Zayn Al-Abidin Husayn v. United States ( 2019 )


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  •                     FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    ZAYN AL-ABIDIN MUHAMMAD                         No. 18-35218
    HUSAYN; JOSEPH MARGULIES,
    Petitioners-Appellants,               D.C. No.
    2:17-cv-00171-
    v.                              JLQ
    JAMES ELMER MITCHELL; JOHN
    JESSEN,                                           OPINION
    Respondents,
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    Intervenor-Appellee.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Washington
    Justin L. Quackenbush, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted March 5, 2019
    Seattle, Washington
    Filed September 18, 2019
    Before: Ronald M. Gould and Richard A. Paez, Circuit
    Judges, and Dean D. Pregerson, * District Judge.
    *
    The Honorable Dean D. Pregerson, United States District Judge
    for the Central District of California, sitting by designation.
    2                  HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    Opinion by Judge Paez;
    Dissent by Judge Gould
    SUMMARY **
    State Secrets Privilege / Subpoena
    The panel reversed the district court’s order quashing a
    subpoena sought by Abu Zubaydah, who is currently held at
    the U.S. detention facility in the Guantanamo Bay Naval
    Base in Cuba, and his attorney (“Petitioners”), and
    dismissing the case in its entirety.
    Petitioners filed an ex parte application for discovery
    pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782, and sought an order to
    subpoena James Elmer Mitchell and John Jessen for their
    depositions for use in an ongoing criminal investigation in
    Poland about the torture to which Abu Zubaydah was
    subjected in that country. The district court originally
    granted the discovery application, but subsequently quashed
    the subpoenas after the U.S. government intervened and
    asserted the state secrets privilege.
    The panel agreed with the district court that certain
    information requested was not privileged because it was not
    a state secret that would pose an exceptionally grave risk to
    national security. The panel agreed that the government’s
    assertion of the state secrets privilege was valid over much
    of the information requested. The panel concluded,
    however, that the district court erred in quashing the
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    subpoenas in toto rather than attempting to disentangle
    nonprivileged from privileged information. The panel
    remanded for further proceedings.
    Judge Gould dissented, and would affirm the district
    court. Judge Gould would defer to the view of then-CIA
    Director and current Secretary of State Michael Pompeo that
    the disclosure of secret information in this proceeding
    “reasonably could be expected to cause serious, and in many
    instances, exceptionally grave damage to U.S. national
    security.”
    COUNSEL
    David F. Klein (argued) and John Chamberlain, Pillsbury
    Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, Washington, D.C.; Jerry
    Moberg, Jerry Moberg & Associates, Ephrata, Washington;
    for Petitioners-Appellants.
    H. Thomas Byron III (argued), Appellate Staff; Joseph H.
    Harrington, United States Attorney; Civil Division, United
    States Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; for
    Intervenor-Appellee.
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    OPINION
    PAEZ, Circuit Judge:
    Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn (“Abu Zubaydah”) 1
    is currently held at the U.S. detention facility in the
    Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba. Abu Zubaydah was
    formerly detained as part of the Central Intelligence Agency
    (“CIA”)’s detention and interrogation program, also
    commonly known as the post-9/11 “enhanced interrogation”
    or torture program. In 2017, Abu Zubaydah and his attorney,
    Joseph Margulies (collectively “Petitioners”), filed an ex
    parte application for discovery pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782,
    which permits certain domestic discovery for use in foreign
    proceedings. They sought an order to subpoena James Elmer
    Mitchell and John Jessen for their depositions for use in an
    ongoing criminal investigation in Poland about the torture to
    which Abu Zubaydah was subjected in that country. The
    district court originally granted the discovery application,
    but subsequently quashed the subpoenas after the U.S.
    government intervened and asserted the state secrets
    privilege.
    The Supreme Court has long recognized that in
    exceptional circumstances, courts must act in the interest of
    the country’s national security to prevent the disclosure of
    state secrets by excluding privileged evidence from the case
    and, in some instances, dismissing the case entirely. See
    Totten v. United States, 
    92 U.S. 105
    (1875); see also United
    States v. Reynolds, 
    345 U.S. 1
    (1953). This appeal presents
    a narrow but important question: whether the district court
    1
    Abu Zubaydah’s birth name was Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad
    Husayn but he is known as Abu Zubaydah in litigation and public
    records.
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    erred in quashing the subpoenas after concluding that not all
    the discovery sought was subject to the state secrets
    privilege.
    We have jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1291, and
    we reverse. We agree with the district court that certain
    information requested is not privileged because it is not a
    state secret that would pose an exceptionally grave risk to
    national security. We also agree that the government’s
    assertion of the state secrets privilege is valid over much of
    the information requested. We conclude, however, that the
    district court erred in quashing the subpoenas in toto rather
    than attempting to disentangle nonprivileged from
    privileged information.
    We have “emphasize[d] that it should be a rare case
    when the state secrets doctrine leads to dismissal at the outset
    of a case.” Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc., 
    614 F.3d 1070
    , 1092 (2010) (en banc); see also 
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 9
    –10 (noting that “[j]udicial control over the evidence in
    a case cannot be abdicated to the caprice of executive
    officers”). Here, the underlying proceeding is a limited
    discovery request that can be managed by the district court,
    which is obligated “to use its fact-finding and other tools to
    full advantage before it concludes that the rare step of
    dismissal is justified.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1093
    . We
    therefore reverse the district court’s judgment dismissing
    Petitioners’ section 1782 application for discovery and
    remand for further proceedings. 2
    2
    Because the district court granted the motion to quash based on the
    state secrets privilege, it did not address the government’s alternative
    arguments under the Central Intelligence Agency Act, 50 U.S.C. § 3507,
    and the National Security Act, 50 U.S.C. § 3024(i). If relevant, the
    district court may consider these arguments on remand.
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    I.
    A.
    In late March 2002, Pakistani government authorities,
    working with the CIA, captured Abu Zubaydah in Pakistan.
    At the time, Abu Zubaydah was thought to be a high-level
    member of Al-Qa’ida 3 with detailed knowledge of terrorist
    plans. A 2014 report by the Senate Select Committee on
    Intelligence Study on the CIA’s detention and interrogation
    program (“Senate Select Committee Report”) later revealed
    this characterization to be erroneous.
    In the first four years of his detention, Abu Zubaydah
    was held as an enemy combatant and transferred to various
    secret CIA “dark sites” for interrogation. Journalists, non-
    governmental organizations, and Polish government
    officials have widely reported that one of those sites was in
    Poland. In 2015, the European Court on Human Rights
    (“ECHR”) found that Abu Zubaydah was detained at a CIA
    site in Poland from December 2002 to September 2003.
    Numerous sources also confirm that Abu Zubaydah was
    subjected to so-called “enhanced interrogation” techniques
    while detained at these CIA sites. These techniques were
    proposed and developed by Mitchell and Jessen, 4 who at that
    3
    For consistency, we employ the spelling used by the Senate Select
    Committee Report in this opinion.
    4
    Mitchell and Jessen are referred to as “SWIGERT” and
    “DUNBAR” in the Senate Select Committee Report, and have admitted
    to their involvement with the CIA program in a separate lawsuit, Salim
    v. Mitchell, No. 2:15-cv-286-JLQ, Answer to Complaint and Affirmative
    Defenses (E.D. Wash. June 16, 2016) (“Salim”).
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    point were independent contractors for the CIA. They
    worked on “novel interrogation methods” intended to break
    down Abu Zubaydah’s resistance, including the use of
    insects—to take advantage of his entomophobia—and mock
    burial. The details of Abu Zubaydah’s treatment during this
    period are uncontroverted: he was persistently and
    repeatedly waterboarded; he spent hundreds of hours in a
    “confinement box,” described as coffin-sized; he was
    subjected to various combinations of interrogation
    techniques including “walling, 5 attention grasps, 6 slapping,
    facial hold, stress positions, cramped confinement, white
    noise and sleep deprivation”; his food intake was
    manipulated to minimize the potential of vomiting during
    waterboarding. To use colloquial terms, as was suggested
    by the Senate Select Committee Report, Abu Zubaydah was
    tortured.
    The ECHR found that some of this torture took place in
    Poland. Mitchell and Jessen traveled to the CIA black site
    there at least twice to supervise the interrogations.
    Declassified CIA cables confirm Mitchell’s and Jessen’s
    involvement in Abu Zubaydah’s torture. Abu Zubaydah was
    eventually transferred to a succession of facilities outside of
    Poland before arriving in Guantanamo Bay, where he
    remains today. Abu Zubaydah has allegedly sustained
    permanent brain damage and physical impairments,
    5
    According to a declassified U.S. Department of Justice Office of
    Legal Counsel (“OLC”) memo, “walling” refers to when an individual
    is firmly pushed against a flexible false wall, hitting the shoulder blades,
    to create the sensation of physical impact that is worse than it is.
    6
    The same OLC memo describes “attention grasp” to consist of
    grasping an individual with both hands, one hand on each side of the
    collar opening, in a controlled and quick motion, drawing the individual
    toward the interrogator.
    8               HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    including over 300 seizures in the span of three years and the
    loss of his left eye.
    In 2010, Abu Zubaydah’s attorneys and certain
    humanitarian organizations filed a criminal complaint in
    Poland on his behalf seeking to hold Polish officials
    accountable for their complicity in his unlawful detention
    and torture.      That investigation closed without any
    prosecutions or convictions. In 2013, Abu Zubaydah’s
    attorneys filed an application with the ECHR alleging that
    Poland had violated the Convention for the Protection of
    Human Rights and Fundamental Rights and failed to
    undertake a proper investigation. This resulted in the
    ECHR’s decision in Case of Husayn (Abu Zubaydah) v.
    Poland, No. 7511/13, Eur. Ct. H.R. (2015). The court found
    “beyond reasonable doubt” that Abu Zubaydah was detained
    in Poland, that “the treatment to which [he] was subjected by
    the CIA during his detention in Poland . . . amount[ed] to
    torture,” and that Poland had failed to abide by its
    obligations under the European Convention on Human
    Rights. The court accordingly awarded damages to Abu
    Zubaydah.
    After the ECHR issued its decision—finding, among
    other things, that Poland failed to sufficiently investigate
    human rights violations related to Abu Zubaydah’s treatment
    in Poland—Polish authorities reopened their investigations
    into the violations, focusing on the culpability of Polish
    citizens and government officials in Abu Zubaydah’s
    detention. The Polish government requested evidence from
    the United States through the Mutual Legal Assistance
    Treaty (“MLAT”) between the two countries. The United
    States denied the Polish government’s request.
    Subsequently, Polish prosecutors followed up with Abu
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    Zubaydah’s lawyers to ask for assistance with obtaining
    evidence necessary to pursue the prosecution. 7
    B.
    Abu Zubaydah and his attorney, Margulies, filed an ex
    parte application for discovery in the Eastern District of
    Washington pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782. Section 1782
    provides that “[t]he district court of the district in which a
    person resides or is found may order him to give his
    testimony or statement or to produce a document or other
    thing for use in a proceeding in a foreign or international
    tribunal.” Abu Zubaydah and his attorney sought a
    discovery order subpoenaing Mitchell and Jessen to produce
    documents and give deposition testimony for use in the
    ongoing criminal investigation in Poland.8 They requested
    that Mitchell and Jessen provide, among other related items,
    documents concerning the detention facility in Poland, the
    identities of Polish officials involved in the establishment or
    operation of the detention facility, the use of interrogation
    techniques, conditions of confinement and torture of those
    being held, and any contracts made between Polish
    government officials or private persons residing in Poland
    and U.S. personnel for use of the property upon which the
    detention facilities was located.
    7
    Under Polish law, victims of crimes under investigation, like Abu
    Zubaydah, have a right to submit evidence through counsel to aid in the
    Polish Prosecutor’s Office’s investigation.
    8
    Mitchell and Jessen co-founded Mitchell, Jessen & Associates,
    which is headquartered in Spokane, Washington, and Jessen resides in
    Spokane. Hence, they both “reside[] or [are] found” in the relevant
    district. 28 U.S.C. § 1782.
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    The United States submitted a “Statement of Interest”
    arguing that the district court should not grant Abu
    Zubaydah’s application based on the four factors outlined in
    Intel Corp. v. Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., 
    542 U.S. 241
    (2004). 9 The district court evaluated the section 1782
    application under the Intel factors and found that the Intel
    factors weighed in favor of granting the application for
    discovery.     It noted that the government’s concerns
    regarding privilege and classification of documents were
    hypothetical and could be raised at a later point. The district
    court granted the application and Petitioners served the
    subpoenas on Mitchell and Jessen.
    9
    The four Intel factors are: (1) whether the person from whom
    discovery is sought is a participant in the foreign proceeding; (2) the
    nature of the foreign tribunal, the character of the proceedings underway
    abroad and the receptivity of the foreign government to U.S. federal-
    court assistance; (3) whether the discovery request is an attempt to
    circumvent foreign proof-gathering restrictions or other policies of a
    foreign country or the United States; and, (4) whether the discovery
    request is unduly intrusive or burdensome. 
    Intel, 542 U.S. at 264
    –65.
    The third Intel factor allows the court to consider the potential for abuse
    of discovery for use in the foreign court. 
    Id. at 265.
    “Once the court has
    determined that such abuses are unlikely,” and grants the section 1782
    application, “the ordinary tools of discovery management, including
    [Federal Rule of Civil Procedure] 26, come into play; and with
    objections based on the fact that discovery is being sought for use in a
    foreign court cleared away, section 1782 drops out.” Heraeus Kulzer,
    GmbH v. Biomet, Inc., 
    633 F.3d 591
    , 597 (7th Cir. 2011) (citing
    Ecuadorian Plaintiffs v. Chevron Corp., 
    619 F.3d 373
    , 377–78 (5th Cir.
    2010); Weber v. Finker, 
    554 F.3d 1379
    , 1384–85 (11th Cir. 2009)). In
    other words, once a section 1782 application is granted, the ordinary
    rules of civil procedure relating to discovery shift into place.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                          11
    After Mitchell and Jessen entered their appearance in
    district court, 10 the U.S. government filed a motion to
    intervene and a motion to quash the subpoenas. In support
    of the latter motion, the government made three arguments.
    First, it argued that the district court lacked jurisdiction over
    the case under 28 U.S.C. § 2241(e)(2), which strips
    jurisdiction for courts to hear or consider any nonhabeas
    action against the United States or its agents relating to any
    aspect of the detention, transfer, treatment, trial or conditions
    of confinement of a designated enemy combatant outside the
    provisions of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, 10 U.S.C.
    § 801. Second, the government argued that the discovery
    sought is protected by the state secrets privilege, relying on
    two declarations from then-CIA Director, Michael
    Pompeo. 11 Third, it argued that both the National Security
    Act of 1947 and the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949
    prohibit the discovery sought.
    The district court granted the government’s motion to
    intervene and motion to quash the subpoenas. The court
    rejected the government’s first argument regarding the lack
    of jurisdiction, noting that the government offered nothing
    to establish an agency relationship between Mitchell and
    Jessen and the United States. The court then applied the
    three-part test outlined in 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1080
    , to
    evaluate the government’s assertion of the state secrets
    10
    Neither Mitchell nor Jessen opposed the discovery requested in
    this case and have taken no position on the issues in this appeal.
    11
    Pompeo submitted a declaration addressing Petitioners’ section
    1782 application and incorporated a prior declaration that he submitted
    in the Salim lawsuit.
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    privilege. 12 First, it found that the government had followed
    the procedural requirements for invoking the privilege.
    Second, it concluded that the fact of the CIA’s involvement
    with a facility in Poland was not a state secret that posed an
    exceptionally grave risk to national security. The court
    agreed, however, that other information, such as the roles
    and identities of Polish citizens involved with the CIA site,
    is covered by the state secrets privilege. Third, the court
    concluded that “[m]eaningful discovery cannot proceed in
    this matter without disclosing information that the
    Government contends is subject to the state secrets
    privilege,” and thus it granted the motion to quash the
    subpoenas in their entirety and entered judgment. Abu
    Zubaydah and Margulies timely appealed.
    II.
    “We review de novo the interpretation and application of
    the state secrets doctrine and review for clear error the
    district court’s underlying factual findings.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1077
    (citing Al-Haramain Islamic Found., Inc.
    v. Bush, 
    507 F.3d 1190
    , 1196 (9th Cir. 2007)).
    12
    Although the state secrets doctrine encompasses a complete bar
    under 
    Totten, 92 U.S. at 107
    , and an evidentiary privilege under
    
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 7
    –8, the district court correctly concluded that the
    Totten bar does not apply in this case because the very subject matter of
    the action—the CIA’s enhanced interrogation program—is not a state
    secret. See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1085
    –89 (applying Reynolds privilege
    analysis); see also El-Masri v. United States, 
    479 F.3d 296
    , 307–10 (4th
    Cir. 2007) (same).
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    III.
    Petitioners argue that the district court erred in quashing
    the subpoenas in their entirety based on the state secrets
    privilege. The parties essentially disagree over the proper
    analysis under steps two and three under Reynolds. 13
    A.
    Before reviewing the district court’s decision, we
    provide some brief background on the state secrets privilege.
    The privilege derives from a common law doctrine that
    “encompasses a ‘privilege against revealing military [or
    state] secrets, a privilege which is well established in the law
    of evidence.’” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1079
    (alterations in
    original) (quoting 
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 6
    –7). “The
    privilege is not to be lightly invoked.” 
    Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1196
    . “A successful assertion of privilege under
    Reynolds will remove the privileged evidence from the
    litigation.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1079
    . “Unlike the Totten
    bar, a valid claim of privilege under Reynolds does not
    automatically require dismissal of the case.” 
    Id. Assertion of
    the state secrets privilege “will require dismissal [where]
    it . . . become[s] apparent during the Reynolds analysis that
    13
    We are not persuaded by the government’s alternative argument
    that the district court’s decision can be affirmed as an exercise of
    discretion to deny section 1782 discovery requests. First, the district
    court exercised its discretion to grant the section 1782 application after
    applying the Intel factors. That order is not on appeal. Moreover, the
    order that was appealed was not a discretionary one. The district court
    concluded that it was required by the state secrets privilege to quash the
    subpoenas. The government’s attempt to challenge the district court’s
    first order seeks to avoid the discretion expressly given to district courts
    over section 1782 applications. See 
    Intel, 542 U.S. at 255
    –61 (rejecting
    categorical limitations on section 1782’s reach based on the statute’s text
    and legislative history giving discretion to the district court).
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    the case cannot proceed without privileged evidence, or that
    litigating the case to a judgment on the merits would present
    an unacceptable risk of disclosing state secrets.” 
    Id. The Supreme
    Court identified and applied the state
    secrets privilege in Reynolds, where three estates filed
    wrongful-death suits against the government following the
    untimely deaths of three civilian observers during a test
    flight of a B-29 
    bomber. 345 U.S. at 3
    . In discovery,
    plaintiffs sought production of the Air Force’s official
    accident investigation report and the statements of three
    surviving crew members. 
    Id. The Air
    Force refused to
    produce the materials, citing the need to protect national
    security and military secrets because the aircraft and
    personnel on board “were engaged in a highly secret
    mission,” 
    id. at 4,
    and the material could reveal information
    about the “development of highly technical and secret
    military equipment,” 
    id. at 5.
    The district court ordered the
    government to produce the documents in camera so that the
    court could determine whether they contained privileged
    material. When the government refused, the district court
    imposed sanctions and ruled against the government on the
    issue of negligence. 
    Id. The Court
    of Appeals affirmed. 
    Id. The Supreme
    Court reversed and sustained the
    government’s assertion of privilege after concluding, “from
    all the circumstances of the case, that there [wa]s a
    reasonable danger that compulsion of the evidence will
    expose military matters which, in the interest of national
    security, should not be divulged.” 
    Id. at 10.
    In reaching this
    conclusion, the Court noted “that this is a time of vigorous
    preparation for national defense” and that “air power is one
    of the most potent weapons in [the United States’] scheme
    of defense.” 
    Id. Rather than
    dismissing the case, however,
    the Court noted that it could be possible for the plaintiffs “to
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    adduce the essential facts as to causation [in support of their
    tort claims] without resort to material touching upon military
    secrets,” and remanded for further proceedings. 
    Id. at 11–
    12.
    Based on Reynolds, we identified three steps for
    analyzing claims of the state secrets privilege:
    First, we must ascertain that the procedural
    requirements for invoking the state secrets
    privilege have been satisfied. Second, we
    must make an independent determination
    whether the information is privileged.
    Finally, the ultimate question to be resolved
    is how the matter should proceed in light of
    the successful privilege claim.
    
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1080
    (internal alterations and
    quotation marks omitted) (quoting 
    Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1202
    ). The parties do not contest that the government
    fulfilled the first requirement by filing the declarations from
    then-CIA Director Pompeo, who formally asserted the state
    secrets privilege with specificity in this case. See 
    Reynolds, 245 U.S. at 7
    –8 (“There must be a formal claim of privilege,
    lodged by the head of the department which has control over
    the matter, after actual personal consideration by that
    officer.”). We therefore proceed to the second and third
    steps of the Reynolds test.
    B.
    “When the privilege has been properly invoked, ‘we
    must make an independent determination whether the
    information is privileged.’” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1081
    (quoting 
    Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1202
    ). “The court must
    sustain a claim of privilege when it is satisfied, ‘from all the
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    circumstances of the case, that there is a reasonable danger
    that compulsion of the evidence will expose . . . matters
    which, in the interest of national security, should not be
    divulged.’” 
    Id. (quoting Reynolds,
    345 U.S. at 10). “The
    state secrets privilege has been held to apply to information
    that would result in ‘impairment to the nation’s defense
    capabilities, disclosure of intelligence-gathering methods or
    capabilities, and disruption of diplomatic relations with
    foreign governments, or where disclosure would be inimical
    to national security.’”        Fazaga v. Fed. Bureau of
    Investigation, 
    916 F.3d 1202
    , 1227 (9th Cir. 2019) (quoting
    Black v. United States, 
    62 F.3d 1115
    , 1118 (8th Cir. 1995)).
    We have on more than one occasion commented on the
    difficulty of defining what constitutes a “state secret.” 
    Id. (noting “the
    ambiguity . . . at the outset”); 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082
    (“We do not offer a detailed definition of
    what constitutes a state secret.”).
    Our guidance on evaluating the need for secrecy has
    been contradictory. On the one hand, “we acknowledge the
    need to defer to the Executive on matters of foreign policy
    and national security and surely cannot legitimately find
    ourselves second guessing the Executive in this area.” Al-
    
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    . On the other hand, “the state
    secrets doctrine does not represent a surrender of judicial
    control over access to the courts.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082
    (quoting 
    El-Masri, 479 F.3d at 312
    ). “Rather, ‘to
    ensure that the state secrets privilege is asserted no more
    frequently and sweepingly than necessary, it is essential that
    the courts continue critically to examine instances of its
    invocation.” 
    Id. (quoting Ellsberg
    v. Mitchell, 
    709 F.2d 51
    ,
    58 (D.C. Cir. 1983)). “We take very seriously our obligation
    to review the [claim] with a very careful, indeed a skeptical,
    eye, and not to accept at face value the government’s claim
    or justification of privilege.” Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at
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    1203. For instance, “an executive decision to classify the
    information is insufficient to establish that the information is
    privileged.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082
    (citing 
    Ellsberg, 709 F.2d at 57
    ). “Simply saying ‘military secret,’ ‘national
    security’ or ‘terrorist threat’ or invoking an ethereal fear that
    disclosure will threaten our nation is insufficient to support
    the privilege.” Al-
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    .
    Here, the government asserts the state secrets privilege
    over seven categories of information: (1) information that
    could identify individuals involved in the CIA detention and
    interrogation program; (2) information regarding foreign
    government cooperation with the CIA; (3) information
    pertaining to the operation or location of any clandestine
    overseas CIA station, base, or detention facility;
    (4) information regarding the capture and/or transfer of
    detainees; (5) intelligence information about detainees and
    terrorist organizations, including intelligence obtained or
    discussed in debriefing or interrogation sessions;
    (6) information concerning CIA intelligence sources and
    methods, as well as specific intelligence operations; and,
    (7) information concerning the CIA’s internal structure and
    administration.
    One of the Pompeo declarations asserts that the
    discovery sought by Petitioners “would tend to confirm or
    deny whether or not [Mitchell and Jessen] have information
    about these categories as they pertain to whether or not the
    CIA conducted detention and interrogation operations in
    Poland and/or with the assistance of the Polish
    Government.” Disclosure of the existence of a clandestine
    intelligence relationship or the extent to which a foreign
    government is covertly operating or sharing intelligence
    would, according to Pompeo, cause significant harm to
    national security because it would: (1) breach the trust on
    18                   HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    which the relationship is based; (2) compromise the CIA’s
    ability to obtain intelligence information or secure
    cooperation in counterterrorism operations; and
    (3) engender backlash from foreign governments.
    Furthermore, Pompeo asserts that the specific locations of
    CIA stations and information about former detention
    facilities are generally classified as “SECRET” and “TOP
    SECRET” respectively because acknowledging the location
    of covert facilities could endanger the safety of CIA officers
    and incite backlash from the host country.
    Reviewing the government’s documents, we note that
    much of the concern animating the assertion of the state
    secret privilege is that harm might result from the
    government’s disclosure of certain information—in
    particular, confirming or denying the location of a CIA black
    site—rather than a concern that harm might result from the
    spread of the information per se. This is not surprising, as
    substantial aspects of the information that the government
    insists are privileged are basically public knowledge. 14 The
    Pompeo declaration acknowledges that there have been
    allegations by the media, nongovernmental organizations,
    and former Polish government officials of the CIA operating
    a detention facility in Poland. Pompeo explains that the
    government cannot control what former foreign government
    officials might choose to say, but that the absence of official
    14
    We cannot agree with the dissent that Article III judges are “not
    in a position” to reach conclusions with publicly available facts. Dissent
    at 31. Indeed, the dissent’s position appears to be inconsistent with our
    essential obligation to review state secrets critically, with a skeptical eye.
    See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082
    (quoting 
    El-Masri, 479 F.3d at 312
    ); Al-
    
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    . We note further that, in the context of
    preliminary proceedings such as those here, we are not called upon to,
    and do not, render any final decision on the merits.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                           19
    confirmation from the CIA is the key to preserving an
    “important element of doubt about the veracity of the
    information.” 15
    Even if we accept that logic, however, the government
    fails to explain why discovery here could amount to such an
    “official confirmation.” The conclusion that the existence of
    a CIA site in Poland is not a secret is not equivalent to a
    finding, either by the district court or this court, that the
    government has taken any official position on the existence
    of such a facility. Nothing in this opinion should be read to
    suggest otherwise. As the district court found, neither
    Mitchell nor Jessen are agents of the government. 16 The
    government has not contested—and we will not disturb—
    that finding. See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1077
    (noting clear
    error standard). As private parties, Mitchell’s and Jessen’s
    disclosures are not equivalent to the United States
    confirming or denying anything.
    Moreover, in light of the record, we agree with the
    district court that disclosure of certain basic facts would not
    15
    The district court, we note, did not accept the government’s
    position, and did “not find convincing the claim that merely
    acknowledging, or denying, the fact the CIA was involved with a facility
    in Poland poses an exceptionally grave risk to national security.” We
    need not and do not address that determination because, regardless
    whether governmental acknowledgment would implicate national
    security, as discussed below, nothing about the government’s
    participation in discovery would constitute governmental
    acknowledgement or denial of the site’s existence.
    16
    Despite so concluding, the district court inconsistently determined
    at step three of the Reynolds analysis that the government’s participation
    in discovery would constitute implicit governmental acknowledgment of
    the program. As discussed herein, see infra at n.18, we do not share that
    assessment.
    20                HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    “cause grave damage to national security.” 
    Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1195
    . First, we agree with the district court and
    Petitioners that in order to be a “state secret,” a fact must first
    be a “secret.” In other contexts where the state secrets
    privilege was applied, the privilege was used to withhold
    information that was not publicly accessible. See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1087
    (“We are precluded from explaining
    precisely which matters the privilege covers lest we
    jeopardize the secrets we are bound to protect.”); 
    id. at 1095
    (Hawkins, J., joined by Schroeder, J., Canby, J., Thomas, J.,
    and Paez, J., dissenting) (describing onerous procedure
    undertaken to preserve a “‘cone of silence’ environment” for
    us to review the sealed record en banc); Al-
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    (concluding that the “Sealed Document is
    protected by the state secrets privilege” after reviewing it in
    camera); Kasza v. Browner, 
    133 F.3d 1159
    , 1170 (9th Cir.
    1998) (“Based on our in camera review of both General
    Moorman’s and Secretary Widnall’s classified declarations,
    . . . [w]e are convinced that release of such information
    would reasonably endanger national security interests.”).
    Insofar as the government asserts privilege over the basic
    fact that the CIA detained Abu Zubaydah in Poland and that
    he was subjected to torture there, this certainly does not
    protect the disclosure of secret information, but rather
    prevents the discussion of already disclosed information in a
    particular case.
    We note that the discovery request here comes indirectly
    from current Polish authorities, specifically, prosecutors
    who have been tasked by the ECHR and the Polish
    government to investigate the circumstances surrounding
    Abu Zubaydah’s detention in Poland. This is significant for
    two reasons. First, it reaffirms our conclusion that the fact
    that the CIA operated in Poland and possibly collaborated
    with Polish individuals over Abu Zubaydah’s detention is
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    21
    not a secret that would harm national security. Cf. Al-
    
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1200
    (noting how details given
    through “voluntary disclosures made by various officials”
    are not state secrets). Second, it undermines the asserted
    national security risks outlined by Pompeo’s declarations,
    such as breaching trust with the cooperating country or
    generating backlash in that country. While we recognize the
    legitimacy of these concerns, they appear less of a concern
    when the other country—here, Poland—is investigating
    criminal liability of the subject matter involved in this
    discovery application.
    Last, we emphasize the importance of striking “an
    appropriate balance . . . between protecting national security
    matters and preserving an open court system.” 
    Id. at 1203.
    While it is essential to guard the courts from becoming
    conduits for undermining the executive branch’s control
    over information related to national security, these concerns
    do not apply when the alleged state secret is no secret at all,
    but rather a matter that is sensitive or embarrassing to the
    government. In other words, the rationale behind the state
    secrets privilege is to protect legitimate government
    interests, not to shield the government from uncomfortable
    facts that may be disclosed or discussed in litigation.
    Protecting the former is an unfortunate necessity in our
    complicated world of national and international affairs.
    Protecting the latter is inconsistent with the principle of an
    independent judiciary.
    Reviewing Petitioners’ request for documents, we agree
    with the district court that much, although not all, of the
    information requested by Petitioners is covered by the state
    secrets privilege. For instance, documents, memoranda, and
    correspondence about the identities and roles of foreign
    individuals involved with the detention facility, operational
    22               HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    details about the facility, and any contracts made with Polish
    government officials or private persons residing in Poland
    might implicate the CIA’s intelligence gathering efforts. As
    explained in the Pompeo declaration, disclosure of the
    identities of foreign nationals who work with the CIA risks
    damaging the intelligence relationship and compromising
    current and future counterterrorism operations.
    Nonetheless, we also agree with the district court that a
    subset of information is not—at least in broad strokes—a
    state secret, namely: the fact that the CIA operated a
    detention facility in Poland in the early 2000s; information
    about the use of interrogation techniques and conditions of
    confinement in that detention facility; and details of Abu
    Zubaydah’s treatment there. These facts have been in the
    public eye for some years now, and we find no reason to
    believe that Mitchell and Jessen testifying about these facts
    “will expose . . . matters which, in the interest of national
    security, should not be divulged.” 
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 10
    .
    We therefore reject the government’s blanket assertion of
    state secrets privilege over everything in Petitioners’
    discovery request. See 
    Fazaga, 1202 F.3d at 1228
    (reiterating “caution[] that courts should work ‘to ensure that
    the state secrets privilege is asserted no more frequently and
    sweepingly than necessary.’” (quoting 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1082
    )).
    C.
    At step three of the Reynolds analysis, we face the more
    difficult task of determining how the matter should proceed
    in light of a successful claim of privilege. 17 Mohamed,
    17
    As the dissent notes, our main disagreement is at the third
    Reynolds step. Dissent at 30. The dissent’s concern about “walking
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                              
    23 614 F.3d at 1082
    . We have held that, “whenever possible,
    sensitive information must be disentangled from
    nonsensitive information to allow for release of the latter.”
    
    Id. (original alterations
    omitted) (quoting 
    Kasza, 133 F.3d at 1166
    ; 
    Ellsberg, 709 F.2d at 57
    ). There are three limited
    circumstances in which a successful claim of privilege
    requires outright termination of the case: (1) where the
    plaintiff cannot prove the prima facie elements of the claim
    with nonprivileged evidence; (2) where the privilege
    deprives that defendant of information that would have
    otherwise given the defendant a valid defense to the claim;
    or (3) where the claims and defenses might theoretically be
    established without relying on the privileged evidence, but
    “it may be impossible to proceed with the litigation
    because—privileged evidence being inseparable from
    nonprivileged information that will be necessary to the
    claims or defenses—litigating the case to a judgment on the
    merits would present an unacceptable risk of disclosing state
    secrets.” 
    Id. at 1083.
    close” to “the line of actual state secrets” simply does not reflect the test
    from Mohamed, which requires that nonsensitive information be released
    “whenever possible.” Compare Dissent at 31, with 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1087
    –89. The dissent also asserts, without any support, that the
    Reynolds step two analysis must also take into consideration the fact that
    the information sought here is ultimately destined for a foreign tribunal
    in Poland. Dissent at 34. A state secret, however, is a state secret in any
    forum, domestic or foreign. The crux of the question is whether “there
    is a reasonable danger that compulsion of the evidence will expose . . .
    matters which, in the interest of national security, should not be
    divulged.” 
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 10
    . Moreover, the dissent’s analysis
    of Reynolds fails to consider the district court’s authority to decide
    whether discovery should be provided to Petitioners in the first instance.
    Only then would Petitioners be able to provide any information to a
    foreign tribunal.
    24                 HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    The district court properly identified the third
    circumstance as the only one potentially applicable to a
    discovery proceeding such as this case. We agree with
    Petitioners, however, that it is not impossible to separate
    secret information, and that the district court was too quick
    to quash the subpoenas and dismiss the case in its entirety. 18
    Unlike our prior cases, this case is a pure discovery
    matter where there are no claims to prove or defenses to
    assert. 19 See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1075
    , 1093 (dismissing
    18
    The district court determined that the government’s
    acknowledgment of the existence of a CIA facility in Poland would not
    implicate a state secret, a conclusion we need not address nor that we
    necessarily share. 
    See supra
    at n.15. The district court nonetheless
    proceeded to find dismissal appropriate under Reynolds step three
    because, given that Petitioners made clear that they seek information
    about Poland, “the Government participating could be viewed as implicit
    confirmation of operation of the Program in Poland.” As mentioned
    above, we reject that determination. 
    See supra
    at n.16. The district
    court’s inconsistent and erroneous view of the effect of the government’s
    participation in discovery was fundamental to the court’s conclusion that
    this case should be dismissed outright. The district court found that
    implicit government acknowledgment, although “seemingly innocuous,”
    was intertwined with state secrets. As we already noted, however,
    nothing about the government’s participation in this case would
    constitute official acknowledgment, implicit or otherwise. Thus, the
    district court’s Reynolds step three conclusion was based entirely upon a
    faulty predicate.
    19
    For this reason, the dissent’s reliance on Mohamed, Al-Haramain,
    and Kasza is off-base. In those cases, plaintiffs sought information that
    belonged to what the courts deemed a “classified mosaic.” 
    Kasza, 133 F.3d at 1166
    . The courts were able to reach that conclusion because
    they all underwent the process of reviewing the contested material to
    determine that there was privileged information that could not be
    disentangled. See 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1095
    ; Al-
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    ; 
    Kasza, 133 F.3d at 1170
    . That was an essential predicate to the
    courts’ dismissal at step three of the Reynolds analysis. See, e.g.,
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                            25
    suit against a U.S. corporation under the Alien Tort Statute
    based on its alleged involvement in the CIA extraordinary
    rendition program); 
    Al-Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1205
    (dismissing lawsuit against the United States because
    plaintiffs could not show standing without privileged
    document); 
    Kasza, 133 F.3d at 1162
    –63 (affirming dismissal
    of citizen suits against the U.S. Air Force and Environmental
    Protection agency). Section 1782 provides the district court
    discretion to order an individual to give deposition testimony
    or produce documents for use in a foreign proceeding
    provided it does not violate “any legally applicable
    privilege.” 28 U.S.C. § 1782(a). The government does not
    challenge the district court’s exercise of that discretion or
    application of the Intel factors. 
    See supra
    at n.13. By the
    terms of the statute, Petitioners can pursue any nonprivileged
    discovery within the parameters set by the district court. 20
    
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1087
    (“We have thoroughly considered plaintiffs’
    claims, several possible defenses and the prospective path of this
    litigation. We also have carefully and skeptically reviewed the
    government’s classified submissions . . . We rely heavily on these
    submissions, which describe the state secrets implicated here, the harm
    to national security that the government believes would result from
    explicit or implicit disclosure and the reasons why, in the government’s
    view, further litigation would risk that disclosure.”).
    Conversely, here, neither the district court nor we have had any
    occasion to review the contested material to reach that threshold
    question. Given the limited factual record, the dissent repeats the same
    error that the district court made by assuming the truth of the
    government’s assertions—that it would not be possible to disentangle the
    privileged from nonprivileged—without first invoking available
    discovery tools as required by Mohamed. 
    See 614 F.3d at 1089
    .
    20
    We agree with Petitioners that, to the extent the district court
    denied discovery because disclosure of some information “would not
    seem to aid the Polish investigation,” the district court erred by imposing
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    Moreover, the record suggests that Petitioners can obtain
    nonprivileged information from Mitchell and Jessen. At the
    district court, Petitioners argued:
    [W]e are here in order to understand the story
    around [Abu Zubaydah’s claims in Poland]
    . . . You know, what was the narrative, what
    sort of treatment was Mr. Zubaydah
    subjected to, what was the feeding regime,
    how was he held, what medical care was he
    given, and of course, yes, we want to know if
    locals were involved in that and to what
    extent.
    ...
    Now, ideally, Your Honor, because we think
    that these are not state secrets at this point in
    time, we would prefer that Mitchell and
    Jessen be permitted to testify as to the
    identities of people and where it occurred.
    But the prosecutor already knows where the
    events occurred and my suspicion is he has a
    good idea, although I’m not privy to the
    specifics of his investigation, of who, you
    know, who his targets are.
    Even if Mitchell and Jessen are restricted from disclosing
    state secrets such as the identities of individuals involved
    with the detention facility, the non-secret information in
    an extraneous requirement upon Petitioners. Whether discoverable
    information may or may not be “useful” in foreign proceedings has no
    bearing on whether the information is privileged.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                           27
    their possession could provide context to Polish prosecutors
    or corroborate prosecutors’ independent investigations.
    More importantly, we conclude that the district court did
    not adequately attempt to disentangle the privileged from
    nonprivileged information. 21 As we noted in Mohamed, “the
    standards for peremptory dismissal are very high and it is the
    district court’s role to use its fact-finding and other tools to
    full advantage before it concludes that the rare step of
    dismissal is 
    justified.” 614 F.3d at 1092
    –93; see also
    
    Reynolds, 345 U.S. at 11
    –12 (remanding for further
    proceedings where plaintiffs potentially could pursue their
    tort action without using material touching upon military
    secrets); cf. 
    Heraeus, 633 F.3d at 597
    (noting that once the
    district court grants a section 1782 application, “the ordinary
    tools of discovery management . . . come into play”).
    Mitchell and Jessen have already provided nonprivileged
    information similar to that sought here in the Salim lawsuit
    before the district court, illustrating the viability of this
    disentanglement. Excerpts of those depositions were
    included in the record and reflect how depositions could
    proceed in this case, such as with the use of code names and
    21
    
    See supra
    at n.18. This is an essential point that the dissent
    overlooks: where Reynolds privilege is successfully asserted at steps one
    and two, the default at step three is nonetheless to “whenever possible
    . . . disentangle[] [the sensitive information] from nonsensitive
    information to allow for the release of the latter.” 
    Kasza, 133 F.3d at 1166
    (quoting 
    Ellsberg, 709 F.2d at 57
    ); see also 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089
    (“Dismissal at the pleading stage under Reynolds is a drastic
    result and should not be readily granted.”). The dissent would flip the
    default to dismissal, unless Petitioners met a newly imposed burden to
    demonstrate a specific plan for disentanglement.
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    pseudonyms, where appropriate. 22 While this no doubt
    imposes a burden on the government to participate in
    discovery and object, where appropriate, 23 we have stressed
    that cases should be dismissed only “in the[] rare
    circumstances” that the district court is not able to employ
    protective procedures to prevent disclosure of state secrets.
    
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1089
    . We are not convinced that
    those rare circumstances exist here. On remand, the district
    court may use the Pompeo declarations as a guide while
    employing tools such as in camera review, protective orders,
    and restrictions on testimony, see 
    id., in tailoring
    the scope
    of Mitchell’s and Jessen’s deposition and the documents
    they may be required to produce.
    IV.
    We have grappled with the state secrets privilege on only
    rare occasions. Given that the district court had only Kasza,
    Al-Haramain and Mohamed as guides in conducting its
    Reynolds analysis, we can understand why the district court
    was so quick to dismiss the proceedings at the third step. The
    court’s hasty dismissal, however, overlooked our “special
    burden to assure . . . that an appropriate balance is struck
    between protecting national security matters and preserving
    22
    The dissent attempts to distinguish the situation in Salim and faults
    Petitioners for not presenting a viable disentanglement plan to the district
    court. Dissent at 32–33. Again, this disregards the fact that the district
    court never engaged in any disentanglement process or assessed what
    protective measures could be utilized to accomplish disentanglement.
    23
    Eight U.S. government attorneys or experts were present at the
    depositions of Mitchell and Jessen in Salim to ensure that nothing
    confidential or privileged would be disclosed.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    29
    an open court system,” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1081
    (quoting
    Al-
    Haramain, 507 F.3d at 1203
    ).
    Our holding is a limited one: if, upon reviewing disputed
    discovery and meaningfully engaging the panoply of tools at
    its disposal, the district court determines that it is not
    possible to disentangle the privileged from nonprivileged, it
    may again conclude that dismissal is appropriate at step three
    of the Reynolds analysis. However, the district court may
    not skip directly to dismissal without doing more. “[A]s
    judges, we strive to honor all of these principles [of justice,
    transparency, accountability and national security],” and
    while “there are times when exceptional circumstances
    create an irreconcilable conflict between them,” 
    id. at 1073—on
    the limited record before us, this is not one of
    those times.
    The world has moved on since we discussed the state
    secrets privilege in Mohamed. In the near decade that has
    passed, we have engaged in a public debate over the CIA’s
    conduct during the early years of the war on terror. The
    district court correctly recognized that the state secrets
    privilege did not cover all the discovery sought by
    Petitioners, but failed to recognize that complete dismissal
    based on the state secrets privilege is reserved only for “rare
    cases.” 
    Id. at 1092.
    REVERSED           and    REMANDED           for    further
    proceedings.
    30               HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    GOULD, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    I respectfully dissent. The majority jeopardizes critical
    national security concerns in the hope that the district court
    will be able to segregate secret information from public
    information that could be discovered. In this case, I would
    defer to the view of then-CIA Director and now Secretary of
    State Michael Pompeo that the disclosure of secret
    information in this proceeding “reasonably could be
    expected to cause serious, and in many instances,
    exceptionally grave damage to U.S. national security.”
    I
    A major source of my disagreement with the majority
    concerns Section III.C of the opinion, with its analysis of
    step three of the United States v. Reynolds test. The majority
    and I agree with the district court that information about
    foreign nationals cooperating with the CIA, “operational
    details about the facility,” and details about Poland’s
    intelligence cooperation with the CIA are subject to the state
    secrets privilege. We part ways with respect to how to
    proceed with carving this kind of information out of
    Petitioners’ broad discovery requests. Our circuit has
    previously contemplated a situation in which, in the face of
    the government’s successful claim of state secrets privilege,
    “it may be impossible to proceed with the litigation
    because—privileged evidence being inseparable from
    nonprivileged information . . .—litigating the case . . . would
    present an unacceptable risk of disclosing state secrets.”
    Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc., 
    614 F.3d 1070
    , 1083
    (9th Cir. 2010) (en banc). I would hold that this is such a
    proceeding and affirm the district court.
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                     31
    I also note that, while step three is a major concern in
    dissent, I am not in a position as an Article III judge to make
    a conclusion that it is agreed that Abu Zubaydah was
    detained and tortured in Poland. Doubtless there is much
    media comment and some reasoning of the European Court
    of Human Rights that looked at this matter suggesting that
    conclusion. But while the District Court findings suggest
    that there was some facility in Poland, I do not read the
    District Court findings to acknowledge that Abu Zubaydah
    was in fact tortured, and the definition of torture was highly
    disputed in our country and not ultimately decided by the
    U.S. Supreme Court in the context of this case. For purposes
    of my dissenting analysis, it is sufficient if at step three of
    the Reynolds’ test it appears that walking close to the line of
    actual state secrets may result in someone overstepping that
    line to the detriment of the United States. I would not need
    to go further than that to accept the position of the CIA in its
    intervenor role in this case that the discovery should not
    proceed.
    The majority remands this case so that Petitioners can
    pursue details about Abu Zubaydah’s treatment that it
    believes are no longer secret, tasking the district court with
    disentangling that information from closely related topics
    that are indisputably subject to the state secrets privilege.
    The majority opinion characterizes this remaining
    information as information that Petitioners could provide as
    part of a “context to Polish prosecutors” under § 1782.
    However, our circuit has recognized that even otherwise
    innocuous information that provides a more coherent and
    complete narrative should not be produced where it may risk
    exposing a broader picture. See Kasza v. Browner, 
    133 F.3d 1159
    , 1166 (9th Cir. 1998) (holding that “if seemingly
    innocuous information is part of a classified mosaic, the state
    secrets privilege may be invoked to bar its disclosure and the
    32              HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES
    court cannot order the government to disentangle this
    information from other classified information”). This is the
    risk presented by the residual information that Petitioners
    will seek on remand. In combination with the circumstances
    of the proceeding and facts already made public, an attempt
    to disentangle the details of Abu Zubaydah’s treatment in
    Poland could expose a broader mosaic of clandestine
    “intelligence activities, sources, or methods.” 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1086
    .
    The majority recognizes that Petitioners’ discovery
    requests could potentially pose a “risk of disclosing state
    secrets” such as details about the CIA’s involvement with
    locations, individuals, and governments overseas because
    this kind of information may be closely tied to nonprivileged
    information. 
    Id. at 1083.
    The majority responds to this
    concern by advising that “depositions could proceed in this
    case, with the use of code names and pseudonyms” in order
    to protect privileged details of CIA operations. Code names
    and pseudonyms had been used in a prior lawsuit to enable
    Mitchell and Jessen to be deposed without revealing
    sensitive information about a CIA black site.
    But the district court judge in this case, who also heard
    that prior lawsuit, understood exactly why those tools would
    be ineffective in this circumstance. Because the entire
    premise of the proceeding and the basis for our jurisdiction
    concerns Polish prosecutorial efforts, the district court was
    correct to reason that “[a]llowing the matter to proceed with
    a code word, such as ‘detention site blue’ to replace Poland
    seems disingenuous.”          As the government argued,
    “regardless of what pseudonyms or fictitious words
    [Petitioners] would propose to use as a substitute, there’s no
    escaping the fact that everything [they are] asking would
    relate to allegations about things that occurred in Poland,
    HUSAYN V. UNITED STATES                    33
    people that were there, [and] activities that allegedly
    occurred there.” Like the approach of the district court in
    Al-Haramain, the majority’s instruction to use code names
    opens the door to secret information being “revealed through
    reconstruct[ion]” even if it is not directly produced. Al-
    Haramain Islamic Found., Inc. v. Bush, 
    507 F.3d 1190
    , 1204
    (9th Cir. 2007). The Al-Haramain court rejected this sort of
    approach as the “worst of both world[s].” 
    Id. Petitioners have
    not demonstrated that the use of code words could
    meaningfully restrict the information ultimately made public
    through these discovery requests, and the majority should
    not, therefore, suggest that national security would be
    protected by their use.
    In brief, although the majority is right to emphasize our
    “special burden to assure . . . that an appropriate balance is
    struck between protecting national security matters and
    preserving an open court system,” the majority does not
    recognize some of the ways in which this particular case
    presents unique challenges for step three of the Reynolds
    analysis. 
    Mohamed, 614 F.3d at 1081
    . Because of the
    circumstances presented by a § 1782 proceeding, the
    information Petitioners seek is inextricably linked with
    particular intelligence missions and particular foreign
    intelligence contacts. Details about “the use of interrogation
    techniques and conditions of confinement in that detention
    facility . . . [and] Abu Zubaydah’s treatment there” will
    inevitably be placed in the context of a Polish prosecution
    seeking to discover aspects of the CIA’s presence in Poland
    and any foreign nationals working with the CIA there, topics
    the majority recognizes to be privileged. Without a more
    specific and plausible plan for obtaining that nonprivileged
    information and not risking the exposure of a broader picture
    of national security material, I would defer to then-Director
    Pompeo’s assessment of the risks presented in allowing the
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    discovery proceeding to go forward. For that reason, I must
    respectfully dissent from the majority’s application of step
    three of the United States v. Reynolds test. These concerns
    apply to any case in which the Reynolds test is applied and
    step three of that test must be addressed.
    II
    Also, there are aspects of this case peculiar to the context
    of § 1782 and consideration of the Reynolds test when the
    sought information will be produced for a foreign country
    under § 1782. I find it very troubling that the majority’s
    analysis of the extent of the Reynolds privilege in section
    III.B of the opinion does not acknowledge and evaluate the
    consequences of the fact that the information sought in a
    discovery proceeding here under § 1782 is ultimately
    destined for a foreign tribunal in Poland. Determining the
    extent of the state secrets privilege is a task that always aims
    at assuring “that an appropriate balance is struck between
    protecting national security matters and preserving an open
    court system.” Mohamed v. Jeppesen Dataplan, Inc.,
    
    614 F.3d 1070
    , 1081 (9th Cir. 2010) (en banc) (citing Al-
    Haramain Islamic Found., Inc. v. Bush, 
    507 F.3d 1190
    , 1203
    (9th Cir. 2007)). Reynolds itself contemplated balancing the
    legitimate rights of survivors to sue about the deaths of their
    loved ones against concerns of potential harm from
    disclosing military secrets. See United States v. Reynolds,
    
    345 U.S. 1
    , 9 (1953) (holding that the state secrets privilege
    is guided by a “formula of compromise”). But how is that
    balance to be struck here where the information is sought for
    potential prosecutions in Poland of Polish citizens who may
    have worked in Poland with the Respondents?
    I would hold that the Reynolds balance should recognize
    that information produced in domestic proceedings remains
    under the supervision of the United States court system in a
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    way that information produced in discovery for overseas
    tribunals does not. Reynolds makes clear that it is our
    domestic national security concerns that create a privilege
    against disclosure of information that may harm our country.
    
    Id. at 10.
    This country’s judicial system stands to gain little
    from providing information to Polish prosecutors, while it is
    this country’s national security that is being risked.
    Although it is true that § 1782 authorizes discovery for the
    benefit of foreign proceedings, it is also true that the
    Reynolds privilege requires a balancing test that can take into
    account that the sought discovery will be shipped overseas
    for the benefit of another country’s judicial system, and at
    that point, totally out of control of a domestic court.
    III
    For the reasons set forth above, I respectfully dissent.