Donald Karr, Jr. v. Mark Sevier ( 2022 )


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  •                               In the
    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Seventh Circuit
    ____________________
    No. 21-2463
    DONALD G. KARR, JR.,
    Petitioner-Appellant,
    v.
    MARK R. SEVIER, Warden,
    Respondent-Appellee.
    ____________________
    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
    Southern District of Indiana, Indianapolis Division.
    No. 1:19-cv-01973-JPH-TAB — James P. Hanlon, Judge.
    ____________________
    ARGUED FEBRUARY 9, 2022 — DECIDED MARCH 30, 2022
    ____________________
    Before FLAUM, BRENNAN, and ST. EVE, Circuit Judges.
    BRENNAN, Circuit Judge. An Indiana jury convicted Donald
    Karr of rape and domestic battery for his assaults on A.P., his
    former girlfriend. Karr then fired his attorney, hired a new
    one, and pursued two claims of ineffective assistance of trial
    counsel in state court. Those claims were rejected by the state
    trial court and on direct appeal. Karr then sought federal
    habeas relief under 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    , and the district court
    denied his petition.
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    His trial counsel was ineffective, Karr submits, because he
    failed to investigate A.P.’s history of medication use, and he
    introduced no evidence about whether Karr used his
    cellphone during his second assault of A.P. If the trial attorney
    had procured and introduced this evidence, Karr contends,
    A.P.’s trial testimony could have been impeached. But the
    jury had an ample basis on which to find A.P. credible, and
    there is no reasonable probability that any evidence Karr
    references would have affected the trial’s outcome. Karr thus
    fails to show he was prejudiced by his trial counsel’s
    purported errors.
    Also before us are six additional claims for ineffective
    assistance of trial counsel, which Karr raised for the first time
    in federal habeas proceedings. Ordinarily, federal courts are
    barred from considering defaulted claims when reviewing
    habeas petitions. Because Karr did not raise those claims in
    Indiana state court, he procedurally defaulted them. Karr
    concedes the procedural defaults but asserts they are
    excusable under a narrow equitable exception delineated by
    the Supreme Court. That exception does not apply to
    insubstantial defaulted claims such as the ones Karr presents,
    though, and it does not apply in this procedural posture. We
    therefore affirm the denial of habeas relief.
    I
    A. Factual Background
    We recount the facts primarily as they were found by the
    Indiana Court of Appeals. In § 2254 cases, a state court’s
    determination of a factual issue is “presumed to be correct”
    unless the petitioner rebuts it by “clear and convincing
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    evidence.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (e)(1); Powell v. Fuchs, 
    4 F.4th 541
    ,
    548 (7th Cir. 2021).
    On the night of May 5, 2015, A.P., the victim, was living
    with Donald Karr and her three young children in
    Noblesville, Indiana. A.P. was putting her children to bed
    when Karr returned home and angrily accused her of
    sneaking a man into the house. Karr then hit A.P. in the face
    several times. Next, he grabbed her by her hair and ripped
    some of it out of her head. Karr then told A.P. that she had to
    perform oral sex on him every day and every night.
    After confronting one of A.P.’s children and sending the
    child back to bed, Karr closed the blinds, approached A.P.,
    and unbuckled his pants. A.P. tried to kick Karr away from
    her. At this point, A.P. began experiencing abdominal pains
    and feeling nauseous, which she believed was related to a
    previously diagnosed ovarian cyst. She convinced Karr to
    transport her to the hospital.
    Upon arriving, A.P. told a nurse to contact a police officer
    because Karr had been hitting her. Officer Craig Denison was
    present in the ultrasound room, and A.P. told him that Karr
    had been hitting her and pulling her hair. The officer
    photographed A.P.’s hair, and her face which showed
    swelling. A clump of hair from A.P.’s scalp came loose, and
    she gave it to Denison. After photographing the clump of hair,
    Denison disposed of it in a trash can at the hospital.
    Denison informed A.P. that he believed there was
    insufficient probable cause to arrest Karr. Because she could
    not prevent Karr from occupying the home they shared, A.P.
    left with him. A.P. and Karr drove home together without
    conflict.
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    Once home, Karr again became upset with A.P., this time
    about an unrelated minor topic. He told her they were “going
    to pick up where [they] left off.” He then hit her in the face.
    Karr took off his clothes and ordered A.P. to perform oral sex
    on him. She refused, but he forced her to comply. Karr
    eventually stopped and began to lecture A.P. about his
    “rules” for the house.
    A.P. testified that before going to bed, Karr began to search
    for a pornographic video to watch. Karr again told A.P. to
    perform oral sex on him. At first she refused, but she
    eventually relented “[o]ut of fear of what would happen if
    [she] said no.” During that time A.P. noticed a light shining
    from Karr’s phone and she “assumed he was taking a video.”
    A.P. returned to the hospital the next day, where she met
    with another police officer, Matthew Boudreau. A.P. reported
    Karr’s assaults to Boudreau. A forensic nurse, Nakia Bowens,
    examined A.P. and observed that A.P. had redness and
    tenderness in her scalp area, tenderness on her jawbone, and
    redness on her chin. According to Bowens, A.P. also had
    petechiae—small, red dots that indicate blood has burst—on
    the roof of her mouth. Petechiae may be caused by blunt force
    trauma, Bowens opined, such as by a penis striking the roof
    of a mouth. Bowens took photographs of A.P.’s injuries, and
    some of those photographs were later introduced at trial.
    B. Procedural History
    Criminal charges and trial. The State of Indiana charged
    Karr with domestic battery (Count 1), two counts of rape
    (Counts 2 and 3), strangulation (Count 4), and intimidation
    (Count 5). Attorney Joshua Taylor represented Karr at trial.
    The State presented the evidence of the assaults, discussed
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    above. Taylor cross-examined A.P. on Karr’s behalf. By
    challenging their authentication, Taylor successfully excluded
    text messages that would have damaged Karr’s defense.
    At the close of evidence, Taylor moved for a directed
    verdict on all counts, which he later amended to include only
    Counts 3, 4, and 5—the second rape charge and the
    strangulation and intimidation charges. The trial court
    granted Taylor’s motion in part and entered a directed verdict
    of not guilty on Count 5, the intimidation charge. The
    remaining counts were submitted to the jury. Karr was found
    guilty on the domestic battery and rape counts, but not guilty
    on the strangulation count.
    Posttrial proceedings. Prior to sentencing, Karr discharged
    Taylor and hired Jane Ruemmele as his attorney. The defense
    moved for a new trial, alleging Taylor provided Karr
    ineffective assistance. The trial court held two evidentiary
    hearings on the motion, at which Ruemmele raised several
    issues and Taylor testified about various decisions he had
    made before and during trial.
    One issue concerned A.P.’s medication history. When
    questioned A.P. admitted she had been prescribed
    hydrocodone at the time of the assaults, but she did not recall
    whether she was taking it at that time. She testified that any
    drug consumption during that period did not affect her
    ability to recall the assaults. Another issue that arose
    concerned a forensic audit of Karr’s cellphone. Ruemmele
    called Officer Matt McGovern, of the Noblesville Police
    Department, who had conducted a forensic analysis of Karr’s
    phone. McGovern testified he found no evidence of a
    pornographic video that was accessed or recorded on Karr’s
    cellphone on either May 5, 2015, or early the following
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    morning when the second assault occurred. Per McGovern,
    though, he could not exclude the possibility that content
    which had been deleted from the phone did not appear in his
    report.
    Arguing for a new trial, Ruemmele asserted that if A.P.’s
    “prescription drug medication … had been explored she
    could have been adequately impeached on her ability to
    observe and to report the events of the day.” Ruemmele also
    contended the lack of evidence of a pornographic video on
    Karr’s cellphone called into question A.P.’s credibility and the
    reliability of her testimony. The court was not persuaded and
    denied the motion for a new trial. According to the trial judge,
    Taylor had been “very successful” in excluding the
    inculpatory text messages that Karr sent to A.P. Karr was
    sentenced to 17.5 years in prison, with five years of the
    sentence suspended.
    Karr’s direct appeal and postconviction proceedings. On Karr’s
    behalf, Ruemmele pursued a direct appeal of the trial court’s
    denial of her motion for a new trial. But then she received
    permission to stay the appeal and pursue postconviction
    relief in the trial court under Indiana’s Davis-Hatton
    procedure (explained later in greater detail). In the petition
    for postconviction relief, Ruemmele alleged that Taylor had
    been ineffective as Karr’s trial counsel for two main reasons.
    First, Taylor failed to impeach A.P. with evidence of her drug
    use. Second, Taylor failed to note the absence of pornographic
    or other evidence from Karr’s cellphone. The State moved for
    summary denial of the petition, which the trial court granted.
    The trial court reasoned that claim preclusion barred the
    claims presented in the petition because they had been raised
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    and denied on the merits in connection with the earlier
    motion for a new trial.
    In a consolidated appeal, Ruemmele challenged Karr’s
    convictions, his sentence, and the denial of postconviction
    relief. The Indiana Court of Appeals affirmed the trial court in
    every respect. According to the appeals court, Karr was not
    prejudiced by Taylor’s decision not to investigate and
    potentially present evidence of A.P.’s medication use. The
    appeals court also concluded that Karr did not suffer
    prejudice from Taylor’s decision not to present the cellphone
    evidence to the jury. The Indiana Supreme Court denied
    Karr’s petition to transfer. His petition to the Supreme Court
    of the United States for a writ of certiorari likewise was
    denied.
    Federal habeas proceedings. Karr filed a habeas petition
    under 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d) in the United States District Court
    for the Southern District of Indiana, which he later amended
    with the assistance of retained counsel. In the petition Karr
    again referenced the ineffectiveness claims related to A.P.’s
    medications and the forensic audit of his phone. Karr also
    raised several new bases for the alleged ineffectiveness of his
    trial counsel. The State opposed relief and argued Karr’s
    claims were meritless or procedurally defaulted.
    The district court denied habeas relief. Because each of the
    six defaulted claims for ineffective assistance of trial counsel
    was vague or otherwise facially deficient, the district court
    ruled that those claims lacked “some merit.” Thus, the
    procedural defaults were not excused under Martinez v. Ryan,
    
    566 U.S. 1
     (2012), or Trevino v. Thaler, 
    569 U.S. 413
     (2013),
    which in limited circumstances provide that a procedural
    default will not bar a federal habeas court from hearing a
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    substantial claim of ineffective assistance of trial counsel if a
    prisoner is denied a meaningful opportunity to raise the
    claim. On the two non-defaulted claims for ineffective
    assistance of trial counsel, the district court concluded that the
    Indiana Court of Appeals’ no-prejudice determination was a
    reasonable application of federal law.
    The district court granted a certificate of appealability on
    the question of whether the Indiana Court of Appeals
    unreasonably applied established federal law in concluding
    that Karr was not prejudiced by Taylor’s failure to present
    evidence of A.P.’s medication history. Karr appealed, and he
    filed what was labeled a motion for issuance of a certificate of
    appealability. Our court construed the motion as a request to
    expand the certificate of appealability to include the
    previously adjudicated cellphone claim, and the six defaulted
    claims for ineffective assistance of trial counsel. We granted
    Karr’s request and expanded the certificate of appealability.
    II
    First, we consider the two claims for ineffective assistance
    of trial counsel that Karr presented to the state court. We also
    briefly discuss Taylor’s overall performance on Karr’s claim
    for ineffective assistance of trial counsel. Then, we examine
    whether a lack of substantiality precludes Karr’s defaulted
    claims from proceeding under the Martinez-Trevino exception
    to the rule prohibiting procedurally defaulted claims from
    being raised in federal habeas proceedings. We close by
    examining whether the Martinez-Trevino exception could
    apply in a case in this procedural posture.
    The district court’s legal conclusions are reviewed de novo
    and its factual determinations are examined for clear error.
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    Kimbrough v. Neal, 
    941 F.3d 879
    , 881 (7th Cir. 2019) (citing
    Morris v. Bartow, 
    832 F.3d 705
    , 709 (7th Cir. 2016)). Federal
    courts may not grant habeas relief on any claim that was
    “adjudicated on the merits in State court proceedings” unless
    such adjudication “resulted in a decision that was contrary to,
    or involved an unreasonable application of, clearly
    established Federal law, as determined by the Supreme Court
    of the United States.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1). This standard is
    highly deferential, and we may not grant relief where
    “fairminded jurists could disagree on the correctness of the
    state court’s decision.” Minnick v. Winkleski, 
    15 F.4th 460
    , 468
    (7th Cir. 2021), cert. denied, No. 21-1042 (U.S. Mar. 21, 2022).
    Federal habeas review of a claim for ineffective assistance
    of counsel is “doubly deferential.” 
    Id.
     This is so because we
    must give “both the state court and the defense attorney the
    benefit of the doubt.” Burt v. Titlow, 
    571 U.S. 12
    , 15 (2013). In
    reviewing ineffective-assistance claims, we apply a strong
    presumption that counsel “rendered adequate assistance and
    made all significant decisions in the exercise of reasonable
    professional judgment.” Minnick, 15 F.4th at 468 (quoting
    Strickland v. Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 690 (1984)).
    Although an isolated error can support a claim for
    ineffective assistance of counsel if the error is sufficiently
    egregious and prejudicial, “it is difficult to establish
    ineffective assistance when counsel’s overall performance
    indicates active and capable advocacy.” Makiel v. Butler, 
    782 F.3d 882
    , 902 (7th Cir. 2015) (quoting Harrington v. Richter, 
    562 U.S. 86
    , 111 (2011)). The performance of counsel (1) violates
    constitutional standards only “when it falls below an
    objective standard of reasonableness,” and it (2) prejudices a
    petitioner only if “there is a reasonable probability that, but
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    for counsel’s unprofessional errors, the result of the
    proceeding would have been different.” Adeyanju v. Wiersma,
    
    12 F.4th 669
    , 673 (7th Cir. 2021) (quoting Strickland, 
    466 U.S. at
    687–88, 694). “A petitioner is entitled to habeas relief only if
    he satisfies both of Strickland’s prongs.” 
    Id.
    A. Medical Records Claim
    First up is Karr’s claim that Taylor was ineffective for
    failing to investigate and potentially present evidence of
    A.P.’s medication history. Karr argues, as he did before the
    district court, that Taylor should have researched A.P.’s
    potential use of medications when the assaults took place.
    Karr asserts that, had Taylor done so, he could have presented
    the jury with evidence casting significant doubt on A.P.’s
    memory on the night of the assaults. This argument has two
    parts. Karr contends the jury should have heard that (1) A.P.
    was prescribed hydrocodone at the time of the assaults; and
    (2) A.P. told Karr that at the hospital she had been given an
    intravenous line with medication.
    At the postconviction evidentiary hearing, A.P. testified
    she did not recall whether she had been taking hydrocodone
    at the time of the assaults as well as that any drug
    consumption did not affect her ability to recall the assaults.
    A.P. explained she might have told Karr that she had taken
    medication intravenously to account for the additional time
    she spent at the hospital. This would conceal from Karr that,
    at that time, she was speaking with a police officer about
    Karr’s abuse. Considering how the trial proceeded—and
    given A.P.’s testimony—the Indiana Court of Appeals
    determined that Taylor had made a reasonable strategic
    decision not to attempt to obtain A.P.’s medical records. The
    Court of Appeals observed that it was not clear whether any
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    such records would have been discoverable or admissible at
    trial. Thus, the court held that Taylor’s failure to pursue the
    investigation of A.P.’s medical records did not prejudice Karr.
    In this procedural posture, we must decide whether that
    holding was contrary to, or an unreasonable application of,
    Strickland. See 
    28 U.S.C. § 2254
    (d)(1); Minnick, 15 F.4th at 468.
    The ruling of the Indiana Court of Appeals rested on the
    evidentiary decisions at trial and the potential defenses
    available to Taylor as Karr’s attorney. Most prominently, the
    appeals court agreed with the State that the evidence showed
    A.P.’s thoughts and speech were clear on the night of the
    assaults and during her later conversations with police
    officers. Obtaining, and even introducing, A.P.’s medical
    records therefore would not have plausibly enabled Taylor to
    cast doubt on A.P.’s memory on the night of the assaults. To
    show that the state court unreasonably applied Strickland in
    making its no-prejudice determination, Karr would have to
    demonstrate why the state appeals court’s logic was flawed.
    But he has not done so.
    In these federal habeas proceedings, Karr has not
    challenged the state appeals court’s determination that A.P.’s
    thought and speech were clear when she reported the
    assaults, which was shortly after they occurred. So, there is no
    factual foundation for Karr’s assertion that the evidence he
    claims should have been investigated and introduced at trial
    would have affected the jurors’ assessment of A.P.’s
    credibility. This is particularly true because, per A.P.’s
    testimony and the absence of any contradictory evidence,
    there is reason to doubt that she was taking medication at the
    time of the assaults. It follows that there is no “reasonable
    probability that, but for counsel’s [alleged] unprofessional
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    errors [regarding A.P.’s medications], the result of the
    proceeding would have been different.” Adeyanju, 12 F.4th at
    673. We agree with the district court that the Indiana Court of
    Appeals’ no-prejudice determination with respect to A.P.’s
    medication records was a reasonable application of Strickland.
    The state appeals court also described Taylor’s decision
    not to pursue the discovery of A.P.’s medical records as a
    strategic decision. “[W]hen counsel’s pretrial investigation is
    less than complete, counsel’s strategic choices are ‘reasonable
    precisely to the extent that reasonable professional judgments
    support the limitations on investigation.’” Olvera v. Gomez, 
    2 F.4th 659
    , 669 (7th Cir. 2021) (quoting Strickland, 
    466 U.S. at 691
    ). Here, Ruemmele introduced evidence at one of the
    posttrial evidentiary hearings that Taylor was aware a
    detective had met with A.P. a few days after the assaults
    occurred. During that meeting, the detective averred, “the
    vast majority of the time [A.P.] was collected and matter-of-
    fact.”
    This testimony supports the state appeals court’s
    conclusion that Taylor’s decision not to investigate A.P.’s
    medication records was a reasonable exercise of his
    professional judgment. Given that Taylor knew A.P. could
    speak in a calm and detailed manner about what happened to
    her on the night of the assaults, he reasonably could have
    concluded that any records of her medications would not
    have affected the jury’s evaluation of her credibility. Notably,
    Ruemmele did not elicit any testimony contradicting this
    rationale during her examination of Taylor at the evidentiary
    hearing.
    Moreover, as the State notes, any attempt Taylor could
    have made to impeach A.P. with evidence of her medication
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    history would have been contrary to the theory of defense he
    presented to the jury—that A.P. had purposely fabricated the
    story of the assault for financial gain. Again, there was no
    evidence presented at the postconviction hearings to refute
    this rationale for Taylor’s decision not to pursue the
    medication records. Without more, Karr has not shown that
    the Indiana Court of Appeals unreasonably applied Strickland
    in concluding that he suffered no prejudice from Taylor’s
    strategic decisions regarding A.P.’s medication records.
    B. Cellphone Claim
    Next, we consider Karr’s claim that Taylor provided
    ineffective assistance because he did not present the jury with
    evidence relating to McGovern’s forensic audit of Karr’s
    cellphone. According to Karr, this amounted to ineffective
    assistance because the audit did not reveal that Karr accessed
    a pornographic video or made a video recording during the
    second assault. The Indiana Court of Appeals ruled that Karr
    suffered no prejudice under Strickland from Taylor’s decision
    in this respect. The state appeals court reasoned that even if
    this evidence had been presented, it would not necessarily
    have undermined A.P.’s account of the assaults. That court
    also concluded there was sufficient evidence adduced at trial
    for the jury to draw credibility determinations about A.P.’s
    testimony.
    We agree with the district court that the Indiana Court of
    Appeals reasonably applied Strickland in reaching a no-
    prejudice determination on this issue as well. Even if the
    forensic analysis of Karr’s cellphone had been presented to
    the jury, it is extremely unlikely that evidence would have
    changed the trial’s outcome. Recall that McGovern could not
    exclude the possibility that one or more videos had been
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    deleted from Karr’s cellphone and did not appear on the
    officer’s forensic-analysis report. Had Taylor introduced the
    cellphone evidence at trial, then on cross-examination the
    State could have elicited the limits of that evidence. Karr has
    therefore not shown it is likely that the introduction of the
    cellphone evidence would have impeached A.P.’s testimony
    about Karr’s cellphone use.
    Further, as the district court noted, presumably the State
    would have also argued that A.P. was, at most, mistaken to
    assume Karr was viewing pornography or taking a video
    during the second assault. At no point has Karr explained
    why the jury would not have accepted such an explanation.
    Considering the cellphone evidence in the context of the
    entire trial, Thompson v. Vanihel, 
    998 F.3d 762
    , 767–68 (7th Cir.
    2021), there is no reasonable probability that, but for Taylor’s
    alleged unprofessional errors, the result of the trial would
    have been different.
    Karr’s arguments about the impact of the forensic audit of
    his cellphone on A.P.’s credibility are likewise unconvincing.
    The jury heard from several witnesses, including A.P., officers
    Denison and Boudreau, and nurse Bowens. The jury “had
    ample evidence on which to base a determination of [A.P.’s]
    credibility.” Hodkiewicz v. Buesgen, 
    998 F.3d 321
    , 328 (7th Cir.
    2021). It was therefore “reasonable for the court of appeals to
    conclude … there is not a reasonable likelihood” that this one
    piece of evidence “would have so changed the jury’s
    credibility determination that they would have acquitted
    [Karr.]” 
    Id.
     (citations omitted).
    Essentially, Karr contends “in a credibility contest, counsel
    must employ scorched-earth tactics in attacking the
    credibility of the primary witness.” Gilbreath v. Winkleski, 21
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    15 F.4th 965
    , 991 (7th Cir. 2021). But Karr ignores that there are
    “significant downsides” to attacking a sympathetic accuser or
    “even being perceived as attacking her.” 
    Id.
     The Indiana Court
    of Appeals recognized those downsides when, in making its
    no-prejudice determination, it noted that the forensic analysis
    of Karr’s cellphone “would not necessarily undermine
    [A.P.’s] account of the incidents.”
    In fact, an attempt to impeach A.P. with the forensic
    analysis of Karr’s cellphone could have hurt rather than
    helped Karr’s defense. See 
    id.
     at 990–91. The jury might have
    perceived a potential attempt to cast A.P. as unreliable—by
    focusing on an extraneous part of her account—as reinforcing
    the strength of the State’s case on the core details of the
    assaults. Thus, the Indiana Court of Appeals reasonably
    applied Strickland in ruling that Karr was not prejudiced by
    Taylor’s failure to present evidence from the forensic analysis
    of the cellphone.
    C. Taylor’s Overall Performance
    Because we conclude that Karr’s prejudice arguments fall
    short, we need not reach the question of whether Taylor’s
    overall performance was deficient. Indeed, this court’s
    precedents discourage us from undertaking a wholesale
    analysis of attorney performance in such circumstances. See
    Adeyanju, 12 F.4th at 676; Thill v. Richardson, 
    996 F.3d 469
    , 476–
    77 (7th Cir. 2021). Yet, without deciding the question, the State
    may be correct that Taylor’s overall performance was at least
    adequate. According to the trial court, Taylor’s “skillful
    objections” kept evidence damaging to Karr’s defense from
    being presented to the jury. Taylor also argued for and
    procured a directed verdict of not guilty on Count 5, the
    charge of intimidation. And the jury acquitted Karr on Count
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    4, the charge of strangulation. This all supports the conclusion
    that Taylor’s performance did not fall below an objective
    standard of reasonableness. Strickland, 
    466 U.S. at 688
    .
    III
    We turn now to the six additional claims that were
    procedurally defaulted when they were not raised in Indiana
    state court. The Supreme Court has established the general
    rule that federal habeas petitioners may not use ineffective
    assistance of postconviction counsel as a rationale for
    excusing their procedural defaults of claims that trial counsel
    was ineffective under Strickland. See Coleman v. Thompson, 
    501 U.S. 722
    , 752–54 (1991).
    Karr asserts the equitable exception delineated by the
    Supreme Court in Martinez and Trevino excuses these
    procedural defaults. In Martinez, the Supreme Court
    fashioned a “narrow exception” to the rule in Coleman:
    “Inadequate assistance of counsel at initial-review collateral
    proceedings may establish cause for a prisoner’s procedural
    default of a claim of ineffective assistance at trial.” 
    566 U.S. at 9
    . That exception applies to excuse procedural defaults in
    federal habeas proceedings if state procedural law required a
    petitioner’s claims to be raised in an initial-review collateral
    proceeding, but the petitioner failed to do so. See 
    id.
     at 11–12.
    The Court in Martinez further wrote that “[t]o overcome the
    default, a prisoner must also demonstrate that the underlying
    ineffective-assistance-of-trial-counsel claim is a substantial
    one, which is to say that the prisoner must demonstrate that
    the claim has some merit.” 
    Id. at 14
    .
    The next year in Trevino the Court extended the Martinez
    exception to include cases where a state’s procedural rules
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    meant that a prisoner was technically permitted to raise
    claims for ineffective assistance of trial counsel on direct
    appeal, yet the structure and design of the state procedural
    system made it “virtually impossible” to do so. 569 U.S. at 417.
    This court has added our take on this exception. In Brown v.
    Brown, we held that Indiana’s procedural system makes it
    sufficiently difficult for claims of ineffective assistance of trial
    counsel to be brought on direct appeal such that “[t]he
    Martinez-Trevino form of cause to excuse procedural default is
    available to Indiana defendants who seek federal habeas
    relief.” 
    847 F.3d 502
    , 512–13 (7th Cir. 2017).
    Under Indiana’s Davis-Hatton procedure, 1 a prisoner may
    “suspend his direct appeal to pursue an immediate petition
    for postconviction relief for the purpose of developing a
    factual record to support the claim. The direct appeal and
    collateral-review appeal are then consolidated.” Crutchfield v.
    Dennison, 
    910 F.3d 968
    , 975 (7th Cir. 2018). This procedure is
    limited and rarely used, however, and “the Indiana appellate
    courts have expressed a strong preference for reserving
    Strickland claims for collateral review.” 
    Id.
     Because the Davis-
    Hatton procedure, along with other aspects of the structure,
    design, and operation of Indiana’s procedural system, does
    not offer most defendants a meaningful opportunity to
    present a claim for ineffective assistance of trial counsel on
    direct appeal, Indiana defendants who seek federal habeas
    relief may use the Martinez-Trevino exception. See 
    id. at 976
    ;
    Brown, 847 F.3d at 512–13.
    1
    Davis v. State, 
    368 N.E.2d 1149
     (Ind. 1977); Hatton v. State, 
    626 N.E.2d 442
    (Ind. 1993).
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    The State counters that the Martinez-Trevino exception
    does not apply here for three reasons: (1) Ruemmele caused
    the procedural defaults, at least in part when she served as
    direct-appeal counsel (rather than solely as postconviction
    counsel); (2) Karr retained Ruemmele (instead of the State
    appointing her); and (3) the defaulted claims are without
    merit. We focus primarily on the third rationale—the lack of
    a substantial claim with “some merit.” Martinez, 
    566 U.S. at 14
    . While “full consideration of the merits is not required,”
    our inquiry into whether a petitioner’s claims are substantial
    under Martinez and Trevino is deeper than our court’s
    examination on whether to grant a certificate of appealability.
    Brown, 847 F.3d at 515. Beyond that clarification, Brown does
    not address the contours of the applicable standard for
    determining what qualifies as a substantial claim under
    Martinez and Trevino.
    Here, regardless of the precise standard for a substantial
    claim, Karr cannot meet it. Now, we conclude that Karr’s
    defaulted claims did not even warrant the issuance of a
    certificate of appealability, as they are insufficiently
    developed to show that “jurists of reason could disagree with
    the district court’s resolution … or that jurists could conclude
    the issues presented are adequate to deserve encouragement
    to proceed further.” Id. (quoting Miller-El v. Cockrell, 
    537 U.S. 322
    , 327 (2003)). Each of the six defaulted claims is vague,
    conclusory, or both. There is, therefore, no basis on which to
    debate the district court’s decision. See 
    id.
     Next, we briefly
    review each of Karr’s defaulted claims.
    Claim One (Improper Jury Instruction). Karr asserts Taylor
    was ineffective for failing to object to a jury instruction, which
    did not state that witness credibility may be impeached by
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    prior inconsistent statements. As the district court observed,
    “Karr does not identify which jury instruction he is talking
    about, nor does he elaborate on why the failure to object
    amounts to ineffective assistance.” Karr does not address this
    deficiency on appeal.
    Claim Two (Impeachment of Bowens). Karr alleges Taylor was
    ineffective for failing to impeach Bowens, the forensic nurse
    who examined A.P. Karr fails to specify how he believes
    Taylor should have impeached Bowens. And we cannot
    readily determine from the record what material Taylor
    allegedly should have used for impeachment or how this
    purported impeachment would have impacted Karr’s overall
    defense.
    Claim Three (DNA Testing). According to Karr, Taylor
    should have ordered DNA testing of hair specimens from
    A.P. But the hair sample obtained from A.P. at the hospital
    was discarded, and Karr does not contend that hair specimens
    originating with someone other than A.P. were introduced at
    trial, so it is difficult to discern what would have been
    accomplished if Taylor had A.P.’s hair tested. On appeal, Karr
    does not explain the import of any DNA testing that was not
    conducted.
    Denison’s disposal of the hair sample also underlies Karr’s
    claim under Brady v. Maryland, 
    373 U.S. 83
     (1963). That claim
    lacks merit as well, though. There can be no viable Brady claim
    where, as here, the defendant and his attorney knew at the
    time of trial that the evidence had been discarded. To succeed
    on a claim that evidence was unlawfully destroyed under the
    Supreme Court’s decision in Arizona v. Youngblood, Karr
    would have to “show bad faith on the part of the police” in
    failing to preserve the evidence in question. 
    488 U.S. 51
    , 58
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    (1988). He also must demonstrate that “the exculpatory value
    of the evidence was apparent before it was destroyed.”
    McCarthy v. Pollard, 
    656 F.3d 478
    , 485 (7th Cir. 2011). Karr can
    make neither showing—nor does he attempt to do so—
    because there is no reason to believe Denison acted in bad
    faith by discarding the hair sample or that any exculpatory
    value of the hair sample was apparent at the time it was
    discarded. Even accounting for Karr’s incorrect framing of the
    issue, there is no Youngblood claim here that meets the
    threshold requirement of substantiality under Martinez. See
    Brown, 847 F.3d at 515.
    Claim Four (Double Jeopardy). Karr contends Taylor was
    ineffective for not objecting to a violation of the double-
    jeopardy protections under the Indiana Constitution. His
    brief does not explain this alleged violation, and no violation
    is apparent from our review of the trial proceedings.
    Claim Five (Vague Jury Charge). Karr also alleges Taylor
    failed to object to an unconstitutionally vague jury charge. As
    the district court noted, Karr did not identify the jury charge
    or explain why it is vague. Nor does he address the issue in
    his appellate briefs.
    Claim Six (Hearsay in Jury Charge). Karr argues last that
    Taylor should have objected to improper hearsay included in
    a jury charge concerning witness testimony. Before the
    district court, Karr asserted the witness testimony was that of
    Amy Summerfield, but there was no record that anybody by
    that name testified at Karr’s trial. On appeal, Karr does not
    identify the witness testimony or alleged hearsay at issue.
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    *     *      *
    In sum, not one of these six claims is substantial under
    Martinez. Karr has not offered a plausible argument that any
    defaulted claim is substantial or has “some merit.” Martinez,
    
    566 U.S. at 14
    . So, the Martinez-Trevino exception does not
    excuse the procedural defaults.
    IV
    Given this case’s procedural posture, a question arises as
    to whether defaulted claims, if substantial, would succeed
    here.
    First, we agree with the State that Ruemmele’s
    representation of Karr on both initial postconviction review
    and on direct appeal removes this case from the terrain
    occupied by the Martinez-Trevino exception. On Karr’s behalf
    Ruemmele presented four claims to the Indiana Court of
    Appeals: two challenges to Karr’s conviction and sentence,
    and two arguments regarding ineffective assistance of trial
    counsel. Ruemmele was acting—primarily, if not
    exclusively—in her capacity as Karr’s direct-appeal counsel
    when she procedurally defaulted the six claims for ineffective
    assistance of trial counsel. Thus, the Indiana Court of Appeals
    did not hear those six claims because Ruemmele failed to raise
    them. Her role as Karr’s counsel on direct appeal
    distinguishes this case from Martinez, where the Supreme
    Court found it crucial that the error committed by the
    prisoner’s attorney occurred in initial-review collateral
    proceedings, precluding the Court from considering or
    adjudicating the prisoner’s ineffective-assistance-of-trial-
    counsel claim on direct review of the state proceeding. See 
    566 U.S. at
    10–11.
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    Here, as the State argues, Karr could have raised a claim
    before the Indiana Supreme Court that his direct-appeal
    counsel had been ineffective in procedurally defaulting the six
    claims for ineffective assistance of trial counsel. But he did not
    do so, perhaps because Ruemmele was still representing him
    on further appeal. “[A]n ineffective-assistance-of-counsel
    claim asserted as cause for the procedural default of another
    claim can itself be procedurally defaulted.” Edwards v.
    Carpenter, 
    529 U.S. 446
    , 453 (2000); see also Smith v. Gaetz, 
    565 F.3d 346
    , 352 (7th Cir. 2009) (ineffective assistance of appellate
    counsel must be raised at each level of state-court review or
    else it is procedurally defaulted). By failing to raise ineffective
    assistance of appellate counsel before the Indiana Supreme
    Court, Karr procedurally defaulted that claim, which if
    successful could have excused the procedural defaults of his
    six claims for ineffective assistance of trial counsel.
    A related inquiry is whether, notwithstanding
    Ruemmele’s dual role as counsel on initial review and direct
    appeal, Karr’s retention of her also prevents the procedural
    defaults from being excused.
    The State asserts it is not responsible for a procedural
    default that results from the allegedly deficient performance
    of a retained, rather than appointed, postconviction counsel.
    Martinez specified two scenarios in which a prisoner may
    establish cause to excuse the default of an ineffective-
    assistance-of-trial-counsel claim: “The first is where the state
    courts did not appoint counsel in the initial-review collateral
    proceeding for a claim of ineffective assistance at trial. The
    second is where appointed counsel in the initial-review
    collateral proceeding, where the claim should have been
    raised, was ineffective under [Strickland].” 
    566 U.S. at 14
    . The
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    State presents the question whether a third scenario—where
    the prisoner retains counsel—falls within the scope of
    Martinez. Karr disagrees with the State’s analysis, arguing
    that how counsel undertook his representation does not
    impact whether there is cause to excuse the defaults.
    The parties touch upon this question in their submissions,
    but they do not fully and adequately present the arguments
    for our consideration, Liu v. SEC, 
    140 S. Ct. 1936
    , 1947 (2020),
    especially on a question with a likelihood of recurrence and
    significant consequences. See Smith v. Pro. Transp., Inc., 
    5 F.4th 700
    , 703–04 (7th Cir. 2021). Accordingly, we choose not to
    reach it here.
    *      *       *
    For these reasons, we AFFIRM the judgment of the district
    court.