Faith Center Church v. Glover ( 2007 )


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  •                                               Volume 1 of 2
    FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH                    
    EVANGELISTIC MINISTRIES, a
    California non-profit religious
    corporation; HATTIE HOPKINS, an
    individual,
    Plaintiffs-Appellees,
    v.
    FEDERAL D. GLOVER, member and                No. 05-16132
    Chair of the Contra Costa County               D.C. No.
    Board of Supervisors; MARK                 CV-04-03111-JSW
    DESAULNIER; JOHN M. GIOIA;
    ORDER
    MILLIE GREENBERG, members of the
    Contra Costa County Board of                AMENDING
    OPINION AND
    Supervisors; JOHN W. SWEETEN;
    DISSENT TO
    ANNE CAIN, Contra Costa County
    ORDER AND
    Librarian; PATTY CHAN, Senior
    AMENDED
    Branch Librarian for the Antioch
    OPINION
    Branch of the Contra Costa
    County Public Library; LAURA
    O’DONAHUE, Administrative
    Deputy Director for the Antioch
    Branch of the Contra Costa
    County Public Library; GAYLE B.
    UILKEMA,
    Defendants-Appellants.
    
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Northern District of California
    Jeffrey S. White, District Judge, Presiding
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    2732             FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    Argued and Submitted
    February 17, 2006—San Francisco, California
    Filed September 20, 2006
    Amended March 9, 2007
    Before: Richard A. Paez and Richard C. Tallman,
    Circuit Judges, and Lawrence K. Karlton,*
    Senior District Judge.
    Order;
    Dissent to Order by Judge Bybee;
    Opinion by Judge Paez;
    Concurrence by Judge Karlton;
    Dissent by Judge Tallman
    *The Honorable Lawrence K. Karlton, Senior United States District
    Judge for the Eastern District of California, sitting by designation.
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    COUNSEL
    Silvano B. Marchesi, Kelly M. Flanagan, and Danielle R.
    Merida, County Counsel, Martinez, California; Debra S.
    Belaga and Colleen M. Kennedy, O’Melveny & Myers LLP,
    San Francisco, California, for the appellants.
    Benjamin W. Bull, Gary S. McCaleb, and Jordan W. Lorence,
    Alliance Defense Fund, Scottsdale, Arizona; Elizabeth A.
    Murray, Alliance Defense Fund, Washington, D.C.; Timothy
    D. Chandler, Alliance Defense Fund, Folsom, California;
    Terry L. Thompson, Law Offices of Terry L. Thompson,
    Alamo, California, for the appellees.
    ORDER
    The final sentence of the seventh paragraph of Section V.A.
    of the Opinion filed September 20, 2006 and published at 
    462 F.3d 1194
    , 1209 (9th Cir. 2006), is amended by inserting the
    following after “See id. at 138 n. 3, 
    121 S. Ct. 2093
    ”: “(Souter,
    J., dissenting).”
    The full court was advised of the petition for rehearing en
    banc. A judge of the court called for a vote on whether to
    rehear the matter en banc. On such vote, a majority of the
    nonrecused active judges failed to vote in favor of en banc
    rehearing.
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    The petition for rehearing en banc is DENIED. Judge
    Bybee’s dissent from denial of en banc rehearing is filed con-
    currently herewith.
    BYBEE, Circuit Judge, with whom O’SCANNLAIN,
    KLEINFELD, TALLMAN, CALLAHAN, BEA and SMITH,
    JR., Circuit Judges, join, dissenting from the denial of rehear-
    ing en banc:
    The panel majority’s decision permits the government to
    single out what it calls “mere religious worship” for exclusion
    from a forum that it has opened broadly for use by community
    and cultural groups. In so doing, the majority has disregarded
    equal-access cases stretching back nearly three decades,
    turned a blind eye to blatant viewpoint discrimination, and
    endorsed disparate treatment of different religious groups. I
    respectfully dissent from the court’s decision not to rehear
    this case en banc.
    I
    The Contra Costa County Library makes its rooms gener-
    ally available to the public for “educational, cultural and com-
    munity related meetings, programs and activities.” Faith Ctr.
    Church Evangelistic Ministries v. Glover, 
    462 F.3d 1194
    ,
    1198 (9th Cir. 2006). The County’s policy contains several
    time, place, and manner restrictions, along with one purport-
    edly content-based restriction: The rooms “shall not be used
    for religious services.” Id. at 1198-99. All other meetings—
    including those involving religious speech short of “services”
    —are welcome to the library.1
    1
    The library’s policy has undergone some refinement. Prior to 2004, the
    policy said no “religious purposes.” In mid-2004, the policy was amended
    to prohibit “religious services or activities.” In late 2004, the Board of
    Supervisors adopted the current no “religious services” policy. The panel
    majority’s opinion appears to revise it yet again, narrowing the prohibition
    to encompass only religious services that consist of “mere religious wor-
    ship.”
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    Faith Center Evangelistic Ministries Outreach reserved a
    meeting room at the County’s Antioch Library for a four-hour
    period. In its promotional flyers, Faith Center described the
    scheduled meeting as having two components: two hours in
    the morning for a “Wordshop” entitled “ ‘The Making of an
    Intercessor,’ an End-Time call to Prayer for every Believer,
    and how to pray fervent, effectual Prayers that God hears and
    answers,” and two hours in the afternoon for a “Praise and
    Worship” meeting, including a sermon. The library ultimately
    advised Faith Center that it could conduct its “Wordshop” but
    not its “Praise and Worship” session. The district court
    enjoined the County’s policy because it was likely to result in
    impermissible viewpoint discrimination. Faith Ctr. Church
    Evangelistic Ministries v. Glover, 
    2005 WL 1220947
    , at *1
    n.1 (N.D. Cal. 2005).
    A divided panel disagreed. The majority declared that
    “[p]ure religious worship . . . is not a secular activity that con-
    veys a religious viewpoint on [an] otherwise permissible sub-
    ject matter.” Faith Ctr., 462 F.3d at 1210. Thus, religious
    worship “is not a viewpoint but a category of discussion,” and
    a “blanket exclusion of religious worship services from the
    forum is [a permissible one] based on the content of speech.”2
    2
    Judge Karlton wrote separately to criticize the Supreme Court’s deci-
    sions in Good News Club v. Milford Cent. Sch., 
    533 U.S. 98
     (2001), and
    Lamb’s Chapel v. Ctr. Moriches Union Free Sch. Dist., 
    508 U.S. 384
    (1993), for the “majorities’ disdain of the Jefferson model” and “belief
    that religious values enhance rather than endanger society.” Faith Ctr.,
    462 F.3d at 1215 (Karlton, J., concurring). He then observed:
    It may be that the majority of the Supreme Court really has doubt
    about the ability to distinguish between religious practice and
    secular speech. If so, they need only leave their chambers, go out
    in the street and ask the first person they meet whether in the
    instant case the conduct is religious in character. It is simply
    untenable to insist that there is no difference between a prayer
    and e.g. political speech. To coin a phrase, one can only pray for
    the court’s enlightenment.
    Id. at 1216.
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    Id. at 1211. Judge Tallman dissented, accurately describing
    the County as having “draw[n] an arbitrary line in the sand.”
    Id. at 1217 (Tallman, J., dissenting).
    II
    Beginning with Widmar v. Vincent, 
    454 U.S. 263
    , 267
    (1981), the Supreme Court has consistently held that once the
    government establishes a forum open generally to use by the
    public, it “assume[s] an obligation to justify its discrimina-
    tions and exclusions under applicable constitutional norms.”
    Under these norms, the government must grant both religious
    and non-religious groups access to the forum on equal terms.
    In other words, the government can exclude religious speech
    only if the content of that speech is not germane to the pur-
    poses of the forum or if the expressive activity violates stan-
    dard time, place, and manner restrictions on the forum’s use.
    See Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of the Univ. of Vir-
    ginia, 
    515 U.S. 819
    , 830 (1995). But the government cannot
    exclude religious speech simply because of its religious char-
    acter.
    The panel majority, however, authorized the County to do
    just that. It upheld the County’s policy prohibiting the use of
    its library meeting rooms for “religious services” even though
    those rooms were otherwise generally open for “educational,
    cultural and community related meetings, programs and activ-
    ities.” “Religious services” undeniably fall within the broadly
    stated purpose of the forum, and Faith Center’s worship ser-
    vices indisputably complied with all of the time, place and
    manner regulations governing use of the meeting room. In
    other words, the County’s sole basis for excluding Faith Cen-
    ter from the library was the religious character of its speech
    activities.
    By permitting the County to “justify its discrimination[ ]
    and exclusion[ ]” on the religious nature of the speech, see
    Widmar, 454 U.S. at 267, the majority has effectively rele-
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    gated religious worship to an inferior status vis-à-vis commu-
    nity and cultural speech that claims a secular component. This
    disparate treatment effectively nullifies the Supreme Court’s
    statement in Widmar that “religious worship and discussion
    . . . are forms of speech and association protected by the First
    Amendment,” id. at 269, and runs counter to the equal access
    cases that follow Widmar. See Good News Club v. Milford
    Cent. Sch., 
    533 U.S. 98
     (2001); Rosenberger, 
    515 U.S. 819
    ;
    Lamb’s Chapel v. Ctr. Moriches Sch. Dist., 
    508 U.S. 394
    (1993).
    A
    In Widmar, the University of Missouri-Kansas City had
    enacted a policy governing access to university facilities that
    was uncannily similar to the policy here: It barred the use of
    university buildings, which were generally open to use by stu-
    dent groups, “for purposes of religious worship or religious
    teaching.” Widmar, 454 U.S. at 265 n.3. Pursuant to this pol-
    icy, the university denied an evangelical student group per-
    mission to use university facilities, in part because some of its
    activities consisted of religious worship.3 Id. at 265. The
    Court held that this type of discrimination against groups
    seeking to engage in “religious worship and discussion” was
    improper because “[t]hese are forms of speech and association
    protected by the First Amendment.” Id. at 269.
    Given the close parallels between the policy and expressive
    activity involved in this case and those at issue in Widmar, the
    panel should have summarily affirmed the district court. The
    classrooms in Widmar were open broadly to the university
    3
    The group’s meetings generally consisted of the typical components of
    an evangelical worship service: “prayer, hymns, Bible commentary, and
    discussion of religious views and experiences.” Widmar, 454 U.S. at 265
    n.2. In his dissent, Justice White argued, and the majority appears to have
    accepted, that the student group’s meeting was properly described as reli-
    gious worship. Compare id. at 269-70 with id. at 283 (White, J., dissent-
    ing).
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    community just as the library’s rooms here were open broadly
    to community and cultural groups. Like the student group in
    Widmar, the church here sought access for both worship and
    non-worship speech activities. As in Widmar, there was no
    constitutional basis for distinguishing between these forms of
    speech.
    As the Court has explained in subsequent decisions, Wid-
    mar’s equal access rule imposes two requirements. First, once
    the government has opened a limited forum, it “must respect
    the lawful boundaries it has itself set” and “may not exclude
    speech where its distinction is not reasonable in light of the
    purpose served by the forum.” Rosenberger, 515 U.S. at 829
    (internal quotations omitted). Second, even if the exclusion
    reasonably relates to the purpose of the forum, any restriction
    must be viewpoint neutral. Lamb’s Chapel, 508 U.S. at 397-
    98. The religious character of the speech is simply irrelevant
    to both of these requirements.
    Thus, in Lamb’s Chapel, where a school district had
    opened its property for “social, civic, and recreational uses”
    but prohibited groups from using its property for “religious
    purposes,” 508 U.S. at 387, the Court held that the district had
    applied its policy unconstitutionally when it refused to grant
    access to the forum to a group wishing to show a film dealing
    with family issues and child rearing from a religious perspec-
    tive, id. at 393-94. The film “dealt with a subject otherwise
    permissible under [the school district’s policy], and its exhibi-
    tion was denied solely because the series dealt with the sub-
    ject from a religious standpoint.” Id. at 394. Denial of access
    based on the religious nature of the speech constituted imper-
    missible viewpoint discrimination.4
    4
    Although the Court did not reach the issue, it subsequently implied that
    it would also have found the school district’s exclusion unreasonable
    given the purposes of the forum. As the Court noted, the only reason the
    group sponsoring the film had not qualified as “a social or civic organiza-
    tion” under the school district’s rules was because of its “religious pur-
    poses,” which, of course, it had held to be constitutionally irrelevant.
    Rosenberger, 515 U.S. at 832.
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    Similarly, in Rosenberger, the Court held that the Univer-
    sity of Virginia’s policy of denying funds to student newspa-
    pers with “religious editorial viewpoints” violated the First
    Amendment because the university had excluded a particular
    perspective on “subjects . . . otherwise within the approved
    category of publications.” 515 U.S. at 831. It was irrelevant
    both that some of the “viewpoints” were uniquely religious
    and lacked a secular counterpart and that the university’s
    restriction, which barred all uniquely religious content,
    excluded “an entire class of viewpoints.” Id. As the Court
    noted, “exclusion of several views . . . is just as offensive to
    the First Amendment as the exclusion of only one.” Id.
    In Good News Club, the Court confirmed that even “quint-
    essentially religious” speech, including worship and evangel-
    ization, cannot be excluded from a forum so long as that
    speech is reasonably related to the purposes of the forum. 533
    U.S. at 111. In that case, the school had set aside the forum
    for use by “any group that promote[s] the moral and character
    development of children.” Id. at 108 (internal quotations omit-
    ted) (alteration in original). Although the speech at issue had
    components that could be described only as “religious wor-
    ship,” the Court concluded that it “address[ed] a subject other-
    wise permitted under the rule . . . from a religious standpoint.”
    Id. at 109. Because there was no difference between the
    Club’s invocation of Christianity and “the invocation of team-
    work, loyalty, or patriotism by other associations” in address-
    ing a matter germane to the purpose of the forum, the school
    could not rely on the religious nature of the former in exclud-
    ing the Club. Id. at 111-12.
    Faith Center’s speech here fits squarely within the protec-
    tions erected by these cases. As noted above, religious
    services—both as religious expression per se, see, e.g., J.S.
    BACH, Mass in B Minor, and as vehicles for moral and theo-
    logical teaching—bear a reasonable relationship to the “edu-
    cational, cultural and community” purposes for which the
    County has set aside its library meeting rooms. Given this
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    relationship, the County’s express exclusion of religious
    speech—and only religious speech—is a pure viewpoint-
    based exception and is plainly prohibited by the First Amend-
    ment.
    B
    The majority attempts to avoid the great weight of these
    cases by arguing that “mere religious worship” is not a view-
    point but a separate category of discussion distinguishable
    from other religious speech. The majority argues that, unlike
    the religious speech at issue in the Supreme Court’s equal
    access jurisprudence, “mere religious worship” has no secular
    counterpart on which it provides a religious perspective; in
    other words, under the majority’s view, whether religious
    speech offers a viewpoint is judged entirely by a secular stan-
    dard, and the absence of a secular counterpart means that
    “mere worship” can be treated as a separate, and perhaps
    unique, category of speech. See Faith Ctr., 462 F.3d at 1210-
    11. The majority further argues that the Court itself recog-
    nized “mere religious worship” as a separate—and constitu-
    tionally inferior—category of speech in Good News Club. See
    id. at 1209. None of these objections survives close scrutiny.
    First, Widmar rejects outright any attempt to make “a dis-
    tinction between the kinds of religious speech explicitly pro-
    tected by [its] cases and a new class of religious speech act[s]
    constituting worship.” Widmar, 454 U.S. at 269 n.6 (citation
    and internal quotations omitted) (second alteration in origi-
    nal); see also id. at 284-86 (White, J., dissenting). The Court
    noted “at least” three difficulties with the proposed distinc-
    tion: (1) it lacks intelligible content; (2) it is not “within the
    judicial competence to administer”; and (3) it is a constitu-
    tionally irrelevant basis for distinguishing among different
    types of religious speech. Id. at 269 n.6. Even if Widmar’s
    express rejection of the panel majority’s distinction were not
    dispositive, it would still collapse under the weight of these
    three objections.
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    Second, Rosenberger undermines the viability of the
    content/viewpoint distinction in this context. The Court noted
    in that case that “discrimination against one set of views or
    ideas is but a subset or particular instance of the more general
    phenomenon of content discrimination.” Rosenberger, 515
    U.S. at 830-31 (citing R.A.V. v. St. Paul, 
    505 U.S. 377
    , 391
    (1992)). Although religion can be classified both as a subject
    area and as a viewpoint, the Court explained that exclusion of
    religious speech constitutes impermissible viewpoint discrim-
    ination because it involves “a specific premise, a perspective,
    a standpoint from which a variety of subjects may be dis-
    cussed and considered.” Id. at 831. Notably, the Court treated
    speech activity that lacked a secular corollary, such as prose-
    lytization, no differently from that which offered a religious
    viewpoint on an otherwise secular topic.
    Within the Rosenberger framework, the panel majority
    simply has no basis for drawing the line at worship in this
    context. The library has opened its rooms for cultural and
    community activities, an exceptionally broad category of
    speech that includes religious speech. The County acknowl-
    edges that religion as such is an “otherwise permissible cate-
    gory” that falls within the scope of the forum’s stated
    purposes, but it expressly bars a particular subset of constitu-
    tionally protected speech—worship—that addresses religious,
    not to mention community, social, moral, and educational,
    matters from a particular viewpoint.5
    5
    The content/viewpoint distinction may have some explanatory power,
    but in only in very narrow circumstances, such as in public schools or
    other fora opened for very limited purposes. For example, even though a
    public school could not permit Good News Club to make announcements
    over the public address system while forbidding the Hillel Society from
    doing so, it could forbid them both from using the PA system to conduct
    devotionals. The time for announcements is dedicated time, and the school
    may restrict the content of the announcements to germane when-and-
    where information. Similar content-based restrictions could be imposed if
    the forum has been established for a very narrow purpose, such as the
    moral education of children, as in Good News Club.
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    There are, of course, perfectly permissible means by which
    categories of speech—including worship activities—could be
    excluded from the library. For example, if the library had set
    aside its meeting rooms for book clubs, it could certainly
    exclude every other category of expressive activity that did
    not fall within the purposes of the forum. The library could
    exclude worship services that were not book clubs, just as it
    could exclude political debates and city council meetings.
    What it could not do is exclude book clubs discussing the
    Koran, the Torah, or the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Or the
    library might open its meeting rooms broadly, while prohibit-
    ing food or drink. That policy would exclude meetings at
    which communion might be served, or a Seder celebrated, or
    prashad distributed, just as it would exclude serving refresh-
    ments at a Boy Scout Court of Honor or tea at a meeting of
    the Garden Club. What the library cannot do is permit food
    and drink except when it is consumed in connection with reli-
    gious services. See Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v.
    City of Hialeah, 
    508 U.S. 520
     (1993). But that is exactly what
    the library has done here: It has opened the forum to all com-
    munity and cultural speech except such speech that encom-
    passes a viewpoint that is unique to religion.
    Third, contrary to the panel majority’s view, Good News
    Club does not support the separation of “mere worship” from
    other religious speech. In making this distinction, the majority
    relies heavily on footnote four of the Court’s opinion in Good
    News Club, which it reads as distinguishing between the
    Club’s activities and “mere religious worship.” See Faith Ctr.,
    462 F.3d at 1209. However, any distinction drawn by the
    Court makes sense only in the context of the narrowly defined
    forum in that case.
    These considerations are not relevant here. Contra Costa has opened the
    library to the broadest of audiences “for meetings, programs, or activities
    of educational, cultural or community interest.” It is hard to conclude that
    Faith Center’s activities—worship or otherwise—don’t fall well within
    those expansive guidelines.
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    In Good News Club, New York had adopted regulations
    under which school boards could open the schools to public
    use. 533 U.S. at 102. One of the authorized purposes was for
    “teaching morals and character development to children.” Id.
    at 108. Nevertheless, the school rejected a request by the
    Good News Club to use the school’s facilities for that pur-
    pose. Id. at 103-04. The Court found that it was “clear that the
    Club teaches morals and character development to children,”
    and held that it was irrelevant that the Club offered a religious
    perspective on that subject. Id. at 108, 110-12. The Court held
    that “speech discussing otherwise permissible subjects cannot
    be excluded from a limited public forum on the ground that
    the subject is discussed from a religious viewpoint.” Id. at
    112.
    In a footnote responding to Justice Souter’s dissent, the
    Court “conclude[d] that the Club’s activities [did] not consti-
    tute mere religious worship, divorced from any teaching of
    moral values.” Id. at 112 n.4. The Court was pointing out only
    that the Club’s activities were reasonably related to the pur-
    poses of the limited forum; in that sense, the Club’s activities
    were not “mere religious worship” lacking any connection to
    the purpose of the forum. If the Club had attempted to con-
    duct worship that contained no references to moral and char-
    acter development in children, the school could have denied
    permission for such use, just as it could have denied permis-
    sion for a “mere political discussion” or a “mere Tupperware
    party” also devoid of such content. The relevant distinction
    was between “mere religious worship” and worship that bore
    a relationship to the narrow purposes of the dedicated forum,
    not between a category of fully protected religious speech
    with a secular component or counterpart and speech that is
    less protected because it is exclusively religious. Here, the
    County has opened its library meeting rooms generally to
    community groups for a wide range of cultural and commu-
    nity activities; the distinction between “mere religious wor-
    ship” and other forms of religious speech is thus utterly
    irrelevant. Whatever “mere religious worship” involves, it is
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2747
    both a cultural and a community activity and as such certainly
    constitutes an “otherwise permissible subject[ ]” under the
    County’s policy. See Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 112.
    III
    The likely effect of the majority’s rule in the real world
    confirms that it ratifies viewpoint-based discrimination and
    raises profound Establishment Clause concerns. The Court
    has “consistently and firmly deprecated” government policies
    favoring one religion over another, Larson v. Valente, 
    456 U.S. 228
    , 246 (1982), and subjects to strict scrutiny policies
    that “facially differentiate[ ] among religions,” Hernandez v.
    Commissioner, 
    490 U.S. 680
    , 695 (1989). The rule estab-
    lished by the majority violates these principles by privileging
    some religious groups over others.
    That the County’s policy treats religious groups differently
    is clear from even a brief survey of American religious
    denominations. For example, under the majority’s test, Evan-
    gelicals and Unitarian groups should generally be granted
    access: Moral teaching is integral to their services, as are fel-
    lowship, singing, and other distinctly non-worship activities.
    Liturgically oriented denominations such as Episcopalians
    and Catholics will find themselves subject to greater burdens:
    The worship elements of their services are more distinct and
    easily severable from the non-worship elements, and they
    have more services (such as the Daily Office in the Catholic
    tradition) that can be characterized in their entirety as “mere
    worship.”
    Furthermore, under the majority’s approach, a diverse
    range of religions may use the County’s library meeting
    rooms for “religious services” without fear of County censor-
    ship because their services cannot be characterized as “mere
    worship.” The last half-century has seen a flowering in this
    country of non-theistic religions that either do not recognize
    or do not worship any divine being. Rather, these religions—
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    including certain strands of Buddhism, Confucianism, and
    newer groups such as the American Ethical Union (or Ethical
    Humanism)—concern themselves primarily, or even exclu-
    sively, with ethical principles.
    Although each of these groups conducts “religious ser-
    vices” that may be highly ritualistic, none of them—by
    definition—engages in anything that could plausibly be called
    “mere worship.” Thus, whether the County was confronted
    with a Buddhist group desiring to conduct a religious service
    —before a statue of the Buddha and surrounded by candles
    and incense—consisting of meditation on the Eightfold Path
    or an Ethical Humanist group scheduling a service devoted to
    “consecrating [participants’] lives to acting in ways that honor
    [their] primary commitment to respect the worth and dignity
    of each person and to create human institutions which enable
    societies . . . to do so as well,” Jone Johnson Lewis, Ethical
    Culture as Religion, http://www.aeu.org/religion.html (last
    visited Feb. 22, 2006), it would have to grant the application
    under the majority’s rule permitting the exclusion only of
    “mere worship.” After all, neither group would identify its
    activities as worship, nor, indeed, does either engage in any-
    thing akin to traditional, Judeo-Christian “worship.” Yet to
    the average outside observer, both services would likely
    appear indistinguishable from the activities the majority calls
    “mere worship,” and indeed, both groups would view their
    activities as quintessential religious activity. That one group
    would be granted access to engage in such activity and
    another denied is patently unconstitutional. As the Supreme
    Court recognized over four decades ago, disparate treatment
    of theistic and non-theistic religions is as offensive to the
    Establishment Clause as disparate treatment of theistic reli-
    gions. See Torcaso v. Watkins, 
    367 U.S. 488
    , 495 (1961); see
    also Lee v. Weisman, 
    505 U.S. 577
    , 617 (1992) (Souter, J.,
    concurring) (noting that a policy that treats theistic religions
    similarly is not sufficiently universal to avoid Establishment
    Clause concerns because many religions are non-theistic).
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2749
    IV
    The majority’s rule permits government entities to deny
    access to a limited public forum made generally available to
    community groups solely on the basis of the uniquely reli-
    gious viewpoint of the speaker. In doing so, the majority has
    jettisoned three decades of equal access jurisprudence, created
    a constitutionally inferior category of religious speech, and
    given governments throughout our circuit license to favor cer-
    tain religions over others. I respectfully dissent from the order
    denying rehearing en banc.
    OPINION
    PAEZ, Circuit Judge:
    This appeal from the grant of a preliminary injunction
    involves an evangelical Christian church seeking access to a
    public library meeting room to conduct, among other activi-
    ties, religious worship services. We are called upon to navi-
    gate between two equally important interests: the church’s
    right to access a government building that is open to other
    groups, and the government’s right to preserve its property for
    its intended uses. We conclude that the district court erred
    when it found that the church was likely to succeed on the
    merits of its First Amendment claim and therefore abused its
    discretion in granting preliminary injunctive relief. We have
    jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1292, and we reverse in part
    and remand.
    I.
    The relevant facts are not disputed. Contra Costa County
    (“County”) makes available to the public its public library
    meeting rooms during operating hours. The County’s goal in
    making these meeting rooms available is “to encourage the
    2750            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    use of library meeting rooms for educational, cultural and
    community related meetings, programs and activities.” Pursu-
    ant to the County’s library meeting room policy, “[n]on-profit
    and civic organizations, for-profit organizations, schools and
    governmental organizations” may use the meeting room space
    for “meetings, programs, or activities of educational, cultural
    or community interest.” The County regulates use of the
    meeting rooms in the following ways: (1) library meeting
    rooms are available on a first-come, first-served basis; (2) the
    applicant must submit an application that identifies the appli-
    cant and purpose of the meeting; (3) access to the meeting
    room is contingent upon approval by the library staff, and the
    County library reserves the right to deny an application or
    revoke permission previously granted; (4) an applicant must
    pay a fee for use of the meeting room when a meeting is not
    open to the general public, when it charges an admission fee,
    or when it involves sales or solicitations; (5) schools may not
    utilize a meeting room “for instructional purposes as a regular
    part of the curriculum”; and (6) the library meeting room
    “shall not be used for religious services.”
    It is the last policy restriction on “Religious Use” that is the
    subject of this case. The “Religious Use” restriction has twice
    been amended since the present action was filed in the district
    court. Initially, the policy provided that “[l]ibrary meeting
    rooms shall not be used for religious purposes.” In August
    2004, the County modified the policy to prohibit use of
    library meeting rooms “for religious services or activities.”
    On December 14, 2004, the County Board of Supervisors
    adopted Resolution No. 2004/655, the County’s current pol-
    icy, to prohibit “religious services” from being conducted in
    library meeting rooms.
    Plaintiff Faith Center Church Evangelistic Ministries is a
    non-profit religious corporation led by plaintiff Pastor Hattie
    Mae Hopkins (collectively “Faith Center”). According to
    Faith Center’s verified amended complaint, Pastor Hopkins
    believes that she is called to share her Christian faith with oth-
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                 2751
    ers. Pastor Hopkins believes that there are many individuals
    who need to hear about the gospel of Jesus Christ but who
    may never enter a traditional church building. To reach those
    individuals, Pastor Hopkins holds meetings and worship ser-
    vices in non-church buildings under the auspices of Faith
    Center. Participants at Faith Center’s meetings generally “(a)
    discuss educational, cultural, and community issues from a
    religious perspective; (b) engage in religious speech and reli-
    gious worship; and (c) engage in discussing the Bible and
    other religious books [as well as] teaching, praying, singing,
    sharing testimonies, sharing meals, and discussing social and
    political issues.”
    Pastor Hopkins believes that divine providence guided her
    to begin holding Faith Center meetings in Antioch, California.
    In May 2004, Pastor Hopkins submitted applications request-
    ing to use the County’s Antioch Branch Library meeting room
    for May 29, 2004 and July 31, 2004. In each application, Pas-
    tor Hopkins described the purpose of Faith Center’s meetings
    as “Prayer, Praise and Worship Open to the Public, Purpose
    to Teach and Encourage Salvation thru Jesus Christ and Build
    up Community.” Pastor Hopkins received confirmation from
    Antioch Library staff that her applications had been approved
    and that Faith Center’s dates were reserved on the library’s
    calendar.
    Faith Center advertised its May 29, 2004 meeting with a
    flyer describing a “Women of Excellence Conference” spon-
    sored by Faith Center Evangelistic Ministries Outreach. The
    flyer stated:
    Coming to Antioch, California, on May 29th 2004,
    where the power of God would be moving to bring
    miracles into your life. “For this is the hour of the
    believer,” thus saith the Lord, for divine impartation
    of spiritual gifts, and empowerment, for the body of
    Christ to move forward in total victory. Come and
    receive your blessing!
    2752               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    The flyer divided the day’s activities into a “Wordshop”
    from 11:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., refreshments, and an afternoon
    “Praise and Worship” service with a sermon by Pastor Hop-
    kins from 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. The topic of the morning
    “wordshop” was “ ‘The Making of an Intercessor,’ an End-
    time call to Prayer for every Believer, and how to pray fer-
    vent, effectual Prayers that God hears and answers.”
    Faith Center held its meeting and service on May 29, 2004.
    Toward the end of the afternoon service, Antioch Library staff
    informed Faith Center representatives that they were not per-
    mitted to use the meeting room for religious activities.
    According to Faith Center, the library staff did not express
    concern about excessive noise but rather about a violation of
    the “Religious Use” policy, which, at that time, prohibited the
    use of library meeting rooms for “religious purposes.”1 In
    June 2004, the County removed Faith Center’s July 31, 2004
    meeting from the Antioch Library calendar and later con-
    firmed with Faith Center that the July meeting had been can-
    celled.
    On July 30, 2004, Faith Center sued to enjoin the County
    from excluding Faith Center’s proposed religious meetings on
    the basis of the County’s “Religious Use” policy.2 Faith Cen-
    ter also sought a declaration that the meeting room policy was
    unconstitutional on its face and as applied to Faith Center’s
    1
    Faith Center contends that out of consideration for library patrons, the
    meeting participants did not use musical instruments or amplified sound.
    The County explains that the Antioch Library meeting room is not sound-
    proof and the May 29 service could be heard outside the meeting room.
    The County does not argue that excessive noise was a problem.
    2
    Faith Center named as defendants Federal D. Glover (chair of the
    County Board of Supervisors); Mark DeSaulnier, John M. Gioia, Millie
    Greenberg, and Gayle B. Uilkema (members of the County Board of
    Supervisors); John Sweeten (County Administrator); Anne Cain (County
    Librarian); Patty Chan (Senior Librarian of the Antioch Branch); and
    Laura O’Donahue (Administrative Deputy Director of the Antioch
    Branch) (collectively the “County”).
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2753
    proposed use of the meeting room.3 Faith Center expressed a
    desire to hold Saturday morning meetings in the Antioch
    meeting room every other month.
    Before the district court, Faith Center argued that the
    County discriminated against Faith Center on the basis of the
    church’s viewpoint when it enforced its old policy prohibiting
    access to the meeting room for “religious purposes” and can-
    celled Faith Center’s July 31, 2004 meeting. Faith Center also
    asserted that enforcement of any of the County’s “Religious
    Use” policies, including the current one barring “religious ser-
    vices,” would result in viewpoint discrimination in violation
    of the First Amendment.
    The County agreed that its former meeting room policies
    were overly broad and that Faith Center’s morning “word-
    shop” at the May 29th meeting was the type of religious
    speech activity that would be permitted under the current pol-
    icy. The County, however, argued that barring Faith Center’s
    religious worship services from the meeting room was a per-
    missible exclusion of a category of speech meant to preserve
    a limited public forum for its intended uses. The County
    viewed Faith Center’s May 29th afternoon “praise and wor-
    ship” session as mere religious worship exceeding the purpose
    for which the meeting room forum had been created.4
    The district court granted Faith Center’s motion for a pre-
    3
    Faith Center also alleged that enforcement of the Library policy was
    hostile to religion in violation of the Establishment Clause; that the
    Library policy was facially invalid because the County had created a des-
    ignated public forum and the policy’s regulation of speech was not justi-
    fied by a compelling governmental interest; and that the County violated
    Faith Center’s right to equal protection. The district court did not address
    these separate claims.
    4
    Although the County applied the “religious purposes” policy in exis-
    tence at the time it cancelled the July 31st meeting, the County has consis-
    tently maintained that it would bar religious worship services from the
    library meeting room under the revised policy.
    2754               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    liminary injunction. See Faith Center Church Evangelistic
    Ministries v. Glover, No. 04-03111, 
    2005 WL 1220947
     (N.D.
    Cal. May 23, 2005). The district court concluded that Faith
    Center was substantially likely to prevail on its claim that
    enforcement of the County’s past or current library meeting
    room policies to exclude Faith Center’s proposed religious
    worship activities would result in unconstitutional viewpoint
    discrimination. The district court granted relief on the basis of
    Faith Center’s as applied challenge.
    The district court based its order on four legal premises: (1)
    religious worship is speech protected by the First Amend-
    ment; (2) religious worship cannot be distinguished from
    other forms of religious speech; (3) the exclusion of religious
    worship from otherwise permissible speech of a religious
    nature constitutes viewpoint discrimination; (4) there was no
    compelling Establishment Clause concern to justify Faith
    Center’s exclusion.5
    As the district court made clear, it proceeded on the basis
    that the afternoon “praise and worship” session constituted
    pure religious worship services.6 Faith Center did not dispute
    5
    In light of the district court’s determination that the County discrimi-
    nated against Faith Center’s speech on the basis of viewpoint, the court
    did not address the nature of the forum created by the County’s policy of
    opening its library meeting rooms to the public.
    6
    The transcripts of the preliminary injunction hearing show that the dis-
    trict court understood that the afternoon session constituted pure religious
    worship services, even as Faith Center’s other activities earlier in the day
    did not:
    [Counsel for the County]: I have to take issue a little bit with the
    characterization that it is defendants who have characterized what
    Faith Center is doing as worship. Faith Center has characterized
    it that way, your honor.
    The Court: I know. They are making the argument even assuming
    it’s worship. That gets into a set of new questions.
    ***
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2755
    this contention because it argued that even if the afternoon
    session was mere religious worship, the court could not draw
    a constitutionally permissible distinction between afternoon
    worship and the rest of Faith Center’s religious speech activi-
    ties. Thus, as the parties do, we understand the district court’s
    grant of preliminary injunctive relief to enjoin application of
    the County’s policy to bar religious worship services. This
    appeal followed.
    II.
    We have jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1292. We will
    reverse the grant of a preliminary injunction when the district
    court has abused its discretion or has based its decision on an
    erroneous legal standard or on clearly erroneous findings of
    fact. See Satava v. Lowry, 
    323 F.3d 805
    , 810 (9th Cir. 2003).
    Application of erroneous legal principles by the district court
    is an abuse of discretion. See A&M Records, Inc. v. Napster,
    Inc., 
    239 F.3d 1004
    , 1013 (9th Cir. 2001). Underlying issues
    of law are reviewed de novo, including the claim that the dis-
    trict court relied on an erroneous legal premise to arrive at its
    decision to grant a preliminary injunction. See id. Thus, we
    must determine “whether the court employed the appropriate
    legal standards governing the issuance of a preliminary
    injunction and whether the district court correctly appre-
    hended the law with respect to the underlying issues in the
    The Court: What is your bottom line? Is your bottom line then the
    Court cannot issue any injunction which has the effect of preclud-
    ing, as you would call it or the courts call it, mere worship in the
    library rooms?
    [Counsel for Faith Center]: That’s right, your honor.
    The dissent dismisses Faith Center’s representation at the preliminary
    injunction hearing. See Dissent Op., at 2786 n.2. However, the representa-
    tion is consistent with other evidence in the record that Faith Center
    intended its afternoon session to consist of religious worship services. See
    supra at 2750-51.
    2756             FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    case.” Sammartano v. First Judicial Dist. Court, 
    303 F.3d 959
    , 965 (9th Cir. 2002) (internal quotation marks and cita-
    tion omitted).
    III.
    A preliminary injunction may issue when the moving party
    demonstrates either “(1) a combination of probable success on
    the merits and the possibility of irreparable harm; or (2) that
    serious questions are raised and the balance of hardships tips
    in its favor.” A&M Records, Inc., 239 F.3d at 1013. “These
    formulations are not different tests but represent two points on
    a sliding scale in which the degree of irreparable harm
    increases as the probability of success on the merits
    decreases.” Associated Gen. Contractors of Cal. v. Coal. for
    Econ. Equity, 
    950 F.2d 1401
    , 1410, (9th Cir. 1991) (internal
    quotation marks and citation omitted). Accordingly, “if the
    movant has a 100% probability of success on the merits, this
    alone entitles it to reversal of a district court’s denial of a pre-
    liminary injunction, without regard to the balance of the hard-
    ships.” Sammartano, 303 F.3d at 965 (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    Because the district court concluded that enforcement of
    the County’s library meeting room policy was substantially
    likely to violate Faith Center’s right to freedom of expression,
    the court also concluded that Faith Center had demonstrated
    the requisite irreparable harm. See Elrod v. Burns, 
    427 U.S. 347
    , 373 (1976) (“The loss of First Amendment freedoms, for
    even minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes
    irreparable injury.”); Sammartano, 303 F.3d at 973 (“[A]
    party seeking preliminary injunctive relief in a First Amend-
    ment context can establish irreparable injury sufficient to
    merit the grant of relief by demonstrating the existence of a
    colorable First Amendment claim.” (internal quotation marks
    and citation omitted)). We agree that the existence of a color-
    able First Amendment claim in this case is sufficient to dem-
    onstrate irreparable injury. We therefore confine our review to
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2757
    determining whether Faith Center has demonstrated a likeli-
    hood of success on the merits of its First Amendment “as
    applied” challenge.7
    IV.
    A.
    As a preliminary matter, our inquiry ends if Faith Center’s
    religious services do not constitute “speech” subject to First
    Amendment protection. We conclude that Faith Center
    engaged in protected speech when its participants met in the
    Antioch Library for prayer, praise, and worship. See Widmar
    v. Vincent, 
    454 U.S. 263
    , 269 (1981) (“[R]eligious worship
    and discussion . . . are forms of speech and association pro-
    tected by the First Amendment.”); Good News Club v. Mil-
    ford Cent. Sch., 
    533 U.S. 98
    , 111 (2001) (finding that
    activities “quintessentially religious” in nature such as reli-
    gious instruction, prayer, and discussion and recitation of the
    Bible, are protected speech); Lamb’s Chapel v. Center
    Moriches Union Free Sch. Dist., 
    508 U.S. 384
    , 393-94 (1993)
    (finding that the presentation of cultural and educational sub-
    ject matter from a religious perspective is speech protected by
    the First Amendment).
    [1] The Constitution, however, does not guarantee that all
    forms of protected speech may be heard on government prop-
    erty. “[T]he Government, ‘no less than a private owner of
    property, has power to preserve the property under its control
    for the use to which it is lawfully dedicated.’ ” Cornelius v.
    NAACP Legal Def. & Educ. Fund, 
    473 U.S. 788
    , 800 (1985)
    (quoting Greer v. Spock, 
    424 U.S. 828
    , 836 (1976)). The
    7
    Because we conclude that the district court erred in granting relief on
    the basis of Faith Center’s First Amendment as applied challenge, we need
    not address Faith Center’s other constitutional arguments. See supra note
    3. Upon remand, the district court may address these claims in the first
    instance.
    2758           FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    Supreme Court has adopted a forum analysis to balance
    “when the Government’s interest in limiting the use of its
    property to its intended purpose outweighs the interest of
    those wishing to use the property for other purposes.” United
    States v. Kokinda, 
    497 U.S. 720
    , 726 (1990) (internal quota-
    tion marks and citation omitted). Thus, we must at the outset
    determine the nature of the forum established by the County
    when it opened the Antioch Library meeting room to various
    community groups.
    We begin our forum analysis by “identify[ing] the nature of
    the forum” and “whether the forum [at issue] is public or non-
    public.” Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 797. Forum analysis has tradi-
    tionally divided government property into three categories:
    public fora, designated public fora, and nonpublic fora. Di-
    Loreto v. Downey Unified Sch. Dist. Bd. of Educ., 
    196 F.3d 958
    , 964 (9th Cir. 1999). Once the forum is identified, we
    determine whether restrictions on speech are justified by the
    requisite standard. Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 797.
    [2] Traditional public fora such as public streets and parks
    are locations that “by long tradition or by government fiat
    have been devoted to assembly and debate.” Perry Educ.
    Ass’n v. Perry Local Educators’ Ass’n, 
    460 U.S. 37
    , 45
    (1983). When the government intentionally dedicates its prop-
    erty to expressive conduct, it also creates a public forum. Id.
    Such designated public fora cannot be created by inaction; the
    government must “intentionally open[ ] a nontraditional
    forum for public discourse.” Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 802. The
    ability of the government to limit speech in a traditional or
    designated public forum is sharply circumscribed. Content-
    based regulation is justified only when “necessary to serve a
    compelling state interest and [when] it is narrowly drawn to
    achieve that end.” Perry, 460 U.S. at 45. Content-neutral
    restrictions that regulate the time, place, and manner of
    speech are permissible so long as they are “narrowly tailored
    to serve a significant government interest, and [they] leave
    open ample alternative channels of communication.” Id.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2759
    [3] Any public property that is not by tradition or designa-
    tion a forum for public communication is classified as a non-
    public forum. See DiLoreto, 196 F.3d at 965. Regulation of
    speech in a nonpublic forum is subject to less demanding judi-
    cial scrutiny. “The challenged regulation need only be reason-
    able, as long as the regulation is not an effort to suppress the
    speaker’s activity due to disagreement with the speaker’s
    view.” Int’l Soc. for Krishna Consciousness v. Lee, 
    505 U.S. 672
    , 679 (1992).
    [4] We have recognized that the Supreme Court, in deci-
    sions subsequent to Perry and Cornelius, has identified
    another category—the “limited public forum”—to describe a
    nonpublic forum that the government intentionally has opened
    to certain groups or for the discussion of certain topics. See
    DiLoreto, 196 F.3d at 965 (citing Rosenberger v. Rector &
    Visitors of the Univ. of Virginia, 
    515 U.S. 819
    , 829 (1995)).
    Restrictions governing access to a limited public forum are
    permitted so long as they are viewpoint neutral and reason-
    able in light of the purpose served by the forum.8
    8
    We have previously noted that “[t]he contours of the terms ‘designated
    public forum’ and ‘limited public forum’ have not always been clear.”
    DiLoreto, 196 F.3d at 965 n.4. The terms are not interchangeable. A lim-
    ited public forum is a sub-category of the designated public forum, where
    the government opens a nonpublic forum but reserves access to it for only
    certain groups or categories of speech. Hopper v. City of Pasco, 
    241 F.3d 1067
    , 1074-75 (9th Cir. 2001). In a limited public forum, we review
    restrictions on speech that are viewpoint neutral for their reasonableness.
    Other courts follow the same practice. See, e.g., Bowman v. White, 
    444 F.3d 967
    , 975-76 (8th Cir. 2006) (eschewing the terminology of desig-
    nated or limited public forum in favor of a designated public forum classi-
    fied as either of a “limited” or “unlimited” character); Warren v. Fairfax
    County, 
    196 F.3d 186
    , 193-94 (4th Cir. 1999) (en banc); Kreimer v.
    Bureau of Police of Morristown, 
    958 F.2d 1242
    , 1261 & n.21 (3d Cir.
    1992); Travis v. Owego-Apalachin Sch. Dist., 
    927 F.2d 688
    , 692 (2d Cir.
    1991).
    2760            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    B.
    We conclude that the Antioch Library meeting room is a
    limited public forum and that enforcement of the County’s
    policy to exclude religious worship services from the meeting
    room is reasonable in light of the forum’s purpose. It is clear,
    and neither party contends otherwise, that the forum created
    by the County is neither a traditional public forum nor a non-
    public forum. Rather, the parties dispute whether the Antioch
    meeting room constitutes a designated or limited public
    forum.
    [5] In evaluating the type of forum at issue, we look to “the
    policy and practice of the government, the nature of the prop-
    erty and its compatibility with expressive activity, and
    whether the forum was designed and dedicated to expressive
    activity.” Children of the Rosary v. City of Phoenix, 
    154 F.3d 927
    , 976 (9th Cir. 1998) (citing Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 802-
    03); see also Am. Civil Liberties Union of Nev. v. City of Las
    Vegas, 
    333 F.3d 1092
    , 1098 (9th Cir. 2003). The purpose of
    our inquiry is to discern the government’s intent in making
    the forum available for public use. See Cornelius, 473 U.S. at
    802.
    [6] The County’s library meeting room policy allows
    “[n]on-profit and civic organizations, for-profit organizations,
    schools and governmental organizations” to use a branch
    Library meeting room for “meetings, programs, or activities
    of educational, cultural or community interest.” Evidently, the
    County’s purpose was to invite the community at large to par-
    ticipate in use of the meeting room for expressive activity. In
    practice, the County has allowed a variety of community
    groups to hold meetings in the Antioch Library meeting room,
    including the Sierra Club for purposes of letter writing, Nar-
    cotics Anonymous for a recovery meeting, and the East Con-
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                       2761
    tra Costa Democratic Club to “let people learn about
    Democratic candidates and issues.”9
    A policy with a broad purpose however is not dispositive
    of an intent to create a public forum by designation. In Good
    News Club, the Supreme Court adopted the Second Circuit’s
    conclusion that the State of New York had created a limited
    public forum when it made its public schools available for
    “social, civic and recreational meetings and entertainment
    events, and other uses pertaining to the welfare of the commu-
    nity.” Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 102, 106 (internal quota-
    tion marks omitted). Other courts have interpreted similar
    broadly worded policies to create limited public fora. See
    Bronx Household of Faith v. Bd. of Ed. of City of New York,
    
    331 F.3d 342
    , 346 (2d Cir. 2003) (recognizing that the same
    New York State policy at issue in Good News Club created
    a limited public forum); Campbell v. St. Tammany Parish Sch.
    Bd., No. Civ. A. 98-2605, 
    2003 WL 21783317
    , at * 1 (E.D.
    La. July 30, 2003) (unpublished) (holding that school board’s
    policy of granting access for “civic and recreational meetings
    . . . and other uses pertaining to the welfare of the communi-
    ty” created a limited public forum).10
    [7] Here, the County’s policy and practices make clear that
    the County did not intend for the Antioch Library meeting
    room to be open for indiscriminate use. The County’s policy
    excludes schools from using the meeting room “for instruc-
    tional purposes as a regular part of the curriculum” and orga-
    9
    Faith Center offers examples of other applicants seeking access to
    other library meeting rooms in the County. As the district court correctly
    noted, however, the relevant forum is “defined by the access sought by the
    speaker,” DiLoreto, 196 F.3d at 965, and in this case the forum is the Anti-
    och Library meeting room.
    10
    We have also interpreted policies with a “broad purpose” to neverthe-
    less create a limited public forum. See, e.g., Hills v. Scottsdale Unified
    Sch. Dist., 
    329 F.3d 1044
    , 1051 (9th Cir. 2003) (holding that school policy
    to distribute flyers about summer activities that are “of interest to school-
    children” established a limited public forum).
    2762            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    nizations who wish to engage in “religious services.”
    Additionally, the policy requires a potential user to submit an
    application describing the intended use and identifying the
    applicant. Thereafter, the application must be reviewed and
    approved in advance by the County. Requiring prior permis-
    sion for access to forum demonstrates that a public forum has
    not been created by designation. See Cornelius, 473 U.S. at
    803. Finally, the policy requires an applicant to pay a fee for
    certain proposed uses. By charging a fee in certain circum-
    stances, the County has demonstrated its desire to limit access
    to the library meeting room for certain purposes and speakers.
    The record indicates that the County has consistently
    applied its policy restrictions. Faith Center does not contend
    that the County has ever failed to screen an application or that
    the County has granted access to an applicant on a non-policy
    basis. See Hopper, 241 F.3d at 1076 (“[C]onsistency in appli-
    cation is the hallmark of any policy designed to preserve the
    non-public status of a forum.”)
    [8] The nature of the forum also supports the conclusion
    that, although the community at large has been invited to use
    the room, the library meeting room was not intended to be
    open for unlimited public expression. A library is quintessen-
    tially “a place dedicated to quiet, to knowledge, and to beau-
    ty,” Brown v. Louisiana, 
    383 U.S. 131
    , 142 (1966); where
    “the worthy missions of facilitating learning and cultural
    enrichment” are fostered, United States v. Am. Library Ass’n,
    
    539 U.S. 194
    , 203 (2003); and whose “very purpose is to aid
    in the acquisition of knowledge through reading, writing and
    quiet contemplation,” Kreimer, 958 F.2d at 1261.
    We also note that the Antioch meeting room is located
    within the Antioch Branch Library itself, that the meeting
    room is accessible during normal operating hours when other
    library patrons are present, and that sound can be heard by
    nonparticipants. Thus, while the Library meeting room is
    compatible with different kinds of expressive activity such as
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                2763
    a group discussion or lecture, we are mindful that the forum
    was not intended to undermine the library’s primary function
    as a venue for reading, writing, and quiet contemplation.
    [9] The County’s policy delineating the speakers and uses
    appropriate for the Library meeting room, its consistent
    screening of applications, and its requirement of a fee in lim-
    ited circumstances, underscores our conclusion that the Anti-
    och forum was not dedicated for indiscriminate use. We
    therefore hold that the Antioch Library meeting room is a lim-
    ited public forum whose restrictions to access may be “based
    on subject matter . . . so long as the distinctions drawn are rea-
    sonable in light of the purpose served by the forum and are
    viewpoint neutral.” Cornelius, 473 U.S. at 806. We proceed
    next to the question of whether the County’s decision to pro-
    hibit Faith Center from conducting religious worship services
    in the Library meeting room is reasonable in light of the pur-
    pose served by the forum.
    C.
    [10] “[R]easonableness analysis focuses on whether the
    limitation is consistent with preserving the property for the
    purpose to which it is dedicated.” DiLoreto, 196 F.3d at 967
    (internal quotation marks omitted). Although the actual forum
    is a library meeting room, the nature and function of the
    County’s public library as a whole is relevant in evaluating
    the reasonableness of the County’s exclusions. See id. at 968.
    [11] The purpose of the County’s library policy is to make
    its library meeting rooms available as a community resource
    for different kinds of expressive activity such as meetings,
    discussions, lectures, and other “meetings, programs, or activ-
    ities of educational, cultural or community interest.” The
    County’s policy regulates use of the meeting room to preserve
    the character of the forum as a common meeting space, an
    alternative to the community lecture hall, the corporate board-
    room, or the local Starbucks. The library policy, for example,
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    prohibits schools from using the meeting room as a regular
    part of the school’s curriculum. The County’s exclusion of
    schools is reasonable in light of its purpose. To allow the
    meeting room to be converted into a classroom would trans-
    form the character of the forum from a community meeting
    room to a public school.
    By the same token, the County’s decision to exclude Faith
    Center’s religious worship services from the meeting room is
    reasonable in light of the library policy so that the Antioch
    forum is not transformed into an occasional house of worship.
    Faith Center acknowledges that it seeks to reach out to those
    individuals who might not enter a traditional church building,
    and to bring the evangelical church experience to them. We
    see nothing wrong with the County excluding certain subject
    matter or activities that it deems inconsistent with the forum’s
    purpose, so long as the County does not discriminate against
    a speaker’s viewpoint. To conclude that the County’s exclu-
    sion of religious worship services from its government build-
    ings is unreasonable would result in the “remarkable
    proposition that any public [building] opened for civic meet-
    ings must be opened for use as a church, synagogue, or
    mosque.” Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 139 (Souter, J., dis-
    senting).
    The County also has a reasonable interest in limiting the
    Library meeting room to uses that could potentially interfere
    with the primary function of the library. In DiLoreto, a school
    district policy excluded subject matter that was deemed too
    sensitive or controversial from advertisements on a high
    school’s baseball fence. 196 F.3d at 966. “The District’s con-
    cerns regarding disruption and potential controversy” were
    found reasonable in light of the circumstance of having a lim-
    ited forum (the advertisement fence) within a public second-
    ary school. Id. at 968. We thus upheld the exclusion of an
    advertisement containing the text of the Ten Commandments
    because it was inconsistent with the limited purpose served by
    the forum.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                   2765
    [12] Here too, the County has a legitimate interest in
    screening applications and excluding meeting room activities
    that may interfere with the library’s primary function as a
    sanctuary for reading, writing, and quiet contemplation. The
    County reasonably could conclude that the controversy and
    distraction of religious worship within the Antioch Library
    meeting room may alienate patrons and undermine the
    library’s purpose of making itself available to the whole com-
    munity. See id. We therefore conclude that the County’s pro-
    hibition on religious worship services is reasonable in light of
    the purpose served by the Library meeting room.11
    V.
    Although the County’s policy, and its decision to bar Faith
    Center from using the Library meeting room to conduct reli-
    gious worship services, is reasonable in light of the forum’s
    purpose, Faith Center is likely to succeed on the merits of its
    First Amendment claim if it can establish that the County dis-
    criminated against it because of its religious viewpoint.
    In a limited public forum, the government is free to reserve
    access to the forum “for certain groups or for the discussion
    of certain topics.” Rosenberger, 515 U.S. at 829. Access may
    not be restricted, however, if the “rationale for the restriction”
    is the “specific motivating ideology or the opinion or perspec-
    tive of the speaker.” Id. We must identify whether the Coun-
    ty’s exclusion of Faith Center’s religious worship services
    from the Library meeting room is “content discrimination,
    which may be permissible if it preserves the purpose of that
    limited forum, [or] viewpoint discrimination, which is pre-
    sumed impermissible when directed against speech otherwise
    within the forum’s limitations.” Id. at 829-30.
    11
    The County, however, acknowledges that it may not bar Faith Center
    from using the Library meeting room to conduct activities that express a
    religious viewpoint on otherwise permissible subject matter.
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    We hold that the exclusion of Faith Center’s religious wor-
    ship services from the Antioch Library meeting room is a per-
    missible limitation on the subject matter that may be
    discussed in the meeting room, and that it is not suppression
    of a prohibited perspective from an otherwise permissible
    topic. In so holding, we address two arguments raised by
    Faith Center that bear directly on our analysis. First, Faith
    Center contends that the prohibition on religious worship ser-
    vices is impermissible viewpoint discrimination because
    “prayer, praise and worship” is an educational, cultural, and
    community-related activity that has been suppressed due to
    Faith Center’s religious perspective.
    Second, Faith Center argues that its religious worship can-
    not be distinguished from other religious speech that is per-
    mitted in the Antioch Library, and to attempt a judicially
    enforceable distinction would entangle the government with
    religion in a manner forbidden by the Establishment Clause.
    A.
    [13] We first address whether the County has discriminated
    on the basis of content or viewpoint. “Content discrimination
    occurs when the government chooses the subjects that may be
    discussed, while viewpoint discrimination occurs when the
    government prohibits speech by particular speakers, thereby
    suppressing a particular view about a subject.” Giebel v. Syl-
    vester, 
    244 F.3d 1182
    , 1188 (9th Cir. 2001) (internal quota-
    tion marks omitted). The distinction between regulation on
    the basis of subject matter or viewpoint, however, “is not a
    precise one,” Rosenberger, 515 U.S. at 831, and as this court
    has recognized, “the level at which ‘subject matter’ is defined
    can control whether discrimination is held to be on the basis
    of content or viewpoint,” Giebel, 244 F.3d at 1188 n.10; see
    also Robert C. Post, Subsidized Speech, 106 YALE L.J. 151,
    166 & n.96 (1996).
    The Supreme Court’s decision in Boos v. Barry exemplifies
    the difficulty of identifying whether a regulation excludes an
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2767
    entire category of speech or restricts a prohibited viewpoint.
    
    485 U.S. 312
     (1988) (plurality opinion). In Boos, the Court
    reviewed a statute that prohibited the display of signs dispar-
    aging a foreign government from within 500 feet of that gov-
    ernment’s embassy. The plaintiffs argued that the statute
    discriminated on the basis of viewpoint because speech that
    favored the foreign government was permitted. From plain-
    tiffs’ standpoint, the subject matter regulated by the statute
    was ‘speech concerning a foreign government’ and the restric-
    tion improperly favored one side of the debate. The Court
    rejected this argument by defining the subject matter of the
    regulation at a different level of generality: speech against
    foreign governments. Because the statute excluded this entire
    category of speech without regard to any particular foreign
    government or criticism, a plurality of the Court concluded
    that the statute was viewpoint-neutral. Id. at 319.
    [14] In Lamb’s Chapel, the Court articulated a test for dis-
    tinguishing between content and viewpoint discrimination. A
    religious group seeking to show a film series on child rearing
    from a Christian perspective was denied access to a school
    facility because of the school district’s policy barring use of
    the rooms for religious purposes. The Court unanimously held
    that the school district “discriminate[d] on the basis of view-
    point [by] permit[ting] school property to be used for the pre-
    sentation of all views about family issues and child rearing
    except those dealing with the subject matter from a religious
    standpoint.” 508 U.S. at 393. The test is whether the govern-
    ment has excluded perspectives on a subject matter otherwise
    permitted by the forum.
    The Court applied that test in Rosenberger. In Rosenberger,
    the Court considered whether a University of Virginia policy
    of excluding religious publications from eligibility for student
    funds was viewpoint discrimination or a content-based exclu-
    sion. The University sought to avoid a possible Establishment
    Clause violation by excluding funding that supported “reli-
    gious activity,” including student publications that espoused
    2768            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    and promoted religious beliefs. See 515 U.S. at 825. The
    majority determined, however, that “the University [did] not
    exclude religion as a subject matter but select[ed] for disfa-
    vored treatment those student journalistic efforts with reli-
    gious editorial viewpoints.” Id. at 831. Because other student
    publications were free to discuss the topic of religion from a
    myriad of views other than the prohibited perspective, the
    University had discriminated on the basis of viewpoint. Id.
    Most recently, in Good News Club v. Milford Central
    School, the Court held that a school district engaged in view-
    point discrimination when it refused to allow a Christian chil-
    dren’s club (“Club”) to offer a religious perspective on moral
    and character development in a school forum that was open
    to wide community involvement. The school district allowed
    its facilities to be used for activities “pertaining to the welfare
    of the community,” and the facilities were available to any
    group that promoted the moral and character development of
    children. See 533 U.S. at 108. Comparing the circumstances
    to Lamb’s Chapel, the Court found that the school district had
    discriminated on the basis of viewpoint by denying the Club
    the opportunity to teach moral and character development to
    children from a religious perspective. See id. at 111 (“What
    matters for purposes of the Free Speech Clause is that we can
    see no logical difference in kind between the invocation of
    Christianity by the Club and the invocation of teamwork, loy-
    alty, or patriotism by other associations to provide a founda-
    tion for their lessons.”). Once again, the focus was on whether
    some other group had been permitted to engage in the same
    kind of speech activity from a perspective other than the pro-
    hibited one.
    Good News Club is notable for two other reasons. First, the
    Court concluded that even activities that are “quintessentially
    religious” can be used to further the purpose of moral instruc-
    tion and character development. In Good News Club, the Club
    taught morality and character development by singing songs,
    relating stories from the Bible, reciting verses, memorizing
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2769
    Scripture, and prayer. See id. at 103. For the Court’s purposes
    however, “[t]he only apparent difference between the activity
    of Lamb’s Chapel and the activities of the Good News Club
    is that the Club chooses to teach moral lessons from a Chris-
    tian perspective through live storytelling and prayer, whereas
    Lamb’s Chapel taught lessons through films.” Id. at 110.
    Second, the Court drew a distinction between the Club’s
    activities and “mere religious worship, divorced from any
    teaching of moral values.” Id. at 112 n.4. Although the school
    district contended that the Club’s activities constituted reli-
    gious worship, the Court rejected that characterization and
    noted that the court of appeals made no such determination.
    The Court drew a line at religious worship because it did not
    regard worship in this case as merely a “viewpoint from
    which ideas are conveyed.” Id. To the contrary, pure religious
    worship held a purpose unto itself, and it exceeded the bound-
    aries of a forum limited to a discussion of the moral and char-
    acter development of children. See id. at 138 n.3, 
    121 S. Ct. 2093
     (Souter, J., dissenting).12
    Turning to Faith Center’s argument, we disagree that pro-
    hibiting religious worship services in the Antioch Library
    meeting room constitutes viewpoint discrimination. The test,
    as we have articulated, is whether the government has
    excluded a perspective on a subject matter otherwise permit-
    ted in the forum. To determine whether “religious worship”
    is a perspective on an allowable topic, we are guided by the
    Court’s approach in Good News Club and draw reference
    from events and activities that have been hosted at the Anti-
    och meeting room forum. See id. at 108.
    12
    It should be noted that Justice Scalia’s concurrence embraced the posi-
    tion that the majority was not willing to take. Justice Scalia argued that a
    distinction could not be made between the Club’s activities and religious
    worship, and that in any event, the forum could not restrict religious wor-
    ship from taking place there. See id. at 125-26.
    2770               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    [15] As noted above, the County acknowledged that Faith
    Center’s morning activities on May 29, 2004 were permissi-
    ble under the County’s current policy. According to Faith
    Center’s flyer describing the day’s events, the morning
    “Wordshop” consisted of “ ‘The Making of an Intercessor,’ an
    Endtime call to Prayer for every Believer, and how to pray
    fervent, effectual Prayers that God hears and answers.” In
    other words, the morning workshop was devoted to the topic
    of communication and how to communicate effectively with
    one’s God. Although Faith Center’s activities may have
    included “quintessentially religious” speech such as a call to
    prayer, Good News Club makes clear that such speech in fur-
    therance of communicating an idea from a religious point of
    view cannot be grounds for exclusion.
    [16] It is clear that “communication” is a permissible topic
    of discussion in the Antioch Library meeting room. If the
    Antioch Speech and Debate club applied to use the meeting
    room to discuss the art of oratory and effective communica-
    tion of secular subjects, the County would not likely reject
    such a proposal. It would therefore be viewpoint discrimina-
    tion for the County to exclude Faith Center’s perspective on
    the subject of communication because of the religious content
    of Faith Center’s speech.
    Other activities that occur at Faith Center’s meetings are
    also permissible in the Antioch meeting room. Faith Center
    explains that meeting participants sometimes “engage in dis-
    cussing the Bible and other religious books [as well as] teach-
    ing, praying, singing, sharing testimonies, sharing meals, and
    discussing social and political issues.” These activities convey
    a religious perspective on subjects that are or have been per-
    mitted in the Antioch Library meeting room, such as a discus-
    sion of the Bible, discussions of social and political issues,
    and sharing life experiences.13
    13
    Although the library meeting room policy refers to implementing rules
    and regulations, those rules and regulations were not a part of the district
    court record. We therefore refrain from commenting on the permissibility
    of singing, eating, and drinking in the Antioch Library meeting room.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2771
    The County, for example, permits meetings by the East
    Contra Costa Democratic Club to “let people learn about
    Democratic candidates and issues”—in essence to discuss
    social and political issues from the standpoint of the Demo-
    cratic Party. A Narcotics Anonymous recovery meeting
    includes sharing personal life experiences similar to sharing
    testimonials of one’s personal experiences with God and faith.
    A letter-writing campaign by the Sierra Club involves the dis-
    cussion and communication of matters of social and political
    interest to its members. Discussions of the Bible and other
    religious and literary texts are also clearly permissible in the
    library. Thus, to exclude Faith Center from discussing topics
    that are appropriate to the forum because of a prohibited reli-
    gious perspective would constitute viewpoint discrimination
    in violation of the First Amendment.
    [17] Faith Center’s afternoon activities on May 29th, how-
    ever, did not consist of religious viewpoint activities. Faith
    Center occupied the Antioch forum expressly for “praise and
    worship” and in doing so Faith Center exceeded the bounda-
    ries of the library’s limited forum. The district court under-
    stood, and Faith Center did not dispute, the contention that the
    afternoon activities constituted pure religious worship ser-
    vices. Rather, Faith Center argued before the district court
    that its religious worship could not be distinguished from the
    rest of its religious speech, and for the court to make such a
    distinction was constitutionally impermissible.
    Pure religious worship, however, is not a secular activity
    that conveys a religious viewpoint on otherwise permissible
    subject matter. For every other topic of discussion that Faith
    Center engages in—the Bible, communication, social and
    political issues, life experiences—religious and non-religious
    perspectives exist. The same can be said for moral and char-
    acter development in Good News Club, child rearing in
    Lamb’s Chapel, and the topic of religion itself in Rosenber-
    ger.
    2772              FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    [18] Religious worship, on the other hand, is not a view-
    point but a category of discussion within which many differ-
    ent religious perspectives abound. If the County had, for
    example, excluded from its forum religious worship services
    by Mennonites, then we would conclude that the County had
    engaged in unlawful viewpoint discrimination against the
    Mennonite religion. But a blanket exclusion of religious wor-
    ship services from the forum is one based on the content of
    speech.
    Faith Center contends that because a religious worship ser-
    vice is an “educational, cultural and community related”
    activity, excluding religious worship services from the forum
    when other community-related activities are permitted
    amounts to viewpoint discrimination. Although religious wor-
    ship is an important institution in any community, we disagree
    that anything remotely community-related must therefore be
    granted access to the Antioch Library meeting room. That
    argument was rejected in Good News Club when the Court
    distinguished the Club’s activities from “mere religious wor-
    ship” and implicitly acknowledged that religious worship
    exceeded the boundaries of the limited public forum. See
    Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 112 n.4.14
    Faith Center’s reliance on the Second Circuit’s decision in
    Bronx Household of Faith is misplaced. In Bronx Household
    of Faith, an evangelical Christian church sought access to a
    public school building for Sunday meetings that consisted of
    singing Christian hymns, prayer, Biblical preaching and
    14
    It is difficult to imagine moreover that religious worship could ever
    truly be divorced from moral instruction or character development. That
    is not what the majority in Good News Club meant when it wrote: “we
    conclude that the Club’s activities do not constitute mere religious wor-
    ship, divorced from any teaching of moral values.” See id. That statement
    must be taken in its proper context. The defendant district opened the
    forum in part for the moral and character development of children. As
    here, pure religious worship was too tenuously associated to the forum’s
    purpose.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2773
    teaching, communion, and social fellowship. 331 F.3d at 347.
    The court concluded that, like Good News Club, the proposed
    meetings did not “constitute only religious worship, separate
    and apart from any teaching of moral values.” Id. at 354. The
    court was guided by Justice Souter’s description of the Club’s
    activities in Good News Club.15 Justice Souter characterized
    the Club’s meetings as “an evangelical service of worship,”
    combining teaching with “elements of worship.” 533 U.S. at
    138 n.3. The court found that the proposed meetings in Bronx
    Household of Faith were materially indistinguishable from
    Good News Club’s activities and therefore Good News Club
    controlled the outcome of its case.
    Bronx Household of Faith is inapposite because here we
    simply do not have “elements of worship” that further secular
    goals. Faith Center’s afternoon activities on May 29, 2004, as
    described by Faith Center itself, consisted entirely of praise
    and religious worship. The Second Circuit made clear that its
    “ruling [was] confined to the district court’s finding that the
    [church’s] activities . . . [were] not simply religious worship,
    divorced from any teaching of moral values or other activities
    permitted in the forum.” 331 F.3d at 354. Bronx Household
    of Faith is also distinguishable because of the nature of the
    forum. There, the church sought to rent empty school rooms
    for its Sunday meetings away from other public activity. The
    Antioch Library meeting room, on the other hand, is in the
    Antioch Branch Library and is available only during the
    Library’s operating hours when other library patrons are pres-
    ent. The propriety of religious worship services varies by the
    different circumstances of each forum.16
    15
    The court noted that the majority accepted Justice Souter’s recitation
    of the Club’s activities as accurate. See Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 112
    n.4.
    16
    Indeed, the unique factual circumstances of the County’s limited
    forum set this case apart from the cases primarily relied upon by Faith
    Center to demonstrate the existence of viewpoint discrimination. See, e.g.,
    Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 103; Lamb’s Chapel, 508 U.S. at 386; Bronx
    2774              FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    B.
    We turn to Faith Center’s second argument, that the prohi-
    bition on religious services in the Antioch forum is viewpoint
    discrimination because religious worship cannot be distin-
    guished from other permissible forms of religious speech.
    According to Faith Center, to enforce such a distinction,
    would entangle the government with religion in a manner for-
    bidden by the Establishment Clause.
    Faith Center relies on Widmar v. Vincent for support. In
    Widmar, a religious student organization sought access to
    state university facilities for religious worship and discussion.
    The University made its facilities available for activities by
    registered student groups but prohibited the use of University
    buildings “for purposes of religious worship or religious
    teaching.” 454 U.S. at 265. The Court held that the University
    had created a public forum and therefore it could only “justify
    discriminatory exclusion from a public forum based on the
    religious content of the group’s intended speech” by showing
    that its regulation was necessary to serve a compelling state
    interest and narrowly drawn to achieve that end. Id. at 269-70.
    The University regulation did not survive under the height-
    ened judicial scrutiny.
    In dicta that was not central to the Court’s holding, Justice
    Powell discussed the difficulty he had with the dissent’s con-
    tention that a distinction should be made between religious
    worship and other kinds of religious speech:
    First, the dissent fails to establish that the distinc-
    tion has intelligible content. There is no indication
    Household of Faith, 331 F.3d at 345; Campbell, 
    2003 WL 21783317
     at *
    1. In Concerned Women for America v. Lafayette County, 
    883 F.2d 32
    , 33
    (5th Cir. 1989), the plaintiffs sought access to an auditorium rather than
    a meeting room at a public library. Cf. Southeastern Promotions, Ltd. v.
    Conrad, 
    420 U.S. 546
    , 555 (1975) (municipal auditorium was a public
    forum whose size and design made it conducive for expressive conduct).
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                  2775
    when “singing hymns, reading scripture, and teach-
    ing biblical principles,” cease to be “singing, teach-
    ing, and reading”—all apparently forms of “speech,”
    despite their religious subject matter—and become
    unprotected worship.
    Second, even if the distinction drew an arguably
    principled line, it is highly doubtful that it would lie
    within the judicial competence to administer. Merely
    to draw the distinction would require the university
    —and ultimately the courts—to inquire into the sig-
    nificance of words and practices to different reli-
    gious faiths, and in varying circumstances by the
    same faith. Such inquiries would tend inevitably to
    entangle the State with religion in a manner forbid-
    den by our cases.
    Id. at 269 n.6 (internal citations omitted).
    Faith Center echoes the same arguments. Faith Center asks
    how the County, or courts for that matter, can draw a line
    between permissible components of religious speech—
    singing, sharing testimonials, even prayer in the context of
    discussing how to communicate with God—and impermissi-
    ble religious worship. Further, Faith Center argues that the
    government and courts are not competent to identify when
    certain expressive activity is religious worship. To enforce
    such a distinction would foster an excessive government
    entanglement with religion. See Lemon v. Kurtzman, 
    403 U.S. 602
    , 612-13 (1971).
    As Justice Scalia noted in Good News Club, however,
    “[w]e have drawn a different distinction—between religious
    speech generally and speech about religion—but only with
    regard to restrictions the State must place on its own speech,
    where pervasive state monitoring is unproblematic.” 533 U.S.
    at 126 n.3. School officials routinely draw such distinctions in
    public schools where the subject of religion may be taught but
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    religious speech is barred from the government speaker. See
    Santa Fe Indep. Sch. Dist. v. Doe, 
    530 U.S. 290
     (2000);
    Peloza v. Capistrano Unified Sch. Dist., 
    37 F.3d 517
     (1994).
    The distinction to limit certain kinds of religious speech is
    also made for government employees in the workplace. See
    Berry v. Dep’t of Soc. Serv., 
    447 F.3d 642
    , 655 (9th Cir.
    2006) (“Permitting appellants to evangelize while providing
    services to clients would jeopardize the state’s ability to pro-
    vide services in a religion-neutral matter.” (internal citation
    omitted)).
    We also have recognized that school officials may draw a
    distinction between different kinds of private religious speech
    in order to preserve the intended purpose of a limited public
    forum. In Hills, the court held that a school district’s policy
    to distribute summer camp brochures to students could not
    exclude a brochure that advertised for a religious summer
    camp. See 329 F.3d at 1051. The court noted, however, that
    the school district “is not obligated to distribute material that,
    in the guise of announcing an event, contains direct exhorta-
    tions to religious observance; this exceeds the purpose of the
    forum the District created.” Id. at 1053. We have elsewhere
    endorsed the principle that the government can distinguish
    and exclude proselytizing religious speech to preserve the
    purpose for a limited forum. See, e.g., Prince v. Jacoby, 
    303 F.3d 1074
    , 1086-87 (9th Cir. 2002) (finding that while student
    religious group must be given equal access to school’s public
    address system to announce its activities, the group may be
    barred from doing so to “pray and proselytize”); Lassonde v.
    Pleasanton Unified Sch. Dist., 
    320 F.3d 979
    , 980 (9th Cir.
    2003) (permitting discussion of religious beliefs in a high
    school graduation speech but prohibiting “proselytizing”);
    Cole v. Oroville Union High Sch. Dist., 
    228 F.3d 1092
    , 1104
    (9th Cir. 2000) (upholding school district’s refusal to allow
    valedictorian to give a “sectarian, proselytizing speech” at
    graduation ceremonies).17
    17
    The United States, as amicus curiae in support of Faith Center, argues
    that these school cases are distinguishable because they involve religious
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                     2777
    This case differs from the aforementioned cases in that the
    County may not exclude proselytizing speech from the Anti-
    och forum if that speech helps to convey a viewpoint about
    an otherwise appropriate topic. For example, Faith Center’s
    morning “Wordshop” includes a call to prayer—speech that
    may be properly characterized as proselytizing. Nonetheless,
    because this proselytizing activity also furthers the discussion
    about communication and communicating with a higher
    authority, it cannot be grounds for exclusion.
    The distinction to be drawn here is thus much more
    challenging—one between religious worship and virtually all
    other forms of religious speech—and one that the government
    and the courts are not competent to make. That distinction,
    however, was already made by Faith Center itself when it sep-
    arated its afternoon religious worship service from its morn-
    ing activities. Faith Center admits that it occupied the Antioch
    forum in the afternoon of May 29, 2004 expressly for “praise
    and worship.” The County may not be able to identify
    whether Faith Center has engaged in pure religious worship,
    but Faith Center can and did.18
    VI
    [19] We therefore conclude that prohibiting Faith Center’s
    religious worship services from the Antioch meeting room is
    speech broadcast to a captive audience. We agree that the government may
    be justified in excluding proselytizing speech from its limited fora. The
    point remains, however, that the government is capable of identifying
    proselytizing religious speech or speech that simply has aspects of reli-
    gious worship.
    18
    The dissent raises the specter of inevitable government entanglement
    when a County librarian encounters some future applicant who is less than
    candid about its religious worship activities. See Dissent Op. at 2792. We
    need not speculate about those possibilities. On the limited evidentiary
    record and in light of the procedural posture of this case, we decide only
    that which is before us.
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    a permissible exclusion of a category of speech that is meant
    to preserve the purpose behind the limited public forum. Reli-
    gious worship services can be distinguished from other forms
    of religious speech by the adherents themselves. Because the
    district court erred in enjoining the County from applying its
    library meeting room policy to exclude Faith Center’s reli-
    gious worship services, we reverse the injunction in part.
    [20] The County, however, acknowledged that its prohibi-
    tion on religious worship services could not be applied to bar
    Faith Center from engaging in secular activities that express
    a religious viewpoint. Indeed, the County informed the district
    court that Faith Center’s morning “wordshop” on May 29,
    2004 was a permissible activity even though its purpose was
    to teach people how to pray or communicate with a divine
    presence. To that end, the County invited the district court to
    craft an injunction that ensured Faith Center’s right to conduct
    activities in the meeting room that express a religious view-
    point, and allowed the County to exclude religious worship
    services. We note that the County offered several proposals
    for crafting a preliminary injunction that would achieve these
    balancing objectives and avoid the pitfalls of excessive gov-
    ernment entanglement.19 The district court, however, did not
    consider the County’s suggestion regarding the scope of the
    injunction. We therefore vacate and remand so that the district
    court can craft an appropriate injunction after soliciting the
    views of the parties.
    REVERSED in part, VACATED in part, and REMANDED
    for further proceedings.20
    19
    At the preliminary injunction hearing, the County proposed that its
    meeting room application be altered to include a certification by the appli-
    cant that the meeting room will not be used for religious services. The
    County elaborated that a certification would allow it to rely on the honesty
    of the applicant while avoiding any potential issues of entanglement. We
    express no opinion on the merits of such a proposal.
    20
    In light of our conclusions, we need not address whether the County
    has a necessary and compelling interest in excluding religious worship ser-
    vices from its library meeting rooms to avoid a violation of the Establish-
    ment Clause.
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    Volume 2 of 2
    2780            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    KARLTON, Senior District Judge, Concurring:
    I concur in Judge Paez’s well-reasoned opinion, which
    reflects the sorry state of the law. I write separately to express
    my dismay at that sorry state.
    This should be a simple case it asks whether the county can
    be forced to subsidize a religious organization’s prayer meet-
    ings by requiring it to provide the religious organization with
    a free place to worship. A quick reading of the First Amend-
    ment to the Constitution of the United States should answer
    the question. Judge Paez’s opinion tracks the cases and
    reaches its laborious result because the law has so elaborated
    that the reaching of the conclusion requires the effort the
    opinion demonstrates. As I now explain, that elaboration is
    premised on a failure to accept the plain meaning of the First
    Amendment.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2781
    Both Good News Club v. Milford Cen. Sch., 
    533 U.S. 98
    (2001) and Lambs Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free
    Sch. Dist., 
    508 U.S. 384
     (1993), turn on the High Court’s pur-
    ported inability to distinguish between a sermon and a speech.
    That distinction, however, is compelled by the First Amend-
    ment, which establishes different standards relative to govern-
    ment action concerning speech and government action
    concerning religion. The purported inability of the High Court
    to adhere to the distinction embodied in the First Amendment
    leads it to conclude that the issues tendered by cases, such as
    the one at bar, implicate viewpoint discrimination under the
    free speech provisions of the First Amendment. They simply
    do not. As the First Amendment notes, religious speech is cat-
    egorically different than secular speech and is subject to anal-
    ysis under the Establishment and Free Exercise Clause
    without regard to the jurisprudence of free speech.
    Those, like myself, who advocate adherence to the stric-
    tures of the Establishment Clause, do so not out of hostility
    towards religion. See McCollum v. Board of Education, 
    333 U.S. 203
    , 211-12 (1948); Engel v. Vitale, 
    370 U.S. 421
    , 433-
    34 (1962). Rather, we are motivated by recognition of the pas-
    sions that deeply-held religious views engender, and the seri-
    ous threat of marrying those passions to government power.
    Engel, 370 U.S. at 431-32 (“Another purpose of the Establish-
    ment Clause rested upon an awareness of the historical fact
    that governmentally established religions and religious perse-
    cutions go hand in hand.”).
    That threat is not merely historic. One need only look about
    the world to see that danger in play. The scenario is the same
    whether it is in Northern Ireland where Catholics and Protes-
    tants kill each other in an effort to establish governmental
    power, in Israel, where Jews and Muslims do the same, in
    Iraq, where Shi’a and Sunni are engaged in similar slaughter,
    or in Sudan where Muslims murder Christians. See School
    District of Abington v. Schempp, 
    374 U.S. 203
    , 219 (1963).
    Nor is that the only danger.
    2782            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    Where government plays a role in the religious life of a
    pluralist society, there is the danger that government will
    favor the majority religion and seek to control or prohibit the
    rites of minority religions. See Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita
    Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal, 
    126 S. Ct. 1211
     (2006);
    Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. City of Hialeah,
    
    508 U.S. 520
     (1993); Employment Division v. Smith II, 
    494 U.S. 872
     (1990). Such favor can only lead to alienation and
    social unrest.
    The wall of separation between church and state that
    Thomas Jefferson thought the First Amendment raised, in no
    way prejudices the practice of anyone’s religion. Everson v.
    Board of Ed., 
    330 U.S. 1
    , 15-16 (1947). Instead, it serves the
    salutary purpose of insulating civil society from the excesses
    of the zealous. See id. at 53-54 (J. Rutledge, dissenting). The
    Good News Club and Lamb’s Chapel majorities’ disdain of
    the Jefferson model is premised on the belief that religious
    values enhance rather than endanger society. The legal issue,
    however, is different. It asks whether one can distinguish
    between religious speech in a categorical way, and the answer
    is yes. Of course there may be close cases. Such cases require
    the development of a delicate jurisprudence designed to pro-
    tect the Establishment Clause while insulating religious prac-
    tice from government intrusion.
    In any event it is simply beyond cavil that the instant case
    does not present a close question. Appellees have been com-
    pletely candid in acknowledging that the purpose of the meet-
    ings they proposed to hold on public property is “Prayer,
    Praise and Worship Open to [the] Public, Purpose to Teach
    and Encourage Salvation thru Jesus Christ and Build Up
    Commun[ity].” To assert an inability to conclude that purpose
    is religious in every sense, is to engage in the kind of soph-
    istry that gives the law a bad name. It may be that the majority
    of the Supreme Court really has doubt about the ability to dis-
    tinguish between religious practice and secular speech. If so,
    they need only leave their chambers, go out in the street and
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2783
    ask the first person they meet whether in the instant case the
    conduct is religious in character. It is simply untenable to
    insist that there is no difference between a prayer and e.g.
    political speech. To coin a phrase, one can only pray for the
    court’s enlightenment.
    While I believe that Thomas Jefferson has the better end of
    the debate, that belief is irrelevant. I concur in the opinion
    because, as a subordinate judge, it is my duty to adhere to the
    precedent of the Supreme Court “no matter how misguided.”
    Hutto v. Davis, 
    454 U.S. 370
    , 374 (1982).
    TALLMAN, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    The “Religious Use” exclusion is impermissible viewpoint
    discrimination because Contra Costa County (the “County”)
    opened its public meeting room at the Antioch Library to the
    community in order “to encourage [its use] for educational,
    cultural and community related meetings, programs and activi-
    ties.”1 Notwithstanding the broad and inclusive policy it
    1
    The policy at issue has twice been amended while this litigation was
    pending, Faith Center Church Evangelical Ministries v. Glover, 
    2005 WL 1220947
    , at *1 (N.D. Cal. May 23, 2005), and, as modified by the Board
    of Supervisors of Contra Costa County, California, on December 14, 2004,
    now reads in relevant part:
    Contra Costa County Library
    Policy for the Use of Meeting Rooms in Libraries
    It is the policy of the Contra Costa County Library to encour-
    age the use of library meeting rooms for educational, cultural
    and community related meetings, programs, and activities.
    ***
    RELIGIOUS USE
    Library meeting rooms shall not be used for religious ser-
    vices.
    RESOLUTION NO. 2004/655 (Contra Costa County Bd. of Supervisors).
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    approved, the County has unlawfully excluded certain mem-
    bers of the community from engaging in activities that fall
    squarely within the policy’s scope by examining the way an
    applicant’s viewpoints are expressed. Political organizations
    like the local Democratic Party are admitted. Religious groups
    are not.
    The County draws an arbitrary line in the sand, arguing that
    it has the right to decide what constitutes a religious service
    while failing to set forth specific guidelines defining the term.
    It contends that the Establishment Clause of the First Amend-
    ment requires County officials to exclude those who wish to
    engage in worship behind the closed doors of its library meet-
    ing rooms. My colleagues in the majority accept the County’s
    skewed view of the First Amendment by upholding a policy
    which on its face and as applied produces the very entangle-
    ment the County ostensibly seeks to avoid, and in doing so the
    court creates a conflict with the Second Circuit and contra-
    dicts Supreme Court precedent. I respectfully dissent.
    I
    “[R]eligious worship and discussion . . . are forms of
    speech and association protected by the First Amendment.”
    Widmar v. Vincent, 
    454 U.S. 263
    , 269 (1981). “The Constitu-
    tion forbids a State to enforce certain exclusions from a forum
    generally open to the public, even if it was not required to
    create the forum in the first place.” Id. at 267-68. Both parties
    agree that religious activities, including worship, are speech
    protected by the First Amendment. However, the County
    adopts the views of Justice Stevens, dissenting in Good News
    Club v. Milford Central School, 
    533 U.S. 98
     (2001), when it
    argues that religious service or worship may be parsed from
    other religious speech—that religious worship is a category
    wholly separate from general religious speech. See id. at 130
    (Stevens, J., dissenting). According to the County, allowing
    religious services in its library meeting rooms would “start[ ]
    the courts down a slippery slope whereby all public buildings
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2785
    will be converted into houses of worship for the conduct of
    religious services.” Id. at 139 (Souter, J., dissenting).
    As support for its assertion, the County cites two Supreme
    Court cases, a Second Circuit case, and an Eastern District of
    Louisiana case, none of which address whether mere religious
    worship should or could be parsed from other types of reli-
    gious speech. See Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 112 n.4 (con-
    cluding that a religious club’s activities “[did] not constitute
    mere religious worship, divorced from any teaching of moral
    values,” and therefore the parsing issue was not reached);
    Lamb’s Chapel v. Center Moriches Union Free Sch. Dist.,
    
    508 U.S. 384
    , 388 n.2 (1993) (noting that the petitioner
    church did not challenge a school district’s denial to use a
    high school for Sunday services, so the validity of that denial
    was not before the court); Bronx Household of Faith v. Board
    of Educ. of the City of New York, 
    331 F.3d 342
    , 355 (2d Cir.
    2003) (declining to address whether religious worship is a dis-
    tinct type of activity separate from other religious speech);
    and Campbell v. St. Tammany Parish Sch. Bd., 
    2003 WL 21783317
    , at *9 (E.D. La. July 30, 2003) (declining to reach
    the issue of whether “mere religious worship” could be pre-
    cluded from a particular forum).
    Faith Center agrees that its meetings contain religious wor-
    ship, and my colleagues find comfort in the fact that Faith
    Center explicitly listed worship activities on flyers for the
    meeting. But words on a flyer make no difference in the dis-
    position of this case. The next religious group wishing to
    intermingle worship activities, admonished as to the conse-
    quences of such advertising, may not be so explicit about its
    meeting itinerary, or may simply call its worship activities
    religious “proselytizing,” an acceptable form of speech under
    the policy according to the court. Maj. Op. at 2776. Regard-
    less of what Faith Center chooses to print on its flyers, or
    what it chooses to call its activities, worship cannot logically
    be parsed from all other forms of religious expression in the
    way the County intends.
    2786                FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    When compared to similar cases, such as Bronx Household
    and Campbell, where private religious groups conducted reli-
    gious services in a government-owned forum, Faith Center’s
    service cannot properly be described as “mere religious wor-
    ship, divorced from any teaching of moral values.” See Bronx
    Household, 331 F.3d at 346-48, 354 (affirming a preliminary
    injunction allowing a religious group equal access to public
    school classrooms after hours where the group’s religious ser-
    vices could not be separated from a teaching of moral values);
    Campbell, 
    2003 WL 21783317
    , at *1-3, 9 (granting summary
    judgment to a religious group that wished to use a public
    school after hours, opened as a limited forum, for its quint-
    essentially religious activities). Nor is it correct to say that
    Faith Center agreed its worship activities fall under the
    ambiguous, undefined category acknowledged by the
    Supreme Court as mere religious worship.2
    2
    My colleagues point to one quote during the preliminary injunction
    hearing in which Faith Center seemingly agreed that its activities consti-
    tute “mere worship.”
    The [c]ourt: What is your bottom line? Is your bottom line then
    the [c]ourt cannot issue any injunction which has the effect of
    precluding, as you would call it or the courts call it, mere worship
    in the library rooms?
    [Counsel for Faith Center]: That’s right, your honor.
    This agreement does not bind Faith Center’s activities to the
    Supreme Court’s concept of “mere religious worship, divorced
    from any teaching of moral values” as noted in Good News Club,
    533 U.S. at 112 n.4. Not even the district court understood Faith
    Center’s agreement as comporting with Good News Club’s defi-
    nition of “mere religious worship,” as it correctly determined in
    its order granting the preliminary injunction that this case “pre-
    sents a factual situation similar to the factual situations presented
    in the Good News Club, Lamb’s Chapel, Bronx Household of
    Faith, and Campbell cases,” which each held that the activities at
    issue were not religious worship devoid of discussion on other-
    wise permissible secular subjects. Faith Center Church, 
    2005 WL 1220947
    , at *7.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                  2787
    A
    Although the Second Circuit in Bronx Household declined
    to answer the question whether religious worship may be
    parsed from other religious speech, the court was concerned
    as to how the judiciary or any government official could val-
    idly make the distinction. See 331 F.3d at 355 (“Would we be
    able to identify a form of religious worship that is divorced
    from the teaching of moral values?”). The court noted the
    dichotomy suggested by the Supreme Court in Good News
    Club between “mere” religious worship on the one hand and
    “worship that is not divorced from the teaching of moral val-
    ues on the other.” Id. “Further,” the Second Circuit asked,
    “how would the state, without imposing its own views on reli-
    gion, define which values are morally acceptable and which
    are not?” Id. This is the point of eschewing government
    decision-making based on the viewpoint at issue in the First
    Amendment Establishment Clause arena.
    Here, the district court relied heavily, and properly so, on
    Widmar and Bronx Household for its conclusion that religious
    worship may not be parsed from other religious speech. Faith
    Center Church, 
    2005 WL 1220947
    , at *5. The County
    attempts to distinguish Widmar by arguing that the Supreme
    Court’s comments about religious worship apply only to
    “open” forums, such as the forum in Widmar. However, the
    Widmar Court’s analysis of “religious worship” was not based
    on the characteristics of the forum at issue, but the difficulty
    the government and the courts would have in drawing the line
    between religious worship and other religious speech:
    There is no indication when “singing hymns, reading
    scripture, and teaching biblical principles” . . . cease
    to be “singing, teaching, and reading”—all appar-
    ently forms of “speech,” despite their religious sub-
    ject matter—and become unprotected “worship.”
    [E]ven if the distinction drew an arguably principled
    line, it is highly doubtful that it would lie within the
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    judicial competence to administer. Merely to draw
    the distinction would require [the government]—and
    ultimately the courts—to inquire into the signifi-
    cance of words and practices to different religious
    faiths, and in varying circumstances by the same
    faith. Such inquiries would tend inevitably to entan-
    gle the [government] with religion in a manner for-
    bidden by our cases.
    Widmar, 454 U.S. at 269 n.6(citations omitted).
    The majority opinion here cites several cases where the
    Supreme Court has drawn a distinction between general reli-
    gious speech and speech about religion. Maj. Op. at 2775-76.
    These cases involve speech before students at public schools
    and speech by government employees in the workplace. How-
    ever, not only do the cited cases involve evangelical speech
    to a captive audience, but they are also instances where even
    proselytizing may be excluded. No amount of general reli-
    gious speech is allowed in public schools or government
    workplaces during the business day if it is evangelical in
    design. Speech about religion is permissible in such limited
    fora where the purpose of the forum is very specific—school
    is for academic learning and the workplace is for work.
    The Antioch Library opened its meeting room for a much
    broader purpose. My colleagues concede that evangelical
    speech is permissible under the “Religious Use” exclusion if
    it conveys a viewpoint on an otherwise permissible topic, and
    acknowledge that the distinction the County must draw here
    is more subtle than in any of the cases the opinion cites. Maj.
    Op. at 2775-76. But that is as far as the opinion goes in this
    analysis. It does not attempt to answer the insoluble riddle of
    how the County could parse religious speech which conveys
    a viewpoint on an otherwise permissible topic with mere reli-
    gious worship that is impermissible speech according to the
    court. Instead, it claims that Faith Center has solved the riddle
    for us since Faith Center specifically calls its activities “wor-
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2789
    ship.” Under this reasoning, if Faith Center says what it is
    doing is worship, then the County need not make the distinc-
    tion.
    But this flawed analysis blithely ignores other similarly sit-
    uated religious groups that may not make such a nice admis-
    sion to the County in their applications to use the room. While
    the district court granted the preliminary injunction based on
    Faith Center’s “as applied” challenge to the policy, Faith Cen-
    ter also brought a facial challenge to the policy. Ignoring the
    preliminary injunction’s mandate that the County open its
    library meeting room to any “similarly situated individual or
    entity” may provide a neat literal shorthand allowing my col-
    leagues to bypass the need for parsing religious worship from
    other religious speech in this specific instance. However, the
    majority’s reasoning ignores the plain reality that some
    County official must make the call with no articulated stan-
    dard to guide a determination of what constitutes “religious
    services” under the policy.
    Announcing the strange rule that “[r]eligious worship ser-
    vices can be distinguished from other forms of religious
    speech by the adherents themselves,” Maj. Op. at 2778,
    creates a system whereby the applicant itself decides what
    constitutes worship. Under the policy, the County will still
    have to determine what is and what is not religious worship
    in instances where a group does not identify in such detail its
    activity, and the County is not off the hook even if a group
    does say it will engage in religious worship. Creative word-
    play cannot avoid the reality that worship is intangible, and
    even what Faith Center itself determines is religious worship
    may not be worship to another. See Bronx Household, 331
    F.3d at 354-55 (finding “no principled basis upon which to
    distinguish [such] activities”).
    The County chooses to exclude Faith Center because it
    believes that allowing religious worship within its library
    meeting room violates the Establishment Clause. It contends
    2790               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    that patrons would then perceive the County to endorse a par-
    ticular religion. Given the County’s position, our court’s
    newly created rule is nonsensical because the religious groups
    that the County claims will cause it to violate the Establish-
    ment Clause are the ones who would decide what speech con-
    stitutes a violation of the policy. I doubt the County had such
    a rule in mind when it created its “Religious Use” exclusion.
    The truth is that neither the County nor Faith Center can val-
    idly parse religious worship from religious speech under the
    County’s broad and undefined policy.
    B
    Any attempt by the County to parse religious worship from
    other religious speech would trigger the inherent Establish-
    ment Clause entanglement problems it seeks to avoid. Justice
    Souter, in his dissenting opinion to Good News Club,
    described the religious activities in Good News Club as
    including elements of worship, such as prayer, a “challenge”
    that invited “saved” children to ask God for strength, and an
    “invitation” that asked “unsaved” children to receive Jesus
    Christ as their Savior from sin. 533 U.S. at 137-38 (Souter, J.,
    dissenting). The majority in Good News Club agreed with Jus-
    tice Souter’s recitation of the elements of the religious activi-
    ties at issue, but decided that these activities do not constitute
    mere religious worship. Id. at 112 n.4.3
    Faith Center’s religious service consists of prayer, praise,
    and a sermon, consistent with the type of worship in Good
    News Club. Faith Center’s worship activities include discus-
    3
    Although Widmar and Good News Club address this issue in dicta, it
    is essential to note that there is no such extensive Supreme Court dicta for
    the proposition that religious worship may be parsed from other religious
    speech in the context of a private group conducting meetings in places oth-
    erwise open to the public under a broad policy such as this one. The
    caselaw suggests the Court is clearly moving away from that notion and
    towards the principle that religious worship in this context cannot be dis-
    tinguished from other religious speech.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2791
    sion of moral character and other secular subjects—well
    within the policy’s scope, and not mere religious worship,
    which has yet to be adequately defined by any court. In order
    to divorce prohibited religious services from other permissible
    religious activities to be conducted in the meeting room, the
    County would need to define what constitutes mere religious
    worship, as well as how many secular topics are required to
    be discussed or contemplated before mere religious worship
    becomes something more. I wish the County the best of luck
    in that drafting endeavor.
    Justice Scalia, in a concurring opinion to Good News Club,
    examined our ability to distinguish religious worship from
    other religious speech. He concluded that the distinction
    between worship and other religious speech has “no intelligi-
    ble content” and no “relevance” to the constitutional issue.
    Good News Club, 533 U.S. at 126 (Scalia, J., concurring)
    (quoting Widmar, 454 U.S. at 269 n.6). Justice Scalia noted
    that the difficulty of distinction is proven by the inability of
    the Justices to agree on what category of religious speech was
    at issue in Good News Club. Id. at 126-27 (Scalia, J., concur-
    ring). He then added that “applying the distinction would
    require state monitoring of private, religious speech with a
    degree of pervasiveness that we have previously found unac-
    ceptable.” Id. at 127 (Scalia, J., concurring).
    There are as many ways to conduct “religious services” as
    there are religions in the world, not accounting for different
    sects of the same religion. The Supreme Court has said that
    the government “would risk greater entanglement by attempt-
    ing to enforce its exclusion of religious worship.” Widmar,
    454 U.S. at 272 n.11 (quotation marks and citation omitted).
    The government “would need to determine which words and
    activities fall within religious worship” and “[t]his . . . could
    prove an impossible task in an age where many and various
    beliefs meet the constitutional definition of religion.” Id.
    (quotation marks and citation omitted). The County cannot
    validly parse religious worship from other religious speech in
    2792               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    trying to apply this policy without engaging in the very action
    it is trying to prevent—entangling itself in religion in a man-
    ner that violates the First Amendment.
    C
    Even if we were to ignore the inherent entanglement the
    exclusion would cause, the exclusionary portion of the policy
    is nonetheless facially invalid. While the County excludes
    religious services in its library meeting rooms, it does not
    define “religious services.” How can a County librarian val-
    idly parse religious worship from allowable religious speech
    when the librarian does not have the proper guidelines by
    which he or she may recognize the offending conduct?4
    The opinion never addresses what the County would do if
    another group were to conduct worship services without
    delineating its activities on a flyer. Are we then to accept that
    a librarian will know worship when he or she sees it? Are we
    now to declare that the County’s librarians are experts in the-
    ology and world religion? Perhaps they might consult the
    books on the shelves of their libraries. Or are we only exclud-
    ing traditional Christian worship because that is what is most
    familiar to the officials in Contra Costa County? Under the
    policy before us, the power to decide the definition of a reli-
    gious service lies squarely in the lap of government officials,
    and that is the crux of the problem.
    Separating religious worship from other religious speech
    inevitably leads to state entanglement in religion that would
    not otherwise exist should private religious groups be allowed
    4
    The Board of Supervisors did not even try to define the term “religious
    services” in the policy it enacted by resolution. Instead, it provided, “[t]he
    County Librarian shall promulgate rules for the implementation of this
    policy.” RESOLUTION NO. 2004/655. No such rules have ever been brought
    to our attention in this litigation and we must assume that their absence
    from the record is not an oversight by County counsel.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                      2793
    the freedom to conduct activities consistent with the goal of
    the policy, given reasonable time, place, and manner restric-
    tions also imposed on all other groups wishing to use the pub-
    lic library meeting room. See Widmar, 454 U.S. at 278 (noting
    that the government’s opening of its property to various forms
    of speech may “establish reasonable time, place, and manner
    regulations”). Religious worship is the expression of beliefs,
    convictions, viewpoints, and morality, and its means of prac-
    tice are as diverse as the people who make up this nation. No
    government official has the ability to decide the constitution
    of religious worship. Any attempt would inevitably entangle
    the official in the Bill of Rights.
    II
    The majority opinion not only ignores the obvious state
    entanglement problems the exclusion of worship presents, but
    it also holds that religious services cannot include speech
    which expresses viewpoints on otherwise secular subject mat-
    ter, a conclusion contrary to the weight of Supreme Court
    authority. My court agrees with the County that the exclusion
    is content based and viewpoint neutral. Because my col-
    leagues conclude the County has created a limited public forum,5
    the opinion holds that the content-based exclusion is permissi-
    ble.
    Based on its argument that religious worship may be parsed
    from other religious speech, the County contends that the pol-
    icy excludes a whole category of speech with a distinct con-
    5
    I do not agree that the County opened a limited public forum, thus
    allowing content-based discrimination. This case is similar to Concerned
    Women for America, Inc. v. LaFayette County, 
    883 F.2d 32
     (5th Cir.
    1989), in which the Fifth Circuit held that a library auditorium was a des-
    ignated public forum when it was opened for organizations of a “civic,
    cultural or educational character,” yet excluded religious or political
    groups. Id. at 33-34. However, because I believe that the “Religious Use”
    exclusion constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which is forbidden in all
    forums, I decline to address this issue further.
    2794           FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    tent, apparently believing that all religious worship speaks of
    the same subject matter and contains no particular viewpoint
    on otherwise permissible secular topics. I disagree. The
    speech at issue here may include discussion of religious view-
    points on a variety of otherwise includible subjects, and to
    exclude this speech would be classic viewpoint discrimina-
    tion. “Viewpoint discrimination is a form of content discrimi-
    nation in which ‘the government targets not subject matter,
    but particular views taken by speakers on a subject.’ ” Chil-
    dren of the Rosary v. City of Phoenix, 
    154 F.3d 972
    , 980 (9th
    Cir. 1998) (quoting Rosenberger v. Rector and Visitors of
    Univ. of Va., 
    515 U.S. 819
    , 829 (1995)).
    Although a speaker may be excluded from a nonpub-
    lic forum if he wishes to address a topic not encom-
    passed within the purpose of the forum . . . or if he
    is not a member of the class of speakers for whose
    especial benefit the forum was created . . . , the gov-
    ernment violates the First Amendment when it
    denies access to a speaker solely to suppress the
    point of view he espouses on an otherwise includible
    subject.
    Lamb’s Chapel, 508 U.S. at 394 (quoting Cornelius v. NCAA
    Legal Def. & Educ. Fund, Inc., 
    473 U.S. 788
    , 806 (1985))
    (alterations omitted).
    The Supreme Court in Good News Club saw “no reason to
    treat the . . . use of religion as something other than a view-
    point merely because of any evangelical message it conveys.”
    533 U.S. at 112 n.4. “[T]he First Amendment forbids the gov-
    ernment to regulate speech in ways that favor some view-
    points or ideas at the expense of others.” Id. (quoting City
    Council of Los Angeles v. Taxpayers for Vincent, 
    466 U.S. 789
    , 804 (1984)). Common sense dictates that religious wor-
    ship can include exploration of secular topics from a religious
    point of view, as Faith Center’s meeting demonstrates.
    Enforcing the exclusion is therefore viewpoint discrimination
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2795
    and Faith Center has made a clear showing of probable suc-
    cess on the merits of its claim.
    A
    The County argues that the exclusion “is directed to a dis-
    tinct type of subject matter and separate category of speech,
    not a particular religious ‘viewpoint’ on an otherwise permis-
    sible subject.” It represents its prohibition as “permissible
    content-based restrictions” which, for example, “exclude
    speech based on topic, such as politics or religion, regardless
    of the particular stand the speaker takes on the topic.” Di-
    Loreto v. Downey Unified Sch. Dist. Bd. of Educ., 
    196 F.3d 958
    , 969 (9th Cir. 1999). The County’s argument is based on
    the erroneous belief that religious service may be parsed from
    other religious speech, and that “religious services” is a cate-
    gory of speech unto itself, and therefore qualifies as a whole
    topic of speech that is excludable under content-based dis-
    crimination.
    First, as previously stated, the notion that religious worship
    may be parsed from other religious speech ignores the weight
    of Supreme Court authority against it. See supra § I. Second,
    even if the County were somehow able to parse religious wor-
    ship from other religious speech, and all religious worship is
    treated alike under the exclusion, the County does not explain
    why religious services cannot include religious viewpoints on
    permissible subjects. See Lamb’s Chapel, 508 U.S. at 393
    (rejecting the Second Circuit’s determination that a policy is
    viewpoint neutral because all religions and all uses for reli-
    gious purposes are treated alike).
    Faith Center’s religious service consists of singing songs,
    engaging in prayer, and sermons about community and moral
    character from a Biblical viewpoint. Community and moral
    character are two secular subjects that would be includable
    under the policy’s broad scope. Yet the County and my col-
    leagues assert that Faith Center’s worship cannot express a
    2796            FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    viewpoint because of the way ideas are communicated—
    through prayer and sermon.
    As an example of what it deems to be the distinction
    between subject matter and viewpoint discrimination, the
    County argues that “true viewpoint discrimination . . . would
    occur if the County permitted Christian or Buddhist religious
    services but disallowed Muslim or Jewish services.” How-
    ever, the County must therefore assume all religious services,
    regardless of denomination, do not communicate ideas on top-
    ics that are permissible under the policy, such as moral char-
    acter. The “exclusion of several views . . . is just as offensive
    to the First Amendment as exclusion of only one.” Rosenber-
    ger, 515 U.S. at 831.
    B
    The religious service portion of Faith Center’s meeting is
    not unlike the services at issue in Bronx Household and
    Campbell, which were not mere religious worship. The East-
    ern District of Louisiana in Campbell noted that “[i]t is diffi-
    cult to imagine any religious service, no matter how
    traditional or nontraditional that does not include sermons,
    homilies or lessons directed at moral and ethical conduct or
    how one should live one’s life.” 
    2003 WL 21783317
    , at *9.
    The Second Circuit in Bronx Household concluded that even
    the “quintessentially religious” services at issue were not
    “only religious worship, separate and apart from any teaching
    of moral values.” 331 F.3d at 354 (citing Good News Club,
    533 U.S. at 112 n.4). Both cases were decided within the
    framework of Good News Club, where the Supreme Court
    disagreed with the suggestion that something quintessentially
    religious or decidedly religious in nature “cannot also be char-
    acterized properly as the teaching of morals and character
    development from a particular viewpoint.” 533 U.S. at 111.
    Although my colleagues take pains to distinguish it, Bronx
    Household parallels this case in many ways and is instructive
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER                 2797
    on the interpretation of the precedent set by Good News Club.
    The Bronx Household of Faith applied to rent space in a pub-
    lic school in New York for Sunday morning meetings that
    included, at least in part, activities that can fairly be described
    as religious worship. Bronx Household, 331 F.3d at 345. The
    New York City Board of Education issued a policy similar to
    the one in this case, allowing community groups to meet in
    school classrooms after hours for “social, civic and recre-
    ational meetings and entertainment, and other uses pertaining
    to the welfare of the community.” Id. at 348. The church
    group characterized its meeting as a “service consist[ing] of
    the singing of Christian hymns and songs, prayer, fellowship
    with other church members and Biblical preaching and teach-
    ing, communion, sharing of testimonies and social fellowship
    among the church members.” Id. at 347. Bronx Household
    filed a motion for a preliminary injunction to enjoin the Board
    of Education from enforcing its policy prohibiting “religious
    services or religious instruction” at the school after hours. Id.
    at 346. The district court granted the preliminary injunction
    and the Second Circuit affirmed. Id. at 348, 357.
    The Second Circuit concluded that, after Good News Club,
    the district court did not abuse its discretion in determining
    that Bronx Household was substantially likely to establish that
    the Board of Education violated its First Amendment free
    speech rights. Id. at 354. While the majority in Good News
    Club characterized the Good News Club’s activities as “the
    teaching of morals and character development from a particu-
    lar viewpoint,” 533 U.S. at 111, the Bronx Household court
    determined that this characterization “cannot be divorced
    from Justice Souter’s detailed description [in his dissent] of
    the Club’s activities [as worship] that the majority adopted as
    accurate.” Bronx Household, 331 F.3d at 354 (citing Good
    News Club, 553 U.S. at 112 n.4). The Second Circuit could
    not find any meaningful distinction between the activities
    Bronx Household was engaging in, and the activities at issue
    in Good News Club, where the Supreme Court held that
    excluding a club’s religious activities from school classrooms
    2798              FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    otherwise open to community groups was discrimination
    based on viewpoint. Id.
    Faith Center’s religious activities and those in Bronx
    Household and Good News Club, are likewise too similar to
    make any meaningful distinction that would immunize the
    County from First Amendment violations. Whether “mere
    religious worship” can be defined or not, the County’s asser-
    tion that the prohibition of “religious services” is nothing
    more than content-based discrimination runs counter to the
    precedent set in Good News Club.
    The majority opinion attempts to distinguish Bronx House-
    hold in two ways: (1) Faith Center’s activities do not contain
    “elements of worship” that further secular activities as in
    Bronx Household, but consist entirely of praise and religious
    worship; and (2) the forum in Bronx Household was different
    because the meeting was held in a school classroom after
    hours rather than a library meeting room during the day. Maj.
    Op. at 2772-73. But this reasoning is based on a faulty prem-
    ise and an irrelevant issue.
    1
    Faith Center has never claimed that its services are mere
    religious worship, devoid of speech on permissible secular top-
    ics.6 Faith Center specifically argues that its activities are sim-
    ilar to those in Bronx Household, in which the Sunday
    morning meeting services contained the “singing of Christian
    hymns and songs, prayer . . . Biblical preaching and teaching,
    communion, sharing of testimonies and social fellowship
    among the church members.” 351 F.3d at 347. The only dif-
    ferences between the church’s activities in Bronx Household
    and those of Faith Center is that the Bronx Household church
    did not call its activities “worship” and failed to conveniently
    6
    See supra § I n.2.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER               2799
    separate on a flyer the “worship” portion of its activities with
    a fellowship meal discussing secular topics. Id. at 347, 354.
    Apparently, this is enough for my colleagues to declare that
    these cases are so dissimilar that to reverse the district court
    here would not be creating a circuit split. They are wrong.
    Framing the argument in this manner repeats the same analyt-
    ical mistake committed by the University of Missouri in Wid-
    mar:
    The question is not whether the creation of a reli-
    gious forum would violate the Establishment Clause.
    The University has opened its facilities for use by
    student groups, and the question is whether it can
    now exclude groups because of the content of their
    speech.
    454 U.S. at 273.
    The common issue in all of these cases is what types of
    activities encompass a religious worship service. Faith Center
    explains that during its service Pastor Hattie Mae Hopkins
    may deliver a sermon, and the group may pray and sing reli-
    gious songs. Not only are these activities the same as those at
    issue in Bronx Household, thus lending credence to the notion
    that the two cases are in fact indistinguishable, but parsing out
    the actual nature of the worship clarifies the answer to a ques-
    tion my colleagues never bother to ask: why is religious wor-
    ship not speech containing viewpoints on otherwise
    permissible secular topics?
    Singing a religious song may very well be akin to singing
    about morality according to religious tenets. Praying is usu-
    ally speech containing praise to a higher being, but may also
    contain personal characterizations of one’s own life, wishes,
    hopes, or concerns. Pastor Hopkins’s sermon is the clearest
    example of religious speech which expresses a viewpoint on
    otherwise permissible secular topics. One can imagine the
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    variety of subject matter that could be included in a sermon—
    money, family, love, or avoiding drugs and alcohol, to name
    a few. The list is endless.
    Instead, the opinion categorizes all of Faith Center’s wor-
    ship activities into one neat box and then calls it impermissi-
    ble speech. Yet it never examines the nature of that speech.
    2
    The opinion also distinguishes Bronx Household by where
    the meeting rooms are located. Comparing this case to Bronx
    Household brings forth the inevitable question as to whether
    there is a difference between non-disruptive meetings held in
    a public meeting room during library hours and meetings held
    in an empty classroom or auditorium on public school
    grounds after school or on weekends. Despite any facial dis-
    tinctions, Faith Center’s religious services do not lose their
    character as communication on permitted subject matter from
    a religious viewpoint simply because they are held in a library
    meeting room open to public use rather than at a school after
    hours. It is important to emphasize that the County has never
    argued that noise from Faith Center’s religious activities dis-
    turbed the peace of other library patrons elsewhere in the
    building. Unlike the cases in which groups were allowed on
    a public school campus to hold meetings, the policy did not
    restrict the use of the library meeting room to after hours
    when the stacks and reading area were closed.
    The County argues that because the library is open to the
    public during the hours in which Faith Center wishes to hold
    its meetings, library patrons would come to believe that the
    County is endorsing Faith Center’s religious service. Looking
    at the context of Faith Center’s meetings, a reasonable
    observer, “aware of the history and context of the community
    and forum,” would no more believe that the County was
    endorsing Faith Center’s meeting than it would believe the
    County was endorsing the Boy Scouts, the Sierra Club, or
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2801
    Narcotics Anonymous. See Good News Club, 553 U.S. at 119
    (quoting Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd. v. Pinette,
    
    515 U.S. 753
    , 779-90 (1995) (O’Conner, J., concurring)). Our
    court says that “[t]he County reasonably could conclude that
    the controversy and distraction of religious worship within the
    Antioch Library meeting room may alienate patrons and
    undermine the library’s purpose of making itself available to
    the whole community.” Maj. Op. at 2765. Yet the library
    opened itself up to another group which could easily be as
    controversial and distracting to some patrons—the East Con-
    tra Costa Democratic Club. Clearly, the opinion sees no prob-
    lem with other types of controversial speech.
    All meetings held at the Antioch Library are closed-door
    meetings. There is no evidence that Faith Center’s religious
    service was generally disruptive or that library patrons were
    bothered. The reasonable observer would be the library patron
    who knows the purpose for the meeting room, its policy, and
    its scope. This patron would be aware of the number of differ-
    ent community groups that have used the meeting room.
    Arguing that this informed observer would perceive a govern-
    ment endorsement of Faith Center’s activities just because of
    the possibility that he or she may hear some of what is going
    on in the room is akin to saying that this individual would per-
    ceive the County to be endorsing specific political speech
    when the East Contra Costa Democratic Club used the same
    room. There is simply “no realistic danger that the community
    would think that the [Library] was endorsing religion or any
    particular creed, and any benefit to religion or to the Church
    would have been no more than incidental.” Lamb’s Chapel,
    508 U.S. at 395; see Widmar, 454 U.S. at 271 (holding that
    allowing equal access to religious groups would not be
    incompatible with a government’s compelling interest in
    avoiding an Establishment Clause problem).
    The County further argues that cases like Bronx Household
    found no Establishment Clause violation because the meet-
    2802               FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER
    ings were held after school hours.7 This interpretation of the
    case is not supported by a reading of Bronx Household, as the
    hours were but one factor in the Second Circuit’s ultimate rul-
    ing on whether the school’s policy presented Establishment
    Clause problems. 331 F.3d at 356. In addition to the hours,
    the proposed meetings: (1) were “not endorsed by the School
    District”; (2) were “not attended by any school employee”;
    and (3) were “open to all members of the public.” Id.
    While community meetings are held during library hours,
    Faith Center’s meeting would also be open to the public. In
    addition, (1) the County would not be endorsing the meeting
    (in fact, the flyer for Faith Center’s meeting specified that it
    would be the meeting’s sponsor); (2) all library patrons would
    be on the premises voluntarily (unlike children attending pub-
    lic school during school hours); (3) the meeting would be held
    in a closed room; and (4) patrons would be aware of the pol-
    icy and the types of groups that have used the meeting room.
    Additionally, the County would be able to enforce reasonable
    time, place, and manner restrictions, applicable to all groups
    using the meeting room, in order to maintain the academic
    atmosphere of the remaining library space. See Widmar, 454
    U.S. at 276. Faith Center only intended to use the Antioch
    Library meeting room one Saturday every other month for
    four hours. Certainly the County could place a reasonable
    restriction on the number of times any group may use the
    meeting room within a one or two month span, thus alleviat-
    ing the County’s fear that the library meeting room will
    become a permanent house of worship.
    The Supreme Court’s decisions in Good News Club, Wid-
    mar, and Lamb’s Chapel, and the Second Circuit’s opinion in
    Bronx Household cannot meaningfully be distinguished from
    7
    I note that the court’s opinion does not address the County’s Establish-
    ment Clause argument, but distinguishing Bronx Household from this case
    on the basis of the forum in each inevitably forces us to confront this
    issue.
    FAITH CENTER CHURCH v. GLOVER              2803
    the facts presented in this case. Faith Center has demonstrated
    that the County’s enforcement of the policy is substantially
    likely to result in restricting speech based on viewpoint.
    III
    I do not question Contra Costa County’s sincere apprecia-
    tion of one of our nation’s fundamental constitutional tenets—
    the separation of Church and State—or my colleagues’ adher-
    ence to this important principle. But the County has gone too
    far, and the court ignores the inherent constitutional flaws in
    the County’s argument. In the County’s attempt to walk the
    line between opening its doors to encourage its patrons to
    speak freely and closing its ears to religious doctrine, it has
    prevented its citizens from voluntarily hearing the “educa-
    tional, cultural and community” views of an entire segment of
    the population in an accessible public space it opened for that
    very purpose.
    Rather than adopting a policy of neutrality and placing rea-
    sonable time, place, and manner restrictions on every group
    that uses the library meeting rooms, the County has gone to
    great lengths to exclude a non-disruptive community group
    based on the views it wishes to express. The court fails in its
    analysis to adequately acknowledge the Establishment Clause
    entanglement problems this exclusion creates. Just as the gov-
    ernment’s endorsement of one particular religion would run
    counter to the principles upon which this nation was founded,
    a County librarian’s attempt to define what constitutes reli-
    gious worship and what does not also violates these princi-
    ples. Squelching a viewpoint based solely on the non-
    obtrusive manner in which it is spoken impermissibly silences
    speech and exhibits a prejudice against religion that the First
    Amendment does not tolerate.
    I see no abuse of discretion in the district court’s grant of
    a preliminary injunction requiring the County to allow Faith
    Center the same access to the Antioch Library’s meeting
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    room that most other groups are allowed under the County’s
    broad, inclusive policy. I respectfully dissent.