USA V. JAMES WELLS ( 2022 )


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  •                    FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,               Nos.   20-30009
    21-30121
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    D.C. Nos.
    v.                                  3:13-cr-00008-SLG-1
    3:13-cr-00008-SLG
    JAMES MICHAEL WELLS,
    OPINION
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of Alaska
    Sharon L. Gleason, Chief District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted June 7, 2022
    Anchorage, Alaska
    Filed December 14, 2022
    Before: Andrew D. Hurwitz, Daniel A. Bress, and Holly
    A. Thomas, Circuit Judges.
    Opinion by Judge Bress
    2                    UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    SUMMARY *
    Criminal Law
    The panel affirmed James Wells’s convictions, vacated
    the district court’s restitution order, and remanded for
    further proceedings in a case in which Wells, while a Coast
    Guard employee, shot and killed two co-workers at a Coast
    Guard station.
    Wells contended that under the Fifth Amendment and
    Garrity v. New Jersey, 
    385 U.S. 493
     (1967), statements he
    made to government investigators should have been
    suppressed because they were made under threat of loss of
    employment.
    The panel’s independent review of the record
    confirmed that the investigators did not explicitly threaten
    Wells’s job security if he refused to incriminate himself,
    and Wells did not argue otherwise. Instead, Wells
    advanced a theory of implicit coercion by virtue of an
    employment manual, and a letter of caution he received
    after allegedly using a fuel card for his personal vehicle,
    which, he argued, operated in the background of his
    interviews to create “an impermissible penalty situation.”
    The panel held that in the absence of a direct threat of loss
    of employment, the appropriate framework for the court is
    to consider both the public employee’s subjective belief
    and the objective reasonableness of that belief to determine
    *
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    whether the employee’s statements were improperly
    coerced; it is only when both elements are satisfied that the
    employee is, under Garrity, entitled to suppression of his
    statements absent a grant of immunity. The panel rejected
    Wells’s argument that United States v. Saechao, 
    418 F.3d 1073
     (2005), controls and sets forth a purely objective test.
    Turning to Wells’s Garrity claim within the proper
    framework, the panel wrote that the evidence in the record
    does not suggest that Wells subjectively believed that either
    the employment manual or the letter of caution required
    him to answer the investigator’s questions or to waive his
    immunity from self-incrimination; to the contrary, the
    interview transcripts reveal Wells’s affirmative intent to
    cooperate with the investigation in an apparent effort to
    make it seem that he had nothing to hide. Having
    concluded that Wells did not establish a subjective belief
    that he was required to answer the investigators' questions
    or suffer an employment consequence, the panel did not
    need to consider whether, if Wells had held such a belief, it
    would have been objectively reasonable. Thus, Wells was
    not implicitly coerced to provide his interview statements,
    and the Fifth Amendment did not prevent the introduction
    of his statements at trial.
    In ordering Wells to pay $1,921,640 in restitution
    pursuant to the Mandatory Victims Restitution Act
    (MVRA), the district court determined that restitution
    should be paid using 80% of the monthly payments from
    his retirement and disability benefits. Wells claimed that
    under provisions of the Consumer Credit Protection Act, 
    15 U.S.C. § 1673
    , that are incorporated into the MVRA, his
    retirement and disability benefits constitute “earnings,”
    which cannot be garnished more than 25%. The district
    court concluded it had discretion under the All Writs Act to
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    order garnishment of a higher percentage of the monthly
    payments. The panel held that because the MVRA creates
    specific statutory requirements for garnishing earnings, the
    All Writs Act cannot be used to sidestep those
    requirements. The panel vacated the restitution order and
    remanded for the district court to determine whether each
    of Wells’s benefit payment streams constituted “earnings”
    under § 1673; if so, the MVRA limited garnishment of
    those funds to 25%.
    The panel addressed other issues in a concurrently filed
    memorandum disposition.
    COUNSEL
    Benjamin L. Coleman (argued), Singleton Schreiber
    McKenzie & Scott LLP, San Diego, California, for
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Daniel N. Lerman (argued), Attorney, Appellate Section;
    Lisa H. Miller, Deputy Assistant Attorney General;
    Kenneth A. Polite Jr, Assistant Attorney General, United
    States Department of Justice, Criminal Division,
    Washington, D.C.; Bryan Wilson, Attorney; Stephen L.
    Corso and Steven E. Skrocki, Assistant United States
    Attorneys; John E. Kuhn Jr., United States Attorneys;
    Office of the United States Attorney, Anchorage, Alaska;
    for Plaintiff-Appellee.
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    OPINION
    BRESS, Circuit Judge:
    On the morning of April 12, 2012, two Coast Guard
    employees were shot and killed at a Coast Guard station on
    Kodiak Island, Alaska. A jury found that their co-worker,
    James Wells, had committed the murders. In this opinion,
    we primarily address Wells’s contention that under the
    Fifth Amendment, statements he made to government
    investigators should have been suppressed because they
    were made under the threat of loss of employment. We
    hold that Wells’s Fifth Amendment self-incrimination
    challenge fails because he was not coerced to speak with
    investigators on pain of losing his job.
    In this opinion and an accompanying memorandum
    disposition, we affirm Wells’s convictions. But we vacate
    the district court’s restitution order and remand for further
    proceedings limited to that issue because the district court
    mistakenly relied on the All Writs Act in determining how
    certain benefits would be garnished.
    I
    A
    James Wells, Richard Belisle, and James Hopkins
    worked together at the United States Coast Guard
    Communication Station (COMMSTA) on Kodiak Island,
    Alaska. COMMSTA is “the 911 of the Bering,” fielding
    calls from mariners in distress and military aircraft passing
    through the airspace. After a lengthy military career, Wells
    for over twenty years worked as a civilian COMMSTA
    mechanic, maintaining the radio antennas used to
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    communicate with aircraft and vessels. Belisle was the
    “master rigger” responsible for ensuring that antenna
    equipment was properly and safely rigged. Hopkins
    supervised both men.
    At 6:48 a.m. on April 12, 2012, surveillance video
    captured Wells’s white pickup truck driving on the main
    road towards COMMSTA. Wells took this route every
    morning to get to work. On this particular day, Wells
    pulled off at the Kodiak airport, which is located on the
    same road about two miles from COMMSTA.
    Wells’s wife, Nancy, had left her car, a blue 2001
    Honda CR-V, in the airport parking lot while on a business
    trip. At 7:09 a.m., security footage showed a blue car
    approaching the COMMSTA antenna maintenance facility
    (also known as the “rigger shop”), where Hopkins and
    Belisle were already working. The government’s theory
    was that Wells had swapped his vehicle for Nancy’s at the
    airport and driven it to COMMSTA, where he then shot
    Hopkins and Belisle.
    Surveillance video showed a blue vehicle leaving the
    rigger shop at 7:14 a.m. By 7:22 a.m., Wells was seen
    driving his white truck away from the airport towards his
    residence. Altogether, this amounted to 34 minutes after
    Wells first arrived at the airport.
    At 7:30 a.m., Wells called Hopkins (now deceased) and
    left a voicemail explaining that he would be late to work
    because he had a flat tire. Wells, Belisle, and Hopkins
    usually arrived around 7:00 a.m., while other COMMSTA
    employees typically came in later.         Wells also left
    voicemails for Belisle (also deceased) and Scott Reckner, a
    supervisor whom Wells had only “very rarely” called in the
    past. After leaving these voicemails, Wells arrived at
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    COMMSTA at about 8:30 a.m., after the murders had been
    discovered. When Reckner informed Wells of the murders,
    Wells responded, “Shit. I had a flat tire.”
    COMMSTA authorities instructed all employees to
    remain at the station so that they would stay safe and be
    able to assist in the investigation. Shortly thereafter, the
    FBI and the Coast Guard Investigative Service (CGIS)
    arrived and launched an investigation. The investigators
    started by interviewing COMMSTA personnel.               We
    recount the interviews with Wells in some detail because
    they form the basis for the principal issue that we address
    in this opinion.
    Agents interviewed Wells four times in the evening of
    April 12 (the day of the murders), and twice more on the
    morning of April 13. In the first interview, which began
    around 7:21 p.m., Wells volunteered that “the only reason I
    wasn’t here this morning at 7:00 was I had [a] flat tire in
    my truck.” However, Wells admitted that he did not know
    exactly where or when his tire went flat, and that he did not
    “really look at it to see what was wrong.” He also
    answered questions about his background and duties at
    COMMSTA, the work environment, and his relationships
    with Belisle and Hopkins.
    In the second interview, which began at 8:04 p.m., the
    agents asked Wells if they could search his truck to
    “verify” his story about the flat tire, and Wells replied,
    “Knock yourself out.” The agents told Wells “[t]his is
    totally voluntary” and “you can refuse this.” Wells
    reaffirmed his consent. The agents also asked Wells if they
    could search his cell phone, and Wells again agreed.
    Before both searches, Wells signed acknowledgments of
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    his rights. The agents then searched Wells’s truck and
    found in the back a tire that had been punctured by a nail.
    Wells was interviewed twice more that evening, but the
    interviews were brief. The agents initially told Wells that
    they had follow-up questions after speaking to other
    employees, but after only three minutes (and no questions),
    they stopped the interview because Wells said that he
    needed to take medication. In the final session that
    evening, the investigators conducted a several-minute
    interview in which they suggested “having [Wells’s] hands
    wiped for gunshot residue” to “see what his reaction would
    be.” Wells agreed to the test. Wells would later testify that
    he had interpreted these interviews as “just . . . general
    information gathering” and nothing “out of the ordinary.”
    By the next morning, the agents had reviewed the
    surveillance footage of the road leading to COMMSTA.
    The footage showed Wells’s truck driving to and from the
    airport. The agents decided to interview Wells again.
    Before initiating the interview, the agents informed Wells
    of his rights under Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966), emphasizing that “you don’t have to talk to us” and
    “don’t have to answer” questions. Although Wells said he
    was “a little concerned now,” he consented to the interview
    and signed a Miranda waiver. At one point in the
    interview, Wells declined to answer questions about his
    disciplinary issues (“Nope, I’d rather not”). But he
    otherwise responded to the questioning.
    After substantial questioning about the layout,
    operations, and employees of the rigging shop, the agents
    turned to the previous day’s events. Wells reiterated that as
    he was driving to work, he noticed he had a flat tire. He
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    then turned into a parking lot by the airport to check the
    tire, after which he decided to go back home to change it.
    The agents informed Wells that the security footage
    showed a 34-minute gap between Wells’s truck driving to
    and from the airport. When asked to account for that time,
    Wells said he “d[idn’t] have a reasonable explanation for
    it.” One agent told Wells that they were “baffled,” to
    which Wells replied, “Well, so am I.” An investigator told
    Wells that “[t]hings aren’t adding up with that story,” and
    Wells simply responded, “I don’t have [a] theory at the
    moment.”
    Later that day, investigators asked to interview Wells
    again, explaining that “your stories aren’t lining up with the
    factual time lines that we have.” Wells asked, “Are you
    accusing me?” The agents said “[a]t this point, yes Jim.”
    Wells terminated the interview.
    Meanwhile, attempting to locate the blue vehicle they
    had seen in the security footage, the agents went to the
    airport, where they found Nancy’s blue CR-V. They later
    learned that the car was parked in a different spot than
    where Nancy had left it, and there was mail addressed to
    Wells in the front seat that had not previously been there.
    After a lengthy process to rule out other suspects—which
    involved obtaining a list of all vehicles registered in
    Kodiak, identifying those that potentially matched the one
    in the video, and interviewing the owners—the
    investigators came to believe that the vehicle in the video
    was, in fact, Nancy’s blue CR-V.
    The agents searched Wells’s home. While they did not
    recover the murder weapon, they did discover the same
    type of ammunition found at the crime scene. Many
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    months later, on February 15, 2013, Wells was arrested for
    the murders of Hopkins and Belisle.
    B
    On February 19, 2013, Wells was indicted on two
    counts of first-degree murder within the maritime and
    territorial jurisdiction of the United States, 
    18 U.S.C. § 1111
    ; two counts of murder of a federal employee, 
    18 U.S.C. § 1114
    ; and two counts of using a firearm in relation
    to a crime of violence, 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c). A jury returned
    guilty verdicts on all counts. Wells was sentenced to life in
    prison and ordered to pay restitution. See United States v.
    Wells, 
    879 F.3d 900
    , 907–08 (9th Cir. 2018) (Wells I).
    Wells appealed. He raised various legal challenges to
    his conviction and sentence, including that the district court
    had erred in denying his motion to suppress his interview
    statements under Miranda. We affirmed the denial of the
    motion to suppress, holding that “Wells was not in custody,
    and therefore no Miranda warnings were required.” United
    States v. Wells, 
    719 F. App’x 587
    , 590 (9th Cir. 2017). But
    concluding that the government had engaged in
    prosecutorial misconduct during trial, we reversed Wells’s
    conviction. Wells I, 879 F.3d at 907–08. We also ordered
    reassignment of the case to a new district court judge. Id.
    at 938.
    Before Wells’s second trial, he again moved to suppress
    the statements he made during the interviews. This time,
    Wells advanced a different theory, claiming that the
    investigators had violated his Fifth Amendment rights by
    coercing him to incriminate himself under threat of loss of
    employment. Wells maintained that the statements should
    be excluded under Garrity v. New Jersey, 
    385 U.S. 493
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    (1967), because investigators had not warned Wells that he
    faced no adverse employment consequences if he declined
    to answer questions. The district court denied Wells’s
    motion to suppress.       Audio recordings of Wells’s
    interviews with the investigators were played for the jury
    during trial.
    In its case in chief, the government presented the theory
    that Wells had been provoked by various workplace
    incidents leading up to the murders. Prior to the murders,
    Wells had been disciplined for misconduct. In April 2011,
    Wells received a “letter of expectations” because he
    frequently missed work without informing his supervisors.
    Wells received another cautionary letter in January 2012,
    after he allegedly used a COMMSTA fuel card for his
    personal vehicle.
    Wells’s supervisor, Scott Reckner, testified to further
    difficulties Wells experienced at COMMSTA. In late
    2011, Wells began having health problems and Reckner
    had to ask Hopkins and Belisle to “step[] up” to cover
    Wells’s responsibilities. Because of this, Reckner decided
    to send Hopkins and Belisle to an annual conference that
    Wells had attended in the past, which angered Wells. On
    the day before the murders, Wells and Belisle disagreed
    over how to install a particular antenna—an issue typically
    within Wells’s purview—and Reckner sided with Belisle,
    praising Belisle for a “great idea.”
    The government put on nearly sixty fact witnesses and
    eight experts. These included a forensic tire expert who
    analyzed Wells’s tire and determined that it was “pristine,”
    with “no evidence of the tire ever having been run low or
    flat.” The expert observed that the nail in the tire lacked
    any surface abrasions, opining that “the nail was inserted
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    manually in the tire as opposed to being picked up on the
    highway.” The jury was also shown the footage of the blue
    vehicle driving to the rigger shop immediately before and
    after the murders, as well as a video reenactment that
    investigators had staged on April 19, 2012. Multiple
    experts opined that the car shown in the security footage
    was consistent with a 2001 Honda CR-V.
    Wells testified in his own defense. He maintained that,
    as he had told the investigators, he pulled into an airport-
    area parking lot upon realizing that he had a flat tire. But in
    an attempt to explain the previously unaccounted-for 34-
    minute gap between his truck arriving at and leaving the
    airport, Wells now claimed that he had “messed his pants”
    as he exited his truck at the airport. He testified that he
    went to use a bathroom in the airport, where he “[h]ad
    another bout of diarrhea” and took time to clean himself.
    Wells claimed he then drove home from the airport to
    change the tire. He testified that he found a nail embedded
    in the tire, which he pulled out and “[t]ossed . . . over into
    the crick.” But Wells then realized that “I shouldn’t do that
    because now I won’t find the hole,” so he claimed he
    reinserted a different nail in the tire. After this, Wells
    drove to COMMSTA. Wells testified that he wore his
    soiled pants that day and the following day, in an attempt to
    explain why the investigators did not find the pants when
    they searched his house. Wells also said that he had not
    disclosed the bathroom incident during the interviews
    because “[i]t was very personal and embarrassing.”
    In its closing argument, the government emphasized
    that Wells’s new account did not align with what he told
    investigators when interviewed on April 12 and 13, 2012.
    The government also argued that in his interviews with
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    investigators, Wells was evasive, gave explanations that did
    not add up, and demonstrated an awareness of his own
    guilt.
    On October 8, 2019, the jury returned guilty verdicts on
    all counts. The district court sentenced Wells to life in
    prison and ordered him to pay $1,921,640 in restitution.
    Wells timely appealed his conviction and restitution order.
    In a separate memorandum disposition filed
    concurrently with this opinion, we reject various of Wells’s
    challenges to his convictions. Here, we address the
    remaining issues. We have jurisdiction under 
    18 U.S.C. § 3742
     and 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
    . We review the district
    court’s legal conclusions de novo and its factual
    determinations for clear error. See United States v.
    Gregory, 
    322 F.3d 1157
    , 1160–61 (9th Cir. 2003).
    II
    We first address whether Wells’s statements to
    investigators in the April 2012 interviews were obtained in
    violation of the Fifth Amendment.
    A
    The Fifth Amendment guarantees that “[n]o person . . .
    shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness
    against himself.” U.S. Const. amend. V. Although the
    right against self-incrimination is a quintessential “‘trial
    right of criminal defendants,’” its protection has been
    extended to “bar[] the government from engaging in certain
    pretrial conduct.” Chavez v. Robinson, 
    12 F.4th 978
    , 985
    (9th Cir. 2021) (quoting United States v. Verdugo-
    Urquidez, 
    494 U.S. 259
    , 264 (1990)). Relevant here, the
    Fifth Amendment prohibits the government from
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    “compelling a person to make incriminating statements
    (absent a grant of immunity) or punishing a person who
    refuses to make such statements.” 
    Id.
    Normally, if a person “desires the protection of the
    privilege, he must claim it or he will not be considered to
    have been ‘compelled’ within the meaning of the
    Amendment.” Minnesota v. Murphy, 
    465 U.S. 420
    , 427
    (1984) (quoting United States v. Monia, 
    317 U.S. 424
    , 427
    (1943)). But the Supreme Court has recognized certain
    exceptions “to the general rule that the Fifth Amendment
    privilege is not self-executing.” 
    Id. at 434
    . The most
    notable involves custodial interrogations. See Miranda v.
    Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
     (1966); see also Roberts v. United
    States, 
    445 U.S. 552
    , 560 (1980) (“Miranda’s requirement
    of specific warnings creates a limited exception to the rule
    that the privilege must be claimed . . . .”).
    A different exception is at issue here: the Supreme
    Court has held that the constitutional protection against
    self-incrimination also applies when a government
    employer coerces an employee to give up his right against
    self-incrimination on threat of loss of employment.
    Garrity, 
    385 U.S. at 496, 500
    . As we have explained,
    “public employees cannot be compelled to choose between
    providing unprotected incriminating testimony or losing
    their jobs.” Aguilera v. Baca, 
    510 F.3d 1161
    , 1171 (9th
    Cir. 2007). Such coerced testimony generally cannot be
    introduced in subsequent criminal proceedings against the
    employee. Garrity, 
    385 U.S. at 500
    .
    This exception turns not merely on whether the
    government “compelled an individual to appear and
    testify,” but on whether it “also sought to induce him to
    forgo the Fifth Amendment privilege by threatening to
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    impose economic or other sanctions ‘capable of forcing the
    self-incrimination which the Amendment forbids.’”
    Murphy, 
    465 U.S. at 434
     (quoting Lefkowitz v.
    Cunningham, 
    431 U.S. 801
    , 806 (1977)). For this reason, if
    proper immunity is provided to the witness, the government
    may require that incriminating questions be answered. See
    Chavez, 12 F.4th at 987.
    The Fifth Amendment also does not apply to
    “voluntary” statements, or in situations when “a person
    does not invoke the privilege against self-incrimination and
    any pressure to make incriminating statements does not rise
    to the level of compulsion.” Id. Indeed, we have
    confirmed that public employers retain the right “to
    appropriately question an employee about matters relating
    to the employee’s possible misconduct while on duty,” and
    that such questioning, on its own, does not trigger the Fifth
    Amendment or require application of the exclusionary rule.
    Aguilera, 
    510 F.3d at 1171
    ; see also Gardner v. Broderick,
    
    392 U.S. 273
    , 278 (1968) (“If appellant, a policeman, had
    refused to answer questions specifically, directly, and
    narrowly relating to the performance of his official duties,
    . . . the privilege against self-incrimination would not have
    been a bar to his dismissal.”). The ultimate test is
    compulsion to be a witness against oneself on pain of
    penalty: “If there is no compulsion . . . then the Self-
    Incrimination Clause is not implicated.” Chavez, 12 F.4th
    at 987; see also Cunningham, 
    431 U.S. at 806
     (“[T]he
    touchstone of the Fifth Amendment is compulsion . . . .”).
    Compulsion is most obviously present when a public
    employer directly threatens an employee with the loss of a
    job (or a comparable penalty) unless the employee gives
    answers to incriminating questions that could later be used
    against him in a criminal proceeding. These were the facts
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    in Garrity, the seminal case in which the Supreme Court
    extended the Fifth Amendment to the public employment
    context. In that case, New Jersey’s Attorney General
    investigated allegations that local police officers were
    fixing traffic tickets. 
    385 U.S. at 494
    . Before being
    questioned, each officer was cautioned that “he had the
    privilege to refuse to answer if the disclosure would tend to
    incriminate him” but that “if he refused to answer he would
    be subject to removal from office.” 
    Id.
     The officers
    answered the questions, and their admissions were used in
    subsequent criminal proceedings against them. 
    Id. at 495
    .
    The Supreme Court held that the Attorney General’s
    conduct violated the Fifth Amendment because the officers
    were “deprived of [the] ‘free choice to admit, to deny, or to
    refuse to answer,’” and, as a result, their statements were
    “infected by the coercion.” 
    Id.
     at 496–97 (quoting Lisenba
    v. California, 
    314 U.S. 219
    , 241 (1941)).             It was
    impermissible to put the officers to “[t]he choice . . .
    between self-incrimination or job forfeiture.” 
    Id. at 496
    .
    The Supreme Court cases that followed Garrity
    likewise involved direct threats of a penalty or sanction if
    public employees were to invoke their Fifth Amendment
    rights. See Uniformed Sanitation Men Ass’n v. Comm’r of
    Sanitation, 
    392 U.S. 280
    , 282 (1968) (employee was told
    that if he “refused to testify with respect to his official
    conduct or that of any other city employee on the grounds
    of self-incrimination, his employment and eligibility for
    other city employment would terminate”); Gardner, 
    392 U.S. at 274
     (employee was “told that he would be fired if
    he did not sign” a waiver of his Fifth Amendment rights).
    Wells was not subjected to direct coercion. The
    investigators never threatened Wells’s job security or
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    suggested in any way that his failure to self-incriminate
    would lead to his firing or any other form of discipline. As
    we noted in Wells’s prior appeal, the April 12 interviews
    were not “aggressive or accusatory,” and Wells was
    “interviewed[] in the same manner as all other COMMSTA
    employees.” Wells I, 719 F. App’x at 589; see also id. at
    590–91 (noting that Wells was “never physically
    restrained,” “pressured to confess to anything,” or “singled
    out or made to feel like a target of the investigation,” and
    that the April 12 interviews were “‘essentially amicable’”).
    Wells himself described his discussions with investigators
    as “just . . . general information gathering” and nothing
    “out of the ordinary.” And by April 13, Wells had received
    Miranda warnings, which explicitly informed him that any
    further cooperation had to be voluntary. Our independent
    review of the record confirms that the investigators did not
    explicitly threaten Wells’s job security if he refused to
    incriminate himself, and Wells does not argue otherwise.
    B
    Instead, Wells advances a theory of implicit coercion.
    In support of this argument, Wells points to a Coast Guard
    employment manual, 1 which provides that “[a]ll civilian
    employees are responsible for . . . [p]roviding full and
    truthful answers during any inquiry or investigation.” In a
    separate provision, the manual lists an employee’s failure
    to “give oral or written statements or testimony or
    cooperate otherwise in connection with any official inquiry,
    investigation, or proceeding” as “offenses” that could
    trigger discipline ranging from “[w]ritten reprimand to
    1
    We grant Wells’s request to take judicial notice of the manual.
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    removal.” Similar consequences could befall an employee
    who “fail[s] to provide honest and complete information to
    investigators or display[s] lack of candor in any official
    inquiry or proceeding; [or] fail[s] to provide material fact
    or pertinent information.” Wells also claims that the letter
    of caution he received after the fuel card incident required
    him to incriminate himself or risk losing his job because the
    letter stated that “any future instances of misconduct may
    result in disciplinary action being taken against you, up to
    and including removal from Federal service.”
    Wells alleges that the employment manual and the letter
    of caution, either separately or in combination, operated in
    the background of his interviews to create “an
    impermissible penalty situation.” In his view, these
    documents constituted an “objective showing” that he faced
    potential termination or other sufficiently severe adverse
    employment consequences for failing to answer
    incriminating questions. This, he asserts, “is all that is
    required” to trigger the exclusionary rule.
    We have previously recognized the possibility that
    implicit threats in the public employment context may
    produce unconstitutional coercion in violation of the Fifth
    Amendment. Our leading case in this area is Aguilera v.
    Baca, 
    510 F.3d 1161
     (9th Cir. 2007). There, a police
    department investigated a complaint of excessive force
    against its officers. 
    Id. at 1165
    . Like Wells, the deputies in
    Aguilera operated under certain employment policies that
    required truthfulness in internal investigations. 
    Id.
     The
    police department’s Manual of Policies and Procedures
    established “an affirmative duty to cooperate” during
    investigations, a violation of which could “subject a deputy
    to administrative discipline.” 
    Id.
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                  19
    During an internal investigation into police misconduct,
    the deputies refused to provide statements to an
    investigator.    
    Id. at 1166
    .       While the investigation
    continued, the deputies were reassigned to different roles
    and shifts, but no charges were brought, and the deputies
    were eventually restored to their former roles. 
    Id.
     at 1166–
    67. Later, the deputies sued under 
    42 U.S.C. § 1983
    alleging, as relevant here, that the investigation violated the
    deputies’ Fifth Amendment rights by putting them to an
    unconstitutional choice between providing statements that
    could later be used against them or temporarily losing their
    preferred job responsibilities. 
    Id. at 1171
    .
    We held that the police department did not run afoul of
    Garrity. 
    Id. at 1171
    . The investigator’s questioning of the
    deputies did not violate the Fifth Amendment because “the
    deputies were not compelled to answer the investigator’s
    questions or to waive their immunity from self-
    incrimination. Indeed, it appears that the deputies were
    never even asked to waive their immunity.” 
    Id. at 1172
    .
    We agreed that “there may have been some initial coercion
    to cooperate and answer questions.” 
    Id.
     at 1172 n.5. But
    that was not tantamount to “compelling the officers to
    waive their Fifth Amendment rights.” 
    Id.
    C
    Although the reasoning and result in Aguilera point
    against Wells, Aguilera did not articulate a full legal
    framework for determining when an employer policy or
    other background condition of employment produces Fifth
    20                     UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    Amendment coercion. 2 Other circuits have broached the
    question, however, and we find their decisions informative.
    In United States v. Smith, 
    821 F.3d 1293
     (11th Cir.
    2016), for instance, a lieutenant at a state prison was
    internally investigated in connection with an incident that
    resulted in an inmate’s death. 
    Id.
     at 1296–97. Smith
    prepared a false incident report that absolved him of
    responsibility, and he repeated the fabricated narrative to
    investigators. 
    Id.
     at 1297–99. The investigators later
    shared Smith’s statements with the FBI. 
    Id. at 1299
    .
    The Eleventh Circuit concluded that Garrity allowed
    the use of Smith’s statements at his criminal trial. The
    court explained that “[i]n the absence of a direct threat of
    termination,” a Garrity violation requires two elements: (1)
    “the officer must have in fact believed the statements to be
    compelled on threat of loss of job,” and (2) “this belief
    must have been objectively reasonable.” 
    Id.
     at 1302–03
    (quoting United States v. Vangates, 
    287 F.3d 1315
    , 1321–
    22 (11th Cir. 2002)).
    In Smith, both elements were lacking. First, the court
    concluded that Smith had “failed to present any evidence”
    2
    Wells argues that Aguilera is inapposite because in that case, the Fifth
    Amendment claim was brought by the officers in civil proceedings
    under § 1983. But Aguilera resolved the deputies’ claims on the first
    prong of the qualified immunity analysis, namely, whether there had
    been a violation of the officers’ constitutional rights. See Aguilera, 
    510 F.3d at
    1171–72. Wells also points out that in Aguilera, the officers’
    statements were not used in subsequent criminal proceedings. But we
    offered that as an alternate ground for decision, making clear that the
    officers’ claims would fail regardless for lack of coercion. 
    Id.
     at 1173–
    74.
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                  21
    demonstrating a subjective belief that he would lose his job
    if he failed to provide self-incriminating information. 
    Id. at 1303
    . On the contrary, “Smith’s motive to make the
    written statements more than likely was to deflect suspicion
    and avoid jail rather than a desire to retain his
    employment.” 
    Id.
     (alterations and quotations omitted).
    And secondly, while the prison’s regulations required
    Smith to write an incident report and cooperate with the
    investigation on pain of “progressive disciplinary
    sanctions,” the regulations did not threaten termination, and
    “the mere possibility of future discipline [was] not enough
    to trigger Garrity protection.” 
    Id. at 1302
    . In the Eleventh
    Circuit’s view, “Garrity does not stand for the proposition”
    that a statement is coerced whenever there is a “speculative
    possibility of termination” if the public employee refuses to
    answer incriminating questions. 
    Id. at 1303
     (quotations
    omitted); see also United States v. Waldon, 
    363 F.3d 1103
    ,
    1112–13 (11th Cir. 2004) (per curiam) (applying the
    subjective-objective test in affirming the denial of a motion
    to suppress because the regulations in question “reflect only
    a general expectation that police officers will cooperate and
    testify”).
    The test used by the Eleventh Circuit originated in
    United States v. Friedrick, 
    842 F.2d 382
     (D.C. Cir. 1988).
    See Vangates, 
    287 F.3d at
    1322 & n.7 (adopting the test set
    forth in Friedrick). Friedrick involved an FBI agent who
    was interviewed numerous times over the course of several
    months as part of an internal investigation. Friedrick, 
    842 F.2d at
    384–87. Before the first interviews, Friedrick was
    promised he would be immune from criminal prosecution
    based on his statements. 
    Id.
     at 385–87. On appeal, he
    argued that these guarantees implicitly extended to the later
    interviews, as well. 
    Id.
     at 393–94.
    22                 UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    The court concluded that for the Fifth Amendment to
    apply under Garrity, “Friedrick must have in fact believed
    his January statements to be compelled on threat of loss of
    job and this belief must have been objectively reasonable.”
    
    Id. at 395
    . Applying this test—and noting that Friedrick
    had expressly stated during the interview that he thought
    his statements were immune—the court concluded that
    Garrity prohibited the introduction of Friedrick’s
    statements in subsequent criminal proceedings. 
    Id.
     at 397–
    401.
    We find further support for this subjective-objective
    approach in United States v. Palmquist, 
    712 F.3d 640
     (1st
    Cir. 2013). In that case, a government employee had filed a
    fraudulent claim for disability benefits with the Veterans
    Administration. 
    Id.
     at 642–43. An agency investigator
    interviewed him concerning this claim. 
    Id. at 644
    . Before
    the interview, the investigator informed Palmquist of his
    rights, and Palmquist agreed to cooperate. 
    Id.
    Palmquist nonetheless later claimed that he had been
    implicitly coerced by the Veterans Administration
    Standards of Conduct, which provided that “[e]mployees
    will furnish information and testify freely and honestly in
    cases respecting employment and disciplinary matters,” and
    that refusal to testify “may be ground for disciplinary
    action.” 
    Id.
     at 645–46. The Standard of Conduct went on
    to clarify that employees need not provide incriminating
    testimony. 
    Id.
    The First Circuit rejected Palmquist’s argument. 
    Id. at 646
    . Although the court did not set forth an all-
    encompassing framework for Fifth Amendment claims in
    the government employment context, the court relied on
    both subjective and objective considerations in its analysis.
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                  23
    The court explained that Palmquist had no reason to believe
    that he would be terminated for refusing to self-incriminate:
    the Standard of Conduct was “not inherently coercive,” and
    “there [wa]s no indication Palmquist was aware of the
    regulation at all, let alone that he was selectively presented
    with the coercive portion of the regulation.” 
    Id.
     at 645–46.
    The court also clarified that, to the extent that
    Palmquist’s silence gave rise to “potentially unfavorable
    inferences” that could in turn lead to an adverse
    employment action, this chain of events was “too
    conditional” to constitute coercion under Garrity. 
    Id. at 645, 647
    ; see also United States v. Stein, 
    233 F.3d 6
    , 16
    (1st Cir. 2000) (distinguishing between “the threat of
    automatic loss of one[’s] livelihood and the threat of an
    inference that might lead to such a loss”).
    The reasoning in Palmquist aligned with earlier First
    Circuit case law establishing that absent an objectively
    coercive threat, “the subjective fears of [a] defendant as to
    what might happen if he refused to answer” cannot trigger
    Garrity’s exclusionary rule. United States v. Indorato, 
    628 F.2d 711
    , 716 (1st Cir. 1980). In Indorato, there was “no
    overt threat that defendant would be dismissed if he refused
    to answer the questions asked.” 
    Id. at 715
    . Instead, the
    defendant claimed “such threat was implied because the
    state police departmental rules . . . provided for the
    dismissal of any officer who refused to obey the lawful
    order of superiors.” 
    Id.
     The First Circuit rejected this
    argument because “[t]here is nothing in the record to
    suggest that the rules have been interpreted to mean that a
    state police officer who refuses on [F]ifth [A]mendment
    grounds to comply with an order to provide self-
    incriminating statements would be dismissed.” 
    Id. at 716
    .
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    D
    It is apparent that the courts that have addressed
    Garrity’s application to government employment policies
    (or similar background rules alleged to create implicit
    coercion in the public employment context) have coalesced
    around a similar framework. Under this framework, courts
    consider both the public employee’s subjective belief and
    the objective reasonableness of that belief to determine
    whether the employee’s statements were improperly
    coerced.
    We too conclude that in the absence of a direct threat of
    loss of employment, this framework is appropriate for
    assessing whether government employment policies violate
    the rule in Garrity. The core of the Fifth Amendment is the
    protection against coerced self-incriminating testimony.
    And for an employee to be coerced, he must both be
    objectively threatened with a substantial adverse
    employment consequence for refusing to incriminate
    himself and be subjectively aware of that penalty.
    Although assessment of these objective and subjective
    elements will turn on the facts of each case, it is only when
    both elements are satisfied that the employee is denied the
    “free choice to admit, to deny, or to refuse to answer”
    incriminating questions, and thus entitled to suppression of
    his statements absent a grant of immunity. See Garrity,
    
    385 U.S. at 496
     (quotation marks omitted).
    Wells resists this framework, urging us to consider only
    whether the Coast Guard policies on their face violate
    Garrity. Wells argues that our decision in United States v.
    Saechao, 
    418 F.3d 1073
     (9th Cir. 2005), controls and sets
    forth a purely objective test—one that does not consider
    whether the employee in fact believed he could lose his job
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                25
    if he refused to waive his Fifth Amendment rights. That is
    not correct.
    As a threshold matter, Saechao involved an allegedly
    coercive probation condition, not a policy of government
    employment. See 
    id. at 1075
    . It is true that in both
    contexts, courts have applied the same high-level principle
    that “a State may not impose substantial penalties because a
    witness elects to exercise his Fifth Amendment right.”
    Murphy, 
    465 U.S. at
    434 (citing Cunningham, 
    431 U.S. at 805
    ). But we have never suggested that in assessing
    allegations of implicit coercion, government employees and
    individuals on probation are identically situated. For
    example, it may be easier to infer an individual’s
    familiarity with his conditions of probation, given that his
    probation officer must instruct him as to the court’s
    specified probation conditions and must “provide him with
    a written statement clearly setting forth all such
    conditions.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 3603
    (1).         In many cases,
    moreover, the consequences for violating a probation
    condition—which can be dire—will be more apparent to an
    individual on probation than in an analogous situation in
    the employment context. Perhaps most fundamentally,
    “[p]robation, like incarceration, is a form of criminal
    sanction imposed by a court.” United States v. Knights,
    
    534 U.S. 112
    , 119 (2001) (quotation marks omitted).
    Individuals on probation “do not enjoy the absolute liberty
    to which every citizen is entitled.” 
    Id.
     This fact is indeed
    “[i]nherent in the very nature of probation.” 
    Id.
     As a
    general matter, that context likely creates different
    assumptions and expectations about probation conditions,
    as compared to conditions of employment.
    Tellingly, we did not even mention Saechao in
    Aguilera. Saechao found it significant that the probationer
    26                 UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    was required to “answer all reasonable inquiries,” 
    418 F.3d at 1078
    . In Aguilera, by contrast, we expressly recognized
    there may have been “some initial coercion to cooperate
    and answer questions,” but we held that this initial coercion
    was not equivalent to “compelling the officers to waive
    their Fifth Amendment rights” when “the deputies were
    never even asked to waive their immunity.” 
    510 F.3d at
    1172 & n.5. Given that it arose in the public employment
    context, the more applicable precedent is Aguilera.
    In any event, Saechao actually supports our conclusion
    that employees must demonstrate both a subjective belief of
    an improper penalty and the objective reasonableness of
    that belief. In Saechao, the probationer met with his intake
    officer “to review the conditions of his probation,”
    including the condition that required him to “promptly and
    truthfully answer all reasonable inquiries” under threat of
    “arrest, revocation of probation, or modification of
    conditions.” 
    418 F.3d at 1075
    . He also signed a form
    acknowledging these conditions. 
    Id.
     We specifically noted
    that the probationer “was instructed on two occasions” as to
    his probation conditions. 
    Id. at 1081
    .
    There was thus no question in Saechao as to the
    probationer’s subjective awareness of the probation
    conditions. And we did not suggest in Saechao that an
    employee’s subjective beliefs (which, we note, could be
    demonstrated through circumstantial evidence) are
    irrelevant in assessing Fifth Amendment claims under
    Garrity. We therefore reject Wells’s contention that
    Saechao requires a purely objective test when evaluating
    Garrity claims based on public employer policies.
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                  27
    E
    With the proper framework established, we now turn to
    Wells’s Garrity claim. We conclude that the district court
    did not err in admitting Wells’s statements from the April
    2012 interviews.
    The evidence in the record does not suggest that Wells
    subjectively believed that either the Coast Guard Manual or
    the letter of caution regarding the fuel card required him “to
    answer the investigator’s questions or to waive [his]
    immunity from self-incrimination.” Aguilera, 
    510 F.3d at 1172
    . Wells never expressed this belief, either during the
    interviews or when he testified in his own defense at trial.
    And there is no basis by which to infer such a subjective
    belief, either.
    To the contrary, the interview transcripts reveal Wells’s
    affirmative intent to cooperate with the investigation in an
    apparent effort to make it seem that he had nothing to hide.
    See Smith, 
    821 F.3d at 1303
     (similar). At one point, Wells
    went so far as to say that if the killer were found, he would
    consider “tak[ing] matters into [his] own hands” because it
    was “like somebody, you know, hurt one of your family
    members.” At another point, Wells offered that the
    murders may have been part of a robbery gone bad,
    emphasizing that the rigger shop contained “lots of stuff in
    there worth stealing” and that theft had happened in the
    past.
    Except at the end of the last interview, when Wells
    invoked his Miranda rights, the interviews were friendly
    and non-confrontational. As the district court noted,
    “[t]hroughout the six interviews, Mr. Wells never
    expressed concern that his employment would be affected
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    if he did not participate, even when he and the investigators
    discussed his long service with the Coast Guard.” And
    when Wells was told that a particular inquiry was
    voluntary—such as the search of his vehicle, the search of
    his phone, or his participation in the April 13 interviews—
    he readily agreed to it. Wells also sometimes volunteered
    information that went beyond the scope of the questions
    asked.
    Eventually, Wells invoked his Miranda rights and
    terminated the final interview. Although Wells notes that
    ending the last interview was not necessarily incompatible
    with a belief that he would face adverse employment
    consequences as a result, it does tend to suggest that Wells
    knew he was entitled to draw a line. And there is no
    indication Wells drew that line based on any perceived
    threat of losing his job. Indeed, earlier in the April 13
    interviews, Wells had no difficulty expressing his
    unwillingness to answer questions about his own
    disciplinary issues at COMMSTA, a topic integrally related
    to his employment.
    In addition, although Wells testified about receiving the
    letter of caution, there is no evidence that he was aware of
    the Coast Guard employment manual. See, e.g., Palmquist,
    
    712 F.3d at 646
     (rejecting Garrity claim when “there is no
    indication Palmquist was aware of the regulation at all, let
    alone that he was selectively presented with the” allegedly
    problematic portion). Wells did not testify that he had read
    the manual. As the district court found, “Mr. Wells has not
    submitted any evidence that he reviewed or was otherwise
    familiar with this manual or any applicable Coast Guard
    regulation.”
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                       29
    Having concluded that Wells did not establish a
    subjective belief that he was required to answer the
    investigators’ questions or suffer an employment
    consequence, we need not consider whether, if Wells had
    held such a belief, it would have been objectively
    reasonable. In short, Wells was not implicitly coerced to
    provide his interview statements, and the Fifth Amendment
    did not prevent the introduction of his statements at trial.
    The district court correctly denied Wells’s motion to
    suppress. 3
    III
    We next address Wells’s challenge to his restitution
    order. The district court ordered Wells to pay $1,921,640
    in restitution pursuant to the Mandatory Victims Restitution
    Act (MVRA). The court further determined that restitution
    should be paid using 80% of the monthly payments from
    Wells’s Thrift Savings Plan, military retirement benefits,
    civil service retirement benefits, and disability benefits
    payments.
    Wells argues that the district court erred in ordering
    80% garnishment of these monthly funds. Wells points out
    that the MVRA incorporates provisions of the Consumer
    3
    Wells also urges us to order the suppression of his statements to
    investigators using our supposed “supervisory powers” over federal
    employees.      Effectively, Wells asks that we create a “non-
    constitutional” rule of practice that would govern federal government
    investigations, requiring a “Garrity waiver” before any statements by
    government employees can be introduced at trial. Even assuming we
    have the power to create such a rule, which is hardly clear, we would
    decline to do so for the reasons already given.
    30                  UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    Credit Protection Act (CCPA), which limits “the maximum
    part of the aggregate disposable earnings of an individual
    for any workweek which is subjected to garnishment” to
    “25 per centum of his disposable earnings for that week.”
    
    15 U.S.C. § 1673
    ; see 
    18 U.S.C. § 3613
    (a)(3) (“[T]he
    provisions of section 303 of the Consumer Credit
    Protection Act (15 U.S.C. 1673) shall apply to enforcement
    of the judgment. . . .”). Wells claims that his retirement
    and disability benefits constitute “earnings” for purposes of
    
    15 U.S.C. § 1673
    , and that these funds thus cannot be
    garnished more than 25%.
    The district court acknowledged the “complex”
    “interface between the MVRA and federal consumer
    protection laws.” But the court declined to decide how the
    CCPA might apply to Wells’s benefits payments because
    the court concluded that regardless, it had discretion under
    the All Writs Act to order garnishment of a higher
    percentage of Wells’s monthly payments.
    Although a few other district courts have relied on the
    All Writs Act in similar situations, see United States v.
    Greco, 
    2013 WL 101931
    , at *2 (N.D. Ohio Jan. 8, 2013);
    United States v. Cunningham, 
    866 F. Supp. 2d 1050
    , 1062
    (S.D. Iowa 2012), we find that approach mistaken, and the
    government does not defend it. The All Writs Act provides
    that federal courts “may issue all writs necessary or
    appropriate in aid of their respective jurisdictions and
    agreeable to the usages and principles of law.” 
    28 U.S.C. § 1651
    (a). The Act “codifies the courts’ inherent authority
    to ‘fashion appropriate modes of procedure’ necessary to
    the exercise of the judicial function.” Perez v. Barr, 
    957 F.3d 958
    , 967 (9th Cir. 2020) (quoting Harris v. Nelson,
    
    394 U.S. 286
    , 299 (1969)). But because the Act does not
    enlarge a court’s jurisdiction, “‘[w]hen a statute specifically
    UNITED STATES V. WELLS                          31
    addresses the particular issue at hand, it is that authority,
    and not the All Writs Act, that is controlling.’” 
    Id.
     (quoting
    Pa. Bureau of Corr. v. U.S. Marshals Serv., 
    474 U.S. 34
    ,
    43 (1985)); see also Shoop v. Twyford, 
    142 S. Ct. 2037
    ,
    2044 (2022) (“We have made clear that a petitioner cannot
    use that Act to circumvent statutory requirements or
    otherwise binding procedural rules.”). Because the MVRA
    creates specific statutory requirements for garnishing
    earnings, the All Writs Act cannot be used to sidestep those
    requirements. 4
    Thus, the district court was required to determine
    whether each of Wells’s benefit payment streams
    constituted “earnings” under 
    15 U.S.C. § 1673
    . See also 
    15 U.S.C. § 1672
    (a) (defining “earnings” as “compensation
    paid or payable for personal services, whether denominated
    as wages, salary, commission, bonus, or otherwise, and
    includ[ing] periodic payments pursuant to a pension or
    retirement program”).          If so, the MVRA limited
    garnishment of those funds to 25%. Because the district
    court has not yet considered these questions, and because
    some of the facts underlying the different benefit payments
    are unclear, we remand for the district court to consider
    these issues in the first instance.
    4
    Wells also argues that the restitution order violated the Fifth and Sixth
    Amendments because it was based on facts not found by a jury. Our
    precedent forecloses this argument. See United States v. Alvarez, 
    835 F.3d 1180
    , 1185 (9th Cir. 2016). Our precedent likewise forecloses
    Wells’s argument that the restitution order violated his Seventh
    Amendment right to a jury trial. See United States v. Stanfill El, 
    714 F.3d 1150
    , 1154 (9th Cir. 2013).
    32                UNITED STATES V. WELLS
    ***
    For these reasons and those set forth in our
    accompanying memorandum disposition, we affirm Wells’s
    convictions but vacate his restitution order and remand for
    further proceedings on that issue only.
    AFFIRMED in part; VACATED and REMANDED
    in part.