Stephen Fon v. Merrick Garland ( 2022 )


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  •                      FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    STEPHEN TAMUFOR FON,                               No. 20-73166
    Petitioner,
    Agency No.
    v.                           A203-679-900
    MERRICK B. GARLAND, Attorney
    General,                                             OPINION
    Respondent.
    On Petition for Review of an Order of the
    Board of Immigration Appeals
    Submitted December 7, 2021 *
    San Francisco, California
    Filed May 18, 2022
    Before: Susan P. Graber and Daniel P. Collins, Circuit
    Judges, and Jennifer Choe-Groves, ** Judge.
    *
    The panel unanimously concludes this case is suitable for decision
    without oral argument. See Fed. R. App. P. 34(a)(2).
    **
    The Honorable Jennifer Choe-Groves, Judge for the United States
    Court of International Trade, sitting by designation.
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    Opinion by Judge Graber;
    Concurrence by Judge Graber;
    Concurrence by Judge Collins;
    Partial Concurrence and Partial Dissent by
    Judge Choe-Groves
    SUMMARY ***
    Immigration
    Granting in part and denying in part Stephen Tamufor
    Fon’s petition for review of a decision of the Board of
    Immigration Appeals, and remanding, the panel held that:
    (1) the record compelled a finding of past persecution;
    (2) the agency’s flawed reasoning as to nexus precluded
    meaningful review of that determination; and (3) substantial
    evidence supported the denial of relief under the Convention
    Against Torture.
    While tending to the wounds of a separatist fighter at a
    local hospital, Cameroonian soldiers punched Fon, attacked
    him with a knife (requiring him to seek medical attention and
    leaving a three-inch scar), and threatened to kill him if they
    ever caught him treating separatists again. Although Fon did
    not return to his job at the hospital, he continued treating
    separatist fighters at his home. Cameroonian soldiers later
    went looking for Fon and ransacked his home. The panel
    held that the harm Fon suffered, including the physical
    injury, the specific death threats connected to the physical
    ***
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    harm, and evidence of the country’s political and societal
    turmoil, compelled the finding of past persecution.
    The agency concluded that Fon failed to establish a
    nexus to a protected ground for two reasons: (1) because he
    had not provided any declarations from coworkers or family
    members regarding what happened to him in Cameroon; and
    (2) because he had not testified as to what happened to a
    hospital coworker who helped Fon treat the wounded
    separatist. The panel held that the first reason was invalid
    because the immigration judge failed to give Fon advance
    notice of what additional corroborating evidence was
    required, and an opportunity to produce it, or to explain why
    it was not available. The panel wrote that the IJ’s second
    reason was vague, because it was not directly responsive to
    Fon’s argument that, due to the medical assistance he
    provided, Cameroonian soldiers perceived him as working
    with the opposition. The panel wrote that it also was not
    clear whether this reason rested on the flawed findings of
    fact concerning past persecution or whether this reason (like
    the first one) faulted Fon for not providing corroborative
    evidence. In light of these ambiguities, the panel concluded
    that it could not conduct a meaningful review of the agency’s
    nexus determination, and it remanded for a clear
    explanation.
    The panel held that substantial evidence supported the
    denial of CAT relief because Fon did not suffer past torture,
    and the record contained no evidence of an individualized
    future risk of torture.
    Concurring, Judge Graber wrote separately to discuss
    this circuit’s standard, and to note a circuit split concerning
    the proper standard to use, when the court reviews the
    Board’s determination that a particular set of facts does or
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    does not rise to the level of persecution. Judge Graber wrote
    that this circuit has found a middle way by recognizing that
    this is a mixed question of law and fact, and that although at
    first glance there appears to be some inconsistency in this
    circuit’s precedent, in her view, no true inconsistency exists.
    Judge Graber explained that not all mixed questions are
    alike, and that the applicable standard depends on whether
    answering the mixed question entails primarily legal or
    factual work. Judge Graber wrote that determining whether
    an applicant’s harm crosses the persecution threshold
    usually involves very little legal work, rather it requires
    measuring the severity of the alleged harms that the
    applicant has suffered, looking at the cumulative effect of all
    the incidents, and comparing the facts of the applicant’s case
    with those of similar cases. For that reason, the substantial
    evidence standard usually applies. However, Judge Graber
    wrote that in rare cases, answering the mixed question entails
    very little factual work, such as cases involving the agency’s
    evidentiary rules for showing past persecution, or the legal
    nature or significance of the harm suffered, in which case de
    novo review applies. Although in Judge Graber’s view this
    circuit’s law is consistent, and more nuanced than that of
    other circuits applying only substantial evidence or de novo
    review to all cases, she shares Judge Collins’s view that
    Supreme Court guidance on this important, recurring topic
    would be welcome.
    Concurring, Judge Collins agreed that the record
    compelled the conclusion that Fon suffered past persecution.
    Writing separately to respond to Judge Graber’s
    concurrence, Judge Collins stated that Judge Graber made a
    number of good points in favor of her position that, except
    in rare cases, substantial evidence is the correct standard for
    assessing whether a petitioner’s abuse rises to the level of
    past persecution. However, in Judge Collins’s view, the
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    question is actually quite a bit more complicated than Judge
    Graber’s concurrence suggests, and overlooks several
    significant complicating considerations.
    First, Judge Collins wrote that Judge Graber’s proposed
    solution implicates a further intra-circuit split concerning the
    standard of review for mixed questions of law and fact,
    including whether standards for reviewing judicial decisions
    are applicable in the administrative context. Second, Judge
    Graber’s proposed resolution of these intra-circuit conflicts
    does not fit well with the terms of the Immigration and
    Nationality Act (INA), which states only that the
    administrative findings of fact are conclusive unless any
    reasonable adjudicator would be compelled to conclude to
    the contrary, but does not say that any other determinations
    are subject to this highly deferential standard of review.
    Third, resolution of these intra-circuit conflicts may also
    require considering how traditional administrative law
    principles bear on the question. For example, failing
    properly to distinguish between the Board’s legal holdings
    and its factual conclusions obscures the question of what
    role, if any, principles of Chevron deference should play in
    this area. Moreover, although some of this circuit’s cases
    have assumed that the traditional “substantial evidence”
    principles of administrative review require that the court
    review mixed questions of law and fact only for substantial
    evidence, this also raises the possibility that perhaps the
    court should apply a different form of “substantial evidence”
    review from the specific one that the INA expressly
    establishes for findings of fact. Fourth, treating the question
    of whether certain undisputed harms rise to the level of past
    persecution as a factual finding, subject to the INA’s highly
    deferential standard of review, seems hard to square with the
    agency’s own view of the matter, where the Board has
    squarely held that the clearly erroneous standard governing
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    factual findings does not apply to the application of legal
    standards, such as whether the facts established by an alien
    amount to past persecution or a well-founded fear of
    persecution.
    Judge Collins wrote that the level of internal
    inconsistency and intellectual confusion in this circuit’s
    caselaw has become so great that only the en banc court can
    straighten it out (unless the Supreme Court decides to
    address the existing circuit split). Judge Collins suggested
    that the en banc court should take up these issues in an
    appropriate case in which the standard of review would
    make a difference. However, because the standard of review
    would not affect the outcome in this case, Judge Collins
    wrote that this is not that case.
    Concurring in part and dissenting in part, Judge Choe-
    Graves agreed with the majority’s denial of Fon’s request for
    CAT relief. However, because in her view substantial
    evidence supported the Board’s denial of Fon’s applications
    for asylum and withholding of removal, Judge Choe-Graves
    dissented from the remainder of the majority’s opinion
    granting the petition in part and remanding to the Board.
    COUNSEL
    Danielle Beach-Oswald, Beach-Oswald Immigration Law
    Associates PC, Washington, D.C., for Petitioner.
    Brian Boynton, Assistant Attorney General; Cindy S.
    Ferrier, Assistant Director; Sarai M. Aldana, Trial Attorney;
    Office of Immigration Litigation, Civil Division, United
    States Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; for
    Respondent.
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    OPINION
    GRABER, Circuit Judge:
    Petitioner Stephen Tamufor Fon, a native and citizen of
    the United Republic of Cameroon, seeks review of the Board
    of Immigration Appeals’ (“BIA”) denial of his applications
    for asylum, withholding of removal, and protection under the
    Convention Against Torture (“CAT”). The BIA denied
    asylum and withholding of removal on the grounds that
    Petitioner had (a) failed to demonstrate past persecution and
    (b) failed to prove a nexus between the feared harm and a
    protected ground. We conclude that the record compels a
    finding of past persecution and that the agency’s flawed
    reasoning as to nexus leaves us unable to conduct a
    meaningful review of that determination. We therefore grant
    the petition in part and remand for further proceedings as to
    asylum and withholding of removal. But substantial
    evidence supports the agency’s denial of relief under CAT,
    so we deny the petition in part.
    BACKGROUND
    Cameroon contains both an English-speaking region and
    a French-speaking region. In October 2016, activists in the
    English-speaking region campaigned to expand the use of
    the English language in schools and courtrooms. The
    campaign turned violent and, when separatist fighters
    declared the English-speaking region’s independence, the
    violence escalated into an ongoing war with the government
    of Cameroon. According to the 2018 Country Report from
    the United States Department of State, both sides have
    committed human rights abuses, including torture, rape,
    kidnappings, and indiscriminate killings of civilians.
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    Petitioner lived in Cameroon’s English-speaking region.
    He worked as a laboratory assistant at a local hospital, and
    part of his work included cleaning patients’ wounds. In
    December 2018, the hospital treated a patient who Petitioner
    suspected was a separatist fighter. While Petitioner tended
    to the wounds, four soldiers from the Cameroonian military
    “bashed into the ward” and “seized” the patient. Two
    soldiers took the patient away. The remaining two soldiers
    shouted at Petitioner and threatened to kill him if they caught
    him treating separatist fighters again. They then punched
    Petitioner and attacked him with a knife, leaving him with a
    three-inch scar on his left side.
    Petitioner never returned to work at the hospital. But he
    continued to treat separatist fighters in his home. On two
    occasions, three separatist fighters knocked on Petitioner’s
    door in the middle of the night, seeking medical treatment.
    Petitioner treated them. In January 2019, Petitioner’s
    neighbor told him that Cameroonian soldiers “had come
    looking for” him and had ransacked his home. Assuming
    that the soldiers had “credible information” that “I had
    treated people at my place,” and mindful of the earlier threat
    at the hospital, Petitioner hid at his friend’s house. He
    returned home once to collect his things, but he otherwise
    lived with his friend until he left Cameroon in February
    2019.
    Six months later, in August 2019, Petitioner arrived in
    the United States. He applied for asylum, withholding of
    removal, and relief under CAT. In January 2020, an
    immigration judge (“IJ”) expressly found him credible but
    denied all three applications. The BIA affirmed the denials,
    and this petition ensued.
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    DISCUSSION
    We address, in turn, the BIA’s denial of asylum,
    withholding of removal, and relief under CAT.
    A. Asylum
    To qualify for asylum, Petitioner must demonstrate that
    he “is unable or unwilling” to return to Cameroon “because
    of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on
    account of . . . [his] political opinion.”            
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(42)(A).       If Petitioner demonstrates past
    persecution, “then fear of future persecution is presumed.”
    Deloso v. Ashcroft, 
    393 F.3d 858
    , 863 (9th Cir. 2005). Here,
    the BIA concluded that Petitioner did not suffer past
    persecution and, without a presumption of future
    persecution, had not established a well-founded fear of
    future persecution. The BIA also held that Petitioner failed
    to show a nexus between his feared harm and a protected
    ground. See, e.g., Navas v. I.N.S., 
    217 F.3d 646
    , 656 (9th
    Cir. 2000) (explaining that an asylum applicant must show
    harm “that is ‘on account of’ one of the statutorily-protected
    grounds”). We address below the agency’s findings
    pertaining to past persecution and nexus.
    1. Past Persecution
    To establish past persecution, Petitioner must show past
    harm of a severity “that rise[s] to the level of persecution[.]”
    
    Id.
     The BIA rejected Petitioner’s argument that the severity
    of the harms that he experienced rose to the level of
    persecution. We “review for substantial evidence the BIA’s
    particular determination that a petitioner’s past harm ‘do[es]
    not amount to past persecution.’” Sharma v. Garland,
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    9 F.4th 1052
    , 1060 (9th Cir. 2021) (alteration in original)
    (citation omitted). 1
    “This circuit has defined persecution as the infliction of
    suffering or harm upon those who differ (in race, religion[,]
    or political opinion) in a way regarded as offensive.”
    Korablina v. I.N.S., 
    158 F.3d 1038
    , 1043 (9th Cir. 1998)
    (internal quotation marks omitted). But “persecution is an
    extreme concept that does not include every sort of treatment
    our society regards as offensive.” Ghaly v. I.N.S., 
    58 F.3d 1425
    , 1431 (9th Cir. 1995) (citation omitted). Accordingly,
    “some circumstances that cause petitioners physical
    discomfort or loss of liberty do not qualify as persecution,
    despite the fact that such conditions have caused the
    petitioners some harm.” Mihalev v. Ashcroft, 
    388 F.3d 722
    ,
    729 (9th Cir. 2004).
    “[A] good starting point for determining whether
    substantial evidence supports the BIA’s resolution of the
    issue” are the seven non-exhaustive factors identified in
    Sharma. Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1063. Although those factors
    are not determinative, they “often arise in these types of
    cases” and they “guide our analysis.” Id. at 1061.
    Three of those factors are present here: physical injury,
    specific threats, and evidence of the country’s political and
    societal turmoil. Id. at 1061–63. Soldiers stabbed Petitioner
    in the stomach, causing him to bleed enough that he required
    stitches, and leaving a three-inch scar. Petitioner testified
    1
    Because we would reach the same conclusion under any standard
    of review, we need not address whether a less deferential standard should
    pertain. See Xue v. Lynch, 
    846 F.3d 1099
    , 1104–06 & n.11 (10th Cir.
    2017) (noting a circuit split as to whether substantial evidence review or
    de novo review applies to the question whether particular facts rise to the
    level of persecution).
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    that the soldiers threatened him that, “[i]f they catch me
    treating [separatist fighters], they will treat – they will kill
    me.” In his written application, Petitioner stated that the
    soldiers “warned me if caught again, I will be killed.” 2 Over
    the next few weeks, Petitioner treated more separatist
    fighters at his house. Soldiers then came to his home, did
    not find him, and ransacked the home. Finally, undisputed
    evidence describes the English-speaking region of
    Cameroon as mired in a “crisis” that “developed into an
    armed conflict,” which has triggered “serious human rights
    violations and abuses by” both sides.
    We compare those facts to those in our recent decision
    in Aden v. Wilkinson, 
    989 F.3d 1073
     (9th Cir. 2021). There,
    members of Al-Shabaab, a group in Somalia, raided a movie
    theater owned by the petitioner’s brother. 
    Id. at 1083
    . They
    beat the petitioner “and cudgeled him on the head with the
    butt of a rifle, causing him to bleed profusely.” 
    Id.
     To
    ensure that the theater remained closed, they stole equipment
    from the theater. 
    Id.
     And, two weeks later, the petitioner’s
    brother received a phone call from Al-Shabaab with a death
    threat aimed at the petitioner. 
    Id.
     The petitioner never
    returned to his job at the theater, remained in hiding, and fled
    Somalia within two months. 
    Id.
     We emphasized that, “[i]n
    addition to physically beating [the petitioner], members of
    Al-Shabaab kept tabs on him by contacting his brother and
    warn[ing] they would kill [the petitioner] and his brother if
    2
    The BIA commented that Petitioner “characteriz[ed] the soldiers’
    threats as a joke.” The BIA clearly misread Petitioner’s testimony.
    Petitioner testified in both his oral and written testimony that the soldiers
    “made a joke about me playing Jesus Christ by trying to save the patient.”
    The joke was not the threat made by the soldier; rather, the soldier
    mocked Petitioner as purportedly thinking that he was a messianic figure.
    Petitioner plainly took the threat seriously and not as a joke. After the
    soldiers came to his house, he abandoned his home and fled the country.
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    they continued to disobey Al-Shabaab’s command.” 
    Id.
    Finally, the country-conditions evidence confirmed that Al-
    Shabaab remained a major force in the country and a danger
    to many. 
    Id. at 1084
    . We concluded that, “[t]ogether, this
    evidence compels the conclusion that [the petitioner]
    suffered persecution while in Somalia.” 
    Id.
    We see no meaningful distinction between the extent of
    harm in Aden and the extent of harm suffered by Petitioner.
    Here, as in Aden, Petitioner experienced a single episode of
    bloody physical violence, with Petitioner’s assault resulting
    in a visible scar. Here, as in Aden, the death threat was
    connected to the physical harm. And here, as in Aden, after
    receiving the death threat, Petitioner never returned to work
    and fled the country instead. If anything, Petitioner may
    have suffered greater harm than did the petitioner in Aden,
    because the knife wound in his abdomen required medical
    treatment, whereas the beating in Aden did not. And the
    soldiers followed up on their death threat to Petitioner,
    whereas Al-Shabaab did not.
    To be sure, as the dissent notes, the effect of the death
    threat in Aden differs from the effect here. There, the “chain
    of events reveals that Al-Shabaab intended to coerce Aden
    to submit to its new political and religious order, and used
    offensive strategies—beatings, destruction of property, and
    death threats—to achieve this goal.” 
    Id.
     By contrast, here,
    the strategies “did not coerce Fon into abandoning his lawful
    beliefs[.]” Dissent at p. 33. But that distinction misses the
    mark. “What matters in assessing the sufficiency of the
    threat to establish persecution[] is whether the group making
    the threat has the will or the ability to carry it out—not
    whether it is, in fact, carried out.” Aden, 989 F.3d at 1083
    (internal quotation marks omitted). Here, as in Aden, the
    persecutors harmed Petitioner physically and threatened
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    him. The persecutors showed that they had the will or the
    ability to carry out their death threat by visiting Petitioner’s
    home and ransacking it. Thus, the combination of physical
    harm and threat here sufficed to establish persecution. See
    id. at 1082 (“[W]hen the incidents have involved physical
    harm plus something more, such as credible death threats,
    we have not hesitated to conclude that the petitioner suffered
    persecution.” (emphasis omitted)). Considering the facts
    here in the context of the country-conditions evidence, we
    conclude that the record compels the conclusion that
    Petitioner suffered past persecution.
    Our other decisions are not to the contrary. For example,
    in Hoxha v. Ashcroft, 
    319 F.3d 1179
    , 1181 (9th Cir. 2003),
    the petitioner suffered a one-time beating and experienced
    threats. In rejecting Petitioner’s argument that the record
    compelled a finding of past persecution, we emphasized that
    the single incident of physical violence “was not connected
    with any particular threat” and that there was “no evidence
    that the attackers knew who [the petitioner] was or that they
    showed any continuing interest in him.” 
    Id. at 1182
    . By
    contrast, here, a connection exists between the physical harm
    and the death threat because the soldiers made the threat
    while they stabbed Petitioner. In addition, because the
    soldiers later came to Petitioner’s home and looked for him
    there, the record contains further “evidence that the attackers
    knew who [the petitioner] was” and that they showed
    “continuing interest in him.” Id.; see also Gu v. Gonzales,
    
    454 F.3d 1014
    , 1019–21 (9th Cir. 2006) (holding that a one-
    time beating did not compel a finding of past persecution);
    Prasad v. I.N.S., 
    47 F.3d 336
    , 339–40 (9th Cir. 1995)
    (holding that a one-time beating plus another incident that
    caused damage to the petitioner’s home did not compel a
    finding of past persecution).
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    In sum, the incidents that Petitioner suffered compel a
    finding that Petitioner experienced past persecution.
    2. Nexus
    To prevail on an asylum claim, an applicant also must
    demonstrate that the persecution was “on account of” a
    statutorily protected ground. Parussimova v. Mukasey, 
    555 F.3d 734
    , 739 (9th Cir. 2009). To meet this “nexus”
    requirement, an applicant must show that the protected
    ground was “at least one central reason” why the applicant
    was persecuted. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(i). “[A] motive
    is a ‘central reason’ if the persecutor would not have harmed
    the applicant if such motive did not exist.” Parussimova,
    
    555 F.3d at 741
    .
    Here, the BIA wrote in full: “Contrary to his contentions
    on appeal, [Petitioner] did not establish any nexus between
    his mistreatment and a protected ground, including his status
    as an Anglophone or an imputed political opinion contrary
    to the government.” The BIA provided no further
    explanation, but it cited the IJ’s discussion of this point. The
    BIA’s lack of analysis, along with the citation to the IJ’s
    opinion, “suggests that the BIA gave significant weight to
    the IJ’s findings.” Avetova-Elisseva v. I.N.S., 
    213 F.3d 1192
    ,
    1197 (9th Cir. 2000). Thus, we may “look to the IJ’s oral
    decision as a guide to what lay behind the BIA’s
    conclusion.” 
    Id.
    The IJ addressed Petitioner’s “nexus” argument that,
    because he was an Anglophone, he would be perceived as
    “working with the opposition group” and that, therefore, “he
    has an imputed political opinion.” The IJ rejected
    Petitioner’s “nexus” arguments for two reasons: because
    Petitioner had “not provided any declarations from
    coworkers or family members regarding what happened to
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    him in Cameroon” and because he had not testified as to
    “what happened to his coworker that was helping him with
    this individual who was wounded.”
    The first reason was invalid. The IJ could not rely on the
    absence of corroborative evidence to reject a finding of
    nexus without having given Petitioner advance notice of
    what additional evidence was required and an opportunity to
    produce it or to explain why it was not available. Bhattarai
    v. Lynch, 
    835 F.3d 1037
    , 1042–43 (9th Cir. 2016) (citing Ren
    v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d 1079
    , 1093 (9th Cir. 2011)). Because
    that did not occur here, “we must grant the petition and
    remand.” Id. at 1043.
    The IJ’s second reason is vague. Petitioner argued that
    the Cameroonian soldiers perceived him as working with the
    opposition group because he personally had provided
    medical treatment to separatist fighters. The IJ’s second
    reason is not directly responsive to that argument. It also is
    not clear whether this reason rested on the flawed findings
    of fact concerning past persecution or whether this reason
    (like the first one) faulted Petitioner for not providing
    corroborative evidence. In light of these ambiguities, we
    cannot know whether there are valid grounds on which the
    BIA rejected Petitioner’s nexus argument. “Without
    knowing the basis of the [BIA]’s decision, we cannot
    conduct a meaningful review. We therefore remand to the
    BIA for a clear explanation.” Delgado v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d 1095
    , 1108 (9th Cir. 2011) (en banc).
    In sum, a remand is required.
    B. Withholding of Removal
    The BIA denied withholding of removal for the same
    reasons it denied asylum—lack of past persecution and lack
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    of nexus. We therefore grant the petition as to the claim for
    withholding of removal and remand for further proceedings
    as to this form of relief.
    C. CAT Relief
    Substantial evidence supports the BIA’s determination
    that Petitioner failed to show that it is “more likely than not
    that he . . . would be tortured if removed to the proposed
    country of removal.” 
    8 C.F.R. § 208.16
    (c)(2). Petitioner did
    not suffer past torture, and the record contains no evidence
    of individualized future risk of torture. We therefore deny
    the petition as to CAT relief.
    PETITION GRANTED IN PART, DENIED IN
    PART, AND REMANDED. Each party shall bear its
    own costs on appeal.
    GRABER, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    I write separately to discuss our standard of review in
    cases of this kind. As noted in the opinion, there is a circuit
    split concerning the proper standard to use when we review
    the BIA’s determination that a particular set of facts does or
    does not rise to the level of persecution. Our circuit has
    found a middle way by recognizing that this is a mixed
    question of law and fact.
    In general, “[p]etitions for review from BIA decisions in
    asylum cases are reviewed under the substantial evidence
    standard.” Chand v. I.N.S., 
    222 F.3d 1066
    , 1073 (9th Cir.
    2000). Under this standard, “[t]he [agency]’s decision must
    be affirmed unless the petitioner can establish ‘that the
    evidence he presented was so compelling that no reasonable
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    factfinder could fail to find [eligibility for asylum].” Pal v.
    I.N.S., 
    204 F.3d 935
    , 937 n.2 (9th Cir. 2000) (third alteration
    in original) (quoting I.N.S. v. Elias-Zacarias, 
    502 U.S. 478
    ,
    483–84 (1992)). “This strict standard bars a reviewing court
    from independently weighing the evidence and holding that
    the petitioner is eligible for asylum, except in cases where
    compelling evidence is shown.” Kotasz v. I.N.S., 
    31 F.3d 847
    , 851 (9th Cir. 1994).
    Our cases contain, at first glance, an apparent
    inconsistency. In scores of cases, both published and
    unpublished, we have held that we “review for substantial
    evidence the BIA’s particular determination that a
    petitioner’s past harm ‘do[es] not amount to past
    persecution.’” Sharma v. Garland, 
    9 F.4th 1052
    , 1061 (9th
    Cir. 2021) (alteration in original) (citation omitted). 1 But in
    two cases, we held that we review de novo “[w]hether
    particular acts constitute persecution for asylum purposes.”
    Kaur v. Wilkinson, 
    986 F.3d 1216
    , 1221 (9th Cir. 2021);
    accord Boer-Sedano v. Gonzales, 
    418 F.3d 1082
    , 1088 (9th
    Cir. 2005). In my view, no true inconsistency exists.
    Whether facts meet a legal standard presents a mixed
    question of law and fact. See U.S. Bank Nat’l Ass’n ex rel.
    CWCapital Asset Mgmt. LLC v. Village at Lakeridge, LLC,
    1
    Accord Villegas Sanchez v. Garland, 
    990 F.3d 1173
    , 1179 (9th Cir.
    2021); Duran-Rodriguez v. Barr, 
    918 F.3d 1025
    , 1028–29 (9th Cir.
    2019); Wakkary v. Holder, 
    558 F.3d 1049
    , 1060 (9th Cir. 2009);
    Karapetyan v. Mukasey, 
    543 F.3d 1118
    , 1124–25 (9th Cir. 2008),
    superseded by statute on other grounds as stated in Owino v. Holder,
    
    575 F.3d 956
    , 958 (9th Cir.2009) (per curiam); Gu v. Gonzales, 
    454 F.3d 1014
    , 1018–19 (9th Cir. 2006); Mansour v. Ashcroft, 
    390 F.3d 667
    , 672
    (9th Cir. 2004); Mihalev v. Ashcroft, 
    388 F.3d 722
    , 726, 730 (9th Cir.
    2004); Singh, 134 F.3d at 967–69; Prasad v. I.N.S., 
    47 F.3d 336
    , 339–40
    (9th Cir. 1995).
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    138 S. Ct. 960
    , 966 (2018) (holding that “whether the
    historical facts found satisfy the legal test” presents a “mixed
    question of law and fact” (internal quotation marks
    omitted)). “Mixed questions are not all alike.” 
    Id. at 967
    .
    Which standard we apply “all depends—on whether
    answering [the mixed question] entails primarily legal or
    factual work.” 
    Id.
     If answering the mixed question is
    primarily a legal exercise, then we review de novo. See
    Cordoba v. Holder, 
    726 F.3d 1106
    , 1113 (9th Cir. 2013)
    (“[W]e review de novo both purely legal questions and
    mixed questions of law and fact requiring us to exercise
    judgment about legal principles.” (quoting Mendoza-Pablo
    v. Holder, 
    667 F.3d 1308
    , 1312 (9th Cir. 2012))). But if
    answering the mixed question is primarily factual, then we
    review with deference to the fact-finder. See also Cha Liang
    v. Att’y Gen., 
    15 F.4th 623
    , 626–30 (3rd Cir. 2021) (Jordan,
    J., concurring) (opining that past persecution is a mixed
    question of law and fact).
    Usually, determining whether an applicant’s harm
    crosses the persecution threshold involves very little legal
    work. See, e.g., Singh v. I.N.S., 
    134 F.3d 962
    , 967 (9th Cir.
    1998) (“This inquiry is heavily fact-dependent . . . .”);
    Cordon-Garcia v. I.N.S., 
    204 F.3d 985
    , 991 (9th Cir. 2000)
    (“The determination that actions rise to the level of
    persecution is very fact-dependent . . . .”).         In those
    circumstances, our task is to measure the severity of the
    alleged harms that the applicant has suffered, and then,
    “looking at the cumulative effect of all the incidents[,] . . .
    compar[e] the facts of [the p]etitioner’s case with those of
    similar cases.” Singh, 
    134 F.3d at
    967–68. In other words,
    we “take[] a raft of case-specific historical facts, consider[]
    them as a whole, balance[] them one against another—all to
    make a determination” as to whether the facts in our case
    compare favorably to the facts in other cases. Village at
    FON V. GARLAND                         19
    Lakeridge, LLC, 
    138 S. Ct. at 968
     (footnote omitted). “That
    is about as factual sounding as any mixed question gets.” 
    Id.
    For those reasons, generally we “review for substantial
    evidence the BIA’s particular determination that a
    petitioner’s past harm does not amount to past persecution.”
    Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1060 (internal quotation marks omitted).
    In rare cases, though, answering the mixed question
    entails very little factual work. For example, in Kaur, 986
    F.3d at 1219, a group of men attempted to gang-rape the
    petitioner. The petitioner sought asylum, but the BIA
    rejected her claim, concluding that “the attempted gang rape
    could not rise to the level of persecution unless [the
    petitioner] produced evidence of treatment for psychological
    harm or further specific testimony regarding ongoing issues
    stemming from the attack.” Id. at 1221, 1222 (internal
    quotation marks omitted). On de novo review, we rejected
    the agency’s evidentiary rule. Id. at 1222. But, unlike in
    other persecution cases, we did not compare the factual
    severity of the attempted rape of petitioner with similar facts
    in other cases. Instead, we analogized the nature of
    attempted rape to the “highly offensive” nature of rape itself.
    See id. at 1224 (“Attempted rape, like rape itself, carries the
    hallmarks of persecutory conduct.”). And we concluded that
    the BIA erred as a matter of law “by diminishing this serious
    sexual violence and insisting that [the petitioner] produce
    evidence of additional or ongoing harms.” Id. at 1227.
    Similarly, in Boer-Sedano, our analysis centered on the
    legal nature of sexual assault. 
    418 F.3d at 1088
     (“We have
    held that sexual assault, including forced oral sex, may
    constitute persecution. Therefore, there can be no doubt that
    the nine sex acts that [the petitioner] was forced to perform
    rise to the level of persecution.” (internal citation omitted)).
    Boer-Sedano cited Hernandez-Montiel v. I.N.S., 
    225 F.3d 20
                        FON V. GARLAND
    1084 (9th Cir. 2000), overruled on other grounds by Thomas
    v. Gonzales, 
    409 F.3d 1177
     (9th Cir. 2005), vacated, 
    547 U.S. 183
     (2006), for the proposition that de novo review was
    appropriate. Hernandez-Montiel held that the BIA had erred
    as a matter of law by ruling that sexual assault by police
    officers did not count as persecution. 
    Id.
     at 1097–98.
    Hernandez-Montiel, in turn, cited Pitcherskaia v. I.N.S., 
    118 F.3d 641
    , 646 (9th Cir. 1997), which reviewed de novo the
    meaning of the statutory term “persecution” and held that an
    intent to punish the petitioner is not a necessary element.
    Pitcherskaia cited Fisher v. I.N.S., 
    79 F.3d 955
    , 961 (9th Cir.
    1996) (en banc), which reviewed the BIA’s legal
    interpretations of the immigration statutes de novo but
    reviewed for substantial evidence the BIA’s determination
    that the petitioner failed to establish that she suffered past
    persecution. In other words, if one follows the entire trail of
    citations, the originating precedent, Fisher, reviewed for
    substantial evidence the BIA’s ruling that the petitioner had
    failed to establish past persecution. Thus, the provenance of
    Boer-Sedano’s method of analysis is questionable.
    Regardless of that transformation, though, Boer-Sedano,
    like Kaur, illustrates the unusual circumstance in which the
    focal point of the analysis of a mixed question was not the
    factual nature of the specific harm that the petitioner had
    suffered, but rather the legal significance of that kind of
    harm. In Kaur, we also analyzed the legal nature of what
    additional evidence the BIA could demand which, similarly,
    is not a factual issue. Because those analyses pertained to
    “developing auxiliary legal principles of use in other cases,”
    Village at Lakeridge, LLC, 
    138 S. Ct. at 967
    , we reviewed
    de novo the mixed question whether the general category of
    harm qualifies to meet the persecution threshold.
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    The pertinent issue in this case is primarily factual, not
    legal. No one disputes that the general forms of harm that
    Petitioner experienced—a stabbing, the ransacking of a
    home, and credible death threats—can amount to
    persecution. Instead, the parties dispute whether the
    particular events that Petitioner experienced were severe
    enough, factually, to rise to the level of past persecution. We
    review that determination for substantial evidence. Sharma,
    9 F.4th at 1061.
    In sum, our circuit’s law is consistent. Moreover, our
    precedent is, wisely, more nuanced than that of the circuits
    that have chosen substantial-evidence review in all cases or
    de novo review in all cases. That said, I share the view
    expressed in Judge Collins’s concurrence that Supreme
    Court guidance on this important, recurring topic, on which
    the circuits have taken inconsistent positions, would be
    welcome.
    COLLINS, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    I concur in the panel opinion, which correctly holds that
    “the record compels the conclusion that Petitioner suffered
    past persecution.” See Opin. at 13. I am unaware of any
    case in which we or any other circuit court has held that a
    stabbing—much less one with a 2–3-inch scar that required
    stitches and a hospital stay—does not entail a level of
    physical abuse sufficient to qualify as “persecution.” 1
    1
    The dissent ignores the deferential standard of review that applies
    to the agency’s factual findings when it downplays the severity of
    Petitioner’s injury based on the dissent’s own assessment of the record
    evidence concerning the nature of that injury. In his ruling, the
    22                        FON V. GARLAND
    Indeed, as the opinion notes, we have held that comparable
    violence constitutes persecution. See Hoque v. Ashcroft, 
    367 F.3d 1190
    , 1193, 1198 (9th Cir. 2004) (petitioner who was
    abducted, beaten with sticks, and stabbed established past
    persecution); see also Kaur v. Wilkinson, 
    986 F.3d 1216
    ,
    1222 (9th Cir. 2021) (noting that we have generally
    “concluded that physical violence is persecution”) (citations
    and internal quotation marks omitted); see also Li v. Holder,
    
    559 F.3d 1096
    , 1107 (9th Cir. 2009) (“It is well established
    that physical violence is persecution.”); Chand v. INS, 
    222 F.3d 1066
    , 1073 (9th Cir. 2000) (“Physical harm has
    consistently been treated as persecution.”). Accordingly,
    even if the question whether Petitioner’s harms rose to the
    level of persecution is reviewed under the deferential
    standard of substantial-evidence review set forth in
    § 242(b)(4)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act
    (“INA”), see 
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    (b)(4)(B), the petition here
    must be granted. I therefore agree with the opinion’s
    conclusion that we need not decide whether that is in fact the
    correct standard of review.
    I write separately only to respond to Judge Graber’s
    concurrence, which argues that substantial evidence is the
    Immigration Judge (“IJ”) credited Petitioner’s testimony and found that
    he “was stabbed with a knife on his left midsection” (emphasis added).
    The IJ made that finding after personally examining the scar in court and
    explaining that it “appeared to be a two-and-a-half to three-inch scar on
    the left side of his midsection.” The dissent suggests that the better
    reading of the record is that Petitioner was only “cut” and not stabbed,
    see Dissent at 34, but we lack the authority to set aside the IJ’s finding
    that Petitioner was stabbed. See 
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    (b)(4)(B) (“[T]he
    administrative findings of fact are conclusive unless any reasonable
    adjudicator would be compelled to conclude to the contrary.”).
    Moreover, given the size of the scar, and the need for stitches and a
    hospital stay, the dissent’s characterization of the resulting wound as a
    “minor physical injury” is plainly incorrect. See Dissent at 33.
    FON V. GARLAND                           23
    correct standard of review for assessing whether a
    petitioner’s abuse rises to the level of past persecution,
    except in “rare cases” in “which the focal point of the
    analysis of a mixed question was not the factual nature of the
    specific harm that the petitioner had suffered, but rather the
    legal significance of that kind of harm.” See J. Graber
    Concurrence at 19–20. Judge Graber makes a number of
    good points in favor of that position, but I think that the
    question is actually quite a bit more complicated than her
    concurrence suggests. At some point, it will fall to the en
    banc court, or perhaps the Supreme Court, to straighten out
    this area of the law.
    As an initial matter, our caselaw on this specific issue is
    internally inconsistent. In Kaur, we stated that “[o]nly the
    BIA’s findings of fact are reviewed for substantial evidence”
    and that, consequently, “[w]hether particular acts constitute
    persecution for asylum purposes is a legal question reviewed
    de novo.” 986 F.3d at 1221 (simplified). We made the same
    observation in Boer-Sedano v. Gonzales, 
    418 F.3d 1082
     (9th
    Cir. 2005), even using italics to underscore the point:
    “Whether particular acts constitute persecution for asylum
    purposes is a legal question, which we review de novo.” 
    Id. at 1088
    . In support of that view, Boer-Sedano relied on
    Hernandez-Montiel v. INS, 
    225 F.3d 1084
     (9th Cir. 2000),
    where we stated that de novo review applies to “the legal
    question of the meaning of persecution.” 
    Id. at 1097
    (citation omitted). 2 By contrast, in a different line of
    decisions, we have endorsed the exact opposite view that,
    even if the underlying facts are undisputed, the question
    2
    Hernandez-Montiel was overruled on other grounds in Thomas v.
    Gonzales, 
    409 F.3d 1177
     (9th Cir. 2005) (en banc), and Thomas was in
    turn vacated and remanded on other grounds, see Gonzales v. Thomas,
    
    547 U.S. 183
     (2006).
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    whether the petitioner’s harms “rise to the level of past
    persecution” is reviewed only for substantial evidence. See
    Villegas Sanchez v. Garland, 
    990 F.3d 1173
    , 1179 (9th Cir.
    2021) (citing Prasad v. INS, 
    47 F.3d 336
    , 339 (9th Cir.
    1995)); see also, e.g., Sharma v. Garland, 
    9 F.4th 1052
    , 1060
    (9th Cir. 2021) (citing Villegas Sanchez and Prasad).
    Judge Graber argues that these conflicting lines of cases
    can be reconciled by viewing them as appropriately applying
    different standards of review to this “mixed question of law
    and fact.” See J. Graber Concurrence at 17–20. Relying on
    the standards that the Supreme Court has set forth for
    reviewing the findings of lower courts, see U.S. Bank N.A.
    ex rel. CWCapital Asset Management LLC v. Village of
    Lakeridge, LLC, 
    138 S. Ct. 960
     (2018), Judge Graber argues
    that if the question whether a petitioner’s past mistreatment
    rises to the level of “persecution” is one that “involves very
    little legal work,” then it should be reviewed only for
    substantial evidence, but if it “entails very little factual
    work,” then it should be reviewed de novo. See J. Graber
    Concurrence at 18–19. There is some force to this position,
    but it overlooks several significant complicating
    considerations.
    First, Judge Graber’s proposed solution implicates a
    further intra-circuit split. We have said many times that
    “[w]e review de novo the BIA’s determinations on questions
    of law and mixed questions of law and fact.” Conde
    Quevedo v. Barr, 
    947 F.3d 1238
    , 1241 (9th Cir. 2020)
    (emphasis added); see also Medina-Rodriguez v. Barr, 
    979 F.3d 738
    , 744 (9th Cir. 2020) (same); Cordoba v. Barr, 
    962 F.3d 479
    , 481–82 (9th Cir. 2020) (“We review the agency’s
    factual findings for substantial evidence, but review ‘de novo
    both purely legal questions and mixed questions of law and
    fact requiring us to exercise judgment about legal
    FON V. GARLAND                        25
    principles.’”) (citation omitted); Cordoba v. Holder, 
    726 F.3d 1106
    , 1113 (9th Cir. 2013) (“We review the BIA’s
    purely factual determinations for substantial evidence.
    However, we review de novo both purely legal questions and
    mixed questions of law and fact requiring us to exercise
    judgment about legal principles.”) (citation omitted);
    Khunaverdiants v. Mukasey, 
    548 F.3d 760
    , 765–66 (9th Cir.
    2008) (after identifying issue as a “mixed question of law
    and fact,” court held that “[w]e review the agency’s
    application of legal standards de novo”).
    But, once again, we have also said the exact opposite in
    a different set of cases. See Haile v. Holder, 
    658 F.3d 1122
    ,
    1125 (9th Cir. 2011) (“Questions of law are reviewed de
    novo. We review factual findings and determinations of
    mixed questions of law and fact for substantial evidence.”)
    (citations omitted); Zumel v. Lynch, 
    803 F.3d 463
    , 471 (9th
    Cir. 2015) (“‘We review agency factual findings and
    determinations of mixed questions of law and fact for
    substantial evidence,’ and legal questions de novo.”)
    (citation omitted); Khan v. Holder, 
    584 F.3d 773
    , 776 (9th
    Cir. 2009) (“We review agency factual findings and
    determinations of mixed questions of law and fact for
    substantial evidence.”). This additional intra-circuit conflict
    only underscores the need for en banc review, in an
    appropriate case, to restore coherence to our caselaw in this
    area.
    Judge Graber apparently believes that U.S. Bank already
    resolves these intra-circuit conflicts, but that assumes that
    U.S. Bank’s standards for reviewing judicial findings are
    directly applicable to this administrative context. The
    Supreme Court itself has not yet taken that step, however.
    See Guerrero-Lasprilla v. Barr, 
    140 S. Ct. 1062
     (2020)
    (holding that “the application of law to undisputed facts”
    26                     FON V. GARLAND
    qualifies as a “question of law” that courts may review under
    INA § 242(a)(2)(D), but expressly declining to address
    whether U.S. Bank applies to such a “mixed question of law
    and fact,” noting that the cases before it “present no such
    question involving the standard of review”) (citation
    omitted).
    More importantly, Judge Graber ignores the gloss that
    the Supreme Court itself put on U.S. Bank in its subsequent
    decision in Google LLC v. Oracle Am., Inc., 
    141 S. Ct. 1183
    (2021). Addressing the standards for reviewing a mixed
    question of law and fact, the Google Court “explained that a
    reviewing court should try to break such a question into its
    separate factual and legal parts, reviewing each according to
    the appropriate legal standard. But when a question can be
    reduced no further, we have added that ‘the standard of
    review for a mixed question all depends—on whether
    answering it entails primarily legal or factual work.’” 
    Id. at 1199
     (quoting U.S. Bank, 
    138 S. Ct. at 967
    ) (emphasis
    added). The U.S. Bank rule that Judge Graber invokes thus
    applies only if the predicate question cannot first be broken
    down into “separate factual and legal parts.” 
    Id.
     As two
    judges of the Third Circuit have argued, this aspect of
    Google supports the view that the standard of review here is
    de novo, contrary to the view reached by Judge Graber’s
    concurrence. See Liang v. Attorney General, 
    15 F.4th 623
    ,
    626–27 (3d Cir. 2021) (Jordan, J., joined by Ambro, J.,
    concurring); see also 
    id. at 629
     (criticizing another Third
    Circuit case that appeared to endorse a position similar to the
    one Judge Graber adopts). They concluded that, once the
    factual and legal components are separated as Google
    requires, “the question of whether those events meet the
    legal definition of persecution is reviewed de novo because
    it is plainly an issue of law.’’ 
    Id. at 627
     (simplified); see also
    
    id.
     (concluding that Google requires de novo review
    FON V. GARLAND                        27
    because, “when it comes to the determination of past
    persecution, the factual and legal parts are separate and
    distinct”).
    Second, Judge Graber’s proposed resolution of these
    intra-circuit conflicts does not fit well with the terms of the
    INA. In setting forth the standard of review we are to apply
    in deciding petitions for review in immigration cases,
    § 242(b)(4)(B) of the INA states only that “the
    administrative findings of fact are conclusive unless any
    reasonable adjudicator would be compelled to conclude to
    the contrary.” 
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    (b)(4)(B) (emphasis added).
    It does not say that any other determinations are subject to
    this highly deferential standard of review. “Congress is
    presumed to know the law,” see Miranda B. v. Kitzhaber,
    
    328 F.3d 1181
    , 1189 (9th Cir. 2003), which has long
    distinguished between pure questions of law, mixed
    questions of law and fact, and factual findings, see Pullman-
    Standard v. Swint, 
    456 U.S. 273
    , 288–90 & n.19 (1982). But
    Congress chose only to subject “findings of fact” to this
    deferential standard of review.
    Third, resolution of these intra-circuit conflicts may also
    require considering how “traditional administrative law
    principles” bear on the question. Garland v. Ming Dai, 
    141 S. Ct. 1669
    , 1679 (2021) (stating that, in addition to the
    specific rules set forth in the INA, “reviewing courts remain
    bound by traditional administrative law principles”). For
    example, failing properly to distinguish between the BIA’s
    legal holdings and its factual conclusions obscures the
    question of what role, if any, principles of Chevron
    deference should play in this area. See INS v. Aguirre-
    Aguirre, 
    526 U.S. 415
    , 425 (1999) (stating that “the BIA
    should be accorded Chevron deference as it gives ambiguous
    statutory terms ‘concrete meaning through a process of case-
    28                    FON V. GARLAND
    by-case adjudication’”) (citation omitted). Moreover, some
    of our cases have assumed that the traditional “substantial
    evidence” principles of administrative review applied in INS
    v. Elias-Zacarias, 
    502 U.S. 478
     (1992), require that we
    review “mixed questions of law and fact” only “for
    substantial evidence.” See, e.g., Khan, 
    584 F.3d at 776
    . That
    may or may not be correct, but it also raises the possibility
    that perhaps we should apply a different form of “substantial
    evidence” review from the specific one that the INA
    expressly establishes for “findings of fact.” Cf. Ahearn v.
    Saul, 
    988 F.3d 1111
    , 1115 (9th Cir. 2021) (holding that the
    “substantial evidence” review applicable in social security
    cases is distinct from the “compelled to conclude” standard
    of INA § 242(b)(4)(B)); but cf. Elias-Zacarias, 
    502 U.S. at
    481 & n.1 (equating the Court’s “compelled” standard—
    which had not yet been added to the INA—to traditional
    “substantial evidence” review generally).
    Fourth, treating the question here—i.e., whether certain
    undisputed harms rise to the level of past persecution—as a
    factual finding subject to § 242(b)(4)(B)’s highly deferential
    standard of review seems hard to square with the agency’s
    own view of the matter. In reviewing a decision of an IJ, the
    Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”) operates under an
    analogous distinction between deferential review of factual
    findings and de novo review of legal conclusions. The
    applicable regulations state that “[t]he Board will not engage
    in de novo review of findings of fact determined by an
    immigration judge. Facts determined by the immigration
    judge, including findings as to the credibility of testimony,
    shall be reviewed only to determine whether the findings of
    the immigration judge are clearly erroneous.” 
    8 C.F.R. § 1003.1
    (d)(3)(i). By contrast, the “Board may review
    questions of law, discretion, and judgment and all other
    issues in appeals from decisions of immigration judges de
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    novo.” 
    Id.
     § 1003.1(d)(3)(ii). Notably, in applying these
    rules, the BIA has squarely held that “[t]he clearly erroneous
    standard therefore does not apply to the application of legal
    standards, such as whether the facts established by an alien
    amount to past persecution or a well-founded fear of
    persecution.” In re A–S–B–, 
    24 I. & N. Dec. 493
    , 496–97
    (BIA 2008) (simplified) (emphasis added), overruled in part
    on other grounds by In re Z–Z–O–, 
    26 I. & N. Dec. 586
    , 589–
    91 (BIA 2015).
    As the Tenth Circuit has aptly noted, “[i]t is certainly
    odd, to say the least, for this court to review for substantial
    evidence a determination the BIA itself has concluded is
    legal in nature,” and that “is especially true when the BIA’s
    governing regulations forbid it from engaging in
    factfinding.” Xue v. Lynch, 
    846 F.3d 1099
    , 1105 (10th Cir.
    2017) (declining to decide the issue, because it had not
    properly been raised in the petition for review); see also
    Liang, 15 F.4th at 627 (Jordan, J., joined by Ambro, J.,
    concurring) (noting that the BIA’s treatment of the issue as
    a question of law supports applying de novo review in the
    court of appeals). Treating the question here as a “factual
    finding[]” subject to § 242(b)(4)(B) would effectively
    require us to say that what is concededly a question of law
    in the BIA somehow transmogrifies into a question of fact
    when the case leaves the BIA and comes before our court.
    That does not make much sense. The dissonance is all the
    more striking given that the courts of appeals are sometimes
    called upon to uphold and enforce the BIA’s treatment of
    such questions as questions of law. See, e.g., Maldonado v.
    Barr, 776 F. App’x 29, 30 (2d Cir. 2019) (holding that BIA
    properly applied de novo review in reversing IJ’s conclusion
    that alien’s mistreatment “rose to the level of persecution”).
    30                    FON V. GARLAND
    On top of all these considerations, there is a significant
    circuit split on this issue, as Judge Graber acknowledges in
    her concurrence. See J. Graber Concurrence at 16; see also
    Xue, 846 F.3d at 1105 n.11 (“The circuits are split as to the
    standard of review applicable to the question whether an
    undisputed set of facts constitute persecution.”).
    *       *       *
    As the foregoing discussion makes clear, our caselaw on
    this subject is a bit of a mess. It is not my purpose in this
    concurrence to take a position as to how these issues should
    ultimately be resolved. My point is that the level of internal
    inconsistency and intellectual confusion in our caselaw has
    become so great that only the en banc court can straighten it
    out (unless the Supreme Court decides to address the
    existing circuit split). Accordingly, in my view, the en banc
    court should take up these issues in an appropriate case in
    which the standard of review would make a difference. But
    given that the Petitioner here prevails even if we apply a
    more deferential standard of review to the agency’s decision,
    this is not that case.
    Subject to these observations, I concur in the panel
    opinion in this case.
    CHOE-GROVES, Judge, concurring in part and dissenting
    in part:
    I concur with the majority in denying Petitioner’s request
    for relief under the Convention Against Torture (“CAT”).
    Because substantial evidence supports the Board of
    Immigration Appeals’ (“BIA”) denial of Petitioner’s
    applications for asylum and withholding of removal, I
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    respectfully dissent from the remainder of the majority’s
    opinion and decision to grant the petition in part and remand
    to the BIA.
    To succeed on a claim for asylum, Petitioner must
    demonstrate that he is unable or unwilling to return to his
    home country because of past persecution or a well-founded
    fear of future persecution. Garcia v. Wilkinson, 
    988 F.3d 1136
    , 1142–43 (9th Cir. 2021). Petitioner must also
    demonstrate a nexus between the persecution and a
    statutorily protected ground: race, religion, nationality,
    membership in a particular group, or political opinion. 
    Id. at 1143
    . The majority concludes that the record demonstrates
    that Petitioner suffered past persecution and that the BIA’s
    analysis of whether a nexus exists between the alleged
    persecution and a protected ground was inadequate and
    flawed. I disagree that the record compels a conclusion that
    the harms alleged by Petitioner amount to persecution.
    The majority disagrees whether this case should be
    reviewed de novo or under the substantial evidence standard,
    but both Judges Graber and Collins acknowledge that the
    caselaw on this issue does not provide a clear answer. See
    J. Graber Concurrence at 17; J. Collins Concurrence at 22–
    23. We review questions of law de novo and questions of
    fact for substantial evidence. Bhattarai v. Lynch, 
    835 F.3d 1037
    , 1042 (9th Cir. 2016). Most of our prior cases
    reviewing the BIA’s decisions to grant or deny asylum fall
    into the latter of these categories. See, e.g., Sharma v.
    Garland, 
    9 F.4th 1052
    , 1060 (9th Cir. 2021); Chand v. I.N.S.,
    
    222 F.3d 1066
    , 1073 (9th Cir. 2000); Prasad v. I.N.S., 
    47 F.3d 336
    , 338–39 (9th Cir. 1995). I view the question before
    us as straightforward: do the harms suffered by Petitioner
    amount to past persecution? Because this is predominantly,
    if not fully, a question of fact, the BIA’s asylum decision
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    should be reviewed for substantial evidence and affirmed
    unless the evidence compels the conclusion that the decision
    was incorrect. Gu v. Gonzales, 
    454 F.3d 1014
    , 1018 (9th
    Cir. 2006). This standard is highly deferential to the BIA.
    Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1060.
    As the majority correctly notes, persecution is an
    “extreme concept” and not every circumstance that causes
    an asylum seeker pain or loss of liberty rises to the level of
    persecution. Gu, 
    454 F.3d at 1019
    ; Mihalev v. Ashcroft, 
    388 F.3d 722
    , 728–29 (9th Cir. 2004). We consider Petitioner’s
    allegations as a whole to determine whether the incidents
    cumulatively rise to the level of persecution. Sharma, 9
    F.4th at 1061.
    Petitioner suffered physical injury when he was
    assaulted by four members of the Cameroonian military
    while treating a separatist fighter at the hospital where he
    worked. He testified that he was punched several times and
    cut by a knife under his left rib, resulting in a two-and-a-half-
    inch scar. Petitioner was treated for his injuries immediately
    following the incident. During the assault, one of the
    soldiers threatened Petitioner that he would be killed if he
    continued to treat separatist fighters. A few weeks later, he
    learned from a neighbor that soldiers had visited and
    ransacked his home.
    In analyzing whether Petitioner’s allegations rise to the
    level of past persecution, the majority compares the facts of
    this case to those in our recent decision in Aden v. Wilkinson,
    
    989 F.3d 1073
     (9th Cir. 2021). Aden was a citizen of
    Somalia who lived in a town controlled by Al-Shabaab, a
    militant terrorist organization affiliated with Al-Qaeda. 
    Id. at 1077
    . He worked in a theater owned by his brother that
    screened American and Hindi films. 
    Id.
     On two occasions,
    members of Al-Shabaab visited the theater and demanded
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    that Aden’s brother stop showing the films, which Al-
    Shabaab deemed “Satanic.” 
    Id.
     Aden’s brother did not
    comply with the demand and Al-Shabaab members later
    raided the theater. 
    Id.
     During the raid, Aden, his brother,
    and others present at the theater were beaten with sticks and
    the butt of a rifle and the equipment used to screen films was
    taken. 
    Id.
     Aden was struck in the head, resulting in profuse
    bleeding. 
    Id.
     Two weeks after the raid, while hiding with a
    family member, Aden’s brother was contacted by members
    of Al-Shabaab who threatened to kill both brothers if they
    reopened the theater. 
    Id.
     at 1077–78. Aden fled Somalia to
    South Africa and eventually arrived in the United States. 
    Id. at 1078
    .
    In reviewing the denial of Aden’s applications for
    asylum and withholding of removal, a three-judge panel of
    this Court concluded that the single physical beating and
    subsequent death threat amounted to persecution because,
    when viewed in the light of the societal and political turmoil
    of Somalia, Al-Shabaab’s continued interest in Aden left
    him with no choice other than to abandon his political and
    religious beliefs or flee. 
    Id.
     at 1083–84.
    Unlike Aden, Fon experienced a single threat
    accompanied by the minor physical injury of a stab wound.
    The threat did not coerce Fon into abandoning his lawful
    beliefs, and Fon’s only subsequent interaction with the
    Cameroonian military was one instance of members of the
    military visiting his home when he was not present. Because
    of these distinctions, a reasonable factfinder would not be
    compelled to reach the same conclusion as in Aden.
    In most cases, an isolated incident resulting in a physical
    injury does not rise to the level of persecution. See Gu, 
    454 F.3d at
    1020–21 (finding no past persecution when petitioner
    was detained and beaten once); Prasad, 
    47 F.3d at
    339–40
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    (upholding the BIA’s determination that the petitioner
    suffered no past persecution from a single incident of being
    detained, interrogated, hit in his stomach, and kicked from
    behind). The circumstances in which we have found past
    persecution based on only a single incident of violence have
    generally involved severe injuries or other extreme acts of
    intimidation. See Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1061 (“[W]hen we have
    granted petitions for review because the record compelled a
    finding of past persecution, the petitioner often experienced
    serious physical violence, among other indicators of
    persecution.”); see also Hoque v. Ashcroft, 
    367 F.3d 1190
    ,
    1193, 1198 (9th Cir. 2004) (finding past persecution when
    the petitioner had been kidnapped, taken to a camp, beaten
    with an iron rod and stick, stabbed, and abandoned
    unconscious on a street and required eight days of
    hospitalization); Chanchavac v. I.N.S., 
    207 F.3d 584
    , 589–
    91 (9th Cir. 2000) (finding that petitioner suffered past
    persecution when he was severely beaten once and violent
    acts and murder had been committed against his family and
    neighbors).
    The majority sees no meaningful distinction between the
    harm suffered by Petitioner and the harm suffered by Aden
    and notes that it is possible that Petitioner’s injuries were
    more severe because they required medical treatment. Both
    men suffered a beating. Aden was struck by the butt of a
    gun, which caused him to bleed profusely but he did not
    receive medical treatment. Aden, 989 F.3d at 1077. The
    specific type of injury suffered by Petitioner is not clear from
    the record.       Petitioner testified during his removal
    proceeding that the soldiers “cut me on my left side.” He
    also referred to the injury as a cut in his declaration
    supporting his asylum application. Petitioner later described
    the injury as a stabbing in his appeal to the BIA and in his
    brief to the Court. Petitioner’s brief in this proceeding does
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    not allege that his injury was life-threatening or required
    medical treatment beyond stitches and a single day of rest.
    The record does not compel a conclusion that Petitioner’s
    injuries were more severe than those suffered by Aden.
    Substantial evidence also supports the BIA’s
    determination that the threat made against Petitioner by a
    Cameroonian soldier during the assault did not raise the
    injury to the level of persecution. The BIA construed
    Petitioner’s testimony as characterizing the threat as a joke.
    The record suggests that Petitioner took the threat seriously
    enough to flee his home and country. Regardless of whether
    the threat was intended as a joke, the threat was not of the
    severity that we have previously found amounts to
    persecution. Death threats constitute past persecution only
    when “the threats are so menacing as to cause significant
    actual suffering or harm.” Lim v. I.N.S., 
    224 F.3d 929
    , 936
    (9th Cir. 2000) (internal quotation omitted).
    The Court in Aden found significant that the death threats
    made against Aden eliminated all choices other than to
    forsake his political and religious beliefs or flee. Aden, 989
    F.3d at 1084. The record here does not suggest that the
    Cameroonian soldiers attempted to coerce Petitioner to
    abandon his lawful political or religious beliefs. In fact,
    Petitioner conceded during his removal proceeding that he
    does not consider himself to be an Anglophone
    Cameroonian.1 The threats related to Petitioner providing
    medical aid to separatist fighters. In his declaration
    supporting his asylum application, Petitioner claimed that he
    was trained and sworn to offer healthcare services
    1
    Petitioner’s concession during the removal proceeding is
    inconsistent with his brief, in which he identifies himself as an
    Anglophone.
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    indiscriminately and that healthcare providers who did not
    provide treatment to suspected separatists risked
    intimidation and harassment from members of the
    community. In this case, the single threat made to Petitioner
    conditioned on whether he continued to treat separatist
    fighters was not based on his lawfully held beliefs and was
    not so extreme as to raise the harm to the level of past
    persecution. See Duran-Rodriguez v. Barr, 
    918 F.3d 1025
    ,
    1028–29 (9th Cir. 2019) (holding that two death threats did
    not compel a determination that petitioner had suffered past
    persecution); cf. Smolniakova v. Gonzales, 
    422 F.3d 1037
    ,
    1048–49 (9th Cir. 2005) (holding that repeated death threats
    following the murder of family friends, during an assault,
    and at the petitioner’s home amounted to past persecution).
    It is undisputed that Cameroon is in a condition of
    political and societal turmoil. Even considering the events
    alleged by Petitioner in this light, a reasonable factfinder is
    not compelled to find that the circumstances collectively
    amount to past persecution.
    In the absence of past persecution, Petitioner must
    establish a well-founded fear of future persecution to
    succeed in an asylum claim. Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1065. “A
    well-founded fear of future persecution must be both
    subjectively genuine and objectively reasonable.” Rusak v.
    Holder, 
    734 F.3d 894
    , 896 (9th Cir. 2013) (internal quotation
    omitted). The risk of persecution must be more than a
    random or generalized possibility and Petitioner must make
    a particularized showing that the risk to him is greater than
    the risk to other citizens. Singh v. I.N.S., 
    134 F.3d 962
    , 967
    (9th Cir. 1998).
    In determining that Petitioner did not have an objective
    fear of future persecution if returned to Cameroon, the BIA
    offered no independent analysis but cited to the decision of
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    the immigration judge (“IJ”). Because the BIA did not
    provide a new analysis and relied upon the determination of
    the IJ, we consider the IJ’s reasoning to have informed the
    conclusion of the BIA. See Avetova-Elisseva v. I.N.S., 
    213 F.3d 1192
    , 1197 (9th Cir. 2000). The IJ concluded that while
    Petitioner had a subjective fear of persecution, he did not
    establish an objective fear of persecution. The IJ noted
    further that Petitioner testified that he was not a member of
    any organization in Cameroon and that his fears were based
    on a belief that he might be perceived as working with an
    opposition group.
    Petitioner has not demonstrated that he continues to be
    of interest to the Cameroonian military or government and
    there is no indication in the record that officials have
    searched for Petitioner after the one visit to his home.
    Petitioner testified that he had no significant dealings with
    the military or government after December 2018. Although
    Petitioner fears that he might be targeted as an Anglophone,
    he conceded that he does not consider himself to be one.
    Considering these facts, a reasonable factfinder would not be
    compelled to conclude that Petitioner has a well-founded
    fear that he would be persecuted if returned to Cameroon.
    Because Petitioner has not demonstrated that he suffered
    past persecution or has a well-founded fear of future
    persecution, he is not eligible for asylum.
    If Petitioner had suffered persecution, success on his
    asylum claim would also require a nexus between a
    statutorily protected ground and the alleged persecution.
    Garcia, 988 F.3d at 1143. The Petitioner’s race, religion,
    nationality, membership in a social group, or political
    opinion must be a central reason for the suffered or feared
    harm. Id. The BIA concluded that Petitioner did not
    establish the requisite nexus. As with its determination on
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    Petitioner’s well-founded fear of future persecution, the BIA
    relied on the determination of the IJ.
    Petitioner argues that because he is an Anglophone
    (though admitting during his removal proceeding that he
    does not consider himself to be an Anglophone) and was
    observed giving aid to an Anglophone separatist fighter, that
    a political opinion of supporting the opposition group could
    be imputed to him. An asylum applicant can establish
    persecution based on an imputed political belief, even if the
    applicant does not personally hold the belief. Garcia-Milan
    v. Holder, 
    755 F.3d 1026
    , 1031 (9th Cir. 2014). Because this
    shifts the inquiry from the views of the applicant to those of
    the persecutor, the applicant must provide evidence of the
    persecutor’s views. 
    Id.
    The IJ found that Petitioner had not established a nexus
    because he failed to offer declarations from coworkers and
    family members describing the events that occurred in
    Cameroon and did not testify as to what happened to the
    other hospital employees who assisted in treating the
    separatist fighter. The majority concludes that remand is
    required because Petitioner was not given a meaningful
    opportunity to provide necessary evidence and the IJ was
    ambiguous as to why evidence regarding Petitioner’s
    coworkers was relevant to its determination. See Bhattarai,
    835 F.3d at 1042–43; Delgado v. Holder, 
    648 F.3d 1095
    ,
    1107–08 (9th Cir. 2011) (en banc). Because Petitioner’s
    failure to establish past persecution or a well-founded fear of
    future persecution would be dispositive for his asylum claim,
    remand to the BIA on the question of nexus is unnecessary.
    Because Petitioner does not meet the less-stringent standard
    for asylum, he also fails to meet the higher standard for
    withholding of removal. Sharma, 9 F.4th at 1066.
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    I agree with the majority’s conclusion that substantial
    evidence supports the BIA’s determination that Petitioner
    failed to qualify for protection under the CAT. Because I
    believe that substantial evidence also supports the BIA’s
    determination that Petitioner did not suffer past persecution
    and does not have a well-founded fear of future persecution,
    I would deny the petition in its entirety and respectfully
    dissent.