United States v. Quentin Perry ( 2018 )


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  •                    United States Court of Appeals
    For the Eighth Circuit
    ___________________________
    No. 17-3236
    ___________________________
    United States of America
    lllllllllllllllllllllPlaintiff - Appellee
    v.
    Quentin Lamont Lavell Perry
    lllllllllllllllllllllDefendant - Appellant
    ____________
    Appeal from United States District Court
    for the District of Minnesota - St. Paul
    ____________
    Submitted: June 12, 2018
    Filed: November 15, 2018
    ____________
    Before BENTON, KELLY, and STRAS, Circuit Judges.
    ____________
    BENTON, Circuit Judge.
    Quentin Lamont Lavell Perry appeals his conviction and 15-year sentence for
    possessing a gun and ammunition as a felon. See 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). He argues
    that the police did not have probable cause to arrest him, that constraints on his ability
    to represent himself at trial violated his constitutional rights, and that he does not
    qualify for a heightened sentence under the Armed Career Criminal Act. With
    jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1291, this court affirms the judgment of the district
    court.1
    I.
    A 911 caller reported “shots fired” outside a bar. The caller described the
    shooter as a “taller” black man with a goatee, wearing a white shirt and dark pants.
    A few blocks from the bar, police officers saw Perry and another man crossing the
    street. Perry—the taller of the two—appeared to have a goatee and to be wearing a
    white shirt and dark pants. After briefly making eye contact with the police, the two
    men split up.
    Perry walked between some buildings to a parking lot. The police circled
    around the block. They found him standing next to a car, on the passenger side.
    They could then see that although the back and sleeves of his shirt were white, the
    front was dark blue or black. They could also see he had a full beard that was longer
    around his chin, not a goatee. One officer went to talk to Perry. The other began
    checking the area for evidence. Through the windshield of the car Perry was standing
    next to, he saw a handgun and two magazines under the passenger seat. The officers
    handcuffed and arrested Perry. He was charged with possessing the handgun from
    the car and three bullets the police found in his pockets.
    Perry argues the district court should have suppressed the bullets because the
    police did not have probable cause to arrest him, making the search of his pockets
    illegal. See Minnesota v. Dickerson, 
    508 U.S. 366
    , 372–73 (1993). This court
    reviews legal conclusions de novo, and factual findings for clear error. See, e.g.,
    United States v. Gunnell, 
    775 F.3d 1079
    , 1082–83 (8th Cir. 2015). “[P]robable cause
    1
    The Honorable Paul A. Magnuson, United States District Judge for the District
    of Minnesota.
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    exist[s] at the time of [an] arrest when the available facts and circumstances are
    sufficient to warrant a person of reasonable caution to believe that an offense was
    being or had been committed by the person to be arrested.” United States v. Adams,
    
    346 F.3d 1165
    , 1169 (8th Cir. 2003). Probable cause “requires only a probability or
    substantial chance of criminal activity, not an actual showing of such activity”; it “is
    not a high bar.” District of Columbia v. Wesby, 
    138 S. Ct. 577
    , 586 (2018) (citations
    omitted).
    Perry insists the police did not have probable cause because his appearance was
    “not that similar” to the 911 caller’s description. The district court, adopting the
    magistrate judge’s report and recommendation, did not clearly err in finding: “While
    there are some inconsistencies, [Perry] matched the material aspects of the shooter’s
    description.” Perry emphasizes his actual height is over six feet, while the 911
    caller’s estimate was “5N8O to 5N9O.” But the caller gave that specific measurement
    only in a follow-up interview after Perry had been arrested. At the time of the arrest,
    which controls the probable-cause inquiry, see 
    Adams, 346 F.3d at 1169
    , the only
    description to the police was that the shooter was “taller.” That term aptly describes
    Perry. He is a taller black man, had a beard that was noticeably longer at his chin
    than on his cheeks, wore a shirt that looked white from the back, and had dark pants.
    Further, the police found him standing next to a car where a handgun and magazines
    were plainly visible, just a few blocks from where someone had reported “shots fired”
    minutes earlier. In the circumstances, a reasonable officer could have concluded that
    Perry was the shooter from the bar. See United States v. Oakley, 
    153 F.3d 696
    ,
    697–98 (8th Cir. 1998); see also 
    Wesby, 138 S. Ct. at 588
    (explaining that it is a
    mistake to assess probable cause “view[ing] each fact in isolation, rather than as a
    factor in the totality of the circumstances” (internal quotation marks and citation
    omitted)).
    Perry tries to draw the opposite conclusion from the fact that the police
    encountered him only blocks from the bar “some eight-to-ten minutes after the shots
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    were fired.” In Perry’s view, a guilty person would be long gone by then, or at least
    would have fled, hid, or otherwise acted suspiciously when seeing the police.
    Because he remained calm and polite, even when the officers approached, Perry
    thinks they were compelled to conclude he was just an innocent passerby, not the
    shooter. “But probable cause does not require officers to rule out a suspect’s innocent
    explanation for suspicious facts.” 
    Wesby, 138 S. Ct. at 588
    . Perry’s possible
    innocent explanation did not require the officers to disregard other, less innocent
    possibilities or to ignore the other circumstances indicating guilt. 
    Id. at 588–89.
    II.
    At trial, Perry represented himself with standby counsel. He was in custody
    before and during trial. After getting in a dispute with a sergeant at the jail, he was
    placed in segregation. This interfered with his ability to access a computer and legal
    materials and, in Perry’s view, violated his constitutional right to mount a defense.
    Perry did not raise this issue to the district court and does so only conclusorily
    on appeal, with no meaningful explanation or argument. He has likely forfeited any
    entitlement to relief. See, e.g., United States v. Zavala, 
    427 F.3d 562
    , 564 n.1 (8th
    Cir. 2005). In any event, he makes no showing that his inability to access the law
    library “hindered his efforts to pursue a legal claim” at trial, so his claim also fails on
    the merits. Lewis v. Casey, 
    518 U.S. 343
    , 351 (1996); see also United States v. Knox,
    
    950 F.2d 516
    , 519–20 (8th Cir. 1991) (explaining that pro se defendants have a right
    to either law-library access or adequate assistance from someone trained in the law,
    such as standby counsel).
    Perry also claims his rights were violated during the trial itself. He focuses on
    one instance where the district court sustained a relevancy objection to his
    questioning of the government’s DNA expert about forensic concepts and
    terminology. Perry asserts, again without meaningful explanation or argument, that
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    his cross-examination “was hindered by the court during trial, despite the seemingly
    relevant nature of his inquiries.”
    Perry questioned the expert extensively about her analysis. Before ruling on
    the objection, the district court discussed with Perry at length the relevance of the
    particular piece of information he sought to elicit. On appeal, Perry cannot say how
    the expert’s answer to the question he was prevented from asking—“what is a
    ‘blob’?”—would have contributed to his defense. The minimal constraint the court
    placed on Perry’s ability to confront the government’s witness posed no constitutional
    problem, and the court did not abuse its discretion by its evidentiary rulings. See
    United States v. Brown, 
    788 F.3d 830
    , 833 (8th Cir. 2015) (“Courts ‘retain wide
    latitude insofar as the Confrontation Clause is concerned to impose reasonable limits
    on such cross-examination based on concerns about, among other things, . . .
    interrogation that is repetitive or only marginally relevant.’”), quoting Delaware v.
    Van Arsdall, 
    475 U.S. 673
    , 679 (1986).
    III.
    Perry argues he should not have been sentenced under the Armed Career
    Criminal Act (“ACCA”). ACCA mandates a sentence of at least 15 years for felons-
    in-possession “who ha[ve] three previous convictions . . . for a violent felony . . .
    committed on occasions different from one another.” 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(1). The
    district court held that Perry qualified based on (1) his convictions for first-degree
    aggravated robbery, simple robbery, and second-degree assault, all arising out of a
    holdup of a gas station; (2) another conviction for second-degree assault, following
    the gas-station robbery; and (3) a conviction for felony domestic assault. All of these
    convictions were under Minnesota law.
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    A.
    Perry argues his conviction for first-degree aggravated robbery is not a “violent
    felony.” This court recently rejected Perry’s argument. See United States v. Libby,
    
    880 F.3d 1011
    , 1014–16 (8th Cir. 2018) (“[T]he elements of Minn. Stat. § 609.245,
    subd. 1 categorically present a ‘violent felony’ under the ACCA.”). See generally
    Mader v. United States, 
    654 F.3d 794
    , 800 (8th Cir. 2011) (en banc).
    B.
    Perry’s second argument presents a closer question. He argues that the conduct
    underlying his robbery and assault convictions all took place on the same “occasion,”
    so they should not be counted separately for ACCA purposes. If correct, he would
    have at most two qualifying “violent felony” convictions, not the necessary three.
    Perry entered a gas station, pointed a gun at the cashier, and took money from
    the register. That conduct led to Perry’s robbery convictions and the first of his
    second-degree-assault convictions, all of which the district court treated as a single
    ACCA predicate. Grabbing the cash, Perry ran outside, still holding the gun.
    Someone saw him. As Perry fled, this witness drove after him. Perry then shot
    toward the witness’s vehicle, close enough that the witness heard a “zing” and
    smelled gunpowder. For that, Perry received his other second-degree-assault
    conviction.
    The question is whether the second assault was “committed on [an] occasion[]
    different from” the robbery itself. 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(1). Three main factors bear on
    this question: “(1) the time lapse between offenses, (2) the physical distance between
    their occurrence, and (3) their lack of overall substantive continuity, a factor that is
    often demonstrated in the violent-felony context by different victims or different
    aggressions.” United States v. Willoughby, 
    653 F.3d 738
    , 743 (8th Cir. 2011).
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    The time lapse between Perry’s crimes was not long, but they were far from
    simultaneous. That distinguishes this case from the two Perry cites. See 
    id. at 744
    (explaining that the crimes at issue “occurred within seconds,” “almost
    simultaneously”); United States v. Petty, 
    828 F.2d 2
    , 3 (8th Cir. 1987) (per curiam)
    (addressing the defendant’s “simultaneous robbery of six individuals at a restaurant”).
    Also,“[c]rimes occurring even minutes apart can qualify . . . if they have different
    victims and are committed in different locations.” United States v. Deroo, 
    304 F.3d 824
    , 828 (8th Cir. 2002); accord, e.g., United States v. Humphrey, 
    759 F.3d 909
    , 912
    (8th Cir. 2014).
    With respect to distance, Perry committed his crimes in different locations.
    The robbery and the first assault occurred in the gas station, at the checkout counter.
    Before the second assault, Perry left the station and ran some distance away. He did
    not get far, but even a short distance can be enough to separate two crimes. See
    United States v. Gray, 
    85 F.3d 380
    , 380–81 (8th Cir. 1996) (holding that back-to-
    back burglaries of two houses “located very close to each other” were committed on
    different occasions); United States v. Hamell, 
    3 F.3d 1187
    , 1191 (8th Cir. 1993)
    (holding that a stabbing inside a tavern and a shooting outside the tavern “happened
    at different . . . places”); cf. 
    Willoughby, 653 F.3d at 744
    (holding that the distance
    factor cut against counting drug sales separately when the two buyers “stood side-by-
    side” and “virtually no distance separated the two sales”).
    Perry’s crimes also had different victims. The witness who chased Perry—the
    victim of the second assault—had nothing to do with the initial robbery. He was
    outside the gas station and became involved only after Perry completed the robbery
    and fled. And the “aggression” Perry committed against the witness—shooting
    toward him—was also distinct from his threat against the gas-station cashier. See
    United States v. Davidson, 
    527 F.3d 703
    , 710 (8th Cir.) (“[C]rimes committed in
    rapid succession are still committed on different occasions when they ‘reflect distinct
    aggressions.’”), vacated in part on other grounds, 
    551 F.3d 807
    (8th Cir. 2008),
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    quoting United States v. Godinez, 
    998 F.2d 471
    , 473 (7th Cir. 1993). Having
    different victims and involving different aggressions can demonstrate that even
    “substantially simultaneous ‘violent felonies’” were committed on different
    occasions. 
    Willoughby, 653 F.3d at 742
    . “[T]he nature of [such] crimes enable[s] us
    to assess their separateness and distinctness based, not just on temporal grounds, but
    additionally on whether they involved different victims or ‘aggressions.’” 
    Id., quoting Davidson,
    527 F.3d at 710.
    For his part, Perry emphasizes the close relationship between his crimes,
    characterizing the shooting as just an instinctive response to being pursued for the
    robbery. Even if true, that does not mean the crimes were committed on the same
    occasion. In Levering v. United States, this court declined to adopt a general rule that
    “when a person is evading or resisting arrest immediately following the actions giving
    rise to the arrest, subsequent offenses arising out of the evasion or resistance are part
    of the same criminal episode.” 
    890 F.3d 738
    , 742 (8th Cir. 2018), quoting United
    States v. Clark, 591 F. App’x 367, 376 (6th Cir. 2014) (unpublished). Levering
    involved a defendant who led police on a high-speed chase in a stolen vehicle. See
    
    id. at 739.
    He crossed county lines and was convicted of assault in multiple counties,
    for running other cars and trucks off the road. See 
    id. This court
    held that two of the
    assault convictions were separate for ACCA purposes, rejecting the argument that
    they should be merged because they were part of a single course of conduct motivated
    by a desire to get away with the vehicle. 
    Id. at 742.
    There is no justification to count
    two of Levering’s crimes but only one of Perry’s.
    Perry posits that our holding in Levering, as well as in another case, United
    States v. Davidson, rested on the fact the defendant had contact with law enforcement
    between his crimes. Nothing in Levering or Davidson suggests that police
    intervention was essential to the result in either case. See 
    Levering, 890 F.3d at 742
    ;
    
    Davidson, 527 F.3d at 707
    –10. To be sure, Davidson says that a traffic stop
    separating the two crimes at issue served as a “point of demarcation between
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    episodes.” 
    Davidson, 527 F.3d at 710
    . But the stop was relevant there because it
    helped demonstrate that the first crime “was completed” and the second had not yet
    begun, not because contact with the police has some special significance in this
    context. 
    Id. Likewise, what
    mattered in Levering was not that the pursuit involved
    the police, but that it lasted long enough to give the defendant “an opportunity ‘to
    cease and desist from further criminal activity,’ by discontinuing the chase or making
    a conscious choice to avoid assaulting other drivers whom he encountered on the
    road.” 
    Levering, 890 F.3d at 742
    , quoting 
    Davidson, 527 F.3d at 710
    .
    The same is true here. Perry had time after he left the gas station to choose to
    give up, or at least to try to escape without committing another life-threatening
    criminal act against a new victim. The district court did not err in counting his crimes
    separately.2
    C.
    Perry challenges the counting of his conviction for felony domestic assault.
    Domestic assault is a misdemeanor, but it can be enhanced to a felony if committed
    within ten years of two or more convictions for certain other crimes. Minn. Stat.
    § 609.2242, subdiv. 4. Perry’s argument rests on his belief that his domestic-assault
    conviction was enhanced based on a second-degree-assault conviction that itself
    2
    This holding rests on the undisputed facts in Perry’s presentence investigation
    report. Although Perry did suggest a need for “additional factual review,” he did not
    object to any of the relevant facts in the report, and his argument addressed the
    application of the legal standard, not the accuracy of the facts. See United States v.
    Bledsoe, 
    445 F.3d 1069
    , 1073 (8th Cir. 2006) (explaining that if a defendant does not
    “make[] a specific objection to a factual allegation in the presentence report,” the
    district court can accept the fact as true). In addition, the other documents and
    information offered at sentencing would not affect this holding. This court therefore
    need not address whether the district court properly admitted and considered those
    materials.
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    counted as a “violent felony.” In Perry’s view, this constitutes improper “double-
    dipping” and a violation of due process.
    Classifying Perry’s conviction as a “violent felony” is entirely consistent with
    the terms of the statute. Perry does not argue otherwise. As relevant, ACCA defines
    a “violent felony” as a crime that “has as an element the use, attempted use, or
    threatened use of physical force against the person of another” and is “punishable by
    imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.” 18 U.S.C. § 924(e)(2)(B)(i). There is
    no question that Minnesota domestic assault involves force to the necessary degree.
    See Minn. Stat. § 609.2242, subdiv. 1 (requiring the defendant to “commit[] an act
    with intent to cause fear in another of immediate bodily harm or death” or
    “intentionally inflict[] or attempt[] to inflict bodily harm upon another”); United
    States v. Schaffer, 
    818 F.3d 796
    , 798 (8th Cir. 2016). Minnesota law also clearly
    states the potential sentence: “Whoever violates the provisions of this section . . .
    within ten years of the first of any combination of two or more previous qualified
    domestic violence-related offense convictions . . . is guilty of a felony and may be
    sentenced to imprisonment for not more than five years . . . .” Minn. Stat.
    § 609.2242, subdiv. 4. And second-degree assault is a “qualified domestic violence-
    related offense.” See 
    id. § 609.02,
    subdiv. 16. Accordingly, Perry’s domestic-assault
    conviction comfortably fits both parts of ACCA’s definition of a “violent felony.”
    Perry also believes that using his second-degree-assault conviction twice is
    constitutionally improper. He cites no authority. As the government explains, the
    conviction was “employed for two different purposes”: first as a crime in its own
    right; second as an element in a different crime, involving different acts of violence.
    This court need not definitively resolve this issue, however, because Perry’s
    domestic-assault conviction would have been a felony even without the earlier assault
    conviction. The criminal complaint in Perry’s domestic-assault case (which he filed
    as an exhibit to his sentencing memorandum) listed three “qualified domestic
    violence-related offense convictions” as the basis to enhance the charge to a felony:
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    the second-degree-assault conviction and two unrelated convictions for making
    terroristic threats. See 
    id. Because only
    two qualifying convictions are required for
    the enhancement, 
    id. § 609.2242,
    subdiv. 4, the terroristic-threat convictions are
    enough on their own. Accordingly, this court need not decide the due-process issue
    Perry raises.3
    IV.
    The judgment is affirmed.
    STRAS, Circuit Judge, concurring.
    The court’s approach in addressing Perry’s past crimes, and in particular
    whether he committed them “on occasions different from one another,” falls in line
    with our cases but is a departure from fundamental Sixth Amendment principles. I
    join the court’s opinion because it is a faithful application of existing circuit
    precedent, but I write separately to express my concerns about what is, in my view,
    an erosion of the jury-trial right. See U.S. Const. amend. VI (“In all criminal
    prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an
    impartial jury . . . .”).
    The relevant facts here are simple. Years ago, Perry fired a warning shot at a
    witness after robbing a gas station. Thanks to the arcane workings of the Armed
    Career Criminal Act, he now faces a ten-year maximum sentence for each of his most
    3
    Perry also argues the district court erred in determining his recommended
    sentence because his prior convictions did not qualify as “crimes of violence” under
    section 4B1.2(a) of the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines. See also U.S.S.G. § 2K2.1(a)(2).
    This challenge depends on his ACCA argument. See, e.g., United States v. Hall, 
    877 F.3d 800
    , 806 (8th Cir. 2017) (noting overlap between ACCA and the Guidelines).
    This court need not address it separately.
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    recent convictions if the shot and the robbery happened on the same “occasion,” but
    a fifteen-year mandatory minimum with no upper limit if they happened on different
    “occasions.” 18 U.S.C. § 924(a)(2), (e)(1).
    The constitutional standard is simple too. “Other than the fact of a prior
    conviction, any fact that increases the penalty for a crime beyond the prescribed
    statutory maximum must be submitted to a jury, and proved beyond a reasonable
    doubt.” Apprendi v. New Jersey, 
    530 U.S. 466
    , 490 (2000); see also Alleyne v.
    United States, 
    570 U.S. 99
    , 103 (2013) (holding that “any fact that increases the
    mandatory minimum is [also] an ‘element’ that must be submitted to the jury”).
    Simple facts and simple law should lead to a simple conclusion. A finding that
    Perry committed his past crimes on different occasions exposes him to a longer
    sentence, so the jury should make the finding, not the court. To be sure, the Supreme
    Court has carved out an exception allowing district courts to find “the fact of a prior
    conviction.” 
    Alleyne, 570 U.S. at 111
    n.1; 
    Apprendi, 530 U.S. at 489
    ; see also
    Almendarez-Torres v. United States, 
    523 U.S. 224
    , 247 (1998). But the exception is
    “narrow,” 
    Alleyne, 570 U.S. at 111
    n.1, and permits the court to “do no more . . . than
    determine what crime, with what elements, the defendant was convicted of,” Mathis
    v. United States, 
    136 S. Ct. 2243
    , 2252 (2016).
    The district court did much more here. Determining whether Perry committed
    his robbery and assaults on separate occasions is not just a straightforward matter of
    identifying the crimes he committed. Rather, it requires closely examining what he
    did to commit each offense, when and where he did it, and what he did in between.
    The court must then weigh “at least three factors”—the timing, location, and “overall
    substantive continuity” of the crimes, plus whatever else might be relevant in a
    particular case—in a context-specific balancing test that we still struggle to put into
    words. United States v. Willoughby, 
    653 F.3d 738
    , 742–43 (8th Cir. 2011); see also,
    e.g., Levering v. United States, 
    890 F.3d 738
    , 740 (8th Cir. 2018) (lamenting that an
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    attempted reformulation of what counts as an “occasion” just “raise[d] more
    questions”). This analysis crosses the line from “identifying the crime[s] of
    conviction” into the forbidden territory of “explor[ing] the manner in which the
    defendant committed th[e] offense[s].” 
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2252
    .
    Nonetheless, our cases steadfastly insist that judges can make the heavily
    fact-dependent different-occasions determination because it is “among the
    recidivism-related facts” exempt from the general rule. United States v. Harris, 
    794 F.3d 885
    , 887 (8th Cir. 2015); accord, e.g., United States v. Evans, 
    738 F.3d 935
    , 936
    (8th Cir. 2014) (per curiam) (citing United States v. Ramsey, 498 F. App’x 653, 654
    (8th Cir. 2013) (unpublished per curiam)). But there is no such exception, at least as
    far as the Supreme Court is concerned. There is just the one unique fact that courts
    may find: “the simple fact of a prior conviction.” 
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2252
    .
    Indeed, if all facts having some relationship to recidivism were exempt from
    the Sixth Amendment, then the leading ACCA cases would not contain the reasoning
    that they do. In Mathis, the fact at issue was whether the location of a previous
    burglary was a building or a vehicle, 
    id. at 2250;
    in Descamps v. United States, it was
    whether the defendant had entered a store legally or illegally, 
    570 U.S. 254
    , 259
    (2013). Those facts were no less “recidivism-related” than whether Perry committed
    his back-to-back crimes on different occasions. Yet the opinions in both cases
    emphasized that letting a court find them “would raise serious Sixth Amendment
    concerns.” 
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2252
    ; 
    Descamps, 570 U.S. at 269
    .
    I acknowledge that our approach of permitting a judge to make the
    different-occasions determination puts us in good company. See United States v.
    Blair, 
    734 F.3d 218
    , 228 (3d Cir. 2013) (collecting cases from most other circuits).
    The predominant explanation resembles our own. Most courts reason that the when
    and where of a past crime is inseparable from the fact of conviction, so the
    prior-conviction exception covers them too. See, e.g., United States v. Thompson,
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    421 F.3d 278
    , 286 (4th Cir. 2005) (“To take notice of the different dates or locations
    of burglaries—something inherent in the conviction—is to take notice of different
    occasions of burglary as a matter of law.”); United States v. Burgin, 
    388 F.3d 177
    ,
    186 (6th Cir. 2004).
    Inertia may be part of the explanation. Sometimes courts just continue along
    the same well-trodden path even in the face of clear signs to turn around. We have
    missed more than a few bread crumbs leading away. The Supreme Court has all but
    announced that an expansive view of the prior-conviction exception is inconsistent
    with the Sixth Amendment.
    First, in Alleyne, the Court characterized the prior-conviction exception as
    
    “narrow.” 570 U.S. at 111
    n.1. Then in Descamps, the Court rejected an approach
    allowing district courts to look at the records of a prior conviction to determine “what
    [a] defendant actually did,” because it would extend “judicial factfinding beyond the
    recognition of a prior 
    conviction.” 570 U.S. at 268
    –69. And finally, there simply is
    no way to square an expansive view of the prior-conviction exception with Mathis,
    which left little doubt that a finding of whether a burglary involved a building or a
    vehicle—in other words, the location of the crime—cannot be treated the same as the
    fact of a prior 
    conviction. 136 S. Ct. at 2252
    . Yet most courts, even after Alleyne,
    Descamps, and Mathis, assign judges the role of finding even more facts—including
    the timing, location, and nature of multiple convictions—in search of an answer to
    the vexing different-occasions question.
    A misunderstanding of the permissible uses of Shepard documents may also
    account for the predominant view. Some courts claim that there is no Sixth
    Amendment problem as long as courts limit themselves to facts taken from charging
    documents, plea agreements, and comparable materials—more commonly known as
    Shepard documents. See, e.g., United States v. King, 
    853 F.3d 267
    , 273 (6th Cir.
    2017); see also Shepard v. United States, 
    544 U.S. 13
    , 26 (2005); Taylor v. United
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    States, 
    495 U.S. 575
    , 602 (1990). “[R]epurpos[ing]” Taylor and Shepard to justify
    judicial fact-finding, however, turns those decisions on their heads. Mathis, 136 S.
    Ct. at 2254.
    Taylor serves as the starting point for the “categorical” approach in ACCA
    cases, the whole point of which (as the Court has repeatedly reminded us) is to
    analyze the legal elements of past crimes, not their underlying facts. 
    See 495 U.S. at 600
    ; see also, e.g., 
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2248
    ; 
    Descamps, 570 U.S. at 261
    . Taylor
    also answered the practical question of how to determine a defendant’s crime (and
    thus what legal elements to analyze) when a criminal statute defines more than one
    offense. 
    See 495 U.S. at 602
    . The answer, according to the Court, is to allow district
    courts to review a limited set of documents to identify the actual offense of
    conviction. See 
    id. Shepard, for
    its part, merely reaffirmed Taylor’s approach and
    supplemented its list of acceptable documents to cover cases in which a prior
    conviction follows a guilty plea rather than a trial. 
    See 544 U.S. at 20
    –21, 23.
    Shepard documents accordingly serve a specific and narrow function; they are
    not an excuse for allowing courts to dig through the record to find facts. To the
    contrary, properly used, they do not support fact-finding at all. The Court made that
    abundantly clear in Descamps by prohibiting judges from “look[ing] to reliable
    materials (the charging document, jury instructions, plea colloquy, and so forth) to
    determine what facts [could] confidently be thought to underlie the defendant’s
    
    conviction.” 570 U.S. at 265
    –66 (internal quotation marks, brackets, and citation
    omitted). The reason, the Court explained, is that when there is no need to choose
    between multiple possible crimes, Shepard documents simply “ha[ve] no role to
    play.” 
    Id. at 264.
    The approach the Court rejected in Descamps is not meaningfully different
    from using Shepard documents to make the different-occasions determination. Both
    call for sifting through record materials for evidence of what a defendant actually did,
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    either to determine whether it fits the definition of a violent felony, see 
    id. at 259–60,
    or to determine if two or more crimes were committed on different occasions, see
    
    King, 853 F.3d at 274
    . If one improperly “convert[s] [the categorical] approach into
    its opposite,” 
    Descamps, 570 U.S. at 274
    , so does the other.
    *       *       *
    What the district court did in this case is “just what [the Supreme Court] ha[s]
    said it cannot” do. 
    Id. at 270.
    But it is also what we have expressly and repeatedly
    instructed district courts they should do. See 
    Harris, 794 F.3d at 887
    (after
    Descamps); 
    Evans, 738 F.3d at 936
    (same). I reluctantly concur.
    KELLY, Circuit Judge, concurring in part and dissenting in part.
    I join the court’s opinion except as to Part III.B. Perry objected to the facts
    concerning his robbery and assault convictions that were recited in the presentence
    investigation report and asked the court to undertake “additional factual review” of
    the convictions before determining whether they were committed on different
    occasions. Most important, Perry argued that he “was still on the property of the gas
    station” when he fired the gun—not “some distance away,” as the court recounts. The
    presentence investigation report was unclear on this point, stating only that Perry
    “fled from the gas station on foot” before firing the gun.
    Because the facts in the presentence investigation report were disputed, the
    district court should not have relied on them. Instead, this court’s precedent called
    for a review of the documents approved by Shepard v. United States, 
    544 U.S. 13
    (2005)—that is, “the charging document, jury instructions, plea agreement or plea
    hearing transcript, and comparable judicial records”—to determine whether the two
    convictions took place on different occasions. United States v. Pledge, 
    821 F.3d 1035
    , 1037 (8th Cir. 2016) (quoting United States v. Salean, 
    583 F.3d 1059
    , 1061
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    (8th Cir. 2009)). But I suspect that in this case, as in most cases, properly used
    Shepard documents would not assist the district court in its different-occasions
    determination, because time, place, and overall substantive continuity are facts, not
    legal elements, of the prior offenses. See 
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2248
    (“‘Elements’ are
    the constituent parts of a crime’s legal definition—the things the prosecution must
    prove to sustain a conviction. . . . Facts, by contrast, are mere real-world
    things—extraneous to the crime’s legal requirements. . . . And ACCA, as we have
    always understood it, cares not a whit about them.” (cleaned up)).
    So how is a district court to undertake the different-occasions analysis? The
    three-factor test used by this court calls for a factual determination, so in my view, the
    district court should do just that. I agree with the concurrence that judicial
    determination of facts that increase the penalty for a crime beyond the prescribed
    statutory maximum would appear to conflict with Supreme Court precedent. See
    
    Mathis, 136 S. Ct. at 2252
    ; 
    Descamps, 570 U.S. at 268
    –69; 
    Alleyne, 570 U.S. at 103
    ;
    
    Apprendi, 530 U.S. at 490
    . But that’s just what our case law requires, at least until
    the Supreme Court, or this court sitting en banc, takes up the issue. See 
    Levering, 890 F.3d at 741
    (citing facts recited in Shepard documents when undertaking the
    different-occasions analysis); 
    Evans, 738 F.3d at 936
    (“[T]he question of whether
    prior felonies were committed on separate occasions may be resolved by a judge.”
    (quoting Ramsey, 498 F. App’x at 654)); 
    Willoughby, 653 F.3d at 744
    (citing “the
    record evidence” when undertaking the different-occasions analysis); 
    Deroo, 304 F.3d at 828
    (explaining that district courts have discretion “to assess whether an
    evidentiary hearing” is necessary before “enter[ing] findings as to whether [prior
    offenses] were separate offenses or part of a continuing course of criminal conduct”).4
    4
    Several other circuits have explicitly limited the different-occasions
    determination to Shepard documents. See United States v. King, 
    853 F.3d 267
    ,
    273–74 (6th Cir. 2017) (listing cases). But they continue to approve of the use of
    Shepard documents to find facts, not elements. See, e.g., United States v. Bordeaux,
    
    886 F.3d 189
    , 197 (2d Cir. 2018) (finding the district court’s reliance on a police
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    Based on the current state of the law in this circuit, I would remand the case to
    the district court to make the necessary findings regarding when, where, and how
    Perry committed the robbery and the assault, and then to determine whether those
    crimes were committed on different occasions.
    ______________________________
    report not clearly erroneous because the transcript of the state-court plea colloquy
    confirmed the precise time that the defendant committed a prior robbery); United
    States v. Southers, 
    866 F.3d 364
    , 369–70 (6th Cir. 2017) (approving the district
    court’s review of indictments to determine that one robbery took place at “the Golden
    Gallon,” whereas the other took place at “Favorite Market”). These cases illustrate
    the difficulty of performing the different-occasions analysis by using Shepard
    documents as the Supreme Court has instructed them to be used.
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