Gresham, Jimmy v. Peterson, Bart ( 2000 )


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  • In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 99-3770
    Jimmy Gresham, on his own behalf
    and on behalf of a class of those
    similarly situated,
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    v.
    Bart Peterson, in his official capacity as
    Mayor of the City of Indianapolis, Indiana,
    and the City of Indianapolis, Indiana,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Indiana, Indianapolis Division.
    No. 99 C 1101--S. Hugh Dillin, Judge.
    Argued March 30, 2000--Decided August 31, 2000
    Before Harlington Wood, Jr., Easterbrook and Kanne,
    Circuit Judges.
    Kanne, Circuit Judge. Jimmy Gresham challenges an
    Indianapolis ordinance that limits street begging
    in public places and prohibits entirely
    activities defined as "aggressive panhandling."
    Gresham believes that the ordinance infringes his
    First Amendment right to free speech and his
    Fourteenth Amendment right to due process. The
    city considers the ordinance a reasonable
    response to the public safety threat posed by
    panhandlers. The district court found that a
    state court could construe the ordinance in such
    a way to render it sufficiently clear and
    specific and granted the city summary judgment on
    Gresham’s request for a permanent injunction. We
    affirm.
    I.   History
    The parties have stipulated to the relevant
    facts, which for the purposes of reviewing a
    summary judgment motion, we accept as true. See
    Cable v. Ivy Tech State College, 
    200 F.3d 467
    ,
    476 (7th Cir. 1999). In June 1999, the City of
    Indianapolis amended an ordinance regarding
    solicitation in public places. The ordinance,
    which became effective on July 6, 1999, reads as
    follows:
    (a) As used in this section, panhandling means
    any solicitation made in person upon any street,
    public place or park in the city, in which a
    person requests an immediate donation of money or
    other gratuity from another person, and includes
    but is not limited to seeking donations:
    (1) By vocal appeal or for music, singing, or
    other street performance; and,
    (2) Where the person being solicited receives an
    item of little or no monetary value in exchange
    for a donation, under circumstances where a
    reasonable person would understand that the
    transaction is in substance a donation.
    However, panhandling shall not include the act of
    passively standing or sitting nor performing
    music, singing or other street performance with
    a sign or other indication that a donation is
    being sought, without any vocal request other
    than in response to an inquiry by another person.
    (b) It shall be unlawful to engage in an act of
    panhandling on any day after sunset, or before
    sunrise.
    (c) It shall be unlawful to engage in an act of
    panhandling when either the panhandler or the
    person being solicited is located at any of the
    following locations; at a bus stop; in any public
    transportation vehicle or public transportation
    facility; in a vehicle which is parked or stopped
    on a public street or alley; in a sidewalk cafe;
    or within twenty (20) feet in any direction from
    an automatic teller machine or entrance to a
    bank.
    (d) It shall be unlawful to engage in an act of
    panhandling in an aggressive manner, including
    any of the following actions:
    (1) Touching the solicited person without the
    solicited person’s consent.
    (2) Panhandling a person while such person is
    standing in line and waiting to be admitted to a
    commercial establishment;
    (3) Blocking the path of a person being
    solicited, or the entrance to any building or
    vehicle;
    (4) Following behind, ahead or alongside a
    person who walks away from the panhandler after
    being solicited;
    (5)   Using profane or abusive language, either
    during the solicitation or following a refusal to
    make a donation, or making any statement,
    gesture, or other communication which would cause
    a reasonable person to be fearful or feel
    compelled; or,
    (6) Panhandling in a group of two (2) or more
    persons.
    (e) Each act of panhandling prohibited by this
    section shall constitute a public nuisance and a
    separate violation of this Code. Each violation
    shall be punishable as provided in section 103-3
    of the Code, and the court shall enjoin any such
    violator from committing further violations of
    this section.
    City-County General Ordinance No. 78 (1999),
    Revised Code of Indianapolis and Marion County
    sec. 407-102. Section 103-3 provides that a
    person convicted of violating the ordinance will
    be fined not more than $2,500 for each violation.
    The ordinance does not provide for imprisonment
    of violators, except, of course, a past offender
    who violates the mandatory injunction provided in
    Paragraph (e) could be jailed for contempt.
    Jimmy Gresham is a homeless person who lives in
    Indianapolis on Social Security disability
    benefits of $417 per month. He supplements this
    income by begging, using the money to buy food.
    He begs during both the daytime and nighttime in
    downtown Indianapolis. Because different people
    visit downtown at night than during the day, it
    is important to him that he be able to beg at
    night. Gresham approaches people on the street,
    tells them he is homeless and asks for money to
    buy food. Gresham has not been cited for
    panhandling under the new ordinance, but he fears
    being cited for panhandling at night or if an
    officer interprets his requests for money to be
    "aggressive" as defined by the law.
    Gresham filed this class action shortly after
    the ordinance took effect, requesting injunctive
    and declaratory relief. Gresham moved for a
    preliminary injunction barring enforcement of the
    ordinance on the grounds that it was
    unconstitutionally vague and violated his right
    to free speech. The district court, after hearing
    oral argument, notified the parties that it would
    convert its order on the preliminary injunction
    into an order on the merits. The parties filed
    additional memoranda of law, but no additional
    evidence. On September 28, 1999, the court
    entered a final order denying the motion for
    preliminary injunction and dismissing the case.
    In the order, the district court construed the
    list of six actions that constitute aggressive
    panhandling as exclusive, eliminating the danger
    that someone could be cited for other,
    unenumerated acts. The court further ruled that
    the proscription in Paragraph (d)(5) against
    actions that make a person "fearful or feel
    compelled" was not unconstitutionally vague
    because it could be interpreted to mean "fear for
    his safety or feel compelled to donate." The
    court held that because the ordinance was civil
    in nature and the actions prohibited under
    aggressive panhandling were not related to speech
    interests, no intent element was necessary.
    Finally, the court found the ordinance to be a
    valid content-neutral regulation under Perry
    Educ. Ass’n v. Perry Local Educators’ Ass’n, 
    460 U.S. 37
    (1983).
    II.    Analysis
    On appeal, Gresham raises two principal
    arguments. First, he contends that the provisions
    defining aggressive panhandling are vague because
    they fail to provide clear criteria to alert
    panhandlers and authorities of what constitutes
    a violation and because they fail to include an
    intent element. Second, he argues that the
    statute fails the test for content-neutral time,
    place and manner restrictions on protected
    speech. We review de novo the question of whether
    a state law violates the Constitution. See
    Scariano v. Justices of Supreme Court of Ind., 
    38 F.3d 920
    , 924 (7th Cir. 1994).
    A.    The First Amendment
    Laws targeting street begging have been around
    for many years, but in the last twenty years,
    local communities have breathed new life into old
    laws or passed new ones. Cities, such as
    Indianapolis, have tried to narrowly draw the
    ordinances to target the most bothersome types of
    street solicitations and give police another tool
    in the effort to make public areas, particularly
    downtown areas, safe and inviting.
    While the plaintiff here has focused the
    inquiry on the effects of the ordinance on the
    poor and homeless, the ordinance itself is not so
    limited. It applies with equal force to anyone
    who would solicit a charitable contribution,
    whether for a recognized charity, a religious
    group, a political candidate or organization, or
    for an individual. It would punish street people
    as well as Salvation Army bell ringers outside
    stores at Christmas, so long as the appeal
    involved a vocal request for an immediate
    donation.
    The ordinance bans panhandling by beggars or
    charities citywide on any "street, public place
    or park" in three circumstances. First, it would
    prohibit any nighttime panhandling. sec. 407-
    102(b). Second, it would prohibit at all times--
    day or night--panhandling in specified areas.
    sec. 407-102(c). Third, it would prohibit
    "aggressive panhandling" at all times. sec. 407-
    102(d)(1)-(6). The defendants emphatically point
    out that the ordinance allows a great deal of
    solicitation, including "passive" panhandling,
    which does not include a vocal appeal, street
    performances, legitimate sales transactions and
    requests for donations over the telephone or any
    other means that is not "in person" or does not
    involve an "immediate donation." Under the
    ordinance, one could lawfully hold up a sign that
    says "give me money" and sing "I am cold and
    starving," so long as one does not voice words to
    the effect of "give me money."
    Several courts before us, as well as many
    commentators, have grappled with understanding
    panhandling laws in light of the First Amendment
    guarantee of free speech and the constitutional
    right to due process. See, e.g., Smith v. City of
    Fort Lauderdale, 
    177 F.3d 954
    (11th Cir. 1999);
    Loper v. New York City Police Dep’t, 
    999 F.2d 699
    (2d Cir. 1993). To this point, the Supreme Court
    has not resolved directly the constitutional
    limitations on such laws as they apply to
    individual beggars, but has provided clear
    direction on how they apply to organized
    charities, not-for-profits and political groups.
    See Riley v. National Fed’n of the Blind of North
    Carolina, Inc., 
    487 U.S. 781
    , 789 (1988);
    Secretary of State of Md. v. Joseph H. Munson
    Co., 
    467 U.S. 947
    , 959-60 (1984); Village of
    Schaumburg v. Citizens for a Better Environment,
    
    444 U.S. 620
    , 632 (1980).
    To the extent the Indianapolis ordinance could
    be enforced against organized charities, such as
    the United Way, Salvation Army or others, the
    Supreme Court’s holding in Schaumburg would
    control resolution of the case. In Schaumburg,
    the Supreme Court considered a local prohibition
    on solicitation by charities that did not use a
    certain percentage of their contributions for
    charitable 
    purposes. 444 U.S. at 623-24
    . As a
    threshold consideration, the Court determined
    that solicitations by organized charities were
    entitled to First Amendment protection. 
    Id. at 632.
    The Court found that charities often engage
    in core First Amendment speech while soliciting
    donations, and that without such appeals for
    support, the flow of information on many social,
    economic, political and cultural topics would
    cease. As such, the solicitations by organized
    charities were "within the protection of the
    First Amendment" although "subject to reasonable
    regulation." 
    Id. The Court
    placed charitable solicitations by
    organizations in a category of speech close to
    the heart of the First Amendment, and
    distinguished it from "purely commercial speech"
    which is "primarily concerned with providing
    information about the characteristics and costs
    of goods and services." 
    Id. Commercial speech,
    on
    the other hand, has been placed lower in the
    First Amendment food chain, somewhere between
    political speech and pornography. It deserves
    protection, but authorities are more free to
    regulate commercial speech than core-value
    speech.
    Other courts examining issues similar to those
    at hand did not distinguish between solicitation
    for organized charities and solicitation by
    individual beggars. The Eleventh Circuit held
    that "[l]ike other charitable solicitation,
    begging is speech entitled to First Amendment
    protection." 
    Smith, 177 F.3d at 956
    (citing
    
    Schaumburg, 444 U.S. at 632
    ). The Second Circuit
    likewise held that for First Amendment purposes,
    the distinction between begging for a charity and
    begging for one’s self is not significant. 
    Loper, 999 F.2d at 704
    . "We see little difference
    between those who solicit for organized charities
    and those who solicit for themselves in regard to
    the message conveyed." 
    Id. Both Smith
    and Loper
    held that limitations on panhandling must be
    analyzed under the same Schaumburg framework as
    limitations for charities. 
    Smith, 177 F.3d at 956
    ; 
    Loper, 999 F.2d at 704
    .
    Indeed, the Court’s analysis in Schaumburg
    suggests little reason to distinguish between
    beggars and charities in terms of the First
    Amendment protection for their speech.
    Solicitation, the Court reasoned, "is
    characteristically intertwined with informative
    and perhaps persuasive speech" which the First
    Amendment protects. 
    Schaumburg, 444 U.S. at 632
    .
    Because they are intimately connected,
    solicitation cannot be restricted without also
    risking the flow of information. Importantly, the
    Schaumburg Court expressly rejected the
    suggestion that the message and the solicitation
    could be considered severable. 
    Id. at 628-32.
    The
    village had argued that the ordinance prohibited
    only the request for money and left the charity
    free to propagate its views, but the Court called
    this view of the First Amendment protection for
    solicitors "too limited." After extensively
    reviewing its own case law on the subject, the
    Court held that restrictions on a charity’s
    request for money necessarily implicate
    restrictions on speech itself. 
    Id. at 632.
    Similarly, the Indianapolis ordinance protects
    the communication of ideas by solicitors and
    limits only the bare request for cash. Yet the
    two can be closely intertwined. Beggars at times
    may communicate important political or social
    messages in their appeals for money, explaining
    their conditions related to veteran status,
    homelessness, unemployment and disability, to
    name a few. Like the organized charities, their
    messages cannot always be easily separated from
    their need for money. While some communities
    might wish all solicitors, beggars and advocates
    of various causes be vanished from the streets,
    the First Amendment guarantees their right to be
    there, deliver their pitch and ask for support.
    See 
    Schaumburg, 444 U.S. at 632
    ("[C]haritable
    appeals for funds, on the street or door to door,
    involve a variety of speech interests . . . that
    are within the protection of the First
    Amendment."). Neither the parties to this appeal
    nor any authorities found by this Court suggest
    we should distinguish between restrictions on
    organized charities and individuals for purposes
    of understanding the First Amendment guarantees.
    Therefore, assuming for the purposes of this
    appeal that some panhandler speech would be
    protected by the First Amendment, we find that
    Schaumburg provides the appropriate standard to
    analyze this claim./1
    After recognizing a First Amendment right to
    solicit money in public places, the Schaumburg
    Court held that a government may enact
    "reasonable regulations" so long as they reflect
    "due regard" for the constitutional interests at
    
    stake. 444 U.S. at 632
    . The parties assume that
    the proper analysis to determine whether the
    Indianapolis ordinance is one such reasonable
    regulation is that set out for "time, place and
    manner" restrictions in 
    Perry, 460 U.S. at 45
    .
    Because the Indianapolis ordinance does not ban
    all panhandling, we agree that the law could be
    understood as a time, place or manner regulation.
    See Cantwell v. Connecticut, 
    310 U.S. 296
    , 304
    (1940). Under Perry, governments may "enforce
    regulations of the time, place and manner of
    expression which are content neutral, are
    narrowly tailored to serve a significant
    government interest, and leave open ample
    alternative channels of 
    communication." 460 U.S. at 45
    . Other courts considering restrictions on
    solicitation also have applied the time, place,
    manner analysis from Perry. See 
    Smith, 177 F.3d at 956
    ; ISKCON of Potomac, Inc. v. Kennedy, 
    61 F.3d 949
    , 953 (D.C. Cir. 1995); 
    Loper, 999 F.2d at 704
    -05.
    Colorable arguments could be made both for and
    against the idea that the Indianapolis ordinance
    is a content-neutral time, place or manner
    restriction. The Supreme Court has held that
    "[g]overnment regulation of expressive activity
    is content neutral so long as it is ’justified
    without reference to the content of the regulated
    speech.’" Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 
    491 U.S. 781
    , 791 (1989) (citation omitted). To help apply
    this somewhat circular definition, the Court
    instructed that the principal inquiry is "whether
    the government has adopted a regulation of speech
    because of disagreement with the message it
    conveys." 
    Id. In City
    of Cincinnati v. Discovery
    Network, Inc., 
    507 U.S. 410
    , 428-29 (1993), the
    Court held that a ban on newsracks containing
    commercial handbills but not newspapers was
    content-based because "whether any particular
    newsrack falls within the ban is determined by
    the content of the publication resting inside
    that newsrack." Similarly here, whether a
    solicitor violates the ordinance depends on
    whether he asked for cash rather than for
    something else. On one side of the argument, the
    city ordinance does not prohibit all solicitation
    on city streets, only solicitations for immediate
    cash donations. One could, for instance, ask
    passers-by for their signatures, time, labor or
    anything else, other than money. Only by
    determining the specific content of a solicitor’s
    speech could authorities determine whether they
    violated the ordinance, which would seem to be a
    content-based restriction. See 
    id. at 429;
    Ward,
    491 U.S. at 791
    . But as Ward and more recently
    Hill v. Colorado, 
    120 S. Ct. 2480
    , 2491 (2000),
    emphasized, the inquiry into content neutrality
    in the context of time, place or manner
    restrictions turns on the government’s
    justification for the regulation. Because the
    parties here agree that the regulations are
    content neutral, we need not decide whether the
    Indianapolis ordinance can be justified without
    reference to the content of the regulated speech.
    Thus the Indianapolis ordinance should be upheld
    if it is narrowly tailored to achieve a
    significant governmental purpose and leaves open
    alternate channels of communication.
    The city has a legitimate interest in promoting
    the safety and convenience of its citizens on
    public streets. See Madsen v. Women’s Health
    Center, 
    512 U.S. 753
    , 768 (1994) (holding that
    the state "also has a strong interest in ensuring
    the public safety and order, in promoting the
    free flow of traffic on public streets and
    sidewalks . . ."); Heffron v. International Soc.
    for Krishna Consciousness, Inc., 
    452 U.S. 640
    ,
    650 (1981) (recognizing state interest in safety
    and convenience of citizens using public fora);
    Cox v. New Hampshire, 
    312 U.S. 569
    , 574 (1941)
    (recognizing state interest in safety and
    convenience on public roads); Ayres v. City of
    Chicago, 
    125 F.3d 1010
    , 1015 (7th Cir. 1997)
    ("There are unquestionable benefits from
    regulating peddling, First Amendment or
    otherwise, [including] the control of
    congestion."). The plaintiff concedes this much,
    but argues that a total nighttime ban on verbal
    requests for alms is substantially broader than
    necessary and therefore cannot be considered
    narrowly tailored. However, a government
    regulation can be considered narrowly tailored
    "so long as the . . . regulation promotes a
    substantial government interest that would be
    achieved less effectively absent the regulation."
    
    Ward, 491 U.S. at 799
    . This means the regulation
    need not be a perfect fit for the government’s
    needs, but cannot burden substantially more
    speech than necessary. 
    Id. at 800.
    Furthermore,
    a time, place or manner restriction need not be
    the least restrictive means of achieving the
    government purpose, so long as it can be
    considered narrowly tailored to that purpose. 
    Id. at 797.
    The city determined that vocal requests for
    money create a threatening environment or at
    least a nuisance for some citizens. Rather than
    ban all panhandling, however, the city chose to
    restrict it only in those circumstances where it
    is considered especially unwanted or bothersome--
    at night, around banks and sidewalk cafes, and so
    forth. These represent situations in which people
    most likely would feel a heightened sense of fear
    or alarm, or might wish especially to be left
    alone. By limiting the ordinance’s restrictions
    to only those certain times and places where
    citizens naturally would feel most insecure in
    their surroundings, the city has effectively
    narrowed the application of the law to what is
    necessary to promote its legitimate interest.
    Finally, the plaintiff contends that the statute
    fails to provide ample alternative channels of
    communication. We disagree. An adequate
    alternative does not have to be the speaker’s
    first or best choice, see 
    Heffron, 452 U.S. at 647
    , or one that provides the same audience or
    impact for the speech. See 
    Ward, 491 U.S. at 802
    ;
    Cornelius v. NAACP Legal Defense and Educational
    Fund, Inc., 
    473 U.S. 788
    , 809 (1985) (holding
    that in context nonpublic forum, an ample
    alternative does not need to be the most
    efficient one for speaker’s purposes). However,
    the Court has "shown special solicitude for forms
    of expression that are much less expensive than
    feasible alternatives," City Council of Los
    Angeles v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 
    466 U.S. 789
    ,
    812 n.30 (1984), and so an alternative must be
    more than merely theoretically available. It must
    be realistic as well. See Linmark Assocs., Inc.
    v. Township of Willingboro, 
    431 U.S. 85
    , 93
    (1977). Furthermore, an adequate alternative
    cannot totally foreclose a speaker’s ability to
    reach one audience even if it allows the speaker
    to reach other groups. See Bery v. City of New
    York, 
    97 F.3d 689
    , 698 (2d Cir. 1996) (holding
    that total ban on sidewalk art does not leave
    open alternative means of communication because
    alternative display in galleries or museums would
    not reach the same audience.)
    The Indianapolis ordinance allows many feasible
    alternatives to reach both the daytime and
    nighttime downtown Indianapolis crowds. Under the
    ordinance, panhandlers may ply their craft
    vocally or in any manner they deem fit (except
    for those involving conduct defined as
    aggressive) during all the daylight hours on all
    of the city’s public streets. Gresham contends
    that soliciting at night is vital to his
    survival, a fact we do not dispute, but the
    ordinance leaves open many reasonable ways for
    him to reach the nighttime downtown crowd. He may
    solicit at night, so long as he does not vocally
    request money. He may hold up signs requesting
    money or engage in street performances, such as
    playing music, with an implicit appeal for
    support. Although perhaps not relevant to street
    beggars, the ordinance also permits telephone and
    door-to-door solicitation at night. Thus to the
    extent that "give me money" conveys an idea the
    expression of which is protected by the First
    Amendment, solicitors may express themselves
    vocally all day, and in writing, by telephone or
    by other non-vocal means all night. Furthermore,
    they may solicit in public places on all 396.4
    square miles of the city, except those parts
    occupied by sidewalk cafes, banks, ATMs and bus
    stops. This is a far cry from the total citywide
    ban on panhandling overturned by the court in
    
    Loper, 999 F.2d at 705
    ("[A] statute that totally
    prohibits begging in all public places cannot be
    considered ’narrowly tailored.’"), or the total
    ban on panhandling in a five-mile area of public
    beach upheld by the court in 
    Smith, 177 F.3d at 956
    .
    B.   Vagueness
    Gresham next challenges certain provisions of
    the ordinance as unconstitutionally vague.
    Specifically, he contends that the definition of
    aggressive panhandling in sections (d)(4) and
    (d)(5) are not sufficiently clear to direct
    authorities on the enforcement of the law, nor to
    allow panhandlers such as Gresham to avoid
    violating the law. Section (d)(4) prohibits
    "[f]ollowing behind, ahead or alongside a person
    who walks away from the panhandler after being
    solicited." Gresham argues hypothetically that
    police could cite a person for inadvertently
    violating this section merely by walking in the
    same direction as the solicited person, without
    intending to engage in "aggressive panhandling."
    Also, section (d)(5) refers to making a person
    "fearful or feel compelled" without defining what
    the terms mean in relation to panhandling. A
    generalized guilt at economic inequality might
    make one "feel compelled" even by the meekest
    request for money.
    The void-for-vagueness doctrine forbids the
    enforcement of a law that contains "terms so
    vague that [persons] of common intelligence must
    necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to
    its application." Roberts v. United States
    Jaycees, 
    468 U.S. 609
    , 629 (1984) (quoting
    Connally v. General Construction Co., 
    269 U.S. 385
    , 391 (1926)). Legislative enactments must
    articulate terms "with a reasonable degree of
    clarity" to reduce the risk of arbitrary
    enforcement and allow individuals to conform
    their behavior to the requirements of the law.
    
    Id. A statute
    that "vests virtually complete
    discretion in the hands of the police" fails to
    provide the minimal guidelines required for due
    process. See Kolender v. Lawson, 
    461 U.S. 352
    ,
    358 (1983).
    In assessing the constitutionality of an
    allegedly vague state law or ordinance, "a
    federal court must, of course, consider any
    limiting construction that a state court or
    enforcement agency has proffered." Village of
    Hoffman Estates v. Flipside, Hoffman Estates,
    Inc., 
    455 U.S. 489
    , 494 n.5 (1982) ("Hoffman
    Estates"); see also 
    Roberts, 468 U.S. at 630-31
    ;
    
    Kolender, 461 U.S. at 355
    & n.4. In this case,
    the Indiana courts have not yet had an
    opportunity to interpret the terms of the
    Indianapolis ordinance, and so we have no
    authoritative judicial construction of its terms.
    See generally, Brownsburg Area Patrons Affecting
    Change v. Baldwin, 
    714 N.E.2d 135
    , 141 (Ind.
    1999) ("We have regularly said that courts have
    an overriding obligation to construe our statutes
    in such a way as to render them constitutional if
    reasonably possible.") (internal quotation and
    citations omitted). However, the rule that
    federal courts should defer to state court
    interpretations of state laws, see City of
    Chicago v. Morales, 
    527 U.S. 41
    (1999), also
    discourages federal courts from enjoining
    statutes that could be easily narrowed by a state
    court to avoid constitutional problems. See
    Erznoznik v. City of Jacksonville, 
    422 U.S. 205
    ,
    216 (1975) ("[A] state statute should not be
    deemed facially invalid unless it is not readily
    subject to a narrowing construction by the state
    courts.") (citing Dombrowski v. Pfister, 
    380 U.S. 479
    , 497 (1965)). Therefore, we will not hold a
    vague statute unconstitutional if a reasonable
    interpretation by a state court could render it
    constitutional in some application.
    Laws must contain a "reasonable degree of
    clarity" so that people of "common intelligence"
    can understand their meaning. 
    Roberts, 468 U.S. at 629
    . Furthermore, because the penalties for
    noncompliance are less severe, laws imposing
    civil rather than criminal penalties do not
    demand the same high level of clarity. See
    Hoffman 
    Estates, 455 U.S. at 498-99
    . Like the
    civil sanction at issue in Hoffman Estates,
    Gresham faces only a fine for noncompliance with
    the Indianapolis law. However, this lowered
    burden is mitigated by the fact that the
    Indianapolis ordinance potentially interferes
    with the right of free speech, suggesting that a
    "more stringent vagueness test should apply." 
    Id. at 499
    (citing Papachristou v. City of
    Jacksonville, 
    405 U.S. 156
    , 162 (1972) and
    Grayned v. City of Rockford, 
    408 U.S. 104
    , 109
    (1972)).
    The challenged provisions in this case define
    what the City Council meant by the term
    "aggressive panhandling" and must be read in that
    context. The district court was rightly concerned
    that Paragraph (d) could be construed as offering
    an incomplete list of examples of prohibited
    behavior, leaving open the possibility that other
    unspecified actions might also be considered
    illegal, which would raise serious due process
    concerns. The district court suggested that the
    list might be exclusive rather than illustrative,
    a reasonable interpretation which, if adopted by
    the Indiana courts, would save it from a
    vagueness challenge.
    Likewise, Paragraphs (d)(4) and (d)(5) are
    subject to reasonable interpretations that answer
    the vagueness challenge. A state court
    interpreting Paragraph (d)(4) may read it to
    prohibit "following" only in the context of a
    continued request for money such that the victim
    reasonably interprets the behavior as a threat.
    A continuing request for a donation coupled with
    "following" would be prohibited, but walking in
    the same direction as the solicited person would
    not be against the law if the walking were
    divorced from the request. Construed this way,
    the statute would prohibit the type of harassing
    behavior that governments routinely outlaw. See,
    e.g., Ind. Code sec. 35-45-2-1 (prohibiting as
    intimidation a threat by words or action that
    forces a person to engage in conduct against
    their will); Ind. Code sec. 35-45-10-1
    (prohibiting as stalking a "course of conduct
    involving repeated or continuing harassment of
    another person that would cause a reasonable
    person to feel terrorized, frightened,
    intimidated, or threatened."); Johnson v. State,
    
    648 N.E.2d 666
    , 670 (Ind. Ct. App. 1995)
    (upholding stalking statute against vagueness
    challenge). Numerous cases hold that governments
    may proscribe threats, extortion, blackmail and
    the like, "despite the fact that they criminalize
    utterances because of their expressive content."
    United States v. Hayward, 
    6 F.3d 1241
    , 1259 (7th
    Cir. 1993) (Flaum, J., concurring); see, e.g.,
    Watts v. United States, 
    394 U.S. 705
    , 707 (1969)
    (upholding constitutionality of law against
    threatening life of the President); United States
    v. Velasquez, 
    772 F.2d 1348
    , 1357 (7th Cir. 1985)
    (holding that threats of physical violence are
    not protected by First Amendment); see also
    R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 
    505 U.S. 377
    , 420
    (1992) (Stevens, J., concurring) (quoting
    Frederick Schauer, Categories and the First
    Amendment: A Play in Three Acts, 34 Vand. L. Rev.
    265, 270 (1981)) ("Although the First Amendment
    broadly protects ’speech,’ it does not protect
    the right to ’fix prices, breach contracts, make
    false warranties, place bets with bookies,
    threaten, [or] extort.’").
    Paragraph (d)(5) could be construed to prohibit
    "any statement, gesture, or other communication"
    that makes a reasonable person feel they face
    danger if they refuse to donate, that they are
    being compelled out of physical fear. The
    possibility that a polite request for a donation
    might be heard as a threatening demand by an
    unusually sensitive or timid person is eliminated
    by the "reasonable person" standard included in
    the ordinance. A statement that makes a
    reasonable person feel compelled to donate out of
    physical fear amounts to a prohibition on robbery
    or extortion, which of course would be
    constitutional. While it is not a certainty that
    the state courts would adopt constitutional
    interpretations of the panhandling provisions,
    they are entitled to the opportunity to do so,
    and we will not interfere with that right. The
    district court did not err in refusing to enjoin
    the ordinance based on the vagueness concerns.
    III.   Conclusion
    For the foregoing reasons, we Affirm the district
    court’s denial of a permanent injunction and
    dismissal of Gresham’s complaint.
    /1 As an aside, we note that the Court in Schaumburg
    distinguished solicitation from commercial
    speech, which is "primarily concerned with
    providing information about the characteristics
    and costs of goods and 
    services." 444 U.S. at 632
    . The Eleventh Circuit, noting that the
    parties did not raise the argument, declined to
    reach the issue of whether panhandling could be
    considered commercial speech and therefore
    subject to more regulation. See 
    Smith, 177 F.3d at 956
    n.2. We too will follow that prudent
    approach and not decide an issue the parties
    declined to raise. See generally Robert C.
    Ellickson, Controlling Chronic Misconduct in City
    Spaces: Of Panhandlers, Skid Rows, and Public-
    Space Zoning, 105 Yale L.J. 1165, 1229 (1996)
    (discussing possibility of treating begging as
    commercial speech). In any event, considering the
    Supreme Court’s definition of commercial speech
    as outlined in Schaumburg, we doubt panhandling
    falls into this classification.