Rufino A. Estrada-Martinez v. Loretta E. Lynch , 809 F.3d 886 ( 2015 )


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  •                               In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 15-1139
    RUFINO ANTONIO ESTRADA-MARTINEZ,
    Petitioner,
    v.
    LORETTA E. LYNCH, ATTORNEY GENERAL                OF THE   UNITED
    STATES,
    Respondent.
    ____________________
    Petition for Review of an Order of
    the Board of Immigration Appeals.
    No. A073-223-323
    ____________________
    ARGUED SEPTEMBER 24, 2015 — DECIDED DECEMBER 31, 2015
    Before MANION, ROVNER, and HAMILTON, Circuit Judges.
    HAMILTON, Circuit Judge. Petitioner Rufino Antonio Es-
    trada-Martinez faces removal to Honduras, a country that he
    fled in 1994 after police there detained and tortured him. An
    immigration judge granted Estrada relief from removal,
    finding that he will more likely than not face torture if he is
    removed to Honduras. The Board of Immigration Appeals
    disagreed regarding the likelihood that Estrada will be tor-
    2                                                   No. 15-1139
    tured, so it reversed the judge’s grant of relief. Estrada has
    petitioned for review. He claims both eligibility for “with-
    holding of removal” under the Immigration and Nationality
    Act (“the Act”) and the United Nations Convention Against
    Torture (“the Convention”) and eligibility for “deferral of
    removal” under only the Convention.
    Estrada is not eligible for withholding of removal be-
    cause he was convicted in an Illinois state court of statutory
    rape in 1996, and the Board has characterized his conviction
    as “particularly serious.” Committing a crime that the Attor-
    ney General deems “particularly serious” bars withholding
    of removal under the Act and the Convention. We do not
    have jurisdiction to review that discretionary judgment un-
    less a petitioner presents a legal or constitutional question,
    and Estrada’s attempt to frame his challenge to the “particu-
    larly serious crime” determination as a legal issue is not per-
    suasive.
    Estrada may well be eligible, however, for deferral of re-
    moval under the Convention. As noted, the immigration
    judge found it more likely than not that Estrada will be tor-
    tured if he is removed to Honduras. The Board was required
    to review that factual finding only for clear error, not de novo.
    8 C.F.R. § 1003.1(d)(3)(i); Matter of Z-Z-O-, 26 I. & N. Dec.
    586, 590 (BIA 2015). In this case the Board failed to apply the
    clear error standard of review, so we reverse the Board with
    respect to Estrada’s request for deferral of removal. We re-
    mand for reconsideration of the immigration judge’s deci-
    sion under the correct standard of review.
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    I. The Legal Framework
    A brief explanation of the relevant statutes and regula-
    tions will be helpful before we lay out the facts of Estrada’s
    case. Estrada seeks relief from removal under three provi-
    sions of law: (1) withholding of removal under the Act,
    8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(A); (2) withholding of removal under
    the Convention, 8 C.F.R. § 1208.16(c); and (3) deferral of re-
    moval under the Convention, 8 C.F.R. § 1208.17(a).
    Commission of a crime that the Attorney General finds to
    be “particularly serious” bars withholding of removal under
    both the Act and the Convention. 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(B)(ii);
    8 C.F.R. § 1208.16(d)(2). Aggravated felonies punished by at
    least five years of imprisonment are automatically “particu-
    larly serious.” The Attorney General also has authority to
    determine that other criminal convictions are “particularly
    serious.” 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(B). In finding that a crime is
    “particularly serious,” immigration authorities may examine
    “the nature of the conviction, the type of sentence imposed,
    and the circumstances and underlying facts of the convic-
    tion.” In re N-A-M-, 24 I. & N. Dec. 336, 342 (BIA 2007). In
    some cases, however, the Board has instead “focused exclu-
    sively on the elements of the offense, i.e., the nature of the
    crime.” 
    Id. Even where
    an unauthorized immigrant has committed a
    “particularly serious crime,” however, deferral of removal
    under the Convention remains available if he will “more
    likely than not” be tortured if removed to the particular
    country. 8 C.F.R. §§ 1208.16(c)(4) & 1208.17(a), In making this
    determination, immigration authorities must consider all
    relevant evidence including: (1) “Evidence of past torture
    inflicted upon the applicant;” (2) “Evidence that the appli-
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    cant could relocate to a part of the country of removal where
    he or she is not likely to be tortured;” (3) “Evidence of gross,
    flagrant or mass violations of human rights within the coun-
    try of removal,” and (4) “Other relevant information regard-
    ing conditions in the country of removal.” 
    Id., §§ 1208.16(c)(3)
    & 1208.17(a).
    II. Factual Background
    In 1993, Estrada led a peasant land takeover in Hondu-
    ras. The land that he and his comrades occupied belonged to
    a retired military colonel, Avilio Martinez. Honduran police
    arrested Estrada and thirteen of his comrades, holding Es-
    trada for two months. During that time, Estrada was tor-
    tured. His jailers beat him severely, sometimes to the point of
    unconsciousness. They suffocated him by putting a bag over
    his head, pushed his head under water to simulate drown-
    ing, subjected him to electric shocks, and threatened the lives
    of his family, including his two young children.
    Shortly after his release from police detention and tor-
    ture, a friend warned Estrada about a suspicious vehicle near
    Estrada’s home, and his home was ransacked while he was
    away. Fearing for his safety, Estrada at first relocated within
    Honduras but then fled to Mexico and later to the United
    States. The United States granted him asylum in 1995.
    Estrada settled in Chicago. He initially found work at a
    window and door company, and since 2005 he has worked
    as a flooring installer. He received services, including psy-
    chological care and help transitioning to life in the United
    States, from the Heartland Alliance, an organization dedicat-
    ed to helping individuals recovering from torture.
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    In 1996, however, Estrada was charged with statutory
    rape for sexual acts with a sixteen-year-old girl with whom
    he worked at a restaurant. He was thirty-three years old at
    the time, and their relationship continued over a period of
    weeks or months. On the advice of his attorney, Estrada pled
    guilty. He was unaware of the potential immigration conse-
    quences of his plea. The judge sentenced Estrada to only
    four years of probation and also required him to register as a
    sex offender for ten years. Estrada successfully completed
    this sentence.
    In December 2006, however, Estrada was ordered re-
    moved from the United States due to his conviction. Upon
    his arrival in Honduras in 2007, police at the airport detained
    him, beat him, found some paperwork referring to his con-
    viction, and threatened to create a file on him if he did not
    pay them. Estrada paid the extortion, and the police freed
    him. He spent a week in the city where his parents lived,
    then returned illegally to the United States because he con-
    tinued to fear for his safety in Honduras.
    Estrada has not heard directly from the retired Colonel
    Martinez since leaving Honduras in 1994, but in 2006 he re-
    ceived a letter from his father telling him that Martinez had
    continued to make threats against him and would kill him if
    he returned to Honduras. A 2014 letter from one of Estrada’s
    comrades in the land invasion also reported that Martinez
    was still looking for Estrada. Estrada’s wife and children re-
    mained in Honduras safely for three or four years after Es-
    trada fled, but they have since come to the United States. His
    parents remain in Honduras. Estrada’s comrades in the land
    invasion continue to farm the land they invaded, apparently
    without trouble. Estrada believes that if he returns to Hon-
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    duras he will be specially targeted because he was the leader
    of the land invasion.
    In 2013, U.S. immigration agents arrested Estrada. The
    government reinstated his earlier order of removal, but Es-
    trada expressed a fear that he will be tortured if he is re-
    moved to Honduras. These proceedings for withholding of
    removal under the Act and the Convention and deferral of
    removal under the Convention followed.
    In 2014, an immigration judge granted Estrada relief
    from removal. She held that Estrada’s statutory rape convic-
    tion was not “particularly serious,” citing his lenient sen-
    tence and his testimony that he believed his victim was
    eighteen years old. The judge also found that Estrada was
    eligible for withholding of removal under the Act and the
    Convention because he established that it is more likely than
    not that he will be tortured if he is removed to Honduras.
    The judge credited Estrada’s testimony regarding his treat-
    ment in Honduras. She relied on his past torture, his contin-
    ued fear of arrest and torture after he relocated within Hon-
    duras in 1993 and 1994, the 2006 letter indicating that Mar-
    tinez had made continued threats against Estrada, Martinez’s
    continuing connections to the Honduran police and military,
    and Estrada’s 2007 arrest, beating, and extortion at the air-
    port in Honduras.
    The judge also referred to U.S. State Department and
    United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees reports on
    political violence in Honduras.1 She noted that Honduras
    1 The record contains Human Rights Watch reports on Honduras
    that are marked with the High Commissioner’s logo but are not official
    High Commissioner reports. The record does not appear to contain offi-
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    continues to suffer from violence surrounding peasant land
    disputes. These disputes can involve detention, torture, and
    even killing of peasant leaders and human rights activists.
    The police are sometimes involved in or complicit with this
    violence. Police detainees in Honduras are sometimes tor-
    tured and denied due process of law.
    The Board of Immigration Appeals reversed the judge’s
    decision both as to the “particularly serious crime” determi-
    nation and the likelihood that Estrada will be tortured if he
    returned to Honduras. With regard to the likelihood of tor-
    ture, the Board labeled only one of the judge’s specific factu-
    al findings clearly erroneous: the finding that Estrada was
    not free from ongoing torture after he relocated within Hon-
    duras in 1993 and 1994 immediately after he was released
    from custody and torture. After identifying this one instance
    of clear factual error, the Board proceeded to reweigh the ev-
    idence considered by the judge. The Board said it was “not
    persuaded” that Estrada will likely be tortured if he is re-
    moved to Honduras. It noted that Estrada has not received
    any threats directly from Martinez since coming to the Unit-
    ed States and that the other peasant activists appear to have
    been able to remain on the land safely. With regard to the
    “particularly serious crime” determination, the Board con-
    sidered Estrada’s sentence and noted that statutory rape in-
    volves an inherent risk of exploitation of minors. It consid-
    ered but declined to give weight to Estrada’s victim’s age and
    Estrada’s claimed mistake about her age. Estrada then filed
    this petition for judicial review.
    cial High Commissioner reports. It is possible that the immigration judge
    confused these Human Rights Watch reports with official High Commis-
    sioner reports.
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    III. Jurisdictional Limits
    We must first address the jurisdictional limits of judicial
    review under the Immigration and Nationality Act. First,
    8 U.S.C. § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) prohibits courts of appeals from
    reviewing decisions assigned by statute to the discretion of
    the Attorney General or Secretary of Homeland Security. See
    Kucana v. Holder, 
    558 U.S. 233
    , 237 (2010). Second,
    § 1252(a)(2)(C) prohibits review of “any final order of re-
    moval” where removability is based on, among other things,
    the commission of an aggravated felony. Notwithstanding
    these provisions, however, § 1252(a)(2)(D) permits the re-
    view of “constitutional claims or questions of law.” There is
    some disagreement among the circuits on the effects of these
    provisions, but we follow this circuit’s precedents.
    It is settled in this circuit that § 1252(a)(2)(C) does not
    prohibit our review of orders denying deferral of removal
    under the Convention. Lenjinac v. Holder, 
    780 F.3d 852
    , 855
    (7th Cir. 2015) (noting that “deferral of removal is not a final
    remedy and therefore the [Act] does not bar judicial re-
    view”); Issaq v. Holder, 
    617 F.3d 962
    , 970 (7th Cir. 2010) (stat-
    ing that § 1252(a)(2)(C) does not bar our review of denial of
    deferral of removal under the Convention). Deferral of re-
    moval is “like an injunction” and “can be final enough to
    permit judicial review, but at the same time not be the kind
    of ‘final’ order covered by § 1252(a)(2)(C).” Wanjiru v. Holder,
    
    705 F.3d 258
    , 264 (7th Cir. 2013); contra, e.g., Ortiz-Franco v.
    Holder, 
    782 F.3d 81
    , 86–87 (2d Cir. 2015) (listing precedents),
    petition for cert. filed (U.S. Sept. 23, 2015) (No. 15-362). Sec-
    tion 1252(a)(2)(C) does not prohibit our review of the Board’s
    decision to deny Estrada deferral of removal. And in any
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    case, § 1252(a)(2)(D) permits us to review constitutional
    claims and questions of law.
    Under our circuit’s precedent, however, § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii)
    prohibits our review of the Board’s discretionary determina-
    tion that Estrada’s statutory rape conviction is a “particularly
    serious crime,” except for legal and constitutional questions
    allowed under § 1252(a)(2)(D). Tunis v. Gonzales, 
    447 F.3d 547
    ,
    549 (7th Cir. 2006); see also Petrov v. Gonzales, 
    464 F.3d 800
    ,
    802 (7th Cir. 2006) (citing Tunis for proposition that “classifi-
    cation of a particular crime as ‘particularly serious’ often is
    discretionary” and thus § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) bars review).2 As
    noted above, the determination that a crime is “particularly
    serious” bars withholding of removal under both the Act
    and the Convention, but does not bar deferral of removal
    under the Convention. 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(B)(ii); 8 C.F.R.
    §§ 1208.16(d)(2) & 1208.17(a).
    The Attorney General argues that § 1252(a)(2)(C) rather
    than § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) precludes our review of the “particu-
    larly serious crime” determination. For this proposition, the
    2  Other circuits disagree that § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) precludes review of
    the Attorney General’s determination that a crime is “particularly seri-
    ous.” See, e.g., Arbid v. Holder, 
    700 F.3d 379
    , 383–84 (9th Cir. 2012) (rec-
    ognizing shift in Ninth Circuit precedent following Kucana); Berhane v.
    Holder, 
    606 F.3d 819
    , 821–23 (6th Cir. 2010) (citing Kucana for proposition
    that “[t]o ‘specify’ that a decision belongs to the Attorney General’s dis-
    cretion requires more than a hint”); Nethagani v. Mukasey, 
    532 F.3d 150
    ,
    154–55 (2d Cir. 2008); Alaka v. Attorney Gen. of the U.S., 
    456 F.3d 88
    , 95 (3d
    Cir. 2006), as amended Aug. 23, 2006 (“The jurisdiction-stripping lan-
    guage of § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) applies not to all decisions the Attorney Gen-
    eral is entitled to make, but to a narrower category of decisions where
    Congress has taken the additional step to specify that the sole authority
    for the action is in the Attorney General’s discretion.”).
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    Attorney General cites 
    Petrov, 464 F.3d at 801
    –02, and Ali v.
    Achim, 
    468 F.3d 462
    , 470 (7th Cir. 2006). Petrov, however, stat-
    ed that a discretionary determination that a crime is “partic-
    ularly serious” is unreviewable under § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii), not
    § 
    1252(a)(2)(C). 464 F.3d at 802
    . Ali did not specify between
    the two statutory 
    provisions. 468 F.3d at 465
    , 468–70. The
    plain language of § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii), precluding review of
    decisions left by statute to the “discretion” of the Attorney
    General or Secretary of Homeland Security, fits with the de-
    cision involved in characterizing a crime as “particularly se-
    rious,” which we have previously said “often is discretion-
    ary.” See 
    Petrov, 464 F.3d at 802
    . Thus, absent a legal or con-
    stitutional issue, § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) bars review of a discre-
    tionary decision that a crime is “particularly serious.” 8
    U.S.C. § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii) & (a)(2)(D).
    IV. This “Particularly Serious Crime” Determination
    Estrada tries to avoid this jurisdictional bar to our review
    of the Board’s “particularly serious crime” determination by
    framing his challenge as a legal issue. He argues that the
    Board made a legal error by adopting a categorical approach
    to deciding whether his statutory rape conviction was “par-
    ticularly serious.” According to Estrada, the Board failed to
    consider individual aspects of his conviction. He claims the
    Board “ignored” the fact that his victim was sixteen years
    old, erroneously discounted his mistake of age, and failed to
    recognize the significance of his sentence of probation rather
    than prison time. Although Estrada presents cogent argu-
    ments for reweighing the factors leading to the Board’s “par-
    ticularly serious crime” determination, his attempt to frame
    this argument as a legal error is not convincing. We lack ju-
    risdiction to review the Board’s weighing of these factors.
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    There are different threads of Board authority regarding
    how to determine that a crime is “particularly serious.” Es-
    trada is right that Board precedent identifies certain factors
    that may be considered in determining whether a crime is
    “particularly serious.” In re N-A-M-, 24 I. & N. Dec. 336, 342
    (BIA 2007); Matter of Frentescu, 18 I. & N. Dec. 244, 247 (BIA
    1982), superseded in part by statute as recognized in In re N-
    A-M-, 24 I. & N. Dec. at 339–40. The Board may use a case-
    by-case approach in this analysis. 
    Ali, 468 F.3d at 470
    (hold-
    ing that it is not legal error for the Board to apply a case-by-
    case analysis). However, the Board has also sometimes “fo-
    cused exclusively on the elements of the offense, i.e., the na-
    ture of the crime.” In re N-A-M-, 24 I. & N. Dec. at 342–43.
    Board precedent appears to support more than one method
    for determining whether a crime is “particularly serious.”
    Here, however, we do not agree with Estrada that the
    Board’s opinion used a categorical approach. Rather than ig-
    noring the age of the victim, the Board considered but de-
    clined to give weight to the fact that the victim was sixteen
    rather than a younger age. It said it did so because of the in-
    herent risk of exploitation in a sexual relationship between
    an adult and a minor. The Board also considered but de-
    clined to give “great weight” to Estrada’s claim, which the
    immigration judge credited, that he did not know his victim
    was a minor, noting that Estrada chose not to pursue a mis-
    take-of-age defense.3 The Board also considered the length of
    3 The Board’s decision not to give weight to the absence of a mistake-
    of-age defense was not legal error, despite Estrada’s choice to plead
    guilty. Estrada could have refused to plead guilty and defended based
    on mistake of age. Following this reasoning, the Board found that the
    immigration judge clearly erred “to the extent” that the judge found that
    Estrada’s claimed mistake of age did not conflict with the sentence he
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    Estrada’s probation and the requirement that he register as a
    sex offender. The requirement that Estrada register as a sex
    offender may have been mandatory under state law, but the
    length of probation was certainly a discretionary decision by
    the sentencing judge.
    This analysis by the Board was not an application of the
    categorical approach. The categorical approach would look
    only at the “statute defining the crime of conviction,” not the
    actual underlying conduct and circumstances. Moncrieffe v.
    Holder, 569 U.S. —, —, 
    133 S. Ct. 1678
    , 1684 (2013), quoting
    Gonzales v. Duenas-Alvarez, 
    549 U.S. 183
    , 186 (2007). Here, the
    Board considered the punishment imposed on Estrada—the
    length of the term of probation and the requirement that he
    register as a sex offender. The Board also analyzed but did
    not find persuasive the age of the victim and Estrada’s claim
    of ignorance as to the victim’s age. Whether or not we would
    agree in the first instance, it is clear that the Board’s analysis
    engaged with factors beyond just the statute defining the
    crime of conviction.
    Thus, Estrada does not succeed in framing his argument
    against the Board’s “particularly serious crime” determina-
    tion as legal error. To the extent that Estrada also argues that
    the Board’s decision incorrectly weighed the relevant factors,
    those arguments are beyond our jurisdiction. 8 U.S.C.
    § 1252(a)(2)(B)(ii).
    received. This logic is not compelling, but the question is beyond our
    jurisdiction.
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    V. Deferral of Removal
    Despite the determination that his statutory rape convic-
    tion was “particularly serious,” Estrada may still be eligible
    for deferral of removal under the Convention. 8 C.F.R.
    §§ 1208.16(c)(4) & 1208.17(a). The decisive factual issue in
    this analysis is whether it is “more likely than not” that the
    unauthorized immigrant will be tortured if removed to the
    country for which he or she seeks deferral of removal. 
    Id. The likelihood
    that Estrada will be tortured is a question
    of fact. Rosiles-Camarena v. Holder, 
    735 F.3d 534
    , 538–39 (7th
    Cir. 2013); Matter of Z-Z-O-, 26 I. & N. Dec. 586, 590 (BIA
    2015). Here, the immigration judge found that it is more like-
    ly than not that Estrada will be tortured if removed to Hon-
    duras. The Board reversed, stating that it was “not persuad-
    ed” of the likelihood of torture.
    The Board’s approach to this factual issue reflects a legal
    error. Under the Board’s own regulations, its review of an
    immigration judge’s finding of fact is limited. The Board
    must not find facts in the first instance; it must review the
    judge’s determinations of fact only for clear error. 8 C.F.R.
    § 1003.1(d)(3)(i); Matter of Z-Z-O-, 26 I. & N. Dec. at 590.4
    4 This limited review of fact-finding is distinct from that of other
    agencies that have not circumscribed through regulation their review of
    their administrative law judges’ fact-finding. For example, the Occupa-
    tional Safety and Health Review Board is not bound by fact and credibil-
    ity determinations made by an administrative law judge, although those
    determinations are entitled to “some weight,” and there must be sub-
    stantial evidence for rejecting them. Pratt & Whitney Aircraft v. Sec’y of
    Labor, 
    649 F.2d 96
    , 105 (2d Cir. 1981); Allis-Chalmers Corp. v. Occupational
    Safety & Health Review Comm’n, 
    542 F.2d 27
    , 30 (7th Cir. 1976). Similarly,
    the National Labor Relations Board is not bound by an administrative
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    Whether the Board applied the proper standard of re-
    view is a legal question. 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 536
    . We
    therefore review de novo whether the Board exceeded its
    clear-error scope of review. See 
    Lenjinac, 780 F.3d at 854
    ; Vi-
    tug v. Holder, 
    723 F.3d 1056
    , 1062–63 (9th Cir. 2013); Kabba v.
    Mukasey, 
    530 F.3d 1239
    , 1245 (10th Cir. 2008) (reviewing de
    novo as a question of law “whether the BIA applied the correct
    legal standard, not simply whether it stated the correct legal
    standard”) (emphasis in original).
    The clear-error standard of review precludes the Board
    from simply reweighing the evidence to reverse the immi-
    gration judge. According to the agency commentary on the
    final regulation mandating clear-error review, a judge’s
    “factfinding may not be overturned simply because the
    Board would have weighed the evidence differently or de-
    cided the facts differently had it been the factfinder.” Board
    of Immigration Appeals: Procedural Reforms to Improve
    Case Management, 67 Fed. Reg. 54878-01, 54889 (Executive
    Office for Immigration Review, Immigration and Naturaliza-
    tion Service August 26, 2002), citing Anderson v. Bessemer
    City, 
    470 U.S. 564
    , 573 (1985). Rather, “the BIA must find
    that, on balance, the weight of the evidence so strongly mili-
    tates against the IJ’s finding that the BIA ‘is left with the def-
    inite and firm conviction that a mistake has been commit-
    ted.’” Zhou Hua Zhu v. U.S. Attorney Gen., 
    703 F.3d 1303
    , 1315
    (11th Cir. 2013), quoting 67 Fed. Reg. at 54889; see also An-
    law judge’s factual findings, although those factual findings are entitled
    to weight as part of the record, and the Board holds itself to a “clear pre-
    ponderance of the evidence” standard in overturning a judge’s credibil-
    ity determinations. Slusher v. NLRB, 
    432 F.3d 715
    , 727 & n.5 (7th Cir.
    2005); In re Robert F. Kennedy Med. Ctr., 
    336 N.L.R.B. 765
    , 765 n.2 (2001).
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    derson, 470 U.S. at 573
    (quoting the same standard). The
    Board must explain how the immigration judge clearly
    erred. 
    Vitug, 723 F.3d at 1063
    .
    Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 52(a)(6) helps to illumi-
    nate the Board’s burden in overturning an immigration
    judge’s factual findings. We have noted that Rule 52(a)(6)
    “may have been the inspiration for § 1003.1(d)(3)(i),” the
    regulation requiring the Board to review immigration judg-
    es’ factual findings for clear error. See 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 538
    . Indeed, the Board’s own commentary on the
    regulation cited Anderson v. Bessemer City, the case providing
    the definitive interpretation of Rule 52(a)(6)’s clear-error
    standard. 67 Fed. Reg. at 54889–90, citing An
    derson, 470 U.S. at 573
    –75.5
    5  Many circuits use the Anderson standard to evaluate whether the
    Board adhered to its required clear-error standard of review. See, e.g.,
    Zumel v. Lynch, 
    803 F.3d 463
    , 475–76 (9th Cir. 2015) (using the Anderson
    standard in concluding that the Board exceeded its proper clear-error
    scope of review of an immigration judge’s finding, noting that the Board
    did not explain “why the [judge’s] determination … was ‘illogical or im-
    plausible, or without support in inferences that may be drawn from the
    facts in the record’”), quoting Rodriguez v. Holder, 
    683 F.3d 1164
    , 1170 (9th
    Cir. 2012); Zhou Hua 
    Zhu, 703 F.3d at 1309
    (stating that the “the Depart-
    ment explicitly adopted the standard for clear error drawn from Su-
    preme Court case law” in holding that the Board impermissibly failed to
    apply a clear-error standard in reviewing an immigration judge’s find-
    ings regarding the likelihood of an immigrant’s future persecution and
    current country conditions); Alvarado de Rodriguez v. Holder, 
    585 F.3d 227
    ,
    235–36 (5th Cir. 2009) (citing Anderson in holding that Board impermissi-
    bly failed to apply clear-error standard of review in overturning an im-
    migration judge’s findings and credibility determinations regarding
    whether an immigrant entered into a marriage in good faith); Kabba v.
    Mukasey, 
    530 F.3d 1239
    , 1246 (10th Cir. 2008) (citing Anderson in holding
    that the Board failed to apply the required clear-error standard in over-
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    Rule 52(a)(6) prohibits courts of appeals from setting
    aside a district court’s factual findings unless they are clearly
    erroneous. Under that standard, “Where there are two per-
    missible views of the evidence, the factfinder’s choice be-
    tween them cannot be clearly erroneous.” 
    Anderson, 470 U.S. at 574
    . A factual finding must be “illogical or implausible” or
    lack “support in inferences that may be drawn from the facts
    in the record” for an appellate court to overturn it on clear
    error review. 
    Id. at 577.
    When a fact-finder bases her finding
    on a decision to credit a witness’s testimony, that finding
    “can virtually never be clear error” as long as the testimony
    is “coherent and facially plausible,” “not internally incon-
    sistent,” and “not contradicted by extrinsic evidence.” 
    Id. at 575.
       Here, the Board exceeded the permissible scope of its re-
    view. It did not explicitly find that the immigration judge’s
    finding regarding the likelihood of torture was clearly erro-
    neous. Instead, it reversed the immigration judge because it
    was “not persuaded that the objective evidence establishes
    that the applicant will likely be tortured in Honduras upon
    his return.” We assume this would have been a sufficient
    reason for reversal on review de novo, but it overstepped the
    more limited bounds of clear-error review.
    The Board identified only one debatable instance of
    “clear error” in the immigration judge’s fact-finding, al-
    though we will assume its validity for our purposes. The
    turning an immigration judge’s credibility determination); Fen Yong Chen
    v. Bureau of Citizenship & Immigration Servs., 
    470 F.3d 509
    , 514–15 (2d Cir.
    2006) (citing Anderson standard in holding that the Board failed to apply
    the required clear-error standard in rejecting an immigration judge’s
    credibility determination).
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    Board found that the judge’s determination that Estrada
    “was not free from ongoing torture or harm after relocating
    within Honduras” was “clearly erroneous.” This finding of
    clear error appears to be correct to the extent the judge
    found that Estrada was actually tortured in the time period
    between fleeing his village in Honduras and escaping to the
    United States. As best we can tell, Estrada was not actually
    tortured during that period, though he had ample reason to
    fear torture. After his release from the detention and torture,
    he reported sightings of a suspicious vehicle near his home,
    and his house was ransacked while he was away. In context,
    it is at least arguable that the immigration judge was instead
    referring to the threat of torture during the time Estrada re-
    mained in Honduras rather than to actual torture, but for
    our purposes we will assume that finding was clearly erro-
    neous.
    This one instance of arguable clear error does not by ex-
    tension make the judge’s finding regarding Estrada’s likeli-
    hood of torture also clearly erroneous. See 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 538
    –39 (holding that the Board must review for
    clear error even “ultimate” facts that are based on other sub-
    sidiary facts). The judge based her likelihood-of-torture find-
    ing on many undisputed subsidiary facts, such as Estrada’s
    actual torture while in police custody, the 2006 threat against
    Estrada, Martinez’s continued connections to the Honduran
    security apparatus, and the reported country conditions in
    Honduras. The (presumed) fact that Estrada was not again
    tortured while in Honduras following his release does not
    make the judge’s determination that Estrada will likely be
    tortured if he is returned to Honduras implausible or illogi-
    cal. See 
    Anderson, 470 U.S. at 577
    , 579 (holding that a district
    court’s fact-finding was not clearly erroneous because it did
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    not meet those criteria). The judge’s likelihood-of-torture de-
    termination was still a “permissible” view of the evidence,
    which the Board could not overturn simply because, “had it
    been sitting as the trier of fact, it would have weighed the
    evidence differently.” 
    Id. at 574;
    see also 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 538
    –39 (reversing and remanding a Board deci-
    sion based on Board’s “independent appellate decision on
    facts”) (emphasis in original).
    The Board’s opinion demonstrates its impermissible re-
    weighing of the evidence to reverse the judge’s finding re-
    garding Estrada’s likelihood of torture. The judge found Es-
    trada’s testimony regarding his experience in Honduras can-
    did and credible. The Board did not dispute the judge’s find-
    ings that Estrada was previously tortured at the direction of
    Colonel Martinez for his leadership role in the peasant take-
    over of Martinez’s land, nor that Martinez continues to have
    close connections to the Honduran military and police. The
    Board discounted these facts, however, stating that “the rel-
    evant facts are not frozen at the time of the applicant’s depar-
    ture from Honduras in 1994.” The Board conceded that Es-
    trada’s fear of torture is consistent with the current condi-
    tions in Honduras but said this was “not enough” to con-
    vince it that Estrada is likely to face torture if he is removed.
    Similarly, the Board acknowledged the threats made against
    Estrada as recently as 2006, but it discounted these threats,
    saying that Estrada has heard nothing directly from Mar-
    tinez since he left Honduras and that his mistreatment by
    police at the airport in 2007 had nothing to do with his lead-
    ership in the land invasion. Finally, while the judge declined
    to give weight to the fact that Estrada’s peasant comrades in
    the land invasion remain on the land without trouble, the
    Board chose to view this as significant.
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    The Board’s treatment of these factual matters shows that
    the Board, rather than reviewing the judge’s findings of fact
    for clear error as required by regulation, instead reweighed
    the evidence to come to a conclusion different from the
    judge’s. The Board did not conclude that the judge’s finding
    regarding Estrada’s likelihood of torture was “illogical or
    implausible” or lacked “support in inferences that can be
    drawn from facts in the record.” See 
    Anderson, 540 U.S. at 577
    ; see also 
    Zumel, 803 F.3d at 476
    (concluding that the
    Board exceeded its proper clear error scope of review of an
    immigration judge’s finding because the Board did not ex-
    plain “why the [judge’s] determination … was ‘illogical or
    implausible, or without support in inferences that may be
    drawn from the facts in the record’”). The Board also did not
    find that Estrada’s testimony, which the judge credited and
    upon which she in part based her finding, was incoherent,
    facially implausible, internally inconsistent, or contradicted
    by extrinsic evidence. See 
    Anderson, 470 U.S. at 575
    . Thus, the
    Board made a legal error by failing to apply the required
    clear-error standard. See 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 539
    .
    VI. Disposition of the Petition
    The question remains how to remedy the Board’s legal
    error. Generally, if an agency commits legal error, we re-
    mand the decision to the agency for proceedings under the
    correct legal framework. E.g., 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 539
    , citing Gonzales v. Thomas, 
    547 U.S. 183
    (2006); Zhou Hua
    
    Zhu, 703 F.3d at 1315
    . The agency is entitled to make factual
    determinations and to have an opportunity to apply the law
    to those facts. 
    Gonzales, 547 U.S. at 186
    . Remand is also gen-
    erally required when a question of law implicates an agen-
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    cy’s interpretation of the statute it enforces. Negusie v. Holder,
    
    555 U.S. 511
    , 523 (2009).
    Remand is not always necessary, however. Courts of ap-
    peals have declined to remand when the facts are established
    and the correct outcome is clear. For example, in Vitug, the
    Ninth Circuit held that the Board failed to review the immi-
    gration judge’s factual findings under the proper clear-error
    standard of 
    review. 723 F.3d at 1064
    . The Ninth Circuit di-
    rected withholding of removal for the petitioner because “no
    reasonable factfinder” could come to a different conclusion
    based on the immigration judge’s uncontroverted findings.
    
    Id. at 1065–66;
    see also Ghebremedhin v. Ashcroft, 
    392 F.3d 241
    ,
    243 (7th Cir. 2004) (court has ability to decide petition on
    merits without remand if “the record evidence compels the
    result that we have reached,” but case was remanded on
    other grounds). In the majority of cases in which the Board
    applied the incorrect standard of review, however, courts of
    appeals remand for further consideration under the correct
    standard of review. See, e.g., 
    Rosiles-Camarena, 735 F.3d at 539
    ; Ridore v. Holder, 
    696 F.3d 907
    , 919 (9th Cir. 2012).
    The facts in this case are not in dispute. The immigration
    judge and Board did not question the veracity of Estrada’s
    evidence of his past torture, the 2006 threat against him,
    Martinez’s continuing influence with Honduras’s security
    apparatus, and the continuing conditions of violence against
    leaders of peasant movements in Honduras. Honduran
    peasant leaders continue to experience violence and human
    rights abuses committed by police. Based on these undisput-
    ed facts, the immigration judge concluded that Estrada will
    more likely than not be tortured if he is removed to Hondu-
    ras. That finding appears cogent and well supported by
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    credible evidence regarding both Estrada’s individual case
    and more general conditions of violence in Honduras. We
    nevertheless remand this case to the Board to apply clear er-
    ror review. Unless the Board determines that the judge’s
    finding regarding the likelihood of torture was clearly erro-
    neous, Estrada is entitled to deferral of removal under the
    Convention.
    To sum up, we DISMISS for lack of jurisdiction Estrada’s
    challenge to the Board’s decision that his statutory rape con-
    viction was a “particularly serious crime.” We also find,
    however, that, on the issue of deferral of removal under the
    Convention Against Torture, the Board failed to apply the
    correct standard of review to the immigration judge’s find-
    ing that Estrada will likely face torture if he is removed to
    Honduras. In that respect we GRANT Estrada’s petition and
    REMAND his case to the Board of Immigration Appeals for
    further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
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    MANION, Circuit Judge. I join the panel’s decisions to af-
    firm the Board of Immigration Appeals, with this note. Im-
    plicit in the Board’s statement that “the relevant facts are not
    frozen at the time of [Estrada’s] departure from Honduras in
    1994” is the fact that the Martinez family’s connections to the
    police and military may not remain intact. The CAT allows
    “deferral” of removal. Martinez was a retired colonel at least
    22 years ago. That connection to the government, possibly
    along with his sons’ police connections, appears necessary to
    the claimed risk of torture. If Martinez is dead and his po-
    lice-officer sons pose no problem, the CAT deferral should
    end. CAT protection should not be speculative. To determine
    whether the precise threat to Estrada still exists, the Board
    may need to remand this case to the immigration judge.