United States v. Szakacs, Jeffrey ( 2000 )


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  • In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    Nos. 98-3932, 98-3963, 98-4299, 99-1532 & 99-2163
    United States of America,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    v.
    Jeffrey Szakacs, Daniel Spanley, John M. Neff,
    Tyrone Noble and Brian Baloski,
    Defendants-Appellants.
    Appeals from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of Indiana, Hammond Division.
    No. 97 CR 155--James T. Moody, Judge.
    Argued November 11, 1999--Decided May 2, 2000
    Before Bauer, Easterbrook and Kanne, Circuit Judges.
    Kanne, Circuit Judge. Five defendants who
    planned and attempted to carry out a robbery of
    a major Indiana gun store appeal their sentences
    for convictions on one count of conspiracy to
    steal firearms from a licensed firearms dealer.
    The five, Jeffrey Szakacs, Daniel Spanley, John
    M. Neff, Tyrone Noble and Brian Baloski, were
    among a group of seven men who planned to rob
    Fetla’s Trading Co., a gun and sporting goods
    store in Valparaiso, Indiana. Because of the
    local police’s quick response, the attempt was
    foiled and the seven were arrested before they
    made it to the store. All were indicted and
    eventually pleaded guilty. The district court
    sentenced Szakacs, Spanley and Baloski to thirty
    months in prison, Neff to thirty-three months and
    Noble to eighty-four months. The defendants now
    appeal the calculation of their sentences under
    the United States Sentencing Guidelines. We
    affirm the upward adjustment of the defendants’
    sentences for offenses involving fifty or more
    firearms, but because the phrase "another felony
    offense" was applied incorrectly, we vacate that
    four-level upward adjustment.
    I.   History
    The defendants, members of the Gangster
    Disciples street gang, gathered in the afternoon
    of November 6, 1997, at a fast-food restaurant in
    Crown Point, Indiana, and decided to meet later
    at the Schererville apartment of John Neff. Early
    that evening, the defendants met at Neff’s
    apartment and agreed to burglarize Fetla’s gun
    shop by cutting a hole in the wall, as their
    leader, Tyrone Noble, had done successfully at
    another Indiana gun shop a few days earlier.
    Fetla’s stocks a large number of firearms, many
    of them in locked display cases or cabled
    together, making the transportation of large
    numbers of weapons relatively easy for a group of
    men with trucks and burglary equipment. On the
    night of the planned burglary, Fetla’s had a
    stock of more than 1,000 firearms, most of them
    locked in glass display cases. The store also had
    shopping carts available for customers and
    backpacks for sale, which could have been used to
    carry the weapons. The defendants planned to take
    "big cases" of guns and "grab everything they
    could" with the intention of arming their gang
    for a street war.
    The group decided to use two trucks for the
    burglary. Noble, James Blanton and Baloski first
    would drive in a black pickup truck to East
    Chicago, Indiana, to get tools needed for the
    burglary. The others, including Neff, Christopher
    Hicks,/1 Spanley and Szakacs, would drive a red
    pickup truck to the rendezvous point, a Speedway
    gas station in Valparaiso, to wait for Noble and
    the others. During the ride from Schererville to
    Valparaiso, one of the defendants in the red
    truck aimed a Smith & Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
    handgun out the window and fired it into an open
    field. The reason for this is not clear.
    A Valparaiso police officer patrolling the area
    noticed the occupied red truck waiting in the
    parking lot of the gas station that was closed at
    that time. He became suspicious, and as he turned
    his car around to investigate, the truck drove
    away from the station. The officer chased the
    truck, pulled it over and interrogated the four
    men. Apparently suspicious of their stories, the
    officer directed the men to get out of the truck,
    searched it and found the 9mm gun. The men were
    arrested and gave confessions leading to the
    execution of a search warrant on Neff’s apartment
    the following morning. The occupants of the
    second truck, seeing their confederates’ truck on
    the side of the road rather than at the Speedway
    gas station, called off the heist and returned to
    Neff’s apartment. Police arrested the remaining
    three men in the morning when they searched
    Neff’s home.
    II.   Analysis
    The defendants challenge the district court’s
    application of the Sentencing Guidelines. First,
    they claim that the court erred in finding that
    the robbery involved fifty or more firearms,
    which merits a six-level enhancement under sec.
    2K2.1(b)(1). We review for clear error a
    sentencing court’s findings of fact, reversing
    only if "after considering all of the evidence,
    the reviewing court is left with the definite and
    firm conviction that a mistake has been
    committed." See United States v. Wyatt, 
    102 F.3d 241
    , 246 (7th Cir. 1996) (internal citation
    omitted). Second, the defendants collectively
    claim that the sentencing court erred in
    interpreting the phrase "another felony offense"
    in sec. 2K2.1(b)(5). We review de novo a
    sentencing judge’s resolution of a question of
    law. See United States v. McClanahan, 
    136 F.3d 1146
    , 1149 (7th Cir. 1998). Finally, Noble
    individually challenges the use of hearsay
    evidence at his sentencing hearing. Whether
    hearsay contains the indicia of reliability
    necessary to be used in a courtroom is a trial
    court decision that we review only for abuse of
    discretion. See United States v. Hall, 
    165 F.3d 1095
    , 1108 (7th Cir. 1999); United States v.
    Sinclair, 
    74 F.3d 753
    , 758-59 (7th Cir. 1996).
    A.   Number of Firearms
    Defendants convicted of conspiracy are sentenced
    according to Guidelines sec. 2X1.1, which directs
    the court to apply the base-offense level and any
    adjustments from the guideline for the
    substantive offense underlying the conspiracy, in
    this case sec. 2K2.1. U.S. Sentencing Guidelines
    Manual sec.sec. 2X1.1, 2K2.1. Section 2K2.1(b)(1)
    enhances the defendants’ sentences by six levels
    if the offense involved "50 or more firearms."
    U.S.S.G. sec. 2K2.1(b)(1). Because the defendants
    here were arrested before they ever set foot on
    Fetla’s property, they argue that the number of
    firearms "involved" is too speculative to support
    an enhancement of their sentences. They cite
    Application Note 9 to sec. 2X1.1 for support:
    "But the only specific offense characteristics
    from the guideline for the substantive offense
    that apply are those that are determined to have
    been specifically intended or actually occurred.
    Speculative specific offense characteristics will
    not be applied." The example provided by the
    Sentencing Commission suggests that in the
    "conspiratorial stage of planning an armed bank
    robbery," the offense would not include the
    possibility of "obtaining a large sum of money,"
    because that "would be speculative." 
    Id. The analogy
    between this crime and the
    hypothetical bank robbery in the example
    overlooks some key distinctions. In the example,
    the culprits were apprehended in the
    "conspiratorial stage of planning" in which the
    attendant circumstances of the proposed crime,
    such as the amount of money or other valuables in
    the vault, may not even be known. The
    conspirators’ ability to carry out the crime, or
    even to carry away many bags of money, might be
    limited by the number of henchmen that could be
    rounded up for the heist. They may not have a
    target selected or know whether they intend to
    steal cash from the vault or valuables from safe
    deposit boxes. To rely on this type of unanswered
    question seems too speculative for purposes of
    enhancing the sentences.
    The district court cited United States v.
    Vasquez, 
    791 F. Supp. 348
    , 352-54 (E.D.N.Y. 1992),
    as an example of impermissible speculation. In
    that case, the defendants were arrested en route
    to a planned robbery of an armored car in which
    they hoped to get $5,000,000. The court refused
    to enhance the sentence to reflect the $5,000,000
    value because "there was a failure of proof as to
    the amount the conspirators ’intended’ to steal
    . . . since there was no evidence of what was or
    would be in the van." 
    Id. at 353.
    This aptly
    illustrates the degree of uncertainty that we
    believe would run afoul of the Guidelines. To the
    defendants’ knowledge, the armored car may have
    been empty, it may have contained a hundred
    lottery tickets or $5,000,000. Without some proof
    both of their intent and the attendant
    circumstances of the crime, the $5,000,000 is
    speculation, not reasonable certainty.
    The concept of reasonable certainty does not
    permit speculation, but it also does not require
    absolute certainty. The Guidelines, while
    cautioning strongly against speculative findings,
    emphasize the need to consider intended conduct
    as well as completed conduct. In the same
    application note quoted by the defendants, the
    Guidelines remind the court that "[i]n an
    attempted theft, the value of the items that the
    defendant attempted to steal would be
    considered." U.S.S.G. sec. 2X1.1 application note
    2. Furthermore, the firearms guideline tells the
    court to "count only those firearms that were
    unlawfully sought to be obtained." U.S.S.G. sec.
    2K2.1 application note 9. Without speculating,
    the sentencing court may accept evidence that a
    defendant intended a specific target of a crime
    and then assess the actual value of that target,
    such as a plan to steal the Mona Lisa. The court
    may not assess the value of all paintings in the
    Louvre if there was no evidence that the burglar
    intended to take any particular painting or even
    knew what the museum contained. The latter is
    speculation supported only by wish and chance,
    while the former is a reasoned attempt to assess
    the value of the burglar’s target.
    The trial court found that the evidence showed
    the seven defendants specifically intended to
    steal fifty or more firearms. The Guidelines
    require that the evidence of intended conduct be
    "established with reasonable certainty," a
    standard that does not invite mathematical
    precision. U.S.S.G. sec. 2X1.1(a). Where we find
    support in the record for the district court’s
    finding, we cannot say that it is clearly
    erroneous. See United States v. Maggi, 
    44 F.3d 478
    , 484 (7th Cir. 1995).
    Here, there was evidence of the defendants’
    intent, their ability to carry out the crime and
    the contents of the store. The conspiracy
    included seven men who had two trucks and
    burglary tools, along with access to shopping
    carts and carrying bags. According to their own
    testimony, they planned to steal enough guns so
    that they could keep two each and sell some
    others with the ultimate intention of arming the
    members of their street gang. Fetla’s manager,
    Brian Lobody, testified that the store contained
    more than 1,000 guns, including hundreds of
    handguns that could be carried easily to the
    trucks. Most telling, in his statement following
    arrest, Szakacs told federal agents:
    [W]e were supposed to . . . back the van up [to
    the loading docking] you know, turn the lights
    off, . . . open up the back door and just start
    loading. You know how they have the big cases of
    the handguns? . . . We are supposed to carry
    those out and put them into the van. And we were
    suppose to load all that . . . whatever bullets
    we can get, clips we can get, shotguns, rifles,
    we are supposed to grab everything that we could.
    To qualify for the six-level enhancement, the
    seven defendants needed to carry only an armload
    of guns each, yet their plan was to grab
    everything that they could lay their hands on and
    load up the trucks. This is more than the
    evidence needed to establish with reasonable
    certainty that the conspiracy involved fifty or
    more firearms. The district court’s enhancement
    in this regard is correct.
    B.   Use of a Firearm
    1.   The Stolen Firearms
    The defendants’ sentences also were enhanced
    four levels under sec. 2K2.1 because "the
    defendant used or possessed any firearm or
    ammunition in connection with another felony
    offense," the other felony offense being the
    state law crime of conspiracy to commit burglary.
    U.S.S.G. sec. 2K2.1. The government contends that
    any federal offense (in this case, conspiracy to
    steal firearms from a licensed dealer) which
    includes conduct that can be characterized as a
    state law offense (here, conspiracy to commit
    burglary) qualifies for the enhancement. What
    makes this case difficult is that the state law
    offense and the federal offense were essentially
    the same crime. Burglary is the entering of a
    building with the intent to commit a felony, see
    Hossman v. State, 
    482 N.E.2d 1150
    , 1154 (Ind.
    App. 1985), and the felony here of course was the
    theft of firearms. This presents an issue of
    first impression for this Court: Does a state law
    crime that occurs simultaneously with a federal
    weapons crime qualify as "another felony offense"
    for purposes of the enhancement under sec.
    2K2.1(b)(5)?
    Although new to us, the issue has been
    addressed by the Fifth and Sixth Circuits with
    divided results. See United States v. McDonald,
    
    165 F.3d 1032
    , 1036-37 (6th Cir. 1999); United
    States v. Sanders, 
    162 F.3d 396
    , 399-402 (6th
    Cir. 1998); United States v. Armstead, 
    114 F.3d 504
    , 511-13 (5th Cir. 1997). In Armstead, the
    first case to be decided, the defendants broke
    into a pawn shop that was licensed to sell
    firearms and stole nineteen guns. The defendants
    pleaded guilty to stealing firearms from a
    licensed dealer, but were also charged by the
    State of Texas with burglary. The sentencing
    judge applied the four-level enhancement for
    possessing a firearm in connection with another
    felony based on the state burglary charge.
    The Fifth Circuit cited two reasons to affirm.
    First, it pointed out that the phrase "used or
    possessed the firearm . . . in connection with a
    crime of violence" in a different Guidelines
    provision, see U.S.S.G. sec. 4B1.4(b)(3)(A),
    permits an enhancement when a firearm is used in
    a contemporaneous crime of violence. See
    
    Armstead, 114 F.3d at 512-13
    (citing United
    States v. Guerrero, 
    5 F.3d 868
    (5th Cir. 1993)).
    Guerrero, however, does not shed much light here.
    In Guerrero, the defendant was charged with
    possessing a stolen firearm and possession of a
    firearm by a felon based on weapons the defendant
    procured during a burglary, which is a crime of
    
    violence. 5 F.3d at 869
    . The court held that "’in
    connection with’ does not necessarily exclude
    possessing the firearms as fruits of the crime
    the possessor is contemporaneously committing."
    
    Id. at 872.
    We do not necessarily disagree with that
    reasoning, but the issue for us is what
    constitutes another crime, not whether the
    firearm offense was connected to the state law
    crime. The outcome in Guerrero might be very
    different if sec. 4B1.4(b)(3)(A) read "in
    connection with another crime of violence," in
    which case counting the instant crime of violence
    again as a state law crime would be duplicative.
    We are concerned with the impermissible double
    counting of offense characteristics by the
    concurrent description of them as state law
    crimes, a danger not raised by guidelines that
    direct the court to look at "connected" crimes.
    Therefore, we find this rationale to be
    unpersuasive.
    The second reason given by the Armstead court
    was that "[n]othing in the Guidelines suggests
    that contemporaneous crimes cannot be considered
    when enhancing a sentence." 
    Armstead, 114 F.3d at 513
    . To the extent "contemporaneous" means
    "existing or occurring during the same time," we
    agree. Webster’s III New International Dictionary
    491 (3d ed. 1986). In fact, we have regularly
    upheld sentences for multiple crimes that
    occurred during the same period of time. See,
    e.g., United States v. Payton, 
    198 F.3d 980
    (7th
    Cir. 1999) (upholding sentence enhancement under
    sec. 2K2.1(b)(5) for contemporaneous crimes of
    being a felon in possession of a firearm and
    possession of a shotgun with intent to use it in
    a robbery). Contemporaneous cannot mean the same
    crime, however, without denuding the word
    "another" of all meaning. Something in the
    Guidelines--the word "another"--does suggest that
    same offense conduct cannot be characterized as
    both a federal crime and a state crime, and in
    that respect we disagree with the Armstead court.
    The Fifth Circuit expressed an additional policy
    justification for its holding. Amendment 374 to
    the Guidelines says that the "firearms statutes
    often are used as a device to enable the federal
    court to exercise jurisdiction over offenses that
    otherwise could be prosecuted only under state
    law." 
    Id. at 513
    (quoting U.S.S.G. app. C.,
    amend. 374). This purportedly "reflects the
    concern for public safety which the Guidelines
    sought to achieve." 
    Id. It is
    unclear how a
    jurisdictional hook reflects a concern for public
    safety more than any other statute does, but
    regardless, that insight does not support the
    conclusion that both the jurisdictional tool and
    the state law offense were intended to be
    punished federally. More naturally, the hook
    allows federal prosecutors the justification to
    reach criminal conduct that otherwise would be
    solely the responsibility of state prosecutors.
    It does not necessarily require the double
    counting of offense conduct as both federal and
    state crimes given the use of the word "another"
    in the guideline.
    Since Armstead, the Sixth Circuit has twice
    addressed this issue and expressly disagreed with
    the Fifth Circuit’s holding. In Sanders, the
    defendant pleaded guilty to being a convicted
    felon in possession of firearms and knowingly
    transporting stolen firearms. 
    Sanders, 162 F.3d at 397
    . Sanders and two co-defendants burglarized
    a pawn shop and stole seventy-three firearms. His
    sentence was enhanced four levels pursuant to
    sec. 2K2.1(b)(5) because the burglary could have
    been charged as a state law offense. 
    Id. at 400.
    The Sixth Circuit reversed, holding that the
    "Guidelines do not authorize a major four-level
    increase under the instant facts simply because
    the state could also have brought a prosecution
    for the one and the same burglary." 
    Id. The court
    offered three reasons for rejecting
    Armstead. First, reading the guideline to allow
    a state law offense based on the exact same
    offense conduct to count as a "another felony
    offense" renders "the word ’another’ . . .
    superfluous, and of no significance to the
    application of that provision." 
    Id. Since almost
    all federal crimes can also be characterized as
    state crimes, the government’s reading of
    ’another felony offense’ would permit the
    "automatic application of this significant 4
    level Guideline enhancement." 
    Id. Second, the
    Sixth Circuit looked to Application
    Note 18 to sec. 2K2.1(b)(5). That provision
    states, "’another felony offense’ and ’another
    offense’ refer to offenses other than explosive
    or firearms possession or trafficking offenses."
    U.S.S.G. sec. 2K2.1(b)(5) application note 18.
    The probative value of this note is equivocal.
    Burglary is not necessarily a "firearms
    possession or trafficking offense;" burglary is
    the breaking into and entering a building to
    commit a felony. However, the felony in this
    burglary was the theft of weapons, which arguably
    makes the burglary a "possession or trafficking
    offense" in the general sense that the note uses
    the phrase. The note refers to "possession and
    trafficking offenses" and not to specific
    statutory provisions, which suggests a level of
    generality in the phrase to indicate that
    breaking into and entering a building to steal
    weapons would be one of the "possession and
    trafficking offenses" excluded from "another
    felony offense."
    Third, the Guidelines differentiate between
    base-offense levels and specific-offense
    characteristics, and courts should not adjust a
    sentence upward based on factors already
    reflected in the base-offense level. Since the
    Guidelines already account for the theft
    behavior, see U.S.S.G. sec. 2K2.1 (covering
    "unlawful receipt, possession, or transportation
    of firearms"), the Sixth Circuit "declines to
    adjust Defendant’s offense level upward by four
    levels for contemporaneous conduct already
    included in the Guideline calculation." 
    Id. at 402.
    Because almost every weapons crime could
    also be charged as a state law offense,
    Armstead’s reading of the guideline would lead to
    a routine four-level enhancement and defeat the
    purpose behind the structure to the Guidelines.
    See also 
    McDonald, 165 F.3d at 1037
    (holding that
    an enhancement for stealing firearms during the
    burglary of a pawn shop would constitute double
    counting and "would thus be contrary to the
    guideline’s underlying purpose.").
    The Sixth Circuit did not close the door on all
    enhancements based on purported state law crimes,
    only crimes that truly constituted double
    counting. The court held that state law crimes
    that occur contemporaneously to federal weapons
    crimes could support enhancements under sec.
    2K2.1(b)(5) if there was "a finding of a
    separation of time between the offense of
    conviction and the other felony offense, or a
    distinction of conduct between that occurring in
    the offense of conviction and the other felony
    offense." 
    Sanders, 162 F.3d at 400
    . Thus, a
    defendant who steals a firearm and then engages
    in a shootout with police, robs the liquor store
    down the street or files the serial number off
    the firearm, could receive an enhancement for
    "another felony" because the conduct violates
    either a state or federal law.
    In fact, this has been the way this Court has
    applied sec. 2K2.1(b)(5). All six published cases
    applying the phrase "another felony offense" have
    involved crimes separated in time or by a
    "distinction of conduct." See Payton, 
    1999 WL 1101622
    , at *2 (upholding enhancement for
    possession of shotgun and intent to use the
    weapon in a robbery); United States v. Santoro,
    
    159 F.3d 318
    , 319-20 (7th Cir. 1998) (possession
    of a firearm by a felon and transferring a
    firearm with knowledge it would be used in drug
    trafficking); United States v. Patterson, 
    97 F.3d 192
    , 195 (7th Cir. 1996) (possession of a firearm
    by a fugitive and drug trafficking); United
    States v. Gilmore, 
    60 F.3d 392
    , 394 (7th Cir.
    1995) (possession of a firearm by a felon with
    knowledge that they would be used to commit
    "another felony offense"); United States v.
    Messino, 
    55 F.3d 1241
    , 1255-56 (7th Cir. 1995)
    (possession of a firearm by a felon and
    unlawfully transferring firearms with knowledge
    that they would be used to commit crimes); United
    States v. Rogers, 
    46 F.3d 31
    , 32 (7th Cir. 1995)
    (possession of a firearm by a felon with reason
    to believe it would be used in another felony
    offense). While these cases did not involve
    enhancements for state law crimes that were part
    and parcel of the federal weapons offense, as the
    case at bar does, they do illustrate a much less
    strained interpretation of sec. 2K2.1(b)(5) than
    that proposed by the government. Our reading of
    this section today merely reinforces the
    straightforward application of the enhancement
    that has been used in this circuit for several
    years and rejects the approach represented by the
    Armstead court./2
    The government proposes an elements-based test
    that would allow the application of the upward
    adjustment for every federal weapons violation
    that overlaps with a state law crime so long as
    the state crime has at least one element
    different from the federal crime. Burglary, which
    requires the illegal entry into a building, could
    be used to enhance theft of firearms, which does
    not require illegal entry, according to this
    position. The government does not cite any
    authority supporting the adoption of this test,
    but simply relies on Armstead. However, even
    Armstead did not propose an elements test. While
    we do not believe this to be an irrational
    approach, the language of the Guidelines does not
    compel this reading. More importantly, this test
    fails to address the key weakness noted by the
    Sanders court. Because nearly every federal
    weapons offense could be simultaneously charged
    as a state crime, allowing the state crime to
    count as "another felony offense" renders that
    term superfluous; it could just as easily read
    "any felony offense." We do not lightly render a
    statute’s language a dead letter, and we decline
    to do so today.
    2.   The Test-Fired Firearm
    The probation office and the district court
    offered an alternate reading of sec. 2K2.1(b)(5),
    which counts the firearm that the defendants
    test-fired on the way to the rendezvous, rather
    than the weapons they conspired to steal, as the
    weapon used "in connection with another felony."
    However, the government rejected this
    interpretation, and the government argued (as
    discussed in the preceding section) that only the
    weapons that were the object of the firearms
    conspiracy count toward the sec. 2K2.1(b)(5)
    adjustment. We accept the government’s position,
    and following the reasoning in Sanders, we will
    vacate the four-level sentence enhancement for
    use of a weapon in another felony offense.
    C.   Noble’s Sentencing
    Defendant Noble, the supposed "governor" of this
    Gangster Disciples troop, appeals the use of
    hearsay testimony at his sentencing hearing.
    Specifically, he challenges the district court’s
    decision to permit a federal agent to testify
    based on her knowledge of other crimes in which
    Noble had been involved. The agent gleaned much
    of this information from written summaries of
    police investigations and interviews with co-
    defendants who were not present in court. Noble
    did not object to this testimony at sentencing,
    so we review only for plain error. See United
    States v. Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 731 (1993). The
    Supreme Court has noted that plain errors must be
    both plain and errant, see 
    id. at 731,
    but more
    than that, they must affect substantial rights,
    see Fed. R. Crim. P. Rule 52(b), and "seriously
    affect the fairness, integrity or public
    reputation of judicial proceedings." 
    Olano, 507 U.S. at 732
    .
    At the sentencing hearing, Bureau of Alcohol,
    Tobacco and Firearms Special Agent Cynthia
    Carroll testified about Noble’s participation in
    another theft of firearms from an Indiana
    firearms dealer, this one in Merrillville, a town
    near Schererville. Carroll had personally
    interviewed the Merrillville store’s licensee and
    reviewed the co-defendants’ statements, which
    were against their own interest, and police
    reports regarding that crime. Noble was given
    advance notice that the government intended to
    use this hearsay evidence and a full opportunity
    to cross-examine Carroll, which we have indicated
    is important to promoting the fairness of the
    proceeding. See United States v. Johnson, 
    997 F.2d 248
    , 254 (7th Cir. 1993).
    The admission of the particular hearsay evidence
    at Noble’s sentencing was neither errant nor
    seriously affected the fairness of the proceeding
    since all indications were that the evidence was
    reliable and corroborated. The Sentencing
    Guidelines expressly permit the use of hearsay
    evidence that has "sufficient indicia of
    reliability to support its probable accuracy."
    U.S.S.G. sec. 6A1.3; see United States v. Burke,
    
    148 F.3d 832
    , 836 (7th Cir. 1998); United States
    v. Anaya, 
    32 F.3d 308
    , 311 (7th Cir. 1994);
    United States v. Morales, 
    994 F.3d 386
    , 389 (7th
    Cir. 1993). We have previously allowed written
    summaries of an agent’s interviews with witnesses
    and the defendant to be used at sentencing, see
    United States v. Gerstein, 
    104 F.3d 973
    , 978 (7th
    Cir. 1997), as well as an agent’s testimony based
    on police reports and other forms of out-of-court
    testimony. See United States v. Francis, 
    39 F.3d 803
    , 806, 809-11 (7th Cir. 1994).
    Statements against penal interest have long been
    considered reliable enough for use at trial under
    the Federal Rules of Evidence, see Fed. R. Evid.
    804(b)(3), so we cannot say that they are too
    unreliable for use at sentencing when the Federal
    Rules do not apply. Furthermore, the statements
    do not stand alone; they are corroborated by
    police reports and Carroll’s own interview with
    the licensee of the Merrillville store. Finally,
    there has been no indication nor even an
    assertion at sentencing or on appeal that the
    hearsay was in any way inaccurate or misleading.
    Therefore, it was not plain error to allow
    Carroll to testify based on this information.
    Noble also argues that enhancing his sentence
    based on three different specific offense
    elements constituted "impermissible double
    counting." Noble received sentence enhancements
    pursuant to U.S.S.G. sec.sec. 2K2.1(b)(1), 2K2.1
    (b)(4) and 2K2.1(b)(5). This section requires
    enhancements for intending to steal fifty or more
    firearms, possessing firearms with stolen serial
    numbers and using a firearm in connection with
    another offense, respectively. As the government
    correctly notes, the Guidelines indicate that
    enhancements for specific offense characteristics
    "are cumulative (added together) unless the
    guideline specifies that only the greater (or
    greatest) is to be used." U.S.S.G. sec. 1B1.2
    application note 4. Nothing in sec. 2K2.1
    suggests that only the greatest of the three
    enhancements should be used, and this court can
    see no reason why that would be so. The facts
    supporting each adjustment are not the same, and
    impermissible double counting exists only when
    two enhancements are premised on "identical
    facts." See United States v. Haines, 
    32 F.3d 290
    ,
    293 (7th Cir. 1994). Here the facts relate to
    Noble’s intent to steal a certain number of
    firearms, possession of (different) firearms that
    had stolen serial numbers and using a (still
    different) weapon in connection with the offense.
    This reflects three different descriptions of
    different offense conduct, not a different
    description of the same offense conduct.
    III.   Conclusion
    For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the upward
    adjustment of the defendants’ sentences for
    crimes involving fifty or more weapons, but
    vacate the four-level increase for using a weapon
    in connection with another felony offense. The
    cases are remanded to the district court for re-
    sentencing consistent with this opinion.
    /1 Christopher Hicks and James Blanton were indicted
    with the five appellants and pleaded guilty, but
    did not appeal their sentences.
    /2 The Guidelines grouping rules, see U.S.S.G. sec.
    3D1.2, provide additional aid in determining the
    Sentencing Commission’s definition of "another
    offense." Offenses that have the same harm and
    victim are supposed to be grouped on the theory
    that this kind of overlap should not result in
    double counting for purposes of punishment. See
    United States v. Dawson, 
    1 F.3d 457
    , 461-64 (7th
    Cir. 1993); United States v. Bruder, 
    945 F.2d 167
    , 170-71 (7th Cir. 1991). This implies that an
    offense that would be grouped (if all were under
    federal law) cannot be treated as "another
    offense" with a four-level increase. The state
    law burglary offense would undoubtedly be grouped
    under the criteria of sec. 3D1.2, strongly
    suggesting that it should not be counted as
    another offense for purposes of sec. 2K2.1.