United States v. Mariano A. Meza-Rodriguez ( 2015 )


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  •                               In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 14-3271
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    v.
    MARIANO A. MEZA-RODRIGUEZ,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    ____________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Eastern District of Wisconsin.
    No. 13-CR-192 — Rudolph T. Randa, Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED JUNE 5, 2015 — DECIDED AUGUST 20, 2015
    ____________________
    Before WOOD, Chief Judge, and FLAUM and EASTERBROOK,
    Circuit Judges.
    WOOD, Chief Judge. When Mariano Meza-Rodriguez, a cit-
    izen of Mexico, was arrested in August 2013, he was carrying
    a .22 caliber cartridge. But it was what he did not have—
    documentation showing that he is lawfully in the United
    States—that concerns us now. His immigration status made
    his possession of the cartridge a crime under 18 U.S.C.
    § 922(g)(5), which prohibits foreigners who are not entitled
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    to be in the United States (whom we will call “unauthorized
    aliens”) from possessing firearms. Meza-Rodriguez moved
    to dismiss the indictment that followed, arguing that
    § 922(g)(5) impermissibly infringed on his rights under the
    Second Amendment to the Constitution. The district court
    denied his motion on the broad ground that the Second
    Amendment does not protect unauthorized aliens. That ra-
    tionale swept too far, and we do not endorse it. The court’s
    judgment, however, was correct for a different reason: the
    Second Amendment does not preclude certain restrictions on
    the right to bear arms, including the one imposed by
    § 922(g)(5).
    I
    Meza-Rodriguez was brought to this country by his fami-
    ly when he was four or five years old. Without ever regular-
    izing his status, he has remained here since that time. His
    current troubles began just before midnight on August 24,
    2013, when City of Milwaukee police officers responded to a
    report that an armed man was at a local bar. The officers ob-
    tained a surveillance video showing a man pointing an ob-
    ject that resembled a firearm. Witnesses later identified that
    man as Meza-Rodriguez. A few hours later, the same officers
    responded to a different report of a fight at a neighboring
    bar. The officers broke up the fight and recognized Meza-
    Rodriguez as the man from the surveillance video. After a
    foot chase, they apprehended him and patted him down.
    This brief search turned up a .22 caliber cartridge in his
    shorts pocket.
    The government later filed an indictment alleging that
    Meza-Rodriguez had violated 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5). That
    statute states, in pertinent part, that:
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    [i]t shall be unlawful for any person …
    (5) who, being an alienȭ
    (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United
    States;
    or
    (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has
    been admitted to the United States under a
    nonimmigrant visa …
    to … possess in or affecting commerce, any
    firearm or ammunition … .
    Meza-Rodriguez moved to dismiss the indictment on the
    ground that § 922(g)(5) imposes an unconstitutional restraint
    on his Second Amendment right to bear arms. The magis-
    trate judge recommended that the district court deny the
    motion, relying in part on the conclusion that the Second
    Amendment does not protect unauthorized aliens. The dis-
    trict court concurred and denied Meza-Rodriguez’s motion.
    Meza-Rodriguez then pleaded guilty pursuant to an agree-
    ment with the government and preserved this issue for ap-
    peal. See FED. R. CRIM. P. 11(a)(2). The district court sen-
    tenced Meza-Rodriguez to time served with no supervised
    release, and he was later removed to Mexico. Meza-
    Rodriguez filed a timely notice of appeal from his convic-
    tion.
    II
    Before addressing the merits, we must ensure that Meza-
    Rodriguez’s removal to Mexico has not rendered his appeal
    moot. We may not entertain this appeal unless it represents a
    live case or controversy. See U.S. CONST. art. III, § 2. To satis-
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    fy this requirement, Meza-Rodriguez “must have suffered,
    or be threatened with, an actual injury traceable to the de-
    fendant and likely to be redressed by a favorable judicial de-
    cision.” Spencer v. Kemna, 
    523 U.S. 1
    , 7 (1998) (quoting Lewis
    v. Cont’l Bank Corp., 
    494 U.S. 472
    , 477 (1990)). A person can-
    not continue to litigate “unless he can show a reasonable
    probability of obtaining a tangible benefit from winning.”
    Diaz v. Duckworth, 
    143 F.3d 345
    , 347 (7th Cir. 1998). A con-
    victed person who already has served his sentence must
    point to “some concrete and continuing injury,” i.e., “some
    ‘collateral consequence’ of the conviction.” 
    Spencer, 523 U.S. at 7
    .
    With the benefit of supplemental briefing from the par-
    ties, for which we thank them, we are satisfied that Meza-
    Rodriguez meets this standard. The immigration laws de-
    clare that any person who has been removed from the Unit-
    ed States and who has committed an aggravated felony is
    permanently inadmissible. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(9)(A)(ii).
    As matters presently stand, Meza-Rodriguez meets both re-
    quirements for this permanent bar: he has been removed,
    and his violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) is an aggravated
    felony. See 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(43)(E)(ii).
    Indeed, it is possible, though not certain, that a §
    922(g)(5) violation might also qualify as a crime involving
    moral turpitude (CIMT). The latter term is not defined by
    statute, see Marin-Rodriguez v. Holder, 
    710 F.3d 734
    , 737 (7th
    Cir. 2013), but the Board of Immigration Appeals and the
    courts have offered definitions. The Board has said that
    moral turpitude is “conduct that is inherently base, vile, or
    depraved, contrary to the accepted rules of morality and the
    duties owed other persons … .” See Knapik v. Ashcroft, 384
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    5 F.3d 84
    , 89 (3d Cir. 2004) (describing the definition used by
    the Board in its case and deferring to it). This court has sug-
    gested that such crimes are both “deliberately committed
    and ‘serious,’ either in terms of the magnitude of the loss
    that it causes or the indignation that it arouses in the law-
    abiding public.” Padilla v. Gonzales, 
    397 F.3d 1016
    , 1019 (7th
    Cir. 2005); see also Mei v. Ashcroft, 
    393 F.3d 737
    (7th Cir.
    2004) (discussing difficulty of creating a clear definition of
    the term). Persons who have been convicted of a CIMT are
    also inadmissible. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(I).
    Thus, if Meza-Rodriguez loses this appeal, he cannot re-
    turn to the United States. If he wins, he does not face a per-
    manent bar to admission. The possibility of returning to this
    country is a “tangible benefit” to Meza-Rodriguez; likewise,
    his current inability to reenter is a “concrete and continuing
    injury.” The appeal is therefore not moot.
    The decision in Diaz might appear at first glance to be in
    some tension with that conclusion, but a closer look shows
    that it is not. Diaz also involved an unauthorized alien who
    had completed his sentence and had been removed from the
    country before we heard his appeal. See 
    Diaz, 143 F.3d at 346
    . But that is the extent of the similarity between that case
    and ours. Diaz did not contest the validity of his conviction.
    Instead, he argued—in a habeas corpus proceeding, rather
    than in a direct appeal—that he had been denied due pro-
    cess when the prison revoked some of his good-time credit,
    causing him to serve a longer sentence. See 
    id. Our mootness
    finding did not depend on Diaz’s deportation; we concluded
    that there was no relief we could order because he already
    had completed his sentence. The only consequence of the ex-
    tended prison time about which he was complaining was the
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    possibility that he might be subject to enhanced punishment
    for a future criminal violation. This possibility, we found,
    was too speculative to avoid mootness, particularly given
    the fact that Diaz already had been removed and thus was
    unlikely to commit future crimes within the country. See 
    id. at 346–47.
        The consequences of Meza-Rodriguez’s conviction are
    not theoretical; his right ever to reenter the United States
    hangs in the balance. Diaz recognized that “statutory disabil-
    ities such as loss of the right to vote or the right to own a
    gun” are sufficient to save an appeal from mootness. 
    Id. at 346.
    Meza-Rodriguez faces a comparable statutory disability.
    Diaz thus actually supports our conclusion that this appeal
    presents a live controversy. See also United States v. Ashraf,
    
    628 F.3d 813
    , 822 (6th Cir. 2011) (defendant’s removal did
    not render appeal of his conviction moot because reversal
    “might affect the Attorney General’s discretionary decision
    to allow him back in the country”); United States v. Quezada-
    Enriquez, 
    567 F.3d 1228
    , 1232 (10th Cir. 2009) (same, because
    reversal of the conviction “could provide Quezada–Enriquez
    with relief from the collateral consequences of conviction”);
    United States v. Jurado-Lara, 287 F. App’x 704, 707 (10th Cir.
    2008) (same with respect to appeal of a sentence, because a
    reduction in the sentence could affect the applicability of the
    aggravated felon bar); United States v. Hamdi, 
    432 F.3d 115
    ,
    118–21 (2d Cir. 2005) (same for appeal of a sentence, because
    of the “substantial impact” a reduction in that sentence
    would have on defendant’s ability to obtain discretionary
    relief to be admitted into the country); Perez v. Greiner, 
    296 F.3d 123
    , 126 (2d Cir. 2002) (noting in dicta that a permanent
    bar on reentry was enough to prevent a habeas petition from
    becoming moot). We therefore find that this appeal is not
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    moot, and we move on to address Meza-Rodriguez’s sub-
    stantive arguments.
    III
    Meza-Rodriguez argues that 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) im-
    permissibly infringes on his rights under the Second
    Amendment to the Constitution. We review the constitu-
    tionality of federal statutes de novo. See United States v. Sid-
    well, 
    440 F.3d 865
    , 870 (7th Cir. 2006).
    A
    We first tackle the question whether the Second
    Amendment protects unauthorized non-U.S. citizens within
    our borders. The Amendment provides that “the right of the
    people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” U.S.
    CONST. amend. II. The Supreme Court has confirmed that
    this language confers an “individual right to possess and
    carry weapons.” District of Columbia v. Heller, 
    554 U.S. 570
    ,
    592 (2008). But neither Heller nor any other Supreme Court
    decision has addressed the issue whether unauthorized
    noncitizens (or noncitizens at all) are among “the people” on
    whom the Amendment bestows this individual right. A few
    other courts of appeals have reached this issue, however,
    and have concluded, based on language in Heller, that the
    Amendment does not protect the unauthorized. See United
    States v. Carpio-Leon, 
    701 F.3d 974
    , 979 (4th Cir. 2012); United
    States v. Flores, 
    663 F.3d 1022
    , 1023 (8th Cir. 2011) (per curi-
    am); United States v. Portillo-Munoz, 
    643 F.3d 437
    , 442 (5th
    Cir. 2011); see also United States v. Huitron-Guizar, 
    678 F.3d 1164
    , 1169–70 (10th Cir. 2012) (declining to reach the issue
    because § 922(g)(5) passes intermediate scrutiny in any case).
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    This issue was not, however, before the Court in Heller.
    While some of Heller’s language does link Second Amend-
    ment rights with the notions of “law-abiding citizens” and
    “members of the political community,” see 
    Heller, 554 U.S. at 580
    , 625, those passages did not reflect an attempt to define
    the term “people.” We are reluctant to place more weight on
    these passing references than the Court itself did. See
    
    Huitron-Guizar, 678 F.3d at 1168
    (declining to infer such a
    rule both “because the question in Heller was the amend-
    ment’s raison d'être—does it protect an individual or collec-
    tive right?—and aliens were not part of the calculus” and
    because nothing indicates that the Heller Court used the
    word ‘citizen’ deliberately to settle the question); see also
    Friedman v. City of Highland Park, 
    784 F.3d 406
    , 410 (7th Cir.
    2015) (“Heller does not purport to define the full scope of the
    Second Amendment.”).
    Other language in Heller supports the opposite result:
    that all people, including non-U.S. citizens, whether or not
    they are authorized to be in the country, enjoy at least some
    rights under the Second Amendment. (Although it is hard to
    find good data about the percentage of noncitizens in the
    United States before 1820, see BUREAU OF THE CENSUS, U.S.
    DEP’T OF COMMERCE, HISTORICAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED
    STATES 1789-1945: A SUPPLEMENT TO THE STATISTICAL
    ABSTRACT OF THE UNITED STATES (1949), available at
    http://www2.census.gov/prod2/statcomp/documents/
    HistoricalStatisticsoftheUnitedStates1789-1945.pdf, immigra-
    tion in the late 18th century was a common phenomenon.
    And such provisions as Article I, section 2, paragraph 2,
    which limits membership in the House of Representatives to
    persons who have been “seven Years a Citizen,” and Article
    II, section 1, paragraph 4, which requires the President to be
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    “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at
    the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,” show that the
    drafters of the Constitution used the word “citizen” when
    they wanted to do so.)
    Heller noted the similarities between the Second
    Amendment and the First and Fourth Amendments, imply-
    ing that the phrase “the people” (which occurs in all three)
    has the same meaning in all three provisions. See 
    Heller, 554 U.S. at 592
    (“[I]t has always been widely understood that the
    Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments,
    codified a pre-existing right.”); 
    id. at 580
    (noting that “the
    people” is “a term of art employed in select parts of the Con-
    stitution,” including the First, Second, Fourth, Ninth, and
    Tenth Amendments) (quoting United States v. Verdugo-
    Urquidez, 
    494 U.S. 259
    , 265 (1990)). An interpretation of the
    Second Amendment as consistent with the other amend-
    ments passed as part of the Bill of Rights has the advantage
    of treating identical phrasing in the same way and respect-
    ing the fact that the first ten amendments were adopted as a
    package. (We recognize that other uses of “the people” in the
    Constitution, including in section 2 of Article I and the Sev-
    enteenth Amendment, likely do not reflect this meaning. But
    the word appears in a different context in those provisions,
    which deal expressly with elections, not affirmative individ-
    ual rights.)
    The conclusion that the term “the people” in the Second
    Amendment has the same meaning as it carries in other
    parts of the Bill of Rights is just the first step in our analysis.
    We still must decide what it means. The Supreme Court has
    spoken on this issue, albeit obliquely. In Verdugo-Urquidez,
    the Court determined that the Fourth Amendment did not
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    protect a noncitizen brought involuntarily to the United
    States against a warrantless search of his foreign residence.
    See 
    Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. at 274
    –75. In rejecting Verdu-
    go-Urquidez’s position, the Court stated that “‘the people’
    protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and
    Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are
    reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a
    class of persons who are part of a national community or
    who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with
    this country to be considered part of that community.” 
    Id. at 265.
    Of interest here, the Court also said that “aliens receive
    constitutional protections when they have come within the
    territory of the United States and developed substantial con-
    nections with this country.” 
    Id. at 271.
    It then contrasted
    Verdugo-Urquidez with the unauthorized immigrants with
    whom it had dealt in I.N.S. v. Lopez-Mendoza, 
    468 U.S. 1032
    (1984). Unlike Verdugo-Urquidez, the latter “were in the
    United States voluntarily and presumably had accepted
    some societal obligations.” 
    Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. at 273
    .
    At a minimum, Verdugo-Urquidez governs the applicabil-
    ity of the Fourth Amendment to noncitizens. For Fourth
    Amendment rights to attach, the alien must show “substan-
    tial connections” with the United States. See, e.g., United
    States v. Vilches-Navarrete, 
    523 F.3d 1
    , 13 (1st Cir. 2008)
    (noncitizen who was in the country involuntarily and lacked
    significant previous voluntary connection with the United
    States could not rely on the Fourth Amendment); Martinez-
    Aguero v. Gonzalez, 
    459 F.3d 618
    , 625 (5th Cir. 2006) (whether
    a noncitizen can invoke the Fourth Amendment depends on
    whether she has substantial connections with the United
    States, i.e., whether she is in the country of her own accord
    and has accepted some societal obligations).
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    Given our earlier conclusion that the Second and Fourth
    Amendments should be read consistently, we find it reason-
    able to look to Verdugo-Urquidez to determine whether Meza-
    Rodriguez is entitled to invoke the protections of the Second
    Amendment. See 
    Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. at 265
    . Doing so,
    we see first that Meza-Rodriguez was in the United States
    voluntarily; there is no debate on this point. He still has ex-
    tensive ties with this country, having resided here from the
    time he arrived over 20 years ago at the age of four or five
    until his removal. He attended public schools in Milwaukee,
    developed close relationships with family members and oth-
    er acquaintances, and worked (though sporadically) at vari-
    ous locations. This is much more than the connections our
    sister circuits have found to be adequate. See, e.g., Martinez-
    
    Aguero, 459 F.3d at 625
    (noncitizen’s “regular and lawful en-
    try of the United States pursuant to a valid border-crossing
    card and her acquiescence in the U.S. system of immigra-
    tion” was sufficient, even though she had not spent long pe-
    riods of time in the country); Ibrahim v. Dep't of Homeland
    Sec., 
    669 F.3d 983
    , 996–97 (9th Cir. 2012) (applying test from
    Verdugo-Urquidez and finding that noncitizen pursuing Ph.D.
    in the United States for four years had established significant
    voluntary connection with the United States such that she
    could invoke the First and Fifth Amendments).
    The government counters with two arguments. First, it
    contends that unauthorized noncitizens categorically have
    not accepted the basic obligations of membership in U.S. so-
    ciety and thus cannot be considered as part of “the people.”
    Second, it argues that Meza-Rodriguez’s unsavory traits, in-
    cluding his multiple brushes with the law, failure to file tax
    returns, and lack of a steady job, demonstrate that he has not
    sufficiently accepted the obligations of living in American
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    society. We take the latter point first. We do not dispute that
    Meza-Rodriguez has fallen down on the job of performing as
    a responsible member of the community. But that is not the
    point. Many people, citizens and noncitizens alike, raising
    Fourth Amendment claims are likely to have a criminal rec-
    ord, but we see no hint in Verdugo-Urquidez that this is a rel-
    evant consideration. Such a test would require a case-by-case
    examination of the criminal history of every noncitizen (in-
    cluding a lawful permanent resident) who seeks to rely on
    her constitutional rights under the First, Second, or Fourth
    Amendment. Not only would this test be difficult to imple-
    ment; it would also create the potential for a noncitizen to
    lose constitutional rights she previously possessed simply
    because she began to behave in a criminal or immoral way.
    The Second Amendment is not limited to such on-again, off-
    again protection. Instead, the only question is whether the
    alien has developed substantial connections as a resident in
    this country; Meza-Rodriguez has.
    The government’s argument might have some force if
    Verdugo-Urquidez represented the Supreme Court’s only rel-
    evant holding, but it does not. In Plyler v. Doe, 
    457 U.S. 202
    (1982), which Verdugo-Urquidez left undisturbed, the Court
    addressed the status of unauthorized aliens as “persons” for
    constitutional purposes:
    Appellants argue at the outset that undocu-
    mented aliens, because of their immigration
    status, are not “persons within the jurisdiction”
    of the State of Texas, and that they therefore
    have no right to the equal protection of Texas
    law. We reject this argument. Whatever his sta-
    tus under the immigration laws, an alien is
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    surely a “person” in any ordinary sense of that
    term. Aliens, even aliens whose presence in
    this country is unlawful, have long been rec-
    ognized as “persons” guaranteed due process
    of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amend-
    ments. Shaughnessy v. Mezei, 
    345 U.S. 206
    , 212
    (1953); Wong Wing v. United States, 
    163 U.S. 228
    ,
    238 (1896); Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 
    118 U.S. 356
    , 369
    (1886). Indeed, we have clearly held that the
    Fifth Amendment protects aliens whose pres-
    ence in this country is unlawful from invidious
    discrimination by the Federal 
    Government. 457 U.S. at 210
    . Verdugo-Urquidez summarized Plyler’s hold-
    ing (along with a number of others in which the Court had
    recognized that aliens enjoy certain constitutional rights) as
    follows: “These cases … establish only that aliens receive
    constitutional protections when they have come within the
    territory of the United States and developed substantial con-
    nections with this 
    country.” 494 U.S. at 271
    .
    Meza-Rodriguez satisfies both those criteria. He has lived
    continuously in the United States for nearly all his life. Dur-
    ing that time, his behavior left much to be desired, but as we
    have said, that does not mean that he lacks substantial con-
    nections with this country. Plyler shows that even unauthor-
    ized aliens enjoy certain constitutional rights, and so unau-
    thorized status (reflected in the lack of documentation) can-
    not support a per se exclusion from “the people” protected
    by the Bill of Rights. In the post-Heller world, where it is now
    clear that the Second Amendment right to bear arms is no
    second-class entitlement, we see no principled way to carve
    out the Second Amendment and say that the unauthorized
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    (or maybe all noncitizens) are excluded. No language in the
    Amendment supports such a conclusion, nor, as we have
    said, does a broader consideration of the Bill of Rights.1
    B
    Meza-Rodriguez’s ability to invoke the Second Amend-
    ment does not resolve this case, however, because the right
    to bear arms is not unlimited. See 
    Heller, 554 U.S. at 595
    .
    Congress may circumscribe this right in some instances
    without running afoul of the Constitution, and so we must
    now decide whether 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) is such a permissi-
    ble restriction.
    The Supreme Court has steered away from prescribing a
    particular level of scrutiny that courts should apply to cate-
    gorical bans on the possession of firearms by specified
    groups of people, though it has said that rational-basis re-
    view would be too lenient. See Ezell v. City of Chicago, 
    651 F.3d 684
    , 706 (7th Cir. 2011) (citing 
    Heller, 554 U.S. at 628
    n.27). In addressing § 922(g), we have concluded that “some
    form of strong showing,” akin to intermediate scrutiny, is
    the right approach. See United States v. Skoien, 
    614 F.3d 638
    ,
    641–42 (7th Cir. 2010) (en banc) (avoiding the “‘levels of
    scrutiny’ quagmire” but noting that § 922(g)(9) serves an
    important governmental objective and that this provision
    has a substantial relation with this objective); United States v.
    Williams, 
    616 F.3d 685
    , 692 (7th Cir. 2010) (applying interme-
    diate scrutiny to § 922(g)(1)); United States v. Yancey, 
    621 F.3d 1
    Because this holding creates a split between our circuit and the
    Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Circuits, ante at 7, this opinion has been circu-
    lated to all active judges pursuant to Circuit Rule 40(e). No judge voted
    to hear the case en banc.
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    681, 683 (7th Cir. 2010) (requiring “a strong showing that the
    challenged subsection of § 922(g) [i]s substantially related to
    an important governmental objective”). Other circuits have
    applied at least intermediate scrutiny. See United States v.
    Chester, 
    628 F.3d 673
    , 683 (4th Cir. 2010) (applying interme-
    diate scrutiny to § 922(g)(9)); United States v. Reese, 
    627 F.3d 792
    , 802 (10th Cir. 2010) (same for § 922(g)(8)). But see Tyler
    v. Hillsdale Cnty. Sheriff's Dep't, 
    775 F.3d 308
    , 322–30 (6th Cir.
    2014), vacated and reh’g en banc granted, No. 13-1876 (6th Cir.
    Apr. 21, 2015) (applying strict scrutiny to § 922(g)(4)).
    Congress’s objective in passing § 922(g) was “to keep
    guns out of the hands of presumptively risky people” and to
    “suppress[] armed violence.” 
    Yancey, 621 F.3d at 683
    –84 (cit-
    ing S. REP. NO. 90-1501, at 22 (1968)); see also 
    Huitron-Guizar, 678 F.3d at 1169
    –70 (§ 922(g)’s purposes are to assist law en-
    forcement in combating crime and to keep weapons away
    from those deemed dangerous or irresponsible). One such
    group includes aliens “who … [are] illegally or unlawfully in
    the United States.” 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5)(A). The government
    argues that the ban on the possession of firearms by this
    group of people is substantially related to the statute’s gen-
    eral objectives because such persons are able purposefully to
    evade detection by law enforcement. We agree with this po-
    sition: unauthorized noncitizens often live “largely outside
    the formal system of registration, employment, and identifi-
    cation, [and] are harder to trace and more likely to assume a
    false identity.” 
    Huitron-Guizar, 678 F.3d at 1170
    . Persons with
    a strong incentive to use false identification papers will be
    more difficult to keep tabs on than the general population.
    (Section 922(g)(5)(B)’s prohibition on firearms possession by
    most aliens who are lawfully present but who hold only
    nonimmigrant visas reflects a similar concern. Holders of
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    nonimmigrant visas sometimes have no address associated
    with them, making them equally difficult to track.)
    The government also argues that § 922(g)(5) reflects the
    likelihood that unauthorized immigrants are more likely to
    commit future gun-related crimes than persons in the gen-
    eral population. It offers no data to support that assertion,
    however, and we have our doubts about its accuracy. The
    government extrapolates from the fact that persons who are
    here illegally have “show[n] a willingness to defy our law”
    to the conclusion that they are likely to abuse guns. This may
    go too far: the link to firearms is unclear, and unlawful pres-
    ence in the country is not, without more, a crime. See Arizona
    v. United States, 
    132 S. Ct. 2492
    , 2505 (2012) (“As a general
    rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present
    in the United States.”). While it is a misdemeanor to enter
    the country improperly, see 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a), many unau-
    thorized immigrants—such as Meza-Rodriguez himself—
    were too young to form the requisite intent to violate this
    statute when they were originally brought to the United
    States. Even if this future-oriented rationale lacks support,
    however, the government has an strong interest in prevent-
    ing people who already have disrespected the law (includ-
    ing, in addition to aliens unlawfully in the country, felons,
    § 922(g)(1), fugitives, § 922(g)(2), and those convicted of
    misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence, § 922(g)(9)) from
    possessing guns.
    Congress’s interest in prohibiting persons who are diffi-
    cult to track and who have an interest in eluding law en-
    forcement is strong enough to support the conclusion that 18
    U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) does not impermissibly restrict Meza-
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    Rodriguez’s Second Amendment right to bear arms. We thus
    AFFIRM the district court’s denial of his motion to dismiss.
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    FLAUM, Circuit Judge, concurring in the judgment.
    I concur in the judgment. Unlike the majority, I have
    doubts that the Second Amendment grants undocumented
    immigrants the right to bear arms, as my read of District of
    Columbia v. Heller, 
    554 U.S. 570
    (2008), does not suggest such
    an expansive interpretation. But because we need not make
    that determination in reaching our result in this matter, I
    would follow the Tenth Circuit’s prudential approach and
    reserve resolution of this challenging constitutional question
    for a case that compels addressing it. See United States v.
    Huitron-Guizar, 
    678 F.3d 1164
    , 1169–70 (10th Cir. 2012).
    In choosing to confront the issue, the majority roots its
    constitutional analysis in the common use of the phrase “the
    people” by the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments, and
    the Supreme Court’s suggestion in United States v. Verdugo-
    Urquidez, 
    494 U.S. 259
    , 265 (1990), that all persons, regardless
    of citizenship, who are part of our “national community” or
    who manifest a “sufficient connection with this country” are
    entitled to the rights that those amendments bestow. That
    view is not without appeal. Indeed, Heller describes the Sec-
    ond Amendment’s guarantee as an “ancient right,” codified
    in the constitution “to prevent the elimination of the militia,”
    but also “valued … for self-defense and 
    hunting.” 554 U.S. at 599
    . Hence, it might be argued that all adult persons in this
    country share the same basic need to defend themselves.
    Further, Heller tells us that “the conception of the militia at
    the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the
    body of all citizens capable of military service.” 
    Id. at 627.
    Today, that includes certain undocumented immigrants. See
    Andrew Tilghman, Military to Allow Undocumented Immi-
    grants to Serve, USA TODAY (Sept. 25, 2014, 5:22 PM),
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/25/pol
    icy-to-allow-undocumented-immigrants-in-
    military/16225135/.
    Conversely, who is part of our “national community” and
    whether (and how) an undocumented immigrant can estab-
    lish a “sufficient connection” under Verdugo-Urquidez re-
    mains unsettled. And Heller provides considerable reason to
    doubt that an undocumented immigrant can enjoy Second
    Amendment rights at all. The Court’s analysis professes to
    “start … with a strong presumption that the Second
    Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to
    all Americans.” 
    Id. at 581
    (emphasis added). It also character-
    izes “the people” as referring “to all members of the political
    community,” 
    id. at 580
    , and describes the Second Amend-
    ment as “the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens,” 
    id. at 635
    (emphasis added).
    However, as the majority recognizes, Heller only ad-
    dressed the question whether the right protected by the Sec-
    ond Amendment is an individual or a collective one, not
    which individuals possess the right. See 
    Heller, 554 U.S. at 635
    (“[S]ince this case represents this Court’s first in-depth
    examination of the Second Amendment, one should not ex-
    pect it to clarify the entire field … .”). In any event, the ques-
    tion of who possesses the right need not be answered to
    reach our outcome here, because regardless of the answer 18
    U.S.C. § 922(g)(5) satisfies intermediate scrutiny and thus
    passes constitutional muster.
    Accordingly, I would refrain from addressing the scope
    of the Second Amendment and, further, creating a conflict
    with the law of the Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Circuits.