C.J.L.G., a Juvenile Male v. William Barr , 923 F.3d 622 ( 2019 )


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  •                 FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    C.J.L.G., A JUVENILE MALE,                No. 16-73801
    Petitioner,
    Agency No.
    v.                       A206-838-888
    WILLIAM P. BARR, Attorney General,
    Respondent.          OPINION
    On Petition for Review of an Order of the
    Board of Immigration Appeals
    Argued and Submitted En Banc December 10, 2018
    San Francisco, California
    Filed May 3, 2019
    Before: Sidney R. Thomas, Chief Judge, and Susan P.
    Graber, M. Margaret McKeown, William A. Fletcher,
    Richard A. Paez, Marsha S. Berzon, Johnnie B. Rawlinson,
    Consuelo M. Callahan, Sandra S. Ikuta, Jacqueline H.
    Nguyen and Andrew D. Hurwitz, Circuit Judges.
    Opinion by Judge Hurwitz;
    Concurrence by Judge Paez;
    Concurrence by Judge Berzon;
    Dissent by Judge Callahan
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    SUMMARY *
    Immigration
    Granting C.J.L.G.’s petition for review of a Board of
    Immigration Appeals’ decision, the en banc court concluded
    that the Immigration Judge who ordered C.J. removed erred
    by failing to advise him about his apparent eligibility for
    Special Immigrant Juvenile (“SIJ”) status, and remanded.
    SIJ status provides a path to lawful permanent residency
    for at-risk children and requires a child to obtain a state-court
    order declaring him dependent or placing him under the
    custody of a court-appointed individual or entity. The state
    court must find that (1) “reunification with 1 or both . . .
    parents is not viable due to abuse, neglect, abandonment, or
    a similar basis found under State law;” and (2) it would not
    be in the child’s “best interest to be returned to [his] parent’s
    previous country.” 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(27)(J). After
    obtaining a state court order, the child must obtain the
    consent of the Secretary of Homeland Security to the
    granting of SIJ status by filing an I-360 petition with the
    United States Citizenship and Immigration Services
    (“USCIS”). If USCIS grants the petition, the child may
    apply for adjustment of status, and a visa must be
    immediately available when he applies.
    The en banc court noted that, under 8 C.F.R.
    § 1240.11(a)(2), an IJ is required to inform a petitioner
    subject to removal proceedings of “apparent eligibility to
    *
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    apply for any of the benefits enumerated in this chapter,” and
    observed that this court’s case law provides that the
    “apparent eligibility” standard is triggered whenever the
    facts before the IJ raise a reasonable possibility that the
    petitioner may be eligible for relief.
    The en banc court concluded that the information
    presented during CJ’s proceedings made it reasonably
    possible that he could establish eligibility for SIJ status. In
    this respect, the en banc court concluded that (1) his
    mother’s comment that CJ’s father left her a long time ago
    and CJ’s statement that he had had no paternal contact for
    many years demonstrated that reunification with one parent
    might be impossible due to abandonment; and (2) the death
    threats CJ received from a gang in Honduras when he was
    14 years old showed that returning to that country might not
    be in his best interest.
    The en banc court rejected the government’s contention
    that SIJ status is not a form of relief covered by the “apparent
    eligibility” standard of 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2), explaining
    that a successful SIJ application plainly can lead to relief
    from removal and that the SIJ regulations are among those
    in the referenced subchapter. The en banc court also rejected
    the government’s contention that an IJ is only required to
    advise a juvenile of potential eligibility for SIJ relief after
    the child has obtained a state court order, an approved I-360
    petition from USCIS, and an immediately available visa.
    The en banc court concluded that this approach would
    eviscerate the utility of advice by the IJ and substantially
    undermine the core purpose of the IJ’s duty to advise—to
    inform a minor of rights and avenues of relief of which he
    may not yet be aware.
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    The en banc court also observed that, although the IJ
    could not have granted CJ relief from removal at the time of
    the hearing, she could have continued the proceedings to
    allow him to apply for SIJ status. Noting that any eventual
    decision to grant or deny a continuance is within the
    discretion of the IJ, the en banc court stated that the IJ should
    exercise that decision in light of CJ’s apparent eligibility for
    SIJ status and may now also consider how far CJ has
    proceeded in the SIJ process. Therefore, the en banc court
    granted the petition for review, vacated the removal order,
    and remanded for a new hearing before the IJ.
    Finally, noting that CJ will be represented by counsel in
    future administrative proceedings, the en banc court stated
    that it need not address his contention that appointment of
    counsel for minors in removal proceedings is
    constitutionally required.
    Concurring, Judge Paez wrote separately because he
    disagreed with the majority’s decision to remain silent on the
    issue of a child’s right to counsel in immigration removal
    proceedings. Judge Paez would reach the fundamental
    question raised in this proceeding: whether the Fifth
    Amendment’s guaranty of due process entitles children to
    appointed counsel in immigration proceedings. He would
    hold that it does, for indigent children under age 18 who are
    seeking asylum, withholding of removal, relief under the
    Convention Against Torture, or another form of relief for
    which they may be eligible, such as SIJ status.
    Concurring in part and concurring in the judgment,
    Judge Berzon wrote to note that consideration of the right to
    counsel question for minors in removal proceedings has been
    unnecessarily hindered by this court’s decisions in J.E.F.M.
    v. Lynch, 
    837 F.3d 1026
    (9th Cir. 2016), reh’g en banc
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    denied, 
    908 F.3d 1157
    (9th Cir. 2018) (Berzon, J., dissenting
    from denial of rehearing en banc), which held that the right
    to counsel question must be considered in a petition for
    review from an individual child’s removal proceedings, and
    not through a class action filed in the district court. Judge
    Berzon wrote that a more developed factual record than is
    available here would have given the court more information
    on which to decide whether minors in removal proceedings
    have a right to counsel and whether that right is universal or
    may be limited to certain categories of cases. Judge Berzon
    wrote that the court was not answering any of those
    questions in this en banc proceeding, quite possibly because
    of qualms concerning fashioning the precise parameters of a
    right to counsel for minors in a single case. Accordingly,
    Judge Berzon observed that the court shut one door to the
    courthouse in J.E.F.M. on the promise of keeping another
    open, only to duck out of that door—for now—as well.
    Dissenting, Judge Callahan, joined by Judge Ikuta, wrote
    that she must dissent because the majority required more of
    the IJ than was required or appropriate. Judge Callahan
    would hold that the information presented at CJ’s hearing
    before the IJ did not create a reasonable possibility that CJ
    qualified for relief. In this respect, Judge Callahan wrote that
    this court has explained that an IJ is required to inform an
    alien only of his “apparent eligibility” at the time of the
    hearing.
    Accordingly, Judge Callahan concluded that, even
    assuming that SIJ status is a “benefit” contemplated by this
    regulation, there was no such “apparent eligibility” at the
    time of CJ’s hearing: CJ had not commenced any
    proceeding in a juvenile court, nor demonstrated any need or
    reason to do so. Nor was there any evidence indicating
    whether the Secretary of Homeland Security would consent
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    to an application by CJ, or that a visa was immediately
    available.
    COUNSEL
    Ahilan T. Arulanantham (argued), ACLU Foundation of
    Southern California, Los Angeles, California; Aaron E.
    Millstein and Theodore J. Angelis, K&L Gates LLP, Seattle,
    Washington; Glenda M. Aldana Madrid and Matt Adams,
    Northwest Immigrant Rights Project, Seattle, Washington;
    Stephen Kang, ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project, San
    Francisco, California; for Petitioner.
    Scott G. Stewart (argued) and W. Manning Evans, Senior
    Litigation Counsel; John W. Blakeley, Assistant Director;
    Joseph H. Hunt, Assistant Attorney General; Office of
    Immigration Litigation, Civil Division, United States
    Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; for Respondent.
    Nareeneh Sohbatian and John E. Schreiber, Winston &
    Strawn LLP, Los Angeles, California; Jonathan S.
    Goldstein, Winston & Strawn LLP, San Francisco,
    California; for Amicus Curiae Immigrant Legal Resource
    Center.
    Anne Dutton, Eunice Lee, Karen Musalo, and Blaine
    Bookey, Center for Gender & Refugee Studies, San
    Francisco, California, for Amicus Curiae Center for Gender
    & Refugee Studies.
    Robert A. Brundage and Lucy Wang, Morgan Lewis &
    Bockius LLP, San Francisco, California; Daniel Grunfeld,
    Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP, Los Angeles, California; for
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    Amici Curiae Dr. Jennifer Woolard and Dr. Laurence
    Steinberg.
    Lee Brand and Harrison “Buzz” Frahn, Simpson Thacher &
    Bartlett LLP, Palo Alto, California, for Amici Curiae Former
    Federal Immigration Judges.
    David W. Schecter and Brian A. Procel, Miller Barondess
    LLP, Los Angeles, California, for Amici Curiae Professor
    Kevin Lapp, Associate Professor of Law, Loyola Law
    School, et al.
    Eric Tuttle, Munger Tolles & Olson LLP, Los Angeles,
    California; Jonathan Meltzer, Munger Tolles & Olson LLP,
    Washington, D.C.; for Amici Curiae Constitutional Law and
    Procedure Scholars Judith Resnick and Brian Soucek.
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    OPINION
    HURWITZ, Circuit Judge:
    A gang held 14-year-old C.J.L.G. (“CJ”) at gunpoint in
    his native Honduras and threatened to kill his family after he
    rejected recruitment attempts. CJ and his mother Maria then
    fled their homeland and sought asylum in the United States.
    Although finding CJ credible, an immigration judge (“IJ”)
    denied his request for asylum and ordered him removed.
    The Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”) dismissed CJ’s
    appeal.
    CJ petitions for review, arguing, among other things, that
    the IJ erred by failing to recognize he was an at-risk child
    potentially eligible for relief as a Special Immigrant Juvenile
    (“SIJ”) and to so advise him. Because we conclude that the
    IJ erroneously failed to advise CJ about his eligibility for SIJ
    status, we grant the petition.
    I. Background
    In June 2014, CJ and Maria were apprehended in Texas
    after entering the country without inspection. Because
    Maria was the subject of a prior removal order, separate
    removal proceedings were instituted against CJ.
    At his initial hearing before an IJ in November 2014, CJ
    appeared with Maria but without counsel. When the IJ
    informed them that she would “not appoint an attorney for
    [CJ]” but that they had “the right to find an attorney . . . at
    [their] own expense,” Maria said she did not “have money to
    pay for an attorney” but requested time to find one. Maria
    was unable to find counsel despite several continuances, and
    ultimately agreed to represent CJ herself. When Maria
    explained that CJ feared returning to Honduras “because of
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    the gangs,” the IJ gave her an asylum application and
    questioned her about her son. In response to one question,
    Maria stated that CJ’s father had left her long ago.
    In June 2015, Maria filed the asylum application on CJ’s
    behalf. She also sought withholding of removal and
    protection under the Convention Against Torture. The IJ
    accepted the application and set CJ’s case for a hearing.
    At that hearing, CJ testified that gang members
    threatened to kill him and other family members on three
    occasions after he rejected recruitment attempts. On the
    third occasion, CJ was held at gunpoint and given one day to
    decide whether to join the gang; he and Maria then fled
    Honduras. CJ testified that it had been “many years” since
    he had any contact with his father.
    The IJ expressly found CJ credible but denied his
    applications for relief from removal. On appeal to the BIA,
    now represented by counsel, CJ contended that the IJ had
    erred by failing to appoint counsel or advise him about SIJ
    status. The BIA dismissed the appeal, concluding that,
    although the IJ must “inform the respondent of any apparent
    forms of relief from removal,” CJ had not established
    eligibility for SIJ status. The BIA also found that it lacked
    jurisdiction to consider whether CJ had a constitutional right
    to appointed counsel.
    A three-judge panel denied CJ’s petition for review.
    C.J.L.G. v. Sessions, 
    880 F.3d 1122
    , 1150–51 (9th Cir.
    2018). The panel held that CJ had no right to appointed
    counsel and that the IJ did not err in failing to inform CJ
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    about his potential ability to obtain SIJ status. 1 
    Id. at 1147–
    50. A majority of active judges voted to grant CJ’s petition
    for rehearing en banc, and the panel opinion was vacated.
    C.J.L.G. v. Sessions, 
    904 F.3d 642
    , 642 (9th Cir. 2018).
    II. Discussion
    A.
    An IJ is required to inform a petitioner subject to removal
    proceedings of “apparent eligibility to apply for any of the
    benefits enumerated in this chapter.”                  8 C.F.R.
    § 1240.11(a)(2). One of the benefits listed “in this chapter”
    is SIJ status. 
    Id. § 1245.1(a),
    (e)(2)(vi)(B)(3).
    Congress created SIJ status in 1990 to provide a path to
    lawful permanent residency for certain at-risk children.
    Immigration Act of 1990, Pub. L. No. 101-649, 104 Stat.
    4978, 5005–06; see Bianka M. v. Superior Court, 
    423 P.3d 334
    , 337–38 (Cal. 2018). A child seeking SIJ protection
    must first obtain a state-court order declaring him dependent
    or placing him under the custody of a court-appointed
    “individual or entity.” 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(i). The
    state court issuing the order must find that (1) “reunification
    with 1 or both . . . parents is not viable due to abuse, neglect,
    abandonment, or a similar basis found under State law;” and
    (2) it would not be in the child’s “best interest to be returned
    1
    Judge Owens concurred, noting that the opinion “does not hold, or
    even discuss, whether the Due Process Clause mandates counsel for
    unaccompanied 
    minors.” 880 F.3d at 1151
    (Owens, J., concurring)
    (citing J.E.F.M. v. Lynch, 
    837 F.3d 1026
    , 1039–41 (9th Cir. 2016)
    (McKeown, J., joined by M. Smith, J., specially concurring)).
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    to [his] parent’s previous country.” 
    Id. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(i)–
    (ii). 2
    After obtaining a state court order, the child must obtain
    the consent of the Secretary of Homeland Security to the
    granting of SIJ status by filing an I-360 petition with the
    United States Citizenship and Immigration Services
    (“USCIS”). See 
    id. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(iii);
    6 USCIS Policy
    Manual, pt. J, ch. 2(A), ch. 4(E)(1) (current as of Apr. 19,
    2019). In reviewing an I-360 petition, “USCIS relies on the
    expertise of the juvenile court . . . and does not reweigh the
    evidence,” but may deny relief if it determines that the state
    court order had no reasonable factual basis or was sought
    “primarily or solely to obtain an immigration benefit.”
    6 USCIS Policy Manual, pt. J, ch. 2(D)(5); see H.R. Rep.
    No. 105-405, at 130 (1997) (Conf. Rep.).
    If USCIS grants the petition, the child may apply for
    adjustment of status. 6 USCIS Policy Manual, pt. J,
    ch. 4(A). A “visa must be immediately available” when he
    applies. 8 C.F.R. § 1245.2(a)(2)(i)(A); see 8 U.S.C.
    § 1153(b)(4) (establishing quota for SIJ visas). A child who
    is not in removal proceedings applies to USCIS for
    adjustment of status, see 8 C.F.R. § 245.2(a)(1), but one in
    removal proceedings must seek it from the IJ, 
    id. § 1245.2(a)(1)(i);
    6 USCIS Policy Manual, pt. J, ch. 4(A)
    n.2. If the child was the subject of a removal order before
    2
    The dissent accurately notes that, at the time of his IJ hearing, CJ
    was with his mother and not adjudicated a dependent. Before 2008,
    regulations required the state court to find the minor eligible for foster
    placement before SIJ status could be awarded. 8 C.F.R. § 204.11(c)(4)–
    (5). But in that year, Congress replaced the foster placement requirement
    with the requirement that reunification with at least one parent be not
    viable. See William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection
    Reauthorization Act of 2008, Pub. L. No. 110-457, 122 Stat. 5044, 5079.
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    obtaining SIJ status, he cannot adjust status unless the IJ also
    vacates the removal order. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(9)(A)(ii)
    (providing that a person under a removal order is
    inadmissible). The IJ has discretion both in deciding
    whether to reopen removal proceedings, see 8 C.F.R.
    § 1003.2(a), and in whether to grant a subsequent adjustment
    application, see 8 U.S.C. § 1255(a).
    B.
    The “apparent eligibility” standard of 8 C.F.R.
    § 1240.11(a)(2) is triggered whenever the facts before the IJ
    raise a “reasonable possibility that the petitioner may be
    eligible for relief.” Moran-Enriquez v. INS, 
    884 F.2d 420
    ,
    423 (9th Cir. 1989). A failure to advise can be excused only
    when the petitioner’s eligibility for relief is not “plausible.”
    See United States v. Rojas-Pedroza, 
    716 F.3d 1253
    , 1265–
    67 (9th Cir. 2013) (finding no prejudice from the IJ’s failure
    to advise about eligibility to apply for voluntary departure
    because it was not “plausible” IJ would grant it); United
    States v. Arrieta, 
    224 F.3d 1076
    , 1082–83 (9th Cir. 2000)
    (finding prejudice from the IJ’s advisement failure because
    excludability waiver under 8 U.S.C. § 1182(h) was
    “plausible”).
    The information presented during CJ’s proceedings
    made it reasonably possible that he could establish eligibility
    for SIJ status. Maria’s comment that CJ’s father left her “a
    long time ago,” and CJ’s statement that he had no paternal
    contact for “many years” demonstrated that reunification
    with one parent might be impossible “due to . . .
    abandonment.” See 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(i). And CJ’s
    testimony about the death threats he received from the gang
    showed that returning to Honduras might not be in his “best
    interest.” See 
    id. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(ii).
    Indeed, once he
    became aware of his potential eligibility for SIJ status, CJ
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    obtained the required state-court order and has now filed an
    I-360 petition. 3
    The government does not suggest that it was not
    reasonably possible at the time of CJ’s hearing that he could
    obtain SIJ status or that the IJ was not aware of the facts
    suggesting CJ’s eligibility for relief. Rather, it contends that
    SIJ status is not a form of relief from removal covered by
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2). That argument fails. A successful
    SIJ application plainly can lead to relief from removal, see
    6 USCIS Policy Manual, pt. J, ch. 4(A), and SIJ regulations
    are among those in the referenced subchapter, 8 C.F.R.
    § 1245.1(a), (e)(2)(vi)(B)(3).
    In the alternative, the government argues that the IJ is
    only required to advise a juvenile of potential eligibility for
    SIJ relief after the child has obtained a state-court order, an
    approved I-360 petition from USCIS, and an immediately
    available visa. “We do not read the regulation so grudgingly.
    [It] obviously is meant to prompt the IJ to help an alien
    explore legal avenues of relief that might not be apparent to
    him or his attorney.” 
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.2d at 423
    . To
    adopt the government’s position here would require a minor
    to complete all but the final step for SIJ status—seeking
    adjustment of status from the IJ—before triggering the IJ’s
    duty to advise him of SIJ eligibility. This is a nonsensical
    approach. It would eviscerate the utility of advice by the IJ
    and substantially undermine the core purpose of the IJ’s duty
    3
    We GRANT CJ’s motion for judicial notice of the state-court
    order, but DENY his other requests for judicial notice (Dkt. 133).
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    to advise—to inform a minor of rights and avenues of relief
    of which he may not yet be aware. 4
    To be sure, CJ’s eventual ability to obtain SIJ status
    depended on future decisions by a state court and USCIS.
    But the regulation speaks of “apparent eligibility,” not
    certain entitlement. 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2). We have
    made plain that “[t]he regulations do not require . . . a
    reviewing court to conclude that an alien would certainly
    qualify for relief.” Bui v. INS, 
    76 F.3d 268
    , 271 (9th Cir.
    1996). Thus, in Bui, we held that an IJ was required to advise
    Bui about potential eligibility for a waiver of excludability
    under 8 U.S.C. § 1182(h) even though the record did not
    show he could satisfy every element necessary to obtain
    relief. 
    Id. To obtain
    the waiver, Bui had to show he had a
    U.S. citizen or permanent resident relative, and that the
    relative would suffer extreme hardship were Bui deported.
    
    Id. And, to
    adjust his status, Bui needed both the waiver and
    an immediately available visa approved by USCIS. 
    Id. at 270–71
    (citing 8 U.S.C. §§ 1182(h), 1255(a)). Although the
    record contained no evidence of hardship and the
    government argued that no visa would be available, the IJ
    nonetheless had a duty to advise because the record “raised
    an inference of the existence of relatives and the possibility
    of relief.” 
    Id. at 271.
    Indeed, we had previously explained
    that the advisement duty “[b]y definition” involves
    situations where, as here, the petitioner does not “make a
    complete showing of eligibility.”           Moran-Enriquez,
    4
    We are mindful that the duty to advise minors about SIJ status
    “places a significant burden on already overburdened Immigration
    Judges.” 
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.2d at 423
    . But, “it is a burden clearly
    contemplated by the regulation promulgated by the Attorney General”
    and the statute passed by Congress. 
    Id. C.J.L.G. V.
    BARR                             
    15 884 F.2d at 423
    ; see also 
    Arrieta, 224 F.3d at 1082
    –83
    (holding that failure to advise was prejudicial because,
    “although the evidence produced by Mr. Arrieta does not
    guarantee that he would have been granted [the] waiver, it
    provides the ‘something more’ that makes it plausible that
    he would have received one”). 5
    C.
    When the IJ fails to provide the required advice, the
    appropriate course is to “grant the petition for review,
    reverse the BIA’s dismissal of [the petitioner’s] appeal of the
    IJ’s failure to inform him of this relief, and remand for a new
    [ ] hearing.” 
    Bui, 76 F.3d at 271
    ; see also 
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.2d at 423
    (ordering remand). The government argues
    that we should not do so here because the IJ could not have
    granted the state court order, the I-360 petition, or a visa
    during the removal proceedings that are the subject of this
    petition for review. But that was precisely the situation in
    Bui and Moran-Enriquez. See 
    Bui, 76 F.3d at 271
    (remanding even though Bui might not be able to obtain a
    visa); 
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.2d at 422
    –23 (same).
    More importantly, although the IJ could not have granted
    CJ relief from removal at the time of the hearing, she could
    5
    We have suggested that advisement may not be required if a
    petitioner would be eligible for relief only after a change in the law or a
    change in his personal circumstances. See, e.g., United States v. Lopez-
    Velasquez, 
    629 F.3d 894
    , 901 (9th Cir. 2010) (en banc) (noting that
    Lopez could obtain relief “only with a change in law and the passage of
    eight months”); United States v. Moriel-Luna, 
    585 F.3d 1191
    , 1198 n.2
    (9th Cir. 2009) (noting that Moriel-Luna “needed not only time but also
    to either marry his U.S.-citizen girlfriend or to have his parents
    successfully petition for citizenship”). This is not such a case.
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    have continued the proceedings to allow him to apply for SIJ
    status. Indeed, the BIA recently held that an IJ should do so
    when the child is “actively pursuing” the state-court order. 6
    See In re Zepeda-Padilla, 
    2018 WL 1897722
    , at *1–2
    (B.I.A. Feb. 16, 2018) (unpublished). The record makes
    plain that, once CJ was informed of eligibility for that status,
    he vigorously—and successfully—pursued the required
    order. And, had the IJ granted a continuance while CJ
    navigated the SIJ process, he would not currently be subject
    to a removal order. Because that order was entered, CJ’s
    road to relief has become more difficult; even if he obtains
    SIJ status, he can apply for relief only if his removal
    proceedings are reopened. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(9)(A)(ii);
    Bonilla v. Lynch, 
    840 F.3d 575
    , 589 (9th Cir. 2016)
    (explaining that reopening vacates the removal order).
    To be sure, any eventual “decision to grant or deny the
    continuance is within ‘the sound discretion of the judge.’”
    Ahmed v. Holder, 
    569 F.3d 1009
    , 1012 (9th Cir. 2009)
    (quoting Sandoval-Luna v. Mukasey, 
    526 F.3d 1243
    , 1247
    (9th Cir. 2008) (per curiam)). But the IJ should exercise that
    6
    The Attorney General recently stated that, in assessing a motion
    for a continuance, “an immigration judge will generally need an
    evidentiary submission by the respondent, which should include copies
    of relevant submissions in the collateral proceeding, supporting
    affidavits, and the like.” Matter of L-A-B-R-, 27 I. & N. Dec. 405, 418
    (A.G. 2018). But that general rule should not prevent the IJ from
    granting a continuance when, as here, the child is unaware of his apparent
    eligibility for relief until so advised, and thereafter diligently pursues
    relief. See 
    id. at 412
    (approving tribunals’ use of “context-specific
    multifactor balancing tests, rather than attempting to craft bright-line,
    one-size-fits-all definitions”); see also 
    id. at 413
    (“The good-cause
    standard in section 1003.29 requires consideration and balancing of all
    relevant factors in assessing a motion for continuance to accommodate a
    collateral matter.”).
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                            17
    discretion in light of CJ’s apparent eligibility for SIJ status,
    something overlooked at the time of his hearing, and may
    now also consider how far he has proceeded in the process.
    We therefore grant the petition for review, vacate the
    removal order, and remand for a new hearing before the IJ. 7
    PETITION GRANTED.
    PAEZ, Circuit Judge, joined by FLETCHER and BERZON,
    Circuit Judges, concurring:
    I concur in the majority’s opinion—as far as it goes. I
    agree that the Immigration Judge (“IJ”) had a duty to advise
    CJ of his apparent eligibility for Special Immigrant Juvenile
    (“SIJ”) relief. I write separately because I disagree with the
    majority’s decision to remain silent on the issue of a child’s
    right to counsel in immigration removal proceedings. As the
    majority acknowledges, CJ’s asylum, withholding of
    removal, and Convention Against Torture (“CAT”) claims
    may come back to this court. I would reach the fundamental
    question raised in this proceeding: whether the Fifth
    Amendment’s guaranty of due process entitles children to
    7
    Because CJ will be represented by counsel in future administrative
    proceedings, we need not address his contention that appointment of
    counsel is constitutionally required. Because we have vacated the order
    of removal, we also do not address the denial of CJ’s asylum,
    withholding of removal, and CAT claims. If a new order of removal is
    entered, these issues (including any claim based on denial of counsel
    remaining after new proceedings before the IJ) can be addressed in a
    future petition for review. See Singh v. Gonzales, 
    499 F.3d 969
    , 975 (9th
    Cir. 2007) (holding that the court was not barred from reviewing a claim
    on a successive petition for review where “[t]here has never been a final
    judgment on the merits with respect” to that claim).
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    appointed counsel in immigration proceedings. I would hold
    that it does, for indigent children under age 18 who are
    seeking asylum, withholding of removal, CAT, or another
    form of relief for which they may be eligible, such as SIJ
    status. 1
    I.
    The majority states that because CJ now has counsel, we
    need not address his argument that appointed counsel is
    constitutionally required for indigent children in removal
    proceedings. That was the critical issue raised in the petition
    for rehearing en banc. In J.E.F.M. v. Lynch, we stated that
    the only proper way for immigrant children to pursue their
    right to counsel claims was by exhausting the administrative
    process of their removal orders and then seeking review in
    federal court. 
    837 F.3d 1026
    , 1038 (9th Cir. 2016).
    “Following discussion at oral argument, to facilitate a test
    case,” the government provided counsel in J.E.F.M. with
    “notice of any minor without counsel that the government is
    aware of ordered removed by an immigration judge
    following a merits hearing.” 
    Id. at 1037
    n.10. We described
    such a case as one where “a right-to-counsel claim [would
    be] teed up for appellate review.” 
    Id. at 1038.
    Now, we have
    1
    I consider the right to counsel for indigent children under age 18
    because that is the age referenced in the parties’ briefs. See Petitioner’s
    Opening Brief at 24 n.9 (“This country’s legal systems use the age of 18
    more consistently than any other when marking the boundary between
    childhood and adulthood.”); Respondent’s Answering Brief at 38
    (interpreting CJ’s argument to be for children under 18 to receive the
    right to counsel). I recognize, however, that immigration law applies age
    21 as the boundary between eligibility for SIJ status or asylum status as
    the “derivative” of a parent’s successful asylum application. See, e.g., 8
    U.S.C. § 1101(b)(1), Flores-Chavez v. Ashcroft, 
    362 F.3d 1150
    , 1159
    (9th Cir. 2004).
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                            19
    that case, and the majority inexplicably punts the question
    yet again.
    Such cases are extremely difficult to bring, and I am
    aware of only one other in this circuit. See 
    id. at 1037.
    About fifteen years ago, in Guzman-Heredia v. Gonzales,
    No. 04-72769 (9th Cir.), a child appeared pro se and was
    ordered removed. 
    J.E.F.M., 837 F.3d at 1037
    . Pro bono
    counsel raised the issue of the child’s right to counsel before
    the Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”), but the case
    ultimately settled.      
    Id. Since then,
    thousands of
    unrepresented children have been ordered removed.
    Transactional        Records       Access       Clearinghouse,
    Representation for Unaccompanied Children in
    Immigration          Court        (Nov.        25,       2014),
    http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/371/_(tracking over
    27,000 children without counsel ordered removed in a ten-
    year span). 2 Until CJ’s case arose through the J.E.F.M.
    discovery process, only one other child seeking appointed
    counsel had made it to this court of appeals. Because of
    children’s lack of understanding of the immigration and
    appellate systems, as well as their youthful emotional and
    intellectual maturity levels, this is unsurprising.
    2
    Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (“TRAC”), a
    nonpartisan multi-year project affiliated with Syracuse University,
    reviews and presents data based on information from the government.
    Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, About the Project,
    https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/about.html (last visited Feb. 27, 2019).
    The data reflects fiscal years, rather than calendar years. See, e.g.,
    Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, Children: Amid a
    Growing Court Backlog Many Still Unrepresented (Sept. 28, 2017),
    https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/482/.
    20                    C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    II.
    Immigrant children “in deportation proceedings are
    entitled to the fifth amendment guaranty of due process.”
    Flores-Chavez v. Ashcroft, 
    362 F.3d 1150
    , 1160 (9th Cir.
    2004) (internal quotation omitted). This has been true “[f]or
    over one hundred years.” 
    Id. at 1161
    (citing Yamataya v.
    Fisher, 
    189 U.S. 86
    (1903)). Indeed, “every individual in
    removal proceedings is entitled to a full and fair hearing.”
    Oshodi v. Holder, 
    729 F.3d 883
    , 889 (9th Cir. 2013) (en
    banc) (citing Colmenar v. I.N.S., 
    210 F.3d 967
    , 971 (9th Cir.
    2000)); see also 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(B). Due process
    rights persist regardless of whether the immigrant entered
    unlawfully, Zadvydas v. Davis, 
    533 U.S. 678
    , 693 (2001),
    was apprehended soon after entry, United States v. Raya-
    Vaca, 
    771 F.3d 1195
    , 1202–03 (9th Cir. 2014), or has
    conceded removability and then seeks relief, see, e.g.,
    Morgan v. Mukasey, 
    529 F.3d 1202
    , 1205, 1211 (9th Cir.
    2008).
    A violation of the right to retained counsel is uniquely
    important, and thus we do not require a showing of prejudice
    to grant relief. Generally, immigrants must show prejudice
    when they argue a due process violation. See Tamayo-
    Tamayo v. Holder, 
    725 F.3d 950
    , 954 (9th Cir. 2013). But
    “an individual who is wrongly denied the assistance of
    counsel at the merits hearing need not show prejudice” at all.
    Gomez-Velazco v. Sessions, 
    879 F.3d 989
    , 993 (9th Cir.
    2018) (citations omitted) (contrasting removal, i.e. merits,
    hearings from other interactions an immigrant may have
    with government agents); see, e.g., Montes-Lopez v. Holder,
    
    694 F.3d 1085
    , 1090 (9th Cir. 2012) (holding there was no
    need to show prejudice where an IJ denied an immigrant his
    right to counsel by failing to grant a continuance due to the
    absence of his retained counsel); cf. Acewicz v. I.N.S.,
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                             21
    
    984 F.2d 1056
    , 1062 (9th Cir. 1993) (recognizing that
    infringements of the right to counsel are prejudicial where
    counsel “could have better marshalled specific facts or
    arguments in presenting the petitioner’s case for asylum or
    withholding of deportation” (citation omitted)). This is in
    part because “denial of counsel more fundamentally affects
    the whole of a proceeding than ineffective assistance of
    counsel.” 
    Montes-Lopez, 694 F.3d at 1092
    (noting that “the
    absence of counsel can change an alien’s strategic decisions,
    prevent him or her from making potentially-meritorious
    legal arguments, and limit the evidence the alien is able to
    include in the record”). 3
    “The importance of counsel, particularly in asylum cases
    where the law is complex and developing, can neither be
    overemphasized nor ignored.” Reyes-Palacios v. I.N.S.,
    
    836 F.2d 1154
    , 1155 (9th Cir. 1988). For immigrant
    children, that is especially true. In Jie Lin v. Ashcroft, we
    held that a child was denied effective assistance of counsel,
    in violation of due process, by counsel’s inept performance.
    
    377 F.3d 1014
    , 1034 (9th Cir. 2004). There, the counsel’s
    “lack of preparation prevented her from researching and
    presenting basic legal arguments fundamental to the asylum
    3
    Other circuits have reached the same conclusion. See Leslie v.
    Attorney Gen., 
    611 F.3d 171
    , 174–75 (3d Cir. 2010) (holding there was
    no need to show prejudice where IJ failed to inform immigrant of the
    availability of free legal services); Montilla v. I.N.S., 
    926 F.2d 162
    , 169
    (2d Cir. 1991) (declining to add a prejudice requirement where an IJ
    failed to notify an immigrant of his right to counsel and to provide him
    with a list of free legal services); Castaneda-Delgado v. I.N.S., 
    525 F.2d 1295
    , 1300–01 (7th Cir. 1975) (rejecting the government’s argument that
    immigrants must show prejudice when they had been given a
    continuance of less than 48 hours after being informed of the right to
    obtain counsel); Cheung v. I.N.S., 
    418 F.2d 460
    , 464 (D.C. Cir. 1969)
    (holding there was no need to show prejudice when immigrant was given
    inadequate time to consider retaining counsel).
    22                    C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    claim” and “her lack of investigation left her unable to
    present critical facts to support Lin’s claim.” 
    Id. at 1024;
    see
    also 
    id. at 1024–27.
    CJ’s case poses the question: If an
    attorney’s failure to investigate and research her child
    client’s case can be a Fifth Amendment violation, 
    id. at 1024,
    then how can a child without any counsel have a
    proceeding that comports with due process?
    In other civil contexts where children face grave
    consequences, courts and legislatures have already answered
    this question: children have due process rights to appointed
    counsel. See, e.g., In re Gault, 
    387 U.S. 1
    , 36–37 (1967)
    (civil juvenile delinquency proceedings that may result in
    commitment); Kent v. United States, 
    383 U.S. 541
    , 561
    (1966) (civil proceedings seeking to transfer children to
    adult criminal courts); In re Roger S., 
    569 P.2d 1286
    , 1296
    (Cal. 1977) (civil proceedings for a child’s commitment to
    state hospital); see also Cal. Welf. & Inst. Code § 366.26(f)
    (child’s right to counsel in hearing terminating parental
    rights); Tex. Fam. Code Ann. § 107.012 (same).
    Despite these background principles, at oral argument,
    the government refused to concede it would ever be
    appropriate to appoint counsel in order to have a
    “full and fair” deportation proceeding, including if a
    hypothetical two-year-old child were alone in court.
    Recording of Oral Argument at 29:41–32:47, C.J.L.G. v.
    Barr, No. 16-73801 (9th Cir. Dec. 10, 2018),
    https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_video.php?pk_v
    id=0000014799 (responding negatively to inquiries about
    right to appointed counsel for a three-year-old, a two-year-
    old, and a baby in a basket).
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                     23
    I cannot ignore this mockery of judicial and
    administrative processes. There are thousands of very real
    children in removal proceedings without counsel. Data from
    August 2017 shows that four out of every ten children whose
    cases began in 2016 were unrepresented, where there were
    over 33,000 new cases—and that number rose to three out of
    every four children whose cases began in 2017, where
    there were about 19,000 new cases. Transactional Records
    Access Clearinghouse, Children: Amid a Growing Court
    Backlog Many Still Unrepresented (Sept. 28, 2017),
    https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/482/. Many of them
    are fleeing persecution. CJ is fleeing threats from gangs, and
    his case demonstrates a child’s need for counsel in removal
    proceedings so that the proceedings may be constitutionally
    “full and fair,” especially where the child’s proceedings are
    made even more complex by virtue of the child’s potential
    eligibility for relief through SIJ status or asylum. 
    Oshodi, 729 F.3d at 889
    .
    III.
    Where due process interests are at stake in a child’s
    removal proceedings, this court looks to the familiar test
    formulated in Mathews v. Eldridge, 
    424 U.S. 319
    , 335
    (1976). See 
    Flores-Chavez, 362 F.3d at 1160
    . The Mathews
    test recognizes three factors:
    First, the private interest that will be affected
    by the official action; second, the risk of an
    erroneous deprivation of such interest
    through the procedures used, and the
    probable value, if any, of additional or
    substitute procedural safeguards; and finally,
    the Government’s interest, including the
    function involved and the fiscal and
    administrative burdens that the additional or
    24                    C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    substitute procedural requirement would
    
    entail. 424 U.S. at 335
    .
    When determining whether there is a right to counsel in
    civil proceedings, like here, the court must “set [the] net
    weight” of those three factors “against the presumption that
    there is a right to appointed counsel only where the indigent,
    if he is unsuccessful, may lose his personal freedom.”
    Lassiter v. Dep’t of Social Servs. of Durham Cty., 
    452 U.S. 18
    , 27 (1981). The Lassiter presumption is rebuttable. 
    Id. at 31.
    Turner v. Rogers, 
    564 U.S. 431
    , 446–48 (2011) further
    clarified the Mathews test for assessing whether due process
    requires counsel in civil proceedings. First, courts should
    look to whether the critical question at issue in the cases is
    straightforward.     
    Id. (noting that
    the question of a
    defendant’s indigence in a contempt proceeding is
    straightforward). Second, courts should consider whether
    there is an asymmetry of counsel. 
    Id. at 446–47.
    Where one
    side is represented, it “could make the proceedings less fair
    overall, increasing the risk” of an erroneous decision. 
    Id. at 447.
    Third, courts should look to the substitute procedural
    safeguards, such as adequate notice and a fair opportunity to
    present one’s case. 
    Id. at 447–48.
    The test established in Mathews, elaborated upon in
    Lassiter and Turner, and applied in many other cases,
    requires courts to look at structural procedures that exist and
    those that are sought by a category of claimants—not the
    procedures applied in a single claimant’s case. For example,
    when addressing the three factors in Mathews, the Court
    focused on the general social security disability benefit
    recipient. In assessing the private interest, the Court used
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                      25
    terms such as “a recipient” or “a [disabled] worker” and
    considered the average delay in payment of benefits.
    
    Mathews, 424 U.S. at 340
    –42; see also 
    Turner, 564 U.S. at 446
    –49 (examining, generally “an indigent’s right to paid
    counsel” in a contempt proceeding for failing to pay child
    support). In Flores-Chavez, we applied the Mathews test to
    determine whether notice of a child’s removal proceedings
    must be provided to the adult with custody of the 
    child. 362 F.3d at 1161
    . Under the first and third factors, we
    looked only at immigrant children generally, not the
    particular child’s interests. 
    Id. at 1161
    –62. Under the
    second factor, we treated Flores’s case as “demonstrat[ive],”
    but we did not limit ourselves to Flores’s facts. 
    Id. at 1161
    .
    I analyze the Mathews factors, with consideration of the
    Lassiter presumption and Turner factors, to assess the right
    to counsel for children under age 18 in removal proceedings,
    and I treat CJ’s particular case as “demonstrative.”
    A.
    First, the private interest affected is “the loss of a
    significant liberty interest.” 
    Flores-Chavez, 362 F.3d at 1161
    . Courts have long recognized that “deportation is a
    penalty—at times a most serious one.” Bridges v. Wixon,
    
    326 U.S. 135
    , 154 (1945); see also 
    id. at 164
    (Murphy, J.,
    concurring) (“The impact of deportation upon the life of an
    alien is often as great if not greater than the imposition of a
    criminal sentence.”).
    When a child may be deported, the interest is especially
    great. See Jie 
    Lin, 377 F.3d at 1033
    (accounting for a
    “minor’s age, intelligence, education, information, and
    understanding and ability to comprehend” in removal
    proceedings).    For an immigrant seeking asylum,
    withholding of removal, or CAT protection, the liberty
    26                         C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    interest is greater still. 
    Oshodi, 729 F.3d at 894
    (noting, “the
    private interest could hardly be greater”). The impact of
    deportation could be persecution, including potential police
    beatings, torture, and sexual assault as in Oshodi, 
    id. at 886,
    harm to a child and his family for failure to comply with a
    coercive government practice, as alleged in Jie 
    Lin, 377 F.3d at 1021
    , or gun violence at the hands of gang members as in
    CJ’s case.
    A child in removal proceedings, especially a child with
    a claim for asylum, withholding of removal, or CAT relief,
    has a significant liberty interest. The first Mathews factor
    weighs in favor of CJ.
    B.
    The second factor in Mathews is the risk of error and
    adequacy of the challenged procedures.
    Risk of Error
    At the outset, the risk of error for children without
    counsel is high. Pro se children in immigration proceedings
    fare far worse than represented children. With counsel,
    children are nearly five times more likely to secure
    immigration benefits. From 2005 to 2014, only 10% of
    unrepresented children concluded their proceedings with an
    order permitting them to remain in the U.S., compared to
    47% of represented children. 4 Transactional Records
    Access Clearinghouse, New Data on Unaccompanied
    Children in Immigration Court, Table 5 (July 15, 2014),
    http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/359/. The disparity
    4
    Courts have looked to statistics in recognizing a right to counsel in
    the past. See In re 
    Gault, 387 U.S. at 22
    .
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                      27
    in outcomes for represented and unrepresented children was
    growing before the present administration. From 2012–
    2014, only 15% of unaccompanied children without an
    attorney were able to legally remain in the U.S., compared
    to 73% who had an attorney. Transactional Records Access
    Clearinghouse, Representation for Unaccompanied
    Children in Immigration Court (Nov. 25, 2014),
    http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/371/.
    CJ’s own case serves as an example. He was denied
    relief despite having plausible asylum, withholding of
    removal, and CAT claims that counsel could have
    developed, in addition to seeking a continuance to pursue SIJ
    status, as the majority explains. To start, with respect to his
    asylum, withholding of removal, and CAT claims, CJ has a
    strong argument that he suffered past persecution because he
    was threatened multiple times, including once with a pistol
    pointed at his head. See Ruano v. Ashcroft, 
    301 F.3d 1155
    ,
    1160 (9th Cir. 2002) (finding past persecution where
    immigrant was “closely confronted” by men he knew to be
    armed). That the threats were perpetrated by gang members
    does not foreclose the possibility of immigration relief. See
    Henriquez-Rivas v. Holder, 
    707 F.3d 1081
    , 1083 (9th Cir.
    2013) (holding that witnesses who testify against gang
    members may constitute a particular social group). CJ’s
    hearing testimony, which the IJ found credible, was brief.
    With a more fully developed record, it could become clearer
    whether the persecution was based on a protected status. See
    Lacsina Pangilinan v. Holder, 
    568 F.3d 708
    , 709 (9th Cir.
    2009) (noting that “simply asking the alien whether he has
    ‘anything to add in support of his claim’” is insufficient
    record development (quoting 
    Colmenar, 210 F.3d at 972
    )).
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    As amici, former IJs insist that the statistical data is not
    random, and the presence of counsel results in the different
    outcomes:
    In amici’s experience, only counsel can
    provide the time, commitment, and expertise
    to develop a child’s case such that a full and
    fair hearing consistently takes place. And as
    amici observed every day from the bench, all
    else being equal, professional representation
    is the single largest factor in whether a minor
    successfully navigates the immigration court
    process.
    Amicus Curiae Brief of Former Federal Immigration Judges
    at 12.
    And this makes sense. “A child’s age is far more than a
    chronological fact.” J.D.B. v. North Carolina, 
    564 U.S. 261
    ,
    272 (2011) (quotation omitted) (holding that a child’s age
    informs the Miranda custody analysis). A psychological
    study in the criminal context demonstrates that children,
    compared to adults, have less of an understanding of court
    procedures, their own rights, and the risks of their current
    circumstances, as well as less of an ability to reason about
    relevant information. Amicus Brief of Dr. Jennifer Woolard
    and Dr. Laurence Steinberg at 9 (citing T. Grisso et al.,
    Juveniles’ competence to stand trial: A comparison of
    adolescents’ and adults’ capacities as trial defendants,
    27 Law and Human Behavior 333–63 (2003)). Participants
    ages 15 and younger in such a study performed comparably
    to “adults who are found incompetent to stand trial.” 
    Id. “The child
    requires the guiding hand of counsel at every step
    in the proceedings against him.” In re 
    Gault, 387 U.S. at 36
    (quotation omitted).
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                            29
    Moreover, the law already recognizes that children
    require more procedural protections than adults in
    immigration proceedings. 5 The regulatory framework
    “contemplates that no minor alien under age eighteen should
    be presumed responsible for understanding his rights and
    responsibilities in preparing for and appearing at final
    immigration proceedings.” 
    Flores-Chavez, 362 F.3d at 1157
    . For instance, service on a child, without also serving
    the adult who has custody of the child, is not proper. 
    Id. IJs “shall
    not accept an admission of removability from an
    unrepresented respondent who is incompetent or under the
    age of 18 and is not accompanied by an attorney or legal
    representative, a near relative, legal guardian, or friend.”
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.10(c). Providing children with counsel in
    removal proceedings is the next logical step.
    Turner Factors
    The Turner factors highlight the importance of counsel
    to deportation proceedings for children.
    First, immigration law is exceedingly complex; it has
    been recognized as “second only to the Internal Revenue
    Code in complexity.” Castro-O’Ryan v. I.N.S., 
    847 F.2d 1307
    , 1312 (9th Cir. 1987) (quotation omitted); see also
    Dep’t of Justice, Immigration Court Practice Manual
    5
    The government points out that the Supreme Court has found
    unrepresented children capable of waiving their rights in other contexts.
    Reno v. Flores, 
    507 U.S. 292
    , 309 (1993) (waiving right to a custody
    hearing before an IJ); Fare v. Michael C., 
    442 U.S. 707
    , 724–27 (1979)
    (waiving right against self-incrimination in criminal cases). However,
    when analyzing a waiver of the right to counsel in a removal hearing,
    this court factors “the minor’s age, intelligence, education, information,
    and understanding and ability to comprehend” into its analysis. Jie 
    Lin, 377 F.3d at 1033
    .
    30                    C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    (2018),     https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1084851/
    download (underscoring the complexity of pro se
    representation in immigration proceedings by taking nearly
    thirty pages to explain immigration court filings and nearly
    forty pages to explain a hearing before an IJ, while still not
    serving “in any way, [as a] substitute for a careful study of
    the pertinent laws and regulations”).          Asylum and
    withholding claims that involve proving persecution on
    account of a particular social group are complicated for
    lawyers and courts, let alone children. See 
    Reyes-Palacios, 836 F.2d at 1155
    (“The importance of counsel, particularly
    in asylum cases where the law is complex and developing,
    can neither be overemphasized nor ignored.”). Second, there
    is an asymmetry of counsel, as trained government attorneys
    serve as prosecutors in every removal case. See 
    Turner, 564 U.S. at 447
    (recognizing that an “asymmetry of
    representation” can “alter significantly the nature of the
    proceeding” (quotation omitted)). Third, as explained
    below, substitute procedural safeguards, such as the right to
    retain private counsel, the IJ’s duty to develop the record,
    and the presence of a parent, are inadequate.
    Existing Procedures
    Under existing procedures, an immigrant has “the
    privilege” of being represented by counsel of his choosing,
    at no expense to the government.                 8 U.S.C.
    § 1229a(b)(4)(A). An IJ must explain hearing procedures
    and, where the immigrant is pro se, “fully develop the
    record.” Agyeman v. I.N.S., 
    296 F.3d 871
    , 877 (9th Cir.
    2002) (quoting Jacinto v. I.N.S., 
    208 F.3d 725
    , 733–34 (9th
    Cir. 2000)). The IJ must also “inform immigrants of any
    ability to apply for relief from removal and the right to
    appeal removal orders.” 
    J.E.F.M., 837 F.3d at 1036
    –37
    (citation omitted). And, in CJ’s case, he was not alone
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                             31
    because he had his mother’s assistance. These procedures
    are a start, but they are not enough.
    First, the privilege of paying for counsel or luck of
    acquiring pro bono counsel is not a substitute for a right to
    counsel in removal proceedings. Immigrants in removal
    proceedings have a right to retain counsel, and the IJ must
    advise immigrants of this right and the availability of pro
    bono legal services. 8 C.F.R. § 1240.10(a). But the ability
    to pay for counsel is little solace to an indigent child.
    The list of pro bono attorneys the IJ provides cannot fill
    the need for counsel. Between 2005 and 2014, IJs issued
    decisions in almost 30,000 cases where children did not
    have counsel. Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse,
    New Data on Unaccompanied Children in Immigration
    Court, Table 5 (July 15, 2014), http://trac.syr.edu/
    immigration/reports/359/.     CJ’s experience bore this
    problem out; his mother Maria indicated she tried to find
    counsel to no avail. 6 See Amicus Curiae Brief of Former
    Federal Immigration Judges at 19 (former IJ amici noting
    that CJ was in a “better” position than most children to
    obtain pro bono counsel and was still unable to do so).
    Second, an IJ is not a substitute for counsel in removal
    proceedings. IJs are tasked with ensuring a modicum of due
    process in immigration proceedings in various ways, such as
    by developing the record themselves or by granting
    continuances for counsel to develop the record. These
    6
    That CJ was able to obtain appellate counsel is inapposite.
    Appellate counsel cannot develop the record in immigration
    proceedings. See 8 C.F.R. § 1003.1(d)(3)(iv). A reviewing court cannot
    conduct factfinding outside of the administrative record. Fisher v. I.N.S.,
    
    79 F.3d 955
    , 963 (9th Cir. 1996). An inadequate record may lead to the
    expulsion of children from this country who could otherwise have
    obtained relief with a more robust record.
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    safeguards have never been a substitute for counsel and
    recent developments in immigration law have undermined
    them further.
    IJs are “neutral fact-finder[s].” Reyes-Melendez v. INS,
    
    342 F.3d 1001
    , 1008 (9th Cir. 2003). But immigration
    “proceedings are adversarial in nature.” 
    Jacinto, 208 F.3d at 733
    . While IJs “are obligated to fully develop the record”
    where an immigrant appears without counsel, 
    id. at 734,
    the
    IJ cannot be a child’s advocate, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.101(b)(8).
    An IJ is ethically bound to “act impartially and not give
    preferential treatment to any . . . individual.” 
    Id. Moreover, the
    volume of cases on an IJ’s docket severely limits the
    IJ’s capacity to develop the record.              The former
    Attorney General asked each IJ to complete “at least 700
    cases a year.” Jeff Sessions, Attorney General, Remarks to
    the Executive Office for Immigration Review Legal
    Training Program in Washington, D.C. (June 11, 2018)
    (remarks      available    at     https://www.justice.gov/opa/
    speech/attorney-general-sessions-delivers-remarks-executive-
    office-immigration-review-legal). Recently, by vacating a
    BIA decision that required a full evidentiary hearing for an
    asylum-seeker, the Attorney General signaled to IJs that they
    need not develop the record beyond merely asking whether
    information in the asylum application is true and correct.
    Matter of E-F-H-L-, 27 I. & N. Dec. 226 (A.G. 2018),
    vacating 26 I. & N. Dec. 319 (BIA 2014); but see Lacsina
    
    Pangilinan, 568 F.3d at 709
    . Given this enormous
    workload, the idea that every unrepresented child in
    immigration proceedings will have a full and fair hearing at
    which the IJ develops the record strains credulity. Nor is
    record development at a hearing the only role of an attorney.
    See Jie 
    Lin, 377 F.3d at 1024
    –25 (discussing how an
    effective attorney would investigate factual and legal bases
    for a claim before the hearing).
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                              33
    Third, parents are not a substitute for counsel in removal
    proceedings. “It goes without saying that it is not in the
    interest of minors or incompetents that they be represented
    by non-attorneys. Where they have claims that require
    adjudication, they are entitled to trained legal assistance so
    their rights may be fully protected.” Johns v. Cty. of San
    Diego, 
    114 F.3d 874
    , 876–77 (9th Cir. 1997) (quoting Osei-
    Afriyie v. Medical College, 
    937 F.2d 876
    , 882–83 (3d. Cir.
    1991) (refusing to allow a parent to bring an action on behalf
    of his child without retaining a lawyer)); see also Franco-
    Gonzales v. Holder, 
    828 F. Supp. 2d 1133
    , 1147 (C.D. Cal.
    2011) (holding that the father of a mentally incompetent
    immigration detainee could not serve as his representative at
    a custody hearing because he “lacks adequate knowledge,
    information, and experience in immigration law and
    procedure.” (internal quotation omitted)). 7
    7
    The government argues that parents are helpful in court
    proceedings.     Acknowledging parents’ lack of knowledge of
    immigration law here, however, does not conflict with other situations
    where parents could be helpful to the proceedings. See e.g., Heller v.
    Doe, 
    509 U.S. 312
    , 331 (1993) (recognizing that parents have
    information valuable to the court in commitment proceedings for
    mentally disabled people). Nor does acknowledging that parents may
    not be knowledgeable of immigration law contradict cases cited by the
    government concerning the rights of parents to make decisions about the
    care and custody of their children. Troxel v. Granville, 
    530 U.S. 57
    , 66
    (2000) (recognizing the right of a parent to make choices about certain
    individuals’ visitation to her children); United States v. Casasola,
    
    670 F.3d 1023
    , 1029 (9th Cir. 2012) (noting that parents may make
    decisions about naturalizing their child). It also is bizarre to argue that a
    parent representative serves the best interests of her child in a case like
    CJ’s where the parent did not choose to represent her child, but was
    forced to by indigence and did so only after expressing a desire for
    counsel for her child.
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    Categorically, not all children in immigration court will
    be with a parent, but CJ’s case demonstrates how even a
    well-meaning parent cannot act as a lawyer. 8 Maria did not
    understand all of the IJ’s instructions or questions. She
    submitted an asylum application replete with errors and
    garbled language. And she neither asked CJ questions to
    develop the record, nor submitted any evidence other than
    CJ’s birth certificate. The IJ never gave CJ the opportunity
    to waive his right to counsel or weigh in on whether he
    wanted Maria to represent him. See Jie 
    Lin, 377 F.3d at 1032
    –33 (looking for record evidence that the child in
    deportation proceedings “knowingly and intelligently
    waived his Fifth Amendment right to counsel, particularly in
    light of the added protections he is due as a minor”). Further,
    it is possible that the presence of a parent could diminish the
    fairness of a hearing under circumstances where the child
    was less willing to share critical information in the presence
    of his parent, such as if the child faced persecution on the
    basis of a sexual orientation that was contrary to his parent’s
    8
    Where a child accompanies a parent seeking refugee or asylee
    status, they usually may apply for legal status together. In such
    a situation, the child seeks “derivative” status of the parent. See
    Dep’t of Homeland Sec’y, Form I-589 Instructions (2017); U.S.
    Citizenship and Immigration Servs., Obtaining Derivative Refugee or
    Asylee Status for Children, https://my.uscis.gov/exploremyoptions/
    obtain_refugee_asylum_status_for_children (last updated Jan. 28,
    2019). That was not the case here; CJ was not a derivative of his
    mother’s asylum application. CJ was in a separate asylum proceeding
    and filed his own application, with the help of his mother and possibly a
    notario. See American Bar Ass’n, About Notario Fraud (July 19, 2018),
    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_services/immigration/proje
    cts_initiatives/fight-notario-fraud/about_notario_fraud/.    I do not
    consider the right to counsel for children who are eligible to apply for
    asylum as the derivative of a parent or relative.
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                     35
    religious beliefs. See Amicus Curiae Brief of Former
    Federal Immigration Judges at 17–18.
    The presence of a parent at a child’s immigration
    proceedings does not overcome the asymmetry of counsel
    problem and is not an adequate substitute safeguard. See
    
    Turner, 564 U.S. at 446
    –47.
    ***
    At bottom, the risk of error in a removal proceeding
    where an unrepresented child is seeking relief is high. A
    child faces a maze of exceedingly complex laws in a foreign
    country and foreign language. The proceedings are lopsided
    because the government is represented. And the abstract
    possibility of finding or affording private counsel, the
    record-development duty of neutral IJs, and the chance that
    a child will have an adult who does not understand
    immigration law with him, all fail as procedural safeguards.
    C.
    The third Mathews factor requires consideration of the
    burdens that requiring government-funded counsel for
    indigent children may place on the administrative process.
    “[C]onserving scarce fiscal and administrative resources is a
    factor that must be weighed,” but “[f]inancial cost alone is
    not a controlling weight in determining whether due process
    requires a particular procedural safeguard prior to some
    administrative decision.” 
    Mathews, 424 U.S. at 348
    . The
    government also has an interest in fair proceedings and
    correct decisions. 
    Lassiter, 452 U.S. at 27
    –28; Flores-
    
    Chavez, 362 F.3d at 1162
    (recognizing that it is a “great
    benefit” to the government to have children attend their
    removal proceedings rather than be ordered removed in
    absentia).
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    Undoubtedly, providing counsel to immigrant children at
    government expense would be costly.              Notably, the
    government already chooses to spend money on attorneys to
    prosecute children in removal proceedings. An attorney
    representing the government was present at all five of CJ’s
    hearings in immigration court—and an earlier hearing for
    which the IJ had not provided CJ notice. At each hearing,
    there was a different government attorney. In other words,
    the government has chosen to spend money on multiple
    attorneys learning the case file of and prosecuting one
    immigrant child. Further still, the government continued to
    pour resources into arguing that CJ has no right to counsel in
    a BIA appeal, argument before a three-judge panel of this
    court, and argument before this en banc court, which, at the
    end of the day, corrects a due process violation that may have
    been prevented had CJ been provided counsel in
    immigration court in the first instance.
    Providing counsel would be costly to the government,
    but the government already chooses to undertake similar
    costs here. 9 It would also lead to fairer, more accurate
    9
    In addition to funding government prosecutors in removal
    proceedings, the federal government also chooses to fund attorneys for
    some immigrants in some proceedings. For example, the National
    Qualified Representative Program provides representation to
    unrepresented and detained mentally incompetent individuals and the
    Baltimore Representation Initiative for Unaccompanied Children “funds
    direct representation in immigration proceedings at the Baltimore
    Immigration Court for unaccompanied children under age 16 and whose
    cases are not joined with an adult’s (regardless of the child’s eligibility
    for immigration relief).” Department of Justice, Federal Agency
    Resources (Oct. 24, 2018), https://www.justice.gov/olp/federal-agency-
    resources (describing federal grant programs “and other Federal
    resources”). In J.E.F.M., we recognized projects “the Executive ha[d]
    taken” to confront the lack of legal representation for children including
    awarding $1.8 million to 100 legal fellows to represent children in
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                         37
    decisions—decisions that a broader public might view as
    more legitimate. The third factor in the Mathews test
    therefore points both directions. To the extent this factor
    favors the government, it cannot balance the scales weighed
    down with children’s liberty interests and a high risk of
    error.
    D.
    Finally, the outcome of the Mathews analysis must be
    weighed against a presumption that the right to appointed
    counsel is only afforded to individuals whose “physical
    liberty” is at risk if they lose. 
    Lassiter, 452 U.S. at 26
    –27.
    Here, that outcome, especially given the strength of the first
    and second factors, overcomes the Lassiter presumption.
    Sending child asylum-seekers back to hostile
    environments where they may have experienced persecution
    implicates a forceful liberty interest. In CJ’s case, for
    example, his physical liberty is at risk—not because of
    incarceration—but because of the death threat and other
    threats of violence made against him. CJ credibly testified
    that gang members pointed a pistol to his forehead, said he
    had one day to decide whether to join them, and that if he
    told his mother—as he evidently did before fleeing with
    her—they would kill him.
    Moreover, the disparity of outcomes between children
    who are represented and those who are not represents an
    unconscionable risk of error. As diligent as IJs are, they
    cannot be the children’s advocates and, as former IJs have
    removal proceedings through the Justice AmeriCorps 
    program. 837 F.3d at 1040
    –41 (citation omitted).
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    said, there is no substitute for counsel. See Amicus Curiae
    Brief of Former Federal Immigration Judges at 12, 16.
    IV.
    Children do not need to be “left to thread their way alone
    through the labyrinthine maze of immigration laws.”
    
    J.E.F.M., 837 F.3d at 1040
    (McKeown, J., specially
    concurring). In fact, due process prohibits this reality. I
    would recognize a due process right to counsel for indigent
    children in removal proceedings. Based on the record
    presented, I would limit the class of indigent children under
    18 who are required appointed counsel to those who are
    seeking asylum, withholding of removal, CAT, or another
    form of relief for which they are apparently eligible, such as
    SIJ status. As the Supreme Court said when recognizing a
    right to appointed counsel for children in another context,
    “[u]nder our Constitution, the condition of being a boy does
    not justify a kangaroo court.” In re 
    Gault, 387 U.S. at 28
    .
    BERZON, Circuit Judge, concurring in part and concurring
    in the judgment:
    I concur in the majority’s opinion and also join Judge
    Paez’s excellent concurrence in full. I wish only to note,
    once again, that consideration of the right to counsel
    question for minors in removal proceedings has been
    unnecessarily hindered by this court’s decisions in an earlier
    case. See J.E.F.M. v. Lynch, 
    837 F.3d 1026
    (9th Cir. 2016),
    reh’g en banc denied, 
    908 F.3d 1157
    (9th Cir. 2018)
    (Berzon, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc).
    J.E.F.M. held, erroneously in my view, that the right to
    counsel question must be considered in a petition for review
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                       39
    from an individual child’s removal proceedings, such as this
    one, and not through a class action filed in the district 
    court. 837 F.3d at 1038
    . But as this case amply demonstrates, a
    more developed factual record than is available here—where
    C.J. had no counsel in his removal proceedings and where
    the Immigration Judge and the Board of Immigration
    Appeals had no jurisdiction over the constitutional due
    process question, see Padilla-Padilla v. Gonzales, 
    463 F.3d 972
    , 977 (9th Cir. 2006)—would have given us more
    information on which to decide whether minors in removal
    proceedings have a right to counsel. Such a record would
    also have aided in deciding whether that right is universal or,
    as Judge Paez suggests, may be limited to certain categories
    of cases, based on such criteria as the claims raised, the age
    of the child, or whether the child is accompanied or not.
    We are not answering any of those questions in this en
    banc proceeding, quite possibly because of qualms
    concerning fashioning the precise parameters of a right to
    counsel for minors in a single case. So we shut one door to
    the courthouse in J.E.F.M. on the promise of keeping
    another open, only to duck out of that door—for now—as
    well.
    CALLAHAN, Circuit Judge, joined by IKUTA, Circuit
    Judge, dissenting:
    The majority commendably decides this appeal on a
    narrow issue. Unfortunately, it requires more of the
    Immigration Judge (IJ) than is required or appropriate, and
    accordingly, I must dissent.
    As noted by the majority, an IJ is required to inform an
    alien seeking relief from removal of his “apparent eligibility
    40                        C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    to apply for any benefits enumerated in this chapter.”
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2). The majority then concludes that
    because the “information presented during CJ’s proceedings
    made it reasonably plausible that he could establish
    eligibility for SIJ status,” Maj. Op. at 12, the IJ failed to
    provide “the required advice,” and the appropriate remedy is
    to grant the petition for review, reverse the BIA’s dismissal
    of the appeal, and remand for a new hearing. See Maj Op. at
    15. The asserted remedy flows from the premise, but the
    premise is a step too far. I would hold that the information
    presented at CJ’s hearing before the IJ did not create a
    reasonable possibility that CJ qualified for relief.
    An IJ “shall inform the alien of his or her apparent
    eligibility to apply for any of the benefits enumerated in this
    chapter and shall afford the alien an opportunity to make
    application during the hearing, in accordance with the
    provisions of § 1240.8(d).” 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2). 1 We
    1
    It is far from clear that “SIJ status” (which the majority uses to
    refer to the criteria required for an alien to be deemed a “special
    immigrant” under 8 C.F.R. § 204.11 and U.S.C. § 1101(a)(27)(J)),
    constitutes one “of the benefits enumerated in this chapter” for purposes
    of 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2). The regulation at issue, 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11,
    is contained in Chapter V, “Executive Office for Immigration Review,”
    which establishes a number of immigration benefits, including asylum,
    withholding of removal, adjustment of status, and temporary protected
    status. However, the regulatory section that explains special immigrant
    status, 8 C.F.R. § 204.11, is contained in Chapter I, Department of
    Homeland Security. In other words, special immigrant status is not a
    benefit of the chapter at issue in § 1240.11(a)(2).
    Moreover, special immigrant status is not analogous to the
    immigration benefits described in Chapter V. Each of those benefits are
    forms of relief from removal. By contrast, a determination that an alien
    qualifies for special immigrant status provides no relief itself. Rather,
    the alien who qualifies for SIJ status can then seek relief from removal
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                              41
    have held that this is a mandatory duty: “if an IJ fails to
    advise an alien of an avenue of relief potentially available to
    him, we will remand for consideration of the alien’s
    eligibility for that relief.” Moran-Enriquez v. INS, 
    884 F.2d 420
    , 423 (9th Cir. 1989); United States v. Hernandez,
    
    163 F.3d 559
    , 563 (9th Cir. 1998) (holding that “[t]his
    provision is mandatory”). However,
    IJs are not expected to be clairvoyant; the
    record before them must fairly raise the issue:
    “‘Until the [alien] himself or some other
    person puts information before the judge that
    makes such eligibility “apparent,” this duty
    does not come into play.’” Bu Roe v. INS,
    
    771 F.2d 1328
    , 1334 (9th Cir.1985) (quoting
    United States v. Barraza-Leon, 
    575 F.2d 218
    ,
    222 (9th Cir. 1978)).
    
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.2d at 423
    . Moreover, as we have
    explained, “an IJ’s duty is limited to informing an alien of a
    reasonable possibility that the alien is eligible for relief at
    the time of the hearing,” or, in some narrow circumstances,
    where the alien may become eligible imminently. United
    States v. Lopez-Velasquez, 
    629 F.3d 894
    , 895 (9th Cir.
    2010).
    The majority assumes that § 1240.11(a)(2) applies to SIJ
    status and then asserts that a failure to advise about SIJ status
    can only be excused when the petitioner’s eligibility is not
    by applying for adjustment of status. 8 U.S.C. 1255(a). The alien can
    obtain relief only if “the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and
    is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and an
    immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application
    is filed.”
    42                          C.J.L.G. V. BARR
    “plausible.” They then opine that “Maria’s comment that
    CJ’s father left her ‘a long time ago,’ and CJ’s statement that
    he had no paternal contact for ‘many years’ demonstrated
    that reunification with one parent might be impossible ‘due
    to . . . abandonment.’” Maj. Op. at 12. Perhaps reunification
    with CJ’s father was extremely unlikely, but that was not the
    issue before the IJ.
    Reasonableness or plausibility should be considered in a
    particular context. 2 The applicable statute, 8 U.S.C.
    1101(a)(27)(J)(i), sets forth three requirements that CJ
    cannot reasonably or plausibly meet. First, the statute
    requires that the petitioner “has been declared dependent on
    a juvenile court located in the United States or whom such a
    court has legally committed to, or placed under the custody
    2
    The majority’s invocation of the term “plausible” from our opinion
    in United States v. Rojas-Pedroza, 
    716 F.3d 1253
    , 1265–67 (9th Cir.
    2013), should not be read as an expansion of the “reasonable possibility”
    standard set forth in 
    Moran-Enriquez, 884 F.3d at 423
    . In Rojas-
    Pedroza, we explained that the standard for relief due to an IJ’s failure
    to inform a petitioner of apparent eligibility for relief has two steps: first,
    is the petitioner’s eligibility of relief “apparent”; and second, was the
    petitioner prejudiced by the failure? Rojas-Pedroza, 
    716 F.3d 1262
    –63.
    We reiterated our prior statement that “apparent eligibility” means
    “where the record, fairly reviewed by an individual who is intimately
    familiar with the immigration laws—as IJs no doubt are—raises a
    reasonable possibility that the petitioner may be eligible for relief.” 
    Id. (quoting United
    States v. 
    Lopez-Velasquez, 629 F.3d at 897
    ).
    Recognizing some ambiguity as to whether Rojas “had apparent
    eligibility for relief,” we focused on the second component: prejudice.
    In the context of whether Rojas had established a plausible case for
    discretionary relief by the IJ, we concluded in light of his immigration
    record and prior convictions he had “failed to carry his burden of
    establishing plausible grounds for relief.” 
    Rojas-Pedroza, 716 F.3d at 1266
    –67. Thus, nothing in Rojas-Pedroza suggests that a petitioner
    does not have to show a “reasonable possibility” that he is apparently
    eligible for relief.
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                      43
    of, an agency or department of a State, or an individual or
    entity appointed by a State or juvenile court located in the
    United States.” 
    Id. (emphasis added).
    Here, at the time of
    his immigration hearing, CJ had not been declared a
    dependent by any court in the United States or placed in
    custody by any court. Indeed, he had not even commenced
    any such proceeding in any court.
    Second, the statute, requires that the juvenile’s
    “reunification with 1 or both of the immigrant’s parents is
    not viable due to abuse, neglect, abandonment, or a similar
    basis found under State law.” 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(27)(J)(i).
    If this statute is read to require a showing that reunification
    with neither parent is viable, then there was no possibility of
    CJ meeting the requirement. He has always been in his
    mother’s custody and care. If the statute is read to require
    only a showing that reunification with one of two parents is
    not viable, then CJ could meet this requirement. However,
    he still could not have shown that any court had declared him
    a dependent.
    Third, the statute requires that “the Secretary of
    Homeland Security consents to the grant of special
    immigrant juvenile status.” 
    Id. § 1101(a)(27)(J).
    Although
    neither the statute nor the regulations provides much
    guidance on what is required for consent, the USCIS has
    promulgated a policy manual, which provides that before
    consenting, USCIS must review the juvenile court order to
    conclude that the request for SIJ classification is bona fide.
    See USCIS Policy Manual, vol. 6, pt. J, ch. 2, D.5. (May 23,
    2018); 76 Fed. Reg. 54978, 54985 (Sept. 6, 2011). The
    USCIS will not give its consent if the juvenile court order
    was sought primarily or solely to obtain an immigration
    benefit. See USCIS Policy Manual, vol. 6, pt. J, ch. 2, D.5.
    Here, the record indicates that the alien’s mother would seek
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    to have CJ placed under her custody solely for the purpose
    of seeking SIJ status and adjustment of status to avoid
    deportation.
    The majority’s application of the reasonable or plausible
    standard overlooks the statute’s three requirements. First,
    the majority overlooks the requirement that to be eligible for
    SIJ status, a state court must have declared the applicant a
    dependent, and thus imposes an unreasonable burden on IJs.
    The majority tasks the IJ with predicting not whether it is
    plausible that were CJ to apply to a state court he might
    obtain relief, but whether it was “reasonably possible at the
    time of CJ’s hearing that he could obtain SIJ status.” Maj.
    Op. at 13. But this would require that IJs have an intimate
    knowledge of state law. Moreover, in CJ’s case—aside from
    immigration proceedings—there was no apparent need or
    reason for CJ to invoke any state’s dependency proceedings
    as he was at all times in his mother’s custody and care. 3
    Indeed, at the time of CJ’s hearing before the IJ it was
    not clear whether California courts would consider a child’s
    request for SIJ findings. It was not until 2018 that the
    California Supreme Court clarified that “a conclusion that a
    proceeding is primarily motivated by a desire to secure SIJ
    3
    The fact that CJ has subsequently obtained a state-court order and
    has filed a petition with the United States Citizenship and Immigration
    Services speaks well of his attorneys. But his success does not change
    the fact that when CJ appeared before the IJ with his mother, there was
    no reasonable possibility, under the controlling legislation, that he was
    eligible for immigration relief.
    C.J.L.G. V. BARR                             45
    findings is not a ground for declining to issue the findings.”
    Bianka M. v. Superior Court, 
    5 Cal. 5th
    1004, 1025 (2018). 4
    The majority also overlooks the consent requirement.
    The state court’s dependency determination is not
    controlling. Even after obtaining such an order, the alien
    must file a petition with the USCIS, and the Secretary of
    Homeland Security must consent to the grant of special
    immigrant juvenile status. As noted above, it is far from
    clear that the Secretary would give such consent.
    Finally, the majority overlooks the fact that even after
    obtaining such consent, the alien must then seek relief from
    removal by applying for adjustment of status. 8 U.S.C.
    § 1255(a). The alien is not eligible for such relief unless “an
    immigrant visa is immediately available to [the petitioner] at
    the time his application is filed.” The record does not show
    that an immigrant visa is available to CJ. And even then, the
    IJ must determine whether to grant relief as a matter of
    discretion. See 
    id. In sum,
    the IJ was required to inform CJ only of his
    “apparent eligibility to apply for any benefits enumerated in
    this chapter,” 8 C.F.R. § 1240.11(a)(2), “at the time of the
    hearing.” 
    Lopez-Velasquez, 629 F.3d at 895
    . Even assuming
    that SIJ status is a “benefit” contemplated by this regulation,
    there was no such “apparent eligibility” at the time of the
    hearing here. CJ had not commenced any proceeding in a
    juvenile court, nor demonstrated any need or reason to do so.
    Nor was there any evidence indicating whether the Secretary
    4
    The California Supreme Court further noted that “the Legislature
    in 2016 amended Code of Civil Procedure section 155 to make clear that
    a court must issue findings relevant to SIJ status, if factually supported,
    regardless of its assessment of the child’s perceived motivations in
    invoking the court’s jurisdiction.” 
    Id. at 1024.
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    of Homeland Security would consent to an application by
    CJ, or that a visa was immediately available. In sum, at the
    time of the hearing, CJ had no apparent eligibility for
    benefits.
    The majority’s empathy for CJ is understandable, but
    does not, in my mind, justify defining “apparent eligibility”
    so broadly as to require IJs to advise petitioners of potential
    avenues of relief for which they are not yet (and may never
    be) statutorily eligible. Accordingly, I dissent.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 16-73801

Citation Numbers: 923 F.3d 622

Filed Date: 5/3/2019

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 5/3/2019

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