Masiongale Elec v. NLRB ( 2003 )


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  •                           In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________
    Nos. 00-3194, 00-3576, 02-1227 & 02-1591
    MASIONGALE ELECTRICAL-MECHANICAL, INC.,
    Petitioner, Cross-Respondent,
    v.
    NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD,
    Respondent, Cross-Petitioner,
    and
    INDIANA STATE PIPE TRADES ASSOCIATION,
    Intervenor.
    ____________
    Petitions for Review and Cross-Applications
    for Enforcement of Orders
    of the National Labor Relations Board.
    ____________
    ARGUED SEPTEMBER 23, 2002—DECIDED MARCH 21, 2003
    ____________
    Before DIANE P. WOOD, EVANS, and WILLIAMS, Circuit
    Judges.
    WILLIAMS, Circuit Judge. Because of terminations, work
    restrictions, and failures to hire, the National Labor
    Relations Board (the Board) determined that Masiongale
    Electrical-Mechanical, Inc. (Masiongale) violated various
    provisions of the National Labor Relations Act (the Act).
    We find that there was substantial evidence supporting
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    the Board’s findings and enforce the orders except for
    Masiongale’s coercive interrogation of two employees
    and its termination of a different employee.
    I. BACKGROUND
    Masiongale is based in Muncie, Indiana, and performs
    electrical, HVAC (heating, ventilation and air-condition-
    ing), and plumbing contracting for the construction in-
    dustry. From December 1996 through September 1997,
    Masiongale placed advertisements in local newspapers
    seeking to hire plumbers for two job sites, one in
    Mishawaka, Indiana, and the other in Greenwood, Indi-
    ana. The ads were for “licensed plumbers and licensed
    assistants only.” Locals 172 and 661 of the Indiana State
    Pipe Trades Association (the union) were interested in
    these notices, and encouraged their unemployed members
    to apply. Jack Neal, a business agent for Local 661, went
    to Masiongale’s office and picked up an application, which
    he photocopied and made available to members of both
    locals in January 1997.
    A. Refusal to Hire Self-Identified Union Members
    In December 1996, three union members delivered
    completed applications to Masiongale’s superintendents
    at the Mishawaka jobsite. They identified themselves as
    union organizers and discussed their work experience
    and certifications with the superintendent. Though the
    superintendents told these applicants that the jobsite
    was in need of plumbers and they submitted completed
    applications indicating that they were voluntary union
    organizers, they were never contacted by the company.
    In August 1997, four different union members went to
    Masiongale’s office and requested job applications, which
    they completed on the spot. They wore union T-shirts and
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    wrote the phrase “Voluntary Union Organizer” at the top
    of their applications. They submitted their applications
    to Masiongale’s receptionist, but were never contacted by
    the company.
    On March 28, 1997, Jack Neal submitted 13 completed
    applications, along with his own, to Masiongale’s office.
    All the applicants held valid plumber’s licenses and had
    written the phrase “Voluntary Union Organizer” across
    the top of their applications. None of the 13 applicants
    were contacted by Masiongale for work on either job site,
    though Neal, after a follow-up telephone conversation, was
    offered a position in April.
    B. Gary Gravit and Jeffrey Jehl
    Gary Gravit applied for a job as a plumber at the
    Mishawaka jobsite in December 1996. He met a superin-
    tendent, Ron Curd, and was offered a position. The morn-
    ing of his first day at the jobsite, Gravit met with Jeffrey
    Jehl, an organizer for the union, and they both went to
    the jobsite. Gravit introduced Jehl to Curd and told Curd
    that though Jehl did not have a plumber’s license, he
    was experienced and would do good work. Jehl filled out
    a job application and was hired on the spot. Neither Gravit
    nor Jehl revealed their union affiliation on their job ap-
    plications or while talking with Curd.
    Their first morning at work, Gravit and Jehl observed
    two people with jackets bearing union insignia talking
    to Curd. After the two individuals left, Curd approached
    Jehl and Gravit and asked whether either of them knew
    the two union members. Gravit said that he knew one of
    the employees. Curd then turned to walk away, but re-
    turned and asked, “Have either of you been a member of
    the union before?” Gravit said he “worked permit” a couple
    of times in the past, and Jehl said that he was never a
    member of Local 172.
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    The next morning, Gravit and Jehl began distributing
    union literature and discussing the union with the em-
    ployees on the jobsite. Jehl wore a white jacket with a
    union organizer logo on it and Gravit wore a Local 172
    baseball hat. Curd arrived at the job site a little while
    after Gravit and Jehl began talking with other employ-
    ees, and was told by Jehl that he was a organizer for
    the union. Curd replied that he was not surprised, and
    said “If Masiongale had to pay union wages, they might
    as well pull off the job, they would go broke.”
    Gravit told Jehl while they were working on the job-
    site that Masiongale was not completing some of the
    plumbing up to code. Instead of telling Curd, Gravit de-
    cided he would send a letter to the plumbing inspector.
    They then met with Curd and told him that they felt that
    they were underpaid compared to other plumbers on the
    jobsite. Curd replied by telling them that he could not
    grant wage increases. Jehl said that until he was given
    a raise, he was going on strike. Curd asked, “Are you both
    union members?” and they replied “Yes.” Curd then
    asked, “Are you both going out on strike?” Gravit re-
    plied “Yes.” Both left the jobsite and did not return to
    work. Gravit then sent his letter to the plumbing inspec-
    tor describing the code violations he noticed on the jobsite.
    Jehl and other union organizers had several meetings
    with Curd over the next two months discussing the union’s
    picketing of the jobsite and other matters. In March 1997,
    after learning from his last conversation with Curd that
    the jobsite was in dire need of help, Jehl went to the job-
    site and told Curd that he would unconditionally return
    to work. Curd began to laugh, saying that Jehl was not
    allowed on the project, and that “around here you are
    considered a marked man, everyone on the job has a
    hunting license and shotguns.” Jehl left the jobsite and
    wrote a letter to Masiongale reiterating his offer to uncon-
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    ditionally work on the jobsite, but never received a re-
    sponse.
    C. Jack Neal and Anthony Bane
    As mentioned above, Jack Neal was the business agent
    for Local 661, and distributed copies of Masiongale’s job
    application to unemployed union members in January
    1997. Shortly thereafter, Neal saw a different Masiongale
    advertisement and called the company. He was asked
    whether he had a plumber’s license and was encouraged
    to pick up an application. In March, 1997, Neal delivered
    his completed application to Masiongale’s office, along
    with 13 other applications. He called Masiongale’s office
    two weeks later regarding his application and was put
    in contact with the supervisor at the Greenwood job-
    site, Michael Woods. Woods asked about his plumber’s
    license and prior experience, asked for his driver’s license
    number to do a background check, and offered him a
    position beginning that next Monday. Neal told Woods
    about a friend, Anthony Bane, who also had a plumber’s
    license and was looking for work. Woods asked Bane to
    call him, and after Woods asked about Bane’s plumber’s
    license, experience, and driver’s license number for a
    background check, Woods also offered Bane a position
    beginning that next Monday. Neither Neal nor Bane
    told Woods that they were union members.
    The next Monday morning, Woods asked Neal and Bane
    to fill out job applications and other paperwork, telling
    them that plumbers were needed for the 18-month job.
    Bane listed the union’s apprenticeship program on his
    job application, but Woods did not look over the applica-
    tions before telling Neal and Bane to report to their
    foreperson on the jobsite.
    Before Neal and Bane left Wood’s office to report to
    their foreperson, Bane told Woods that he and Neal were
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    union organizers. Woods’s demeanor apparently changed
    dramatically, as he slammed both hands down on his desk
    and told Neal and Bane to “sit in your truck until Mike
    Masiongale comes to the jobsite.” As they were leaving
    the office, Neal and Bane saw Woods make a telephone call.
    Woods then came to Neal and Bane’s truck and told
    them that Masiongale’s standard hiring procedure was
    to have a private detective conduct a background check
    before people were hired. Neither Bane nor Neal had
    previously been informed of a background check that
    required more than their driver’s license numbers. Bane
    and Neal reminded Woods of their conversations with
    him earlier, but Woods said, “Well, that is just part of it.”
    Bane told Woods as they were leaving the jobsite that
    they were there to do a good job, to which Woods replied,
    “no you didn’t, you are here to screw up my operation.”
    Bane telephoned Masiongale’s office when he returned
    home that day and scheduled an appointment to meet
    with the private detective, which he had to cancel due to
    a prior commitment. A second appointment was canceled
    by the company, and Bane never heard anything else
    about the background check or resuming work on the
    jobsite.
    Neal met with the private detective for about 30 minutes
    and was asked about his union background and affilia-
    tion. He did not hear anything from Masiongale for three
    weeks, so he called Masiongale’s office, and was told that
    they did not think he was still interested in a job. He
    said that he was still interested, and he was contacted
    the next day by a superintendent, John Blevins, who
    asked that he come to Masiongale’s office. Neal showed
    up at the office wearing a union T-shirt, and was asked to
    fill out additional paperwork and watch a safety film. He
    was offered $13 an hour instead of the earlier $14 offer.
    Neal then met with Mike Masiongale, who told Neal that
    he did not like Neal wearing the union T-shirt. Blevins
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    then told Neal that he would not be going to a jobsite,
    but would be working out of the office’s shop putting
    together shower faucet heads. Neal was shown the office’s
    storage garage and was told that it would be his work-
    space. After space was cleared out of the garage for him
    and a workbench improvised out of sawhorses and ply-
    wood, Neal told Blevins that he could not find any shower
    faucets. Blevins said that he would order some and asked
    Neal to cut some copper pipe.
    After Neal had begun cutting the pipe, Blevins and Mike
    Masiongale approached Neal, with Masiongale saying “that
    he did not want [Neal] talking about the union to his
    employees, handing out literature, and did not want him
    to talk to his employees about the Union on the job, in
    his office, or on his property.” Mike Masiongale also said
    that “he did not want the union, they messed with me
    before.” Neal told Blevins that Mike Masiongale did not
    have the right to talk to him that way, and that he was
    going on strike, packing his tools, and leaving the ga-
    rage. The next day, Neal returned to the garage to find
    that it was being used for storage and no one was work-
    ing there. Neal called Blevin and Woods, but none of
    his calls were returned.
    D. Procedural History
    The General Counsel of The Board issued a complaint
    against Masiongale, alleging violations of §§ 8(a)(3) and
    (1) of the Act, 
    29 U.S.C. §§ 158
    (a)(3) and (1), based on the
    coercion of Gravit and Jehl, the termination of Bane, the
    sequestration of Neal, and its failure to hire the 20 self-
    identified union organizers. The complaint alleged that
    Masiongale acted against these individuals because of
    their membership in the union. An administrative law
    judge conducted a hearing and recommended that the
    Board find the claims meritorious. The Board agreed
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    with the ALJ’s findings regarding coercion and work
    restrictions, making only minor alterations to the ALJ’s
    proposed order. See Masiongale Elec.-Mech., Inc., 
    331 N.L.R.B. 67
     (2000). However, it remanded the refusal-
    to-hire claim back to the ALJ to incorporate the Board’s
    newly-issued framework described in FES, (A Division of
    Thermo Power), 
    331 N.L.R.B. 20
     (2000), enforced by
    NLRB v. FES, (A Division of Thermo Power), 
    301 F.3d 83
    (3d Cir. 2002). On remand, the ALJ issued a supplemen-
    tal decision finding that Masiongale violated §§ 8(a)(3)
    and (1) of the Act when it refused to hire or consider
    for hire the 20 job applicants. The Board adopted the
    ALJ’s findings and the proposed order. See Masiongale
    Elec.-Mech., Inc., 
    337 N.L.R.B. 4
    .
    Masiongale petitions for review of both the original order
    and the supplementary order, and the Board cross-appeals
    for enforcement of both orders. On our own motion, we
    consolidated these cases.
    II. ANALYSIS
    We enforce orders of the Board if its factual findings
    are supported by substantial evidence and its legal con-
    clusions have a reasonable basis in law. See 
    29 U.S.C. § 160
    (e); Multi-Ad Servs., Inc. v. NLRB, 
    255 F.3d 363
    ,
    370 (7th Cir. 2001). There is substantial evidence if there
    is relevant evidence that a reasonable mind might accept
    as adequate to support the Board’s conclusion. See NLRB
    v. Clinton Elecs. Corp., 
    284 F.3d 731
    , 737 (7th Cir. 2002);
    Nat’l By-Prods., Inc. v. NLRB, 
    931 F.2d 445
    , 451, 
    137 L.R.R.M. (BNA) 2275
     (7th Cir. 1991). When reviewing the
    record, we defer to the Board’s inferences and conclusions
    drawn from facts, Clinton Elecs., 
    284 F.3d at 737
    ; U.S.
    Marine Corp. v. NLRB, 
    944 F.2d 1305
    , 1314 (7th Cir. 1991)
    (en banc), but must make sure that the Board’s findings
    fairly and accurately represent the record. See NLRB
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    v. Harvstone Mfg. Corp., 
    785 F.2d 570
    , 575 (7th Cir. 1986).
    We particularly defer to the Board’s findings regarding
    witness credibility, disturbing them only in extraordinary
    circumstances, e.g., clear bias by the ALJ, disregard of
    sworn testimony, or acceptance of testimony that is fa-
    cially not credible. Multi-Ad, 
    255 F.3d at
    370 (citing
    NLRB v. Gerig’s Dump Trucking, Inc., 
    137 F.3d 936
    , 941
    (7th Cir. 1998)). If we are faced with two conflicting ver-
    sions of an incident, the ALJ’s determinations are en-
    titled to deference. Multi-Ad, 
    255 F.3d at 370
    ; Van Vlerah
    Mech., Inc v. NLRB, 
    130 F.3d 1258
    , 1263 (7th Cir. 1997).
    A. Failure to Hire Twenty Self-Identified Voluntary Union
    Organizers
    Masiongale argues that the Board’s finding that it re-
    fused to hire 20 union members due to anti-union animus
    is erroneous because Masiongale had valid reasons for not
    hiring the applicants, satisfying its burden according to
    the Board’s new standards described in NLRB v. FES, (A
    Division of Thermo Power), 
    301 F.3d 83
     (3d Cir. 2002)
    (enforcing FES, (A Division of Thermo Power), 
    333 N.L.R.B. 20
     (2000)). In addition, it argues that the Board’s remedial
    order overreaches since there was no showing that there
    were enough openings to accommodate the rejected appli-
    cants to have filled, a requirement we established in
    Starcon, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    176 F.3d 948
     (7th Cir. 1999).
    However, given our deference to the Board, especially when
    judging witnesses’ credibility, we find that there is sub-
    stantial evidence to support the Board’s findings and en-
    force its order with regards to these un-hired applicants.
    In FES, the Board described a new burden-shifting
    framework to determine whether an employer violated
    § 8(a)(3) of the Act by refusing to hire an applicant because
    of anti-union animus. This modified the previous test
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    outlined in NLRB v. Transp. Mgmt. Corp., 
    462 U.S. 393
    (1983) (established by Wright Line, a Div. of Wright Line,
    Inc., 
    251 N.L.R.B. 1083
     (1980), enforced by 
    662 F.2d 899
    (1st Cir. 1981)). This change responded to numerous
    criticisms of the Wright Line test, see FES, 
    333 N.L.R.B. 20
    ,
    at *2-3 (summarizing cases), including our own concern
    that a prima facie refusal-to-hire case could be shown
    under the Wright Line framework in a mixed-motive
    case even though the applicants were not otherwise quali-
    fied for the sought-after position. See Starcon, 
    176 F.3d at 950-52
    .1 As described in FES, a prima facie refusal-to-
    hire case consists of showing:
    (1) that the respondent was hiring, or had concrete
    plans to hire, at the time of the alleged unlawful
    conduct;
    (2) that the applicants had experience or training
    relevant to the announced or generally known
    requirements of the positions for hire, or in the
    alternative, that the employer has not adhered
    uniformly to such requirements, or that the re-
    quirements were themselves pretextual or were
    applied as a pretext for discrimination; and
    1
    We used the following example:
    Suppose that one of the [applicants] for a job as a welder
    on one of Starcon’s turnaround projects was in fact a
    penguin wearing a [union] button. If Starcon turned
    down the penguin’s application, and there was proof that
    Starcon would never hire anyone wearing a [union]
    button, . . . it would be open to Starcon to prove that, in
    any event, it would never hire a penguin, because
    penguins can’t weld. But the burden of proving this
    would be on Starcon. We don’t see why the Board would
    have the burden of proving (if it could) that Starcon
    would hire nonunion penguins.
    Starcon, 
    176 F.3d at 951
    .
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    (3) that antiunion animus contributed to the de-
    cision not to hire the applicants.
    FES, 
    301 F.3d at 87
    . Once a prima facie case is estab-
    lished, it is the respondent’s burden to show that it would
    not have hired the applicants even absent their union
    activity or affiliation. See 
    id.
     We think that this frame-
    work addresses the concerns we described in Starcon,
    and concur with the Third Circuit’s approval of this test.
    See id.2
    To apply this framework, Masiongale’s anti-union animus
    must be demonstrated in connection with the decision to
    not hire all 20 applicants to present a prima facie refusal-
    to-hire case. See FES, 
    301 F.3d at 87
    . We agree with the
    Board that there is substantial evidence of animus, given
    the statement of Ken Masiongale, president of the com-
    pany, who told Neal that “he did not want the union,
    they messed with me before” when Neal was being se-
    questered in the company’s storage garage, and Woods’s
    telling Bane that “You came to screw up my operation.”
    Masiongale does not contest these and other statements
    displaying anti-union animus, nor does it dispute that
    the 13 plumbers who applied as a group by submit-
    ting their forms were licensed and therefore qualified to
    do the job advertised by Masiongale. Therefore, we find
    that a prima facie case of refusing to hire based on anti-
    union animus was presented to the Board under the FES
    framework.
    2
    Because the Board’s decision in FES was released after the
    ALJ issued his opinion in this case, the Board remanded the
    case back to the ALJ regarding these refusal-to-hire claims
    in order to take into account FES. Finding that he was able to
    apply the FES standard without taking additional evidence, the
    ALJ issued a supplementary order, which was adopted by the
    Board. See Masiongale Elec.-Mech., 
    337 N.L.R.B. 4
     (2001).
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    Masiongale argues that the 13 applicants whose forms
    were submitted en masse by Thomas Neal were sum-
    marily rejected because the applications were stale,
    not because of anti-union animus. Masiongale’s applica-
    tion form states above the signature line that “this ap-
    plication will be considered active for a period of 30 days
    only,” and Masiongale argues that since the forms were
    completed and dated January 1997, but not submitted
    to Masiongale until March 1997, the forms were stale
    when they were submitted and therefore not eligible for
    consideration. The rationale for not using old applications
    is straightforward—in an industry like construction, where
    work schedules are transitory, an applicant who submit-
    ted an application in April may have found work by June
    or July, making reliance on such applications an ineffi-
    cient use of time.
    A majority of the Board, however, found that the applica-
    tion of the 30-day rule was ambiguous. Masiongale main-
    tains that the time period begins running from the day
    the form is competed, since it believes that applicants
    only fill out forms when they are immediately available
    for work. The Board noted that this is not apparent from
    the language of the form and does not consider the pos-
    sibility that applicants may plan ahead in their job search,
    i.e., that applicants may complete the form in advance
    and have it ready and waiting when they begin looking
    for a new job. Whatever the interpretation of the 30-day
    rule, the Board found that Masiongale did not rely on the
    application process to hire new employees, and that it
    was a pretextual reason for rejecting those applicants
    that it did not want.3 The Board agreed with the ALJ’s
    3
    Masiongale claims that because these applications were
    untimely, the applicants could not show that they met the
    positions’ requirements, thereby failing to meet the second re-
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    finding that Ken Masiongale’s testimony regarding the
    company’s interpretation of the 30-day policy was not
    credible and cited numerous instances of hiring that
    took place without the benefit of an application. Several
    times, union representatives called Masiongale supervi-
    sors to recommend plumbers they knew were unem-
    ployed at the time. Every time, the recommended plumber
    was hired after arriving on the jobsite or at Masiongale’s
    offices without prior review of a written application.
    While Masiongale emphasizes its belief that the 30 days
    should start from the date of the application’s completion,
    not its submission to Masiongale, it offers no counter to
    the Board’s finding that the requirement was a pretextual
    one disguising anti-union animus.
    Masiongale also argues on appeal that there was no
    showing that there were enough vacancies at the time for
    the applicants to fill, making modification of the Board’s
    order warranted insofar as it orders instatement of the
    3
    (...continued)
    quirement of a prima facie case under FES. This misreads the
    requirement, which only asks whether “the applicants had ex-
    perience or training relevant to the announced or generally
    known requirements of the positions,” or that these requirements
    were pretextual. FES, 
    301 F.3d at 87
    . These requirements
    must be “based on nondiscriminatory, objective, and quantifiable
    employment criteria.” 
    Id. at 91
    . Since the advertisements only
    asked for licensed plumbers and assistants, these were the only
    objective criteria needed to evaluate the applicants for pur-
    poses of testing the Board’s prima facie case. Given the ambigu-
    ous interpretation of the timely application requirement, it
    was Masiongale’s burden to show that the applicants failed to
    satisfy that requirement, 
    id. at 91-92
    , and we defer to the Board’s
    determination that Masiongale failed to adequately show that
    this was in fact a requirement, and that it was not met by these
    applicants.
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    13 applicants. As we said in Starcon, the Board must
    demonstrate that at least one such applicant would have
    been hired, but only one, in order to establish a violation
    of the Act. See Starcon, 
    176 F.3d at 951
    . Since the Board
    is bringing the claim, not the spurned applicant, a one-for-
    one correlation is not necessary to establish a violation.
    See 
    id.
     However, Starcon also requires the Board to show
    that positions were available for every rejected applicant
    if the cease and desist order includes, as here, relief
    directed at individuals. See 
    id.
     While this argument may
    have merit, Masiongale never included this in its state-
    ment of objections to the ALJ’s original or supplemental
    decisions. Because Masiongale failed to present this ob-
    jection to the Board, it is waived for purposes of appeal,
    and we need not consider it. See NLRB v. Howard Immel,
    Inc., 
    102 F.3d 948
    , 951 (7th Cir. 1996); NLRB v. Augusta
    Bakery Corp., 
    957 F.2d 1467
    , 1478 (7th Cir. 1992); 
    29 C.F.R. §§ 46
    (b), (h).
    In addition to the 13 applicants who submitted their
    forms as a group, the Board found that Masiongale vio-
    lated § 8(a)(3) by refusing to hire the seven union mem-
    bers who contacted the company individually and submit-
    ted application forms in person. Masiongale claims that
    it did not hire these applicants because of its “wage his-
    tory” rule, i.e., it believed that it is undesirable to hire
    workers accustomed to receiving a higher hourly wage
    than Masiongale would offer, since these workers would
    leave for a better-paying job as soon as one was avail-
    able, the employee would not do a good a job, and additional
    time would be spent negotiating wage rates. The Board
    found the wage history rule a pretextual qualification used
    to justify not hiring union-affiliated applicants, pointing
    out instances when Masiongale hired non-union appli-
    cants whose prior wage history included jobs paying higher
    rates than Masiongale’s rates.
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    Masiongale contests the accuracy of these comparisons,
    but we need not resolve this factual debate. Here, the
    Board’s findings are not an inaccurate distortion of the
    record. See Multi-Ad, 
    255 F.3d at 370
    . While we note the
    contested versions of the wage history for non-union-
    affiliated applicants and defer to the Board’s view, we
    also note that one of the two application forms submitted
    to the ALJ does not ask for an applicant’s wage history.
    Because the four August 1997 applicants used the form
    with no space for wage history, we find it difficult to see
    how they could be rejected because of their prior wage
    history, and see this as further evidence of the require-
    ment’s pretextual nature. Therefore, we agree with the
    Board that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that
    Masiongale’s wage-history rule was pretextual and that
    the seven applicants were not considered because of
    Masiongale’s anti-Union animus. We accordingly enforce
    the portion of the order regarding these 20 applicants.
    B. Gary Gravit and Jeff Jehl’s Coercion
    The ALJ and the Board found that Curd’s interrogation
    of Gravit and Jehl violated Section 8(a)(1) of the Act, 
    29 U.S.C. §158
    (a)(1), which forbids an employer from interfer-
    ing with, restraining, or coercing employees who exercise
    their right to self-organization. 
    29 U.S.C. § 157
    . This right
    includes freedom from employers coercively interrogat-
    ing employees to discourage union activities. See Multi-
    Ad, 
    255 F.3d at
    371 (citing Van Vlerah, 
    130 F.3d at 1262
    ). The Board found that there was substantial evi-
    dence that Curd interrogated Gravit and Jehl when, after
    Curd had talked with two individuals wearing union
    jackets, he asked Gravit and Jehl if either of them knew
    the individuals, and then inquired if Gravit and Jehl
    belonged to the union. Curd also was found to have coer-
    cively interrogated Gravit and Jehl when he asked them,
    16               Nos. 00-3194, 00-3576, 02-1227 & 02-1591
    after they announced that they were striking for better
    wages, “are you both union members and are you both go-
    ing out on strike?”
    In Multi-Ad, we described our concerns regarding
    whether an interrogation is coercive, noting that:
    The test is not whether coercion actually occurred,
    but only whether the employee perceived the em-
    ployer’s actions to be coercive. Factors that ought
    to be considered in deciding whether a particular
    inquiry is coercive include the tone, duration, and
    purpose of the questioning, whether it is repeated,
    how many workers are involved, the setting, the
    authority of the person asking the question, and
    whether the company otherwise had shown hos-
    tility to the union. We also consider whether ques-
    tions about protected activity are accompanied
    by assurances against reprisal and whether the
    interrogated worker feels constrained to lie or give
    noncommittal answers rather than answering
    truthfully.
    Multi-Ad, 
    255 F.3d at 372
     (internal citations omitted).
    We do not find that Curd’s questioning of Gravit and
    Jehl was coercive in a manner that violated the Act. Curd’s
    questions do not suggest an intent to force Gravit and
    Jehl to compromise the union or any plans they may
    have had as union representatives. His first questions
    were simple and direct, and after Gravit and Jehl an-
    swered him, he left them to work, making no comments
    about how he felt about the union or his reaction to the
    two union representatives that he had talked to earlier.
    Similarly, Curd’s questions to Gravit and Jehl, after they
    told him they were going on strike, reflect an attempt
    to clarify the situation, since he did not know until then
    that the two were union members. Gravit and Jehl gave
    no indication that they were members during the applica-
    Nos. 00-3194, 00-3576, 02-1227 & 02-1591                17
    tion process, and it was not evident that they were union
    members until their second day of work, when they wore
    their union jackets and passed out literature. Also, Curd
    never gave any hint of reprisal in his questioning. Even
    though Masiongale’s position regarding the union was
    apparent, and there was an informational picket set up
    next to the jobsite by one of the union’s locals, such fac-
    tors do not automatically make any questioning regard-
    ing union matters coercive. Section 8(c) of the Act al-
    lows employers to express “any views, argument, or opinion,
    or the dissemination thereof” so long as “such expression
    contains no threat of reprisal or force or promise of bene-
    fit.” 
    29 U.S.C. § 158
    (c). Because these views can include
    organized anti-union campaigns, see Beverly Cal. Corp. v.
    N.L.R.B., 
    227 F.3d 817
    , 832 (7th Cir. 2000), to consider
    Curd’s questioning of Gravit and Jehl coercive under
    § 8(a)(1) of the Act would gut the First Amendment free-
    doms protected by § 8(c).
    We take a different view regarding Curd’s comments to
    Jehl when Jehl attempted to return to the jobsite after
    going on strike. Upon learning that the jobsite was in
    need of help, Jehl returned to the site and offered his
    unconditional services to Curd, who laughed and said,
    “around here you are considered a marked man, everyone
    on the job has a hunting license and shotguns.” Masiongale
    argues that employers have greater latitude when ques-
    tioning organizers like Jehl and Gravit, as compared to
    ordinary employees, since they are less likely to submit
    to coercion, citing Rossmore House, 
    269 NLRB 1176
     (1984),
    enforced 
    760 F.2d 1006
     (9th Cir. 1985). That union organiz-
    ers have a thicker skin when it comes to treatment by
    employers does not mean that we can tolerate threats of
    violence directed against them. While the threat may
    have been in jest or not taken seriously by Jehl, when
    statements can have multiple interpretations, we defer
    to the ALJ’s interpretation, and therefore enforce this
    portion of the order. See Multi-Ad, 
    255 F.3d at 370
    .
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    C. Jack Neal and Anthony Bane’s Application Process
    Masiongale argues that Bane was not discharged as a
    result of anti-union animus because Bane was never
    hired in the first place. The ALJ found that Bane was
    discharged when Masiongale failed to schedule a follow-up
    appointment with its private detective after the detective
    canceled the appointment. Masiongale argues that since
    the interview with the detective was a part of the appli-
    cation process, and Bane never completed that process, he
    was never employed. Indeed, Masiongale claims that
    Bane had an obligation to contact the company and sched-
    ule another appointment, and failure to do so was evi-
    dence of his disinterest in the position.
    We need not mull over whether or not Bane was hired
    by Masiongale, given the Board’s findings regarding the
    interview requirement itself. The Board adopted the
    ALJ’s finding that Masiongale violated § 8(a)(1) of the Act
    when it suddenly required the interview with a private
    detective, describing it as part of the job application proc-
    ess. Given the Board’s view of the interview as a necessary
    pre-requisite to employment, Bane could not have been
    hired by Masiongale because he did not complete the
    (suddenly changed) application process. This is a pyrrhic
    victory for Masiongale, however, because we only come
    to our quick conclusion due to Masiongale’s failure to ob-
    ject to the Board’s finding that the interview requirement
    itself was imposed due to anti-union animus. Because
    Masiongale has waived any appeal regarding the inter-
    view requirement, we summarily enforce this portion of
    the Board’s order. See Beverly Cal., 
    227 F.3d at 831
    .
    Masiongale has likewise waived any appeal of the
    Board’s finding that Neal was sequestered from other
    employees to prevent him from engaging in union activ-
    ities, a violation of § 8(a)(1) of the Act. Neal revealed that
    he was a union organizer, and having met with the detec-
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    tive, reported for work. Instead of reporting to the jobsite,
    he was ordered to do what can only be described as busy-
    work tasks, told not to wear clothing bearing union insig-
    nia and not to discuss union activities with anyone on
    company property or company job sites. Since Masiongale
    does not contest these findings, the Board is entitled to
    summary enforcement of its order regarding Neal’s se-
    questration and restrictions of discussing union activities
    as well. See id.
    III. CONCLUSION
    For the reasons stated above, the Board’s orders are
    ENFORCED in part, VACATED in part, and remanded for
    further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
    A true Copy:
    Teste:
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    Clerk of the United States Court of
    Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
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