Thomas McBride v. Sharon Riley ( 2019 )


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  •       Case: 18-30535          Document: 00514954686        Page: 1   Date Filed: 05/13/2019
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    No. 18-30535
    FILED
    May 13, 2019
    Lyle W. Cayce
    In the Matter of: SHARON BOYD RILEY                                                Clerk
    Debtor
    ----------------------------------------------------
    THOMAS C. MCBRIDE; MCBRIDE LAW FIRM; THOMAS C. MCBRIDE,
    L.L.C.; JOSEPH MOORE; E. ORUM YOUNG LAW, L.L.C.,
    Appellants
    v.
    SHARON BOYD RILEY; JON C. THORNBURG; E. EUGENE HASTINGS,
    Appellees
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Western District of Louisiana
    Before REAVLEY, ELROD and WILLETT, Circuit Judges.
    JENNIFER WALKER ELROD, Circuit Judge:
    This appeal concerns a dispute between the Bankruptcy Court for the
    Western District of Louisiana and Chapter 13 debtor’s attorneys in that
    district, with two Chapter 13 trustees representing the position of the
    bankruptcy court. That dispute involves no-money-down business models,
    wherein the debtor’s attorney agrees to advance the costs of filing fees, credit
    counseling course fees, and credit report fees on behalf of the debtor. The
    appellants contend that when they request their compensation under the
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    bankruptcy court’s “no-look fee” arrangement, those three fees should be
    reimbursable outside of (and in addition to) the permissible no-look fee
    amount. The bankruptcy court disagreed, concluding that those fees are not
    only non-reimbursable under the district’s no-look fee order, but also that by
    statute they could never be reimbursed at all.       Appellants challenge the
    bankruptcy court’s interpretation of statute and of its own standing order.
    Holding that the bankruptcy court did not err in interpreting its own standing
    order on no-look fee compensation, but that it did err in its conclusion that
    bankruptcy courts lack the discretion to ever award reimbursement of those
    fees, we AFFIRM in part and VACATE in part.
    I.
    A.
    Generally speaking, debtor’s attorneys seek to have their compensation
    categorized as an “administrative expense” of the bankrupt estate under 11
    U.S.C. § 503. If so categorized, they receive priority in receiving payment from
    the estate second only to domestic support obligations. See 11 U.S.C. § 507(a).
    Chapter 13 bankruptcy enables individuals with regular income to
    develop a plan to repay their debts. See generally 11 U.S.C. §§ 1301–30. There
    are effectively two ways that a Chapter 13 debtor’s attorney representing an
    individual can have the payments owed to them categorized as an
    administrative expense: (1) if the payments are necessary expenses to preserve
    the estate under § 503(b)(1); or (2) if the payments are compensation or
    reimbursement under § 503(b)(2) (which links to 11 U.S.C. § 330(a), which, in
    turn, under § 330(a)(4)(B), permits “reasonable compensation” for attorneys
    based on services rendered).
    The default process for determining how much compensation for debtor’s
    counsel is reasonable—and thus how much will be given collection priority as
    an “administrative expense” of the estate—is a formal fee application with a
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    detailed statement of services rendered and expenses incurred. See Federal
    Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 2016(a). However, to fast-track that process for
    routine cases, most bankruptcy courts have instituted local rules which
    establish the parameters for requesting the “no-look” payment of attorney’s
    fees. Though the details vary by bankruptcy court, the no-look fee option
    generally says that if debtor’s counsel charges no more than a given amount
    for a given case, the attorney’s fee will be treated as presumptively reasonable
    under § 330(a), with no need to provide a detailed accounting unless the
    request is challenged. See 1 Bankruptcy Law Manual § 4:40 (5th ed.) (Dec.
    2018 update). This court has approved the practice of bankruptcy courts
    implementing no-look fee options for compensating debtor’s counsel. See In re
    Cahill, 
    428 F.3d 536
    , 540–42 (5th Cir. 2005).
    B.
    The Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Louisiana has a
    standing order governing such no-look fees for Chapter 13 actions. Prior to
    February 2017, that standing order explicitly stated that any advances made
    by debtor’s counsel for pre-filing expenses were accounted for in the no-look fee
    amount and therefore not separately reimbursable. In February 2017, that
    standing order was amended in a variety of ways. Pertinent to this appeal, the
    February 2017 order no longer included the provision specifying that pre-filing
    expenses advanced by debtor’s counsel were not separately reimbursable
    against the estate.
    Appellant Thomas McBride represents Sharon Riley as debtor’s counsel
    in a Chapter 13 action in the Western District of Louisiana. On February 2,
    2017—the day after the new standing order went into effect—McBride entered
    into a no-money-down arrangement with Riley, wherein she agreed to pay him
    $2,150.00 for his legal services and an additional $367.00 for advancing the
    costs of the filing fee, credit counseling fee, and a credit report fee. McBride
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    paid those fees, then—along with other debtor’s counsel in the district 1—
    requested reimbursement under the no-look fee system (separate from, and in
    addition to, the permissible no-look fee).
    A Chapter 13 trustee for the district sought clarification from the
    bankruptcy court as to whether those three fees were now separately
    reimbursable as administrative expenses of the estate under the no-look fee
    system. The bankruptcy court held a hearing on the matter in April 2017, and,
    in September 2017, it issued an order holding that those fees were not
    separately reimbursable under the new standing order. The bankruptcy court
    rejected McBride’s argument that the new standing order now permitted
    separate reimbursement of those fees, and it rejected McBride’s argument that
    reimbursement of those fees was mandatory under 11 U.S.C. § 503(b)(1) as
    expenses necessary to preserve the estate. However, the bankruptcy court
    then went a step further and stated that even if McBride’s application were
    construed to be a formal fee application (rather than the no-look fee request
    that it was), the filing fee, credit counseling fee, and credit report fee could
    never be reimbursable as compensation under § 330(a).
    The bankruptcy court’s order denied similar requests in eighteen other
    cases pending in the district at the time. McBride, joined by debtor’s counsel
    from two of the eighteen other cases, appealed the bankruptcy court’s decision
    to the district court. The district court adopted the reasoning of the bankruptcy
    court and affirmed its judgment.
    On appeal to this court, McBride and co-appellants repeat the arguments
    that they made before the district court. Two Chapter 13 trustees from the
    Western District of Louisiana are technically the appellees in this case;
    1The bankruptcy court noted that McBride effectively became the spokesperson for
    the debtor’s counsel bar in that district, as they all adopted and repeated his argument when
    requesting reimbursement of these fees in their own cases.
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    however, their brief generally summarizes the points articulated by the
    bankruptcy court in its original order. 2 After oral argument, we asked the
    acting U.S. Trustee for Region 5 whether he took a position on the issues raised
    in this case, and his brief in response indicated agreement with the bankruptcy
    court and the Chapter 13 trustees. 3
    II.
    When a district court reviews a bankruptcy court’s decision, we review
    the district court’s decision by applying the same standards that were applied
    by the district court. In re Scopac, 
    624 F.3d 274
    , 279–80 (5th Cir. 2010). We
    generally review the award of attorney’s fees for abuse of discretion. In re Coho
    Energy Inc., 
    395 F.3d 198
    , 204 (5th Cir. 2004). However, the legal conclusions
    underlying a determination of attorney’s fees are reviewed de novo. 
    Id. When we
    review a bankruptcy court’s interpretation of its own orders, purely legal
    questions are reviewed de novo. In re Nat’l Gypsum Co., 
    219 F.3d 478
    , 484 (5th
    Cir. 2000). As such, the parties agree that the standard of review for all issues
    in this appeal is de novo.
    III.
    On appeal, McBride argues that the bankruptcy court and district court
    committed legal error in three ways: (1) by concluding that the fees are not
    reimbursable under the February 2017 no-look fee standing order; (2) by
    2Because the points made by the appellees in their briefs on appeal—as well as those
    made by the district court in its judgment—are essentially re-assertions of the points made
    in the bankruptcy court’s order, though with less analytical depth and rigor, this opinion is
    written to respond to the issues as articulated by the bankruptcy court’s order.
    3 The acting U.S. Trustee’s brief generally supports those of the Chapter 13 trustees
    and aligns with the conclusions reached by the bankruptcy court and district court. However,
    if taken at face value, the U.S. Trustee’s brief appears to go even further and assert that
    debtor’s counsel may never be reimbursed for any expense whatsoever—a conclusion not
    reached by any other party and affirmatively rejected by the bankruptcy court. For the
    reasons discussed infra, we similarly reject that argument.
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    concluding that the fees are not reimbursable as necessary expenses to
    preserve the estate under 11 U.S.C. § 503(b)(1); and (3) by concluding that the
    fees could never be reimbursable as compensation under 11 U.S.C. §§ 503(b)(2)
    and 330(a). We address each argument in turn.
    A.
    First, we will address the argument that the February 2017 no-look fee
    standing order entitles debtor’s counsel to reimbursement of those fees. Prior
    to February 2017, the Western District of Louisiana’s standing order on no-
    look fees explicitly stated that any advances made by debtor’s counsel for filing
    fees or other pre-filing expenses were not separately reimbursable.           In
    February 2017, that standing order was revised and the new version no longer
    specifically stated whether advances made by debtor’s counsel were separately
    reimbursable. Notwithstanding that silence, the bankruptcy court interpreted
    its revised standing order to hold that any advances made by debtor’s counsel
    (with one explicit exception) remained accounted for under the pre-approved
    no-look fee amount and were not separately reimbursable.
    The bankruptcy court’s conclusion rested on the assertion that the
    purpose of the no-look fee option is to simplify the compensation process for
    debtor’s counsel in routine cases by removing the requirement to submit
    detailed reports of services rendered and expenses incurred. Furthermore, the
    bankruptcy court noted that the February 2017 standing order lists one, and
    only one, expense for which debtor’s attorneys seeking no-look fee
    compensation could be reimbursed above and beyond the no-look fee amount—
    the postage costs for service of the motion to modify the plan.
    McBride challenges the bankruptcy court’s interpretation of its standing
    order by arguing that silence should not bar the reimbursement of additional
    fees, and that, to the extent the standing order represents an agreement
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    between the bar and bench, it is improper to construe ambiguities against the
    party that did not draft the document.
    We hold the bankruptcy court’s interpretation of its own standing order
    to be correct. The no-look fee option is an administrative creation of the
    bankruptcy court designed to quickly identify a level of debtor’s counsel
    compensation that is presumptively reasonable and easy to administer. Given
    that purpose, it seems intuitive that silence on a given expense (particularly a
    routine expense) means that expense is supposed to be accounted for under the
    pre-approved no-look fee amount. That conclusion is bolstered by the fact that
    the standing order lists one specific example where expenses can be
    reimbursed above and beyond the no-look fee amount. And that conclusion is
    further supported by a catch-all paragraph at the end of the standing order
    stating that any request for compensation above the no-look fee amount must
    be made by a formal fee application.
    As such, we affirm the decisions of the bankruptcy court and the district
    court holding that the February 2017 standing order does not entitle debtor’s
    counsel seeking compensation under the Western District of Louisiana’s no-
    look fee system to be reimbursed for advancing the costs of filing fees, credit
    counseling fees, and credit report fees separately from (and in addition to) the
    applicable no-look fee amount.
    B.
    Next, we will address the argument that the fees are necessary costs of
    preserving the estate. 11 U.S.C. § 503(b) provides that “there shall be allowed
    administrative expenses . . . including— (1)(A) the actual, necessary costs and
    expenses of preserving the estate[.]”
    Courts generally apply a two-prong test for determining whether a debt
    is an “administrative expense” necessary for preserving the estate. First, the
    debt must arise from a post-petition transaction with the estate, rather than a
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    transaction with the debtor personally; second, the goods or services received
    in exchange for the debt must directly benefit the estate. See In re Jack/Wade
    Drilling, Inc., 
    258 F.3d 385
    , 387 (5th Cir. 2001); In re TransAmerican Nat. Gas
    Corp., 
    978 F.2d 1409
    , 1416 (5th Cir. 1992). The bankruptcy court held that the
    filing fees, credit counseling course fees, and credit report fees in this case fail
    both prongs.
    Under the first prong of the test, the bankruptcy court held that the filing
    fees, credit counseling fees, and credit report fees are all personal, pre-petition
    obligations of the debtor. For the filing fees, the bankruptcy court’s decision
    referenced 28 U.S.C. § 1930(a), which states that the filing fees must be paid
    by “[t]he parties commencing a case[.]” As support, the bankruptcy court cited
    an opinion from the Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Georgia.
    See In re Frazier, 
    569 B.R. 361
    , 367 (Bankr. S.D. Ga. 2017) (“[T]he obligation
    to pay the filing fee under 28 U.S.C. § 1930 is not an obligation of the estate.
    Rather, 28 U.S.C. § 1930, requires the party commencing a bankruptcy case
    (here, the Debtor) to pay the appropriate filing fee.”). For the credit counseling
    fees, the bankruptcy court’s decision pointed to 11 U.S.C. § 109(h), which states
    that individuals are not eligible to be a debtor until they have received credit
    counseling.       As to the credit report fees, the bankruptcy court’s decision
    observed that credit reports are not a statutory requirement to file for Chapter
    13; rather, practitioners often obtain credit reports as a matter of convenience,
    to assist in compiling the list of assets and liabilities that the debtor is
    responsible for providing under 11 U.S.C. § 521(a). Thus, the bankruptcy court
    held that the first two fees were pre-petition obligations owed by Riley in her
    personal capacity, and that the credit report fee was not a necessary expense
    at all.
    Under the second prong of the test, the bankruptcy court held that
    payment of those fees did not maintain or add to the value of the estate.
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    Instead, once again citing to Frazier, the bankruptcy court held that
    advancement of the filing fee merely fulfilled an administrative requirement
    for the bankruptcy proceeding and did not actually do anything to increase or
    maintain the value of the estate.
    We agree with the bankruptcy court and the district court that the
    advances of the filing fee, credit counseling fee, and credit report fee by debtor’s
    counsel in this case were not necessary expenses to preserve the estate under
    11 U.S.C. § 503(b)(1).
    That conclusion is abundantly clear for the credit report fee and the
    credit counseling fee. For the credit report fee, a credit report is not actually
    required by statute or regulation, so that fee is simply not a necessary expense.
    And for the credit counseling fee, 11 U.S.C. § 109(h) states that individuals are
    not even eligible to become debtors until they have completed the required
    credit counseling, so that fee is clearly personal and pre-petition under the first
    prong of the test.    That leaves the filing fee; the filing fee requires more
    analysis, but, at least under the facts of this case, is also a pre-petition,
    personal expense of the debtor. 28 U.S.C. § 1930(a) imposes the duty to pay
    the filing fee on “[t]he parties commencing a case[.]” 11 U.S.C. § 301(a) says
    that the case commences with the filing of the petition.          Federal Rule of
    Bankruptcy Procedure 1006(a) says that the petition shall be accompanied by
    the filing fee (unless waived or paid in installments, neither of which are
    applicable to this case). So the question becomes whether a payment due at
    the time the petition is filed should be considered pre- or post-petition.
    McBride’s argument would be stronger if this were a case wherein the petition
    was filed under the installment option provided by Bankruptcy Rule 1006(b),
    and the payments were then made after the petition was filed. But see 
    Frazier, 569 B.R. at 367
    (holding that even under an installment plan, the obligation to
    pay is incurred pre-petition as a personal obligation of the debtor). However,
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    those are not the facts of this case. In this case, McBride paid Riley’s filing fee
    when he filed the petition, pursuant to a pre-petition agreement to advance
    those costs. As such, the advancement of the filing fee in this case was clearly
    made to satisfy a personal, pre-petition obligation of the debtor, not to satisfy
    an obligation of the debtor’s estate.
    In addition, the second prong of the analysis—whether the expense was
    incurred as part of a transaction that directly benefitted the value of the
    estate—follows largely from the first. Because payment of these fees only
    serves to fulfill the debtor’s administrative obligations under the bankruptcy
    statutes (or, in the case of the credit report, is not necessary to fulfill those
    obligations at all), it does not maintain or add value to the assets that comprise
    the estate. As such, those fees also fail the second analytical prong required
    for categorization as an “administrative expense” under § 503(b)(1).
    We reject McBride’s invitation to base our holding on an unpublished
    judgment from the Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Virginia. See
    In re Stanley, No. 11-bk-62125-LYN, Dkt. No. 23 (Bankr. W.D. Va. Nov. 8,
    2011) (unpublished). In Stanley, that court observed that a Chapter 13 action
    commences with the filing of the petition, not the payment of the filing fee;
    therefore, that court reasoned that if the payments for the filing fee were made
    after the petition was submitted, that fee could be a post-petition expense of
    the estate. Furthermore, the Stanley court reasoned that because the case
    could be dismissed if the filing fee was not paid, the filing fee was a necessary
    expense of the estate. However, like the bankruptcy court in this case, we
    disagree with the conclusion reached by the Stanley court. 4
    4 Notably, even Stanley, the only case McBride cites as holding that the filing fee is a
    post-petition expense of the estate, also held that the credit counseling fee is a personal, pre-
    petition expense of the debtor.
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    For those reasons, we affirm the holdings of the bankruptcy court and
    district court that debtor’s counsel in this case is not entitled to additional
    reimbursement for advancing the costs of the filing fees, credit counseling fees,
    and credit report fees as administrative expenses necessary for preserving the
    estate under 11 U.S.C. § 503(b)(1).
    C.
    Last, we address the argument that reimbursement of these fees could
    be permissible as attorney compensation. 11 U.S.C. § 503(b) provides that
    “there shall be allowed administrative expenses . . . including— . . . (2)
    compensation and reimbursement awarded under section 330(a) of this title[.]”
    11 U.S.C. § 330(a)(4)(B) provides that “[i]n a chapter 12 or chapter 13 case in
    which the debtor is an individual, the court may allow reasonable
    compensation to the debtor’s attorney for representing the interests of the
    debtor . . . based on a consideration of the benefit and necessity of such services
    to the debtor[.]”
    After holding that debtor’s counsel in the Western District of Louisiana
    was not entitled to separate reimbursement of those fees when they sought
    compensation under that district’s no-look fee order, the bankruptcy court’s
    decision went a step further, and held that debtor’s counsel could never be
    reimbursed for advancing those costs, even if they requested compensation
    with a formal fee application, because such compensation was not permitted
    under 11 U.S.C. §§ 503(b) and 330. In other words, the bankruptcy court held
    that all bankruptcy courts lack the discretion to ever award debtor’s counsel
    compensation that includes reimbursement for advancing the costs of those
    three fees. We reject that conclusion as a matter of statutory interpretation
    and vacate that portion of the judgment.
    In support of its conclusion, the bankruptcy court’s decision pointed out
    that the only provision of 11 U.S.C. § 330(a) to mention payments to debtor’s
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    attorneys is § 330(a)(4)(B), which only mentions “reasonable compensation”
    and does not mention “reimbursement.” 5 The bankruptcy court’s decision
    further noted that the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1994 6 materially amended
    this section of the U.S. Code by removing debtor’s counsel from the text now
    codified in § 330(a)(1), which does list persons for whom the “reimbursement”
    of expenses is explicitly permitted. Nonetheless, relying heavily on Frazier,
    the bankruptcy court still held that it had the discretion to reimburse some
    attorney expenses as compensation. 7                    However, when it came to the
    reimbursement of filing fees (and presumably credit counseling fees and credit
    report fees), 8 the bankruptcy court held it lacked such discretion. Explaining
    its conclusion, the bankruptcy court’s decision cited Frazier:
    [T]he Court finds that the advance of a Chapter 13 debtor’s filing
    fee is not properly reimbursable under 11 U.S.C. § 330(a).
    Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1930, a debtor’s filing fee is, in essence, his
    or her cost of admission. To allow a debtor’s attorney to satisfy this
    obligation of the debtor and seek repayment as an administrative
    expense funded by the Trustee has the potential to push this cost
    onto creditors. Nothing in the Bankruptcy Code contemplates such
    treatment of the filing fee.
    5   The full text of 11 U.S.C. § 330(a)(4)(B) is as follows:
    In a chapter 12 or chapter 13 case in which the debtor is an individual,
    the court may allow reasonable compensation to the debtor’s attorney for
    representing the interests of the debtor in connection with the bankruptcy case
    based on a consideration of the benefit and necessity of such services to the
    debtor and the other factors set forth in this section.
    6   Pub. L. No. 103-394, 108 Stat. 4106.
    7The bankruptcy court here rejected a conclusion by the Bankruptcy Court for the
    Middle District of North Carolina, which concluded that the word “compensation” could never
    encompass the word “reimbursement.” See In re Marotta, 
    479 B.R. 681
    , 689–90 (Bankr.
    M.D.N.C. 2012). We similarly reject that conclusion.
    8 The bankruptcy court’s order does not explicitly mention the credit counseling and
    credit report fees in this portion of its analysis; however, the analytical treatment of those
    two claims would presumably follow the treatment of the filing fee in this regard.
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    In re Riley, 
    577 B.R. 497
    , 510 (Bankr. W.D. La. 2017) (quoting 
    Frazier, 569 B.R. at 369
    –70).
    Furthermore, the bankruptcy court’s decision asserted that having the
    debtor’s counsel advance the filing fees is not a necessity under § 330(a)(4)(B)
    because Bankruptcy Rule 1006(b) provides debtors with the ability to pay those
    fees in installments. The bankruptcy court observed that Bankruptcy Rule
    1006(b)(2) gives bankruptcy courts discretion on whether to allow those
    installment payments—which, if permitted, would effectively be paid out of the
    debtor’s estate to the detriment of other creditors. As such, the bankruptcy
    court’s decision held that permitting the debtor’s attorney to advance those fees
    and then collect them from the estate would “eviscerate” this rule and deprive
    bankruptcy courts of their discretion to determine when filing fee costs will be
    taken out of the estate to the detriment of other creditors.
    We reject the bankruptcy court’s conclusions on these points. 11 U.S.C.
    § 330(a)(4)(B) states that “the court may allow reasonable compensation to the
    debtor’s attorney for representing the interests of the debtor in connection with
    the bankruptcy case based on a consideration of the benefit and necessity of
    such services to the debtor and the other factors set forth in this section.” The
    text vests the bankruptcy courts with discretion to determine what constitutes
    “reasonable compensation,” and it requires that the courts base their decision
    on “the benefit and necessity of such services to the debtor and the other factors
    set forth in this section.”
    Given the discretionary nature of the language, we reject any argument
    that § 330(a)(4)(B) compels a bankruptcy court to find that debtor’s counsel is
    always entitled to compensation from the estate for advancing the cost of the
    filing fee (or the other two fees). It is another question whether § 330(a)(4)(B)
    permits the reimbursement of the fees in question (as McBride contends) or
    prohibits them (as the bankruptcy court here contends). For the reasons below,
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    we conclude that § 330(a)(4)(B) permits bankruptcy courts to reimburse
    debtor’s counsel for the costs of advancing such fees as reasonable
    compensation, but it does not require them to do so.
    We start by noting that the plain meaning of “compensation” is broad
    enough that it would generally be understood to include reimbursement.
    Compare Compensation, Black’s Law Dictionary (6th ed. 1990) (defining
    “compensation” as, inter alia, “indemnification” and “making whole”) with
    Reimburse, Black’s Law Dictionary (6th ed. 1990) (defining “reimburse” as,
    inter alia, “to indemnify, or make whole”). So we agree with both McBride and
    the    bankruptcy      court—and   disagree   with   the     Marotta   court—that
    § 330(a)(4)(B) can permit the reimbursement of some expenses.             But that
    leaves the question of whether it permits the reimbursement of filing fees,
    credit counseling fees, and credit report fees.
    The bankruptcy court’s primary basis for holding that filing fees cannot
    be reimbursed under § 330(a)(4)(B) is the assertion that “a debtor’s filing fee
    is, in essence, his or her cost of admission. To allow a debtor’s attorney to
    satisfy this obligation of the debtor and seek repayment as an administrative
    expense funded by the Trustee has the potential to push this cost onto
    creditors.” 
    Riley, 577 B.R. at 510
    (quoting 
    Frazier, 569 B.R. at 369
    –70). This
    reasoning appears to be derived from the analysis conducted to determine
    whether the filing fee was a necessary expense for preserving the estate under
    § 503(b)(1). The conclusion seems to be that because the filing fee is non-
    reimbursable under § 503(b)(1) due to being a personal, pre-petition obligation
    of the debtor, it must also be non-reimbursable under §§ 503(b)(2) and 330(a)
    for the same reason.
    However, that reasoning overlooks a textual distinction between
    § 503(b)(1) and § 330(a)(4)(B).    Section 503(b)(1) is limited to “expenses of
    preserving the estate[,]” and, as such, it makes sense that our caselaw imputes
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    a requirement that the expense be incurred in a post-petition transaction with
    the estate.   See, e.g., Jack/Wade 
    Drilling, 258 F.3d at 387
    .            However,
    § 330(a)(4)(B) says courts may allow compensation “for representing the
    interests of the debtor in connection with the bankruptcy case[.]” A filing fee
    (and the other two fees) are, by any ordinary understanding of the words,
    “interests of the debtor in connection with the bankruptcy case.” As such, this
    section grants bankruptcy courts the discretion to authorize compensation to
    a Chapter 13 debtor’s counsel even when the underlying activity fulfills a
    personal obligation of the debtor—such as advancing the cost of a filing fee—
    so long as that obligation is an interest of the debtor connected with the
    bankruptcy case. See also In re Walsh, 
    538 B.R. 466
    , 475 (Bankr. N.D. Ill.
    2015) (“Congress plainly intended that counsel for a chapter 13 debtor could be
    compensated from the bankruptcy estate for services that provided a benefit to
    the debtor even though those services conferred no direct benefit upon the
    bankruptcy estate.”).
    We also reject the bankruptcy court’s conclusion that permitting debtor’s
    counsel to be reimbursed for advancing the cost of filing fees under § 330(a)
    would “eviscerate” the bankruptcy courts’ discretion under Bankruptcy Rule
    1006(b). The flaw in this conclusion is that it conflates permissibility with
    compulsion.    The statute does not compel bankruptcy courts to find that
    advancing the filing fee is a reasonable expense which, if borne by the estate,
    would not unduly harm other creditors.            That call remains within the
    discretion of each bankruptcy court, which is permitted—but not required—to
    authorize it for any given case.
    Therefore, we hold that 11 U.S.C. §§ 503(b) and 330 provide bankruptcy
    courts with the discretion to compensate debtor’s counsel for advancing the
    costs of filing fees, credit counseling fees, and credit report fees if they choose
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    to do so, and we vacate the holdings of the bankruptcy court and district court
    to the contrary. 9
    *   *    *
    The holdings of the bankruptcy court and the district court that debtor’s
    counsel in this case are not entitled to reimbursement for advancing the costs
    of the filing fees, credit counseling fees, and credit report fees under the
    Western District of Louisiana’s February 2017 no-look fee standing order or as
    expenses necessary to preserve the estate under 11 U.S.C. § 503(a) are
    AFFIRMED. However, the holdings of the bankruptcy court and the district
    court that bankruptcy courts lack the discretion to ever award debtor’s counsel
    the reimbursement of such expenses as reasonable compensation under 11
    U.S.C. §§ 503(b) and 330 are VACATED.
    9 Although not determinative in answering this question, we note that the bankruptcy
    court’s contrary conclusion, if affirmed by this court, would invalidate the local rules of
    several other bankruptcy courts within this circuit, which do exercise their discretion to
    authorize the separate reimbursement of some or all of the fees in question. See, e.g.,
    Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Texas, Bankruptcy Rule 2016(b) Disclosure
    and Application for Approval of Fixed Fee Agreement (Standard Case) at 2 (effective Dec. 1,
    2017), https://www.txs.uscourts.gov/sites/txs/files/2017StandardFixedFee_standard%20with
    %20changes%20on%20November%2029%20-%20FINAL.pdf (standard form authorizing
    separate reimbursement of the filing fee); Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of
    Texas, Standing Order Concerning All Chapter 13 Cases, General Order 2017-01 at 18
    (effective Jul. 1, 2017), https://www.txnb.uscourts.gov/sites/txnb/files/general-ordes/General
    Order2017.01StandingOrderConcerningAllChapter13Cases.pdf              (authorizing    separate
    reimbursement of filing fees and credit report fees); Bankruptcy Courts for the Northern and
    Southern Districts of Mississippi, Amended Standing Order Regarding Use of “No-Look” Fee
    in Awarding Reasonable Compensation and Reimbursable Expenses to Attorneys of Debtors
    in Chapter 13 Cases, Standing Order 2018-06 at 1–2 (effective Jan. 1, 2019) http://www
    .mssb.uscourts.gov/media/51320/2018-06_ch-13_nolookfee_eff_01-01-2019.pdf (authorizing
    separate reimbursement of filing fees, credit counseling fees, and credit report fees).
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