Buckley, Wendy v. Bass & Associates ( 2001 )


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  • In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    No. 00-3054
    Wendy Buckley,
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    v.
    Bass & Associates and Patti H. Bass,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division.
    No. 99 C 4044--Wayne R. Andersen, Judge.
    Argued January 8, 2001--Decided May 7, 2001
    Before Posner, Manion, and Kanne, Circuit
    Judges.
    Posner, Circuit Judge. Buckley appeals
    from the dismissal, for failure to state
    a claim, of her class-action suit under
    the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act,
    15 U.S.C. sec.sec. 1692 et seq., against
    a law firm, Bass, and its principal
    partner (whom we’ll ignore to keep things
    simple). The record contains little
    besides a letter addressed to Buckley on
    Bass’s letterhead, which reads in its
    entirety as follows:
    Wendy Buckley,
    8639 S. 87th Ave Apt. 113
    Justice, IL 60458
    Client: Beneficial National Bank USA
    Dealer: Kmart Corp.
    Acct # : 7101593000064995
    Dear Wendy Buckley
    This office has been notified that a
    possible bankruptcy has been filed. We
    have not yet received the bankruptcy
    information. Please provide this
    information in the spaces below and
    return it as soon as possible.
    Thank you for your assistance.
    Attorney’s Name: __
    Attorney’s Address:
    Attorney’s Phone: (___)_________
    Case Number: _____
    Chapter: __________
    Intention: _________
    Date Filed: ________
    Sincerely,
    Ronald Key
    Bankruptcy Paralegal
    Bass specializes in representing
    creditors in consumer bankruptcies and
    did not send Buckley the follow-up letter
    to which section 1692e(11) (see next
    paragraph) refers. Buckley had not in
    fact filed for bankruptcy when the letter
    was mailed, though she did so a month
    later.
    The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act,
    so far as bears on this appeal, forbids a
    debt collector to "use any false,
    deceptive, or misleading representation
    or means in connection with the
    collection of any debt," 15 U.S.C. sec.
    1692e; and such use includes a "failure
    to disclose in the initial written
    communication with the consumer [the
    debtor] . . . that the debt collector is
    attempting to collect a debt and that any
    information obtained will be used for
    that purpose." sec. 1692e(11). Buckley
    argues that Bass’s letter violated this
    provision because it failed to disclose
    that the firm was trying to collect the
    debt she allegedly owed Beneficial. She
    argues that it violated another provision
    of the Act as well, sec. 1692g(a), which
    requires the debt collector, "within five
    days after the initial communication with
    a consumer in connection with the
    collection of any debt, . . . [to] send
    the consumer [unless the information was
    contained in the initial communication or
    the debt has been paid in full] a written
    notice containing (1) the amount of the
    debt; (2) the name of the creditor to
    whom the debt is owed; (3) a statement
    that unless the consumer, within thirty
    days after receipt of the notice,
    disputes the validity of the debt, or any
    portion thereof, the debt will be assumed
    to be valid by the debt collector," and
    two other types of information as well.
    The letter we have quoted was missing all
    but (2), the name of the creditor, and
    there was, as we mentioned, no follow-up
    notice within five days containing the
    missing information.
    The letter is not on its face a demand
    for payment. It does not ask for payment
    or even indicate how much is owing.
    Obviously, though, it seeks information
    that might later be used in an attempt to
    collect the debt. If Buckley had replied
    to the letter by saying that she had
    filed for bankruptcy, and had given Bass
    the information requested, Bass would
    have known that its next step should be
    either to seek reaffirmation of the debt
    if it was secured, Cox v. Zale Delaware,
    Inc., 
    239 F.3d 910
    , 912-13 (7th Cir.
    2001); Aiello v. Providian Financial
    Corp., 
    239 F.3d 876
    , 878-79 (7th Cir.
    2001); In re Turner, 
    156 F.3d 713
    , 715
    (7th Cir. 1998); In re Kinion, 
    207 F.3d 751
     (5th Cir. 2000), or to file a claim
    in bankruptcy if it was not. Bass is,
    remember, a specialist in consumer
    bankruptcies, and presumably would have
    taken action to collect Buckley’s debt in
    bankruptcy (unless the amount of the debt
    is trivial, something we don’t know) had
    Buckley replied that she had indeed filed
    for bankruptcy. If she replied that she
    had not filed for bankruptcy, Bass might
    then have sent her a demand, something it
    could not lawfully do if she had filed
    for bankruptcy, for in that event a
    demand for payment (as distinct from a
    nonthreatening offer of a debt-
    reaffirmation agreement, In re Duke, 
    79 F.3d 43
     (7th Cir. 1996); Pertuso v. Ford
    Motor Credit Co., 
    233 F.3d 417
    , 423 (6th
    Cir. 2000); cf. United States v. Nelson,
    
    969 F.2d 626
    , 630 (8th Cir. 1992)) made
    by the creditor or the creditor’s agent
    would violate the automatic stay (a
    statutory injunction) of efforts to
    collect a debt from a debtor in
    bankruptcy outside the bankruptcy
    proceeding itself. 11 U.S.C. sec. 362(a);
    Aiello v. Providian Financial Corp.,
    supra, 239 F.3d at 879; In re Vitreous
    Steel Products Co., 
    911 F.2d 1223
    , 1231
    (7th Cir. 1990); In re Del Mission Ltd.,
    
    998 F.2d 756
     (9th Cir. 1993). Although
    Bass claims not to have been hired to
    collect Buckley’s debt to its client,
    that claim is in some tension with its
    failure to deny that it is a debt
    collector, since if it were not a debt
    collector the Act would not be applicable
    to it at all. But maybe Bass simply chose
    not to include that ground in its motion
    to dismiss. There is no duty to include
    all possible grounds for dismissal in
    such a motion.
    We must decide whether the letter should
    be deemed "the initial communication with
    a consumer in connection with the
    collection of" the debt that the
    plaintiff is believed to owe Bass’s
    client, thus triggering the duty to
    inform the debtor that it is indeed an
    effort at debt collection and to furnish
    her in the letter itself or in a separate
    letter sent within five days the warnings
    and other information required by the
    statute. Such a reading would be
    consistent with the statutory language,
    indeed is supported by it, but would have
    the surprising effect of outlawing such
    letters, however bona fide. The reason is
    the automatic-stay provision of the
    Bankruptcy Code. Should the recipient of
    the letter turn out to have filed for
    bankruptcy, the addition to the letter of
    language demanding payment would, as the
    cases we cited earlier make clear, place
    the sender in violation of the automatic
    stay. "Demands" that consist simply of
    noncoercive offers to enter into debt-
    reaffirmation agreements are an
    exception, as we noted earlier; and it is
    conceivable that if Bass had learned that
    the plaintiff was filing for bankruptcy,
    the next step would have been for its
    principal, the actual creditor, to make
    such an offer to the plaintiff. But if
    she was not in bankruptcy, more direct
    methods of collection would doubtless be
    used. Given the menace of the automatic
    stay, simple prudence should thus impel a
    debt collector who thinks the debtor may
    have filed for bankruptcy to try to
    verify this before sending her a dunning
    letter. To make such an inquiry a per se
    violation of the Fair Debt Collection
    Practices Act unless the debt collector
    revises the letter to make it an explicit
    demand for payment in unarguable
    violation of the automatic stay would
    place the two statutes on a collision
    course.
    Against this the plaintiff argues that
    the debt collector can find out whether
    the debtor has filed for bankruptcy just
    by dialing up a database. This may be
    true, but the question of statutory
    interpretation is whether Congress when
    it passed the Fair Debt Collection
    Practices Act meant to preclude inquiries
    directed at the debtor concerning the
    debtor’s bankruptcy status. We find this
    hard to believe. Given that a debt
    collector or other creditor’s agent has a
    legitimate interest in finding out the
    debtor’s bankruptcy status, we do not
    think the Act makes such inquiries
    illegal per se.
    Conceivably a letter ostensibly of
    inquiry might be reasonably interpreted
    as a demand for payment. Bass’s letter
    refers to the creditor and to the
    transaction that gave rise to the alleged
    debt and inquires about the debtor’s
    "intention" in the bankruptcy (if she has
    already filed for bankruptcy). A
    bankruptcy lawyer might interpret the
    reference to "intention" to be asking
    whether, if it is a secured debt, the
    debtor intends to reaffirm the debt,
    surrender the collateral, or redeem the
    collateral. See 11 U.S.C. sec. 521(2); In
    re Edwards, 
    901 F.2d 1383
    , 1385 (7th Cir.
    1990); In re Kinion, supra, 207 F.3d at
    756; In re Johnson, 
    89 F.3d 249
    , 251 (5th
    Cir. 1996) (per curiam). But maybe an
    unsophisticated debtor would read the
    inquiry about his intentions as an
    indirect demand for payment. ("What do
    you intend to do about this debt, Mr.
    Debtor?") And suppose Bass has a practice
    of sending the letter to every debtor
    whom it is hired to dun, regardless of
    whether it has any reason to believe that
    the debtor has filed for bankruptcy. Then
    debtors might read the letter as a threat
    to force them into bankruptcy if they
    don’t indicate an "intention" to pay up.
    That is one set of possibilities but
    another is that Bass is, as it claims to
    be, in the business of handling
    creditors’ claims in bankruptcy
    proceedings, rather than being a
    collection agency in the usual sense.
    Then the letter would be a prelude not to
    a dunning letter but to the filing of a
    claim in bankruptcy by Bass’s principal,
    represented by Bass as lawyer, and such
    claims are outside the scope of the Fair
    Debt Collection Practices Act. Bass
    wouldn’t be a debt collector after all.
    Despite the existence of these competing
    possibilities, we need not decide whether
    there is a state of facts consistent with
    the complaint that would show that Bass
    had violated the Act, in which event the
    complaint would ordinarily survive a
    motion to dismiss. E.g., Scheuer v.
    Rhodes, 
    416 U.S. 232
    , 236 (1974); Walker
    v. National Recovery, Inc., 
    200 F.3d 500
    ,
    503 (7th Cir. 1999); McMath v. City of
    Gary, 
    976 F.2d 1026
    , 1031 (7th Cir.
    1992); Casino Resource Corp. v. Harrah’s
    Entertainment, Inc., 
    243 F.3d 435
    , 437
    (8th Cir. 2001). For the plaintiff’s
    lawyer made clear at argument that he was
    not seeking an opportunity to prove that
    Bass was in fact engaged in a scheme to
    collect debts. He does not want
    discovery. He wants a per se rule. He has
    staked his all on trying to persuade us
    that the letter on its face is the
    initial communication with the debtor to
    which the statute refers. Compare Walker
    v. National Recovery, Inc., supra, 200
    F.3d at 504. It is not.
    Affirmed.