United States v. Tavares Chandler , 743 F.3d 648 ( 2014 )


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  •                     FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                      No. 12-10331
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    D.C. No.
    v.                        2:10-cr-00482-
    GMN-PAL-1
    TAVARES CHANDLER,
    Defendant-Appellant.                 OPINION
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the District of Nevada
    Gloria M. Navarro, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted
    June 13, 2013—San Francisco, California
    Filed February 20, 2014
    Before: A. Wallace Tashima and Jay S. Bybee, Circuit
    Judges, and Kimba M. Wood, Senior District Judge.*
    Per Curiam Opinion;
    Concurrence by Judge Bybee
    *
    The Honorable Kimba M. Wood, Senior District Judge for the U.S.
    District Court for the Southern District of New York, sitting by
    designation.
    2                 UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER
    SUMMARY**
    Criminal Law
    The panel affirmed the district court’s conclusion that the
    defendant had previously been convicted of three “violent
    felonies,” which subjected him to an increased penalty under
    the Armed Career Criminal Act, 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(1).
    The panel held that a Nevada conviction for robbery is a
    violent felony because it creates a serious risk of harm that is
    comparable to the risk posed by burglary; and that because
    after United States v. Mendez, 
    992 F.2d 1488
     (9th Cir. 1992),
    “the § 924(e) analysis of a prior conspiracy conviction is
    governed by the substantive offense that was the object of the
    conspiracy,” conspiracy to commit robbery, pursuant to 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 199.480
    , 200.380, is also a “violent felony”
    under the ACCA’s residual clause.
    The panel also held that second degree kidnapping in
    Nevada, 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 200.310
    , 200.330, categorically
    involves a serious risk that physical force may be used in the
    course of committing the offense; that this risk is roughly
    similar to the risk involved in burglary; and that second
    degree kidnapping under Nevada law is, accordingly,
    categorically a “violent felony” under the residual clause of
    the ACCA.
    Concurring, Judge Bybee, joined by Judges Tashima and
    District Judge Wood, agreed that Mendez requires the per
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    curiam holding that conspiracy to commit robbery is a
    “violent felony” under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii), but wrote
    separately to question the reasoning and continued validity of
    Mendez.
    COUNSEL
    James A. Oronoz (argued) and Lucas J. Gaffney, Oronoz &
    Ericsson, L.L.C., Las Vegas, Nevada, for Defendant-
    Appellant.
    Phillip N. Smith, Jr. (argued), Assistant United States
    Attorney, Daniel G. Bogden, United States Attorney, Robert
    L. Ellman, Appellate Chief, United States Attorney’s Office
    for the District of Nevada, Las Vegas, Nevada, for Plaintiff-
    Appellee.
    OPINION
    PER CURIAM:
    Tavares Chandler pleaded guilty to being a felon in
    possession of a firearm in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 922
    (g)(1).
    At sentencing, the district court concluded that Chandler had
    been convicted of three “violent felonies,” as defined by the
    Armed Career Criminal Act (ACCA), and sentenced
    Chandler to a term of 235 months’ imprisonment. Chandler
    does not contest his extensive criminal history, but he
    contends that the district court erred in concluding that he had
    been convicted of three violent felonies. Because we
    conclude that all three prior convictions are violent felonies
    under the ACCA, we affirm.
    4               UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER
    I.   FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    Chandler was indicted in 2010 for being a felon in
    possession of a firearm, a violation of 
    18 U.S.C. § 922
    (g)(1).
    Chandler pleaded guilty to the indictment without the benefit
    of a plea agreement. Chandler had previously been convicted
    in Nevada state court of the offenses of (1) second degree
    kidnapping, 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 200.310
    , 200.330;
    (2) coercion, 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 207.190
    ; and (3) conspiracy to
    commit robbery, 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 199.480
    , 200.380. The
    government sought an increased penalty under the ACCA,
    arguing that Chandler’s Nevada state convictions qualified as
    violent felonies. See 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(1). Chandler
    objected, arguing that neither his conspiracy conviction nor
    his kidnapping conviction was a violent felony as defined by
    the ACCA. He did not dispute that his conviction for
    coercion qualified as a violent felony. Over Chandler’s
    objection, the district court determined that Chandler’s three
    Nevada state convictions were all violent felonies under the
    ACCA and sentenced Chandler to 235-months’
    imprisonment. Chandler timely appealed.
    “We review de novo whether a prior conviction is a
    predicate felony under the ACCA.” United States v. Grisel,
    
    488 F.3d 844
    , 846 (9th Cir. 2007) (en banc).
    II.   DISCUSSION
    Under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(1), any “person who violates
    section 922(g) of this title and has three previous convictions
    . . . for a violent felony or a serious drug offense, or both, . . .
    shall be . . . imprisoned not less than fifteen years.” For
    purposes of this subsection of the ACCA, a violent felony is
    “any crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding
    UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER                               5
    one year . . . [that] is burglary, arson, or extortion, involves
    use of explosives, or otherwise involves conduct that presents
    a serious potential risk of physical injury to another.”
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(B)(ii).
    Notably, a violent felony as defined in the ACCA is
    nearly identical to a “crime of violence” as defined in the
    Sentencing Guidelines’ Career Offender enhancement.1
    Compare 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(B)(ii) with U.S. Sentencing
    Guidelines Manual § 4B1.2(a) (providing that a crime of
    violence is (1) “any offense . . . punishable by imprisonment
    for a term exceeding one year, that . . . is burglary of a
    dwelling, arson, or extortion, involves use of explosives, or
    otherwise involves conduct that presents a serious potential
    risk of physical injury to another”). Because there is no
    meaningful distinction between the definitions, we have used
    our analysis of the definition of crime of violence in the
    Sentencing Guidelines to guide our interpretation of violent
    felony in the ACCA. See United States v. Spencer, 
    724 F.3d 1133
    , 1138 (9th Cir. 2013); United States v. Crews, 
    621 F.3d 849
    , 852 n.4 (9th Cir. 2010); United States v. Melton,
    
    344 F.3d 1021
    , 1027 (9th Cir. 2003).
    In United States v. Park, 
    649 F.3d 1175
     (9th Cir. 2011),
    we established a framework for analyzing whether a
    conviction under state law is a conviction for a crime of
    violence. “First, the ‘conduct encompassed by the elements
    1
    Similarly, we have observed that the definition of “crime of violence”
    in 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c) “is very similar to that of ‘violent felony’ in section
    924(e)(2)(B).” United States v. Sherbondy, 
    865 F.2d 996
    , 1008 n.15 (9th
    Cir. 1988). Although the definitions are not always interchangeable,
    similar statutory language suggests that the definitions may be similarly
    interpreted. United States v. Coronado, 
    603 F.3d 706
    , 709 (9th Cir. 2010).
    6               UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER
    of the offense, in the ordinary case,’ must ‘present[ ] a serious
    potential risk of physical injury to another.’” 
    Id.
     at 1177–78
    (alteration in original) (quoting James v. United States,
    
    550 U.S. 192
    , 208 (2007)). “Second, the state offense must
    be ‘roughly similar, in kind as well as in degree of risk posed’
    to those offenses enumerated at the beginning of the residual
    clause—burglary of a dwelling, arson, extortion, and crimes
    involving explosives.” Id. at 1178 (quoting Begay v. United
    States, 
    553 U.S. 137
    , 143 (2008)). As we recently observed:
    The inquiry under Park’s first prong is
    straightforward. But the second requirement—
    whether the state offense is “‘roughly similar, in
    kind as well as in degree of risk posed’ to those
    offenses enumerated at the beginning of the
    residual clause”—is more complicated, and must
    be addressed in light of the Supreme Court’s
    quartet of ACCA cases.
    Spencer, 724 F.3d at 1138 (internal citation omitted) (quoting
    Park, 
    649 F.3d at 1178
    ).
    In James, the Supreme Court held that the second
    requirement should focus on whether the risk posed by the
    state offense “is comparable to that posed by its closest
    analog among the enumerated offenses.” James, 
    550 U.S. at 203
    . In Begay, however, the Court concluded that a state
    conviction for driving under the influence was not
    categorically a violent felony under the ACCA because it did
    not “involve purposeful, violent, and aggressive conduct.”
    Begay, 
    553 U.S. at
    144–45 (internal quotation marks
    omitted); see also Chambers v. United States, 
    555 U.S. 122
    ,
    128 (2009) (applying Begay’s “purposeful, violent, and
    aggressive conduct” formula). In its most recent ACCA
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    opinion, the Court once again focused on the level of risk
    posed by the state offense at issue compared with the level of
    risk posed by the enumerated offenses. See Sykes v. United
    States, 
    131 S. Ct. 2267
    , 2275 (2011) (“In general, levels of
    risk divide crimes that qualify from those that do not.”).
    We concluded in Spencer that Sykes meant that Begay’s
    “‘purposeful, violent, and aggressive formulation’ is only
    dispositive in cases involving a strict liability, negligence, or
    recklessness offense”—such as driving under the
    influence—and does not apply to intentional crimes.
    Spencer, 724 F.3d at 1139; see also Sykes, 
    131 S. Ct. at 2276
    (“Begay involved a crime akin to strict liability, negligence,
    and recklessness crimes; and the purposeful, violent, and
    aggressive formulation was used in that case to explain the
    result. The felony at issue here is not a strict liability,
    negligence, or recklessness crime.”). Many of our sister
    circuits have interpreted Sykes similarly.            See, e.g.,
    Harrington v. United States, 
    689 F.3d 124
    , 135 (2d Cir. 2012)
    (“In Sykes, the Court clarified that in cases involving
    intentional criminal conduct, the focus of judicial inquiry
    should remain on the risk assessment specified in the
    ACCA’s text, i.e., whether the proscribed conduct presents ‘a
    serious potential risk of physical injury to another’
    comparable to that posed by the enumerated offenses.”
    (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii))); United States v.
    Chitwood, 
    676 F.3d 971
    , 979 (11th Cir. 2012) (“Sykes makes
    clear that Begay’s ‘purposeful, violent, and aggressive’
    analysis does not apply to offenses that are not strict liability,
    negligence, or recklessness crimes.”); United States v. Bartel,
    
    698 F.3d 658
    , 662 (8th Cir. 2012); United States v. Meeks,
    
    664 F.3d 1067
    , 1070 (6th Cir. 2012); United States v. Smith,
    
    652 F.3d 1244
    , 1248 (10th Cir. 2011); United States v.
    Rodriguez, 
    659 F.3d 117
    , 119 (1st Cir. 2011).
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    Here, neither conspiracy to commit robbery nor second
    degree kidnapping is a strict liability crime or offense that
    punishes reckless or negligent behavior. See Doyle v. State,
    
    921 P.2d 901
    , 911 (Nev. 1996) (overruled on other grounds
    by Kaczmarek v. State, 
    91 P.3d 16
     (Nev. 2004)) (“A person
    who knowingly does any act to further the object of a
    conspiracy, or otherwise participates therein, is criminally
    liable as a conspirator; however, ‘[m]ere knowledge or
    approval of, or acquiescence in, the object and purpose of a
    conspiracy without an agreement to cooperate in achieving
    such object or purpose does not make one a party to
    conspiracy.’” (alteration in original) (emphasis added)
    (quoting State v. Arredondo, 
    746 P.2d 484
    , 487 (Ariz.
    1987))); 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.310
    (2) (“A person who
    willfully and without authority of law seizes, inveigles, takes,
    carries away, or kidnaps another person with the intent to
    keep the person secretly imprisoned . . . is guilty of
    kidnapping in the second degree.” (emphasis added)). As a
    result, we apply the “closest analog test” set forth in James.
    See Spencer, 724 F.3d at 1140.
    With this framework in mind, we turn to Chandler’s prior
    convictions.
    A. Conspiracy to Commit Robbery
    We have not previously considered whether conspiracy to
    commit robbery is a violent felony.2 We have, however,
    2
    We recently held that a Nevada conviction for conspiracy to commit
    burglary is not an aggravated felony under the immigration and
    Nationality Act (INA), 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(U). United States v.
    Garcia-Santana, ___ F.3d ___, No. 12-10471 (9th Cir. Feb. 20, 2014).
    Garcia-Santana does not govern this case because the INA’s aggravated
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    determined that conspiracy to interfere with interstate
    commerce by robbery is a crime of violence for purposes of
    the firearm sentencing enhancement in 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(1).3 See United States v. Mendez, 
    992 F.2d 1488
    ,
    1489 (9th Cir. 1993). In Mendez, we explained that a
    conspiracy “‘increases the chances that the planned crime will
    be committed”’ because a conspiracy “‘provides a focal point
    for collective criminal action.’” 
    Id. at 1491
     (quoting United
    States v. Chimurenga, 
    760 F.2d 400
    , 404 (2d Cir. 1985)).
    Due to this heightened risk of harm, a “conspiracy to commit
    a crime of violence is a ‘crime of violence’ under the
    substantial risk definition of § 924(c)(3)(B) or its
    equivalent.”4 Id. at 1492. In other words, “conspiracy to rob
    felony definition substantially differs from the ACCA’s definition of a
    “violent felony.” See Nijhawan v. Holder, 
    129 S. Ct. 2294
    , 2300–01
    (2009). Unlike the ACCA, the INA defines “aggravated felony” to
    specifically include a “conspiracy to commit” one of its listed offenses,
    among which is “burglary.” 
    8 U.S.C. § 1101
    (a)(43)(U). In Garcia-
    Santana, therefore, the question presented was whether “conspiracy”—as
    used in the INA—requires proof of an overt act; we held that it does. See
    Garcia-Santana, slip op. at 3. Here, by contrast, we must decide whether
    a Nevada conviction for conspiracy to commit robbery, even though it
    does not require an overt act, nonetheless “involves conduct that presents
    a serious potential risk of physical injury to another.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(B)(ii).
    3
    The firearm sentencing enhancement provision provides that “any
    person who, during and in relation to any crime of violence . . . uses or
    carries a firearm, shall, in addition to the punishment provided for such
    crime of violence . . .be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less
    than 5 years.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(1).
    4
    The provision referenced in Mendez—
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(3)(B)—
    defines crime of violence for the purposes of the firearm sentencing
    enhancement provision that was at issue in that case. It states that “the
    term ‘crime of violence’ means an offense that is a felony and . . . by its
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    in violation of [the Hobbs Act] ‘by its nature, involves a
    substantial risk that physical force . . . may be used in the
    course of committing the offense,’” and is thus a crime of
    violence. Mendez, 
    992 F.2d at 1491
     (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(3)(B)). Cognizant of this binding precedent,5 we
    consider whether conspiracy to commit robbery under
    Nevada law is a “violent felony” as that term is defined in
    § 924(e)(2)(B)(ii).
    1. Serious potential risk of injury
    The first question under Park is whether the conduct
    encompassed by the elements of conspiracy to commit
    robbery under Nevada law ordinarily “present[] a serious
    potential risk of physical injury to another.” Park, 
    649 F.3d at
    1177–78 (quoting James, 
    550 U.S. at 208
    ) (brackets in the
    original). Because Mendez established that conspiracy to
    commit robbery “categorically creates a substantial risk that
    physical force may be used,” Mendez, 
    992 F.2d at 1492
    , we
    must answer in the affirmative.
    nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or
    property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.”
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(3)(B).
    5
    As Judge Bybee points out, the circuits are split over whether
    conspiracy to commit a violent felony is itself a violent felony. See
    Concurrence at 28–29 (Bybee, J., concurring). Given that split, we
    recognize that Mendez may not survive the Supreme Court’s quartet of
    ACCA cases. But, at the least, Mendez is not “clearly irreconcilable” with
    the Supreme Court’s precedent, so we are bound to apply Mendez until it
    is expressly overruled by an en banc panel of this court. See Miller v.
    Gammie, 
    335 F.3d 889
    , 900 (9th Cir. 2003) (en banc).
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    Admittedly, Mendez differs from this case in two respects.
    First, Mendez involved conspiracy to commit robbery in
    violation of the Hobbs Act, 
    18 U.S.C. § 1951
    , whereas here,
    Chandler was convicted of conspiracy to commit robbery in
    violation of 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 199.480
    , 200.380. The Hobbs
    Act penalizes “[w]hoever in any way or degree obstructs,
    delays or affects commerce . . . by robbery . . . or conspires so
    to do.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 1951
    (a). The Act then defines robbery
    as “the unlawful taking or obtaining of personal property
    from the person or in the presence of another, against his will,
    by means of actual or threatened force, or violence.”
    
    18 U.S.C. § 1951
    (b)(1). And conspiracy under federal law
    occurs “[i]f two or more persons conspire [ ] to commit any
    offense against the United States.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 371
    ; see also
    United States v. Feola, 
    420 U.S. 671
    , 692 (1975) (“[T]he
    essence of conspiracy is agreement.”).
    Nevada also defines conspiracy as “an agreement between
    two or more persons for an unlawful purpose.” Nunnery v.
    Eighth Judicial Dist. Court ex rel. Cnty. of Clark, 
    186 P.3d 886
    , 888 (Nev. 2008) (per curiam) (internal quotation marks
    omitted); see also 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 199.480
    (1). And, under
    Nevada law, robbery is “the unlawful taking of personal
    property from the person of another, or in the person’s
    presence, against his or her will, by means of force or
    violence or fear of injury.” 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.380
    (1).
    Thus, federal law and Nevada law both effectively define
    conspiracy to commit robbery as an agreement between two
    or more persons to unlawfully take property from another
    person against his or her will. Because federal law is
    substantially similar to Nevada law, the first distinction
    between Mendez and this case is insignificant.
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    Second, Mendez differs from this case because it involved
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(1), which subjects individuals who use a
    firearm in the course of a “crime of violence” to an additional
    five years’ imprisonment. The statute defines a crime of
    violence as any offense “that by its nature, involves a
    substantial risk that physical force against the person or
    property of another may be used in the course of committing
    the offense.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(3)(B). By contrast,
    Chandler appeals a sentencing enhancement under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii), which subjects individuals who have three
    previous convictions for “violent felonies” to a minimum of
    fifteen-years imprisonment. A violent felony is an offense
    that “is burglary, arson, or extortion, involves use of
    explosives, or otherwise involves conduct that presents a
    serious potential risk of physical injury to another.” 
    Id.
    Both statutes are similar because they apply to crimes that
    involve a serious or substantial risk that physical force will
    occur during the course of the offense. The major difference
    between these two statutes is that the ACCA only applies to
    seriously dangerous crimes that are similar to the enumerated
    offenses, whereas 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(1) applies to all
    substantially dangerous offenses. In light of this difference,
    Mendez is not helpful when analyzing the second prong of the
    Park framework. Nevertheless, because Mendez uses the
    substantial risk of injury test, which is similar to the serious
    risk of injury test that we consider here, it still applies to our
    analysis of the first prong.6
    6
    Indeed, “substantial” is defined as important, essential, “not seeming
    or imaginary.” Webster’s Third New International Dictionary of the
    English Language Unabridged (2002). Similarly, “serious” is defined as
    “[g]rave in disposition, appearance, or manner: not light.” 
    Id.
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    Accordingly, despite the differences between Mendez and
    this case, we are bound by Mendez to conclude that
    “conspiracy to rob . . . ‘by its nature, involves a substantial
    risk that physical force . . . may be used in the course of
    committing the offense.’” Mendez, 
    992 F.2d at 1491
     (quoting
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(3)(B)); see also United States v. Gore,
    
    636 F.3d 728
    , 738 (5th Cir. 2011) (“An agreement to commit
    aggravated robbery presents a serious potential risk of
    injury.”); United States v. Turner, 
    501 F.3d 59
    , 67 (1st Cir.
    2007).
    2. Risk of injury roughly similar to the enumerated
    offenses in the ACCA
    Because we previously determined that robbery in
    Nevada involves a serious risk of physical force, we must
    now answer the more difficult question: whether conspiracy
    to commit robbery in Nevada is “‘roughly similar, in kind as
    well as in degree of risk posed’ to those offenses enumerated
    at the beginning of the residual clause.” Spencer, 724 F.3d at
    1140 (quoting Park, 
    649 F.3d at 1178
    ). Under Mendez, a
    conspiracy to commit a violent crime creates the same risk of
    harm as the violent crime itself. 
    992 F.2d at 1492
    . So, if
    robbery in Nevada is “roughly similar, in kind as well as in
    degree of risk posed” to burglary, arson, or extortion,
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii), then conspiracy to commit
    robbery is also comparable to the enumerated offenses. Here,
    robbery as defined by Nevada is most similar to extortion and
    burglary.
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    The Supreme Court has defined extortion as “obtaining
    something of value from another with his consent[7] induced
    by the wrongful use of force, fear, or threats.” Scheidler v.
    Nat’l Org. for Women, Inc., 
    537 U.S. 393
    , 409 (2003)
    (internal quotation marks omitted).            We previously
    determined that a Nevada state conviction for robbery is a
    crime of violence under the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines
    because “
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.380
     . . . satisf[ies] the generic
    definition of extortion.” See United States v. Harris,
    
    572 F.3d 1065
    , 1065–66 (9th Cir. 2009) (per curiam).
    Burglary is “an unlawful or unprivileged entry into, or
    remaining in, a building or other structure, with intent to
    commit a crime.” Taylor v. United States, 
    495 U.S. 575
    , 598
    (1990). The real danger of burglary, like robbery, is “the
    possibility of a face-to-face confrontation” with the victim or
    an intervener. James, 
    550 U.S. at 203
    . Indeed, robbery, like
    burglary, “is dangerous because it can end in confrontation
    leading to violence.” Sykes, 
    131 S. Ct. at 2273
    . In fact, the
    risk posed by robbery may actually be greater than the risk
    posed by burglary because robbery requires a taking from a
    person, against his or her will, by means of force or violence
    or fear of injury, whereas burglary may be completed without
    any human interaction. See United States v. Davis, 
    487 F.3d 282
    , 286 (5th Cir. 2007) (“To commit robbery, an individual
    must interact with the victim in order to cause bodily injury
    or place the victim in fear of it.”).
    7
    Nevada’s definition of robbery differs from extortion because the
    taking of property there must be “against the will” of the victim. But as
    Professor LaFave has explained, this difference is not significant because
    “both crimes equally require that the defendant’s threats induce the victim
    to give up his property, something which he would not otherwise have
    done.” 3 W. LaFave, Substantive Criminal Law § 20.4(b) (2d ed. 2003).
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    Accordingly, we conclude that robbery poses risks similar
    to extortion and burglary. As such, conspiracy to commit
    robbery in Nevada is also similar, in kind and degree of risk
    posed, to extortion and burglary. See Gore, 
    636 F.3d at 741
    (“We are satisfied that conspiracy to commit aggravated
    robbery, in the ordinary case, presents a serious risk of injury
    similar in kind and degree to the enumerated offenses.”).
    3. Conclusion
    A Nevada conviction for robbery is a violent felony
    because it creates a serious risk of harm that is comparable to
    the risk posed by burglary. And because after Mendez, “the
    § 924(e) analysis of a prior conspiracy conviction is governed
    by the substantive offense that was the object of the
    conspiracy,” United States v. Boaz, 
    558 F.3d 800
     (8th Cir.
    2009), conspiracy to commit robbery, pursuant to 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. §§ 199.480
    , 200.380, is also a “violent felony” under
    the ACCA’s residual clause. See also United States v. White,
    
    571 F.3d 365
    , 370, 372 (4th Cir. 2009) (“[T]he essential
    conduct underlying the Conspiracy Offense is categorically
    violent . . . [and] [t]he Conspiracy Offense cannot be divorced
    from its violent objective—robbery with a deadly weapon.”).
    B. Second degree kidnapping
    Under Nevada law:
    A person who willfully and without authority
    of law seizes, inveigles, takes, carries away or
    kidnaps another person with the intent to keep
    the person secretly imprisoned within the
    State, or for the purpose of conveying the
    person out of the State without authority of
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    law, or in any manner held to service or
    detained against the person’s will, is guilty of
    kidnapping in the second degree.
    
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.310
    (2).
    We have not previously had the opportunity to consider
    whether second degree kidnapping under Nevada law is a
    violent felony. But, in United States v. Williams, 
    110 F.3d 50
    (9th Cir. 1997), we determined that second degree kidnapping
    under Oregon law, Ore. Rev. Stat. § 163.225(1)(a), is a crime
    of violence as the term is defined in § 4B1.2(a)(2) of the
    Sentencing Guidelines. Id. at 51–53. And in United States v.
    Sherbondy, 
    865 F.2d 996
     (9th Cir. 1988), we observed that
    kidnapping as defined by the Model Penal Code “entails a
    ‘serious potential risk of physical injury’ to the victim,
    making the offense a ‘violent felony’ under subsection (ii).”
    
    Id. at 1009
     (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii)). Although
    neither of these cases involved statutes exactly like Nevada’s,
    we keep these persuasive authorities in mind as we review
    Chandler’s second degree kidnapping conviction. Once
    again, we apply the framework that we established in Park,
    
    649 F.3d 1175
    .
    1. Serious risk of harm
    Chandler argues that second degree kidnapping as defined
    by Nevada law can occur in ways that are both violent and
    nonviolent, particularly because “inveigling” does not require
    force or restraint. See Bridges v. State, 
    6 P.3d 1000
    , 1009
    (Nev. 2000); Black’s Law Dictionary 843 (8th Ed. 2004)
    (inveigle means “to lure or entice through deceit or
    insincerity”). Accordingly, he contends that we must use the
    UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER                    17
    modified categorical approach to determine whether his
    conviction involved violent conduct. We disagree.
    We have determined that kidnapping presents a risk of
    serious force, even where the kidnapping statute at issue has
    no force requirement. See Delgado-Hernandez v. Holder,
    
    697 F.3d 1125
    , 1133 (9th Cir. 2012) (considering whether
    attempted kidnapping is an aggravated felony). In Delgado-
    Hernandez, we referenced the federal kidnapping statute,
    
    18 U.S.C. § 1201
    (a), which punishes anyone who
    “‘unlawfully seizes, confines, inveigles, decoys, kidnaps,
    abducts, or carries away and holds for ransom or reward or
    otherwise any person.’” 
    Id. at 1130
     (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 1201
    (a)). We adopted the Sixth Circuit’s reasoning in
    explaining that:
    [T]he essence of kidnapping is requiring
    another to do something against his or her
    will; and because physical force or restraint is
    usually the best way to overbear the will of
    another, physical force or threat of force is a
    latent, but more often actual, companion of
    the coercive element. That deception may be
    used to effect the kidnapping does not erase
    the ever-present possibility that the victim
    may figure out what’s really going on and
    decide to resist, in turn requiring the
    perpetrator to resort to actual physical
    restraint if he is to carry out the criminal plan.
    
    Id.
     at 1130–31 (quoting United States v. Kaplansky, 
    42 F.3d 320
    , 324 (6th Cir. 1994)). Additionally, we observed in
    Delgado-Hernandez that “the Supreme Court has seen fit to
    assume, admittedly without deciding, that [kidnapping]
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    constitutes a crime that presents a substantial risk of force.”
    Delgado-Hernandez, 697 F.3d at 1130 (citing United States
    v. Rodriguez-Moreno, 
    526 U.S. 275
    , 280 (1999)). And while
    the Supreme Court’s statement in this regard was dictum, it
    is nevertheless highly persuasive. See United States v.
    Montero-Camargo, 
    208 F.3d 1122
    , 1132 n.17 (9th Cir. 2000)
    (“Supreme Court dicta have a weight that is greater than
    ordinary judicial dicta as prophecy of what the Court might
    hold; accordingly, we do not blandly shrug them off because
    they were not a holding.”).8
    Of particular importance here, Nevada’s second degree
    kidnapping statute is very similar to the federal kidnapping
    statute that we reviewed in Delgado-Hernandez. Compare
    
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.310
    (2) (a person is guilty of kidnapping
    if he unlawfully “seizes, inveigles, takes, carries away, or
    kidnaps” another person), with 
    18 U.S.C. § 1201
    (a) (a person
    commits kidnapping if he unlawfully “seizes, confines,
    inveigles, decoys, kidnaps, abducts, or carries away” another
    person). Kidnapping could potentially be committed in both
    jurisdictions without the use of force. Because of the
    similarities between the Nevada second degree kidnapping
    statute and the federal kidnapping statute, our reasoning in
    Delgado-Hernandez is highly persuasive here.
    8
    In Delgado-Hernandez we also noted that “legislative bodies,
    including Congress, have consistently treated kidnapping as a crime of
    violence.” Delgado-Hernandez, 697 F.3d at 1131–33. After surveying
    the evidence, we concluded: “In sum, numerous courts have held that
    kidnapping generally presents a risk of substantial force. Congress, the
    Sentencing Commission, and forty jurisdictions have concluded,
    consistent with historical practice, that kidnapping is a violent crime.” Id.
    at 1133.
    UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER                           19
    Thus, even though force is not required, second degree
    kidnapping as defined by Nevada law still presents a serious
    potential risk of physical injury to another.9 See also United
    States v. Sherbondy, 
    865 F.2d at 1009
     (“kidnapping entails a
    ‘serious potential risk of physical injury’ to the victim”);
    Kaplansky, 
    42 F.3d at 324
     (“kidnapping is the ‘type’ of
    offense where the risk of physical injury to the victim is
    invariably present”).
    2. Risk of injury roughly similar to the enumerated
    offenses in the ACCA
    The only question remaining, then, is whether second
    degree kidnapping under Nevada law is a crime that is
    “roughly similar, in kind as well as in degree of risk posed”
    to burglary, arson, extortion, or crimes involving the use of
    explosives. Begay, 
    553 U.S. at 143
    . Like conspiracy to
    commit robbery, second degree kidnapping is similar to the
    enumerated crime of burglary.
    As we discussed above, “[b]urglary is dangerous because
    it can end in confrontation leading to violence.” Sykes, 
    131 S. Ct. at 2273
    . By comparison, kidnapping is riskier than
    burglary because “a face-to-face confrontation,” James,
    
    550 U.S. at 203
    , with the victim is very likely when a
    kidnapping occurs. Accordingly, the second prong of the
    9
    If anything, it would seem that Nevada second degree kidnapping
    categorically presents a greater risk of force than the federal kidnapping
    statute. Compare Nev. Rev. Stat.§ 200.310(2) (requiring that the action
    be done “with the intent to keep the person secretly imprisoned within the
    State,” “for the purpose of conveying the person out of the State without
    authority of law,” or “ in any manner held to service or detained against
    the person’s will”), with 
    18 U.S.C. § 1201
    (a) (lacking the heightened mens
    rea requirements of the Nevada statute).
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    Park framework is satisfied. See, e.g., Delgado-Hernandez,
    697 F.3d at 1128–30 (describing the substantial risks
    kidnapping poses); Sherbondy, 
    865 F.2d at 1009
     (reasoning
    that kidnapping, as defined in the Model Penal Code, is a
    violent felony).
    3. Conclusion
    We conclude that second degree kidnapping in Nevada
    categorically involves a serious risk that physical force may
    be used in the course of committing the offense and that this
    risk is roughly similar to the risk involved in burglary.
    Accordingly, we hold that second degree kidnapping under
    Nevada law is categorically a “violent felony” under the
    residual clause of the ACCA.
    III.   CONCLUSION
    For the foregoing reasons, conspiracy to commit robbery
    and second degree kidnapping are “violent felonies” under
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii). Accordingly, Chandler is
    subject to the fifteen-year sentencing enhancement under
    § 924(e)(1) for having previously been convicted of three
    violent felonies.
    The judgment of the district court is AFFIRMED.
    BYBEE, Circuit Judge, with whom TASHIMA, Circuit
    Judge, and WOOD, Senior District Judge, join, concurring:
    I agree that United States v. Mendez, 
    992 F.2d 1488
     (9th
    Cir. 1993), requires our per curiam holding that conspiracy to
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    commit robbery is a “violent felony” under 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii). I write separately to question the
    reasoning and continued validity of Mendez.
    I
    Not all felonies are “violent felonies.” As indicated by its
    title, the Armed Career Criminal Act’s (“ACCA”) fifteen-
    year mandatory prison term is intended for career criminals,
    those offenders whose prior crimes “reveal a degree of
    callousness toward risk” and “show an increased likelihood
    that the offender is the kind of person who might deliberately
    point [a] gun and pull the trigger.” Begay v. United States,
    
    553 U.S. 137
    , 146 (2008); see also Sykes v. United States,
    
    131 S. Ct. 2267
    , 2275 (2011). By contrast, the ACCA’s
    fifteen-year mandatory minimum sentence was not intended
    for “reckless polluters” or those who “recklessly tamper with
    consumer products.” Begay, 
    553 U.S. at
    146–47.
    When determining whether a felony is a “violent felony”
    courts must “employ the ‘categorical approach’” to determine
    whether an offense “‘involves conduct that presents a serious
    potential risk of physical injury to another.’” James v. United
    States, 
    550 U.S. 192
    , 201–02 (2007) (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii)). Under the categorical approach, the
    relevant inquiry is whether the statutory elements of the
    offense “are of the type that would justify its inclusion within
    the residual provision.” 
    Id. at 202
    .
    Mendez does not satisfy this standard for two reasons.
    First, Mendez treats the elements of conspiracy to commit a
    crime as identical to the elements of the underlying crime.
    Second, proceeding from that faulty premise, Mendez holds
    that conspiracy to commit robbery is a crime of violence even
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    though conspiracy rarely, if ever, presents a serious potential
    risk of injury to another.
    II
    In Mendez, we used the categorical approach—as we
    understood it in 1993—to determine “whether conspiracy to
    rob is . . . by definition [ ] a ‘crime of violence’” under
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (c)(1). 
    992 F.2d at
    1490–91. This was a
    good start, but we then broadly declared, intuitively, but
    without any analysis of the elements of robbery as defined in
    the Hobbs Act, that “[r]obbery indisputably qualifies as a
    crime of violence.” 
    Id. at 1491
    . Then, without any analysis
    of the elements of conspiracy, we decided that conspiracy to
    commit robbery presents the same serious potential risk of
    physical injury as completed robbery because the existence of
    a criminal conspiracy increases the chances the planned crime
    will be committed. 
    Id. at 1492
    .
    In addition to being illogical, Mendez’s conclusion is
    questionable in light of recent Supreme Court precedent. In
    James, the Court considered whether attempted burglary was
    a violent felony under the ACCA’s residual clause, even
    though burglary is one of the violent felonies enumerated in
    the ACCA’s residual clause. 
    550 U.S. at 195
    . A prolonged
    analysis would have been wholly unnecessary if the inchoate
    offense, attempted burglary, was the same as the actual
    felony, burglary. But, as the Court determined, inchoate
    offenses may pose different risks than the underlying offense.
    
    Id. at 204
    . For example, “the risk posed by an attempted
    burglary . . . may be even greater than that posed by a typical
    completed burglary” because attempted burglaries are often
    thwarted by an intervenor. 
    Id.
     Thus, James demonstrates
    that every inchoate offense must be considered individually,
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    regardless of whether the underlying offense is categorically
    a violent felony, because different offenses pose different
    risks.
    James is consistent with the well-established rule that
    inchoate offenses are separate from completed offenses.
    Iannelli v. United States, 
    420 U.S. 770
    , 778 (1975) (“This
    Court repeatedly has recognized that a conspiracy poses
    distinct dangers quite apart from those of the substantive
    offense.”); Braverman v. United States, 
    317 U.S. 49
    , 54
    (1942) (“A conspiracy is not the commission of the crime
    which it contemplates, and neither violates nor ‘arises under’
    the statute whose violation is its object.”); see also United
    States v. Iribe, 
    564 F.3d 1155
    , 1160 (9th Cir. 2009) (quoting
    United States v. Macias-Valencia, 
    510 F.3d 1012
    , 1014 (9th
    Cir. 2007) (“‘Conspiracy and attempt are inchoate crimes that
    do not require completion of the criminal objective.’”)).
    This case presents a prime example of the significant
    differences between an inchoate offense (conspiracy to
    commit robbery) and a completed offense (robbery). In
    Nevada, robbery is defined as:
    the unlawful taking of personal property from
    the person of another, or in the person’s
    presence, against his or her will, by means of
    force or violence or fear of injury, immediate
    or future, to his or her person or property, or
    the person or property of a member of his or
    her family, or of anyone in his or her company
    at the time of the robbery.
    
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.380
    (1). “More briefly stated, robbery
    has as its elements the taking of the property of another from
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    his person or presence through the application of force or
    fear.” State v. Feinzilber, 
    350 P.2d 399
    , 401 (Nev. 1960)
    (discussing 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.380
    (1)).
    By comparison, Nevada’s conspiracy statute, Nev. Rev.
    Stat.§ 199.480, simply states that conspiracy occurs
    “whenever two or more persons conspire to commit murder,
    robbery, sexual assault, [or other enumerated offenses].”
    Unlike some states, Nevada does not require an overt act in
    pursuance of the crime, 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 199.490
    , so “[t]he
    gist of the crime of conspiracy is the unlawful agreement or
    confederation.” Lane v. Torvinen, 
    624 P.2d 1385
    , 1386 (Nev.
    1981).
    The Supreme Court of Nevada addressed the difference
    between conspiracy to commit robbery and robbery in
    Nunnery v. Eighth Judicial Dist. Court ex rel. County of
    Clark, 
    186 P.3d 886
     (Nev. 2008) (per curiam), in order to
    decide whether “conspiracy to commit robbery is [ ] a felony
    involving the use or threat of violence.” 
    Id. at 887
    . The court
    began by analyzing an earlier case where it decided that
    solicitation to commit murder is not a violent crime because
    “in the crime of solicitation, the harm is the asking—nothing
    more need be proven.” Hidalgo v. Eighth Judicial Dist.
    Court, 
    184 P.3d 369
    , 373 (Nev. 2008) (en banc) (per curiam)
    (citations and internal quotation marks omitted).1 The
    1
    Hidalgo also included observations that are equally applicable to
    conspiracy. For example, conspiracy, much like “[s]olicitation is
    criminalized . . . because it carries the risk or possibility that it could lead
    to a consummated crime,” but under Nevada law “a risk or potential of
    harm to others ‘does not constitute a “threat.”’” 
    Id.
     (quoting Redeker v.
    Eighth Judicial Dist. Court ex rel. County of Clark, 127 P.3d. 520, 527
    (Nev. 2006)). “Obviously, the nature of the crime Hidalgo allegedly
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    Supreme Court of Nevada then explained that Hidalgo
    “applie[d] with equal force here” because “conspiracy is
    committed upon reaching the unlawful agreement.” Nunnery,
    186 P.3d at 888. And because conspiracy does not require an
    overt act—let alone a violent one—the Supreme Court of
    Nevada concluded, “although conspiracy to commit robbery
    involves conspiring to commit a violent act, it is not itself a
    felony involving the use or threat of violence.” Id. at 889.
    I see no reason why this court should diverge from the
    Supreme Court of Nevada’s sound reasoning and the well-
    established law that conspiracy to commit a crime is not the
    same as committing a crime. But until we are willing to re-
    evaluate Mendez, offenders like Chandler will be categorized
    as “career offenders” based on robberies which they
    discussed but did not actually commit.
    III
    Furthermore, because of its illogical holding that
    conspiracy to do x = x, Mendez did not evaluate whether the
    elements of conspiracy to commit robbery “involve[ ]
    conduct that presents a serious potential risk of physical
    injury to another.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (e)(2)(B)(ii). I submit
    that this omission significantly undermines Mendez’s
    continued validity because conspiracy to commit robbery
    does not “show an increased likelihood that the offender is
    the kind of person who might deliberately point [a] gun and
    pull the trigger.” Begay, 
    553 U.S. at 146
    .
    solicited is itself violent. But this does not transform soliciting murder
    into threatening murder.” Id. at 374.
    26             UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER
    There is little doubt that robbery poses a “serious
    potential risk of physical injury to another” at the time it is
    committed. See United States v. Harris, 
    572 F.3d 1065
    , 1066
    (9th Cir. 2009) (per curiam) (determining that “a conviction
    under 
    Nev. Rev. Stat. § 200.380
     [for robbery] categorically
    qualifies as a crime of violence for purposes of the career
    offender sentencing enhancement” under the Sentencing
    Guidelines).
    Conspiracy to commit robbery, however, poses a risk that
    a robbery will be committed only in the future. See
    Chambers v. United States, 
    555 U.S. 122
    , 128 (2009)
    (rejecting the government’s argument that an offense is a
    violent felony because it posed a risk of violence in the
    future); Lane, 
    624 P.2d at 1386
     (“The gist of the crime of
    conspiracy is the unlawful agreement or confederation.”).
    And as the Supreme Court of Nevada has aptly explained, “a
    risk or potential of harm to others does not constitute a
    threat.” Hidalgo, 
    184 P.3d at 373
     (citations and internal
    quotation marks omitted); see also Nunnery, 186 P.3d at
    888–89 (holding that conspiracy to commit robbery is not a
    violent crime because “the elements of conspiracy to commit
    robbery do not include the use or threat of violence to the
    person of another”).
    Mendez incidentally acknowledges the difference between
    imminent and future harm. 
    992 F.2d at
    1491–92 (“[W]here
    conspirators agree to use ‘actual or threatened force, or
    violence’ to obtain personal property from another . . . the
    risk that physical force may be used . . . is substantial.”
    (emphasis added) (citations and internal quotation marks
    omitted))). But Mendez does not recognize that although a
    person conspiring to commit robbery is “doing something at
    the relevant time, there is no reason to believe that the
    UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER                             27
    something poses a serious potential risk of physical injury.”
    Chambers, 
    555 U.S. at 128
    . “To the contrary, an individual
    who [conspires to commit robbery] would seem unlikely, not
    likely, to call attention to his whereabouts by simultaneously
    engaging in additional violent and unlawful conduct.” 
    Id. at 127
    ; see also Grunewald v. United States, 
    353 U.S. 391
    , 402
    (1957) (“For every conspiracy is by its very nature secret; a
    case can hardly be supposed where men concert together for
    crime and advertise their purpose to the world.”).
    It is only when overt acts directed toward the commission
    of the crime are committed that a crime begins to pose a
    “serious potential risk of physical injury to another.”
    
    18 U.S.C. § 924
    (3)(2)(B)(ii). But, in Nevada, once there has
    been an overt act, the offense is no longer a mere conspiracy.2
    Nunnery, 186 P.3d at 888–89. Instead, the offense becomes
    either attempted or completed robbery—offenses which
    ordinarily pose a more serious potential risk of harm to
    others.
    In other words, conspiracy is at least one “step away from
    any physical dimension.” United States v. Raupp, 
    677 F.3d 756
    , 763 (7th Cir. 2012) (Wood, J., dissenting). And because
    the “step” between discussing or even agreeing on
    possibilities and physical action is a significant one, I
    maintain that conspiracy to commit robbery is simply not an
    offense “of the type that would justify its inclusion within the
    2
    The Supreme Court of Nevada aptly explained this difference:
    “Between preparation for the attempt and the attempt itself, there is a wide
    difference. The preparation consists in devising or arranging the means
    or measures necessary for the commission of the offense; the attempt is
    the direct movement toward the commission after the preparations are
    made.” State v. Verganadis, 
    248 P. 900
    , 901 (Nev. 1926) (citation and
    internal quotation marks omitted).
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    residual provision.” James, 
    550 U.S. at 202
    . At the very
    least, the risk of serious physical harm posed by conspiracy
    to commit robbery—Mendez notwithstanding—is
    substantially different from the risk of serious harm posed by
    robbery.
    IV
    Despite these concerns, I, like the majority, cannot say
    that the Supreme Court’s ACCA decisions “undercut the
    theory or reasoning” of Mendez “in such a way that the cases
    are clearly irreconcilable.” Miller v. Gammie, 
    335 F.3d 889
    ,
    900 (9th Cir. 2003) (en banc) (emphasis added). Indeed,
    interpretation of the ACCA is challenging, and the circuits are
    split over whether conspiracy is a violent felony.
    At least five circuits have held that conspiracy may
    qualify as a violent felony. See United States v. Gore,
    
    636 F.3d 728
    , 738 (5th Cir. 2011) (“An agreement to commit
    aggravated robbery presents a serious potential risk of injury
    . . . . This is particularly true when an overt act in furtherance
    of the agreement is performed. We need not consider whether
    an agreement without such an overt act would suffice for
    purposes of the ACCA.”); United States v. White, 
    571 F.3d 365
    , 372 (4th Cir. 2009) (“[T]he essential conduct underlying
    the Conspiracy Offense is categorically violent. The
    Conspiracy Offense cannot be divorced from its violent
    objective—robbery with a deadly weapon.”); United States v.
    Boaz, 
    558 F.3d 800
    , 807 (8th Cir. 2009) (“The § 924(e)
    analysis of a prior conspiracy conviction is governed by the
    substantive offense that was the object of the conspiracy
    . . . .”); United States v. Hawkins, 
    139 F.3d 29
    , 34 (1st Cir.
    1998) (holding that conspiracy to commit armed robbery is a
    violent felony under the ACCA because “[w]e have also
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    unequivocally held that conspiracy to commit a crime of
    violence . . . it itself a crime of violence”); United States v.
    Preston, 
    910 F.2d 81
    , 87 (3d Cir. 1990) (“Since [the
    defendant] was convicted of conspiracy to commit a violent
    felony, the use or threat of physical force was a part of his
    prior conviction for this crime.”).
    By contrast, at least two circuits have held that conspiracy
    does not qualify as a violent felony. See United States v.
    Whitson, 
    597 F.3d 1218
    , 1222 (11th Cir. 2010) (per curiam)
    (“Conspiring to commit a crime is a purposeful act . . . . But
    in South Carolina, the ‘gravamen of conspiracy is an
    agreement or combination. An overt act in furtherance of the
    conspiracy is not necessary to prove the crime.’” (internal
    citation omitted) (reaffirmed and applied in United States v.
    Lee, 
    631 F.3d 1343
    , 1349 (11th Cir. 2011)); United States v.
    Fell, 
    511 F.3d 1035
    , 1039–41 (10th Cir. 2007) (holding that
    a Colorado conviction for conspiracy to commit second-
    degree burglary was not a violent felony because “[a]lthough
    there is an overt act element, the act need not be directed
    toward the entry of a building or structure . . . . [M]any overt
    acts sufficient to sustain a Colorado conspiracy conviction
    create no risk of a violent confrontation between the
    defendant and an individual interacting with the conspirator
    while the overt act is being committed.”); United States v.
    King, 
    979 F.2d 801
    , 804 (10th Cir. 1992) (explaining that the
    Tenth Circuit “look[s] only to the elements of the conspiracy
    crime” and holding that conspiracy to commit robbery does
    “not necessarily present circumstances which created the high
    risk of violent confrontation inherent in a completed [armed
    robbery]” (alteration in original) (quotation marks and
    citation omitted)).
    30             UNITED STATES V. CHANDLER
    The circuit split shows that there are valid reasons to
    believe the Supreme Court’s ACCA cases did not “clearly”
    overrule Mendez’s holding that conspiracy to commit robbery
    categorically is a crime of violence (and thus a violent
    felony). But in light of the questionable reasoning in Mendez
    and intervening Supreme Court precedent, I submit that
    whether conspiracy can qualify as a violent felony is a
    difficult issue that warrants our en banc consideration.