United States v. Timmy Fields ( 2022 )


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    Pursuant to Sixth Circuit I.O.P. 32.1(b)
    File Name: 22a0253p.06
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT
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    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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    Plaintiff-Appellee,      │
    >        No. 20-5521
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    v.                                                  │
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    TIMMY L. FIELDS,                                           │
    Defendant-Appellant.        │
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    Appeal from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky at London.
    No. 6:19-cr-00029-1—Robert E. Wier, District Judge.
    Argued: June 23, 2021
    Decided and Filed: November 23, 2022
    Before: ROGERS, WHITE, and MURPHY, Circuit Judges.
    _________________
    COUNSEL
    ARGUED: Michael J. Stengel, MICHAEL J. STENGEL, PC, Memphis, Tennessee, for
    Appellant. Andrew C. Noll, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, Washington,
    D.C., for Appellee. ON BRIEF: Michael J. Stengel, MICHAEL J. STENGEL, PC, Memphis,
    Tennessee, for Appellant. Andrew C. Noll, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
    Washington, D.C., Charles P. Wisdom, Jr., Jenna E. Reed, R. Nicholas Rabold, UNITED
    STATES ATTORNEY’S OFFICE, Lexington, Kentucky, for Appellee.
    WHITE, J., delivered the opinion of the court in which MURPHY, J., joined, and
    ROGERS, J., joined in part. MURPHY, J. (pp. 34–45), delivered a separate concurring opinion
    in which WHITE, J., joined except as to Part II.A. ROGERS, J. (pp 46–48), delivered a separate
    opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part.
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    AMENDED OPINION
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    HELENE N. WHITE, Circuit Judge. Defendant Timmy Fields appeals his twenty-five-
    year mandatory-minimum sentence enhancement imposed for his having committed two prior
    “serious drug felon[ies].” Fields challenges the procedure used to impose his enhancement and
    argues as well that neither prior conviction was for a “serious drug felony.” Most of Field’s
    challenges lack merit, but we agree that one of the predicate prior convictions was not for a
    “serious drug felony.” Accordingly, we AFFIRM in part, REVERSE in part, and REMAND for
    resentencing.
    I. BACKGROUND
    In January 2020, a jury convicted Defendant Timmy Fields of possessing 500 grams or
    more of methamphetamine with intent to distribute, in violation of 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (a)(1). The
    district court imposed a statutory sentence enhancement under 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (b)(1)(A)(viii),
    finding that Fields had convictions for two previous “serious drug felon[ies]” in Kentucky—one
    for possessing a methamphetamine “precursor” with intent to manufacture, the other for
    trafficking in methamphetamine. Fields raises several challenges to the procedure used to
    impose the enhancement and the characterization of his prior offenses as “serious drug felonies.”
    A. Relevant Statutory and Legal Background
    Section 841(b)(1)(A) provides for a twenty-five-year-minimum sentence enhancement if
    a defendant commits certain violations of 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (a) “after 2 or more prior convictions
    for a serious drug felony . . . have become final[.]” Prior to the First Step Act, this enhancement
    provided for a mandatory life sentence after two prior final convictions for a “felony drug
    offense,” which included certain drug-related state or federal offenses punishable by more than a
    year of imprisonment. 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (44); First Step Act of 2018, 
    Pub. L. No. 115-391, § 401
    (a)(2)(A)(ii), 
    132 Stat. 5194
    , 5220. The First Step Act lowered this mandatory minimum to
    twenty-five years and replaced “felony drug offense” with a new term, “serious drug felony.”
    First Step Act § 401(a)(1), (a)(2)(A)(ii). Relevant here, a “serious drug felony” is (1) a “serious
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    drug offense” under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A), for which the defendant (2) served over a year in
    prison and (3) was released within fifteen years of the commencement of the instant offense.
    
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (57).1
    A “serious drug offense,” as relevant here, means a state-law offense “involving
    manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with intent to manufacture or distribute, a controlled
    substance (as defined in [
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    ]), for which a maximum term of imprisonment of ten
    years or more is prescribed by law.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii). So, in this case, prosecutors
    had to show two prior final convictions for “serious drug offenses” and prove that for each,
    Fields served over a year in prison and was released within 15 years of the commencement of the
    instant offense.
    Another statutory provision, 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    , governs the procedure for imposing
    conviction-based statutory sentence enhancements under § 841. Section 851(a) requires the
    government to file an “information” (often referred to as the “§ 851 notice”) informing the
    defendant of its intent to seek an enhancement based on prior convictions, “stating in writing the
    previous convictions to be relied upon.” 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (a)(1). Section 851(b) provides that the
    court—after conviction but before pronouncing a sentence—must ask the defendant if he affirms
    or denies that he was previously convicted as alleged in the § 851 notice. Id. § 851(b). The
    court must also “inform [the defendant] that any challenge to a prior conviction which is not
    made before sentence is imposed may not thereafter be raised to attack the sentence.” Id.
    Section 851(c) provides that if the defendant “denies any allegation” in the § 851 notice
    or claims that any conviction is invalid, the defendant “shall file a written response[.]” Id.
    § 851(c)(1). Then, “[t]he court shall hold a hearing to determine any issues raised by the
    response which would except the person from increased punishment.” Id. This “hearing shall be
    before the court without a jury[.]” Id. “[E]ither party may introduce evidence,” and aside from
    an exception for claims that a prior conviction was obtained in violation of the Constitution, the
    1
    A “serious drug felony” can also be a “violent felony” as described in 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B), but that
    definition is not relevant to this case. See 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (57) (defining “serious drug felony” as “an offense
    described in section 924(e)(2) of Title 18 for which” the defendant served over a year in prison and was released
    within fifteen years of present offense); 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2) (providing definitions for “serious drug offense” and
    “violent felony”).
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    government “shall have the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt on any issue of fact. At
    the request of either party, the court shall enter findings of fact and conclusions of law.” 
    Id.
    § 851(c)(1)-(2).
    The Sixth Amendment requires that juries determine any facts (except the fact of a
    conviction) that increase a statutory maximum or mandatory-minimum punishment. Alleyne v.
    United States, 
    570 U.S. 99
    , 103, 111 n.1 (2013); Apprendi v. New Jersey, 
    530 U.S. 466
    , 490
    (2000).     Fields argues Alleyne requires that the First Step Act’s incarceration facts—“the
    offender served a term of imprisonment of more than 12 months [for the prior offense]” and “the
    offender’s release from any term of imprisonment was within 15 years of the commencement of
    the instant offense,” § 802(57)—must go to a jury under Alleyne but that § 851 requires a judge
    to decide them, creating an unsolvable problem.
    B. Factual Background
    In April 2019, Kentucky police pulled Fields over and discovered 985 grams of
    methamphetamine in his vehicle. A few months later, a federal grand jury indicted Fields with
    one count of possession of 500 grams or more of methamphetamine with intent to distribute, in
    violation of 21 U.S.C § 841(a)(1). The indictment also alleged that Fields had two prior “final
    conviction[s] for . . . serious drug felon[ies]” for which he served over a year in prison and was
    released within fifteen years of the instant offense. R. 1 PID 1-2. The first was for “Trafficking
    in a Controlled Substance in the First Degree,” in violation of Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1412 (the
    Trafficking Offense).       Id. PID 1.      The second was for “Unlawful Possession of a
    Methamphetamine Precursor and Persistent Felony Offender,” in violation of Ky. Rev. Stat.
    §§ 218A.1437 & 532.080 (the Meth-Precursor Offense). Id. PID 1-2.
    Before trial, the government filed a § 851 notice, stating its intent to seek a sentence
    enhancement based on these two prior convictions.          The government also filed a pretrial
    motion—which Fields did not oppose at the time—to bifurcate the trial into two phases. In the
    first phase, the government would seek to prove the substantive § 841 drug offense. If Fields
    were found guilty, the trial would move to a second phase, where the government would seek to
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    prove that Fields had previously been convicted of two serious drug felonies. The court granted
    the unopposed motion.
    1. The Trial
    The final pretrial conference took place on January 14, 2020, the day before trial. It
    largely focused on what prior-conviction facts, if any, should go to the jury if the second phase
    was reached. The district court and government took the position that the Sixth Amendment
    required the incarceration-related facts (length of incarceration and recency of release) to be
    decided by the jury. But counsel for Fields argued that “none of it is a jury question,” raising the
    same argument noted above: that under Supreme Court precedent, the additional incarceration-
    related facts had to be found by a jury, but that § 851 required the court to find them. R. 111 PID
    794. Thus, counsel argued, if Fields were convicted, he should “[j]ust be subject to the penalty
    without any enhancement for prior convictions.” Id. PID 797.
    Trial began the next day. The government put on all its guilt-phase proofs on day one.
    At the end of the first day, the parties conferred with the court to discuss the § 851 issue further.
    The court said that if a second phase was necessary, it would likely ask the jury to find whether
    Fields was convicted of each prior offense and determine, for each, whether he served over a
    year in prison and was released within fifteen years of his current offense. Counsel for Fields
    repeated his objection, to which the court responded that the Sixth Amendment, not § 851,
    determines what questions go to the jury.2 The court added that its approach may leave Fields
    2
    “Mr. Hoskins: Your Honor, I think that as the law stands now, that the only statutory way to
    address these points is for the Court to make the determination on the prior convictions. And the
    arguments that I made earlier, I think there is a problem with a federal contradiction between the
    First Step Act and 851 as written. . . .
    The Court: You gave me a thoughtful argument, and I appreciate the argument. But what defines
    what goes to a jury is the Sixth Amendment, not a statute. And if the enhancing facts are within
    the ambit of the Sixth Amendment, that tells me it has to go to the jury. I don’t need a statute to
    tell me that. The constitution is the primary authority, not the statute. . . . I understand your
    argument about 851, but I don’t think that defines what goes to the jury. I think the Court has to
    define the elements of the crime. The elements of the crime go to the jury under the Sixth
    Amendment. . . . [T]o the extent there is a Sixth Amendment issue, it is easily cured by letting the
    jury decide. That’s what I intend to do.”
    R. 107 PID 525-28.
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    with a statutory argument but would likely prevent him from raising a subsequent Sixth
    Amendment challenge on appeal:
    The Court: . . . Well, you know, I understand strategically your argument. I do
    want to make it clear that I’m extending to the defendant kind of the option of
    having what I think is the most robust Sixth Amendment protection he can have,
    and that is for the jury to decide all of it. Down the road, if he’s convicted and the
    jury finds what it finds, if he’s got an argument to make, it is going to be that the
    statutory authority, or clash, as you pointed out, somehow deprives the Court of
    the power to honor the Sixth Amendment in the way that I’m proposing. It is not
    going to be there was a violation of the Sixth Amendment by the Court making a
    finding that the jury could make, because I’m giving him the chance to have it all
    decided by the jury. Just to make that clear.
    Mr. Hoskins: We recognize that, Your Honor.
    R. 107 PID 557-58.
    On the second day of trial, the jury deliberated and returned a guilty verdict on the
    substantive § 841 offense. During deliberations, the court again recognized that Fields “ha[s] an
    overall objection” to the second-phase jury instructions. R. 108 PID 564. Fields’s counsel noted
    that other than the general objection regarding the appropriate factfinder, “Fields is not going to
    contest that those two Laurel Circuit Court convictions are him.” Id. PID 564. Fields, his
    lawyer, and government counsel then submitted a stipulation that Fields was convicted of the
    Meth-Precursor Offense on December 27, 2006 and was convicted of the Trafficking Offense on
    January 24, 2013. The district court then engaged in the mandated § 851(b) colloquy with
    Fields, asking him whether he affirmed or denied that he was convicted of these two previous
    offenses. Fields affirmed that he was.
    A brief second phase then began, with the government presenting proof that for both
    prior convictions, Fields served more than a year in prison and was released within fifteen years
    from the date of his current offense. Before the jury deliberated, at the close of evidence,
    Fields’s lawyer made an oral motion for judgment of acquittal, arguing that neither prior offense
    met the legal definition of “serious drug offense.” The court denied the motion but noted that
    Fields had preserved the issue and could develop his arguments prior to sentencing. In a special
    verdict form, the jury found both factual predicates were satisfied for each prior conviction.
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    2. Sentencing
    After trial had concluded and before sentencing, Fields filed an “Objection to § 851
    Notice” and an objection to his pre-sentence report, both focusing exclusively on whether his
    prior offenses were “serious drug offenses,” and neither raising any factual disputes regarding
    the length or recency of his incarceration for the two prior convictions. Regarding the Meth-
    Precursor Offense, he argued that Shular v. United States, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (2020), required the
    court to ask whether the offense “necessarily entail[ed]” any of the conduct described in
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) and contended that it did not. He also argued that the Trafficking Offense was
    overly broad because it could encompass trafficking in certain substances that were excluded
    from federal controlled-substance schedules, including inhalers with levmetamfetamine.
    During argument, Fields’s counsel emphasized that it was possible to violate the meth-
    precursor statute before ever beginning the manufacturing process and that the offense did not
    necessarily entail the predicate conduct.        The government responded that the statute’s
    requirement that the defendant possess a methamphetamine ingredient with intent to manufacture
    means that it necessarily entails manufacturing. The district court expressed some skepticism,
    see R. 109 PID 653 (“[C]an you call something that involves intent to use a chemical as a
    precursor to manufacturing part of manufacturing? Is that logical?”), and posed a hypothetical to
    test the theory:
    The Court: So if somebody is in a drugstore and shoplifts a pack of Sudafed with
    the intent to take it to a cook, the second that shoplifting occurs, you would
    consider that manufacturing?
    [AUSA] Mr. Rabold: Not necessarily. I mean, that’s possession of a precursor,
    but it requires that there is the intent to use it as a precursor of methamphetamine.
    And that’s just - -
    The Court: That’s what I said.
    Mr. Rabold: Yes.
    The Court: So in that context, that person is guilty of an offense involving
    manufacturing?
    Mr. Rabold: I would say so, just based on the plain reading of KRS 218A.1437.
    That if they possessed that precursor with the intent of using it as a precursor to
    manufacturing methamphetamine, then that person would then be guilty of that
    offense.
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    8 R. 109
     PID 653-54. The court ultimately sided with the government, reasoning that our decision
    in United States v. Eason, 
    919 F.3d 385
     (6th Cir. 2019), which found a similar Tennessee
    conviction to be a serious drug offense, “decides the issue.” R. 109 PID 665. The court noted
    that Shular may arguably “shrink[]” Eason’s analysis, as the latter relied on a “[p]retty broad
    reading” of § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) asking only if the prior crime “related to and connected with
    manufacturing,” but concluded that “Eason is a published Sixth Circuit case that I feel bound
    by.” Id. PID 665-66.
    Applying the statutory enhancement, the district court sentenced Fields to 300 months in
    prison (the bottom of the mandatory range), noting that “[w]ithout that mandatory minimum,” it
    would have imposed a lower sentence. Id. PID 710. The district court also issued two written
    orders explaining its reasoning on the § 851 issue and “serious drug offense” issues, respectively.
    Fields timely appealed.
    II. STANDARD OF REVIEW
    Fields raises several legal challenges to his sentencing enhancement, some for the first
    time on appeal. We review the ones raised below de novo. See United States v. Mateen, 
    764 F.3d 627
    , 630 (6th Cir. 2014) (en banc) (per curiam); United States v. Green, 
    654 F.3d 637
    , 649
    (6th Cir. 2011); Eason, 919 F.3d at 388. But we apply plain-error review to arguments first
    raised on appeal, United States v. Cavazos, 
    950 F.3d 329
    , 334 (6th Cir. 2020), requiring (1) an
    error; that (2) was “plain” (i.e., obvious or clear); (3) affected the defendant’s substantial rights;
    and (4) affected the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the judicial proceedings. 
    Id.
     We
    first address Fields’s challenges to the district court’s § 851 procedure. We then address whether
    his prior convictions were “serious drug offenses.”
    III. CHALLENGES TO § 851 PROCEDURE
    Fields raises four challenges to the procedure used to impose his enhancement. He first
    argues that § 851(b) facially violates the Fifth Amendment by compelling defendants to testify
    regarding previous convictions; second, that § 851(c) facially violates the Sixth Amendment by
    requiring judges to determine facts—the length and recency of incarceration—that the
    Constitution requires to be decided by a jury; third, that the court violated § 851 by sending those
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    facts to the jury here; and finally, that the court violated the Sixth Amendment by not requiring
    the jury to decide whether his prior convictions were “final.” We take these arguments in order.
    A. The Fifth Amendment Challenge
    Fields first argues that § 851(b) violates a defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against
    self-incrimination by requiring that courts ask defendants to “affirm or deny” prior convictions
    and warn defendants that they may forfeit challenges they do not raise prior to imposition of
    sentence. Fields Br. at 17-18. He did not raise this argument below, so plain-error review
    applies.
    The Fifth Amendment provides that no person “shall be compelled in any criminal case
    to be a witness against himself[.]” U.S. CONST. amend. V. But this privilege “is not a self-
    executing mechanism; it can be affirmatively waived, or lost by not asserting it in a timely
    fashion.” Maness v. Meyers, 
    419 U.S. 449
    , 466 (1975). Generally, answers “are not compelled
    within the meaning of the Fifth Amendment unless the witness is required to answer over his
    valid claim of the privilege.” Minnesota v. Murphy, 
    465 U.S. 420
    , 427 (1984). The Fifth
    Amendment “speaks of compulsion. It does not preclude a witness from testifying voluntarily in
    matters which may incriminate him. If, therefore, he desires the protection of the privilege, he
    must claim it or he will not be considered to have been ‘compelled’ within the meaning of the
    Amendment.” 
    Id.
     (quoting United States v. Monia, 
    317 U.S. 424
    , 427 (1943)).
    Fields never asserted the privilege. Despite being informed of the right not to testify,
    Fields did not invoke that right when asked if he affirmed or denied his prior convictions.
    Indeed, prior to being asked that question, he voluntarily stipulated that he had been convicted of
    those offenses. Fields thus did not suffer a Fifth Amendment violation, and his challenge fails.
    See Garner v. United States, 
    424 U.S. 648
    , 653 (1976) (“[A] witness who reveal[s] information
    instead of claiming the privilege los[es] the benefit of the privilege.”); see also United States v.
    Jones, 447 F. App’x 319, 326 (3d Cir. 2011) (rejecting “Jones’s facial challenge to 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (b) under the Fifth Amendment” because “as applied,” there was no constitutional
    violation).
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    B. The Sixth Amendment Challenge
    Fields next argues that § 851(c) is facially unconstitutional under the Sixth Amendment
    because it requires the judge to decide facts—the length and recency of incarceration—that
    should be decided by the jury.
    In general, the Sixth Amendment requires the jury to decide any fact that increases the
    statutory maximum or mandatory-minimum sentence available for a crime. Alleyne, 570 U.S. at
    103; Apprendi, 
    530 U.S. at 490
    .        But there is an exception to this rule for the “fact of
    conviction.” This exception stems from Almendarez-Torres v. United States, 
    523 U.S. 224
    , 226-
    27 (1998). The Court has described Almendarez-Torres as an “exceptional departure from” and
    “narrow exception to the general rule.” Apprendi, 
    530 U.S. at 487, 490
    ; see also Alleyne, 570
    U.S. at 111 n.1 (“In Almendarez-Torres[], we recognized a narrow exception to this general rule
    for the fact of a prior conviction.”); United States v. Haymond, 
    139 S. Ct. 2369
    , 2377 n.3 (2019)
    (plurality) (stating that Almendarez-Torres provides a “narrow exception[] to Apprendi’s general
    rule”).
    Here, the district court held—and the parties seem to assume—that the Sixth Amendment
    would require the jury to decide whether, for each prior conviction, Fields was incarcerated for
    over a year and released within fifteen years of the instant offense. The basis for the district
    court’s view is intuitive. Alleyne and Apprendi described the Almendarez-Torres exception as
    “narrow” and applying only to the fact of conviction, and the First Step Act’s incarceration facts
    extend beyond the fact of conviction. Further, in justifying the Almendarez-Torres exception,
    the Court has explained that prior convictions are “constitutional[ly] distinct[]” because “unlike
    virtually any other consideration used to enlarge the possible penalty for an offense, . . . a prior
    conviction must itself have been established through procedures satisfying the fair notice,
    reasonable doubt, and jury trial guarantees.” Jones v. United States, 
    526 U.S. 227
    , 249 (1999).
    That rationale does not apply to post-conviction facts regarding time served or recency of
    release. These are new facts never previously found in a proceeding with built-in constitutional
    protections.
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    But the Court has also sometimes used a broader justification for the Almendarez-Torres
    exception that cuts the other way. The Court has justified the exception on the basis that,
    traditionally, facts involving recidivism have been within the province of judicial fact-finding
    and that these facts are usually unconnected with the substantive offense at issue.               See
    Almendarez-Torres, 
    523 U.S. at 243
     (noting that “the sentencing factor at issue here—
    recidivism—is a traditional, if not the most traditional, basis for a sentencing court’s increasing
    an offender’s sentence”); Jones, 
    526 U.S. at 235, 248-49
     (making similar point); Apprendi, 
    530 U.S. at 488
     (pointing out that Almendarez-Torres emphasized “the fact that recidivism ‘does not
    relate to the commission of the offense’” (quoting Almendarez-Torres, 
    523 U.S. at 244
    )).
    If Almendarez-Torres creates an exception more broadly for “recidivism,” there is a case for
    saying that the incarceration-related facts are a good fit for the exception. They arguably relate
    only to recidivism, and they are completely unconnected to the current offense.
    Two district court decisions directly addressing the Sixth Amendment implications of the
    new “serious drug felony” incarceration facts have reached opposite conclusions. The difference
    in their reasoning tracks the separate rationales described above. The district court in our case
    held that the jury must decide these facts, emphasizing the Court’s clear statements that the
    Almendarez-Torres exception is “narrow” and limited solely to the “fact of conviction.” See
    United States v. Fields, 
    435 F. Supp. 3d 761
    , 764 (E.D. Ky. 2020) (stating that these facts
    amount to “empirical issues, which rise or fall based on events occurring only after the
    conviction,” and thus “by definition are beyond the ‘fact’ of conviction (the narrow Almendarez-
    Torres harbor)”); see also United States v. Beal, No. 18-00070, 
    2021 WL 4524159
    , at *3 n.6 (D.
    Haw. Oct. 4, 2021) (stating “that the more ‘conservative approach’ would be to put the question
    of the serious drug felony determination to the jury before its dismissal”). But a North Carolina
    district court recently held the opposite, relying more heavily on the “recidivism” justification.
    See United States v. Lee, 
    2021 WL 640028
    , at *3-7 (E.D.N.C. Feb. 18, 2021) (“The exception
    for the fact of a prior conviction is based in the recognition that recidivism does not relate to the
    commission of the offense.” (internal quotation marks omitted)); see also United States v. Fitch,
    No. 19-CR-30, 
    2022 WL 1165000
    , at *2 (N.D. Ind. Apr. 19, 2022) (concluding that, although the
    First Step Act added new facts to consider, those facts are still facts of a prior conviction).
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    Though both Fields and Lee give the issue thoughtful consideration, the district court’s
    view in our case appears more persuasive.                 Although one can find strands of reasoning
    supporting a broader reading of Almendarez-Torres, the Court’s repeated descriptions of
    Almendarez-Torres as “narrow” and limited to the “fact of conviction” cut against this approach.
    But ultimately, we need not (and do not) definitively decide this constitutional issue because
    even assuming that the incarceration-related facts must be decided by a jury, there was no
    constitutional violation here.
    The basis of Fields’s constitutional argument is that § 851(c) requires the judge to decide
    factual questions (length and recency of incarceration) that must go to the jury under Alleyne.
    But those facts were actually submitted to the jury here. Fields therefore suffered no personal
    constitutional violation. Instead, his argument is based on a counterfactual hypothetical: he
    argues that under the correct reading of § 851, the judge should have decided these facts himself,
    and that had he done so, he would have violated the Sixth Amendment. That, however, did not
    happen here. Although Fields has a potential statutory argument—that the court did not follow
    § 851—the district court’s application of § 851 did not produce a Sixth Amendment violation.
    Fields’s facial challenge also fails. Facial challenges only succeed if the challenger can
    show “that no set of circumstances exists under which the [challenged statutory provision] would
    be valid.” United States v. Salerno, 
    481 U.S. 739
    , 745 (1987). Fields cannot do so. Section 851
    applies to all conviction-related enhancements imposed on those convicted of an offense under
    
    21 U.S.C. §§ 841-65
    , see 
    id.
     § 851(a)(1), and several of those enhancements do not turn on the
    type of incarceration-related facts that, according to Fields, implicate the Sixth Amendment.
    See, e.g., id. § 841(b)(1)(C) (enhancement for “felony drug offense,” which 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (44)
    defines without reference to incarceration-related facts); see also 
    id.
     § 842(c)(2)(B); id.
    § 843(d)(1). Fields has not shown that § 851 would be unconstitutional as applied to these types
    of enhancements.3 In short, Fields’s facial challenge lacks merit. So does any personal “as-
    3
    Even in the “serious drug felony” context, § 851 would not be unconstitutional in all its applications.
    Section 851(c)(1) provides that a court “shall hold a hearing to determine any issues raised by” a defendant. 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (c)(1) (emphasis added). If a defendant concedes the length and recency of incarceration but raises the
    purely legal challenge that his prior convictions were not for “serious drug offenses,” there would be no Sixth
    Amendment issue, even under Fields’s view.
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    applied” challenge (to the extent he brings one), because the jury decided the facts Fields said it
    needed to decide.
    C. The § 851 Statutory Challenge
    The closer question is whether the district court failed to follow § 851.             “The
    requirements delineated in § 851 are mandatory, and a district court cannot enhance a
    defendant’s sentence based on a prior conviction unless” they are satisfied. United States v.
    King, 
    127 F.3d 483
    , 487 (6th Cir. 1997); see also Carachuri-Rosendo v. Holder, 
    560 U.S. 563
    ,
    569 n.6 (2010) (“Although § 851’s procedural safeguards are not constitutionally compelled,
    they are nevertheless a mandatory feature of the Controlled Substances Act.” (citation omitted));
    United States v. LaBonte, 
    520 U.S. 751
    , 754 n.1 (1997) (“[I]mposition of an enhanced penalty is
    not automatic. . . . If the Government does not file [a] notice [under § 851(a)(1)] . . . the lower
    sentencing range will be applied even though the defendant may otherwise be eligible for the
    increased penalty.”).
    The question is whether § 851 required the district court to decide the incarceration-
    related facts here—i.e., whether it precluded the district court from sending those factual
    questions to the jury in the post-guilt phase of the bifurcated trial proceeding. Before addressing
    the parties’ arguments on that question, we briefly review § 851’s statutory scheme.
    1.
    As relevant here, § 851(a)(1) provides that “[n]o person who stands convicted of an
    offense under this part [
    21 U.S.C. §§ 841-65
    ] shall be sentenced to increased punishment by
    reason of one or more prior convictions, unless before trial, or before entry of a plea of guilty,”
    the government “files an information with the court” and serves a copy on the defendant “stating
    in writing the previous convictions to be relied upon.” 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (a)(1). Section 851(b)
    provides that when such an information is filed, “the court shall after conviction but before
    pronouncement of sentence” ask the defendant “whether he affirms or denies that he has been
    previously convicted as alleged in the information, and shall inform him that any challenge to a
    prior conviction which is not made before sentence is imposed may not thereafter be raised to
    attack the sentence.” 
    Id.
     § 851(b).
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    Section 851(c) provides that if the defendant “denies any allegation of the information of
    prior conviction, or claims that any conviction alleged is invalid, he shall file a written response
    to the information” and serve the government with a copy. Id. § 851(c)(1). Then, “[t]he court
    shall hold a hearing to determine any issues raised by the response which would except the
    person from increased punishment.” Id. “The hearing shall be before the court without a jury
    and either party may introduce evidence.” Id. Aside from one exception (when the defendant
    asserts that the prior conviction was obtained in violation of the Constitution), the government
    “shall have the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt on any issue of fact.” Id. § 851(c)(1)-
    (2). The “failure of the [government] to include in the information . . . any facts in addition to
    the convictions to be relied upon shall not constitute grounds for invalidating the notice[.]” Id.
    § 851(c)(1). “At the request of either party, the court shall enter findings of fact and conclusions
    of law.” Id.
    Section 851(d)(1) provides that the court “shall proceed to impose sentence” upon the
    defendant if the defendant fails to respond to the § 851 notice “or if the court determines, after
    hearing, that the person is subject to increased punishment by reason of prior convictions[.]” Id.
    § 851(d)(1). Section 851(d)(2) provides that the court must—if requested by the government—
    stay imposition of the sentence to allow for appeal if the court “determines that the person has
    not been convicted as alleged in the information, that a conviction alleged in the information is
    invalid, or that the person is otherwise not subject to an increased sentence as a matter of law[.]”
    Id. § 851(d)(2). Finally, § 851(e) prevents defendants from “challeng[ing] the validity of any
    prior conviction alleged under this section which occurred more than five years before the date
    of the information alleging such prior conviction.” Id. § 851(e).
    2.
    The parties first dispute whether § 851 applies to the incarceration-related facts at all.
    The government argues that § 851’s text is limited to questions involving the validity of previous
    convictions and “does not encompass the resolution of any term-of-imprisonment-related
    questions at all.” Gov’t Br. at 18. In support of this argument, it cites portions of § 851(a)(1),
    No. 20-5521                                 United States v. Fields                                      Page 15
    (b), and (d)(2) that refer to challenges implicating the validity of convictions, as well as § 851’s
    title (“[p]roceedings to establish prior convictions.”).4 We are not persuaded.
    The government picks out portions of § 851 that mention the validity of convictions but
    omits parts of the statute using broader language, in particular § 851(c)(1), the main sub-section
    Fields relies on. Section 851(c)(1) provides that “[i]f the person denies any allegation of the
    information of prior conviction,” he must file a written response.                       
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (c)(1)
    (emphasis added). “Any allegation” is broad. The subsection adds that the court “shall hold a
    hearing to determine any issues raised by the response which would except the person from
    increased punishment.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis added). Had Congress sought to limit § 851 to challenges
    involving the validity or existence of convictions, it could have said so here. “[A]ny issues” is
    far broader. See, e.g., id. (stating that the government will have the burden of proof on “any
    issue of fact” in the § 851(c) hearing (emphasis added)). Section 851(c)(1) also expressly
    contemplates that the hearing may encompass facts beyond the mere fact of conviction. It states
    that the government’s “failure” to “include . . . any facts in addition to the convictions to be
    relied upon” will not invalidate the § 851 notice. Id. (emphasis added). If the § 851 hearing is
    focused only on the existence of a conviction, why reference “facts in addition to the
    conviction”?      See, e.g., Lee, 
    2021 WL 640028
     at *5 (citing these portions of § 851 and
    concluding that its scope “encompasses a variety of subsidiary findings necessary to define or
    qualify [a] prior conviction”).
    Section 851(c)(1) refers to a “hearing to determine any issues raised by the [defendant’s]
    response which would except the [defendant] from increased punishment.” If a defendant has
    not served over a year in prison or was released more than fifteen years before the present
    4
    See Gov’t Br. at 18-19 (“Section 851’s procedure does not encompass the resolution of any term-of-
    imprisonment-related questions at all. Section 851 sets forth a process for the district court to determine the ‘facts
    regarding prior convictions’—including whether the defendant ‘has been previously convicted as alleged in the
    information,’ whether an alleged conviction ‘is invalid,’ or whether a conviction would not subject a defendant ‘to
    an increased sentence as a matter of law.’ 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (a)(1), (b), (d)(2). As the district court suggested,
    questions about the characteristics of the sentence a defendant served as a result of a prior conviction are not
    encompassed by Section 851.”); 
    id. at 19
     (adding that “[a]ny doubt about the scope of the statutory section is
    resolved by [its] heading, which refers to ‘[p]roceedings to establish prior convictions’—and not to ‘establish’ the
    period of imprisonment the defendant served or other consequences that resulted from the conviction”).
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    offense, those facts “except [him] from increased punishment.” If raised, they fit within § 851’s
    scope.
    3.
    The parties next dispute whether § 851 prevents a court from doing what the court did
    here: i.e., sending the incarceration-related facts to the jury via a bifurcated proceeding at trial.
    While we do not agree with the government’s precise framing, we ultimately agree that the
    answer to this close question is “no.”
    The government argues that nothing in § 851 “mandates that the [district] court
    independently make factual findings, nor prevents the district court from adopting a jury’s
    determinations.” Gov’t Br. at 20. We have trouble with both assertions. To start, § 851(c)(1)
    does require the court, not a jury, to make certain findings. It requires the court to hold a hearing
    to determine “any issues” raised by a defendant’s written § 851 response, contemplates that this
    hearing may involve “facts in addition to the convictions to be relied upon,” and provides that
    the “hearing shall be before the court without a jury and either party may introduce evidence.”
    
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (c)(1). It also states that the government “shall have the burden of proof beyond
    a reasonable doubt on any issues of fact” in the hearing, and that when requested, “the court shall
    enter findings of fact and conclusions of law.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis added). These sentences (in part)
    describe an evidentiary hearing. Clearly, if the jury is not present to evaluate evidence in that
    hearing, only the court can decide the “issues of fact” raised in it. It follows that when there are
    issues left to be resolved in a § 851(c) hearing (i.e., unresolved factual issues raised by the
    defendant’s written § 851 notice), the court is the entity that decides those issues.
    There are two problems with the government’s argument that nothing in § 851 bars the
    court from adopting the jury’s factual findings, as if they were optional recommendations. First,
    the court did not purport to “adopt” the jury’s findings here. See R. 72 PID 293 (“These post-
    conviction factual criteria . . . are for the jury alone to evaluate.”).       Second, if the Sixth
    Amendment requires a jury to decide the incarceration-related facts at issue here—as the
    government argued below and seems to assume on appeal—there could well be a constitutional
    problem with concluding that a court could treat a jury’s findings as “recommendations” it could
    No. 20-5521                                  United States v. Fields                                        Page 17
    choose to adopt or reject. Under that view, the judge, not jury, would make the final factual
    determination. That would “reduce[] the jury’s role ‘to the relative importance of low-level
    gatekeeping.’” United States v. Booker, 
    543 U.S. 220
    , 230 (2005) (quoting Jones, 
    526 U.S. at 244
    ).
    Yet a slightly different framing makes the argument more plausible. Nothing in § 851
    expressly forbids a court from sending factual questions to a jury during a bifurcated trial merely
    because they may come up later in a § 851(c) hearing. The statute is silent on what a court can
    and cannot do during the trial phase of a criminal proceeding. Fields notes that § 851(c)(1) refers
    to a hearing “before the court without a jury,” and argues that this language expressly precludes
    the jury’s involvement, adding that in Booker, the Court read 
    18 U.S.C. § 3553
    (a)(1)’s use of the
    phrase “the court” to “mean ‘the judge without the jury,’ not ‘the judge working together with
    the jury.’” Booker, 543 U.S. at 249. We agree, of course, that the phrase “before the court
    without a jury” means what it says and precludes a jury’s involvement. But the question is how
    far this language extends—i.e., at what point the jury’s involvement is precluded. Section 851
    clearly requires a court, not a jury, to decide disputed issues when the § 851 hearing happens.
    But a § 851 hearing necessarily cannot occur until a defendant files a written § 851 response.
    See 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (c)(1). Fields had not filed a § 851 response when phase two of the trial
    proceeding occurred; therefore, phase two of the trial could not have been a § 851(c)(1) hearing.5
    5
    We also note another problem with Fields’s argument, albeit one that the government has not raised.
    Fields’s entire argument hinges on the language in § 851(c)(1) describing the § 851 hearing, emphasizing that
    § 851(c)(1)’s exclusion of the jury from this hearing necessarily means that the court must decide the Sixth-
    Amendment-implicating facts that he discusses here. But the scope of the § 851(c)(1) hearing—and, by logical
    extension, the scope of the purported obligation for the judge (and not the jury) to decide such facts under Fields’s
    argument—is itself defined by what issues a defendant raises in his written response to the § 851 notice. If a
    defendant does not raise factual objections to the § 851 notice in a written response, there will be no factual issues to
    resolve in the § 851 hearing, and thus no obligation, even under Fields’s argument, for the judge to decide those
    facts. See 
    21 U.S.C. § 851
    (c)(1) (describing hearing as applying to resolve “any issues raised by the [defendant’s]
    response which would except the [defendant] from increased punishment” (emphasis added)); see also United States
    v. Espinal, 
    634 F.3d 655
    , 664 (2d Cir. 2011) (“While § 851(c)(1) requires the government to prove contested facts
    relating to the prior felony beyond a reasonable doubt, that burden is triggered only where the defendant . . . submits
    a written response raising a factual issue.”).
    Fields raised no factual issues in his § 851 response. Indeed, he waited until after trial—and after the jury
    had found the incarceration-related conditions to be met—to file any § 851 response at all, and that response
    challenged only the legal characterization of his prior convictions as being for “serious drug felonies.” See R. 75
    PID 303-05; see also R. 91 PID 353-58 (supplemental brief objecting to PSR, solely raising challenge to this legal
    characterization). He had time to do so before trial. The indictment alleged that he had served over a year in prison
    and was released within fifteen years of the present offense for each of his alleged prior convictions for “serious
    No. 20-5521                                  United States v. Fields                                        Page 18
    And Fields never explains how the statute extends to prohibit the court from sending questions to
    the jury before the § 851 hearing, during a bifurcated trial.
    Because the text does not clearly prohibit what the district court did here, the most Fields
    can hope to show is that § 851 is capable of competing plausible constructions, including his.
    But when a “statute is susceptible of ‘two plausible . . . constructions,’ one of which ‘would raise
    a multitude of constitutional problems, the other should prevail.’” United States v. Erpenbeck,
    
    682 F.3d 472
    , 476 (6th Cir. 2012) (quoting Clark v. Martinez, 
    543 U.S. 371
    , 380-81 (2005)). To
    the extent that is the case here, this canon cuts against Fields’s reading, which would create
    constitutional problems that a contrary reading would avoid.6
    drug felon[ies].” R. 1 PID 1-2. And the government filed a § 851 notice in November 2019, just shy of two months
    before the January 15, 2020 trial started. Indeed, Fields’s counsel told the government that he “ha[d] no objection to
    bifurcation” when the government moved to bifurcate proceedings on January 3, 2020. R. 44 PID 133.
    It is difficult to accept Fields’s argument that § 851 required the court to refrain from sending facts to the
    jury that Fields never challenged in a § 851 written objection—the trigger for a § 851 hearing. Cf. United States v.
    Hill, 
    142 F.3d 305
    , 313 (6th Cir. 1998) (holding that district court’s failure to engage in § 851(b) colloquy was
    harmless because the defendant never filed § 851(c)(1) response challenging his prior convictions: “there is no
    reason for a district court to conduct a hearing on the validity of the prior convictions when a defendant fails to first
    meet the requirements of 21 U.S.C. [§] 851(c), which requires that a defendant give advance notice concerning the
    basis of his challenge”); United States v. Denkins, 
    367 F.3d 537
    , 549 (6th Cir. 2004) (same); United States v.
    Walker, 761 F. App’x 547, 552-53 (6th Cir. 2019) (same). Although we recognize it would be pointless to raise
    such a factual challenge after the incarceration-related facts were found at trial, Fields had two months to do so
    before trial.
    6
    There is another problem with Fields’s argument. Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 23(a) states that
    “[i]f the defendant is entitled to a jury trial, the trial must be by jury unless” the defendant and government waive the
    jury trial in writing and the court approves. Fed. R. Crim. P. 23(a). The committee notes make clear that this rule
    aims to codify the requirements of the Sixth Amendment. Fed. R. Crim. P. 23(a) advisory committee’s note 1 to
    1944 adoption. Rule 23(a) became effective in 1946, while § 851 was enacted in 1970. See Fed. R. Crim. P.
    historical note; Controlled Substances Act, 
    Pub. L. No. 91-513 § 411
    , 
    84 Stat. 1242
    , 1269 (1970). Absent a “clear
    and manifest” intent, we generally disfavor implied repeals of earlier statutes by later ones, Rodriguez v. United
    States, 
    480 U.S. 522
    , 524 (1987) (internal quotation marks omitted); Beckert v. Our Lady of Angels Apartments,
    Inc., 
    192 F.3d 601
    , 606 (6th Cir. 1999), and that principle applies to implied repeals of Federal Rules as well,
    Callihan v. Schneider, 
    178 F.3d 800
    , 802-03 (6th Cir. 1999); Zedner v. United States, 
    547 U.S. 489
    , 507 (2006);
    United States v. Borden Co., 
    308 U.S. 188
    , 198 (1939) (“It is a cardinal principle of construction that repeals by
    implication are not favored. When there are two acts upon the same subject, the rule is to give effect to both if
    possible. The intention of the legislature to repeal ‘must be clear and manifest.’” (citations and internal quotation
    marks omitted)). But the practical import of Fields’s argument is that § 851 impliedly repeals Rule 23(a)’s
    requirement to have a jury trial on any issues implicating the Sixth Amendment. So, Fields’s argument that § 851
    forbids or invalidates the procedure employed here creates a constitutional-avoidance and an “implied-repeal”
    problem. When statutes are ambiguous, we avoid reading them to create constitutional problems, and in general, we
    avoid readings that treat a subsequent statute as impliedly repealing a prior statute (or Federal Rule). Fields’s
    reading would do both.
    No. 20-5521                            United States v. Fields                            Page 19
    ****
    In sum, we conclude that the district court’s bifurcated procedure in this case did not
    violate § 851. Nothing in the statute explicitly forbids the district court from submitting to the
    jury the factual questions it submitted at the point it did so.
    D. The “Finality of Conviction” Argument
    Fields makes one last challenge to the district court’s procedure. He argues that the
    district court violated the Sixth Amendment by failing to require the jury to find the “fact” that
    each of his previous state-law convictions was “final.” Fields Br. at 22. Fields never requested
    that the jury make such a finding and never raised this argument below. We thus review for
    plain error.
    Fields has not shown that any error was “plain.” He cites no cases adopting his position,
    and “[a] lack of binding case law that answers the question presented will . . . preclude our
    finding of plain error.” United States v. Al-Maliki, 
    787 F.3d 784
    , 794 (6th Cir. 2015); see also
    United States v. Gonzalez, 584 F. App’x 188, 190 (5th Cir. 2014) (“Gonzalez is unable to show a
    clear or obvious error on the question whether the finality of the prior conviction is an issue
    beyond the fact of a prior conviction.”) (citing Alleyne, 570 U.S. at 116; Almendarez-Torres, 
    523 U.S. at 239-47
    )). The government also points out that Fields has not shown that the error
    affected his substantial rights, as the plain-error standard requires. Cavazos, 950 F.3d at 334; see
    Gov’t Br. at 28-29 (“Fields served his years-long sentence for each conviction and was initially
    released on parole for those convictions in 2010 and 2014, respectively. There is no doubt that
    his prior convictions long ago became final.” (citation omitted)). Fields fails to contest that point
    in his reply brief. In short, Fields fails to show that plain error warrants reversal on this
    argument.
    IV. THE “SERIOUS DRUG OFFENSE” CHALLENGES
    In his second category of challenges, Fields argues that neither of his prior convictions—
    both for criminal offenses in Kentucky—qualifies as a “serious drug offense.”              His first
    conviction is the Meth-Precursor Offense: a 2006 conviction for violating Kentucky’s statute
    No. 20-5521                                United States v. Fields                                     Page 20
    prohibiting possession of a methamphetamine precursor with intent to manufacture. The second
    is the Trafficking Offense: a 2013 conviction for violating Kentucky’s drug-trafficking statute.
    As relevant here, a “serious drug offense” is “an offense under State law, involving
    manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with intent to manufacture or distribute, a controlled
    substance (as defined in [
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    ]), for which a maximum term of imprisonment of ten
    years or more is prescribed by law[.]” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii).
    To assess Fields’s challenges, we use the “categorical approach.” That approach looks
    only to the statutory definitions of the prior offenses, not the facts underlying each conviction.
    Eason, 919 F.3d at 388. It asks if the underlying state conviction, “by definition, . . . falls within
    [the] category” of offenses described by the federal statute. Mellouli v. Lynch, 
    575 U.S. 798
    , 805
    (2015). We “must presume that the [previous] conviction rested upon nothing more than the
    least of the acts criminalized under the state statute.” 
    Id.
     (internal quotation marks omitted).
    The inquiry is “hypothetical” and asks if “someone [could] commit [the] crime of conviction
    without” meeting the federal enhancement’s criteria. Pereida v. Wilkinson, 
    141 S. Ct. 754
    , 762
    (2021).       But sometimes we must first ask a factual question: “what was [the] crime of
    conviction?” 
    Id.
     This arises when a state law is “divisible,” i.e., has “multiple, stand-alone
    offenses, some of which” meet the federal criteria and “others of which do not.” 
    Id. at 762-63
    .
    In those cases we use a “modified categorical approach,” “consult[ing] a limited class of
    documents[] to determine which alternative formed the basis of the . . . prior conviction[.]”
    Eason, 919 F.3d at 388 (internal quotation marks omitted).7
    A. The Meth-Precursor Offense
    In 2006, Fields was convicted of a first-time violation of Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1437, the
    meth-precursor statute, for “Unlawful Possession of a Methamphetamine Precursor” and
    received an enhancement under Ky. Rev. Stat. § 532.080 for being a “persistent felony offender
    7
    These documents include “the statutory definition, charging document, written plea agreement, transcript
    of plea colloquy, and any explicit factual finding by the trial judge to which the defendant assented.” Shepard v.
    United States, 
    544 U.S. 13
    , 16 (2005).            The laws underlying both of Fields’s convictions refer to
    “methamphetamine” or another “controlled substance.” Ky. Rev. Stat. §§ 218A.1437, 218A.1412. The district
    court found both laws were divisible and, applying the modified categorical approach, looked to the indictments for
    both to determine that they involved methamphetamine, not some other controlled substance. Fields does not
    challenge that analysis, so we assume the same for purposes of resolving this appeal.
    No. 20-5521                              United States v. Fields                                   Page 21
    in the first degree.”       The meth-precursor statute proscribes “knowingly and unlawfully”
    possessing certain chemicals with intent to use them as a precursor to manufacturing
    methamphetamine.        Id. § 218A.1437(1).        A first-time violation is a “Class D” felony, id.
    § 218A.1437(3), which carries a five-year maximum sentence “[u]nless otherwise provided by
    law,” id. § 532.060(2)(c)-(d). But a “persistent felony offender in the first degree” who commits
    a Class D felony is subject to at least a ten-year maximum sentence. Id. § 532.080(6).
    Fields argues that his Meth-Precursor Offense is not a “serious drug offense” because it
    (1) does not carry a ten-year maximum sentence and (2) does not “necessarily entail” the conduct
    described in 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii). The first argument is foreclosed by United States v.
    Rodriquez, 
    553 U.S. 377
     (2008),8 so we focus on the second one. It relies heavily on Shular v.
    United States, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (2020). Fields argues that Shular requires us to ask whether the
    Meth-Precursor Offense necessarily entails any of the conduct described in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii),
    and that because the Meth-Precursor Offense does not necessarily entail “manufacturing,” the
    only relevant prong of § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii), his enhancement cannot stand. He acknowledges,
    however, that in 2019 we held that a similar Tennessee statute—barring possession of
    methamphetamine ingredients with recklessness as to their potential use in manufacturing—was
    a “serious drug offense.” Eason, 919 F.3d at 390-92. But Eason was a pre-Shular decision, and
    Fields argues that because Eason’s test—requiring only that the prior offense be related to or
    connected with the conduct listed in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii)—is far broader than Shular’s, Eason
    should not control our decision here.
    Because the Meth-Precursor Offense would constitute a “serious drug offense” under
    Eason’s broader “relates to or connects with” test, but may not under Shular’s “necessarily
    entails” test, our threshold question is which standard applies.
    8
    Fields’s first argument is that the Meth-Precursor Offense is not “punishable by ten years or more
    imprisonment” because a first-time violation of § 218A.1437 alone—without considering the persistent felony
    offender enhancement—would only permit five years’ imprisonment. But Rodriquez held that courts must consider
    all applicable state recidivism enhancements affecting the defendant’s maximum sentence. 
    553 U.S. at 383-84
    . In
    light of Rodriquez, Fields’s first argument is unavailing.
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    1.
    Prior to Shular, most circuits, including ours in Eason, interpreted the word “involving”
    in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) to require only that a prior state offense “relate to or connect with” the
    offenses listed in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii). See Eason, 919 F.3d at 390-91 (collecting cases). But a
    few circuits read “involving” more narrowly. See United States v. Franklin, 
    904 F.3d 793
    , 800-
    02 & n.9 (9th Cir. 2018) (rejecting the “relates to or connects with” test as overly broad),
    abrogated on other grounds by Shular, 140 S. Ct. at 784; United States v. Brandon, 
    247 F.3d 186
    , 191 (4th Cir. 2001) (asking, more narrowly, whether the prior offense “intrinsically
    involves the proscribed conduct” in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii), or whether that “conduct is an inherent
    part or result of the generic [state] crime of conviction”). There are dictionary definitions
    supporting both views.9
    At the same time the “relates to or connects with” line of cases developed, courts
    considering similar provisions outside the § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) context often interpreted
    “involving” more narrowly. The most significant example is the Supreme Court’s decision in
    Kawashima v. Holder, 
    565 U.S. 478
    , 481, 484-85 (2012). Applying the categorical approach,
    Kawashima held that an immigration statute providing for removal upon commission of an
    offense that “involves fraud or deceit” applies to “offenses with elements that necessarily entail
    fraudulent or deceitful conduct.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis added). Several decisions in other contexts have
    taken similar approaches.10
    9
    For example, one entry in Merriam Webster defines “involve” to mean “to have within or as part of itself:
    Include,” or “to require as a necessary accompaniment: Entail,” which hews closely to the narrower Brandon
    articulation; but another entry defines the word to mean “to relate closely: Connect,” which echoes the “relates to or
    connects with” formulation. Involve, MERRIAM-WEBSTER, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/involve
    (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022).
    10
    See, e.g., Lovano v. Lynch, 
    846 F.3d 815
    , 817 (6th Cir. 2017) (describing BIA interpretation of statutory
    phrase “crime involving moral turpitude” as asking whether prior crimes “necessarily entail[] conduct” reaching
    certain levels of culpability); United States v. Reliford, 
    471 F.3d 913
    , 916 (8th Cir. 2006) (applying a “necessarily
    entails” test to determine, under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii), whether a prior offense “otherwise involves conduct
    that presents a serious potential risk of physical injury to another”); United States v. Montgomery, 
    402 F.3d 482
    , 488
    (5th Cir. 2005) (same); United States v. Scheels, 
    846 F.3d 1341
    , 1342 (11th Cir. 2017) (per curiam) (noting that
    “[t]he ordinary meaning of ‘involve,’”—as used in U.S.S.G. § 2G2.1(b)(4)’s enhancement for offenses that
    “involve[] material that portrays sadistic or masochistic conduct”—“is ‘[t]o have as a necessary feature or
    consequence; entail,’ or ‘to have within or as a part of itself’” (emphasis added) (citations omitted)); United States v.
    Lachowski, 
    405 F.3d 696
    , 699 (8th Cir. 2005) (applying similar definition to interpret word “involving” in 21 U.S.C.
    No. 20-5521                                   United States v. Fields                                         Page 23
    Shular appeared to adopt the Kawashima interpretation of “involves” in the
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) context. The parties in Shular disagreed on the type of categorical analysis
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) calls for. The defendant argued for a “generic-offense matching exercise,”
    under which state-law convictions only constitute “serious drug offenses” if their elements match
    the elements of the “generic” versions of the offenses listed in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii). 140 S. Ct. at
    783-84. The government argued that the Kawashima test should apply instead, which requires
    courts to ask if the elements of the prior offense necessarily entail conduct described in
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii), without the need to define a generic offense. The Court concluded that the
    government’s reading was the correct one. See id. at 784-85 (“In the Government’s view, a court
    should apply ‘the Kawashima categorical approach’: It should ask whether the state offense’s
    elements ‘necessarily entail one of the types of conduct’ identified in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) . . . .
    The Government’s reading, we are convinced, correctly interprets the statutory text and
    context.”).
    Post-Shular, several circuits that previously applied (or favorably cited cases applying)
    the “relates to or connects with” test have recognized that Kawashima’s “necessarily entails” test
    now governs in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) contexts. See United States v. Godinez, 
    955 F.3d 651
    , 656-57
    (7th Cir. 2020); United States v. Coleman, 
    977 F.3d 666
    , 669-70 (8th Cir. 2020); United States v.
    Smith, 
    983 F.3d 1213
    , 1223 (11th Cir. 2020).11 The Ninth Circuit—which rejected this broader
    § 853(q), which provides for restitution for crimes “involving the manufacture of amphetamine or
    methamphetamine”).
    11
    For pertinent pre-Shular decisions from these circuits, see United States v. Williams, 
    931 F.3d 570
    , 575
    (7th Cir. 2019); United States v. Bynum, 
    669 F.3d 880
    , 886-87 (8th Cir. 2012); see also United States v. Smith, 
    775 F.3d 1262
    , 1267 (11th Cir. 2014) (noting that § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) “require[s] only that the predicate offense
    ‘involv[es]’ . . . certain activities related to controlled substances” (alteration in original) (emphasis added)); United
    States v. White, 
    837 F.3d 1225
    , 1233 (11th Cir. 2016) (stating that several cases in the “relates to or connects with”
    line of decisions have “likewise adopted an expansive interpretation of the word ‘involving’”). The Fifth Circuit—
    another prior adherent to the broader version of the test, see United States v. Vickers, 
    540 F.3d 356
    , 365 (5th Cir.
    2008)— recently discussed (but declined to rule on) Shular’s impact on the “relates to or connects with” test.
    United States v. Prentice, 
    956 F.3d 295
     (5th Cir. 2020). The court assumed without deciding that the defendant was
    correct when he argued that Shular endorsed a narrower understanding of “involving” than Vickers did, but held that
    even under Shular, the prior crime at issue was a “serious drug offense.” 
    Id. at 299
    . The panel noted, however, that
    Shular “altered” the rationale of its pre-Shular caselaw. See 
    id.
     (“Shular altered the rationale underlying Vickers,
    but not its result.”); 
    id. at 300
     (“The precise reasoning of Vickers, i.e., its interpretation of ‘involving,’ differs from
    that of Shular and seems at odds with Shular’s focus on the underlying conduct charged in state offenses.”).
    Similarly, although the First Circuit previously read “involve” to mean “relate closely” or “connect closely” when
    construing § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) (but added that “involving” should not be read too broadly), United States v.
    McKenney, 
    450 F.3d 39
    , 43, 45 (1st Cir. 2006), it later applied Shular’s “necessary” approach when construing
    No. 20-5521                                United States v. Fields                                    Page 24
    test pre-Shular, see Franklin, 904 F.3d at 800-02 & n.9—has recognized the same in a post-
    Shular decision. United States v. Davis, 806 F. App’x 572, 574 (9th Cir. 2020).
    One panel is usually bound by the ruling of a previous one, but there is an exception to
    that rule when the Supreme Court issues an intervening decision that is directly on point.
    Ne. Ohio Coal. for the Homeless v. Husted, 
    831 F.3d 686
    , 720-21 (6th Cir. 2016).                            That
    exception applies even when the intervening Supreme Court decision is not “precisely on point”
    but provides “directly applicable” legal reasoning, 
    id.,
     or when it provides on-point dictum, see
    In re Baker, 
    791 F.3d 677
    , 682-83 (6th Cir. 2015) (stating that on-point Supreme Court dictum in
    bankruptcy case governed rather than prior panel holding, to extent the two conflicted).
    Here, Shular is directly on point. It held that the government “correctly” read § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii),
    and the government had asserted that the statute calls for courts to “ask whether the state
    offense’s elements ‘necessarily entail one of the types of conduct’ identified in
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii).” Shular, 140 S. Ct. at 784-85. To the extent that this “necessarily entails”
    test was part of the Court’s underlying rationale for adopting the government’s conduct-based
    interpretation, we are bound to follow it. See Ne. Ohio Coal. for the Homeless, 813 F.3d at 721.
    We are aware of no circuit decisions declining to follow Shular’s discussion of the
    “necessarily entails” test on the basis that it was dictum. And some decisions have expressly
    stated that this discussion was part of Shular’s holding. See Smith, 983 F.3d at 1223 (“The
    Supreme Court held that a court determining whether an offense qualifies as a serious drug
    offense need only consider whether the offense’s elements ‘necessarily entail’ the types of
    conduct identified in the ACCA’s definition rather than engage in a ‘generic-offense matching
    exercise.’” (quoting Shular, 140 S. Ct. at 783-84)); United States v. Curry, 833 F. App’x 328,
    329 (11th Cir. 2020) (same).            But we note that after Shular stated that the government
    “correctly” read § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) as requiring courts to apply the “Kawashima categorical
    approach,” it noted—in a single sentence three paragraphs later—that the parties agreed on the
    “involving” as used in another statutory provision, United States v. Sandoval, 
    6 F.4th 63
    , 108-10 (1st Cir. 2021).
    And we recently recognized, albeit when interpreting a Guidelines provision rather than § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii), that
    Shular’s narrower understanding of “involve” may be at odds with Eason’s broader understanding of the term.
    United States v. Gould, 
    30 F.4th 538
    , 545-46 (6th Cir. 2022); see also United States v. Winn, No. 20-1477, 
    2022 WL 636633
    , at *4 n.7 (3d Cir. Mar. 4, 2022) (recognizing that Shular introduced a new approach).
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    dictionary definition of “involve” as meaning “necessarily require.” Shular, 140 S. Ct. at 783-
    85.12 The same is the case here.
    Though no party raises it, we can imagine an argument that Shular’s recognition of party
    agreement on that definition somehow deprived its discussion of the “necessarily entails” test of
    any precedential value. A close reading of Shular, however, cuts the other way. It is true that
    the parties agreed on the definition of “involving,” but they did not agree on the test to apply in
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) cases. That was the dispute the Court aimed to resolve. See id. at 782 (“This
    case concerns the methodology courts use to apply that definition.”); id. at 783-84 (describing
    the generic element-matching test and then the Kawashima “necessarily entails” test, then
    stating, “[t]his case invites us to decide which of the two categorical methodologies just
    described applies”).
    The Court set up and resolved that dispute by describing both parties’ proposed
    approaches and affirmatively choosing the government’s test.                         See id. at 784-85 (“In the
    Government’s view, a court should apply ‘the Kawashima categorical approach’ [and] ask
    whether the state offense’s elements ‘necessarily entail one of the types of conduct identified in
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii). . . . The Government’s reading, we are convinced, correctly interprets the
    statutory text and context.”). The Court’s recognition—in a single sentence, three paragraphs
    later—that the parties agreed on the dictionary definition of “involve” does not erase its previous
    articulation of its own position: that the government’s interpretation (that the Kawashima test
    applies) was the “correct[]” one. Id. at 785.
    The view that Shular’s holding focused solely on whether § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) referred to
    conduct or generic elements, and that any comment on the applicable test (i.e., Kawashima’s test
    or something else) was extraneous carves out the Court’s explicit recognition that the
    12
    See id. at 785 (“[B]y speaking of activities a state-law drug offense ‘involv[es],’ § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii)
    suggests that the descriptive terms immediately following the word ‘involving’ identify conduct. The parties agree
    that ‘involve’ means ‘necessarily requir[e].’ Brief for Petitioner 14 (citing Random House Dictionary of the English
    Language 1005 (2d ed. 1987) (‘to include as a necessary circumstance, condition, or consequence’)); Brief for
    United States 21 (same). It is natural to say that an offense ‘involves’ or ‘requires’ certain conduct. . . . To refer to
    offenses as Shular urges, it would have been far more natural for the drafter to follow the enumerated-offense clause
    in using ‘is,’ not ‘involving.’ Yet Congress did not adopt that formulation in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii), opting instead for
    language suited to conduct.” (citations omitted)).
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    government “correctly interpreted” § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) as requiring inquiry into whether a state
    offense’s elements “necessarily entailed” the conduct listed in the provision. This view also
    supposes that the Court—despite setting out to identify the correct “methodology courts use to
    apply” the serious-drug-offense definition, id. 782—chose to avoid articulating the proper test,
    and that it did so without noting that it did not intend its articulation of the “correct[]” test to be
    binding.
    Further, Shular resolved a dispute over whether the generic-offense test or some other
    test applied. One side said the generic-offense test applied while the other said the Kawashima
    test applied.     The Court said the latter represented a correct reading of the statute.                      That
    statement—that Kawashima’s test is the “correct[]” one—was part of its answer to the central
    issue raised in the case. That statement was not dictum, see Wright v. Spaulding, 
    939 F.3d 695
    ,
    701 (6th Cir. 2019) (“The decision of the issue must contribute to the judgment[.]”), and, at
    minimum, is certainly an intervening on-point statement of the Court.13 Further, as Judge
    Murphy thoughtfully explains in his separate opinion, it is the better understanding of the word
    “involve.”
    We thus conclude that we should follow Shular and now ask whether the elements of
    Fields’s state offenses “necessarily entail” conduct described in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii). All agree that
    “manufacturing” is the only conduct implicated. So, we ask if the Meth-Precursor Offense
    “necessarily entails” manufacturing.
    13
    But even if the statement were dictum—a proposition we have not seen any post-Shular courts
    definitively endorse—we would still follow it here. “Honoring intervening Supreme Court authority is a critical
    duty for any lower court, including ours.” Williams v. Burt, 
    949 F.3d 966
    , 977 (6th Cir. 2020); see also Ne. Ohio
    Coal. for the Homeless, 
    831 F.3d at 721
     (“[L]ower courts are ‘bound not only by the holdings of higher courts’
    decisions but also by their ‘mode of analysis’” (quoting Troy v. Samson Mfg. Corp., 
    758 F.3d 1322
    , 1326 (Fed. Cir.
    2014))). Accordingly, our circuit has repeatedly stated that we must give on-point Supreme Court dictum
    substantial weight. See, e.g., Holt v. City of Battle Creek, 
    925 F.3d 905
    , 910 (6th Cir. 2019) (“Even if the Supreme
    Court’s statement in Encino was dicta outside of the context of the salesman exemption, ‘[l]ower courts are
    obligated to follow Supreme Court dicta, particularly where there is not substantial reason for disregarding it, such
    as age or subsequent statements undermining its rationale.’” (quoting In re Baker, 791 F.3d at 682; Murray v. U.S.
    Dep’t of Treasury, 
    681 F.3d 744
    , 750 n.5 (6th Cir. 2012); ACLU of Ky. v. McCreary County, 
    607 F.3d 439
    , 447 (6th
    Cir. 2010); United States v. Marlow, 
    278 F.3d 581
    , 588 n.7 (6th Cir. 2002); United States v. Morgan, 572 F. App’x
    292, 301 (6th Cir. 2014). There is no substantial reason to disregard Shular’s indication that the narrow
    interpretation of “involve” applies under § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii).
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    2.
    Section 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) does not define “manufacture” but the Controlled Substances
    Act does.       It defines manufacture to “mean[] the production, preparation, propagation,
    compounding, or processing of a drug or other substance, either directly or indirectly or by
    extraction from substances of natural origin, or independently by means of chemical synthesis or
    by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis[.]” 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (15). When used in
    connection with a word like “substance” or “drug,” the words in this definition connote (1) the
    creation of a final product from component ingredients and (2) the initiation of a process for
    doing so.14
    Statutory context indicates that § 802(15)’s definition of “manufacture” does not
    encompass mere possession of a precursor with intent to manufacture. Congress chose to create
    separate substantive offenses for “manufacturing” (see 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (a)(1)), on the one hand,
    and possession of ingredients with intent to manufacture, on the other, see, e.g., 
    id.
     §§ 841(c)(1),
    843(a)(6). Reading § 802(15)’s definition of “manufacture” to include possession with intent to
    manufacture would collapse the distinction between these crimes; and if Congress meant the
    word “manufacture” to include possession with intent, it would have been pointless to treat that
    conduct as a crime separate from the substantive offense of manufacturing.
    14
    “Produce,” “prepare,” and “compound” describe the creation of a final product from several ingredients;
    “produce” and “prepare” also refer to engaging in a process to do so, as do “propagate” and “process.” See id.
    § 802(22) (defining “production” to “includ[e] the manufacture, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting of a
    controlled substance”); Produce, OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, https://tinyurl.com/3szjh3dd (last accessed Aug. 2,
    2022) (to “bring (a thing) into existence from its raw materials or elements, or as the result of a process”);
    Preparation, OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, https://tinyurl.com/2bvr7ryz (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022) (the “action
    or process of specially producing or making up a thing in its proper condition for use or consideration . . . the
    making of a chemical compound, drug, etc., from appropriate starting materials”); Prepare, OXFORD ENGLISH
    DICTIONARY, https://tinyurl.com/5a55f26z (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022) (“To produce, form, or make, esp. by
    bringing together ingredients or components; to manufacture; to synthesize, concoct, compound. . . . To bring (an
    object, substance, surface, etc.) into a fit condition for use by means of some special or technical process”);
    Compound, OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, https://tinyurl.com/p7pdjp79 (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022) (“To make up
    (a composite product) by the mixture of combination of various ingredients or elements”). Process, OXFORD
    ENGLISH DICTIONARY, https://tinyurl.com/3hjcbsbj (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022) (“To subject to or treat by a special
    process; to operate on mechanically or chemically.”); Propagate, OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY,
    https://tinyurl.com/ejs36j4c (last accessed Aug. 2, 2022) (“[T]o cause (a plant, animal, etc.) to reproduce or
    multiply.”).
    No. 20-5521                                 United States v. Fields                                      Page 28
    3.
    The Kentucky meth-precursor statute prohibits the “unlawful possession” of a “drug
    product or combination of drug products containing ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, or
    phenylpropanolamine, or their salts, isomers, or salts of isomers, with the intent to use the drug
    product or combination of drug products as a precursor to manufacturing methamphetamine or
    other controlled substance.” Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1437(1).15
    In Kentucky’s methamphetamine-focused statutory framework, the meth-precursor
    statute sits near the bottom of the ladder. It applies when someone possesses one of the
    chemicals listed in § 218A.1437(1) with intent to manufacture methamphetamine. Possession of
    two or more of those chemicals—or any others used for manufacturing methamphetamine—is a
    more serious Class B felony under Kentucky’s methamphetamine-manufacturing statute.
    Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1432(1)(b).               That statute proscribes “knowingly and unlawfully”
    (a) manufacturing methamphetamine or (b) “[w]ith intent to manufacture methamphetamine
    possess[ing] two (2) or more chemicals or two (2) or more items of equipment for the
    manufacture of methamphetamine.” Id. § 218A.1432(1)(a)-(b).
    The “only difference” between the meth-precursor statute and the chemical-possession
    subsection of the methamphetamine-manufacturing statute is that “the manufacturing-
    methamphetamine statute requires possession of additional contraband beyond that necessary for
    a possession-of-a-methamphetamine-precursor conviction.”                          Sevier v. Commonwealth,
    
    434 S.W.3d 443
    , 451-52 (Ky. 2014) (noting that the methamphetamine-manufacturing statute’s
    chemical-possession prong has, for practical purposes, the same “intent” element as the meth-
    precursor statute and “simply requires proof of an additional fact”—“possession of an additional
    chemical”).
    The Kentucky Supreme Court has stated that both the meth-precursor statute and
    “chemical-possession” prong of the methamphetamine-manufacturing statute can be violated
    15
    Some of the chemicals listed in this statute are available in over-the-counter products that can be legally
    purchased at pharmacies. For example, pseudoephedrine is found in the over-the-counter cold medicine, Sudafed.
    See Hayes v. Commonwealth, 
    175 S.W.3d 574
    , 580 (Ky. 2005) (“Sudafed is a cold medication containing
    pseudoephedrine, a precursor used to manufacture methamphetamine.”).
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    before it is even possible to begin the manufacturing process. See Kotila v. Commonwealth,
    
    114 S.W.3d 226
    , 240 (Ky. 2003) (“KRS § 218A.1437(1) . . . [was] intended to fill the gap where
    there is proof of possession of a methamphetamine precursor . . . but not proof of possession of .
    . . other chemicals necessary to                   manufacture methamphetamine.”)16;                Sizemore     v.
    Commonwealth, 
    2011 WL 317474
     at *3 (Ky. Jan. 27, 2011) (noting that § 218A.1432(1)(b) does
    “not actually require that [the defendant] had been actively ‘involved’ in manufacturing
    methamphetamine” or the “‘manufacturing process’”); id. (adding that statute requires no
    “immediate intent to manufacture” and “impl[ies] that an intent to manufacture at some point in
    the future would suffice”).
    4.
    With that understanding, we turn to the parties’ arguments. The government argues that
    the meth-precursor statute requires intent to manufacture and therefore necessarily entails
    manufacturing. Fields replies that intent to take an action does not necessarily mean the action
    will occur and argues that the statute plainly does not require that someone manufacture a
    controlled substance. Fields is correct.
    To start, Kentucky’s Supreme Court has specifically recognized that the meth-precursor
    statute was meant to apply when a defendant was not yet even capable of manufacturing
    methamphetamine because he did not yet possess the materials necessary to do so. Kotila,
    114 S.W.3d at 240. It is hard to say that a statute tailored to situations where manufacture is not
    yet possible “necessarily entails” manufacturing conduct. Indeed, when a defendant possesses
    16
    Kotila has been partially abrogated, but not the proposition in the cited passage. Kotila held that a
    previous version of the meth-manufacturing statute—which only referred to possession of “the” chemicals or
    equipment used in methamphetamine manufacture, as opposed to “two (2) or more” of either—required possession
    of all the chemicals or all the equipment necessary to manufacture methamphetamine. 114 S.W.3d at 236-37.
    Kotila was abrogated by statute in 2005 when the legislature expressly added the “two (2) or more” language. And
    Matheney v. Commonwealth, 
    191 S.W.3d 599
    , 602-04 (Ky. 2006) overruled Kotila’s interpretation of the pre-
    amendment version of the statute, holding that this version also required only possession of two or more (not all)
    chemicals or pieces of equipment. Kotila’s recognition that § 218A.1437 fills a gap remains correct, but the size of
    the gap has shrunk. Kotila said § 218A.1437 applied where a defendant possesses a methamphetamine precursor but
    did not possess “all of the other chemicals necessary to manufacture methamphetamine.” 114 S.W.3d at 240
    (emphasis added). But after Matheney and the 2005 statutory amendment, it is more accurate to say that the meth-
    precursor statute occupies a gap where a defendant possesses a precursor but there is no proof of possession of any
    other chemicals used to manufacture methamphetamine. Once a defendant possesses any second chemical,
    § 218A.1432(1)(b) would apply instead.
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    more than one methamphetamine ingredient, the harsher § 218A.1432(1)(b) statute would apply
    instead. Sevier, 434 S.W.3d at 451-52. And the Kentucky Supreme Court has expressly stated
    that even that statute does not “actually require that [the defendant] had been actively ‘involved’
    in manufacturing methamphetamine” or the “‘manufacturing process.’” Sizemore, 
    2011 WL 317474
     at *3. That observation necessarily applies to the meth-precursor statute as well, given
    that the two statutes target the same conduct and intent. Sevier, 434 S.W.3d at 451-52.
    These statements from the Kentucky Supreme Court show that the answer to our
    dispositive question—whether a violation of § 218A.1437(1) necessarily entails “manufacturing”
    methamphetamine—is “no.” So does common sense. Consider a variation on the district court’s
    hypothetical: “somebody is in a drugstore and shoplifts a pack of Sudafed with the intent to take
    it to a [methamphetamine] cook” a month later, but is arrested right after leaving the store.17 It is
    hard to see how that person was “manufacturing” methamphetamine. Because the person does
    not yet have ingredients other than pseudoephedrine (if he did, he would be facing
    § 218A.1432(1)(b) charges instead), he necessarily cannot yet begin the process of combining
    ingredients to form a finished product.
    The government asserts that because a defendant convicted of the Meth-Precursor
    Offense must have an intent to manufacture, “the necessary result or consequence of his
    possession [is] the manufacture of methamphetamine.” Gov’t Br. at 35. This logic does not hold
    together. Intent to take an action does not necessarily mean the action will occur. The shoplifter
    example bears that out. Because the shoplifter was arrested, no manufacturing process ever
    began.18
    Believing that Eason decides the issue, the district court reached the opposite conclusion.
    To be sure, Eason is analogous; it found a conviction under a similar state statute to be a “serious
    drug offense.” 919 F.3d at 387-92. But Eason asked if that offense “related to or connected
    17
    Cf. Pittman v. Commonwealth, 
    2007 WL 1195442
     at *1 (Ky. Ct. App. Apr. 6, 2007) (describing
    indictment for meth-precursor offense after defendant was caught “stealing sudafed from a Kroger [pharmacy]
    store”).
    18
    Everyday examples suggest the same. For example, if a baker goes to the store on Monday to buy some
    ingredients for a cake to be made on Saturday, nobody would say the baker had begun making the cake upon leaving
    the store on Monday.
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    with” manufacturing, a far broader (and more elastic) question. See Mellouli, 575 U.S. at 811-12
    (noting that phrases like “relating to[] are broad and indeterminate” and “stop nowhere” when
    “extended to the furthest stretch of their indeterminacy” (citations, alterations, and internal
    quotation marks omitted)).19 Possessing a precursor with intent to manufacture may “relate to
    and connect with” manufacturing, but the Shular question is whether it “necessarily entails”
    manufacturing. The latter test is narrower, and Eason never applied it.
    The government makes one last argument: it points out that another provision of the
    “serious drug offense” definition covers any offense under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA)
    with a maximum sentence of ten or more years, 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(i); contends that
    possessing a precursor with intent to manufacture would amount to a CSA offense for possessing
    certain kinds of chemicals with intent to manufacture under 
    21 U.S.C. § 843
    (a)(6) (which
    provides a ten-year maximum sentence when applied to methamphetamine, 
    id.
     § 843(d)(2)); and
    argues that Congress “could [not] have intended to exclude state offenses that necessarily require
    the intent to use a substance to manufacture methamphetamine, because that same conduct, when
    charged under [§ 843(a)(6)], qualifies as a ‘serious drug offense.’” Gov’t Br. at 36.
    Again, we are not persuaded.                We are interpreting § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) here, not
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(i). If Congress wanted, it could have defined “serious drug offense” to include
    any state-law offense that, had it been prosecuted federally, would have fit the criteria described
    in § 924(e)(2)(A)(i). Elsewhere, it has done just that. See, e.g., 
    18 U.S.C. § 3559
    (c)(2)(H)(i)-(ii)
    (defining the term “serious drug offense,” in a different context, to mean either an offense under
    certain federal drug-law provisions or a state-law offense “that, had [it] been prosecuted in a
    [federal] court . . . would have been punishable under” those same federal provisions). But it
    chose not to here. The categorical approach requires us to focus on the words Congress used in
    19
    Accord Maracich v. Spears, 
    570 U.S. 48
    , 59-60 (2013) (“The phrase ‘in connection with’ is essentially
    ‘indeterminat[e]’ because connections, like relations, ‘stop nowhere.’ So the phrase ‘in connection with’ provides
    little guidance without a limiting principle[.]” (citations omitted); 
    id. at 60
     (“[A]pplying the ‘relate to’ provision
    according to its terms was a project doomed to failure, since, as many a curbstone philosopher has observed,
    everything is related to everything else.” (quoting Cal. Div. of Lab. Standards Enf’t v. Dillingham Constr., N.A.,
    Inc., 
    519 U.S. 316
    , 335 (1997) (Scalia, J., concurring)); N.Y. State Conf. of Blue Cross & Blue Shield Plans v.
    Travelers Ins. Co., 
    514 U.S. 645
    , 655 (1995) (“If ‘relate to’ were taken to extend to the furthest stretch of its
    indeterminacy, then for all practical purposes pre-emption would never run its course, for ‘[r]eally, universally,
    relations stop nowhere.’” (citation omitted)).
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    the enhancement being applied. The government’s final argument strays too far afield from that
    task.20
    In short, it is possible to violate the meth-precursor statute without committing
    manufacturing conduct. Accordingly, the Meth-Precursor Offense does not “necessarily entail”
    manufacturing under § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) and does not constitute a “serious drug offense.”
    B. The Trafficking Offense
    Fields also argues that his second state-court conviction—for first degree trafficking in a
    controlled substance, in violation of Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1412—does not constitute a “serious
    drug felony.” This provision prohibited “knowingly and unlawfully traffic[king]” in a number of
    drugs, including “methamphetamine.” Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.1412(1) (effective June 8, 2011 to
    March 24, 2015). Fields argues that this offense is overly broad because at the time of his
    offense (2012/13), an over-the-counter inhaler containing certain levels of levmetamfetamine
    would have fit within Kentucky’s definition of an illegal “methamphetamine,” while federal
    regulations exempted the same kind of over-the-counter inhaler.                        The problem with this
    argument, however, is that another Kentucky statute required the state agency responsible for
    scheduling controlled substances to “exclude any nonnarcotic substance from a schedule if the
    substance may be lawfully sold over the counter without prescription” under the Federal Food,
    Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) or the Federal Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and
    Control Act of 1970. Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.020(4). The FDA exempted the inhaler Fields
    mentions from federal schedules in 2010, two years before his 2012 Trafficking Offense. See 
    75 Fed. Reg. 13678
    , 13678 (Mar. 23, 2010) (final rule categorizing this inhaler as a “nonnarcotic
    drug product[] which may be lawfully sold over the counter without a prescription under the
    [FDCA]”). Though the relevant state agency had not yet exempted the inhaler from state
    20
    And as noted above, the government’s reference to 
    21 U.S.C. § 843
    (a)(6), if anything, hurts its position.
    Congress chose to make “manufacturing” and possession of chemicals with intent to manufacture separate crimes,
    under 
    21 U.S.C. §§ 841
    (a)(1) and 843(a)(6), respectively. If we interpret 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (15)’s definition of
    “manufacture” to include possession of chemicals with intent to manufacture, we would partially collapse the
    distinction between these two crimes, because anytime someone possessed chemicals with intent to manufacture,
    they would also (under such a reading) be guilty of manufacturing. If anything, the existence of § 843(a)(6)
    underscores that § 802(15)’s definition of “manufacture” does not include possession with intent to manufacture,
    because any other reading would render other substantive portions of the CSA superfluous.
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    schedules, see 902 K.A.R. 55:040 (2012 ed.),21 a Kentucky statute required the inhaler to be
    exempted, and the relevant Kentucky statutes therefore do not support Fields’s contention that
    Kentucky law defined “methamphetamine” more broadly than federal law.
    Finally, in a barely developed argument, Fields argues that the Kentucky trafficking
    statute is overly broad because Kentucky’s definition of “trafficking” includes “dispensing,”
    which is “excepted from 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii).” Fields Br. at 31. Fields looks to United
    States v. Goldston to support this assertion. 
    906 F.3d 390
     (6th Cir. 2018). In that case, however,
    we rejected the argument that Tennessee’s definition of “deliver” was overly broad for including
    “dispensing” because Tennessee does not actually criminalize “dispensing” in that by definition
    dispensing can only occur “by or pursuant to the lawful order of a practitioner.” 
    Id. at 395
    (quoting Tennessee law). Under Kentucky’s statutory scheme, “[d]ispens[ing]” is also defined
    as “deliver[ing] a controlled substance . . . by or pursuant to the lawful order of a practitioner,”
    Ky. Rev. Stat. § 218A.010(11), which, following Goldston’s reasoning and the fact that Fields
    cites no other case to support his argument, makes it equally unrealistic that Kentucky would
    apply § 218A.1412 to conduct falling outside § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii)’s coverage. Cf. Goldston, 906
    F.3d at 395-97; see also United States v. Fox, No. 20-6039, 
    2021 WL 3747190
     at *2-4 (6th Cir.
    Aug. 25, 2021) (concluding that “Kentucky’s first-degree drug-trafficking qualifies as a ‘serious
    drug felony’ under the First Step Act”). Thus, we reject Field’s final argument.
    V. CONCLUSION
    In sum, we reject Fields’s challenges to the procedure used to impose his enhancement
    and his argument that the Trafficking Offense was not a “serious drug offense.” We agree with
    Fields that the Meth-Precursor Offense was not a “serious drug offense” and therefore cannot
    serve as a “serious drug felony” for purposes of Fields’s twenty-five-year-mandatory-minimum
    enhancement. We therefore AFFIRM in part, VACATE Fields’s sentence, and REMAND for
    resentencing consistent with this opinion.
    21
    Kentucky eventually amended its regulations in 2017 to simply exclude all over-the-counter products
    excluded from federal schedules, as opposed to enumerating each excluded product. 902 K.A.R. 55:040 (2017 ed.).
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    ________________________
    CONCURRENCE
    ________________________
    MURPHY, Circuit Judge, concurring. I concur in Judge White’s excellent opinion for
    the court.      I write to add a few more thoughts on whether we should follow the narrow
    interpretation of the word “involving” from Shular v. United States, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (2020), or
    stick with the broad interpretation from United States v. Eason, 
    919 F.3d 385
     (6th Cir. 2019).
    I find the issue difficult. We have a duty to follow a published precedent like Eason, and its
    reading comports with the near consensus of courts that considered this issue before Shular. Yet
    Shular’s reasoning calls Eason into doubt. And the federal government—which appears to have
    changed positions between Eason and Shular—does not ask us to follow Eason’s broad
    interpretation as a precedential matter. At day’s end, I view Shular’s reading as the correct one.
    And because Shular allows us to depart from Eason under our precedent on precedent, we should
    adopt that reading here.
    I
    Several federal drug laws increase the length of a defendant’s sentence if the defendant
    has one or more prior convictions for a “serious drug felony,” a phrase that incorporates the
    Armed Career Criminal Act’s definition of “serious drug offense.” 
    21 U.S.C. §§ 802
    (57), 841.
    The Armed Career Criminal Act, in turn, defines “serious drug offense” to cover “an offense
    under State law, involving manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with intent to manufacture
    or distribute, a controlled substance” if the offense has a maximum punishment of ten or more
    years in prison. 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii). This definition raises a recurring question of great
    importance for defendants convicted of various drug or firearm offenses. Suppose a defendant
    has previously committed a state crime like attempting to manufacture drugs, conspiring to
    distribute drugs, or possessing an ingredient with an intent to manufacture drugs. Do these
    inchoate crimes “involve” drug “manufacturing” or “distributing” under § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) even
    if a person can accomplish them without engaging in anything that resembles manufacturing or
    distributing?
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    This case brings us to a fork in the road on this question. Down one path, we could
    continue to follow Eason. That decision treated these types of incomplete crimes as “serious
    drug offenses” even if a defendant could commit them without manufacturing or distributing
    drugs (or possessing drugs with the required intent). 919 F.3d at 390–92; see also United States
    v. Myers, 
    925 F.3d 881
    , 884–86 (6th Cir. 2019); Young v. Quintana, 
    2019 WL 11863648
    , at *4
    (6th Cir. May 15, 2019). Eason considered a Tennessee law that barred a person from buying a
    methamphetamine ingredient with reckless disregard as to whether the ingredient would be used
    to make methamphetamine. 919 F.3d at 388–89. There, we interpreted the statutory definition’s
    key word—involving—to mean “related to or connected with[.]” Id. at 390 (citation omitted).
    And while a defendant could commit the crime by merely buying an ingredient (without starting
    the manufacturing process), we found that this conduct was related to manufacturing because it
    was “an essential first step to the drug’s manufacture.” Id. at 391. This broad reading adopted
    the government’s position in Eason: “The test should be whether the prior conviction was
    ‘related to or connected with’ drug manufacture, distribution, or possession with intent to
    manufacture or distribute, as long as the relationship is not ‘too remote or tangential.’” Brief for
    the United States at 13, Eason, 
    919 F.3d 385
     (No. 18-5387), 
    2018 WL 3218556
     (citation
    omitted).
    Down the other path, we could follow language from Shular. That language suggests that
    we should exclude these inchoate crimes from the definition of “serious drug offense” if a
    defendant could commit them without manufacturing or distributing drugs (or possessing them
    with the required intent). See 140 S. Ct. at 785. Shular considered the process that courts should
    follow to decide whether a state offense qualifies as a “serious drug offense.” Id. at 782. The
    defendant argued that courts should identify the elements of a “generic” manufacturing,
    distributing, or possessing offense and ask whether the defendant’s crime contains all elements
    of this court-identified “generic” crime. Id. The government responded that courts should ask
    simply whether the defendant’s crime will always “involve” the listed behavior—manufacturing
    drugs, distributing drugs, or possessing drugs with the required intent. Id. The Court adopted
    the government’s view because, unlike extortion or burglary, things like “manufacturing” or
    “distributing” are not “generic” offenses with well-established elements. Id. at 785. The Court
    added that the statute’s use of the verb “involve” (instead of “is”) more naturally called for a
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    conduct-based approach than a generic-offense approach. Id. When making this latter point, the
    Court noted that both parties (including the government) agreed that “involve” narrowly means
    “necessarily requir[e]” (not “relate to”). Id. (citation omitted). The government thus abandoned
    in Shular the broad definition of “involve” it asked our court to adopt in Eason.
    II
    Which path should we choose now?                 Should we continue to apply Eason’s broad
    definition (“relate to”)? Or should we switch to Shular’s narrow definition (“necessarily entail”
    or “necessarily require”)? This question raises tricky procedural and substantive questions.
    A
    Two factors suggest that we should stick with Eason’s broad reading. First, precedential
    concerns point that way. We generally must follow a published precedent like Eason (whether
    right or wrong) until the Supreme Court or our en banc court jettisons it. See Salmi v. Sec’y of
    Health & Hum. Servs., 
    774 F.2d 685
    , 689 (6th Cir. 1985). And it is not obvious to me that
    Shular squarely confronted the key issue in this case, let alone rejected the broad definition of
    “involve” in favor of the narrow one. Nothing in Shular’s bottom-line holding—that courts
    should decide whether a state crime is a “serious drug offense” using a conduct-based approach,
    not a generic-offense approach—seems to have turned on this subtle difference in the meaning of
    “involve.” 140 S. Ct. at 785. Shular’s chosen conduct-based approach makes sense whether that
    word means “relate to” or “require.” Its references to the narrower definition thus do not appear
    critical to the question presented or the ultimate result.
    This distinction also might not have mattered to the outcome in Kawashima v. Holder,
    
    565 U.S. 478
     (2012). That case concerned a statute that required a court to determine whether a
    prior crime “involv[ed] fraud or deceit.” See 
    id. at 485
    . The Court noted in one sentence that
    this phrase covered “offenses with elements that necessarily entail fraudulent or deceitful
    conduct.” 
    Id.
     at 483–84. It went on to hold that the specific crimes at issue necessarily entailed
    deceit even if they did not include deceit as a formal element. 
    Id.
     at 484–85. The Court thus did
    not need to address whether “involve” could also reach crimes that were merely related to deceit.
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    Given the ultimate holdings of these cases, I doubt that the Court itself would feel bound
    by Shular’s references to the “necessarily entails” or “necessarily requires” test if it addresses
    this case’s question about the meaning of “involving.” After all, the Court has repeatedly said
    that it does not “dissect” every sentence of its opinions as if they were enacted statutes that have
    passed through both houses of Congress. St. Mary’s Honor Ctr. v. Hicks, 
    509 U.S. 502
    , 515
    (1993); see Borden v. United States, 
    141 S. Ct. 1817
    , 1833 n.9 (2021) (plurality opinion); Cent.
    Green Co. v. United States, 
    531 U.S. 425
    , 431 (2001); Reiter v. Sonotone Corp., 
    442 U.S. 330
    ,
    341 (1979). Still, I agree that Shular’s statements (even if dicta) cast enough doubt on Eason’s
    reading to allow us to reassess that decision—as the majority opinion explains when discussing
    our caselaw on the requirement to follow prior precedent. See Ellmann v. Baker (In re Baker),
    
    791 F.3d 677
    , 682–83 (6th Cir. 2015); cf. Gearlds v. Entergy Servs., Inc., 
    709 F.3d 448
    , 452 (5th
    Cir. 2013); Carpenters Loc. Union No. 26 v. U.S. Fid. & Guar. Co., 
    215 F.3d 136
    , 141–42 (1st
    Cir. 2000).
    Second, besides the lack of an unambiguous Supreme Court holding giving the word
    “involve” a narrow construction, a practical concern favors Eason’s broader reading. Eason was
    no outlier. If we depart from that decision, we depart from nearly every other court in the
    country—at least at the present time. Before Shular, a near-unanimous judicial consensus
    interpreted “involve” broadly to mean “related to” or “connected with.” See Eason, 919 F.3d at
    390–91. These courts thus held that many similar inchoate offenses qualified as “serious drug
    offenses” even though a defendant could commit them without undertaking any manufacturing
    or distributing. See, e.g., United States v. McKenney, 
    450 F.3d 39
    , 42–45 (1st Cir. 2006) (drug
    conspiracy); United States v. King, 
    325 F.3d 110
    , 112–15 (2d Cir. 2003) (attempted drug crime);
    United States v. Daniels, 
    915 F.3d 148
    , 152–67 (3d Cir. 2019) (attempted drug crime); United
    States v. Winbush, 
    407 F.3d 703
    , 705–08 (5th Cir. 2005) (attempted drug crime); United States v.
    Williams, 
    931 F.3d 570
    , 575–76 (7th Cir. 2019) (financing drug manufacturing or delivery);
    United States v. Coleman, 
    700 F.3d 329
    , 339 (8th Cir. 2012) (attempted drug crime); United
    States v. Alexander, 
    331 F.3d 116
    , 131 (D.C. Cir. 2003) (attempted drug crime). (The Fourth
    Circuit reached a similar result for similar statutory language. See United States v. James, 
    834 F.2d 92
    , 93 (4th Cir. 1987).)
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    As the majority opinion rightly notes, other courts have begun to cite Shular’s
    “necessarily require” or “necessarily entail” test when discussing the word “involve” in the
    statutory definition of “serious drug offense” or similar definitions. See, e.g., United States v.
    Sandoval, 
    6 F.4th 63
    , 108–09 (1st Cir. 2021); United States v. Smith, 
    983 F.3d 1213
    , 1223 (11th
    Cir. 2020); United States v. Ruth, 
    966 F.3d 642
    , 647 (7th Cir. 2020). As far as I am aware,
    however, no circuit court has held that a crime that the court previously found covered (under its
    old “related to” test) no longer counts (under a new “necessarily entails” test). Cf. United States
    v. Prentice, 
    956 F.3d 295
    , 299–300 (5th Cir. 2020); United States v. Miles, 
    2021 WL 3077302
    , at
    *2 (N.D. Fla. July 21, 2021). We thus would break significant new ground by relying on Shular
    to depart from Eason.
    B
    In my mind, though, two factors point the other way. First, the government has not
    argued that Eason’s “related to” test binds us as a precedential matter. It instead continues to
    embrace Shular’s narrow reading (while suggesting that this reading covers the Kentucky crime
    at issue in this case). The government’s decision to accept the narrow reading may (or may not)
    be intentional. Recall that, unlike in Eason, it advocated for the narrow definition in Shular,
    asserting that “involve” means to “include (something) as a necessary part or result.” Brief for
    the United States at 13, Shular, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (No. 18-6662), 
    2019 WL 6324154
     (quoting New
    Oxford Dictionary of English 962 (2001)). The government in Shular may well have departed
    from its prior “related to” test because the defendant claimed that this test was unworkable. See
    Brief for Petitioner at 24–29, Shular, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (No. 18-6662), 
    2019 WL 4689150
    .
    According to the government, the “necessarily entails” test avoids these administrative
    headaches by adopting a “straightforward inquiry” that courts can easily apply. Transcript of
    Oral Argument at 46, Shular, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (No. 18-6662), 
    2020 WL 354451
    .
    I agree that the narrow definition leads to an easy-to-apply test. But this test is easy to
    apply precisely because it excludes inchoate crimes like the offenses at issue in this case and
    Eason. Under the “necessarily entails” or “necessarily requires” framework, a court need only
    ask whether a crime will always include manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with intent to
    manufacture or distribute in order for a defendant to commit it. If the crime could be completed
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    without any of those activities occurring, the crime does not “necessarily entail” or “necessarily
    require” the activities (even if it is related to them). And here, the majority opinion persuasively
    explains why a defendant could complete the crime of possessing an ingredient with intent to
    produce methamphetamine without anyone engaging in anything resembling “manufacturing.”
    I simply do not understand the government’s contrary argument that the difference
    between the two definitions does not matter in this case.          Its view that an offense can
    “necessarily require” certain conduct even if the crime can be accomplished without that conduct
    conflicts with the ordinary English meaning of those words. It also resurrects the workability
    concerns that the government seemingly sought to eliminate by abandoning Eason’s “related to”
    test in Shular.     I have no idea what crimes would (or would not) “necessarily entail”
    manufacturing under the government’s view. The pre-Shular caselaw that treated inchoate drug
    offenses as “serious drug offenses” confirms that this distinction matters. These decisions do not
    suggest that these inchoate offenses would involve manufacturing or distributing under a narrow
    definition of “involve.” Rather, they treated such unfinished crimes as “serious drug offenses”
    by adopting the broad “related to” test that the government previously espoused. See, e.g.,
    Daniels, 915 F.3d at 155; Winbush, 
    407 F.3d at 707
    ; King, 
    325 F.3d at
    113–14. In one of these
    cases, a defendant even quoted the narrow definition to argue that a state drug conspiracy was
    not a serious drug offense. See McKenney, 
    450 F.3d at
    42–43. The First Circuit did not hold
    that the “narrow definition” would cover the conspiracy. 
    Id. at 43
    . It instead adopted the broad
    definition that did cover it. 
    Id.
    In short, the difference between the definitions is critical. Yet the government does not
    treat Shular’s narrow definition as dicta or Eason’s broad definition as binding. I suppose we
    could find that Eason continues to bind us on our own initiative because litigants cannot force us
    to create bad law through their agreements in the lawsuit. See Swift & Co. v. Hocking Valley Ry.
    Co., 
    243 U.S. 281
    , 289 (1917); Weston v. Wash. Metro. Area Transit Auth., 
    78 F.3d 682
    , 685
    (D.C. Cir. 1996); Brown v. United States, 
    868 F.2d 859
    , 864 (6th Cir. 1989); cf. Terry v. United
    States, 
    141 S. Ct. 1858
    , 1862 (2021). Nevertheless, that neither party treats Eason’s broad
    reading as the binding test undermines any claim that we must continue to follow it after Shular.
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    Second, Shular’s narrow reading strikes me as the better one. The statutory definition of
    “serious drug offense” dates to the Career Criminals Amendment Act of 1986. Pub. L. No. 99-
    570, § 1402(b), 
    100 Stat. 3207
    , 3207-39 to 3207-40. Then, as now, “involve” had a range of
    meanings. Every dictionary that I have reviewed lists a definition like the following: “to include
    as a necessary circumstance, condition, or consequence; imply; entail[.]”            Random House
    Dictionary of the English Language 1005 (2d ed. 1987); see also Oxford Dictionary of English
    912 (2d ed. 2003); 8 Oxford English Dictionary 57 (2d ed. 1989); Webster’s Third New
    International Dictionary 1191 (1986); American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language
    690 (1969); Webster’s New International Dictionary of the English Language 1307 (2d ed.
    1944). This definition might have grown out of the word’s original meaning: to “envelop” or
    “wrap up.” See 8 Oxford English Dictionary, supra, at 57. When “involve” is used in this sense,
    the subject that precedes the word typically contains or requires the direct object that comes after
    it. It would apply, for instance, if an employer told a prospective employee that “the job would
    involve travel.” American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language 921 (4th ed. 2000). The
    employee likely would think that the job requires travel (like the position of a traveling
    salesperson), not that the job relates to travel (like the position of an airport baggage handler).
    Other times, “involve” means “implicate.” When used to mean “implicate,” the word
    usually conveys that a person has a “close, often entangling, connection with something” that is
    typically unsavory or criminal. Webster’s New International, supra, at 1307 (2d ed.). If, for
    example, a politician discussed “evidence that involved the governor in the scandal,” the
    politician would be describing evidence that connected the governor to the scandal.
    American Heritage, supra, at 921 (4th ed. 2000). When “involve” is used in this sense, the
    subject that precedes the word (“evidence”) typically connects a direct object (“governor”) to an
    indirect object (“scandal”).
    Some dictionaries also suggest that “involve” can mean “relate closely.” Webster’s
    Third, supra, at 1191; Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary 637 (1984). Webster’s Third
    lists as its lone example for this usage: “the problem is closely involved with the management of
    pastures.” Webster’s Third, supra, at 1191. It thus suggests that the phrasal verb “involved
    with” conveys this meaning (like the phrasal verb “relate to”). Cf. McGraw-Hill’s Dictionary of
    No. 20-5521                           United States v. Fields                              Page 41
    American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs 352, 554 (2005). Another dictionary ties this “relate to”
    meaning to another definition: “to relate to or affect” as in “the matter involves his honor.”
    Webster’s New World Dictionary 711 (3d college ed. 1988); cf. Random House, supra, at 1005
    (“to affect, as something within the scope of operation”).
    In sum, “involve” can mean anything from “include,” to “implicate,” to “relate to.” We
    thus must decide which usage an ordinary person would think best fits the statutory definition at
    issue here. See United States v. Hill, 
    963 F.3d 528
    , 532–33 (6th Cir. 2020). To recap, “serious
    drug offense” covers “an offense under State law, involving manufacturing, distributing, or
    possessing with intent to manufacture or distribute, a controlled substance” (as long as the
    offense has at least a 10-year maximum sentence). 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(A)(ii). This text, it
    seems to me, signals the first meaning—“to include as a necessary circumstance, condition, or
    consequence[.]” Random House, supra, at 1005. That is because “involving” connects an
    intangible subject (“offense”) with active objects (“manufacturing, distributing, or possessing
    with intent to manufacture or distribute”). This construction is typical when “involve” seeks to
    convey that one thing contains another. Indeed, one dictionary even lists a directly on-point
    example for this definition: “a bill proposing harsher penalties for crimes involving firearms and
    drugs.” Oxford Dictionary of English, supra, at 912.
    Admittedly, the First Circuit—the only pre-Shular circuit to grapple with these differing
    definitions—thought that “connect closely” or “relate closely” was the better reading.
    McKenney, 
    450 F.3d at 43
     (citations omitted). I do not see why. The full definition with
    “connect closely” provides: “[t]o connect closely and often incriminatingly; implicate.”
    American Heritage, supra, at 921 (4th ed. 2000). Yet the statute does not seek to convey that a
    state offense is incriminatingly connected to the “manufacturing” or “distributing” of drugs—as
    if this inanimate offense (like a person) could commit the crimes. The statute identifies the
    conduct that the offense must contain (i.e., “include”), not the conduct that the offense must have
    participated in (i.e., “implicate”). As noted, moreover, when “involve” means “implicate” or
    “connect,” an inanimate subject (like “evidence”) typically connects one thing (like “governor”)
    with something else (like “scandal”). See id. This construction is a poor fit for this statute.
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    That leaves “relate to.” I have found only a few dictionaries, including Webster’s Third
    and Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate (an offshoot), that list this definition for “involve.” Yet the
    Supreme Court has told us to use Webster’s Third “cautiously” given its “frequent inclusion of
    doubtful, slipshod meanings[.]”      Antonin Scalia & Bryan A. Garner, Reading Law: The
    Interpretation of Legal Texts 422 & n.21 (2012); see MCI Telecomms. Corp. v. Am. Tel. & Tel.
    Co., 
    512 U.S. 218
    , 228 n.3 (1994). In addition, the statute does not use the phrasal-verb
    construction (“involved with”) that Webster’s Third associates with this usage. Webster’s Third,
    supra, at 1191.    Although another dictionary ties this “relate to” definition with “affect,”
    Webster’s New World, supra, at 711, the statute also does not suggest that a state offense must
    have an effect on manufacturing or distributing. The statute instead conveys a meaning closer to
    this dictionary’s example for “include” (“a project involving years of work”) than its example for
    “relate to or affect” (“the matter involves his honor”). Id.
    Even if some lingering ambiguity existed, though, other contextual clues point to a
    narrow reading. For starters, the broad definition comes with a superfluity downside. Congress
    opted to identify three specific types of covered drug activities in the statutory definition:
    manufacturing, distributing, and possessing with intent to manufacture or distribute. Yet the
    third activity serves no purpose under a broad “related to” definition of “involving.” I, for
    example, would think that possessing a drug (say, cocaine) with an intent to manufacture another
    drug (say, crack cocaine) “relates to” manufacturing—in the same way that purchasing a drug
    ingredient relates to manufacturing. See Eason, 919 F.3d at 391–92. Similarly, possessing a
    drug with an intent to distribute it also “relates to” distribution—as the Fourth Circuit essentially
    held in a related context. See James, 
    834 F.2d at 93
    . If “involve” means “relate to,” Congress
    had no reason to include this possession activity in the statute. The narrow definition, by
    contrast, gives each of the three objects independent work to do. See Clark v. Rameker, 
    573 U.S. 122
    , 130–31 (2014); see also United States v. Colon, 
    268 F.3d 367
    , 376–77 (6th Cir. 2001).
    To be sure, when Congress seeks to ensure wide coverage by using broad language, its
    statutes will often contain some amount of redundancy. See Conn. Nat’l Bank v. Germain, 
    503 U.S. 249
    , 253–54 (1992); cf. TMW Enters., Inc. v. Fed. Ins. Co., 
    619 F.3d 574
    , 577–78 (6th Cir.
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    2010). And we must respect Congress’s choice if its unambiguous language shows that it opted
    for this belt-and-suspenders approach. See Scalia & Garner, 
    supra,
     at 176–77.
    But Congress does not appear to me to have opted for that approach here. If it sought to
    broadly cover any state drug crime related to manufacturing or distributing, it could have simply
    said “relating to.” Congress has not been shy about using that phrase. In the same section as the
    definition of “serious drug offense,” it prohibited individuals from traveling interstate to buy a
    gun “with the intent to engage in conduct which” “violates any State law relating to any
    controlled substance[.]” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (g)(3); see also 
    id.
     § 924(k)(2). It also defined “felony
    drug offense” (another phrase used to increase sentences, see, e.g., 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (b)(1)(C)) to
    mean “an offense . . . under any law of . . . a State . . . that prohibits or restricts conduct relating
    to” various drugs. 
    21 U.S.C. § 802
    (44); see United States v. Spikes, 
    158 F.3d 913
    , 932 (6th Cir.
    1998).
    Perhaps most tellingly, the very Act that codified the “serious drug offense” definition
    evinces a clear distinction between “relating to” and “involving.” For one thing, this Act
    elsewhere imposed stiffer sentences for individuals who had prior felony convictions under a
    “law of a State . . . relating to narcotic drugs[.]” Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, Pub. L. No. 99-
    570, § 1002, 
    100 Stat. 3207
    , 3207-3 to 3207-4 (emphasis added). (Congress has since amended
    this provision.   See 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (b)(1)(A), (B).)         If Congress did not intend different
    meanings, why would it use “relating to” in some places yet switch to “involving” for the
    “serious drug offense” definition? Cf. Russello v. United States, 
    464 U.S. 16
    , 23 (1983).
    For another thing, the Act uses “involve” or “involving” elsewhere to mean “include,”
    not “relate to.” The unconstitutional “residual clause” in the nearby “violent felony” definition
    covers a crime that “otherwise involves conduct that presents a serious potential risk of physical
    injury to another.” § 1402(b), 100 Stat. at 3207-40 (codified at 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii)),
    declared unconstitutional by Johnson v. United States, 
    576 U.S. 591
    , 606 (2015). Similarly, the
    Act adopted a staggered sentencing scheme that ties an offense’s sentence to the quantity of
    drugs involved. So, for example, an offense “involving” “1 kilogram or more” of heroin calls for
    a 10-year minimum sentence. § 1002, 100 Stat. at 3207-2 (codified as amended at 
    21 U.S.C. § 841
    (b)(1)(A)). Just as these other uses of the word “involve” require an offense to include (not
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    be related to) certain dangerous conduct or drug amounts, so too the definition of “serious drug
    offense” requires a state offense to include (not be related to) manufacturing, distributing, or
    possessing with the intent to manufacture or distribute.
    That said, I readily acknowledge that Congress could have used language requiring an
    even closer connection between a state drug offense and the manufacture or distribution of drugs.
    The Act, for example, imposed harsher sentences for an offense that “is burglary” or that “has as
    an element” the use of force.         § 1402(b), 100 Stat. at 3207-40 (codified at 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(i)–(ii)) (emphases added). As the First Circuit noted, the verb “involve” covers
    more conduct than these more precise words. McKenney, 
    450 F.3d at 43
    . For example, the
    offense of wearing body armor while distributing drugs might not “be” the offense of drug
    distribution, but it still could qualify as a serious drug offense because it necessarily entails
    (“involves”) that distribution. Cf. United States v. Gibbs, 
    656 F.3d 180
    , 187–89 (3d Cir. 2011).
    And even if a crime does not have drug manufacturing as a “formal element[],” it could still
    qualify as a serious drug offense if that conduct must occur whenever anybody commits the
    crime. Kawashima, 
    565 U.S. at
    483–84; cf. Borden, 141 S. Ct. at 1822 (plurality opinion). But I
    fail to see why these other phrases help answer whether “involve” should mean “relate to” or
    “necessarily entail.” Just because “involve” has a broader reach than “is” does not make it as
    expansive as “relate to.”
    Lastly, even if the reader is still not convinced, remember that we are interpreting a
    criminal statute.   The rule of lenity thus applies when choosing between these differing
    definitions of the word “involve.” See Jones v. United States, 
    529 U.S. 848
    , 858 (2000); cf.
    Shular, 140 S. Ct. at 787–89 (Kavanaugh, J., concurring). I would think that I have said enough
    to show that the statute at least remains ambiguous after exhausting all of the traditional tools of
    interpretation. This potential tie breaker thus points in the direction of the narrow definition too.
    * * *
    To sum up, I am hesitant to depart from a published precedent like Eason and from the
    current approach in many other courts based on Supreme Court reasoning that the Court may
    later treat as dicta. At the same time, I do think Shular allows us to reexamine Eason’s
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    definition, especially considering that the federal government has not defended that definition
    here. And, perhaps most notably, the statutory context and structure lead me to conclude that
    Shular’s narrow reading of “involving” best fits the statutory definition of “serious drug
    offense.” For these reasons, along with those in Judge White’s majority opinion, I concur.
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    CONCURRING IN PART AND DISSENTING IN PART
    _____________________________________________________
    ROGERS, Circuit Judge, concurring and dissenting in part. I concur in all but Part IV.A
    of the majority opinion. The published holding of this court in United States v. Eason, 
    919 F.3d 385
     (6th Cir. 2019), flatly precludes the adoption of a “necessarily requires” standard, and
    incidental language in a Supreme Court opinion resolving a very different issue is not sufficient
    to overrule our precedent. While such language might be relevant or even persuasive in the
    absence of binding published precedent of our court, or in arguments for en banc review or
    certiorari to the Supreme Court, it is not sufficient to overrule our precedent.
    We are required to follow the clear holding in Eason notwithstanding Shular v. United
    States, 
    140 S. Ct. 779
     (2020). Formally speaking, any language in Shular appearing to adopt the
    “necessarily requires” standard is, at most, dictum rather than holding. See 
    id. at 784-86
    . More
    importantly, though, a careful reading of the Shular opinion does not reflect that the Court even
    adopted that standard.
    First, the issue in Shular was whether, as the offender argued, finding a “serious drug
    offense” required a generic-offense analysis. The Shular Court ruled in favor of the government
    on this issue, and certainly would have done the same thing if it had assumed a more generous
    reading of “involves” than the “necessarily entail” standard. Accordingly, the “necessarily
    entail” standard was simply not necessary to its affirmance of the court of appeals. Formally
    speaking, in other words, any statement by the Court that “involves” cannot be broader than
    “necessarily entail,” to the detriment of the government, cannot be a holding in a case where the
    government prevailed.
    Second, a careful reading shows that Justice Ginsburg was not deciding the “necessarily
    entail” issue, regardless of whether such a decision would have been dictum or holding. The
    Court used the Kawashima case as an “example” to show that the Court did not always require a
    generic-offense analysis. See 
    id.
     at 783 (citing Kawashima v. Holder, 
    565 U.S. 478
     (2012)). In
    describing the dispute before it, the Court described the Government’s view as that “a court
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    should apply ‘the Kawashima categorical approach,’” which asks “whether the state offense’s
    elements ‘necessarily entail one of the types of conduct’ identified in § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii).” Id. at
    784 (emphasis in original).
    But the Court went on in the next paragraph to describe the two positions more crisply as
    follows:
    This methodological dispute is occasioned by an interpretive disagreement over
    § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii)’s reference to “manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with
    intent to manufacture or distribute, a controlled substance.” Those terms, in the
    Government’s view, describe conduct a court can compare directly against the
    state crime’s elements. Shular sees them instead as offenses whose elements a
    court must first expound.
    Id. at 785. This description is the one that immediately precedes the Court’s statement that “[t]he
    Government’s reading, we are convinced, correctly interprets the statutory text and context.” Id.
    In the following sentence, the Court concluded that § 924(e)(2)(A)(ii) “refers to conduct.” Id. In
    other words, the statement that the Government’s reading “correctly interprets the statutory text
    and context” refers to the Court’s holding that the statute requires a conduct-focused, rather than
    a generic-offense, approach. The “correctly interprets” statement thus cannot be read to apply to
    the “necessarily entail” language without simply disregarding the intervening paragraph that the
    Court was obviously referring to.
    The subsequent paragraphs confirm this. The Court’s primary argument was that words
    like “manufacturing” and “distributing” were unlikely names for generic offenses. This
    argument says nothing about the meaning of “involves.” The Court’s second argument was that
    the word “involving” “suggests that the descriptive terms immediately following the word . . .
    identify conduct.” Id. The Court reasoned that in contrast, the use of the word “is” instead of
    “involving” would have been used to refer to crimes. In making this argument, the Court did say
    the “[t]he parties agree that ‘involve’ means ‘necessarily require[d],’” id., but this was only to
    support the idea that the words addressed conduct. It is true that the fact that the parties agreed
    does not by itself make a statement dictum, but in the context of this case it certainly shows that
    the language used by the Court was not meant to reject an argument (that “involve” means more
    than “necessarily requires”) when that was not an argument before it.
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    So what we have is a clear holding in a published opinion of our court that adopts a broad
    interpretation of “involving” in the statute, and an intervening opinion of the Supreme Court that
    does not hold, or even decide, or even make an analysis that could be used to support, the
    contrary. We are bound to follow our precedent, no matter how thoughtful the arguments for
    coming to a different conclusion are, in the absence of en banc review or an intervening Supreme
    Court decision adopting a different rule.
    I do not address subparts 2-4 of Part IV.A of the majority’s opinion, which proceed to
    apply the “necessarily entail” test. The majority appears to accept that affirmance would be
    required on this issue if the Eason test instead were applied.