the guaranties “do not actually provide that
    AHF guaranteed the amount of Templeton’s investments.” Moreover, the court
    determined that there was no evidence that the interests Templeton had
    purportedly “rolled over” as part of his investment in Walden II had any real
    value.
    The bankruptcy court next determined that, in order to address
    Templeton’s Claim and the Trustee’s causes of action, it needed to characterize
    Templeton’s deals. The court “look[ed] behind the form of the Templeton Deals
    and construe[d] each deal as an integrated whole.” The court deemed the deals
    “wildly beneficial to Templeton” and “too good to be true,” and determined that
    “[t]he ‘product’ Templeton acquired as a result of his investment was not based
    on economic reality.”    The court further found that Templeton was “at
    best, . . . willfully blind to the risks” of his investments and “was clearly
    complicit with Sterquell at the threshold of each of these deals.” Noting that
    the bankruptcy courts have the power to recharacterize debt as equity, the
    court looked to Texas law to “determine whether the Templeton Deals are
    investments that create . . . an equity claim or debt subject to treatment as an
    unsecured claim.” Applying various factors drawn from the caselaw, the court
    concluded “that Templeton’s ‘investments’ were indeed equity investments and
    must be treated as such.”
    The court then proceeded to address mandatory subordination under
    Section 510(b). Noting that the term “security” is defined broadly under the
    Bankruptcy Code, the court determined that Templeton’s investments—which
    the court had already deemed equity investments—constitute “securities”
    under the Code. Therefore, the court concluded that Templeton’s unliquidated
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    claims (based on fraud and related theories) fell within the requirements of
    Section 510(b). The court rejected Templeton’s argument that he did not own
    any interest in AHF (only in the LPs), noting that Section 510(b) also applies
    to affiliates of the debtor. The court determined that the various LPs constitute
    affiliates of AHF, given that AHF fully controlled even the LPs for which it did
    not serve as a general partner.
    The court next denied the Trustee’s fraudulent transfer claim,
    concluding that Templeton “gave value and did so in good faith for his
    investments.” The court rejected the argument that Templeton’s participation
    in an illegitimate tax scheme defeated an assertion of good faith, given that
    “any complicity by Templeton with Sterquell concerning illegitimate tax deals
    did not defraud other creditors of AHF.” The court did, however, void various
    preferential transfers made to Templeton within 90 days of AHF’s filing of
    bankruptcy, reasoning that the funds came from an account of AHFD which
    was “wholly controlled by AHF and, therefore, constitute[d] payments from
    AHF.” 11
    In its judgment, the bankruptcy court ordered that:
    • “Templeton’s Claim is subordinated to all allowed general
    unsecured claims pursuant to the provisions of 
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b);”
    • “The Trustee’s cause of action for the equitable subordination of
    Templeton’s Claim pursuant to 
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (c) is denied;”
    • “The Trustee’s cause of action for the avoidance and recovery of
    fraudulent transfers to Templeton under 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
     is
    denied;” and
    11In its findings of fact, the court found that AHFD was “an entity controlled by AHF
    and Sterquell and used by AHF and Sterquell as a conduit bank account.”
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    • “The Trustee’s cause of action for the avoidance and recovery of
    preferential transfers in the amount of $157,500 to Templeton is
    granted under 
    11 U.S.C. § 547
    (b).”
    4.    District Court Decision
    On appeal, the district court affirmed the bankruptcy court’s judgment
    in full.   The court first adopted the bankruptcy court’s findings of fact,
    concluding that the findings were supported by evidence and not clearly
    erroneous. The district court also determined that the bankruptcy court did
    not err in recharacterizing and subordinating Templeton’s claims, given that
    (1) the LPs were affiliates of AHF; and (2) the bankruptcy court “properly relied
    upon the evidence and substance of the transactions in finding that the claims
    arose from the purchase of equity.” With respect to the affiliate issue, the
    district court noted that “Templeton did not object to or appeal the order
    confirming the plan, which incorporated as affiliates all the [LPs] at issue.”
    The court further held that the bankruptcy court did not err in granting the
    Trustee’s claim for preferential transfers, as it found no error in the
    bankruptcy court’s findings that AHFD “was nothing more than a pass-
    through conduit bank account.” The district court also rejected the argument
    that the payments from AHFD to Templeton were made in the ordinary course
    of business, as the payments were made in furtherance of fraud. With respect
    to the purportedly fraudulent transfers, the district court affirmed the
    bankruptcy court’s finding of good faith, as the evidence supported the
    bankruptcy court’s findings that (1) Templeton gave value to AHF, and (2)
    Templeton gave such value in good faith.
    II.   Standard of Review
    This court reviews the bankruptcy court’s findings of fact for clear error
    and its conclusions of law de novo. Morton v. Yonkers (In re Vallecito Gas,
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    L.L.C.), 
    771 F.3d 929
    , 932 (5th Cir. 2014). “Under a clear error standard, this
    court will reverse only if, on the entire evidence, we are left with the definite
    and firm conviction that a mistake has been made.” Morrison v. W. Builders
    of Amarillo, Inc. (In re Morrison), 
    555 F.3d 473
    , 480 (5th Cir. 2009) (internal
    quotation marks omitted).
    III.   Discussion
    A.    Mandatory Subordination under Section 510(b)
    The Trustee and Templeton primarily dispute the appropriate
    prioritization of Templeton’s claims relative to those of other claimants. As
    discussed above, the Plan prioritizes claims against AHF into 19 classes.
    Templeton argues that his claims should fall within Class 17 as “General
    Unsecured Claims”—for which the estimated recovery would be 20% to 40% of
    the value of his claims. The Trustee argues that Templeton’s claims should
    fall within Class 18—“Allowed Subordinated Claims”—a class for which the
    estimated recovery is 0%. The bankruptcy court held in favor of the Trustee,
    ordering that Templeton’s entire Claim be “subordinated to all allowed general
    unsecured claims.”
    As an initial matter, we note that the bankruptcy court’s reasoning, at
    least with respect to Templeton’s claims arising out of AHF’s guaranties,
    appears to be premised on a recharacterization of those guaranties as equity
    interests in AHF pursuant to 
    11 U.S.C. § 502
    (b). See Grossman v. Lothian Oil
    Inc. (In re Lothian Oil Inc.), 
    650 F.3d 539
    , 543 (5th Cir. 2011) (holding that
    recharacterization stems from bankruptcy court’s power to disallow a claim,
    but that “recharacterization is appropriate when the claimant has some rights
    [vis-à-vis] the bankrupt” (internal quotation marks omitted)). Accordingly,
    much of the parties’ briefing is focused on this recharacterization issue.
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    Nonetheless, we need not reach that issue, 12 as we conclude for the reasons
    discussed below that Section 510(b) mandates the subordination of
    Templeton’s entire Claim. Indeed, the bankruptcy court’s judgment does not
    mention recharacterization under Section 502(b), but rather states that
    “Templeton’s Claim is subordinated pursuant to the provisions of 
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b).”    It is fundamental that we “review[] judgments, not opinions,”
    Chevron, U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Res. Def. Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
    , 842
    (1984), and that “this court may affirm a judgment upon any basis supported
    by the record,” Davis v. Scott, 
    157 F.3d 1003
    , 1005 (5th Cir. 1998).
    It is also worth noting that throughout this action, the primary theory
    underlying the Trustee’s objection to Templeton’s Claim has stemmed from the
    premise that Templeton’s investments were abusive tax shelters and that
    Templeton “knew or should have known that the investment[s] [were] purely
    for illegitimate and improper tax purposes.” Even assuming arguendo the
    truth of this premise, we need not decide whether such misconduct warrants
    subordination under the Bankruptcy Code. Rather, as discussed below, we
    affirm the judgment subordinating Templeton’s Claim solely on the basis of
    Section 510(b), which is narrowly focused on the nature of the claims and
    transactions at issue.
    Section 510(b) states:
    For the purpose of distribution under this title, a claim arising
    from rescission of a purchase or sale of a security of the debtor or
    of an affiliate of the debtor, for damages arising from the purchase
    or sale of such a security, or for reimbursement or contribution
    allowed under section 502 on account of such a claim, shall be
    12 A threshold issue in the bankruptcy court’s recharacterization analysis is whether
    Templeton’s equity investments in the LPs can be “recharacterized” as equity investments in
    AHF. Most of the recharacterization case law involves recharacterizing transactions in the
    same entity. The bankruptcy court’s judgment, relying as it does on Section 510(b), avoids
    this issue, as do we.
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    subordinated to all claims or interests that are senior to or equal
    the claim or interest represented by such security, except that if
    such security is common stock, such claim has the same priority as
    common stock.
    
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b). This provision “‘serves to effectuate one of the general
    principles of corporate and bankruptcy law: that creditors are entitled to be
    paid ahead of shareholders in the distribution of corporate assets.’” SeaQuest
    Diving, LP v. S&J Diving, Inc. (In re SeaQuest Diving, LP), 
    579 F.3d 411
    , 417
    (5th Cir. 2009) (quoting Racusin v. Am. Wagering, Inc. (In re Am. Wagering,
    Inc.), 
    493 F.3d 1067
    , 1071 (9th Cir. 2007)). “[T]he most important policy
    rationale” behind Section 510(b) is that claims “seek[ing] to recover a portion
    of claimants’ equity investment[s]” should be subordinated.              Id. at 421.
    Moreover, “Section 510(b) applies whether the securities were issued by the
    debtor or by an affiliate of the debtor.” Alan N. Resnick & Henry J. Sommer,
    Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 510.04[04] (16th ed. 2014) (emphasis added).
    Accordingly, this provision makes clear that claims arising from equity
    investments in a debtor’s affiliate should be treated the same as equity
    investments in the debtor itself—i.e., both are subordinated to the claims of
    general creditors. The Trustee argues, and we agree, that all of Templeton’s
    claims are claims “for damages arising from the purchase or sale of” a
    “security . . . of an affiliate of [AHF].” We reach this result through a step-by-
    step analysis of this provision.
    We first conclude that Templeton’s claims are claims for “damages.”
    With respect to the “unliquidated claims”—i.e., those for fraud, breach of
    fiduciary duties, and money-had-and-received—Templeton clearly seeks
    damages for injuries resulting from these torts. 13 Cf. Baroda Hill Invs., Ltd.
    13Indeed, Templeton asserted in his Claim that he was “damaged as a result of the
    fraud.” Moreover, Templeton does not appear to dispute that the unliquidated claims are
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    v. Telegroup, Inc. (In re Telegroup, Inc.), 
    281 F.3d 133
    , 142 (3d Cir. 2002)
    (“Congress enacted § 510(b) to prevent disappointed shareholders from
    recovering their investment loss by using fraud and other securities claims to
    bootstrap their way to parity with general unsecured creditors in a bankruptcy
    proceeding.”).         Whether       Templeton’s       “liquidated     claims”     (seeking
    reimbursement under AHF’s guaranties) also constitute claims for damages is
    a more difficult question. Several bankruptcy courts have reasoned that “the
    concept of ‘damages’” under Section 510(b) “has the connotation of some
    recovery other than the simple recovery of an unpaid debt due upon an
    instrument.” In re Blondheim Real Estate, Inc., 
    91 B.R. 639
    , 640 (Bankr.
    D.N.H. 1988) (holding that claim for recovery on debtor’s promissory note
    should not be subordinated under 510(b)); see also In re Wyeth Co., 
    134 B.R. 920
    , 921–22 (Bankr. W.D. Mo. 1991) (reasoning that “the use of the term
    ‘damages’ implies more than a simple debt” and holding that debt on
    promissory notes should not be subordinated). Yet the situation is different
    where, as here, the unpaid debt is itself an equity investment. Templeton is
    not merely seeking recovery under independent promissory notes, but rather
    under guaranties which the bankruptcy court found to be “intimately
    intertwined” with the LP agreements. 14 Although Templeton is suing for the
    breach of the guaranties of his LP interests (rather than suing directly for
    repayment of his equity investments in the LPs), this is exactly the elevation
    of form over substance that Section 510(b) seeks to avoid—by subordinating
    claims for damages, but rather argues only that those claims do not arise out of the purchase
    of security interests.
    14 The court found that “[a]nalyzing one instrument is pointless without consideration
    of the others.” Templeton has given us no reason to conclude that these findings are clearly
    erroneous. See Wyle v. C.H. Rider & Family (In re United Energy Corp.), 
    944 F.2d 589
    , 596
    (9th Cir. 1991) (“[Bankruptcy courts] possess the power to delve behind the form of
    transactions and relationships to determine the substance.”).
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    claims that functionally seek to “recover a portion of claimants’ equity
    investment[s].” 15 In re SeaQuest Diving, LP, 
    579 F.3d at 421
    . Moreover, as
    this court has noted, various circuits “have adopted [a] broad reading of the
    damages category” contained in Section 510(b), and “the circuit courts agree
    that a claim arising from the purchase or sale of a security can include a claim
    predicated on post-issuance conduct”—i.e., conduct after the issuance of the
    security—“such as breach of contract.” 16 
    Id.
     (citing Am. Broad. Sys., Inc. v.
    Nugent (In re Betacom of Phoenix, Inc.), 
    240 F.3d 823
    , 831–32 (9th Cir. 2001),
    In re Telegroup, Inc., 
    281 F.3d at
    141–42, Allen v. Geneva Steel Co. (In re
    Geneva Steel Co.), 
    281 F.3d 1173
    , 1180–81 (10th Cir. 2002), and Rombro v.
    Dufrayne (In re Med Diversified, Inc.), 
    461 F.3d 251
    , 256 (2d Cir. 2006)).
    Templeton’s guaranty claims here are essentially breach of contract claims, as
    Templeton himself concedes in his opening brief on appeal: “A breach of a
    guaranty is a breach of contract . . . .” Accordingly, all of Templeton’s claims
    are fairly characterized as claims for “damages.”
    Next, there is no doubt that the LP interests Templeton purchased
    constitute “securities” within the meaning of Section 510(b). The Bankruptcy
    Code expressly defines the term “security” to “include[] . . . [an] interest of a
    limited partner in a limited partnership.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (49)(A)(xiii). 17
    15  As discussed above, we need not decide whether the guaranties themselves
    constitute debt rather than equity interests. In any event, “the circuit courts agree that a
    claimant need not be an actual shareholder for his claim to be covered by § 510(b).” In re
    SeaQuest, 
    579 F.3d at 422
     (internal quotation marks and brackets omitted).
    16 These statements were dicta, as the court was addressing the rescission category,
    rather than the damages category, of Section 510(b). See In re SeaQuest, 
    579 F.3d at 422
    . In
    any event, we find the court’s discussion persuasive.
    17 Templeton argues that the unliquidated claims are not securities, but that
    contention is inapposite. Although the claims themselves may not constitute securities
    within the meaning of the Bankruptcy Code, those claims nonetheless arise from the sale of
    securities of affiliates of AHF, and thus fall within the ambit of Section 510(b), for the reasons
    discussed below.
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    We also conclude that Templeton’s claims arise from the purchase of
    those securities. “For a claim to ‘arise from’ the purchase or sale of a security,
    there must be some nexus or causal relationship between the claim and the
    sale.” In re SeaQuest Diving, LP, 
    579 F.3d at 421
    . We have little difficulty
    finding such a nexus between Templeton’s claims and his purchase of the LP
    interests. In his opening brief on appeal, Templeton makes clear that his
    unliquidated tort claims stem directly from the LP investments; he asserts
    that: (1) AHF breached its fiduciary duties by allowing the funds he invested
    in the LPs “to be commingled and misappropriated;” (2) AHF defrauded
    Templeton by making “false statements to Templeton about his investments
    in the [LPs];” and (3) “monies provided by Templeton for the [LPs] were taken
    and used by AHF in a manner outside the scope and intent of the [LP]
    transaction documents.” With respect to the guaranty claims, as discussed
    above, the bankruptcy court specifically found that the guaranties were
    “intimately intertwined” with the LP agreements, and that “the guaranties
    cannot be considered apart from the other transactions that arose in
    connection with the investments.” These findings are not clearly erroneous;
    rather, it is clear from the record that the guaranties, at least in part, induced
    Templeton to make these investments. Thus, we conclude that there is at least
    “some nexus or causal relationship” between Templeton’s claims and his
    purchase of the LP interests.      
    Id.
       And as discussed above, the fact that
    Templeton is effectively attempting to recoup his equity investments in the
    LPs through his claims supports the application of Section 510(b) here. 
    Id.
    (“For a claim to ‘arise from’ the purchase or sale of a security, there must be
    some nexus or causal relationship between the claim and the sale. Further,
    the fact that the claims in the case seek to recover a portion of claimants’ equity
    investment is the most important policy rationale.” (internal citation omitted)).
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    Furthermore, the LP interests here are securities “of an affiliate of
    [AHF].”     
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b).        The Bankruptcy Code defines “affiliate,” in
    relevant part, as a “person whose business is operated under a lease or
    operating agreement by a debtor, or person substantially all of whose property
    is operated under an operating agreement with the debtor.” 18                     
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (2)(C). We first note that the Plan, confirmed by the bankruptcy court,
    states that all of the LPs at issue here are affiliates of AHF “pursuant to section
    101(2) of the Bankruptcy Code.” In any event, setting aside the Plan provision,
    we conclude that the LPs are affiliates of AHF.
    First, all of the LPs—GOZ, M2M-2, M2M-3, Walden II, and Gray
    Ranch—are “persons” under the Bankruptcy Code.                       
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (41)
    (defining the term “person” to “include[] . . . partnership[s]”). Second, each of
    the LPs is “operated under a[n] . . . operating agreement,” 
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (2)(C)—i.e., the LP agreements.                  Although the term “operating
    agreement” is undefined in the Bankruptcy Code, there is little doubt that the
    LP agreements qualify. They are quite literally agreements under which the
    LPs operate; the agreements define the business and purposes of each LP,
    making clear that each LP acts through its general partner to accomplish those
    purposes. 19 We also conclude that the LPs were “operated under . . . operating
    18  The Bankruptcy Code includes three other definitions of “affiliate,” none of which
    are applicable here.
    19 We are not alone in reaching such a conclusion, see In re Minton Grp., Inc., 
    27 B.R. 385
    , 389 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 1983) (concluding that LP is affiliate of general partner debtor who
    “operates all of the business and manages all of the property of the limited partnership under
    a limited partnership agreement”), aff’d, 
    46 B.R. 222
     (S.D.N.Y. 1985); cf. Jenkins v.
    Tomlinson (In re Basin Res. Corp.), 
    190 B.R. 824
    , 826–27 (Bankr. N.D. Tex. 1996) (concluding
    that joint venture agreements constitute operating agreements), and we are aware of no court
    that has held that LP agreements do not constitute “operating agreements” under the
    Bankruptcy Code, cf. In re Wash. Mut., Inc., 
    462 B.R. 137
    , 145–46 (Bankr. D. Del. 2011)
    (“Debtors have not adequately proven that the Pooling and Servicing Agreements constitute
    an operating agreement under the plain meaning of the statute.”). Templeton relies on In re
    SemCrude, L.P., 
    436 B.R. 317
     (Bankr. D. Del. 2010), in arguing that LP agreements are not
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    agreement[s] by a debtor.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (2)(C) (emphasis added). We first
    note that the statute is unclear as to whether the “by a debtor” phrase is meant
    to modify the word “operated” or the phrase “operating agreement.” Applying
    the former construction, it is clear that all of the LPs were “operated . . . by”
    AHF, as Templeton himself concedes: “AHF, as general partner of the [LPs] (or
    otherwise in control of the general partner of the [LPs]) had legitimate control
    of those entities giving AHF control over whatever revenue or income came to
    those entities.” Under the latter construction, for which Templeton advocates,
    the operating agreement itself must be “by a debtor”—which may imply that
    the debtor must be a party to that agreement.                     But even under that
    construction, we conclude that the LP agreements are agreements “by” AHF.
    We easily reach this conclusion with respect to the LPs for which AHF served
    as a general partner—i.e., GOZ and Walden II—as AHF was a party to those
    LP agreements. But even for the LPs in which a wholly-owned subsidiary of
    AHF served as a general partner—M2M-2, M2M-3, and Gray Ranch—we
    conclude that those LP agreements were agreements “by” AHF within the
    meaning of the Bankruptcy Code. Even though AHF was not a direct party to
    those agreements, it is undisputed that AHF, through Sterquell, had complete
    control over these LPs. The bankruptcy court made the following factual
    findings with respect to this issue:
    Even where an AHF subsidiary was the named general partner in
    a partnership agreement with Templeton, AHF (and, really,
    Sterquell) was the party in full control. Any intermediary did not
    affect AHF’s (or Sterquell’s) control. . . . As Templeton himself has
    stated, Sterquell, and by association, AHF, exerted total control
    over all aspects of the Templeton Deals. This control was
    operating agreements, but in that case, the court determined that an LP was not an affiliate
    under the Bankruptcy Code because “[n]o . . . operating agreement was introduced into
    evidence” and the existence of an LP was only “mentioned” in hearings and briefs. 
    Id. at 321
    .
    Here, all of the LP agreements are contained in the record.
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    formalized by the partnership agreements and the formalized
    relationship between the partnerships and AHF or a wholly owned
    conduit.
    Templeton gives us no reason to question these factual findings. It is therefore
    clear that, as a factual matter, AHF was the operator of these LPs despite the
    fact that it was not a formal party to the LP agreements. Accordingly, we hold
    that these agreements were operating agreements “by” AHF, as the wholly-
    owned subsidiaries were only shell entities and, in the words of the Bankruptcy
    Court, “conduit[s]” through which AHF acted.
    We recognize that this conclusion is in tension with decisions reached by
    several bankruptcy courts. See In re Wash. Mut., Inc., 
    462 B.R. at 146
     (holding
    that “because the agreement in question is between two non-debtors, it cannot
    provide a basis for subordination under section 101(2)(C),” and rejecting the
    argument that “mere ‘control’ of an entity is sufficient to ignore its legal
    separateness”); In re SemCrude, L.P., 
    436 B.R. at 321
     (“[E]ven if the Debtors
    could show that the partnership agreement is a lease or operating agreement,
    the agreement is between two non-debtors.”); In re Sporting Club at Ill. Ctr.,
    
    132 B.R. 792
    , 797 (Bankr. N.D. Ga. 1991) (determining that entity was not an
    affiliate of debtor for purposes of venue statute where the debtors were not
    “parties to any lease or operating agreement”); In re Maruki USA Co., 
    97 B.R. 166
    , 169 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 1988) (rejecting, for purposes of venue statute,
    argument that entity was affiliate of debtor where debtor owned 100% of stock
    of entity’s general partner). These cases—to which we are not bound—have
    applied unduly strict interpretations of the phrase “agreement by a debtor,” 
    11 U.S.C. § 101
    (2)(C), ignoring that an agreement may functionally be “by” the
    debtor even where the debtor is not a party to the agreement. We see no reason
    why the existence of a shell conduit between a debtor and an entity—which in
    no way inhibits the debtor’s ability to control and operate that entity—should
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    preclude a finding of affiliate status. The In re Washington Mutual court relied
    in part on the theory underlying Section 510(b), reasoning that the claimant
    “should be treated like any other creditor of [the debtor] because [the claimant]
    never assumed the risks of a . . . shareholder” of the debtor, but rather assumed
    only the risks of a shareholder of a separate entity. In re Wash. Mut., Inc., 
    462 B.R. at 147
    . But this line of reasoning would seem to preclude mandatory
    subordination of any claim arising from the purchase of an affiliate’s securities
    (since the securities of the affiliate are not shares in the debtor)—a result at
    odds with the plain language of Section 510(b).              Rather, Congress clearly
    intended that claims arising from the purchase of securities of entities over
    which the debtor exercised sufficient control—i.e., entities which qualify as
    affiliates under the Bankruptcy Code—be treated no differently than claims
    arising from the purchase of securities of the debtor itself. See Alan N. Resnick
    & Henry J. Sommer, Collier on Bankruptcy ¶ 510.04[04] (16th ed. 2014)
    (“Section 510(b) applies whether the securities were issued by the debtor or by
    an affiliate of the debtor.”).
    Because each of Templeton’s claims is a claim for damages arising from
    the purchase of securities of AHF’s affiliates, we hold that Section 510(b)
    mandates the subordination of those claims.              Accordingly, we affirm the
    bankruptcy court’s judgment with respect to subordination. 20
    20  Templeton also argues that AHF is liable to Templeton as the general partner of
    GOZ and Walden II, correctly noting that, “in a limited partnership, the general partner is
    always liable for the debts and obligations of the partnership.” Asshauer v. Wells Fargo
    Foothill, 
    263 S.W.3d 468
    , 474 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2008, no pet.). However, Templeton fails
    to identify what debts or obligations—independent of the liquidated or unliquidated claims—
    these LPs directly owed Templeton. Assuming Templeton is referring to the Walden II LP
    agreement’s promise to repay Templeton’s initial capital contribution (the GOZ LP
    agreement contains no such promise), and assuming the validity of that promise (which the
    Trustee challenges), we nonetheless conclude that any claim arising from such a promise
    must be subordinated under Section 510(b) for the same reasons as compel subordination of
    the guaranty-based, liquidated claims. The fact that the promise is contained in the LP
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    B.     Trustee’s Objections to Templeton’s Claim
    The bankruptcy court declined to rule on the Trustee’s various objections
    to the validity of Templeton’s Claim in light of its decision to subordinate the
    Claim.      The Trustee, perhaps recognizing that the practical effect of
    subordinating Templeton’s claim to Class 18 is that Templeton will receive
    nothing, cross-appeals as to these issues only “[t]o the extent this Court
    reverses the bankruptcy court’s order subordinating the Claim.” Accordingly,
    because we affirm with respect to subordination, we need not reach the
    Trustee’s objections.
    C.     Preferential Transfers under Section 547
    Templeton also challenges the bankruptcy court’s decision to grant the
    Trustee’s cause of action for the avoidance and recovery of preferential
    transfers pursuant to Section 547(b) of the Bankruptcy Code. This provision
    generally allows trustees to “avoid any transfer of an interest of the debtor in
    property” made to creditors “on or within 90 days before the date of the filing
    of the petition.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 547
    (b). The transfers at issue here amount to
    $157,500 Templeton and his wife received from the AHFD account in the
    ninety days leading up to AHF’s bankruptcy. 21                 Templeton contends that
    avoidance of these transfers was improper because: (1) the funds in the AHFD
    account were not funds of AHF, and (2) the payments fall within the ordinary
    course of business exception to the avoidance of preferential transfers.
    1.      Property of Debtor
    Templeton first argues that the transferred funds were not “interest[s]
    of the debtor in property,” 
    11 U.S.C. § 547
    (b), as those funds were held in and
    agreement itself, and not in a separate guaranty, only solidifies the conclusion that this claim
    “aris[es] from the purchase . . . of . . . a security” of Walden II. 
    11 U.S.C. § 510
    (b).
    21 Templeton asserts that these payments were “quarterly preferred return payments
    provided for in Templeton’s transaction with Walden II.”
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    transferred from the AHFD account—of which AHF was not a legal titleholder,
    see Southmark Corp. v. Grosz (In re Southmark Corp.), 
    49 F.3d 1111
    , 1115 (5th
    Cir. 1995) (“A preliminary requisite [under Section 547(b)] is that the transfer
    involve property of the debtor’s estate.”). Whether these funds constituted
    property of AHF is a question of state law. See Stettner v. Smith (In re IFS
    Fin. Corp.), 
    669 F.3d 255
    , 261–62 (5th Cir. 2012) (applying Texas law to
    determine whether, under Section 544(b) of the Bankruptcy Code, bank
    accounts constituted “an interest of the debtor in property”); see also Butner v.
    United States, 
    440 U.S. 48
    , 54 (1979) (“Congress has generally left the
    determination of property rights in the assets of a bankrupt’s estate to state
    law.”).
    Although AHF was not the legal titleholder to the AHFD account, “Texas
    law counsels that the legal titleholder to a bank account is not always the
    owner of its contents.” In re IFS Fin. Corp., 
    669 F.3d at 262
    . Rather, an entity
    can be a “de facto” owner of a bank account if it has a sufficient level of control
    over the account. See id.; see also In re Southmark Corp., 
    49 F.3d at
    1116 n.17
    (“[I]t is undisputed that Southmark controlled the funds in the Payroll Account
    and that it could have paid them to anyone, including its own creditors. For
    the purposes of preference law, therefore, the money in Southmark’s Payroll
    Account is treated as part of Southmark’s estate, whether or not Southmark
    actually owns it.”). Thus, in In re IFS Financial Corp., this court held that a
    debtor had a property interest in bank accounts to which it was not a legal
    titleholder where the “record reflect[ed] that [the debtor] exercised such control
    over these accounts that it had de facto ownership over these accounts, as well
    as the funds they contained.” 
    669 F.3d at 264
     (“[T]he facts support the district
    court’s and bankruptcy court’s findings that [the debtor] dominated these
    subsidiaries to such an extent that the subsidiaries acted at [the debtor]’s
    24
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    direction and that the directors and stockholders utilized the corporate entity
    as a sham to perpetuate a fraud.”). The court reasoned that “control is decisive,
    and that legal title is irrelevant where, as here, a debtor organization has taken
    care to mask its activities through fictional divisions.” 
    Id. at 263
    .
    The present case is materially indistinguishable. The bankruptcy court
    found that AHFD “was an entity controlled by AHF and Sterquell and used by
    AHF and Sterquell as a conduit bank account,” and that “payments made to
    Templeton out of the [AHFD] account within ninety days of the filing of the
    Bankruptcy Case were with funds from an account wholly controlled by AHF
    and, therefore, constitute payments from AHF.” These findings—with which
    Templeton apparently agreed in prior proceedings 22—are not clearly
    erroneous. Templeton argues that Sterquell, rather than AHF, controlled the
    account. But Templeton concedes that Sterquell made various transfers from
    the AHFD account on AHF’s behalf—e.g., to pay AHF’s “ordinary needs and
    expenditures.” Accordingly, we find no clear error in the bankruptcy court’s
    conclusions regarding AHF’s control (and, consequently, its de facto
    ownership) of the AHFD account, at least with respect to the funds at issue. 23
    Templeton also asserts a constructive trust theory on appeal, arguing
    that because the AHFD account “was the res of a constructive trust, . . . AHF
    never gained title to those funds.”           However, Templeton has waived this
    argument by failing to sufficiently raise it before the bankruptcy court.
    22 We need not decide, however, whether Templeton’s arguments as to this issue are
    precluded on the basis of issue preclusion or judicial estoppel.
    23 Templeton also argues that a “control theory” should not apply here, given that AHF
    served as a general partner in AHFD and a general partner always exercises dominion and
    control over an LP’s property. However, the bankruptcy court did not merely find that AHF
    controlled the AHFD account funds vis-à-vis its role as general partner. Rather, the
    bankruptcy court determined that the AHFD account was a “conduit” wholly controlled by
    AHF—and, as Templeton admits, used by AHF for its own purposes.
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    Templeton correctly notes that he alleged a constructive trust theory in his
    Claim, but, as the bankruptcy court noted, a constructive trust theory “w[as]
    not raised at trial.” It does not appear that Templeton mentioned, much less
    adequately briefed, a constructive trust theory in either his pre- or post-trial
    briefing—thus depriving the bankruptcy court an adequate opportunity to rule
    on the issue. “If an argument is not raised to such a degree that the [trial]
    court has an opportunity to rule on it, we will not address it on appeal.” Nasti
    v. CIBA Specialty Chems. Corp., 
    492 F.3d 589
    , 595 (5th Cir. 2007) (internal
    quotation marks omitted); see also Butler Aviation Int’l, Inc. v. Whyte (In re
    Fairchild Aircraft Corp.), 
    6 F.3d 1119
    , 1128 (5th Cir. 1993) (stating, in the
    bankruptcy context, that “the argument must be raised to such a degree that
    the trial court may rule on it” to avoid waiver).
    2.     Ordinary Course of Business Defense
    Templeton next argues that the ordinary course of business defense
    applies to these transfers. 24 Under that defense, a trustee may not avoid a
    transfer under Section 547:
    to the extent that such transfer was in payment of a debt incurred
    by the debtor in the ordinary course of business or financial affairs
    of the debtor and the transferee, and such transfer was—
    (A) made in the ordinary course of business or financial
    affairs of the debtor and the transferee; or
    (B) made according to ordinary business terms;
    
    11 U.S.C. § 547
    (c)(2). “[T]he ordinary course of business defense provides a
    safe haven for a creditor who continues to conduct normal business on normal
    terms.” Gulf City Seafoods, Inc. v. Ludwig Shrimp Co., Inc. (In re Gulf City
    24 Although the ordinary course of business defense was raised by Templeton in the
    joint pretrial order and in his post-trial briefing, the bankruptcy court did not address that
    defense in its order.
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    Seafoods, Inc.), 
    296 F.3d 363
    , 367 (5th Cir. 2002). This court has explained
    that, “[w]ithout this defense, the moment that a debtor faced financial
    difficulties, creditors would have an incentive to discontinue all dealings with
    that debtor and refuse to extend new credit.” 
    Id.
     Thus, “[l]acking credit, the
    debtor would face almost insurmountable odds in its attempt to make its way
    back from the edge of bankruptcy.” 
    Id.
    Templeton argues that the payments at issue here—interest payments
    on his Walden II investments—were regularly made for over a year before
    Section 547(b)’s preference period began, and were therefore made in the
    ordinary course of business. The Trustee does not dispute this history of
    payments, but rather asserts that the transfers could not have been made in
    the ordinary course of business because they “were made in furtherance of the
    Ponzi scheme and Sterquell’s fraud.” 25 The Trustee relies on a line of cases
    narrowly holding that “a Ponzi scheme is not a business, and that transfers
    related to the scheme are not within the ‘ordinary course of business.’”
    Henderson v. Buchanan, 
    985 F.2d 1021
    , 1025 (9th Cir. 1993); see Danning v.
    Bozek (In re Bullion Reserve of N. Am.), 
    836 F.2d 1214
    , 1219 (9th Cir. 1988);
    Graulty v. Brooks (In re Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham & Wong, Inc.),
    
    819 F.2d 214
    , 216–17 (9th Cir. 1987); see also Sender v. Nancy Elizabeth R.
    Heggland Family Trust (In re Hedged-Invs. Assocs., Inc.), 
    48 F.3d 470
    , 475–76
    (10th Cir. 1995) (rejecting rule that would “prohibit[] application of the
    ordinary course of business defense for all transfers made in the course of a
    Ponzi scheme” and instead adopting the “narrower proposition that transfers
    to investors [in the course of a Ponzi scheme] are not entitled to the ordinary
    25 Although we hesitate to be absolute about the contents of a 20,000+ page record,
    the Ponzi scheme argument does not appear to have been raised in the bankruptcy court. We
    address the issue because the district court ruled on this basis and it has been fully briefed
    in our court.
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    course of business exception.”). The Fifth Circuit has similarly held, in the
    context of another ordinary course of business exception within the
    Bankruptcy Code (Section 546(e)), 26 that “‘[t]ransfers made in a ‘Ponzi’ scheme
    are not made in the ordinary course of business.’” Wider v. Wootton, 
    907 F.2d 570
    , 572 (5th Cir. 1990) (quoting In re Bullion Reserve of N. Am., 
    985 F.2d at 1219
    ). Notably, these cases all involved true Ponzi schemes—i.e., operations
    built on the collection of funds from new investments to pay off prior investors.
    See Henderson, 
    985 F.2d at 1023
     (“[T]he whole operation amounted to a Ponzi
    scheme.”); In re Bullion Reserve of N. Am., 
    836 F.2d at
    1219 n.8 (“The record
    indicates that BRNA was conducting such a [Ponzi] scheme when it used newly
    acquired funds, from its comingled accounts, to buy bullion for customers who
    demanded their metal.”); In re Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham & Wong,
    Inc., 
    819 F.2d at 216
     (“Brooks does not dispute that the debtor was operating
    a Ponzi scheme . . . .”); In re Hedged-Invs. Assocs., Inc., 
    48 F.3d at 471
     (“The
    essence of the scheme was to attract investors by guaranteeing substantial
    returns from stock options trading.          Mr. Donahue paid ‘profits’ to earlier
    investors with the investment capital of later investors, publicly reporting false
    earnings as ‘proof’ of his success.”); Wider, 
    907 F.2d at 572
     (“Cohen satisfied
    outstanding debts with older clients—including the debt owed Wider on the
    bounced checks—from the funds he acquired from later clients. In common
    industry parlance, Cohen operated a ‘Ponzi’ scheme.”).
    AHF’s business does not constitute a Ponzi scheme for purposes of this
    exception. The Trustee points to some evidence in the record that there was
    26   In Wider, we suggested that the analysis of the exception under Section 546(e)
    should be the same as that under 547(c)(2). See Wider, 
    907 F.2d at
    572 n.1 (“[T]his Court
    fails to see how a Ponzi scheme could be in the ordinary course of business for purposes of
    the stockholder defense, but not in the ordinary course of business for purposes of the
    preference provisions.”).
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    “an element of a Ponzi scheme” in the business, but that evidence shows that
    only a portion of the funds collected by AHF (Templeton estimates 9%) was
    used to pay Ponzi-like returns to investors. In any event, the record is clear
    that AHF engaged in substantial legitimate business—owning or controlling
    approximately 14,000 housing units.         Indeed, the Trustee asserted in the
    Disclosure Statement that “AHF and its tax-credit limited partners were
    engaged in the legitimate affordable housing business.”           Although that
    business appears to have deteriorated over time—leading to Sterquell’s and
    AHF’s later misuse of funds—this does not render the business a Ponzi scheme.
    The theory underlying the Ponzi exception to the ordinary course of business
    defense is that “Ponzi schemes simply are not legitimate business enterprises
    which Congress intended to protect with section 547(c)(2).”        In re Bishop,
    Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham & Wong, Inc., 
    819 F.2d at 217
    ; see also
    Henderson, 
    985 F.2d at 1025
     (“[A] Ponzi scheme is not a business . . . .”); In re
    Bullion Reserve of N. Am., 
    836 F.2d at 1219
     (“Congress intended the ordinary
    course of business exception to apply only to transfers by legitimate business
    enterprises.”). Expanding this exception—as no other court, apparently, has
    done—to cover legitimate businesses in which there were some fraudulent or
    Ponzi-like transactions is inconsistent with this theory. Accordingly, because
    the business at issue here is not a true Ponzi scheme, the transfers do not fall
    within the narrow Ponzi scheme exception to the ordinary course of business
    defense.
    Therefore, we reverse the judgment granting the avoidance and recovery
    of the $157,500 in purportedly preferential transfers and remand for further
    proceedings addressing, inter alia, the ordinary course of business defense
    raised by Templeton. We intimate no view on the outcome.
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    D.     Fraudulent Transfers under Section 548
    The Trustee also seeks the avoidance and recovery of approximately $1
    million in purportedly fraudulent transfers made from the AHFD account to
    Templeton and his wife between May 1, 2005, and February 2, 2009. The
    fraudulent transfer provision of the Bankruptcy Code states, in relevant part:
    The trustee may avoid any transfer . . . of an interest of the debtor
    in property . . . that was made or incurred on or within 2 years
    before the date of the filing of the petition, if the debtor voluntarily
    or involuntarily—
    (A) made such transfer or incurred such obligation with
    actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any entity to which
    the debtor was or became, on or after the date that such
    transfer was made or such obligation was incurred,
    indebted; or
    (B)(i) received less than a reasonably equivalent value in
    exchange for such transfer or obligation; and
    (ii)(I) was insolvent on the date that such transfer was made
    or such obligation was incurred, or became insolvent as a
    result of such transfer or obligation;
    
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (a)(1). 27 Subsection (A) is referred to as the “actual fraud”
    provision, while subsection (B) is referred to as the “constructive fraud”
    provision. Jimmy Swaggart Ministries v. Hayes (In re Hannover Corp.), 
    310 F.3d 796
    , 799 (5th Cir. 2002).
    The bankruptcy court did not address whether the transfers were
    fraudulent, instead concluding that Templeton is entitled to the good faith
    defense under Section 548(c). That provision states:
    27 The Trustee asserts in his reply brief that “[w]hile the bankruptcy [court] only
    discussed section 548 [in its order], the Trustee asserts claims under section 544 and [the
    Texas Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act (“TUFTA”)], as well.” However, the Trustee—who
    is cross-appealing as to this issue—failed to raise either Section 544 or TUFTA in his opening
    brief on appeal. Accordingly, those claims are waived. See Flex Frac Logistics, L.L.C. v.
    N.L.R.B., 
    746 F.3d 205
    , 208 (5th Cir. 2014) (“Ordinarily, arguments raised for the first time
    in a reply brief are waived.”).
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    Except to the extent that a transfer or obligation voidable under
    this section is voidable under section 544, 545, or 547 of this title,
    a transferee or obligee of such a transfer or obligation that takes
    for value and in good faith has a lien on or may retain any interest
    transferred or may enforce any obligation incurred, as the case
    may be, to the extent that such transferee or obligee gave value to
    the debtor in exchange for such transfer or obligation.
    
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c). The bankruptcy court concluded that Templeton “no doubt
    gave value in the amount of each of his investments,” finding that “Templeton’s
    investments well exceed the transfers.” The court also disagreed with the
    Trustee’s assertion that “Templeton’s participation in Sterquell’s illegitimate
    tax schemes defeats his good faith claim,” given that “any complicity by
    Templeton with Sterquell concerning illegitimate tax deals did not defraud
    other creditors of AHF.” The Trustee contends that the bankruptcy court’s
    conclusion as to good faith was in error because: (1) Templeton did not give
    value to AHF, and (2) Templeton did not do so in good faith.
    First, Templeton may be entitled to the good faith defense only “to the
    extent [he] gave value to [AHF] in exchange for” the transfers at issue. 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (c). Under Section 548, “‘value’ means property, or satisfaction or
    securing of a present or antecedent debt of the debtor, but does not include an
    unperformed promise to furnish support to the debtor or to a relative of the
    debtor.” 
    11 U.S.C. § 548
    (d)(2)(A). A finding of value is reviewed for clear error,
    as that determination is “largely a question of fact, as to which considerable
    latitude must be allowed to the trier of the facts.” In re Hannover Corp., 
    310 F.3d at 801
     (internal quotation marks omitted). However, “we review de novo
    the methodology employed by the bankruptcy court in assigning values to the
    property transferred and the consideration received.” 
    Id.
     (internal quotation
    marks omitted).      Moreover, “for purposes of § 548 the value of an
    investment . . . is to be determined at the time of purchase.” Id. at 802. Courts
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    generally construe the term “value” broadly for purposes of the Bankruptcy
    Code.        See In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 
    6 F.3d at 1127
     (“Courts have
    considered such indirect financial effects as, for example, the synergy realized
    from joining two enterprises, the increase in a credit line, and the increased
    monetary ‘float’ resulting from guarantying the loans of another, as
    constituting value received under § 548.” (footnotes omitted)); see also Pension
    Transfer Corp. v. Beneficiaries Under the Third Amendment to Fruehauf
    Trailer Corp. Ret. Plan No. 003 (In re Fruehauf Trailer Corp.), 
    444 F.3d 203
    ,
    212 (3d        Cir.   2006)   (“We    have    interpreted     ‘value’    to   include    any
    benefit, . . . whether direct or indirect. . . . [T]he mere opportunity to receive an
    economic benefit in the future constitutes ‘value’ under the Bankruptcy Code.”
    (internal citation, quotation marks, and brackets omitted)).
    The Trustee argues that Templeton did not give value to the debtor,
    AHF, in view of the facts that he made investments in the LPs and, “[a]t the
    time of the transaction[s], Templeton did not believe that he was giving value
    to AHF.” 28      The Trustee relies heavily on the following statement in the
    bankruptcy court’s order: “By the very structure of each of the Templeton
    Deals, AHF received nothing in return for its guaranty. In each instance, AHF
    is, per the deal, nothing more than a fractional interest holder in the limited
    partnership into which Templeton’s investment dollars were to flow.”
    However, as discussed above, the bankruptcy court also stated that Templeton
    We note that the Trustee’s focus on Templeton’s belief at the time of the investments
    28
    appears misplaced. Rather, “the recognized test is whether the investment conferred an
    economic benefit on the debtor; which benefit is appropriately valued as of the time the
    investment was made.” In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 
    6 F.3d at 1127
     (footnote omitted).
    Although the In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp. court was interpreting the term “reasonably
    equivalent value” under Section 548(a)(2), 
    id.
     at 1125–27, this court has suggested that the
    same analysis applies to the interpretation of value under Section 548(c), In re Hannover
    Corp., 
    310 F.3d at 801
    .
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    “no doubt gave value in the amount of each of his investments,” and
    “Templeton’s investments well exceed the transfers.” These factual findings
    are difficult to reconcile. Moreover, although the bankruptcy court concluded
    that “AHF . . . was the party in full control” of the LPs, the bankruptcy court
    made no factual findings regarding when, how, and to what degree Sterquell
    and AHF diverted Templeton’s investments to AHF for its own use. 29 Thus,
    we are not in a position to determine whether, at the time of each of his
    investments, Templeton gave value to AHF. 30
    With respect to whether Templeton entered into the transactions at
    issue in good faith, we agree with the Trustee that the bankruptcy court
    applied the wrong standard. In finding good faith, the bankruptcy court relied
    exclusively on its determination that Templeton’s actions did not defraud other
    creditors of AHF. That is not the test for good faith. Although this court has
    not announced a definitive definition of good faith under Section 548(c) in a
    published case, see In re Hannover Corp., 
    310 F.3d at
    800–01 (noting that
    “there is little agreement among courts regarding the appropriate legal
    standard for this defense” and declining to “propound a broad rule concerning
    29  For example, there are no findings regarding what portion of Templeton’s
    investments was used for the LPs’ legitimate business, compared to the portion of those funds
    used by AHF for its own benefit. Nor are there any findings as to when AHF, through
    Sterquell, took action to divert the funds.
    30 The Trustee argues that we can reverse and render judgment in its favor on this
    issue based on the present record, relying on another case arising from similar claims in
    AHF’s bankruptcy proceedings, Horton v. O’Cheskey (In re Am. Hous. Found.), 544 F. App’x
    516 (5th Cir. 2013) (unpublished). In Horton, which involved similar LP investments, we
    held that “the bankruptcy court’s finding that AHF did not receive any value in exchange for
    its guaranty [of the LP investment] was not clearly erroneous” where “AHF had a 0.01%
    partnership interest in [the LP] at the time of the exchange.” Id. at 520. This holding may
    be in some tension with the broad construction given to “value” under the Bankruptcy Code.
    See In re Fairchild Aircraft Corp., 
    6 F.3d at 1127
    ; In re Fruehauf Trailer Corp., 
    444 F.3d at 212
    . In any event, given the conflicting factual findings of the bankruptcy court here, we
    deem it appropriate to remand with respect to this issue.
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    ‘good faith’”), we have stated in an unpublished case that we must “look to
    whether the claimant was on notice of the debtor’s insolvency or the fraudulent
    nature of the transaction.” Horton, 544 F. App’x at 520. We further stated:
    The good faith test under Section 548(c) is generally presented as
    a two-step inquiry. The first question typically posed is whether
    the transferee had information that put it on inquiry notice that
    the transferor was insolvent or that the transfer might be made
    with a fraudulent purpose. While the cases frequently cite either
    fraud or insolvency, these two elements are consistently identified
    as the triggers for inquiry notice. The fraud or insolvency
    predicate is set forth in countless cases . . . .
    . . . The weight of the authority . . . indicates that a court should
    focus on the circumstances specific to the transfer at issue—that
    is, whether a transferee reasonably should have known . . . of the
    fraudulent intent underlying the transfer.
    Once a transferee has been put on inquiry notice of either the
    transferor’s possible insolvency or of the possibly fraudulent
    purpose of the transfer, the transferee must satisfy a “diligent
    investigation” requirement.
    
    Id.
     (quoting Christian Bros. High Sch. Endowment v. Bayou No Leverage Fund,
    LLC (In re Bayou Grp., LLC), 
    439 B.R. 284
    , 310–12 (S.D.N.Y. 2010)). The
    parties do not dispute that this is the appropriate test for determining good
    faith under Section 548(c).
    The bankruptcy court did not apply this test below. Even assuming the
    bankruptcy court was correct in determining that Templeton’s actions did not
    defraud creditors, this does not answer the question of whether Templeton was
    aware (or on inquiry notice) of AHF’s insolvency or fraud. Given that this
    determination may hinge in part on questions of credibility and Templeton’s
    state of mind with respect to various transactions, see In re Hannover Corp.,
    
    310 F.3d at 800
     (“The most important set of questions [in the good faith
    inquiry] concerns the transferee’s state of mind.”), it would be prudent for the
    bankruptcy court to apply this test in the first instance.
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    We therefore reverse and remand so that the bankruptcy court may
    address both issues underlying the applicability of the good faith defense—
    whether Templeton gave value in exchange for the transfers and whether he
    did so in good faith—in a manner consistent with this opinion. 31
    IV.    Conclusion
    For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM the subordination of Templeton’s
    claim and REVERSE the bankruptcy court’s rulings on the alleged preferential
    and fraudulent transfers and REMAND for further proceedings consistent
    with this opinion.
    31 In addition, if the bankruptcy court deems the good faith defense inapplicable, it
    must determine in the first instance whether the transfers were either actually or
    constructively fraudulent.
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