Scott Schmidt v. Brian Foster ( 2018 )


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  •                                In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 17-1727
    SCOTT SCHMIDT,
    Petitioner-Appellant,
    v.
    BRIAN FOSTER,
    Respondent-Appellee.
    ____________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Eastern District of Wisconsin.
    No. 13-CV-1150 — Charles N. Clevert, Jr., Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED JANUARY 4, 2018 — DECIDED MAY 29, 2018
    ____________________
    Before WOOD, Chief Judge, and HAMILTON and BARRETT,
    Circuit Judges.
    HAMILTON, Circuit Judge. Petitioner Scott Schmidt mur-
    dered his wife, Kelly Wing-Schmidt. He admitted the murder
    but tried to rely on the state-law defense of “adequate provo-
    cation” to mitigate the crime from first- to second-degree
    homicide. A state trial judge denied Schmidt the assistance of
    his counsel while the judge questioned Schmidt in a pretrial
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    hearing on that substantive issue. Under law clearly estab-
    lished by the Supreme Court of the United States, the eviden-
    tiary hearing on that substantive issue was a “critical stage”
    of Schmidt’s prosecution. By denying Schmidt the assistance
    of counsel in that critical stage, the state court violated his
    Sixth Amendment right to counsel.
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees the accused in a crimi-
    nal case “the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.” Because
    “an unaided layman” has “little skill in arguing the law or in
    coping with an intricate procedural system,” the Supreme
    Court has long held that the right to counsel extends beyond
    the trial itself. United States v. Ash, 
    413 U.S. 300
    , 307 (1973).
    Criminal prosecutions involve “critical confrontations” be-
    fore trial “where the results might well settle the accused’s
    fate.” United States v. Wade, 
    388 U.S. 218
    , 224 (1967). The Sixth
    Amendment therefore guarantees defendants “the guiding
    hand of counsel” at all “‘critical’ stages of the proceedings.”
    
    Id.
     at 224–25, quoting Powell v. Alabama, 
    287 U.S. 45
    , 69 (1932).
    Since Schmidt admitted having murdered his wife, the
    only substantive issue in the prosecution was whether he
    acted under “adequate provocation,” which in Wisconsin
    would mitigate homicide from first to second degree. The
    prosecution opposed Schmidt’s intended defense, arguing be-
    fore trial that he had failed to offer “some evidence” of prov-
    ocation, which would be sufficient to shift the burden of per-
    suasion to the state to disprove provocation beyond a reason-
    able doubt. The trial court chose to address this critical sub-
    stantive issue before trial.
    After a hearing where counsel debated the defense’s writ-
    ten summary of evidence of provocation, the trial court held
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    an unprecedented ex parte, in camera hearing. The judge al-
    lowed Schmidt’s counsel to attend the hearing but, critically,
    did not allow him to speak or participate. Instead, the judge
    questioned Schmidt directly. After listening to Schmidt’s an-
    swers, the judge ruled that Schmidt could not present the ad-
    equate provocation defense at trial. A jury convicted Schmidt
    of first-degree intentional homicide, and he was sentenced to
    life in prison.
    Schmidt sought post-conviction relief, and the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals held that the trial court did not violate
    Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment right to counsel. That decision
    was an unreasonable application of clearly established Su-
    preme Court precedent guaranteeing counsel at all critical
    stages of criminal proceedings, including whenever “poten-
    tial substantial prejudice to defendant’s rights inheres in the
    particular confrontation.” Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 227
    . Schmidt
    therefore meets the stringent standards for habeas corpus re-
    lief under 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1). 1
    I. Factual & Procedural Background
    In April 2009, Schmidt shot his wife, Kelly Wing-Schmidt,
    seven times. She died in their driveway. When police officers
    1  The usual relief in such a case would be to order the State either to
    release Schmidt or to retry him. A different remedy may be appropriate
    here. In the district court, the State requested the option to ask the state
    trial court to modify the judgment of conviction to second-degree inten-
    tional homicide and to resentence Schmidt accordingly. In briefing in this
    appeal, Schmidt says he agrees with that request. On remand, the district
    court should consider that option, in addition to the usual choices of retrial
    or release.
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    arrived, they found Schmidt standing by her body. He quickly
    admitted he had shot her.
    A. The Trial Court Proceedings
    Wisconsin charged Schmidt with first-degree intentional
    homicide. Schmidt never denied shooting and killing Kelly,
    but he intended to argue at trial that he acted with “adequate
    provocation.” In Wisconsin, adequate provocation is an af-
    firmative defense that mitigates intentional homicide from
    first to second degree for defendants who “lack self-control
    completely at the time of causing death.” 
    Wis. Stat. §§ 939.44
    ;
    940.01(2)(a). To be “adequate,” the provocation must be “suf-
    ficient to cause complete lack of self-control in an ordinarily
    constituted person.” § 939.44. If the defendant can produce
    “some” evidence supporting adequate provocation before
    trial, then the defendant may introduce evidence of the de-
    fense at trial. State v. Schmidt, 
    824 N.W.2d 839
    , 843 (Wis. App.
    2012), citing State v. Head, 
    648 N.W.2d 413
    , 439 (Wis. 2002). The
    prosecution must then disprove the defense beyond a reason-
    able doubt. Schmidt, 824 N.W.2d at 843, citing Head, 648
    N.W.2d at 437–38.
    Schmidt filed a pretrial motion disclosing that he would
    present evidence of provocation through “false allegations,
    controlling behaviors, threats, isolation, unfaithfulness, ver-
    bal abuse and arguments.” Schmidt planned to present evi-
    dence that his wife had abused him emotionally and physi-
    cally throughout their marriage. He would have testified that
    right before the shooting, he and Kelly had a heated argument
    in which Kelly taunted him about an affair he had just discov-
    ered, told him their children were not actually his, and threat-
    ened to make up stories so that he would never see their chil-
    dren again. According to Schmidt, he lost self-control and
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    shot his wife. The State objected to the evidence, arguing that
    Schmidt’s disclosure lacked specificity and that the circum-
    stances did not support an adequate provocation defense. The
    State also argued that Schmidt did not clarify the timeframe
    covered by his proposed evidence and that evidence dating
    back too far would be irrelevant and prejudicial.
    The court acknowledged the State’s concerns. Over
    Schmidt’s objection, the court scheduled a hearing to deter-
    mine whether Schmidt had met the some-evidence standard
    and could present the defense at trial. Before the hearing,
    Schmidt submitted two documents: an offer of proof summa-
    rizing the testimony of twenty-nine potential witnesses and a
    legal analysis of the provocation defense with a timeline of
    events from 2004 through the 2009 shooting.
    The evidentiary hearing began in court with Schmidt, his
    lawyer, and the prosecutor present. The judge was not pre-
    pared to decide on the paper submissions alone whether
    Schmidt could meet the “some evidence” threshold for the
    provocation defense. Schmidt’s lawyer objected to having to
    expose his defense evidence before trial. The judge decided
    that he should question Schmidt ex parte to assess the provo-
    cation defense. Schmidt’s counsel agreed that if the court in-
    tended to question Schmidt, it should do so in chambers out-
    side of the prosecutor’s presence. The court then proposed to
    the prosecutor that Schmidt’s counsel would attend the hear-
    ing in chambers, but would “just be present” and “not saying
    anything.” The prosecutor agreed. Schmidt’s counsel did not
    object, but nobody asked Schmidt if he was willing to go for-
    ward in this hearing, so critical to his fate, without the assis-
    tance of his lawyer.
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    The trial judge, court reporter, Schmidt, and Schmidt’s
    counsel proceeded to the judge’s chambers. The judge stated
    that Schmidt “appears in person” and that “his attorney is
    also present but is not participating in the hearing.” The court
    then asked Schmidt an open-ended question about what was
    on his mind when he shot Kelly. Schmidt gave the first of what
    would be several rambling narrative responses:
    The day I went over was April 17th. I hadn’t
    slept in at least a week, week-and-a-half. And
    I—it was like two days before that, I believe the
    14th of April, the 14th or 15th of April I think it
    was, that I found an e-mail on my work com-
    puter from a—of a reservation for my wife and
    a guy that she supposedly was a friend with that
    worked for Gold Cross Ambulance. And I
    found that when I was at the fire station. I knew
    of him, up until that point, that they were
    friends.
    Um, I had been out of the house for a couple
    of weeks. And I walked there. I went to the fire
    station, and I walked up to the house, because I
    knew there were some issues with, um, Kelly
    had threatened to take—these aren’t my f’ing
    kids, that if she saw me at the house that she
    didn’t want—I wasn’t going to be part of the
    kids’ lives anymore, our two youngest children.
    I just had a feeling that she’d probably call the
    cops if I pulled in the driveway. So I parked at
    the station, Fire Station 6, over on Lightning,
    and I walked to the house.
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    Actually, my main goal was, um, I had a job
    to do. I was going to build a house for a retired
    battalion chief up in Door County. And all my
    tools, my job trailer, and everything was at our
    house on JJ on Edgewood. I was at the time stay-
    ing out at the lake—the lake house that I had—
    had owned prior to us being married in Stock-
    bridge. And there’s—I didn’t have any heat,
    slept on the couch, there was no blankets. I
    mean, it was—there were no dishes. I had—eve-
    rything was—the house was empty. Gas was ac-
    tually shut off because we—instead of paying
    the bills there, I wanted to make sure the bills
    were paid where the kids and Kelly were at … .
    That first answer continued for fourteen transcript pages.
    Thus began what the Wisconsin Court of Appeals called a
    “rambling narrative” that spans thirty-five transcript pages.
    Schmidt, 824 N.W.2d at 847. The trial court asked Schmidt the
    same open-ended question about his mental state six times.
    Each time Schmidt’s response was unfocused and confused
    with irrelevant details.
    Near the end of the questioning, the judge took a short
    break for a telephone call. Schmidt’s lawyer asked if he could
    talk to Schmidt. The judge responded that they should limit
    discussion to reviewing the written offer of proof. After the
    break, the judge asked Schmidt a few more questions before
    ending the hearing. Later that day, the court orally announced
    that “the circumstances that led to the death of Kelly Wing did
    not involve a provocation” and denied Schmidt’s motion to
    present the defense at trial, rejecting it conclusively.
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    B. Post-conviction Processes
    A jury convicted Schmidt of first-degree intentional hom-
    icide. 2 Schmidt moved for a new trial, arguing that he had
    been denied his Sixth Amendment right to counsel and his
    Sixth and Fourteenth Amendment right to present a defense.
    The trial court denied the motion, concluding that Schmidt
    had not met his burden of production to present the adequate
    provocation defense. The trial court also concluded that
    Schmidt was not denied counsel at the ex parte hearing be-
    cause his counsel submitted the written offer of proof, made
    an oral argument, and conferred with Schmidt during the re-
    cess for the judge’s telephone call.
    Schmidt appealed, and the Wisconsin Court of Appeals af-
    firmed. The Court of Appeals found that Schmidt had not met
    the some-evidence standard, though the court called it “a
    close question.” The court found that the ex parte interrogation
    was a valid exercise of the trial judge’s discretion under state
    law. Turning to the Sixth Amendment question, the Court of
    Appeals found that the ex parte hearing was not a critical stage
    of the proceedings at which Schmidt was entitled to counsel.
    The court also reasoned that the hearing was not adversarial
    and that counsel was available to advise Schmidt. The court
    did not reach Schmidt’s claim that the hearing violated his
    right to present a defense. The Wisconsin Supreme Court de-
    nied review.
    Schmidt then sought habeas corpus relief in federal court,
    raising the Sixth and Fourteenth Amendment claims. The dis-
    trict court denied relief on both. The district court considered
    2 The jury also convicted Schmidt of recklessly endangering safety and
    bail-jumping. He does not challenge those convictions.
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    de novo Schmidt’s claim that he was denied the right to present
    a defense and concluded that the Wisconsin evidence law did
    not deprive him of that right because it protected a legitimate
    interest and was not arbitrary or disproportionate. The court
    next found that the deferential standard of review under the
    Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (AEDPA) gov-
    erned the Sixth Amendment claim. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d).
    The district court concluded that the Wisconsin Court of Ap-
    peals decision was not contrary to or an unreasonable appli-
    cation of Supreme Court precedent guaranteeing criminal de-
    fendants counsel at all critical stages. The district court there-
    fore denied habeas relief but granted a certificate of appeala-
    bility on both issues.
    II. Analysis
    The Wisconsin Court of Appeals rejected Schmidt’s Sixth
    Amendment claim on the merits, and the facts are not dis-
    puted. Under AEDPA, a federal court therefore cannot grant
    a writ of habeas corpus on that claim unless the state court
    decision “was contrary to, or involved an unreasonable appli-
    cation of, clearly established Federal law, as determined
    by the Supreme Court of the United States.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1). A state court’s decision is unreasonable if it cor-
    rectly identifies the controlling Supreme Court precedent but
    “unreasonably extends” that “legal principle” to “a new con-
    text where it should not apply or unreasonably refuses to ex-
    tend that principle to a new context where it should apply.”
    Williams v. Taylor, 
    529 U.S. 362
    , 407 (2000). To obtain federal
    relief, Schmidt must show that the state court decision was
    not just incorrect but “objectively unreasonable.” 
    Id.
     at 409–
    10; accord, e.g., Woodford v. Visciotti, 
    537 U.S. 19
    , 24–25 (2002)
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    (per curiam). This standard is meant to be “difficult to meet.”
    Harrington v. Richter, 
    562 U.S. 86
    , 102 (2011).
    Even under this deferential standard, Schmidt is entitled
    to a writ of habeas corpus. The state-court decision was an ob-
    jectively unreasonable application of Supreme Court deci-
    sions on the right to counsel. The ex parte hearing was a critical
    stage of the proceeding. Schmidt was guaranteed “the guid-
    ing hand of counsel” throughout it, see Powell, 
    287 U.S. at 69
    ,
    but he did not have that guidance because of the judge’s
    ground rules for his inquisition of Schmidt, barring his coun-
    sel from participating. Because we grant Schmidt’s petition
    based on the violation of his right to counsel, we do not reach
    his claim that the trial court also denied his right to present a
    defense.
    A. “Critical Stage”
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees that in “all criminal
    prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right” to “have the
    Assistance of Counsel for his defence.” The Supreme Court
    has long recognized that the right applies not only at trial but
    also at all “critical stages” of the adversary process. The first
    question in this case is the scope of the Supreme Court’s prec-
    edents on what constitutes a “critical stage.”
    A brief look at the history of the Sixth Amendment pro-
    vides helpful context for understanding the scope of a defend-
    ant’s right to counsel in pretrial proceedings. In United States
    v. Wade, 
    388 U.S. 218
     (1967), the Supreme Court explained:
    The Framers of the Bill of Rights envisaged a
    broader role for counsel than under the practice
    then prevailing in England of merely advising
    his client in ‘matters of law,’ and eschewing any
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    responsibility for ‘matters of fact.’ The constitu-
    tions in at least 11 of the 13 States expressly or
    impliedly abolished this distinction. Powell v.
    State of Alabama, 
    287 U.S. 45
    , 60–65; Note, 
    73 Yale L.J. 1000
    , 1030–1033 (1964). ‘Though the colonial
    provisions about counsel were in accord on few
    things, they agreed on the necessity of abolish-
    ing the facts-law distinction; the colonists ap-
    preciated that if a defendant were forced to
    stand alone against the state, his case was fore-
    doomed.’ 73 Yale L.J., supra, at 1033–1034. This
    background is reflected in the scope given by
    our decisions to the Sixth Amendment’s guaran-
    tee to an accused of the assistance of counsel for
    his defense. When the Bill of Rights was
    adopted, there were no organized police forces
    as we know them today. The accused con-
    fronted the prosecutor and the witnesses
    against him, and the evidence was marshalled,
    largely at the trial itself. In contrast, today’s law
    enforcement machinery involves critical con-
    frontations of the accused by the prosecution at
    pretrial proceedings where the results might
    well settle the accused's fate and reduce the trial
    itself to a mere formality. In recognition of these
    realities of modern criminal prosecution, our
    cases have construed the Sixth Amendment
    guarantee to apply to ‘critical’ stages of the pro-
    ceedings. The guarantee reads: ‘In all criminal
    prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
    * * * to have the Assistance of Counsel for his de-
    fence.’ (Emphasis supplied.) The plain wording of
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    this guarantee thus encompasses counsel's assis-
    tance whenever necessary to assure a meaningful
    ‘defence.’
    
    388 U.S. at
    224–25 (footnotes omitted, emphasis added).
    The Court has identified two historical reasons for the
    right to counsel. First was the development of an “intricate
    procedural system.” United States v. Ash, 
    413 U.S. 300
    , 307
    (1973). As the Court explained:
    A concern of more lasting importance was the
    recognition and awareness that an unaided lay-
    man had little skill in arguing the law or in cop-
    ing with an intricate procedural system. The
    function of counsel as a guide through complex
    legal technicalities long has been recognized by
    this Court. […] The Court frequently has inter-
    preted the Sixth Amendment to assure that the
    ‘guiding hand of counsel’ is available to those in
    need of its assistance.
    
    Id.
     at 307–08. Second was the development of the public pros-
    ecutor: “Another factor contributing to the colonial recogni-
    tion of the accused’s right to counsel was the adoption of the
    institution of the public prosecutor from the Continental in-
    quisitorial system.” 
    Id. at 308
    . “Thus, an additional motivation
    for the American rule” that a criminal defendant is entitled to
    counsel “was a desire to minimize imbalance in the adversary
    system that otherwise resulted with the creation of a profes-
    sional prosecuting official.” 
    Id. at 309
    . An uncounseled de-
    fendant could not be expected to argue his case, navigate the
    rules of evidence, or articulate his defenses with the same skill
    as an “expert adversary,” the prosecutor. 
    Id. at 310
    .
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    Over time, the same became true of various pretrial steps
    in prosecutions. With increasing frequency, defendants con-
    fronted issues before trial that previously would have sur-
    faced at trial—issues like articulating defenses or disputing
    the admissibility of evidence. With the history of the Sixth
    Amendment in mind, the Court has repeatedly applied the
    right to counsel to these critical confrontations “that might ap-
    propriately be considered to be parts of the trial itself,” that
    is, steps when “the accused was confronted, just as at trial, by
    the procedural system, or by his expert adversary, or by both.”
    
    Id. at 310
    . The Court has called these confrontations “critical
    stages.” See, e.g., Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 224
    ; Hamilton v. Alabama,
    
    368 U.S. 52
    , 53–54 (1961).
    It is clearly established that criminal defendants are enti-
    tled to counsel at all critical stages of the criminal process, and
    the case law on which stages are critical is extensive. The State
    relies here on Carey v. Musladin, 
    549 U.S. 70
     (2006), which ex-
    plained that “clearly established Federal law” under
    § 2254(d)(1) includes only the Supreme Court’s holdings, not
    its dicta. Id. at 74. In Carey, the Court rejected a Ninth Circuit
    decision for reading Supreme Court precedent at too high a
    level of generality. Id. at 75–76. Wisconsin uses Carey to argue
    that no clearly established federal law applies to this case be-
    cause the Supreme Court has not held that a hearing like the
    extraordinary ex parte, in camera hearing here is a critical stage.
    AEDPA deference does not go so far. A few months after
    deciding Carey, the Court clarified that AEDPA does not re-
    quire “federal courts to wait for some nearly identical factual
    pattern” before granting relief. Panetti v. Quarterman, 
    551 U.S. 930
    , 953 (2007), quoting Carey, 
    549 U.S. at 81
     (Kennedy, J., con-
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    curring in judgment); see also Williams, 
    529 U.S. at 407
     (hold-
    ing that state courts can unreasonably apply clearly estab-
    lished federal law to facts the Supreme Court has not consid-
    ered). “Nor does AEDPA prohibit a federal court from finding
    an application of a principle unreasonable when it involves a
    set of facts ‘different from those of the case in which the prin-
    ciple was announced.’” Panetti, 
    551 U.S. at 953
    , quoting Lock-
    yer v. Andrade, 
    538 U.S. 63
    , 76 (2003).
    What matters here is what the Supreme Court has done
    and what it has said in deciding its many “critical stage”
    cases, which we address next. Also, it is not surprising that
    the Supreme Court has not considered an ex parte, in camera
    hearing on a substantive issue quite like this one. “The very
    premise of our adversary system of criminal justice is that par-
    tisan advocacy on both sides of a case will best promote the
    ultimate objective that the guilty be convicted and the inno-
    cent go free.” United States v. Cronic, 
    466 U.S. 648
    , 655 (1984),
    quoting Herring v. New York, 
    422 U.S. 853
    , 862 (1975). In this
    case the trial court improvised an unprecedented procedure
    that both abandoned that “very premise of our adversary sys-
    tem of criminal justice” to question the defendant directly and
    prohibited defense counsel from participating. While trial
    judges have discretion to question witnesses directly, this in-
    quisitorial procedure in which defense counsel is silenced is
    not compatible with the American judicial system. See Wil-
    liams v. Wahner, 
    731 F.3d 731
    , 732–33 (7th Cir. 2013) (declaring
    unlawful a federal judge’s practice of questioning prisoner-
    plaintiff in ex parte hearing to decide material factual disputes
    against the plaintiff, and comparing procedure to inquisitorial
    procedures from European legal systems). As the Herring
    Court explained further: “the right to the assistance of counsel
    has been understood to mean that there can be no restrictions
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    upon the function of counsel in defending a criminal prosecu-
    tion in accord with the traditions of the adversary factfinding
    process that has been constitutionalized in the Sixth and Four-
    teenth Amendments.” 
    422 U.S. at 857
    , quoted in Cronic, 
    466 U.S. at
    656 n.15.3
    1. Confrontation
    Turning first to what the Court has actually done, as the
    State conceded at oral argument, the Court has treated as a
    “critical stage” every stage of the criminal process between
    arraignment and appeal that addresses a substantive issue or
    risks loss of procedural rights. As examples, the Court has rec-
    ognized the following as critical stages: a preliminary hearing
    at which defendant could cross-examine witnesses and other-
    wise test the evidence against him; arraignments at which de-
    fenses must be asserted; entry of a plea; pretrial identification
    3  By “inquisitorial,” we “don’t mean it was modeled on the proce-
    dures employed by the Inquisition.” Henderson v. Wilcoxen, 
    802 F.3d 930
    ,
    931 (7th Cir. 2015). We refer to the “system of proof-taking used in civil
    law, whereby the judge conducts the trial, determines what questions to
    ask, and defines the scope and the extent of the inquiry.” Inquisitorial Sys-
    tem, Black’s Law Dictionary (10th ed. 2014). As the Supreme Court has ex-
    plained: “What makes a system adversarial rather than inquisitorial is not
    the presence of counsel … but rather the presence of a judge who does not
    (as an inquisitor does) conduct the factual and legal investigation himself,
    but instead decides on the basis of facts and arguments pro and con ad-
    duced by the parties.” McNeil v. Wisconsin, 
    501 U.S. 171
    , 181 n.2 (1991).
    Although many countries continue to use inquisitorial systems of fact-
    finding, our Constitution establishes an adversarial system. Cf. Henderson,
    802 F.3d at 931 (“In modern usage an inquisitorial hearing is a hearing in
    open court in which the judge examines the parties to the suit rather than
    leaving examination to the lawyers, as in our legal system, which is adver-
    sarial rather than inquisitorial.”).
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    through an in-person line-up; pretrial interrogation by a gov-
    ernment informant; sentencing hearings; and deferred sen-
    tencing hearings that revoke probation. See Coleman v. Ala-
    bama, 
    399 U.S. 1
    , 9 (1970) (plurality); 
    id. at 11
     (Black, J., concur-
    ring) (preliminary hearing where defendant could test evi-
    dence to avoid indictment and build record for trial); Hamil-
    ton, 
    368 U.S. at 54
     (arraignment where defenses can be “irre-
    trievably lost, if not then and there asserted”); White v. Mary-
    land, 
    373 U.S. 59
    , 60 (1963) (entry of plea); Moore v. Michigan,
    
    355 U.S. 155
    , 156, 159 (1957) (entry of plea); Wade, 
    388 U.S. at
    236–37 (pretrial in-person identification); Massiah v. United
    States, 
    377 U.S. 201
    , 206 (1964) (pretrial interrogation); Town-
    send v. Burke, 
    334 U.S. 736
    , 740–41 (1948) (sentencing); Mempa
    v. Rhay, 
    389 U.S. 128
    , 137 (1967) (deferred sentencing and rev-
    ocation of probation).
    The sheer number and range of these cases show that the
    right to counsel at “critical stages” is not narrow and fact-
    bound. The Court has explained its decisions by focusing on
    the consequences of the particular stage, and in particular on
    consequences for the defendant’s ability to receive a fair trial.
    In Wade, the Court summarized:
    In sum, the principle of Powell v. Alabama
    and succeeding cases requires that we scrutinize
    any pretrial confrontation of the accused to de-
    termine whether the presence of his counsel is
    necessary to preserve the defendant’s basic right
    to a fair trial as affected by his right meaning-
    fully to cross-examine the witnesses against him
    and to have effective assistance of counsel at the
    trial itself. It calls upon us to analyze whether
    potential substantial prejudice to defendant’s
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    rights inheres in the particular confrontation
    and the ability of counsel to help avoid that prej-
    udice.
    Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 227
    . In Mempa v. Rhay, the Court summa-
    rized its precedents as “clearly stand[ing] for the proposition
    that” counsel is “required at every stage of a criminal pro-
    ceeding where substantial rights of a criminal accused may be
    affected.” 
    389 U.S. at 134
    . In Coleman v. Alabama, the Court
    quoted the above passage from Wade and referred to it as a
    “test” that the Court had consistently applied throughout its
    critical-stage precedents. 
    399 U.S. at 8
    . And in Ash, the Court
    stated that its “review of the history and expansion of the
    Sixth Amendment counsel guarantee” demonstrated “that
    the test utilized by the Court has called for examination of the
    event in order to determine whether the accused required aid
    in coping with legal problems or assistance in meeting his ad-
    versary.” 
    413 U.S. at 313
    .
    It is true that many of the Court’s “critical-stage” cases ad-
    dress direct confrontations between the defendant and the
    professional prosecutor, and that the prosecutor was not in
    the room for the hearing at issue in this case. See, e.g., Cole-
    man, 
    399 U.S. at 9
     (preliminary hearing where defendant
    could test prosecutor’s evidence before trial); Mempa, 
    389 U.S. at 137
     (deferred sentencing hearing where prosecutor argued
    for revocation of probation). That is typically how proceed-
    ings are held when the rules of adversarial proceedings are
    followed, but the Supreme Court’s clearly established prece-
    dent is not limited to adversarial confrontations where the
    prosecution and/or police are literally in the room with the
    accused. We cannot imagine that the Supreme Court would
    tolerate a procedure in which the trial judge, without a valid
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    waiver of the right to counsel, took the defendant alone into
    chambers for questioning on the record on any substantive is-
    sue. The result is no different here, where the lawyer was
    physically present but prohibited from speaking or otherwise
    participating.
    First, in Estelle v. Smith, 
    451 U.S. 454
     (1981), the Court held
    that a trial judge had violated the accused’s right to counsel in
    a non-adversarial setting where the prosecutor was absent.
    The judge “informally ordered” a psychiatrist to examine the
    accused to determine competency to stand trial. 
    Id.
     at 456–57,
    457 n.1. The defendant was found competent to stand trial
    and then found guilty at trial. At the penalty phase of the trial,
    the judge then allowed the state to offer the contents of the
    interview and the psychiatrist’s opinion to prove future dan-
    gerousness. The defense lawyer had not been notified in ad-
    vance that the psychiatric examination would take place, let
    alone that it would include the issue of future dangerousness.
    
    Id.
     at 470–71, 471 n.15. The accused did not have his assistance
    in deciding whether to submit to the examination. 
    Id. at 471
    .
    The Supreme Court held (unanimously) that the judge’s non-
    adversarial decision to order the psychiatric interview—with
    only the accused and the psychiatrist present—was a critical
    stage of the proceedings and that the accused had a right to a
    lawyer in deciding whether to submit to it. 
    Id.
     at 470–71. 4 Crit-
    ically, the Court held that the defendant was entitled to coun-
    sel’s advice before the interview itself, because it “follows log-
    ically” from the Court’s “precedents that a defendant should
    not be forced to resolve such an important issue ‘without the
    4
    The Court did not hold that the accused had a right to have his law-
    yer present for the examination itself, but he had a right to the advice of
    counsel in deciding whether to submit to it. 
    451 U.S. at
    470 n.14.
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    guiding hand of counsel.’” 
    Id. at 471
    , quoting Powell, 
    287 U.S. at 69
    . Resolving that issue—whether to submit to the evalua-
    tion—did not involve an in-person confrontation with the
    prosecutor, the police, or any other agent of the state.
    Similarly, in Geders v. United States, the Court found that
    the defendant’s right to counsel had been violated when, dur-
    ing trial, the judge ordered the defendant not to consult with
    his attorney during an overnight recess. 
    425 U.S. 80
    , 81 (1970).
    The trial itself, of course, is a stage in the criminal process
    where the defendant has a right to counsel (and the Court
    therefore did not need to engage in a critical-stage analysis).
    But the overnight recess was not a formal part of the trial pro-
    ceedings and did not occur in the courtroom or in the prose-
    cutor’s presence. Yet the defendant did not lose his right to
    counsel when he left the courtroom and the traditionally ad-
    versarial setting. He required his counsel’s guidance over-
    night to make tactical decisions in light of the proceedings
    against him. 
    Id.
     at 88–89, 91. Importantly, the Court did not
    analyze the overnight recess as a separate stage that may or
    may not be critical by itself. Underlying both Smith and Geders
    is the recognition that the accused needs and is entitled to the
    assistance of counsel in making choices throughout the pros-
    ecution, regardless of whether the precise moment in ques-
    tion is “adversarial” in the sense that the professional prose-
    cution or police are literally in the room at the time.
    More generally, the Court has repeatedly applied the “crit-
    ical stage” analysis by focusing on the consequences the ac-
    cused faces in the particular stage of the case, not necessarily
    on whether the prosecution or police are in the room. That is
    clear from the critical “or” in Ash: “This review of the history
    and expansion of the Sixth Amendment counsel guarantee
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    demonstrates that the test utilized by the Court has called for
    examination of the event in order to determine whether the
    accused required aid in coping with legal problems or assis-
    tance in meeting his adversary.” 
    413 U.S. at 313
     (emphasis
    added).
    Confirming the importance of that “or” in Ash, the Court
    has recognized as critical stages several proceedings that re-
    quire defendants to make procedural decisions. In those
    cases, it was the defendant’s inability to cope with the proce-
    dural system—not any face-to-face confrontation with the
    prosecutor—that drove the Court’s holdings. See, e.g., Hamil-
    ton, 
    368 U.S. 52
     (finding Alabama arraignment a critical stage
    because the defendant had to assert or forfeit defenses, with-
    out any mention of prosecutor or contested issues); White, 
    373 U.S. 59
     (finding Maryland preliminary hearing a critical stage
    because defendant had to enter a plea, without any mention
    of prosecutor or contested issues); Smith, 
    451 U.S. 454
     (finding
    decision to submit to psychiatric evaluation on competence to
    stand trial a critical stage, without any mention of prosecutor
    or contested issues).
    And this makes sense. When a defendant confronts a
    purely procedural question—even outside of the courtroom
    and outside of the prosecutor’s presence—he does so in re-
    sponse to the adversary proceedings that the prosecution has
    brought against him. One motivation for the right to counsel
    “was a desire to minimize the imbalance in the adversary sys-
    tem,” which recognizes that a layperson does not have the
    same skill or knowledge necessary to navigate the law. Ash,
    
    413 U.S. at 309
     (emphasis added). After all, requiring an un-
    counseled defendant to make a consequential procedural de-
    cision can easily undermine the desired balance between the
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    prosecutor and the accused, prejudice the defense, and reduce
    “the trial itself to a mere formality.” Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 224
     (ex-
    plaining that goal of right to counsel at critical stages is to pre-
    serve the integrity of the trial).
    By looking both at what the Supreme Court has done and
    at what it has said, it is clear that an evidentiary hearing on a
    contested substantive issue is a critical stage of the proceed-
    ings. There is no reason to think the result is different when
    the judge moves half of the hearing into chambers and elicits,
    through the judge’s own questioning, the defendant’s rebuttal
    to the prosecutor’s opposition. Against the weight of the
    many cases finding pretrial stages were critical as long as the
    accused might face serious consequences affecting the fair-
    ness of the trial, the State has not identified any Supreme
    Court case even suggesting, let alone holding, that a hearing
    comparable to the one in this case was not a critical stage.
    The Court has found stages not critical only when they are
    non-adversarial and there is no risk that an accused might
    make mistakes that a lawyer cannot cure before or at trial. In
    Ash itself, for example, the Court distinguished between an
    eyewitness identification by in-person lineup, which Wade
    held is a critical stage, and a witness’s identification by look-
    ing at a photographic array, which is not. 
    413 U.S. at 317
    . At a
    line-up, the defendant is present and confronts either law en-
    forcement or the prosecutor. Without counsel’s observation
    and guidance, “there is a grave potential for prejudice” be-
    cause the uncounseled defendant is unable to identify a sug-
    gestive procedure and unlikely to be able to reconstruct a bi-
    ased procedure at trial. Wade, 
    388 U.S. at
    230–32, 236. A pho-
    tographic array, by comparison, is only non-adversarial gath-
    ering of evidence outside of the defendant’s presence. There
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    is “no possibility” that “the accused might be misled by his
    lack of familiarity with the law or overpowered by his profes-
    sional adversary.” Ash, 
    413 U.S. at 317
    . The Court reached a
    similar conclusion in Gerstein v. Pugh when it found that the
    probable cause determination, by itself, is not a critical stage.
    
    420 U.S. 103
    , 120, 122 (1975). Probable cause is typically de-
    cided “by a magistrate in a nonadversary proceeding on hear-
    say and written testimony.” 
    Id. at 120
    . It does not require the
    defendant’s participation and its outcome cannot “impair de-
    fense on the merits.” 
    Id. at 122
    .
    The Supreme Court has clearly established that the right
    to counsel extends to a pretrial evidentiary hearing on a con-
    tested, substantive issue, where an uncounseled defendant
    risks decisive consequences for his prospects at trial. E.g.,
    Coleman, 
    399 U.S. at 9
     (plurality); 
    id. at 11
     (Black, J., concur-
    ring); Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 227
    , 236–37. In this case, the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals correctly recognized the general rule that
    the Sixth Amendment guarantees counsel at all critical stages.
    But the court strayed in finding that the ex parte hearing was
    not a critical stage in Schmidt’s case.
    The state court’s observation that the ex parte, in camera
    proceeding was not adversarial, in the sense that the prosecu-
    tor was not in the room, thus missed the point. It unreason-
    ably applied Supreme Court precedent and, frankly, ignored
    reality in favor of a formalism that the Court has not adopted.
    The ex parte, in camera hearing was not a distinct stage in
    Schmidt’s case. It was part of the evidentiary hearing the court
    held to address a substantive issue—the mitigating defense of
    adequate provocation. That defense was certainly contested.
    That is precisely why the judge held the hearing: to determine
    whether the prosecution or defense had the better arguments
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    on the adequate provocation defense. The prosecution op-
    posed admission of the evidence related to the defense, while
    Schmidt argued that he had met the threshold showing for
    admissibility. Schmidt presented part of his side of the case in
    the judge’s chambers, but that fact makes no difference given
    what the Supreme Court has held to be critical stages. There
    is no question that the overall hearing was an adversary pro-
    ceeding. Nothing in the Supreme Court’s extensive critical-
    stage jurisprudence suggests that the hearing became any less
    critical, or any less of a “trial-like confrontation,” when the
    judge took the accused and his (silenced) lawyer into cham-
    bers to question him about the facts supporting the defense.
    In addition to confronting the prosecutor’s substantive ar-
    guments on the disputed provocation defense, Schmidt
    needed to navigate the “complex legal technicalities” of the
    “intricate procedural system.” Ash, 
    413 U.S. at 307
    . He needed
    to meet the burden of production that Wisconsin requires for
    affirmative defenses like adequate provocation: the “some ev-
    idence” threshold. If he met that burden at trial, the prosecu-
    tor would bear the burden of persuasion and would have to
    disprove the defense beyond a reasonable doubt. To show be-
    fore trial that he had “some evidence” of adequate provoca-
    tion, Schmidt needed to reveal only his best evidence. These
    are not procedural concepts that a layperson—especially one
    whose own fate is at stake—is likely to understand, let alone
    execute. The transcript in this case shows as much. Schmidt’s
    lack of understanding about the burden of production caused
    him to disclose too much at this stage. In effect, Schmidt did
    the prosecutor’s job for her and converted the ex parte, in cam-
    era hearing into a mini-trial on the merits of his defense.
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    In sum, in this hearing conducted without his counsel’s
    participation, Schmidt not only confronted a complex sub-
    stantive and procedural question; he was also forced to de-
    fend his position on the meaning of the procedural rule after
    the prosecutor challenged him. This was a critical stage—in
    this case, actually the most critical stage—of this prosecution.
    The accused’s right to counsel in this inquisitorial hearing did
    not depend on whether the prosecutor was in the room, or on
    whether the judge’s tone of voice and phrasing of questions
    were gentle or hostile. What mattered, under clearly estab-
    lished Supreme Court precedent, is that Schmidt was con-
    fronting the complex machinery of the criminal justice pro-
    cess on the most critical, disputed, and substantive issue in
    the case.
    2. Potential for Prejudice
    For a pretrial confrontation to be a critical stage, it must
    also have the potential to prejudice the defendant and there-
    fore undermine the integrity of the trial. Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 227
    .
    The ex parte, in camera hearing had the potential to prejudice
    Schmidt substantially. The state court’s conclusion to the con-
    trary was unreasonable. “Fatal to Schmidt’s argument,” the
    Wisconsin court reasoned, the hearing was “supplemental”
    and “Schmidt had already submitted written offers of proof”
    in support of his defense. The logic of that rationalization for
    denying Schmidt assistance of counsel flies in the face of
    clearly established Supreme Court precedent.
    The Sixth Amendment analysis focuses on whether there
    is a potential for prejudice given what or whom the uncoun-
    seled defendant must confront and what counsel could do
    later to fix the defendant’s mistakes. E.g., Ash, 
    413 U.S. at 313
    ,
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    317; Coleman, 
    399 U.S. at 7
     (plurality); 
    id. at 11
     (Black, J., con-
    curring); Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 227
    . In this case, Schmidt was asked
    to meet the burden of production to preserve his most prom-
    ising—indeed, his only—defense in mitigation at trial. In this
    case, no stage was more critical. What happened in chambers
    settled Schmidt’s fate. It reduced “the trial itself to a mere for-
    mality.” See Wade, 
    388 U.S. at 224
    .
    The criminal process is full of pretrial steps that involve
    both written and oral submissions to the court: to name a few,
    motions to suppress evidence; motions challenging venue, ju-
    risdiction, or competency to stand trial; and motions asserting
    selective or vindictive prosecution, or denial of speedy trial
    rights, or discovery disputes. Counsel’s help with the written
    half of the process does not erase the potential for prejudice
    in the oral half, let alone justify denying assistance of counsel.
    To our knowledge, the Supreme Court has never held that
    having assistance of counsel in part of a critical stage of the
    prosecution justifies denial of counsel in the rest of it. In this
    case the judge questioned Schmidt after reviewing the written
    offers of proof. If the judge had thought the written offers of
    proof had met the some-evidence threshold, the ex parte, in
    camera questioning would have been unnecessary. What
    Schmidt would say in chambers was critical.
    Even if Schmidt had met the some-evidence threshold in
    his written offers of proof alone, his unfocused “rambling nar-
    rative” in chambers could have diluted that evidence with de-
    tails harmful to his defense. At that point in the pretrial pro-
    cess, Schmidt did not need to prove adequate provocation. He
    needed to provide “some evidence” of it. Schmidt, 824 N.W.2d
    at 843, citing Head, 648 N.W.2d at 439.
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    The risk was not only that the judge might lose sight of the
    elements of adequate provocation or might fail to separate the
    wheat from the extensive chaff in Schmidt’s rambling an-
    swers, though those are certainly good reasons for needing
    counsel in the hearing. There was also a risk that Schmidt
    would convert the hearing into a mini-trial on the merits of
    his defense rather than a debate about the burden of produc-
    tion. If Schmidt could have just met the burden of produc-
    tion—and only that burden—he would have had the right to
    present his evidence and argue his defense to the jury. And
    the trial judge’s oral ruling suggests that this risk might have
    played out here: “The Court finds that the circumstances that
    led to the death of Kelly Wing did not involve a provocation
    and it was not an adequate provocation and denies the mo-
    tion.” That conclusion sounds more like a decision on the
    merits than a decision on the burden of production.
    Finally, Schmidt’s counsel could not fix later the harm
    done by Schmidt’s answers. The trial court silenced counsel in
    the ex parte hearing and ruled on the defense shortly after
    questioning Schmidt. Because counsel could not later undo
    the harm to Schmidt, the risk of prejudice at the evidentiary
    hearing infected his trial.
    3. Role of Counsel
    The last factor in the critical-stage analysis is whether
    counsel could have helped Schmidt avoid prejudice at the
    hearing. There can be no doubt that Schmidt would have ben-
    efited from his attorney’s help at the hearing. It is a basic tenet
    of constitutional law that an accused has a right to counsel
    when he is in custody or after formal proceedings have begun
    against him because of the risk that he will inadvertently
    harm his defense. See Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    , 466
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    (1966) (Sixth Amendment guarantees right to counsel at po-
    lice interrogation to protect defendant against self-incrimina-
    tion); Massiah, 
    377 U.S. at 206
     (same in interrogation by gov-
    ernment informant). The dangers to Schmidt and the oppor-
    tunity for his counsel to help him are both evident here.
    In Ferguson v. Georgia, 
    365 U.S. 570
    , 594–96 (1961), the Su-
    preme Court explained the need for counsel in a context very
    close to this case. At that time, Georgia prohibited the accused
    from testifying in his own defense. State law allowed the ac-
    cused to make an unsworn statement to the jury, but he ordi-
    narily had to do so without questioning by his counsel to
    guide him. The Court held that the defendant had a right to
    have his counsel question him to elicit his statement. In ex-
    plaining this conclusion, the Court quoted Chief Justice Coo-
    ley, the nineteenth-century jurist from Michigan, in a lengthy
    passage that fits Schmidt’s case well:
    But to hold that the moment the defendant
    is placed upon the stand he shall be debarred of
    all assistance from his counsel, and left to go
    through his statement as his fears or his embar-
    rassment may enable him, in the face of the con-
    sequences which may follow from imperfect or
    unsatisfactory explanation, would in our opin-
    ion be to make, what the statute designed as an
    important privilege to the accused, a trap into
    which none but the most cool and self-pos-
    sessed could place himself with much prospect
    of coming out unharmed. An innocent man,
    charged with a heinous offence, and against
    whom evidence of guilt has been given, is much
    more likely to be overwhelmed by his situation,
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    and embarrassed, when called upon for expla-
    nation, than the offender, who is hardened in
    guilt; and if he is unlearned, unaccustomed to speak
    in public assemblies, or to put together his thoughts
    in consecutive order any where, it will not be sur-
    prising if his explanation is incoherent, or if it over-
    looks important circumstances.
    
    365 U.S. at
    595–96 (emphasis added), quoting Annis v. People,
    
    13 Mich. 511
    , 519–20 (1865) (reversing conviction where trial
    judge had not allowed defense counsel to remind defendant
    he had omitted a material fact from his statement).
    Schmidt was not innocent, but the subject of the ex parte,
    in camera hearing was his only theory of mitigation. And what
    Ferguson described with the quotation from Annis is just what
    happened here. Without the guidance of counsel’s question-
    ing, Schmidt provided an incoherent account of the circum-
    stances that might have supported his defense in mitigation.
    (Recall that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals said it was “a
    close question” whether Schmidt had produced “some evi-
    dence” sufficient to present a triable defense of adequate
    provocation.) Counsel could have helped him organize the
    facts, present a coherent and legally relevant response, and
    meet the burden of production. Without counsel acting in that
    role, “a serious risk of injustice infects the trial itself.” Cronic,
    
    466 U.S. at 656
    , quoting Cuyler v. Sullivan, 
    446 U.S. 335
    , 343
    (1980).
    B. Assistance of Counsel at the Hearing
    Because the hearing was a critical stage in Schmidt’s case,
    the next question is whether Schmidt received the assistance
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    of counsel during it. The Wisconsin Court of Appeals rea-
    soned that Schmidt’s counsel was present for the ex parte hear-
    ing and could have advised Schmidt and answered any ques-
    tions he had. Under AEDPA, we presume that this was a find-
    ing on the merits. Johnson v. Williams, 
    568 U.S. 289
    , 293 (2013).
    Even assuming AEDPA controls, it is unreasonable to con-
    clude that counsel’s silent (and silenced) presence satisfied the
    Sixth Amendment. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1).
    The Sixth Amendment guarantees the effective assistance
    of counsel, of course. Strickland v. Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 686
    (1984); Cronic, 
    466 U.S. at 654
    ; McMann v. Richardson, 
    397 U.S. 759
    , 771 (1970). The Sixth Amendment is not satisfied when
    “no actual Assistance for the accused’s defence is provided”
    and, as a result, the prosecution’s case is not tested against
    “the crucible of meaningful adversarial testing.” Cronic, 
    466 U.S. at 654, 656
     (internal quotations omitted). Attorneys can
    be constitutionally ineffective either because of their own er-
    rors or because the government interferes with their perfor-
    mance. Strickland, 
    466 U.S. at 687, 692
    ; Cronic, 
    466 U.S. 658
    –60
    (categorizing circumstances when government interference
    with attorney performance violates Sixth Amendment). The
    Supreme Court has held that the government violates the
    Sixth Amendment when it interferes to such an extent that
    “although counsel is available to assist the accused,” the “like-
    lihood that any lawyer, even a fully competent one, could pro-
    vide effective assistance is so small that a presumption of pre-
    judice is appropriate without inquiry into the actual con-
    duct.” Cronic, 466 U.S. at 659–60.
    A long line of Supreme Court cases has applied the rule
    that mere appointment or presence of counsel is insufficient
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    if state action converts counsel’s presence into a sham. In Pow-
    ell v. Alabama, the Court held that “defendants were not ac-
    corded the right of counsel in any substantial sense” when the
    court appointed defense lawyers for the Scottsboro Boys but
    did not give the lawyers adequate time to prepare for trial.
    
    287 U.S. at
    57–58; see also Avery v. Alabama, 
    308 U.S. 444
    , 446
    (1940) (“[T]he denial of opportunity for appointed counsel to
    … prepare his defense, could convert the appointment of
    counsel into a sham and nothing more than a formal compli-
    ance with the Constitution’s requirement.”). In Ferguson, as
    noted, the Court found unconstitutional a rule that prohibited
    defense counsel—though present at trial—from directly ex-
    amining a defendant who chose to speak in his own defense.
    
    365 U.S. at 596
    . In Geders, the Court found that “an order pre-
    venting petitioner from consulting his counsel ‘about any-
    thing’” overnight during trial “impinged upon his right to the
    assistance of counsel.” 425 U.S. at 91. And in Holloway v. Ar-
    kansas, the Court found that the “mere physical presence of an
    attorney does not fulfill the Sixth Amendment guarantee”
    when the state refused to appoint counsel free of conflicts of
    interest and “the advocate’s conflicting obligations … effec-
    tively sealed his lips on crucial matters.” 
    435 U.S. 475
    , 490
    (1978). Thus, the Court has “uniformly found constitutional
    error” when counsel was “either totally absent, or prevented
    from assisting the accused during a critical stage.” Cronic, 
    466 U.S. at
    659 n.25 (emphasis added).
    Even comparatively modest government interference with
    the attorney’s ability to exercise judgment can render counsel
    ineffective and violate the Sixth Amendment. See Herring, 
    422 U.S. at 863, 865
     (state violated Sixth Amendment by barring
    defense attorney from giving closing summation in bench
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    trial); Brooks v. Tennessee, 
    406 U.S. 605
    , 612–13 (1972) (state vi-
    olated Sixth Amendment by requiring that defendant who
    chose to testify be the first witness). The Court summarized
    its precedent in Strickland:
    That a person who happens to be a lawyer is
    present at trial alongside the accused, however,
    is not enough to satisfy the constitutional com-
    mand. The Sixth Amendment recognizes the
    right to the assistance of counsel because it en-
    visions counsel’s playing a role that is critical to
    the ability of the adversarial system to produce
    just results. An accused is entitled to be assisted
    by an attorney, whether retained or appointed,
    who plays the role necessary to ensure that the
    trial is fair. For that reason, the Court has recog-
    nized that the right to counsel is the right to ef-
    fective assistance of counsel.
    466 U.S. at 685–86 (collecting cases; internal quotations omit-
    ted).
    In this case, Schmidt’s counsel was, in the trial judge’s own
    words, “just … present” and “not saying anything” during
    the ex parte hearing. The state thus prevented Schmidt’s coun-
    sel from performing the “role that is critical to the ability of
    the adversarial system to produce just results.” Strickland, 
    466 U.S. at 685
    . Schmidt’s counsel was not allowed to speak while
    the court questioned his client on the most important issue in
    his defense. It was objectively unreasonable for the state court
    to conclude that Schmidt’s counsel could have provided effec-
    tive assistance and meaningfully tested the arguments against
    the provocation defense by “not saying anything.” See Cronic,
    
    466 U.S. at 656
    , citing Anders v. California, 
    386 U.S. 738
    , 743
    32                                                   No. 17-1727
    (1967) (summarizing Supreme Court precedent requiring
    counsel acting as an advocate).
    In this appeal, the State echoes the state court’s suggestion
    that Schmidt’s counsel “could have objected” during the hear-
    ing and was “functionally present” to help Schmidt. We find
    no factual support for these statements. The trial judge told
    Schmidt—and assured the prosecutor—that Schmidt’s coun-
    sel would not say anything during the hearing. Once in cham-
    bers, the judge reiterated that Schmidt’s counsel was not to
    participate. And throughout the ex parte hearing, Schmidt
    spoke uninterrupted by his counsel for long enough to fill
    thirty-five transcript pages. The judge addressed Schmidt di-
    rectly, not his counsel. Given the judge’s ground rules for the
    hearing, there is no basis for the conclusion that counsel could
    have objected or advised Schmidt. Doing so would have
    amounted to contempt of court.
    The State also argues that Schmidt could have cured any
    prejudice by supplementing his offers of proof after the ex
    parte hearing. The State points to an earlier pretrial hearing
    when the court announced that it would hold the hearing on
    the provocation defense and might allow Schmidt to supple-
    ment the record “if the Court is not satisfied” at “the end of
    that” hearing. There are three major flaws in this argument.
    First, the accused is entitled to the assistance of counsel dur-
    ing the entirety of a critical stage, not just part of it. Second,
    and more specifically, Schmidt needed counsel’s help in con-
    fronting the burden of production on a complex factual and
    legal defense. The prejudice he suffered came from disclosing
    irrelevant details and diluting the evidence that could support
    his defense. Any hypothetical opportunity to supplement the
    record later would not have reversed the damage to Schmidt’s
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    case or satisfied Schmidt’s right to counsel during the critical
    hearing itself.
    Third, again, the factual record does not support the
    State’s argument. The trial court ruled on the provocation de-
    fense immediately after the ex parte proceeding. When
    Schmidt’s counsel mentioned supplementing the record a
    month later, the judge replied that he had already “ruled on”
    the defense.
    The State also points out that Schmidt’s counsel did not
    object to the judge’s ground rules that required counsel to re-
    main silent during the ex parte hearing. (Schmidt’s counsel did
    object to holding the hearing at all, and to the judge’s plan to
    question Schmidt himself, but on Fifth Amendment grounds.)
    The absence of a Sixth Amendment objection does not matter
    here. The accused himself may waive the right to counsel,
    whether for the entire case or for a particular stage of the pro-
    ceeding, but any waiver must be knowing and intelligent.
    E.g., Brewer v. Williams, 
    430 U.S. 387
    , 404 (1977) (state must
    prove “intentional relinquishment or abandonment of a
    known right or privilege” to show waiver of right to counsel
    at critical stage). There is also a strong presumption against
    waiver of constitutional rights that preserve a fair trial. Id.;
    Schneckloth v. Bustamonte, 
    412 U.S. 218
    , 237–38 (1973). There is
    no indication in this record that Schmidt knew he had a right
    to effective assistance of counsel in the highly unusual ex
    parte, in camera hearing, let alone that he knew the judge’s
    ground rules would deny him that right or that he agreed to
    waive the right.
    Finally, the State points to the brief recess late in the hear-
    ing when the judge made a telephone call. Counsel asked if
    he might speak to his client during the short recess. The judge
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    said only that counsel could review the written offer of proof
    summarizing Schmidt’s intended defense. This limited oppor-
    tunity for a brief talk with counsel was not enough to satisfy
    the Sixth Amendment “in any substantial sense,” and to con-
    clude otherwise “would simply be to ignore actualities.” Pow-
    ell, 
    287 U.S. at 58
    . As the Supreme Court has observed, the
    “tensions of a trial for an accused with life or liberty at stake
    might alone render him utterly unfit to give his explanation
    properly” when speaking “without the guiding hand of coun-
    sel.” Ferguson, 
    365 U.S. at 594
     (internal quotations and cita-
    tions omitted). Schmidt was never guided while explaining
    his offense and the provocation he claimed. The problems the
    Supreme Court predicted in Ferguson occurred here.
    Schmidt’s answers to the judge’s questions were so unfocused,
    with so much irrelevant and distracting details and side-
    tracks, that the judge asked him the same question six times:
    what was your mental state when you shot your wife? The
    Sixth Amendment guaranteed him more than a silenced at-
    torney listening to his answers.
    When the State denies a defendant counsel at a critical
    stage, prejudice is presumed. E.g., Bell v. Cone, 
    535 U.S. 685
    ,
    695–96 (2002); Cronic, 
    466 U.S. at
    658–59. The district court’s
    judgment is REVERSED and the case is REMANDED with in-
    structions to grant the writ of habeas corpus ordering that
    Schmidt be released or retried promptly, or perhaps, as the
    State suggested in the district court, that the state court mod-
    ify Schmidt’s judgment of conviction to second-degree inten-
    tional homicide and re-sentence him accordingly.
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    BARRETT, Circuit Judge, dissenting. I dissent from the ma-
    jority opinion for three reasons. First, I disagree that clearly
    established Supreme Court precedent dictates the resolution
    of Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment claim. The majority says that
    this ex parte and in camera proceeding was a “critical stage,”
    but the Court’s “critical stage” precedent deals exclusively
    with adversarial confrontations between the defendant and
    an agent of the State. Second, the majority suggests that even
    if the presence of an adversary is necessary, the judge played
    that role. The procedural context and transcript, however,
    provide ample grounds for a fairminded jurist to conclude
    otherwise. Finally, I disagree with the majority that the Wis-
    consin Court of Appeals unreasonably applied federal law in
    deciding that this proceeding did not risk substantial preju-
    dice to Schmidt. The prejudice alleged is that Schmidt’s
    wandering testimony cluttered the record with irrelevant de-
    tails that distracted the judge from Schmidt’s best evidence.
    This proceeding, however, supplemented the defense’s writ-
    ten offer of proof detailing Schmidt’s evidence of adequate
    provocation. A fairminded jurist could conclude that the
    written summary of Schmidt’s evidence kept the judge from
    losing the forest for the trees.
    I.
    Because the Wisconsin Court of Appeals adjudicated
    Schmidt’s Sixth Amendment claim on the merits, the Anti-
    Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (AEDPA)
    prevents us from granting his application for a writ of habe-
    as corpus unless the state court’s decision was “contrary to,
    or involved an unreasonable application of, clearly estab-
    lished Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court of
    the United States.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1). The majority’s de-
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    scription of this case as “unprecedented” and “highly unu-
    sual” gives away the fact that the opinion enters territory
    that the Supreme Court has not broached. Existing Supreme
    Court precedent addresses a defendant’s right to counsel in
    certain adversarial confrontations with a prosecutor, the po-
    lice, or an agent of either. No Supreme Court precedent ad-
    dresses the question presented by this case: whether a de-
    fendant has the right to counsel when testifying before a
    judge in a nonadversarial proceeding. Because there is no
    clearly established Supreme Court precedent for the Wiscon-
    sin Court of Appeals to have unreasonably applied, Schmidt
    cannot satisfy § 2254(d)(1)’s stringent standard for relief.
    A.
    The majority describes Supreme Court precedent as
    “clearly stand[ing] for the proposition that” counsel is “re-
    quired at every stage of a criminal proceeding where sub-
    stantial rights of a criminal accused may be affected.” Major-
    ity Op. at 17 (citing Mempa v. Rhay, 
    389 U.S. 128
    , 134 (1967)).
    That states the rule at too high a level of generality. The
    Court’s “critical stage” precedent deals exclusively with a
    defendant’s right to counsel in adversarial confrontations
    with law enforcement. And the connection between the right
    to counsel and an adversarial confrontation is by no means a
    mere sidelight in the cases; it is central to them.
    The Court has rooted the right to counsel in the need to
    protect the defendant when he faces the prosecuting authori-
    ty. In United States v. Ash, it explained that the right emerged
    alongside the introduction of a “government official whose
    specific function it was to prosecute, and who was incompa-
    rably more familiar than the accused with the problems of
    procedure, the idiosyncrasies of juries, and, last but not least,
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    the personnel of the court.” 
    413 U.S. 300
    , 308 (1973) (citing F.
    Heller, The Sixth Amendment 20–21 (1951)). Consistent with
    this history, the Sixth Amendment was designed “to mini-
    mize imbalance in the adversary system that otherwise re-
    sulted with the creation of a professional prosecuting offi-
    cial.” 
    Id. at 309
    . While the Amendment’s protection is not
    limited to the formal trial, “[t]he Court consistently has ap-
    plied a historical interpretation of the guarantee, and has ex-
    panded the constitutional right to counsel only when new
    contexts appear presenting the same dangers that gave birth
    initially to the right itself.” 
    Id. at 311
    .
    The “new contexts” to which the Court has extended the
    right invariably involve a confrontation between the defend-
    ant and his adversary, be it a prosecutor, the police, or one of
    their agents. For example, in Estelle v. Smith, a psychiatrist
    functioning as an “agent of the State” performed an exami-
    nation of the defendant in his jail cell. 
    451 U.S. 454
    , 467
    (1981). 1 In Coleman v. Alabama, the defendant attended a pre-
    1
    The majority characterizes Estelle as a case in which the Court rec-
    ognized the right to counsel in a non-adversarial proceeding. Majority
    Op. at 18–19. In Estelle, the judge had “informally ordered the State’s at-
    torney to arrange a psychiatric examination of [the defendant] … to de-
    termine [his] competency to stand trial,”
    451 U.S. at
    456–57, and the ma-
    jority asserts that the Court held that “the judge’s non-adversarial deci-
    sion to order the psychiatric interview … was a critical stage of the pro-
    ceedings.” Majority Op. at 18. But it was the examination by the psychia-
    trist, not the decision by the judge, that the Court deemed a “critical
    stage.” 
    451 U.S. at 470
     (“[R]espondent’s Sixth Amendment right to coun-
    sel clearly had attached when Dr. Grigson examined him at the Dallas
    County Jail, and their interview proved to be a ‘critical stage’ of the ag-
    gregate proceedings against the respondent.” (footnote omitted)). And
    the Court left no doubt that the psychiatrist functioned as the defend-
    ant’s adversary. It stressed that the defendant was “faced with a phase of
    38                                                            No. 17-1727
    liminary hearing at which there was an opportunity to cross-
    examine the prosecution’s witnesses, preview the prosecu-
    tor’s case to better prepare for trial, and argue for matters
    such as “the necessity for an early psychiatric examination or
    bail.” 
    399 U.S. 1
    , 9 (1970) (plurality opinion). In United States
    v. Wade, an FBI agent conducted a lineup of Wade and sever-
    al other prisoners. 
    388 U.S. 218
     (1967). In Mempa v. Rhay, the
    defendant was summoned to a hearing at which the prose-
    cutor sought to have his probation revoked and a sentence
    imposed. 
    389 U.S. 128
     (1967). In Massiah v. United States, fed-
    eral agents sent an informant wearing a wire to elicit incrim-
    inating testimony from the defendant after he had already
    been indicted. 
    377 U.S. 201
     (1964). In Escobedo v. Illinois, the
    police interrogated the defendant without counsel despite
    his repeated requests that counsel be present. 
    378 U.S. 478
    (1964). In White v. Maryland, the prosecutor presented a pri-
    ma facie case against the defendant at a preliminary hearing,
    where the defendant pleaded guilty. 
    373 U.S. 59
     (1963) (per
    curiam). 2 In Hamilton v. Alabama, the defendant faced the
    the adversary system” and was “not in the presence of [a] perso[n] acting
    solely in his interest.” Id. at 467 (citations omitted). The psychiatrist as-
    sessed the defendant’s “future dangerousness,” gathering evidence that
    the prosecution used in seeking the death penalty, id. at 467, 471, and he
    then testified against the defendant at trial, “recounting unwarned
    statements made in a postarrest custodial setting.” Id. at 467. Given the
    stakes of submitting to such an interview, the Court held that the de-
    fendant had the right to counsel’s help in deciding whether to do it. Id. at
    470.
    2
    The brief per curiam opinion is short on details, but the petitioner’s
    brief explains that at a preliminary hearing in Maryland, “the defendant
    may be called upon by the magistrate to plead guilty or not guilty, and a
    plea of guilty is admissible evidence at the subsequent trial of his case.
    Here, also, the defendant is afforded the first opportunity to be informed
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    prosecutor at arraignment, which was his only opportunity
    to plead insanity, make pleas in abatement, and move to
    quash the indictment based on racial discrimination in the
    composition of the grand jury. 
    368 U.S. 52
     (1961). Although
    these confrontations occurred outside the context of the for-
    mal trial, the Sixth Amendment applied because they “of-
    fered opportunities for prosecuting authorities to take ad-
    vantage of the accused,” or the risk that the accused “might
    be misled by his lack of familiarity with the law.” Ash, 
    413 U.S. at 312, 317
    .3
    of the charges against him, cross-examine State’s witnesses, and begin to
    effectively prepare his defense … [The magistrate’s] sole function at this
    hearing is to determine from the evidence presented by the State’s attor-
    ney whether to hold the accused for the action of the Grand Jury … or
    discharge him.” Petitioner’s Brief at 4, 6.
    3
    The majority relies on Geders v. United States, 
    425 U.S. 80
     (1976), as
    support for the proposition that a proceeding need not be adversarial for
    the right to counsel to apply. See Majority Op. at 19. Geders—which is not
    a “critical stage” case—is inapposite. In Geders, the Court held that the
    trial court violated the defendant’s Sixth Amendment right when it in-
    structed all witnesses, including the defendant, not to discuss the case
    with anyone during an overnight recess in the trial. The case did not pre-
    sent the question whether a particular event (there, the overnight recess)
    is a “critical stage” at which the state must ensure that the defendant is
    either accompanied by counsel or waives his right to be accompanied by
    counsel. It presented the different question whether a trial court can pre-
    vent the defendant from consulting counsel on his own initiative outside
    of the trial. 
    Id. at 88
    . Geders says nothing about the characteristics of a
    “critical stage,” much less suggests that such a stage need not be adver-
    sarial. Nor does Geders stand for the proposition that the start of the ad-
    versarial process—or even the start of trial—marks the beginning of a
    continuous “critical stage.” On the contrary, the Court has indicated that
    a trial may encompass stages that are not critical. See, e.g., Woods v. Don-
    ald, – U.S. –, 
    135 S.Ct. 1372
    , 1377–78 (2015) (per curiam) (reversing the
    40                                                        No. 17-1727
    Ash includes a line that is susceptible to misinterpreta-
    tion. There, the Court said that a stage is critical when “the
    accused was confronted, just as at trial, by the procedural
    system, or by his expert adversary, or by both.” Id. at 310.
    This language could be understood as setting up alternative
    settings—one non-adversarial and the other adversarial—in
    which the right to counsel applies. In context, however, it is
    evident that the Court was explaining why it has extended
    the right of counsel not only to situations in which the de-
    fendant or his witness is questioned by the police or prose-
    cutor (as in post-indictment interrogation of the accused or
    examination at trial), but also to situations in which the
    prosecutor puts the accused to a procedural choice (like en-
    tering a plea or raising a defense). In other words, Ash de-
    scribes two kinds of risks that an accused might face in an
    adversarial setting. It does not describe the right to counsel
    as extending outside of an adversarial proceeding, and the
    Court has not understood it that way.
    To the contrary, the Court has never extended the right
    outside of the adversarial context. And when it has refused
    to extend the right, it has done so on the ground that the
    proceeding was not adversarial. Ash refused to extend the
    right of counsel to a post-indictment photographic display
    precisely because the display involved no confrontation be-
    tween the accused and the prosecuting authority. 
    413 U.S. at 315, 321
    . Similarly, in Gerstein v. Pugh, the Court held that a
    probable cause hearing is not a critical stage “[b]ecause of its
    Sixth Circuit’s grant of habeas relief to a petitioner whose counsel was
    absent during trial testimony about the petitioner’s co-defendants be-
    cause the Court had never held that the presentation of testimony tan-
    gentially related to the defendant was a “critical stage”).
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    limited function and its nonadversary character.” 
    420 U.S. 103
    , 122 (1975). We too have recognized the presence of an
    adversary as a necessary factor for Sixth Amendment protec-
    tion. In United States v. Jackson, 
    886 F.2d 838
    , 844 (7th Cir.
    1989), for example, we held that a defendant’s uncounseled
    interview with a probation officer in the course of the of-
    ficer’s preparation of the presentence report was not a criti-
    cal stage precisely because the “probation officer does not
    have an adversarial role in the sentencing proceedings.” Ra-
    ther than serving as an arm of the prosecutor, “the probation
    officer serves as a neutral information gatherer for the sen-
    tencing judge.” 
    Id.
    B.
    The majority acknowledges that the Court has never ad-
    dressed a claim like Schmidt’s. But it points out that a case
    need not present facts identical to those previously consid-
    ered by the Court for clearly established precedent to govern
    it. The Court has said that a state court acts unreasonably for
    purposes of § 2254(d)(1) if it “refuses to extend [controlling
    Supreme Court precedent] to a new context where it should
    apply.” Williams v. Taylor, 
    529 U.S. 362
    , 407 (2000). The major-
    ity reasons that the Wisconsin trial court’s questioning of
    Schmidt is such a context—not one that the Court has con-
    fronted before, but one to which its “critical stage” precedent
    clearly extends.
    This reasoning only works, however, if the controlling
    precedent is read at the level of generality the majority pro-
    poses—as establishing the right to counsel in any post-
    indictment proceeding in which legal assistance would help
    the accused avoid substantial prejudice. If that is the law,
    then we need to decide whether the state court unreasonably
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    refused to apply it to this new context. But if the precedent is
    read more narrowly—as establishing the right to counsel
    when the accused faces his adversary—then clearly estab-
    lished law does not dictate the outcome. Resolving the Sixth
    Amendment question therefore requires us to decide the
    level of generality at which to read the Supreme Court’s
    precedent.
    Carey v. Musladin answers that question: we track the lev-
    el of generality at which the Court has spoken. 
    549 U.S. 70
    (2006). In Carey, the Court reviewed the Ninth Circuit’s de-
    termination that buttons with the victim’s image worn by
    courtroom spectators had deprived the habeas petitioner of a
    fair trial. The Court had previously held that certain state-
    sponsored practices (like compelling a defendant to wear
    prison clothing at trial) were “inherently prejudicial,” and
    the Ninth Circuit reasoned that the buttons posed a similar
    risk. The Court rejected that reasoning. The Ninth Circuit
    interpreted the Court’s precedent as establishing a general
    rule against courtroom conduct inherently prejudicial to the
    defendant; it should have interpreted the Court’s precedent
    as establishing a more specific rule against state-sponsored
    courtroom conduct inherently prejudicial to the defendant.
    
    Id. at 76
    . The Court emphasized that it “ha[d] never ad-
    dressed a claim that such private-actor courtroom conduct
    was so inherently prejudicial that it deprived a defendant of
    a fair trial.” 
    Id.
     By stating the rule more broadly than the
    Court had, the Ninth Circuit held the state responsible for
    violating law that was not clearly established.
    So here. The Court has never addressed a claim that a
    defendant has a right to counsel in an ex parte and in camera
    proceeding before a judge. Like the Ninth Circuit in Carey,
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    the majority errs by stating the established law at a higher
    level of generality than the Court has. Indeed, the centrality
    of adversarial confrontation to the Court’s “critical stage”
    jurisprudence makes the extraction of a general principle
    from a more specific rule even more evident here than it was
    in Carey.
    To be clear, Carey is not inconsistent with the Court’s ad-
    monition in Williams v. Taylor that a state court acts unrea-
    sonably if it “refuses to extend [controlling Supreme Court
    precedent] to a new context where it should apply.” 
    529 U.S. at 407
    . A state court cannot treat the Court’s clearly estab-
    lished precedent as fact-bound. On the contrary, a state
    court, like a reviewing federal court, must respect the level
    of generality at which the Court has spoken. Just as a federal
    court cannot elevate the level of generality, a state court can-
    not contract it. Thus, a state court would act unreasonably if
    it refused to recognize a defendant’s right to counsel in a
    post-indictment, adversarial proceeding on the ground that
    the proceeding was not exactly the same as those the Court
    has previously addressed. Clearly established law does not
    entitle the defendant to counsel in a laundry list of specific
    proceedings, but in “proceedings between an individual and
    agents of the State … that amount to ‘trial-like confronta-
    tions,’ at which counsel would help the accused ‘in coping
    with legal problems or … meeting his adversary.” Rothgery v.
    Gillespie County, 
    554 U.S. 191
    , 212 n.16 (2008) (citations omit-
    ted). The state court is obliged to follow that rule, even if the
    factual circumstance is new. But under AEDPA, we cannot
    hold the state court accountable for declining to expand the
    rule itself.
    44                                                 No. 17-1727
    Perhaps the right to counsel should extend to a hearing
    like the one the judge conducted in Schmidt’s case. But
    AEDPA precludes us from disturbing a state court’s judg-
    ment on the ground that a state court decided an open ques-
    tion differently than we would—or, for that matter, differ-
    ently than we think the Court would. Because the Court has
    never addressed the question that the Wisconsin Court of
    Appeals faced, there was no clearly established precedent for
    it to flout.
    II.
    The majority does not rely exclusively on an extension of
    the Court’s “critical stage” cases to nonadversarial proceed-
    ings. Its opinion appears to rest on a second rationale: that
    this proceeding was functionally adversarial. While it stops
    short of actually calling the judge the defendant’s “adver-
    sary,” it strongly implies that the judge stood in the shoes of
    the prosecutor. The majority’s reasoning, then, seems to be
    twofold. Clearly established Supreme Court precedent is not
    limited to adversarial proceedings, but in any event, this
    proceeding was functionally adversarial and risked substan-
    tial prejudice to Schmidt. In concluding otherwise, the Wis-
    consin Court of Appeals unreasonably applied clearly estab-
    lished federal law.
    The majority gives too little deference to the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals. A state-court decision is “unreasonable”
    under § 2254(d) if it is “so lacking in justification that there
    was an error well understood and comprehended in existing
    law beyond any possibility for fairminded disagreement.”
    Woods v. Etherton, – U.S. –, 
    136 S. Ct. 1149
    , 1151 (2016) (per
    curiam) (citation and quotation marks omitted); see also Har-
    rington v. Richter, 
    562 U.S. 86
    , 102 (2011) (Section 2254(d)
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    “preserves authority to issue the writ in cases where there is
    no possibility fairminded jurists could disagree that the state
    court’s decision conflicts with this Court’s precedents.”).
    That is a high bar, and Schmidt does not clear it.
    A.
    The majority holds that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals
    unreasonably applied the Court’s “critical stage” jurispru-
    dence when it concluded that the ex parte and in camera pro-
    ceeding was nonadversarial. Given the prosecutor’s absence,
    it was certainly not “adversarial” in the ordinary sense of the
    word—or in the sense that the Court has employed it in the
    cases. In an effort to get around that, the majority character-
    izes the proceeding as “inquisitorial.” If used in its benign
    sense—as referring to the system of proof-taking in civil law
    systems—the word “inquisitorial” by definition means non-
    adversarial. See Majority Op. at 15 n.3. At some points in its
    opinion, the majority concedes that the proceeding was non-
    adversarial and faults it on that ground. See, e.g., Majority
    Op. at 14. (That concession, of course, forecloses the argu-
    ment that the Wisconsin Court of Appeals unreasonably
    characterized the ex parte and in camera hearing as a nonad-
    versarial one.) Elsewhere, however, the majority asserts that
    the proceeding was adversarial. Majority Op. at 22–23. This
    suggests that the majority is using the description “inquisi-
    torial” as it is often deployed in American criminal cases—to
    describe a proceeding in which the accused faces an aggres-
    sive questioner gathering evidence against him. See, e.g., Mil-
    ler v. Fenton, 
    474 U.S. 104
    , 110 (1985); Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    , 442–43 (1966). And while the majority does not at-
    tribute ill will to the judge, it does cast him as Schmidt’s ad-
    versary. Majority Op. at 23 (asserting that the hearing was a
    46                                                No. 17-1727
    “trial-like confrontation” in which “the judge took the ac-
    cused and his (silenced) lawyer into chambers to question
    him about the facts supporting the defense”).
    The transcript, however, contains no suggestion that the
    judge ever functioned as a surrogate prosecutor. His aim was
    not to secure Schmidt’s conviction—or, as specifically rele-
    vant here, to establish that Schmidt was not entitled to raise
    the “adequate provocation” defense. On the contrary, as the
    Wisconsin Court of Appeals observed, the judge conducted
    the proceeding this way for Schmidt’s benefit.
    The hearing grew out of a dispute between the parties
    about when the trial court would decide whether Schmidt
    had sufficient evidence to put the “adequate provocation”
    defense in issue. Schmidt argued that Wisconsin law re-
    quired the court to wait to resolve that question until it in-
    structed the jury; doing it before trial, he insisted, would
    give the prosecution a preview of his case. The State wanted
    the court to rule on the admissibility of Schmidt’s evidence
    before trial; otherwise, it argued, the jury would hear a lita-
    ny of prejudicial evidence about the victim that might not be
    probative of an issue actually in the case. The court agreed
    with the State. It decided—in a ruling that the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals ultimately affirmed—that Wisconsin law
    gave the trial court the discretion to determine before trial
    whether the defendant could carry his burden of production
    on the “adequate provocation” defense.
    While the judge decided to make the evidentiary deter-
    mination before trial, he was sympathetic to Schmidt’s con-
    cern about showing the prosecutor his hand. He proposed
    the ex parte and in camera hearing as a way of addressing that
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    concern. Defense counsel responded as follows to the court’s
    proposal:
    A suggestion that I was going to bring up today is
    that the Court, if you are going to ask for evidence
    from the defendant or evidence that goes to his
    subjective belief for adequate provocation, is that,
    in fact, we would do an ex parte in-camera inspec-
    tion of the Court and the defendant and seal those
    records because I don’t think it would be—it
    should be allowed to the State and should have
    that information prior to trial.
    Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 5. The court want-
    ed defense counsel to accompany Schmidt, but because the
    prosecution was barred from the hearing, the court instruct-
    ed defense counsel to function as an observer only. The pros-
    ecutor agreed to the proceeding on that condition. Had
    Schmidt’s counsel actively participated, the judge would
    have included the prosecutor, and Schmidt wanted the pros-
    ecutor out of the room.
    The majority puts little weight on the prosecutor’s ab-
    sence, because it suggests that the judge filled the prosecu-
    tor’s shoes. 4 The judge, however, spoke very little during the
    4
    The majority also suggests that the ex parte and in camera proceed-
    ing followed on the heels of the prosecutor’s oral argument about why
    Schmidt’s evidence fell short of what was necessary to carry his burden
    of production. Majority Op. at 21. But the judge did not hear arguments
    about the substance of the adequate provocation issue from either side
    before he examined Schmidt. He “entertain[ed] comments from counsel”
    on the procedural questions of whether he could resolve the burden-of-
    production question before trial and whether he could do an in camera
    inspection of Schmidt. Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 2–7.
    48                                                           No. 17-1727
    hearing. Instead, he primarily listened as Schmidt testified
    about his state of mind before he shot his wife. 5 And far
    from positioning himself as Schmidt’s adversary, the judge
    tried to help him by calling a recess so that Schmidt could
    review the written offer of proof with his counsel. 6 The offer
    of proof was a roadmap for Schmidt’s testimony. It contained
    a timeline of the allegedly provocative events, and the judge
    wanted Schmidt to refresh his memory so that he didn’t
    overlook any. Before the recess, he told Schmidt “that you
    might not state all of the things that are in the offer of proof,
    possibly because you … haven’t had an opportunity to re-
    view this.” Transcript of Proceedings at 25. When the hear-
    ing resumed, the judge asked Schmidt how the incidents de-
    scribed in the document might have affected his state of
    mind.
    In retrospect, it may have been better for the judge to de-
    cline Schmidt’s request for an ex parte and in camera hearing.
    There would be no Sixth Amendment question before us if
    The rest of the hearing dealt with various trial-management matters. At
    no point did the prosecutor make an argument about why Schmidt’s ev-
    idence of adequate provocation was insufficient.
    5
    Schmidt, who testified voluntarily, does not argue that the court vi-
    olated his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. As the trial
    court noted “[the pretrial hearing] accelerates what the defendant might
    already say in a trial, but it is the defendant that chooses to present this
    defense.” Transcript of Motion Hearing 2.10.2010 at 4.
    6
    During this recess, the judge permitted defense counsel to confer
    with Schmidt while the judge stepped out to make a phone call. Defense
    counsel asked: “Am I allowed to talk to my client now or not?” The
    judge responded: “It’s off the record. Yeah, you can talk. But he should
    just be reviewing [the offer of proof].” Transcript of Proceedings at 26.
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    the judge had proceeded in the normal course, with both
    lawyers participating. That said, the judge structured the
    hearing as he did in an effort to accommodate Schmidt, and
    the transcript reflects that the judge remained neutral
    throughout it. It was therefore reasonable for the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals to conclude that this was not a trial-like
    confrontation in which Schmidt was entitled to counsel to
    “compensate[] for advantages of the prosecuting authori-
    ties.” Ash, 
    413 U.S. at 314
    .
    B.
    It is not enough for Schmidt to demonstrate that the Wis-
    consin Court of Appeals unreasonably concluded that this
    proceeding was nonadversarial. To secure relief, Schmidt
    must also show that no fairminded judge could conclude
    that this hearing lacked the potential to substantially preju-
    dice him. That is yet another ground on which Schmidt’s ar-
    gument fails.
    According to the majority, “The prejudice [Schmidt] suf-
    fered came from disclosing irrelevant details and diluting
    the evidence that could support his defense.” Majority Op. at
    32. In other words, Schmidt was harmed because his ram-
    bling narrative failed to focus the judge on the evidence
    most helpful to his “adequate provocation” defense. The
    idea that the judge—who knew the legal elements of the ad-
    equate provocation defense—was incapable of separating
    the wheat from the chaff sells the judge short.7 But in any
    7
    The majority also sells the trial judge short with its argument that
    by saying too much, Schmidt risked confusing the judge about whether
    he was supposed to resolve the merits or decide whether Schmidt had
    carried his burden of production on the defense. Majority Op. at 25–26.
    This argument not only underrates the judge (and the court of appeals
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    event, the judge was not left to cull the evidence without in-
    put from defense counsel. As the Wisconsin Court of Ap-
    peals said, the examination of Schmidt was supplementary.
    The judge went into it already having reviewed a legal anal-
    ysis of the adequate provocation defense; a detailed timeline
    of the relevant events; the summarized testimony of 29 wit-
    nesses who observed his wife’s allegedly provocative behav-
    ior; a hotel reservation that Schmidt discovered shortly be-
    fore the shooting and took as evidence of his wife’s infideli-
    ty; and a copy of a statement that Schmidt gave police at the
    scene that detailed some of what was in his mind when he
    shot his wife. So even if Schmidt’s testimony cluttered the
    record with irrelevant details, the written evidence focused
    the judge on the key facts.
    The Wisconsin Court of Appeals acknowledged that it
    might have been more efficient to have counsel guide the
    presentation of Schmidt’s testimony. But the fact that the par-
    ticipation of counsel would have been helpful to Schmidt
    does not necessarily mean that the lack of counsel risked
    substantial prejudice to him. A fairminded jurist could find
    that this proceeding, which was reinforced by written evi-
    dence, did not risk substantial unfair prejudice to Schmidt.
    that affirmed his judgment), but it also rests on an assumption that is
    odd given the facts of this case: that Schmidt should have been sparing in
    his testimony to avoid “convert[ing] the hearing into a mini-trial on the
    merits of his defense rather than a debate about the burden of produc-
    tion.” Id. at 26. As it was, both the Wisconsin trial and appellate courts
    found that Schmidt had not introduced enough evidence to get the de-
    fense before the jury. Given that his evidence was thin enough to permit
    that finding, he would have been ill advised to hold back any evidence
    from the judge.
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    III.
    Because the majority holds that Schmidt is entitled to re-
    lief on his Sixth Amendment claim, it does not reach
    Schmidt’s claim that the ex parte and in camera hearing arbi-
    trarily violated his due process right to present a defense.
    For the sake of completeness, I briefly note that I would de-
    ny relief on this claim as well.
    In both the Wisconsin Court of Appeals and the federal
    district court, Schmidt asserted a claim under Chambers v.
    Mississippi, which holds that state evidentiary rules must
    yield to the defendant’s due-process right to present a de-
    fense. 
    410 U.S. 284
     (1973). According to Schmidt, Wisconsin
    violated the Due Process Clause by requiring him to satisfy a
    burden of production (that he produce “some evidence” of
    adequate provocation) before he could introduce evidence of
    that defense at trial. Both the Wisconsin Court of Appeals
    and the federal district court correctly rejected that claim,
    because, among other things, none of the cases in which the
    Chambers principle has prevailed (and it has prevailed only
    rarely) “involved restrictions imposed on a defendant’s abil-
    ity to present an affirmative defense.” Gilmore v. Taylor, 
    508 U.S. 333
    , 343 (1993); see also Kubsch v. Neal, 
    838 F.3d 845
    , 858
    (7th Cir. 2016) (en banc) (discussing Chambers and its proge-
    ny). Adequate provocation in Wisconsin is an affirmative de-
    fense. 
    Wis. Stat. § 939.44
    (2).
    Presumably recognizing the weakness of his Chambers
    claim, Schmidt has repackaged his due process argument
    into a new claim. Before us, he argues not that Wisconsin’s
    evidentiary rules must yield to his due process right to put
    on a defense, but that the trial court’s use of the ex parte and
    in camera process violated the Due Process Clause. Because
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    Schmidt did not raise this claim in either the Wisconsin
    Court of Appeals or the federal district court, I would deny it
    as both procedurally defaulted and forfeited.
    ***
    The standard for relief under AEDPA is intentionally dif-
    ficult because federal habeas review of state convictions
    “frustrates both the States’ sovereign power to punish of-
    fenders and their good-faith attempts to honor constitutional
    rights.” Calderon v. Thompson, 
    523 U.S. 538
    , 555–56 (1998) (ci-
    tation and quotation marks omitted). To reinforce that point,
    the Court has not hesitated to reverse the courts of appeals
    when they fail to give state courts the deference that AEDPA
    requires. See, e.g., Woods, 
    136 S. Ct. 1149
    ; Woods v. Donald, –
    U.S. –, 
    135 S. Ct. 1372
     (2015) (per curiam); White v. Wheeler, –
    U.S. –, 
    136 S. Ct. 456
     (2015) (per curiam); Marshall v. Rodgers,
    
    569 U.S. 58
     (2013) (per curiam); Nevada v. Jackson, 
    569 U.S. 505
     (2013) (per curiam); Parker v. Matthews, 
    567 U.S. 37
     (2012)
    (per curiam); Renico v. Lett, 
    559 U.S. 766
     (2010). The majority
    fails to give the Wisconsin Court of Appeals the required
    deference, and I therefore dissent.