Alfredo Miranda v. County of Lake ( 2018 )


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  •                                In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 17-1603
    ALFREDO MIRANDA, Administrator of Estate of Lyvita Gomes,
    Plaintiff-Appellant,
    v.
    COUNTY OF LAKE, et al.,
    Defendants-Appellees.
    ____________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division.
    No. 12 C 4439 — Sharon Johnson Coleman, Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED DECEMBER 6, 2017 — DECIDED AUGUST 10, 2018
    ____________________
    Before WOOD, Chief Judge, and EASTERBROOK and
    HAMILTON, Circuit Judges.
    WOOD, Chief Judge. In the fall of 2011, Lyvita Gomes failed
    to show up for jury duty. This minor infraction triggered a
    series of events that led to her untimely death in the early days
    of 2012. She wound up in the county jail, where she refused
    to eat and drink. The medical providers who worked at the
    Jail did little other than monitoring as she wasted away in her
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    cell. By the time she was sent to the hospital, it was too late to
    save her.
    Alfredo Miranda, the administrator of Gomes’s estate,
    brought an action under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 and assorted state-
    law theories against Lake County, the Jail officials (the
    “County defendants”), and Correct Care Solutions (CCS, the
    Jail’s contract medical provider) and its employees (the “med-
    ical defendants”). The district court dismissed the County de-
    fendants at summary judgment. The medical defendants pro-
    ceeded to trial, but halfway through the proceeding the court
    granted judgment as a matter of law under Federal Rule of
    Civil Procedure 50(a) for them on some claims. The Estate pre-
    vailed to a modest degree on another claim, and part of the
    case resulted in a mistrial. Our principal ruling in response to
    the Estate’s appeal is that the Rule 50(a) judgment was prem-
    ature, and so further proceedings are necessary.
    I
    A
    On October 12, 2011, an officer arrested Gomes, a 52-year-
    old Indian national, for failing to appear for jury duty. (In
    hindsight, this was the County’s first misstep: as a non-citi-
    zen, Gomes was categorically ineligible to serve as a juror.
    705 ILCS 305/2(a)(4).) Gomes pulled away from the officer as
    he attempted to arrest her. That action earned her a second
    charge of resisting arrest. The officers took Gomes to
    Lake County Jail, where she made statements that landed her
    on suicide watch the next day. But she did not stay at the Jail
    long. On October 14, Gomes was transferred to the custody of
    the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) ser-
    vice, which released her within a few days.
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    Roughly two months later, on December 14, after failing
    to appear in court on the resisting-arrest charge, Gomes found
    herself back in the Lake County Jail. Though officials initially
    placed her in the general population, it quickly became appar-
    ent that her physical and mental health were deteriorating,
    and so she was moved.
    On December 16, CCS’s Director of Mental Health,
    Jennifer Bibbiano (a social worker), performed a mental
    health evaluation on Gomes. Bibbiano documented that
    Gomes had ingested no food or water since arriving at the Jail
    two days earlier. As a result, Gomes was transferred the next
    day to the Jail’s medical pod for closer monitoring. On
    December 18, staff placed Gomes on suicide watch and the
    hunger strike protocol. At that point, after she had gone four
    days without food or water, staff weighed her for the first time
    and recorded a weight of 146 pounds. Over the next ten days,
    this number plummeted; by December 28, Gomes weighed
    only 128 pounds.
    During this period, social workers and physicians contin-
    ued to assess Gomes daily. Defendant Dr. Rozel Elazegui, an
    internist, saw Gomes on December 22 and 27. In several pro-
    gress notes, the CCS staff reported various symptoms of de-
    hydration, such as skin tenting. Gomes’s refusal to eat or
    drink and her unresponsiveness often prevented the medical
    staff from recording her vital signs and collecting any blood
    or urine samples. For most of this time, Gomes lay in bed and
    refused to speak.
    As Gomes’s physical condition worsened, concerns about
    her mental state grew. When Gomes appeared in court on De-
    cember 20, the judge ordered a mental fitness examination.
    On December 22, Gomes was identified as needing an urgent
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    psychiatric visit. That prompted a visit two days later from
    psychiatrist Hargurmukh Singh, who first met Gomes then
    and diagnosed her with a “psychotic disorder not otherwise
    specified.” He prescribed no medication. After seeing Gomes
    again on December 27, Dr. Singh concluded that her psycho-
    sis rendered her unable to understand the risks of not eating
    and unable to participate in her treatment plan. But his only
    advice to Dr. Elazegui, who wanted to perform an involun-
    tary blood draw for monitoring purposes, was that Elazegui
    could do so if push came to shove.
    Around this time the officials in charge of Lake County Jail
    entered the picture. On December 26, Wayne Hunter, the Jail’s
    acting chief, was first notified by email that Gomes was in the
    Jail and was refusing medical treatment and tests. Hunter re-
    ceived assurances that CCS staff were monitoring Gomes’s
    condition and that they would provide him with any updates.
    Two days later, Hunter personally went down to Gomes’s cell
    in a futile attempt to persuade her to eat. On December 27,
    Scott Fitch, the liaison between the correctional and medical
    staff, learned about Gomes. He too asked for updates. Fitch
    called Gomes’s public defender, entreating her to visit and en-
    courage her client to eat. Sheriff Mark Curran did not hear
    about Gomes until December 29, the day she left the Jail. That
    same day, Jail officials went to court to get Gomes formally
    released from custody.
    Also on December 29, Dr. Young Kim, another CCS intern-
    ist, returned to work from a vacation. Dr. Kim was surprised
    to learn that Gomes had remained in the Jail while continuing
    to refuse all food and drink. (A few stray comments in
    Gomes’s medical records suggest that she may have rubbed
    water on her body and perhaps taken a few sips of water from
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    her sink. But the record as a whole implies little to no water
    intake.) Dr. Kim immediately called an ambulance to take
    Gomes to the hospital for evaluation and treatment of her de-
    hydration and psychosis. Unfortunately, this intervention
    came too late. On January 3, 2012, five days after arriving at
    the hospital, Gomes died. The autopsy opined that she died
    of “Complications of Starvation and Dehydration.” The man-
    ner of death was suicide.
    B
    The Estate filed this action against Lake County,
    Sheriff Curran, Hunter, Fitch, CCS, Dr. Elazegui, Dr. Singh,
    Bibbiano, and two more social workers, Ruth Muuru and
    Edith Jones. It raised due process claims under 42 U.S.C.
    § 1983, state statutory and common law tort claims, violations
    of international treaty obligations, and claims under the
    Americans with Disabilities Act, 42 U.S.C. § 12101 et seq. Only
    the claims against the medical defendants went to trial.
    But the jury never had the opportunity to resolve some of
    those claims. At the close of the Estate’s presentation of evi-
    dence, the court entered judgment as a matter of law under
    Rule 50(a) for social workers Muuru and Jones on all claims
    against them. The court also concluded that the Estate had
    failed to present enough evidence to reach the jury on the
    question whether the medical defendants caused Gomes’s
    death; it therefore granted them judgment as a matter of law
    on that part of the case. The only question remaining for the
    jury was the Estate’s due process claim for inadequate medi-
    cal care, limited to the pain and suffering Gomes experienced
    while in the Jail. The jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict
    regarding the conduct of Dr. Elazegui and Dr. Singh but it
    held social worker Bibbiano liable. It awarded the Estate
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    $119,000 in compensatory damages, which Bibbiano has paid
    in full.
    The Estate does not challenge the jury verdict, but it takes
    issue with four aspects of the proceedings below: first, the dis-
    trict court’s dismissal of the County defendants; second, the
    judgment as a matter of law on causation of death; third, the
    court’s ruling barring the Estate from pursuing one of its the-
    ories of recovery under the Due Process Clause; and fourth,
    the court’s instruction on the applicable legal standard. While
    we find no merit in its first point, we conclude on the latter
    three that the Estate is entitled to the opportunity to try its full
    case against the medical defendants before a jury.
    II
    A
    We start with the Estate’s attempt to revive some of the
    claims against the County defendants. It first challenges the
    district court’s conclusion that the Jail’s chief, Hunter, and li-
    aison, Fitch, were not deliberately indifferent to Gomes’s in-
    adequate medical care in violation of her due process rights.
    We need not delve into the nuances of the standard for such a
    claim, because the Estate faces an insurmountable hurdle in-
    dependent of that standard. We have long recognized the fact
    that correctional institutions (like most entities in a modern
    economy) engage in the division of labor. See Greeno v. Daley,
    
    414 F.3d 645
    , 656 (7th Cir. 2005) (citation omitted). When de-
    tainees are under the care of medical experts, non-medical jail
    staff may generally trust the professionals to provide appro-
    priate medical attention. E.g., Rice ex rel. Rice v. Corr. Med.
    Servs., 
    675 F.3d 650
    , 676, 678–79 (7th Cir. 2012); see also Rasho
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    v. Elyea, 
    856 F.3d 469
    , 478–79 (7th Cir. 2017) (holding that med-
    ical professionals were not liable when sued in their capacity
    as “prison administrators and policymakers, not treaters”).
    We will not find a jail official to have acted with deliberate
    indifference if she reasonably relied on the judgment of med-
    ical personnel. E.g., 
    Greeno, 414 F.3d at 655
    –56; Estate of Perry
    v. Wenzel, 
    872 F.3d 439
    , 458–59 (7th Cir. 2017). On the other
    hand, if jail officials had reason to know that their medical
    staff were failing to treat or inadequately treating an inmate,
    liability is possible. King v. Kramer, 
    680 F.3d 1013
    , 1018 (7th
    Cir. 2012); 
    Rice, 675 F.3d at 676
    .
    Nothing in this record justifies a finding of personal liabil-
    ity against the County defendants. Hunter and Fitch received
    assurances that CCS staff were regularly monitoring Gomes.
    They requested periodic updates on her condition. The med-
    ical providers informed Hunter and Fitch that Gomes was sta-
    ble and promised to send her to the hospital if necessary.
    Knowing that the CCS employees were on the case, Hunter
    and Fitch were entitled to rely on their professional judg-
    ments. See Arnett v. Webster, 
    658 F.3d 742
    , 756 (7th Cir. 2011)
    (“This is not a case where [the plaintiff] was being completely
    ignored by medical staff.”). The fact that they expressed con-
    cern about Gomes’s condition and tried directly and indi-
    rectly to get her to eat does not make them culpable.
    Because we find that Fitch and Hunter’s reasonable reli-
    ance on their medical providers shields them from liability
    under section 1983, we need not consider the County defend-
    ants’ alternative arguments for dismissal.
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    B
    While the Estate has apparently abandoned its claim that
    Sheriff Curran is individually liable for Gomes’s inadequate
    medical care, it is still trying to pursue an official-capacity
    claim about the Jail’s allegedly deficient hunger-strike policy.
    As an Illinois sheriff, Curran has final policymaking authority
    over jail operations. DeGenova v. Sheriff of DuPage Cnty.,
    
    209 F.3d 973
    , 976 (7th Cir. 2000). He is thus a proper party for
    a claim under Monell v. Department of Social Services of
    New York, 
    436 U.S. 658
    , 690–91 (1978), targeted at policies and
    customs that deprive inmates of their federal rights. 
    Id. Monell liability
    is possible even if no individual official is found de-
    liberately indifferent. Glisson v. Ind. Dep’t of Corr., 
    849 F.3d 372
    ,
    379 (7th Cir. 2017) (en banc).
    The focus of the Estate’s Monell claim is Lake County Jail’s
    hunger-strike policy. That policy required four things: (1) the
    immediate notification of medical staff when an inmate be-
    gins a hunger strike; (2) documentation of meal refusals and
    immediate notification of a command officer after an inmate’s
    third consecutive meal refusal; (3) the command’s investiga-
    tion and communication with medical staff as needed; and
    (4) a conference including the health services administrator
    and the chief or deputy chief of corrections about the best
    course of action. The Estate finds the policy lacking in some
    respects, including the timing of notification and consulta-
    tion, follow-up procedures if the hunger strike continues,
    methods to review past suicidality, and guidance on what to
    look for and how to document an inmate’s condition on sui-
    cide watch.
    The Estate’s concerns may be valid, but it has not shown
    that the Sheriff was deliberately indifferent in enacting this
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    policy. Though hunger strikes may be common in jails, as
    amici suggest, Gomes went longer without food and water
    than anyone else in the Jail’s experience. This does not give
    the Sheriff a free pass, since a single incident can be enough
    for liability where a constitutional violation was highly fore-
    seeable. Woodward v. Corr. Med. Serv. of Ill., Inc., 
    368 F.3d 917
    ,
    929 (7th Cir. 2004) (rejecting the notion of a “‘one free suicide’
    pass”). But this is not a case in which the Jail knew that hunger
    strikes were a risk yet did nothing. It had a system in place,
    and that system included a series of reasonable measures.
    The Estate presented no evidence that would allow a trier
    of fact to conclude that some feature in the Jail’s policy caused
    Gomes’s death. Once Jail staff learned about her refusal to eat
    or drink, they stayed in regular communication with CCS’s
    medical personnel. See Belbachir v. Cnty. of McHenry, 
    726 F.3d 975
    , 983 (7th Cir. 2013). It is unclear whether anyone con-
    nected the dots between Gomes’s suicidal statements in Octo-
    ber and her condition in December, but that is irrelevant be-
    cause staff identified Gomes as actively suicidal almost from
    the start of her second detention. There is no reason to think
    that additional guidance in the hunger-strike policy would
    have made a difference in Gomes’s deterioration. Summary
    judgment was appropriate on this Monell claim.
    C
    We can be brief with the Estate’s complaint that the
    County defendants failed to comply with their international
    treaty obligations. Article 36 of the Vienna Convention guar-
    antees a foreign national the right to have her home country’s
    consular office notified when she is detained. Vienna Conven-
    tion on Consular Relations, art. 36, Apr. 24, 1963, 21 U.S.T. 77;
    Sandoval v. United States, 
    574 F.3d 847
    , 850 (7th Cir. 2009).
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    When Gomes, an Indian national, was detained in October,
    ICE officials informed her of her Article 36 rights. No one re-
    peated this advice when Gomes was taken back into custody
    in December. Still, we think summary judgment is appropri-
    ate, though for reasons different from those mentioned by the
    district court.
    The district court was concerned that the Estate failed to
    mention section 1983 when raising this claim, see Jogi v. Voges,
    
    480 F.3d 822
    , 825 (7th Cir. 2007) (Jogi II), but “complaints need
    not plead legal theories,” and so that alone does not support
    dismissal, see 
    id. at 826.
    Another strike against the Estate, ac-
    cording to the district court, was the lack of evidence connect-
    ing Gomes’s death with the failure to notify. Indeed, when
    given the opportunity to speak with the Indian consulate in
    October, Gomes chose not to do so. Nonetheless, we have yet
    to explore the question whether a plaintiff is required to show
    actual harm in order to recover for an Article 36 violation, or
    if this is more in the nature of a failure to receive required Mi-
    randa warnings.
    We need not wrestle with that issue now, however, be-
    cause our case is easily resolved on the more straightforward
    ground of qualified immunity. The County officials are im-
    mune from suit if it was not clearly established in 2011 that
    their conduct violated the Vienna Convention. See Pearson v.
    Callahan, 
    555 U.S. 223
    , 245 (2009). Article 36 charges “compe-
    tent authorities” with notifying foreign nationals. The term
    “competent authorities” includes booking officers. Mordi v.
    Zeigler, 
    770 F.3d 1161
    , 1166–1167 (7th Cir. 2014). Consistent
    with this precedent, the Jail’s written policy places the notifi-
    cation obligation exclusively with booking officers. But the
    Estate did not sue the officer who booked Gomes. And, as we
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    acknowledged in 2014, the boundaries of who else might
    qualify as a competent authority have “yet to be fixed.” 
    Mordi, 770 F.3d at 1167
    . Because it was not clearly established who,
    beyond the booking officer, had a duty to inform Gomes of
    her consular rights, the County defendants are entitled to
    qualified immunity.
    D
    The Estate also seeks to reinstate a Monell claim based on
    the County’s alleged failure to train Jail staff to notify detain-
    ees of their consular rights. A failure-to-train claim is actiona-
    ble only if the failure amounted to deliberate indifference to
    the rights of others. City of Canton v. Harris, 
    489 U.S. 378
    , 388
    (1989). Deliberate indifference exists where the defendant
    (1) failed “to provide adequate training in light of foreseeable
    consequences”; or (2) failed “to act in response to repeated
    complaints of constitutional violations by its officers.” Sorn-
    berger v. City of Knoxville, 
    434 F.3d 1006
    , 1029–30 (7th Cir.
    2006). In essence, the defendant must have actual or construc-
    tive notice of a problem. See Robles v. City of Fort Wayne, 
    113 F.3d 732
    , 735 (7th Cir. 1997).
    Here, Sheriff Curran had neither. The Estate points to no
    evidence indicating that detainees repeatedly complained
    about the absence of consular notification. The parties try to
    paint the problem as rampant or nonexistent, but the record
    does not support either extreme.
    Sheriff Curran did not fail to act in the face of foreseeable
    violations. Lake County Jail has had a policy about consular
    notification since at least October 2005. In addition to requir-
    ing booking officers to inform detainees, the policy specified
    that all officers who work at the booking desk “shall receive
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    appropriate training,” including a video, handouts, and a
    training session. Sheriff Curran testified that he knew about
    this policy and was never notified that it was not being fol-
    lowed. Thus, at most, Sheriff Curran was negligent in failing
    to ensure that the Jail’s training protocol was being imple-
    mented. This is not enough to establish that he was deliber-
    ately indifferent to detainees’ rights. See 
    Rice, 675 F.3d at 675
    (requiring that “the failure to train reflect[] a conscious choice
    among alternatives”). The Sheriff did not display deliberate
    indifference, and so we need not consider the County defend-
    ants’ alternative arguments.
    III
    We turn now to the Estate’s claims against Drs. Elazegui
    and Singh, which the district court partially blocked on the
    ground that there was not enough evidence of causation to
    reach the jury. Though the Estate assigns error to the court’s
    ruling on a motion in limine and its jury instruction, we need
    reach these decisions only if we reverse on causation. This is
    because neither ruling prejudiced the Estate on the claim that
    did go to the jury. Under the single recovery rule, defendants
    are jointly and severally liable for the full amount of compen-
    satory damages that result from an indivisible harm; a plain-
    tiff can recover only once for those damages. Janusz v. City of
    Chi., 
    832 F.3d 770
    , 774, 777 (7th Cir. 2016); Minix v. Canarecci,
    
    597 F.3d 824
    , 829–30 (7th Cir. 2010). The Estate has already
    been fully compensated for Gomes’s suffering at the Jail, since
    Bibbiano paid the assessed $119,000. It has not, however, re-
    ceived any compensation for Gomes’s death. We thus turn to
    the question whether that issue too should have gone to the
    jury.
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    A
    The court granted judgment as a matter of law on the Es-
    tate’s constitutional and state-law wrongful death claims
    against Drs. Elazegui and Singh because it thought that no ra-
    tional jury could conclude that their actions caused Gomes’s
    death. It identified two evidentiary gaps: first, the lack of ex-
    pert testimony explaining what the notation of “Complica-
    tions of Starvation and Dehydration” in the autopsy report
    meant and how those complications related to Gomes’s death;
    and second, the lack of expert testimony about what took
    place during the five days between Gomes’s transfer to the
    hospital and her death. We consider this decision de novo.
    Holder v. Ill. Dep’t of Corr., 
    751 F.3d 486
    , 490 (7th Cir. 2014).
    We start with the Estate’s claim under the Fourteenth
    Amendment’s Due Process clause for inadequate medical
    care.1 Although Dr. Elazegui and Dr. Singh were employed by
    a private company that contracted with Lake County to pro-
    vide detainees’ medical care, they are considered state actors
    amenable to suit under section 1983. West v. Atkins, 
    487 U.S. 42
    , 54–56 (1988). They are not, however, entitled to qualified
    immunity. Petties v. Carter, 
    836 F.3d 722
    , 734 (7th Cir. 2016)
    (en banc). Moreover, they concede both that Gomes’s medical
    condition was objectively serious and that the evidence would
    have permitted the jury to conclude the doctors acted with
    1 We do so because this was the claim that supports the district court’s
    subject-matter jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. §§ 1331 and 1343; the Estate
    relied on the court’s supplemental jurisdiction, 28 U.S.C. § 1367, for its
    state-law theories. It is possible that the alienage branch of diversity juris-
    diction may also have existed, see 28 U.S.C. § 1332(a)(2), but this was not
    explored.
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    deliberate indifference. Our focus is thus exclusively on cau-
    sation.
    To recover on its due process claim, the Estate had to pre-
    sent “‘verifying medical evidence’ that the delay” in medical
    care “caused some degree of harm.” Williams v. Liefer, 
    491 F.3d 710
    , 715 (7th Cir. 2007) (citation omitted). It did not, however,
    bear the burden of proving that but for the medical defend-
    ants’ inaction, Gomes would definitely have lived. It would
    have been enough for the Estate to show that the resulting
    harm was a diminished chance of survival. See Murrey v.
    United States, 
    73 F.3d 1448
    , 1453–54 (7th Cir. 1996); Holton v.
    Mem’l Hosp., 
    176 Ill. 2d 95
    , 119 (1997) (recognizing the lost
    chance doctrine in Illinois). While expert testimony could be
    used as “verifying medical evidence,” medical records alone
    could suffice. Grieveson v. Anderson, 
    538 F.3d 763
    , 779 (7th Cir.
    2008); 
    Williams, 491 F.3d at 715
    .
    The record contains ample evidence from which a jury
    could infer that Drs. Elazegui and Singh’s inaction dimin-
    ished Gomes’s chances of survival. First, it shows that she
    died from starvation and dehydration. Under Illinois law, au-
    topsy reports are prima facie evidence of their findings and
    conclusions, including cause of death. 725 ILCS 5/115-5.1. The
    report here did not mince words about Gomes’s cause of
    death—“Complications of Starvation and Dehydration”—or
    her manner of death—“suicide.” The coroner implicitly ruled
    out the possibility that Gomes died from any hospital-based
    illnesses or other causes. The report is clear: not eating or
    drinking caused her death. (Hospital records underscore this
    conclusion. On the day she arrived at the hospital, Gomes was
    already experiencing acute liver and renal failure. For present
    purposes, however, we disregard these records, because they
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    were excluded from trial at the request of the medical defend-
    ants, and the Estate has not challenged that exclusion on ap-
    peal.)
    Moreover, the Estate’s expert witnesses testified that the
    doctors’ failure to transfer Gomes to the hospital sooner al-
    lowed her deterioration to reach a dangerous point. Psychia-
    try expert Dr. James Gilligan repeatedly testified that
    Dr. Singh contributed to Gomes’s death by failing to initiate
    her transfer from the Jail to the hospital. Furthermore,
    Dr. Singh (a psychiatrist, recall) knew that Gomes was clini-
    cally incompetent, but he took no steps to treat her even
    though she was endangering her life. Dr. Gilligan concluded
    that Dr. Singh’s “failure to act … contributed to [Gomes’s]
    death.” Internal medicine expert Dr. Jack Raba testified that
    Gomes’s pulse on December 25 was an “ominous sign,” rais-
    ing the possibility of cardiovascular problems, electrolyte or
    metabolic imbalances, or renal failure. He added that Gomes’s
    blood pressure clearly indicated dehydration. Dr. Raba said it
    was “impossible” not to consider that Gomes was starting to
    show signs of organ failure. These “absolute signs” signaled
    that Gomes urgently needed to be admitted to a hospital for
    bloodwork and possibly forced feeding and medication.
    Dr. Raba concluded that Dr. Elazegui’s failure to intervene
    “contributed to [Gomes’s] ultimate demise and death.”
    The prison doctors’ testimony lent support to Dr. Raba’s
    expert opinion on causation. When Dr. Elazegui spoke with
    Gomes on December 22, he informed her that starvation
    risked organ failure and death. He asked to be informed when
    her weight loss hit 18%, since that number indicates an in-
    creased risk of organ failure. Dr. Kim’s testimony was also rel-
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    evant to the causation question. When he returned from vaca-
    tion, he was concerned that Gomes could go into respiratory
    failure or cardiac arrest at any minute (and unlike the others,
    he promptly acted on this concern).
    Taken together, this evidence was enough to support an
    inference on the jury’s part that the delay in sending Gomes
    to the hospital resulted in her death, or at least lessened her
    chance of survival.
    Our analysis applies with equal force to the Estate’s state
    malpractice claims. See 740 ILCS 180/1. Under this theory, the
    Estate had to show that the physicians’ negligent failure to
    comply with the standard of care proximately caused
    Gomes’s injury. See Sullivan v. Edward Hosp., 
    209 Ill. 2d 100
    ,
    112 (2004). In Illinois, proximate cause “must be established
    by expert testimony to a reasonable degree of medical cer-
    tainty.” Morisch v. United States, 
    653 F.3d 522
    , 531 (7th Cir.
    2011) (citation omitted). An expert’s opinion on the connec-
    tion between a delay in treatment and injury must be factually
    supported in order to be submitted to the jury. Wiedenbeck v.
    Searle, 
    385 Ill. App. 3d 289
    , 293–94 (2008).
    The proximate-cause inquiry encompasses both cause-in-
    fact and legal cause. Palay v. United States, 
    349 F.3d 418
    , 432
    (7th Cir. 2003). For there to be legal cause, a reasonable person
    must have been able to foresee that the plaintiff’s injury
    would result from his conduct. 
    Id. For cause-in-fact,
    the plain-
    tiff must show that but for the defendant’s conduct, the injury
    would not have occurred. 
    Id. Again, the
    injury can be the de-
    cedent’s lost chance at survival. 
    Holton, 176 Ill. 2d at 119
    .
    A jury would have been permitted to find legal cause here.
    By their own admission, Drs. Elazegui and Singh knew that if
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    Gomes continued to refuse food and fluids, she could die.
    They warned her as much. The record also contained support
    for cause-in-fact. The experts opined that the medical defend-
    ants’ inaction contributed to Gomes’s death. This was not im-
    permissibly conclusory for an expert opinion. See FED. R.
    EVID. 705; see also Wilson v. Clark, 
    84 Ill. 2d 186
    , 196 (1981)
    (adopting Federal Rule of Evidence 705 for Illinois). The med-
    ical defendants are right that an expert’s testimony in a mal-
    practice case cannot be based on “sheer, unsubstantiated
    speculation.” 
    Wiedenbeck, 385 Ill. App. 3d at 293
    . But the opin-
    ions here suffered from no such flaw, and the defendants
    were free to cross-examine the experts about what led them
    to draw their conclusions. 
    Wilson, 84 Ill. 2d at 194
    . Based on
    Drs. Raba and Gilligan’s expert testimony, a jury could have
    found that the defendants’ inaction more likely than not con-
    tributed to Gomes’s decreased chance of survival and her ul-
    timate death. The Estate is entitled to a new trial in which it
    can present these arguments to a jury.
    B
    Since the Estate is entitled to a new trial against the medi-
    cal defendants, we will also say a few words about its chal-
    lenge to the district court’s decision to bar all reference to the
    theory that the medical defendants violated the Due Process
    Clause by failing to protect Gomes from harming herself. Our
    review is for abuse of discretion. Perry v. City of Chi., 
    733 F.3d 248
    , 252 (7th Cir. 2013).2
    2 Once again, it is worth recalling that a person may recover only once
    for a given set of injuries. At this stage, however, no one has had any oc-
    casion to consider whether state law and federal law overlap so much that
    the elements supporting each theory are the same, or that full relief could
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    The Supreme Court has declared that “competent per-
    sons” have a due-process “right to refuse lifesaving hydration
    and nutrition.” Washington v. Glucksberg, 
    521 U.S. 702
    , 723
    (1997) (quoting Cruzan v. Dir., Mo. Dep’t of Health, 
    497 U.S. 261
    ,
    279 (1990)). But this right does not extend to incarcerated per-
    sons who have been deemed incompetent. Freeman v. Berge,
    
    441 F.3d 543
    , 546 (7th Cir. 2006). For these detainees, jails have
    a duty “to prevent the prisoner from giving way” to the “un-
    usual psychological strain” caused by incarceration. 
    Id. at 547.
        We repeatedly have recognized a jail or prison official’s
    failure to protect an inmate from self-harm as one way of es-
    tablishing deliberate indifference to a serious medical need.
    E.g., Estate of Miller, ex rel. Bertram v. Tobiasz, 
    680 F.3d 984
    , 989–
    90 (7th Cir. 2012); Collins v. Seeman, 
    462 F.3d 757
    , 760–61 (7th
    Cir. 2006). The obligation to intervene covers self-destructive
    behaviors up to and including suicide. 
    Rice, 675 F.3d at 665
    ;
    Cavalieri v. Shepard, 
    321 F.3d 616
    , 620–22 (7th Cir. 2003). The
    duty applies “when suicide takes the form of starving oneself
    to death.” 
    Freeman, 441 F.3d at 547
    ; accord Rodriguez v. Briley,
    
    403 F.3d 952
    , 953 (7th Cir. 2005).
    In barring this theory, the court reasoned that the Estate
    had not presented evidence that Gomes’s suicidal ideation
    and mental illness were “so acute” that the defendants should
    have known about them and protected her from herself. See
    Seventh Circuit Pattern Civil Jury Instruction 7.19 (rev. 2017)
    (an element of a failure-to-protect-from-self-harm claim is
    that the defendant was aware or strongly suspected a strong
    likelihood of serious self-harm). The court attached particular
    be recovered under either. Reconciliation of those theories is something
    better done by the district court on remand.
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    weight to testimony from Gomes’s family members and the
    administrator that she was a devout Catholic who had no his-
    tory of mental illness and would not have committed suicide.
    In the past, we have taken into account jail officials’
    knowledge of a decedent’s mental health history or warnings
    from family members, as that information pertains to the de-
    fendants’ subjective awareness of a problem. E.g., Payne for
    Hicks v. Churchich, 
    161 F.3d 1030
    , 1042 (7th Cir. 1998). But that
    is not the use to which the court put the testimony of Gomes’s
    family. It jumped from the fact that Gomes was a Catholic to
    an assumption that the defendants were aware of her reli-
    gious affiliation, but there is no evidence that they knew any
    such thing. Furthermore, mental illness and suicide regretta-
    bly afflict devout members of all religious groups. While a
    jury could consider testimony from Gomes’s family when as-
    sessing this theory of recovery, it was not the court’s role to
    accept the family opinion as an undisputed fact.
    And in any event, the trial record was filled with evidence
    supporting a finding that the medical defendants knew that
    Gomes was at great risk of death by starvation and dehydra-
    tion, and that she was unable to think rationally. On Decem-
    ber 27, Dr. Singh deemed her not competent and concluded
    that she did not understand the risks of refusing to eat. Before
    then, CCS staff documented Gomes’s suicidal ideation and
    placed her on suicide watch. Dr. Elazegui had warned Gomes
    that if she continued to refuse nutrition, she could die. The
    defendants’ records reveal that they were aware that Gomes
    was at serious risk of causing her own death. The district court
    abused its discretion by prohibiting the Estate from pursuing
    this line of argument. At the next trial, the Estate must be al-
    lowed to argue this theory of recovery to the jury.
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    C
    Finally, we consider whether the district court properly in-
    structed the jury on intent. We evaluate the jury instructions
    anew when deciding if they accurately state the law. Sanchez
    v. City of Chi., 
    880 F.3d 349
    , 355 (7th Cir. 2018).
    The Supreme Court first recognized an incarcerated per-
    son’s right to receive adequate medical treatment in Estelle v.
    Gamble, 
    429 U.S. 97
    (1976), which concerned a convicted pris-
    oner. In that case, the Court concluded that deliberate indif-
    ference to a prisoner’s serious medical need violates the
    Eighth Amendment’s protection against cruel and unusual
    punishment. 
    Id. at 104–05.
    The “deliberate indifference”
    standard requires a showing that the defendant had a “suffi-
    ciently culpable state of mind” and asks whether the official
    actually believed there was a significant risk of harm. Pittman
    ex rel. Hamilton v. Cnty. of Madison, 
    746 F.3d 766
    , 775–76 (7th
    Cir. 2014).
    This subjective standard is closely linked to the language
    of the Eighth Amendment, which prohibits the infliction of
    “cruel and unusual punishments.” The Supreme Court has in-
    terpreted this to ban only the “unnecessary and wanton inflic-
    tion of pain.” Farmer v. Brennan, 
    511 U.S. 825
    , 834 (1994). The
    Court has applied the deliberate-indifference standard not
    just to medical-care problems, but also to other types of
    claims. See 
    Farmer, 511 U.S. at 837
    (failure-to-protect); Wilson
    v. Seiter, 
    501 U.S. 294
    , 303 (1991) (conditions of confinement).
    Pretrial detainees stand in a different position: they have
    not been convicted of anything, and they are still entitled to
    the constitutional presumption of innocence. Thus, the pun-
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    ishment model is inappropriate for them. Kingsley v. Hendrick-
    son, 
    135 S. Ct. 2466
    , 2475 (2015) (“[P]retrial detainees (unlike
    convicted prisoners) cannot be punished at all, much less ‘ma-
    liciously and sadistically.’” (citations omitted)); Bell v. Wolfish,
    
    441 U.S. 520
    , 535 (1979) (“For under the Due Process Clause,
    a detainee may not be punished prior to an adjudication of
    guilt in accordance with due process of law.”). Yet they also
    are protected from certain abusive conditions. The difference
    is that the claims of state detainees being held on probable
    cause arise under the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process
    Clause. Collins v. Al-Shami, 
    851 F.3d 727
    , 731 (7th Cir. 2017).
    That said, we have typically assessed pretrial detainees’
    medical care (and other) claims under the Eighth Amend-
    ment’s standards, reasoning that pretrial detainees are enti-
    tled to at least that much protection. E.g., 
    Minix, 597 F.3d at 831
    ; Board v. Farnham, 
    394 F.3d 469
    , 477–78 (7th Cir. 2005). In
    conducting this borrowing exercise, we have grafted the
    Eighth Amendment’s deliberate indifference requirement
    onto the pretrial detainee situation. 
    Cavalieri, 321 F.3d at 620
    .
    Missing from this picture has been any attention to the differ-
    ence that exists between the Eighth and the Fourteenth
    Amendment standards.
    The Supreme Court recently disapproved the uncritical
    extension of Eighth Amendment jurisprudence to the pretrial
    setting in Kingsley v. Hendrickson, 
    135 S. Ct. 2466
    (2015). There
    the Court held that a pretrial detainee bringing an excessive-
    force claim did not need to prove that the defendant was sub-
    jectively aware that the amount of force being used was unrea-
    sonable. 
    Id. at 2472–73.
    Rather, the plaintiff needed only to
    show that the defendant’s conduct was objectively unreasona-
    ble. 
    Id. Kingsley, it
    is worth emphasizing, was a Fourteenth
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    Amendment Due Process case. Indeed, the Court took pains
    to reiterate the basic principles that apply to pretrial detain-
    ees:
    Several considerations have led us to conclude that the
    appropriate standard for a pretrial detainee’s excessive
    force claim is solely an objective one. For one thing, it
    is consistent with our precedent. We have said
    that “the Due Process Clause protects a pretrial de-
    tainee from the use of excessive force that amounts to
    punishment.” Graham [v. Connor, 
    490 U.S. 386
    ,] 395,
    n. 10 [1989]. And in Bell [v. Wolfish, 
    441 U.S. 520
         (1979)], we explained that such “punishment” can con-
    sist of actions taken with an “expressed intent to pun-
    
    ish.” 441 U.S., at 538
    . But the Bell Court went on to ex-
    plain that, in the absence of an expressed intent to pun-
    ish, a pretrial detainee can nevertheless prevail by showing
    that the actions are not “rationally related to a legitimate
    nonpunitive governmental purpose” or that the actions
    “appear excessive in relation to that purpose.” 
    Id., at 561.
    135 S. Ct. at 2473 (emphasis added).
    Though Kingsley’s direct holding spoke only of excessive-
    force claims, two of our sister circuits have held that its logic
    is not so constrained. The Ninth Circuit first extended Kings-
    ley’s objective inquiry to detainees’ Fourteenth-Amendment
    failure-to-protect claims. Castro v. Cnty. of L.A., 
    833 F.3d 1060
    ,
    1070–71 (9th Cir. 2016) (en banc), cert. denied, 
    137 S. Ct. 831
    (2017). Since then, that court has applied the Kingsley holding
    more broadly to a medical-need claim brought by a pretrial
    detainee. Gordon v. Cnty. of Orange, 
    888 F.3d 1118
    , 1120, 1122–
    25 (9th Cir. 2018). The Second Circuit followed suit, applying
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    the objective standard to detainees’ Fourteenth-Amendment
    complaints about their conditions of confinement; in the pro-
    cess it overruled a decision applying a subjective test to a
    medical-care claim. Darnell v. Pineiro, 
    849 F.3d 17
    , 34–35
    (2d Cir. 2017) (overruling Caiozzo v. Koreman, 
    581 F.3d 63
    (2d Cir. 2009)); see 
    Wilson, 501 U.S. at 303
    (medical care is a
    condition of confinement). Later, the Second Circuit expressly
    applied an objective standard to a claim of deliberate indiffer-
    ence to a serious medical condition. Bruno v. City of Schenec-
    tady, No. 16-1131, 
    2018 WL 1357377
    , at *2–*3 (2d Cir. Mar. 16,
    2018) (unpublished) (asking “whether a ‘reasonable person’
    would appreciate the risk to which the detainee was sub-
    jected”). Other courts of appeals have contemplated the same
    reading of Kingsley. Richmond v. Huq, 
    885 F.3d 928
    , 938 n.3
    (6th Cir. 2018) (not applying Kingsley, which neither party
    raised, but recognizing the “shift in Fourteenth Amendment
    deliberate indifference jurisprudence [that] calls into serious
    doubt whether [the plaintiff] need even show that the individ-
    ual defendant-officials were subjectively aware of her serious
    medical conditions and nonetheless wantonly disregarded
    them”).
    The Eighth, Eleventh, and Fifth Circuits have chosen to
    confine Kingsley to its facts—that is, to Fourteenth-Amend-
    ment claims based on excessive-force allegations in a pretrial
    setting. E.g., Whitney v. City of St. Louis, 
    887 F.3d 857
    , 860 n.4
    (8th Cir. 2018); Dang by & through Dang v. Sheriff, Seminole
    Cnty., 
    871 F.3d 1272
    , 1279 n.2 (11th Cir. 2017); Alderson v. Con-
    cordia Parish Corr. Facility, 
    848 F.3d 415
    , 419 n.4 (5th Cir. 2017)
    (following circuit precedent and concluding that the issue
    was not directly raised). It is worth noting, however, that a
    concurring judge in Alderson advocated reconsideration of the
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    subjective standard to detainees’ other claims in light of
    Kingsley. 
    Id. at 424–25
    (Graves, J., specially concurring in part).
    Some circuits have continued to analyze inadequate med-
    ical treatment claims under the deliberate indifference stand-
    ard without grappling with the potential implications of
    Kingsley. E.g., Duff v. Potter, 665 F. App’x 242, 244–45 (4th Cir.
    2016) (applying the objective reasonableness standard to a de-
    tainee’s excessive-force claim but not his medical-need claim,
    which it affirmed on forfeiture grounds).
    We have not yet expressly weighed in on the debate. Since
    Kingsley, we have continued to duplicate the Eighth Amend-
    ment inquiry for claims of deficient medical treatment. E.g.,
    Phillips v. Sheriff of Cook Cnty., 
    828 F.3d 541
    , 554 n.31 (7th Cir.
    2016). But we have acknowledged that Kingsley has “called
    into question” our case law treating the “protections afforded
    by” the Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments as “‘functionally
    indistinguishable’ in the context of a claim about inadequate
    medical care.” Smego v. Jumper, 707 F. App’x 411, 412 (7th Cir.
    2017); accord 
    Collins, 851 F.3d at 731
    .
    Because the answer may make a difference in the retrial of
    Gomes’s claims, we think it appropriate to address the proper
    standard at this time. We begin with the fact that the Supreme
    Court has been signaling that courts must pay careful atten-
    tion to the different status of pretrial detainees. In this respect,
    Kingsley does not stand alone. See, e.g., Manuel v. City of Joliet,
    
    137 S. Ct. 911
    (2017) (allowing Fourth Amendment challenges
    to pretrial detention even beyond the start of legal process).
    The Court has cautioned that the Eighth Amendment and
    Due Process analyses are not coextensive. See 
    Kingsley, 135 S. Ct. at 2475
    (“The language of the two Clauses differs,
    and the nature of the claims often differs.”); Currie v. Chhabra,
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    728 F.3d 626
    , 630 (7th Cir. 2013) (“[D]ifferent constitutional
    provisions, and thus different standards, govern depending
    on the relationship between the state and the person in the
    state’s custody.”). We see nothing in the logic the Supreme
    Court used in Kingsley that would support this kind of dissec-
    tion of the different types of claims that arise under the Four-
    teenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause. To the contrary, the
    Court said that “[t]he language of the [Eighth and Fourteenth
    Amendments] differs, and the nature of the claims often dif-
    fers. And, most importantly, pretrial detainees (unlike con-
    victed prisoners) cannot be punished at all, much less ‘mali-
    ciously and 
    sadistically.’” 135 S. Ct. at 2475
    (citations omitted).
    We thus conclude, along with the Ninth and Second Circuits,
    that medical-care claims brought by pretrial detainees under
    the Fourteenth Amendment are subject only to the objective
    unreasonableness inquiry identified in Kingsley.
    Although the defendants failed to mention Parratt v. Tay-
    lor, 
    451 U.S. 527
    (1981), overruled in part on other grounds by
    Daniels v. Williams, 
    474 U.S. 327
    , 330–31 (1986), and thus have
    forfeited any argument based on that case, we see nothing in
    Parratt that points in the opposite direction. There the Su-
    preme Court held that plaintiffs may not bring claims under
    the Due Process Clause where state law provides an adequate
    
    remedy. 451 U.S. at 543
    –44. Though the Estate has brought
    state malpractice claims in addition to its due-process claim,
    the availability of parallel and even overlapping forms of re-
    covery does not doom its constitutional claim. See Zinermon
    v. Burch, 
    494 U.S. 113
    , 124 (1990); Armstrong v. Daily, 
    786 F.3d 529
    , 539 (7th Cir. 2015). Parratt applies only to certain proce-
    dural-due-process claims. The violation of which the Estate
    complains derives from the substantive aspect of the Due Pro-
    cess Clause. See Youngberg v. Romeo, 
    457 U.S. 307
    , 315–16
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    (1982); see also City of Revere v. Mass. Gen. Hosp., 
    463 U.S. 239
    ,
    244 (1983); Collignon v. Milwaukee Cnty., 
    163 F.3d 982
    , 988
    (7th Cir. 1998). In this situation, there is no amount of process
    that would justify a decision to sit by and leave serious medi-
    cal needs unattended. Parratt is thus beside the point.
    We also see no conflict between this application of Kingsley
    and the Supreme Court’s later decision in Daniels v. Williams,
    
    474 U.S. 327
    (1986). Daniels overruled part of Parratt and held
    (or underscored) that negligent conduct does not offend the
    Due Process Clause. 
    Id. at 330–31.
    The defendants here worry
    that an objective-reasonableness standard will impermissibly
    constitutionalize medical malpractice claims, because it
    would allow mere negligence to suffice for liability. A careful
    look at Kingsley, however, shows that this is not the case; the
    state-of-mind requirement for constitutional cases remains
    higher.
    Here is what the Court had to say about this problem in
    Kingsley:
    We consider a legally requisite state of mind. In a case
    like this one, there are, in a sense, two separate state-
    of-mind questions. The first concerns the defendant’s
    state of mind with respect to his physical acts—i.e., his
    state of mind with respect to the bringing about of cer-
    tain physical consequences in the world. The second
    question concerns the defendant’s state of mind with
    respect to whether his use of force was “excessive.”
    Here, as to the first question, there is no dispute. As to
    the second, whether to interpret the defendant’s phys-
    ical acts in the world as involving force that was “ex-
    cessive,” there is a dispute. We conclude with respect
    to that question that the relevant standard is objective
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    not subjective. Thus, the defendant’s state of mind is
    not a matter that a plaintiff is required to 
    prove. 135 S. Ct. at 2472
    . As applicable here, the first of those inquir-
    ies asks whether the medical defendants acted purposefully,
    knowingly, or perhaps even recklessly when they considered
    the consequences of their handling of Gomes’s case. See 
    id. at 2472,
    2474 (discussing purposeful or knowing conduct and
    leaving open the possibility that recklessness would also suf-
    fice). The courts of appeals that have applied Kingsley to de-
    tainees’ claims in contexts other than excessive force have
    taken that step, while continuing to recognize that it will not
    be enough to show negligence or gross negligence. 
    Gordon, 888 F.3d at 1125
    (under Kingsley, a detainee must “prove more
    than negligence but less than subjective intent—something
    akin to reckless disregard” (quoting 
    Castro, 833 F.3d at 1071
    ));
    accord 
    Darnell, 849 F.3d at 36
    & n.16. As Kingsley instructs, the
    second step is the objective one.
    The allegations here easily fit the mold of Gordon, Darnell,
    and Castro. A properly instructed jury could find that
    Drs. Elazegui and Singh made the decision to continue ob-
    serving Gomes in the jail, rather than transporting her to the
    hospital, with purposeful, knowing, or reckless disregard of
    the consequences. (The jury could also reject such a conclu-
    sion.) It would be a different matter if, for example, the medi-
    cal defendants had forgotten that Gomes was in the jail, or
    mixed up her chart with that of another detainee, or if
    Dr. Elazegui forgot to take over coverage for Dr. Kim when
    he went on vacation. Such negligence would be insufficient to
    support liability under the Fourteenth Amendment, even
    though it might support state-law liability. Here, there is evi-
    dence that Drs. Elazegui and Singh deliberately chose a “wait
    28                                                  No. 17-1603
    and see” monitoring plan, knowing that Gomes was neither
    eating nor drinking nor competent to care for herself. See Glis-
    
    son, 849 F.3d at 380
    , 382 (recognizing inaction as a choice). Be-
    cause the Estate does not claim merely negligent conduct, a
    jury must decide whether the doctors’ deliberate failure to act
    was objectively reasonable.
    IV
    Any death is a great loss, but one as preventable as
    Gomes’s is especially disturbing. On this record, a jury could
    have found that the intentional and knowing inaction of
    Drs. Elazegui and Singh caused Gomes’s death. We therefore
    REVERSE and REMAND for new trial of the Estate’s claim
    against them, as it relates to Gomes’s death. We AFFIRM the
    district court’s grant of summary judgment to the County de-
    fendants.