United States v. Brent Vreeland , 684 F.3d 653 ( 2012 )


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    Appeals from the United States District Court
    for the Western District of Michigan at Grand Rapids.
    Nos.: 04-00232-006; 09-00130-001—Gordon J. Quist, District Judge.
    Argued: October 6, 2011
    Decided and Filed: June 29, 2012
    Before: MARTIN and GRIFFIN, Circuit Judges; and ANDERSON, District Judge.*
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    COUNSEL
    ARGUED: Scott Graham, SCOTT GRAHAM PLLC, Portage, Michigan, for Appellant.
    Daniel Y. Mekaru, ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY, Grand Rapids,
    Michigan, for Appellee. ON BRIEF: Scott Graham, SCOTT GRAHAM PLLC,
    Portage, Michigan, for Appellant. Daniel Y. Mekaru, ASSISTANT UNITED STATES
    ATTORNEY, Grand Rapids, Michigan, for Appellee.
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    OPINION
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    GRIFFIN, Circuit Judge.          In these consolidated appeals, defendant Brent
    Vreeland appeals his convictions on two counts of making false oral and written
    statements to a federal probation officer, in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (a)(2) and
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    The Honorable S. Thomas Anderson, United States District Judge for the Western District of
    Tennessee, sitting by designation.
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    (a)(3), and the revocation of his supervised release. This case presents the novel
    questions in this circuit of whether a defendant’s false statements to a probation officer
    during the course of a monthly supervisory meeting are protected by the Fifth
    Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, and whether such statements fall within
    the “judicial function exception” to prosecution set forth in 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (b). We
    answer “no” to both questions and accordingly affirm.
    I.
    In January 2005, Vreeland was convicted in federal district court of conspiracy
    to defraud the United States, stemming from a fraudulent check cashing scheme that
    spanned from 1999 to 2003. In August 2005, the district court sentenced him to thirteen
    months of imprisonment and three years of supervised release, and ordered him to pay
    over $22,000 in restitution.
    On February 9, 2008, while still on supervised release, Vreeland committed a
    home invasion and larceny in Kalamazoo, Michigan. His involvement was confirmed
    following an investigation and a June 2008 interview with a co-suspect, Rodney Russell,
    who implicated Vreeland in the crime. Russell, who initially lied to sheriff’s authorities
    about his participation in the home invasion, was charged eventually with the crime and,
    in March 2009, pled guilty to second-degree home invasion in Kalamazoo County
    Circuit Court pursuant to a plea agreement requiring him to testify against Vreeland. At
    Vreeland’s bench trial in the present case, Russell testified as to Vreeland’s role, their
    disposal of some of the stolen items in a nearby pond, discussions about getting rid of
    the getaway vehicle, and their agreement at the time that they would deny knowing each
    other if questioned by authorities.
    United States Probation Officer Nicholas Bobo, who was assigned to supervise
    Vreeland, testified at the trial about his investigation of the matter. On February
    28, 2008, Officer Bobo spoke with a detective from the Kalamazoo County Sheriff’s
    Department and learned that Vreeland’s car was linked to a home invasion and that
    Vreeland was a suspect. Officer Bobo was aware that the detective had scheduled a
    meeting with Vreeland to discuss the incident.         On March 10, 2008, Vreeland,
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    accompanied by his attorney, appeared for an interview with the detective, but Vreeland
    refused to answer any questions.
    The next day, Vreeland reported to Officer Bobo. Vreeland told Officer Bobo
    about the interview and informed him that he and Russell were suspects in the home
    invasion. Vreeland claimed, however, that he did not know Russell. Officer Bobo asked
    Vreeland what had happened to his grandmother’s vehicle, a 1992 Oldsmobile
    previously noted on monthly supervision reports, and Vreeland indicated that he sold it
    to a junk yard.1 Officer Bobo directed him to bring in documentation regarding the car,
    but Vreeland failed to do so. As a result, Vreeland was arrested for an alleged
    supervised release violation, but not before Officer Bobo asked him to sign a waiver of
    hearing on a modification of the terms of his release. Vreeland told Officer Bobo that
    he needed to talk with his attorney and later responded that he would not sign the waiver.
    On March 31, 2008, the day after his arrest, Officer Bobo received a telephone
    call from Vreeland’s attorney, who indicated that he represented Vreeland but stated that
    he was not familiar with the federal legal system. On April 1, the attorney informed
    Officer Bobo that he no longer represented Vreeland. Officer Bobo understood this to
    mean that the attorney no longer represented Vreeland in any capacity whatsoever. New
    counsel was then appointed to represent Vreeland in federal court for the supervised
    release violation. At the conclusion of the hearing on April 10, 2008, the district court
    modified, but did not revoke, Vreeland’s supervised release and placed him in a halfway
    house for five months.
    Officer Bobo testified that between April and September of 2008, he had no
    further conversations with Vreeland about the home invasion. However, Officer Bobo
    was in continual contact with the investigating detectives, who submitted the case to the
    Kalamazoo County Prosecutor’s Office for review.                        On August 22, 2008, the
    prosecutor’s office advised Officer Bobo that it would not prosecute Vreeland. Officer
    1
    A subsequent investigation by Officer Bobo and an FBI agent determined that Vreeland lied,
    as the car was found abandoned in a parking lot and was later sold in a sheriff’s auction to a junk yard in
    December 2008.
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    Bobo thereafter began his own investigation and interviewed several witnesses,
    including Russell. He advised the United States Attorney’s Office of his actions and
    stated that he would be submitting reports for another potential supervised release
    violation. Officer Bobo met with Vreeland on September 2, 2008, to review his
    conditions of supervised release and instructed Vreeland to report to him on a monthly
    basis at his office.
    On October 3, 2008, Vreeland appeared at the probation office for his regular
    monthly meeting with Officer Bobo. By that time, Officer Bobo had concluded, based
    on his investigation, that Vreeland had violated his supervised release by committing the
    home invasion. After discussing other matters, Officer Bobo brought up the February
    9, 2008, incident. He did not tell Vreeland in advance that he intended to question him
    about the alleged crime. Officer Bobo told Vreeland that he was a suspect in the home
    invasion and proceeded to ask him specific questions about the events of that night.
    Vreeland denied any knowledge of the incident and claimed that he did not know
    Russell. Officer Bobo then showed Vreeland two photographs of Russell taped to a
    blank piece of paper, but Vreeland again denied knowing him. Officer Bobo advised
    Vreeland that he had reason to believe that Vreeland knew Russell, that it was a violation
    of federal law to make a false statement to a federal officer, and that any false statements
    would be turned over for further investigation. Still, Vreeland disavowed any familiarity
    with Russell, and Officer Bobo asked him if he would be willing to make a written
    statement to that effect. Vreeland agreed and wrote on the piece of paper with the
    attached photos of Russell that “[t]o my knowledge I do not know this individual. It may
    be possible that I have seen or met him, but if that is the case, I do not recall the
    encounter.” Officer Bobo then asked Vreeland to make a second written statement that
    he had never attempted to contact Russell, and Vreeland agreed, writing, “I have never
    attempted to contact this individual [Russell] to my knowledge.” Both statements were
    initialed, signed, and dated by Vreeland, and Officer Bobo signed and dated the
    documents as a witness.
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    Officer Bobo testified that he did not advise Vreeland of his Miranda rights
    because Vreeland was not in custody or under arrest; the office door was open, and
    Vreeland was free to leave. According to Officer Bobo, Vreeland never invoked his
    right to remain silent or requested to speak to a lawyer, never indicated that he was
    represented by a lawyer, never acted confused, and did not refuse to answer any of the
    questions. Officer Bobo stated that he did not threaten Vreeland with arrest or
    revocation of his supervised release if he failed to answer his questions, and he further
    testified that if Vreeland had requested an attorney, he would have honored the request.
    At the conclusion of the meeting, Officer Bobo told Vreeland that he (Bobo) would be
    in contact with him, and Vreeland then left of his own accord.
    Convinced that Vreeland was lying, Officer Bobo submitted a report to the
    U.S. Attorney. As a result, on April 23, 2009, Vreeland was indicted on two counts of
    making false oral and written statements to a federal probation officer, in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (a)(2) and (a)(3). In May 2009, an amended petition seeking revocation
    of Vreeland’s supervised release was filed, alleging five violations of the general
    condition that “defendant shall not commit another federal, state, or local crime.”2
    In October 2009, the district court conducted a combined bench trial and
    supervised release hearing. Numerous witnesses – including Russell, Officer Bobo, and
    county investigators – testified, but Vreeland did not take the witness stand.
    On November 12, 2009, the district court issued a written decision in which it found
    Vreeland guilty on both counts of the indictment and all five supervised-release
    violations. The court sentenced Vreeland to concurrent prison terms of twenty-four
    months for the false-statement convictions, and to a consecutive term of twenty-four
    months on the amended revocation petition. Vreeland timely appeals both judgments.
    2
    In July 2009, Vreeland was arrested and charged in Kalamazoo County Circuit Court with
    second-degree home invasion, larceny in a building, illegal entry, and failure to stop at the scene of a
    personal injury accident. The state case was pending at the time of Vreeland’s federal trial.
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    II.
    Prior to his bench trial, Vreeland moved to suppress his oral and written
    statements made to Officer Bobo on the ground that admission of the statements violated
    his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. In its written decision, the district
    court addressed Vreeland’s argument and denied the motion, finding Officer Bobo’s
    recitation of the facts and Russell’s testimony to be credible. Specifically, the court
    determined that:
    [Vreeland] was never in custody so as to implicate his Miranda rights.
    As Mr. Bobo testified, he had received a telephone call from [Vreeland’s
    attorney], who informed Mr. Bobo that he . . . did not represent
    Defendant. Mr. Bobo further testified, the documents show, and the
    Court finds that Defendant was a frequent visitor to a probation officer,
    and on the occasion in question spoke with Mr. Bobo in an office where
    the door was wide open, and Defendant could have walked out of the
    door if he had wished to do so. Furthermore, Defendant had been
    informed of his right not to incriminate himself when he pled guilty to
    [conspiracy to commit bank fraud in 2005]. Defendant could have
    invoked his Fifth Amendment and Sixth Amendment rights if he had
    desired to do so, but he did not. As a matter of fact, [his] statements to
    Mr. Bobo were voluntarily made pursuant to a scheme [he] had already
    cooked up and was urging Mr. Russell to buy into – they did not know
    each other, they did not break into the apartment, they did not bump into
    anyone with the car, they did not throw the stolen items in the pond, and
    they did not conspire to get rid of [Vreeland’s] grandmother’s car. Far
    from being forced to answer any question, [Vreeland] was volunteering
    lies to keep state and federal officers from charging him with more
    crimes.
    (Footnote omitted.)
    In reviewing the denial of a motion to suppress evidence, we review the district
    court’s factual findings for clear error and its legal conclusions de novo. United States
    v. Blair, 
    524 F.3d 740
    , 747 (6th Cir. 2008). The evidence is to be considered in the light
    most favorable to the government. 
    Id. at 748
    .
    Citing Minnesota v. Murphy, 
    465 U.S. 420
     (1984), Vreeland argues that where,
    as purportedly here, there is an imminent threat to impose sanctions or penalties such
    that it forces self-incrimination, the Fifth Amendment is self-executing and does not
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    require a probationer to invoke it in order to have his admissions suppressed in an
    ensuing criminal prosecution. He further contends that his prior invocation of the right
    to counsel, demonstrated by the appearance of his attorney during the interview with the
    county detective in March 2008, remained in effect during his October 3, 2008, meeting
    with Officer Bobo. We disagree.
    The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides in relevant part
    that no person “shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.”
    U.S. CONST. amend. V. “[T]his prohibition not only permits a person to refuse to testify
    against himself at a criminal trial in which he is a defendant, but also ‘privileges him not
    to answer official questions put to him in any other proceeding . . . where the answers
    might incriminate him in future criminal proceedings.’”            Murphy, 
    465 U.S. at 426
     (quoting Lefkowitz v. Turley, 
    414 U.S. 70
    , 77 (1973)). “A defendant does not lose
    this protection by reason of his conviction of a crime; notwithstanding that a defendant
    is imprisoned or on probation at the time he makes incriminating statements, if those
    statements are compelled they are inadmissible in a subsequent trial for a crime other
    than that for which he has been convicted.” 
    Id.
    In Murphy, the Supreme Court addressed the issue whether an incriminating
    “statement made by a probationer to his probation officer without prior warnings is
    admissible in a subsequent criminal proceeding.” Id. at 425. Pursuant to a probation
    condition that required respondent Murphy to “be truthful with [his] probation officer
    in all matters,” he confessed to a prior rape and murder when questioned about it during
    the course of a meeting with his probation officer. Id. at 422-24 (internal quotation
    marks omitted). The probation officer relayed the information to authorities, and
    Murphy was indicted for first-degree murder. Id. at 424-25. Murphy sought to suppress
    his confession on the ground that it was obtained in violation of the Fifth Amendment.
    Id. at 425. The Supreme Court reversed the state court’s decision suppressing the
    confession and barring its admission at Murphy’s trial. Id.
    The Court first observed that “the general obligation to appear [before a
    probation officer] and answer questions truthfully d[oes] not in itself convert [a
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    probationer’s] otherwise voluntary statements into compelled ones.” Id. at 427. Except
    in “certain well-defined situations” such as police custodial interrogations, “a witness
    [or probationer] confronted with questions that the government should reasonably expect
    to elicit incriminating evidence ordinarily must assert the privilege rather than answer
    if he desires not to incriminate himself,” and “if he chooses to answer, his choice is
    considered to be voluntary since he was free to claim the privilege and would suffer no
    penalty as the result of his decision to do so.” Id. at 429. The Supreme Court held that
    “it is clear that Murphy was not ‘in custody’ for purposes of receiving Miranda
    protection since there was no formal arrest or restraint on freedom of movement of the
    degree associated with a formal arrest.” Id. at 430 (citation and internal quotation marks
    omitted).
    Nor was Murphy deterred from claiming the privilege against self-incrimination
    by a reasonably perceived threat of revocation of his probation. Id. at 439. The Court
    explained:
    A state may require a probationer to appear and discuss matters that
    affect his probationary status; such a requirement, without more, does not
    give rise to a self-executing privilege. The result may be different if the
    questions put to the probationer, however relevant to his probationary
    status, call for answers that would incriminate him in a pending or later
    criminal prosecution . . . . [I]f the state, either expressly or by
    implication, asserts that invocation of the privilege would lead to
    revocation of probation, it would have created the classic penalty
    situation, the failure to assert the privilege would be excused, and the
    probationer’s answers would be deemed compelled and inadmissible in
    a criminal prosecution.
    Id. at 435.
    The Supreme Court determined that Murphy’s circumstances were “insufficient
    to excuse [his] failure to exercise the privilege in a timely manner.” Id. at 437. First, on
    its face, his probation condition proscribed only false statements and contained no
    suggestion that his probation was conditioned on his waiver of his Fifth Amendment
    privilege with respect to further criminal prosecution. Id. Second, he “was not expressly
    informed during the crucial meeting with his probation officer that an assertion of the
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    privilege would result in the imposition of a penalty.” Id. at 438. Third, “[t]here [was]
    no direct evidence that Murphy confessed because he feared that his probation would be
    revoked if he remained silent.” Id. at 437. Accordingly, “there [was] no reasonable
    basis for concluding that [the state] attempted to attach an impermissible penalty to the
    exercise of the privilege against self-incrimination.” Id. at 437.
    Drawing on Murphy, we have held that “the Fifth Amendment privilege against
    self-incrimination is not self-executing in the context of a meeting with a probation
    officer.” United States v. Miller, 
    910 F.2d 1321
    , 1326 (6th Cir. 1990) (holding that the
    defendant’s voluntary revelation to his probation officer during a presentence meeting
    that he regularly purchased cocaine to support his habit, resulting in the probation
    officer’s recalculation of the defendant’s base offense level and sentencing range for his
    drug offense, was not a compelled incrimination); see also United States v. Humphrey,
    
    34 F.3d 551
    , 555 (7th Cir. 1994) (“[U]nless a state overtly threatens to revoke probation
    in retaliation for the legitimate exercise of the self-incrimination privilege, there is no
    reasonable basis for a probationer to believe that his Fifth Amendment rights are in
    jeopardy.”) (citing Murphy, 
    465 U.S. at 438
    ).
    Vreeland’s contention that he was ensnared in the “classic penalty situation”
    described in Murphy – by being given a wrongful choice of either incriminating himself
    or violating a term of his supervised release by not telling Officer Bobo the truth about
    his involvement in the home invasion – is without merit for several reasons.
    Although further incarceration was possible under Vreeland’s terms of
    supervised release if he failed to “answer truthfully all inquiries by the probation
    officer,” we find no clear error in the district court’s factual findings giving credence to
    Officer Bobo’s testimony that he did not threaten arrest or a supervised release violation
    during the October 3, 2008, meeting. Vreeland was not “in custody.” He met with
    Officer Bobo in the probation office, just as he had done on numerous occasions, and he
    was free to leave after the meeting. There was no evidence that he felt compelled to
    answer or that he could not invoke his Miranda rights. Indeed, as the district court
    found, Vreeland was seasoned in the invocation of his right to counsel in his past legal
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    proceedings, yet he chose not to invoke his Fifth Amendment right during his monthly
    probation meeting. Officer Bobo neither expressly nor impliedly informed Vreeland that
    invocation of the privilege would lead to revocation of probation; rather, Vreeland was
    advised that he could be subject to federal charges if he lied. And lie he did.
    “[N]either the text nor the spirit of the Fifth Amendment confers a privilege to
    lie. ‘[P]roper invocation of the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-
    incrimination allows a witness to remain silent, but not to swear falsely.’” Brogan v.
    United States, 
    522 U.S. 398
    , 404 (1998) (alteration in original) (quoting United States
    v. Apfelbaum, 
    445 U.S. 115
    , 117 (1980)); see also United States v. Williams, No. 07-
    6358, 
    2009 WL 579332
    , at *3 (6th Cir. Mar. 9, 2009) (unpublished) (“[T]he defendant’s
    conviction [for misprision of a felony] did not stem from his silence. Instead, the
    defendant was convicted because when he chose to speak he lied to the authorities.
    While the Fifth Amendment may protect the defendant’s right to remain silent, it does
    not give him the right to lie once he chooses to speak.”) (citing Brogan, 
    522 U.S. at
    404-
    05).
    In a case on all fours with the present circumstances – United States v. Ballard,
    391 F. App’x 650 (9th Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 
    131 S. Ct. 1583
     (2011) – the probationer
    made false statements to his probation officer during the term of his supervised release,
    for which he was indicted and convicted under 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    . He asserted that
    evidence of the falsehoods should have been suppressed because his Fifth Amendment
    right against self-incrimination was violated. The Ninth Circuit disagreed, stating:
    No doubt, even those on supervised release retain their Fifth Amendment
    rights. But that avails Ballard nothing because the Fifth Amendment
    does not protect lying, and does not protect persons whose statements
    may merely result in revocation of probation proceedings. The required
    statements here were, clearly, of the latter variety. The ensuing
    prosecution . . . was a result of his falsehoods only.
    
    Id. at 652
     (citation and footnotes omitted) (citing Murphy, 
    465 U.S. at
    435 n.7, and
    Brogan, 
    522 U.S. at 404-05
    ). Cf. United States v. Melancon, 
    662 F.3d 708
    , 712 (5th Cir.
    2011), cert. denied 
    132 S. Ct. 2119
     (2012) (holding that even if the defendant prison
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    inmate was in custody for Miranda purposes when he was interviewed by federal
    officers, his statements were themselves a criminal act and thus would have been
    admissible at his trial for making and using a false document that was presented to a
    federal agent and obstruction of justice: “[The defendant] was not free to lie to the
    questioners and be absolved from the consequences of those lies because of the absence
    of warnings. The exclusionary rule does not act as a bar to the prosecution of a crime
    where the statements themselves are the crime.”); United States v. Gonzalez-Mares,
    
    752 F.2d 1485
    , 1490 (9th Cir. 1985) (“False answers to proper questions asked after
    conviction would ordinarily be admissible in a prosecution for giving false statements.”)
    (emphasis removed); United States v. Kirk, 
    528 F.2d 1057
    , 1062 (5th Cir. 1976) (“The
    Fifth Amendment’s prohibition against self-incrimination relates to crimes alleged to
    have been committed prior to the time when the testimony is sought. A person,
    uninformed of his rights, who testifies and thereby incriminates himself of a crime that
    has been committed, may assert a fifth amendment privilege if prosecuted for that crime,
    but it has been held that he is not free to falsely testify and commit perjury . . . . Thus,
    as a general rule it can be said that no fifth amendment problem is presented when a
    statement is admitted into evidence which is not confessional in nature, but in and of
    itself constitutes the crime charged.”).
    In the present case, Vreeland cannot invoke the Fifth Amendment to protect the
    falsehoods made to Officer Bobo that resulted in his conviction under 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001.3
    We therefore conclude that the district court did not err in denying Vreeland’s motion
    to suppress the evidence.
    3
    United States v. Saechao, 
    418 F.3d 1073
     (9th Cir. 2005), upon which Vreeland relies, is
    inapposite. There, the Ninth Circuit held that a probationer who truthfully admitted to the unlawful
    possession of a firearm pursuant to a probation condition requiring him to “promptly and truthfully answer
    all reasonable inquiries” from the probation officer or face revocation of his probation, and who was
    thereafter charged with a firearm offense, was “compelled” to give incriminating evidence in violation of
    the Fifth Amendment. 
    Id. at 1081
     (internal quotation marks omitted). Here, Vreeland made false
    statements, and the resultant prosecution under § 1001(a) was the product of these falsehoods.
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    III.
    The district court found Vreeland guilty of making a false statement and a false
    writing to his probation officer in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (a)(2) and (a)(3), which
    states:
    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter
    within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of
    the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully– . . . (2)
    makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or
    representation; or (3) makes or uses any false writing or document
    knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
    statement or entry; shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more
    than 5 years . . . or both.
    
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (a)(2) and (a)(3).
    This statute contains an exception to criminal prosecution, and “does not apply
    to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements,
    representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or
    magistrate in that proceeding.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (b) (emphasis added). This “judicial
    function exception” has three requirements: “[The defendant] must show that (1) he was
    a party to a judicial proceeding, (2) his statements were submitted to a judge or
    magistrate, and (3) his statements were made ‘in that proceeding.’” United States v.
    McNeil, 
    362 F.3d 570
    , 572 (9th Cir. 2004).
    Vreeland renews his argument made to the district court that his false statements
    were submitted in the course of the district court’s adjudicative function and thus were
    not subject to the reach of § 1001(a). He contends that he made the statements to Officer
    Bobo in a matter directly relating to his supervised release and, when this occurred at the
    meeting on October 3, 2008, the nature of the investigation was such that it was
    inevitable that the statements would be submitted to the court. Vreeland argues that at
    this point in time, regardless of whether he admitted or denied his involvement in the
    home invasion, Officer Bobo was conducting an investigation predetermined to lead to
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    a violation proceeding and, therefore, the statements were made by a party to a judicial
    proceeding.
    The district court concluded otherwise, finding as a matter of law “that [the]
    statements made to [Officer] Bobo by Defendant on October 3, 2008, were not
    statements made or documents submitted to a magistrate or judge”; that “a meeting
    between a probation officer and a defendant under supervision is not a ‘judicial
    proceeding’ within the meaning of the statute”; and that Officer Bobo “exercised his own
    discretion in seeking to revoke Defendant’s parole, and [therefore] 
    18 U.S.C. § 1001
    (b)
    does not apply to the facts of this case because [Officer] Bobo was not acting as an agent
    of the Court.” We agree with the district court.
    “‘A matter requiring statutory interpretation is a question of law requiring de
    novo review, and the starting point for interpretation is the language of the statute
    itself.’” United States v. Brown, 
    639 F.3d 735
    , 737 (6th Cir. 2011) (quoting United
    States v. Batti, 
    631 F.3d 371
    , 375 (6th Cir. 2011)). “When a plain reading leads to
    ambiguous or unreasonable results, a court may look to legislative history to interpret
    a statute.” Roth v. Guzman, 
    650 F.3d 603
    , 614 (6th Cir. 2011) (citation and internal
    quotation marks omitted).
    We have not had occasion to address the application of the judicial function
    exception to a probationer’s false statements made to a probation officer, and the two
    sister circuits that have confronted the issue are in conflict. Both of these cases arose in
    the context of statements made during the presentence investigation process.
    In United States v. Horvath, 
    492 F.3d 1075
     (9th Cir. 2007), a panel majority of
    the Ninth Circuit held that § 1001(b) immunized a defendant’s false statement made to
    a probation officer during the defendant’s presentence interview. Defendant Horvath
    falsely told the probation officer that he had served in the Marine Corps, a representation
    incorporated into the presentence report (“PSR”) and relied upon by the district court in
    imposing a lenient sentence of probation. Id. at 1076. More than four years later, the
    government determined that Horvath was never a United States Marine and charged him
    with a violation of § 1001(a). He entered a conditional guilty plea and filed a motion to
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    dismiss the indictment, arguing that § 1001(b) prevented his prosecution as a matter of
    law. Id. at 1077. The district court denied Horvath’s motion, but on appeal, the Ninth
    Circuit held that Horvath’s statement fell within the exception in § 1001(b) and reversed
    the district court’s ruling. Id. at 1082.
    The court reasoned that “[b]ecause [Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure]
    32 required the probation officer to submit Defendant’s false statement of personal
    history to the judge, and because the probation officer exercised no discretion in doing
    so, he was acting as a conduit between Defendant and the judge.”4 Id. at 1080. The
    court underscored the “limited reach” of its holding, emphasizing that “[a] defendant’s
    statement to a probation officer is protected under § 1001(b) only if the law requires the
    probation officer to include the statement in the PSR and submit the PSR to the court.
    In these circumstances, the statement is submitted (albeit indirectly) by the defendant to
    a judge in a judicial proceeding.” Id. at 1081.
    In her dissent in Horvath, Judge Rymer opined that “nothing in Rule 32 makes
    the probation officer a courier pigeon.” Id. at 1082 (Rymer, J., dissenting). “In the
    capacity relevant here, preparation of a presentence report (PSR), a probation officer is
    an investigator and advisor who must gather, sort, and distill information that Federal
    Rule of Criminal Procedure 32 requires . . . . For sure, the [PSR] is submitted to a judge.
    Yet if the defendant submits to an interview, and makes a statement, he makes the
    statement to a probation officer; if he lies, he lies to the probation officer, not ‘to the
    judge.’” Id. She further found it
    hard to believe that Congress intended the exception for submissions “to
    a judge” to encourage those convicted of federal crimes to fabricate tales
    to a probation officer for the purpose of influencing a more favorable
    sentence. While Congress obviously did intend to allow some false
    statements, representations, writings, and documents to be made to a
    judge in the course of adversarial litigation to avoid chilling advocacy on
    the margin between pushing the envelope and being misleading and
    4
    Rule 32 provides in pertinent part that “[t]he probation officer must conduct a presentence
    investigation and submit a report to the court before it imposes sentence,” and that “[t]he presentence
    report must also contain . . . the defendant’s history and characteristics.” Fed. R. Crim. P. 32(c)(1) and
    (d)(2)(A).
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    lying, it did not immunize falsehoods altogether even in the judge’s arena
    as it drew a line at knowingly making a false material statement under
    oath. 
    18 U.S.C. § 1623
    . Additionally, the adversary system, counsels’
    ethical obligations, and other means available to judicial officers kick in
    to further truth-seeking in the courtroom. Similar balances do not apply
    in the probation officer’s arena. Statements to probation officers are not
    made under penalty of perjury and the process is not adversarial. Absent
    § 1001, there are scant incentives for truth-speaking.
    Id. at 1083-84.5
    In United States v. Manning, 
    526 F.3d 611
     (10th Cir. 2008), a panel majority of
    the Tenth Circuit addressed the same issue, but rejected the Horvath majority’s logic
    and, instead, found Judge Rymer’s dissent to be the “better approach.” 
    Id. at 619
    . The
    defendant was prosecuted for making a false statement under § 1001(a) when he failed
    to divulge financial assets to his probation officer, who was calculating the defendant’s
    net worth for a PSR pertaining to the defendant’s underlying conviction of
    misappropriation by a fiduciary. Id. at 612-13. The Tenth Circuit adopted Judge
    Rymer’s point of view and held that the judicial function exception did not apply
    because the defendant’s false statement was not “submitted to the judge” within the
    meaning of § 1001(b). Id. at 619-20. Acknowledging that it was “a close and difficult
    case” because of the varied nature of a probation officer’s duties, the court delved into
    the legislative history of § 1001(b) and concluded that it “[could not] hold that
    Congressional intent encompassed allowing a defendant to conceal resources when such
    evidence is critical to the final judicial decision, at which time the advocates can have
    their say protected by § 1001(b).” Id. at 621. The underpinning of the court’s holding
    was its belief that the “[presentence] process involves the probation officer’s exercise
    of his discretion, and not a mere transmission of information.” Id. at 619.
    Unlike Horvath and Manning, the present case does not involve false statements
    made to a probation officer during the presentence phase of the case, and we do not
    purport to decide in that context which of these decisions states the better point of view.
    5
    The full complement of the Ninth Circuit subsequently denied the government’s petition for
    rehearing en banc, but not without the dissent of seven judges. See United States v. Horvath, 
    522 F.3d 904
    (9th Cir. 2008).
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    However, we find the Tenth Circuit’s characterization of the probation officer’s function
    as more than merely a “conduit” to the trial court to be particularly apropos here, where
    a probation officer is overseeing a defendant’s compliance with the terms of supervised
    release. In this setting, there is no question that a probation officer “has a separate role
    to play as an investigator and truth-finder.” United States v. Horvath, 
    522 F.3d 904
    , 913
    (9th Cir. 2008) (Kozinski, C.J., dissenting) (order denying petition for rehearing en
    banc). The probation officer is broadly charged with, inter alia, “keep[ing] informed .
    . . as to the conduct and condition of a probationer or a person on supervised release . . .
    and report[ing] his conduct and condition to the sentencing court,” “us[ing] all suitable
    methods, not inconsistent with the conditions specified by the court, to aid a
    probationer,” “be[ing] responsible for the supervision of any probationer or a person on
    supervised release who is known to be within the judicial district,” “keep[ing] informed
    concerning the . . . compliance with any condition of probation . . . and report[ing]
    thereon to the court,” and “perform[ing] any other duty that the court may designate.”
    
    18 U.S.C. § 3603
    (2)-(4), (7), (10). In addition, when a probationer violates the
    conditions of his supervised release, a probation officer has the discretion to seek
    revocation of the probationer’s parole. 
    28 C.F.R. § 2.48
    .
    In this capacity, probation officers manage defendants under their supervision
    largely without the involvement of the judge, who does not normally review the
    probation officer’s monthly reports, financial statements, and other paperwork unless
    there is a specific problem, a violation, or a termination of supervision. “Equating lying
    to a probation officer with lying to a judge overlooks the differences in the roles of each
    person . . . . [A judge] does not conduct his own investigation; he does not interview
    witnesses outside of court; he does not independently verify information given to him.
    Instead, he must rely on the probation officer to investigate and verify information.”
    Horvath, 
    522 F.3d at 912
     (Bea, J., dissenting). Applying this rationale to the present
    case, we conclude that Vreeland’s false statements to Officer Bobo were not “submitted
    . . . to a judge” as called for under § 1001(b).
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    More importantly, we do not tacitly assume, as did the courts in Horvath and
    Manning, that a meeting between a probation officer and a defendant under supervision
    is a “judicial proceeding” within the meaning of § 1001(b).6 We hold that it is not.
    The legislative history of the judicial function exception indicates that it was
    enacted by Congress in 1996 and added to § 1001 for the purpose of
    codify[ing] the judicial function exception which has long been
    recognized by many Federal courts as necessary to safeguard from the
    threat of prosecution statements made in the course of adversarial
    litigation. Allowing the criminal penalties of section 1001 to apply to
    statements made in the course of adversarial litigation would chill
    vigorous advocacy, thereby undermining the adversarial process. The
    exception is consistent with the [Supreme] Court’s reasoning in [United
    States v. Bramblett, 
    348 U.S. 503
     (1955), and Morgan v. United States,
    
    309 F.2d 234
     (D.C. Cir. 1962)], and subsequent case law, which
    consistently distinguished the adjudicative from the administrative
    functions of the court, exempting from section 1001 only those
    communications made to the court when it is acting in its adjudicative or
    judicial capacity, and leaving subject to section 1001 those
    representations made to the court when it is functioning in its
    administrative capacity.
    ***
    Consequently, consistent with Bramblett, only those representations
    made to a court when it is acting in its administrative or “housekeeping”
    capacity are within the scope of section 1001. Such representations
    would include any filings not related to a proceeding before the court,
    such as submissions related to bar membership, and would also include
    the submission of information to another entity within the judicial
    branch, such as the probation service.
    6
    See Manning, 
    526 F.3d at 615
     (“[T]here is no debate that Mr. Manning was a party to a judicial
    proceeding and that he made a statement during that proceeding. The question is whether [his] failure to
    mention to [the probation officer] the existence of the 401(k) account, which in turn [the probation officer]
    omitted from the PSR submitted to the court, was a false statement ‘submitted . . . to a judge’ [under
    § 1001(b)].”); Horvath, 
    492 F.3d at 1077
     (“The parties – and we – agree that the first and third
    requirements are met: Defendant was a party to a judicial proceeding and made his statement in that
    proceeding. The only issue in dispute is the second requirement: whether Defendant’s false statement to
    the probation officer, which was submitted to the judge in the PSR, qualifies as having been submitted by
    [a] party . . . to a judge.”); cf. McNeil, 
    362 F.3d at 572-73
     (holding that the district court’s inquiry into the
    defendant’s financial status to determine if he qualified for court-appointed counsel was a “judicial
    proceeding” under § 1001(b) because “every point between the indictment and the disposition [is]
    considered part of the ‘judicial proceeding’”).
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    H. R. Rep. No. 104-680, 104th Cong., 2nd Sess. 1996, as reprinted, 1996 U.S.C.C.A.N.
    3935, 3937-38, 3943 (footnotes omitted) (emphasis added).
    Very clearly, then, a meeting between a probation officer and a defendant under
    supervision is not a “judicial proceeding” protected by § 1001(b) because it serves an
    administrative, not an adjudicative, function.
    Two pre-enactment cases that are representative of the common law codified by
    Congress in § 1001(b) support our conclusion. In United States v. Inserra, 
    34 F.3d 83
    (2d Cir. 1994), the defendant falsified his monthly probation supervision reports by
    indicating that he neither owned nor drove any vehicles, when in fact he both owned and
    drove a 1978 Porsche worth $25,000. 
    Id. at 86
    . The court rejected the defendant’s claim
    that his false statements fell within the judicial function exception, stating:
    [The defendant] argues that the false statements in this case were not
    made in an administrative context because the court was acting in a
    judicial capacity in ascertaining whether [he] should have the right to
    continued liberty. However, there is a clear distinction between
    statements made to a sentencing court and those made to the Probation
    Office by a probationer. Unlike the role of the court in rendering an
    appropriate sentence, the duties of a probation officer in supervising a
    probationer clearly are administrative in nature, see 
    18 U.S.C. § 3603
    ,
    and have no bearing on the court’s adjudicative function, cf. United
    States v. Mayer, 
    775 F.2d 1387
    , 1391 (9th Cir. 1985) (per curiam)
    (noting that statement made to probation officer during presentence
    interview does not fall within adjudicative function exception because
    interview itself was not adjudicative). Accordingly, the false statements
    made by [the defendant] to the Probation Office do not fall within the
    adjudicative function exception and are subject to prosecution under the
    provisions of section 1001.
    Id. at 88.
    In United States v. Grimes, 
    54 F.3d 489
     (8th Cir. 1995), the defendant on
    supervised release falsely indicated on his monthly supervision reports to the Probation
    Office that he had not had contact with law enforcement officials and had not committed
    any crimes, when he in fact had been twice arrested and convicted of shoplifting. 
    Id.
     at
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    490. Finding the reasoning of the Second Circuit in Inserra to be “convincing,” the
    Eighth Circuit concluded that:
    [Section] 1001 may be applied to false statements in a monthly
    supervision report because such statements do not relate to the court’s
    adjudicative function. Statements in supervision reports are used to track
    compliance with release conditions and to ensure regular contact with the
    probation office. The function of the report is predominantly supervisory
    and administrative, rather than adjudicative. Although the probation
    office may consider the answers given on the report in determining
    whether to seek modification or revocation of supervised release, the
    ultimate decision to modify or revoke supervised release is made by the
    court, not the probation office.
    
    Id. at 492
    .
    Section 1001(b) now embodies the common-law dichotomy between
    administrative and adjudicative functions drawn in these and other pre-1996 cases.
    Taking into consideration the legislative history of § 1001 and relevant precedents, we
    hold that the false statements made by Vreeland to Officer Bobo during the supervisory
    meeting do not enjoy the protection of § 1001(b) because the meeting was administrative
    in nature and was not a “judicial proceeding” as contemplated by Congress. To conclude
    otherwise would frustrate the probation process and contravene the purpose of § 1001.
    For these reasons, the district court did not err in refusing to dismiss the
    indictment and associated supervised release violations. Vreeland cannot seek shelter
    in the judicial function exception.
    IV.
    The judgments of the district court are affirmed.