United States v. Joel Dreyer ( 2013 )


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  •                    FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ,                 No. 10-50631
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    D.C. No.
    v.                    5:08-cr-00041-VAP-1
    JOEL STANLEY DREYER,                   ORDER AND
    Defendant-Appellant.           OPINION
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Central District of California
    Virginia A. Phillips, District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted
    February 8, 2012—Pasadena, California
    Filed January 7, 2013
    Before: Stephen Reinhardt, Kim McLane Wardlaw,
    and Consuelo M. Callahan, Circuit Judges.
    Order;
    Dissent to Order by Judge Tallman;
    Opinion by Judge Reinhardt;
    Dissent by Judge Callahan
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    SUMMARY*
    Criminal Law
    The panel issued an order (1) withdrawing an opinion and
    dissent filed October 12, 2012; (2) filing a superseding
    opinion and dissent; (3) stating that a vote on a judge’s sua
    sponte request to rehear the matter en banc failed to receive
    a majority of the votes of the nonrecused active judges in
    favor of en banc reconsideration; and (4) directing the clerk
    to issue the mandate forthwith.
    In the superseding opinion, the panel vacated a sentence
    and remanded for the district court to evaluate the defendant’s
    competency on the basis of an evidentiary hearing. The panel
    held that the record before the district court at sentencing was
    sufficient to cause a genuine doubt as to the defendant’s
    competency and that the district court committed plain error
    by failing to order a hearing sua sponte.
    In the superseding dissent, Judge Callahan wrote that she
    could not agree that it was plain error for the district court not
    to sua sponte order a competency hearing after the defendant
    pleaded guilty and received the benefit of his plea agreement
    but before sentencing.
    Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge
    Tallman (joined by Chief Judge Kozinski and Judges
    O’Scannlain, Bybee, Callahan, Bea, Ikuta, and N.R. Smith)
    *
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    wrote that by failing to take the case en banc, this court has
    made a hash of the plain error standard, and that the
    majority’s decision will wreak havoc on sentencing
    proceedings.
    COUNSEL
    Pamela O’Leary Tower (argued), Kenwood, California; Roger
    J. Rosen, Los Angeles, California, for Appellant.
    Antoine F. Raphael (argued), Assistant United States
    Attorney; Andre Birotte Jr., United States Attorney,
    Riverside, California for Appellee.
    ORDER
    The opinion and dissent filed August 21, 2012 are
    withdrawn. A superseding opinion and dissent was circulated
    to the Court on October 12, 2012 and is being filed
    concurrently with this order.
    After the superseding opinion and dissent was circulated,
    a judge sua sponte requested a vote on whether to rehear the
    matter en banc. Although no petition for rehearing or petition
    for rehearing en banc was filed, the parties were given notice
    of the superseding opinion and dissent and permitted the
    opportunity to state their positions on whether the matter
    should be reheard en banc. The matter failed to receive a
    majority of the votes of the nonrecused active judges in favor
    of en banc reconsideration. FED . R. APP . P. 35.
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    No future petition for rehearing or petition for rehearing
    en banc will be entertained. The clerk is directed to issue
    the mandate forthwith.
    Judge Callahan would have the mandate issue after seven
    days as generally provided by Federal Rule of Appellate
    Procedure 41(b).
    TALLMAN, Circuit Judge, joined by KOZINSKI, Chief
    Judge, and O’SCANNLAIN, BYBEE, CALLAHAN, BEA,
    IKUTA, and N.R. SMITH, Circuit Judges, dissenting from
    the denial of rehearing en banc:
    By failing to take this case en banc we have made a hash
    of the plain error standard. Under the guise of a plain error
    review, the majority has conducted a de novo analysis,
    concluding that the district court plainly erred by not sua
    sponte ordering a competency hearing prior to sentencing.
    The majority’s decision is not only irreconcilable with our
    prior precedents, it also will wreak havoc on sentencing
    proceedings. In the wake of this decision, district judges may
    feel compelled to order a competency hearing any time a
    defendant suffers from a medical condition and, as a result,
    cannot “expres[s] himself appropriately or in a manner that
    could assist in his defense.” United States v. Dreyer,
    
    693 F.3d 803
    , 813 (9th Cir. 2012).
    Federal courts nationwide pronounced 86,000 sentences
    in 2011; 21,000 of these sentences were pronounced in the
    Ninth Circuit alone. United States Sentencing Commission,
    Statistical Information Packet 3 tbl. 2 (2011). Defendants
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    with medical and psychological deficiencies that prevent or
    impair their ability to allocute are not infrequently sentenced,
    and district courts, quite properly, do not routinely conclude
    that such impairments rise to the level of legal incompetence.
    The Dreyer opinion affords no deference to district courts,
    which are uniquely qualified to evaluate competency at
    sentencing, and will only result in unnecessary and expensive
    evaluations, hearings, resentencings, and remands when
    evidence of legal incompetence is limited or absent.
    To justify its conclusion, the majority relies on a distorted
    interpretation of the facts and a tortured construction of
    existing precedent. The majority finds plain error even
    though three doctors opined that Dreyer was competent to
    plead guilty, and even though no evidence suggested that
    Dreyer’s mental condition had deteriorated after he was last
    found competent, and even though neither party suggested a
    need for a competency evaluation prior to sentencing, and
    even though Dreyer’s behavior in court did not suggest the
    need for further evaluation. In vacating Dreyer’s sentence,
    the majority has improperly substituted its judgment for that
    of the district court, resulting in an opinion that will
    undermine the finality of any number of properly imposed
    sentences.
    I
    The record does not support the majority’s ruling that the
    district court’s failure to sua sponte conduct a competency
    hearing constituted plain error. The district court’s omission
    would only be error if, in light of the information contained in
    the record, a reasonable judge would have experienced
    genuine doubt regarding the defendant’s competence. United
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    States v. Marks, 
    530 F.3d 799
    , 814 (9th Cir. 2008). In
    determining whether such doubt exists, we must consider the
    following factors: “the defendant’s irrational behavior, his
    demeanor in court, and any prior medical opinions on his
    competence.” 
    Id.
     (internal quotation marks omitted). None
    of these factors support the majority’s conclusion that there
    was “substantial evidence” sufficient to raise a genuine doubt
    that Dreyer was incompetent to be sentenced. 
    Id.
     (internal
    quotation marks omitted).
    Three reports compiled by four medical experts each
    concluded that Dreyer suffered from early stage
    frontotemporal dementia. None opined that Dreyer’s medical
    condition rendered him legally incompetent. Instead, the
    doctors expressly found that Dreyer’s dementia did not
    “cause[] him to be unaware of the nature and consequences of
    his behavior, or that what he was doing was wrong,” that
    Dreyer’s “cognitive skills were intact,” and that Dreyer was
    “competent to plead guilty.” Dreyer, 693 F.3d at 816
    (Callahan, J., dissenting) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    Furthermore, as Dreyer concedes, he “did not manifest
    any observable signs of incompetency during the sentencing
    hearing.” Id. at 817. He responded to the district court’s
    inquiries in a coherent and respectful manner, and appeared
    to interact with his attorneys thoughtfully and to respond
    appropriately to evidence introduced against him. Although
    Dreyer declined to participate in allocution, this decision does
    not necessarily evidence incompetence, but rather is merely
    one factor that must be evaluated when considering whether
    Dreyer could “understand the nature and consequences of the
    proceedings against him [and] to assist properly in his
    defense.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 4241
    (a).
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    The district court was fully aware that Dreyer suffered
    from a medical disorder that at times impaired his inhibition
    and insight. The district judge reviewed the expert reports
    evaluating Dreyer’s mental health, considered Dreyer’s
    medical condition in calculating an appropriate sentence, and
    personally observed Dreyer’s behavior in court. In finding
    plain error, the majority disregarded the district court’s
    assessment of a fact-intensive competency inquiry, which is
    necessarily informed by the judge’s personal perception of
    Dreyer’s behavior at sentencing. On this record, the alleged
    failure to order a competency evaluation was not an “error
    that is so clear-cut, so obvious” that no competent district
    judge would have imposed sentence in its absence. United
    States v. Turman, 
    122 F.3d 1167
    , 1170 (9th Cir. 1997). As a
    result, the majority’s conclusion that the district court
    committed plain error is not defensible.
    II
    The majority’s conclusion is a significant expansion of
    existing precedent, under which we have found plain error
    only when the quality and magnitude of mental health
    evidence far exceeded what has been presented in this case.
    The evidence of Dreyer’s mental deficiencies does not begin
    to approximate the record of delusional psychosis and brain
    damage suffered by the defendants in United States v.
    Duncan, 
    643 F.3d 1242
     (9th Cir. 2011), and Odle v.
    Woodford, 
    238 F.3d 1084
     (9th Cir. 2001).
    In Duncan, we held that the district court erred in failing
    to order a competency hearing before imposing sentence. In
    that case, three experts concluded that the defendant suffered
    from delusions and was incompetent to represent himself,
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    MRI and PET scans showed “an unusual brain structure
    consistent with behavioral deficits in the ability to make
    rational plans and modulate emotions,” and defense counsel
    expressed genuine concern regarding the defendant’s
    competency. Duncan, 
    643 F.3d at 1249
     (internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    In Odle, we found error after noting that the defendant
    suffered severe trauma requiring the removal of a grapefruit-
    sized portion of his brain, attempted suicide, and was
    committed to psychiatric wards three times in as many years.
    Odle, 238 F.3d at 1088–89. Medical reports and expert
    evaluations evidenced that the defendant had an “organic
    brain disorder,” experienced hallucinations, “seemed
    confused,” and “beat his head against the wall.” Id. Given
    the defendant’s lengthy medical history demonstrating severe
    mental impairments, we found that: “Where a petitioner has
    suffered massive trauma to his brain and subsequently
    exhibits psychotic behavior, some of it while awaiting trial, an
    inquiry into whether he possesses the mental acuity to
    participate in the proceedings is the reasonable and
    appropriate course of action.” Id. at 1089.
    None of the expert reports evaluating Dreyer’s mental
    state identify any symptoms, diagnoses, or conditions that rise
    to the level of mental impairment evidenced in Duncan or
    Odle. Instead, the experts’ conclusions support a finding that
    Dreyer was competent to be sentenced. Defense counsel’s
    statements at sentencing do not alter this analysis. Counsel
    informed the court that Dreyer would not allocute due to his
    frontotemporal dementia, which might cause him to “speak
    inappropriately,” “make denials,” or “not accept
    responsibility.” Dreyer, 693 F.3d at 807 (majority opinion).
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    These statements were fully consistent with the district
    court’s prior understanding of Dreyer’s impaired verbal,
    behavioral, and impulse control, and should not have created
    any further doubt as to Dreyer’s competency to be sentenced.
    Absent further medical evidence of impaired comprehension,
    it was inappropriate under plain error review for the panel
    majority to declare that a reasonable jurist would have a
    genuine doubt as to Dreyer’s competency.
    III
    The majority’s conclusion cannot be reconciled with our
    prior cases in which we held that plain error was not
    established. As the dissent accurately notes, when a
    “defendant has a medical or mental health condition that may
    affect the brain but does not interfere with the defendant’s
    ability to rationally consult with his attorney and understand
    the proceedings, this Court has not found sufficient evidence
    of incompetenc[y]” to support a finding of plain error. Id. at
    820 (Callahan, J., dissenting) (emphasis added).
    For example, in United States v. White, 
    670 F.3d 1077
    ,
    1084–85 (9th Cir. 2012), we found that “a reasonable judge
    [would not have] a bona fide doubt” as to the defendant’s
    competency, even though the defendant exhibited outbursts in
    court and his attorneys indicated that he may suffer from
    delusions. In United States v. Mendez-Sanchez, 
    563 F.3d 935
    ,
    940–41, 948 (9th Cir. 2009), we concluded that the district
    court did not plainly err in failing to sua sponte order a
    competency hearing, despite evidence that the defendant
    behaved irrationally and experienced difficulties
    communicating with his counsel.
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    The majority attempts to distinguish these cases,
    concluding that neither involved a defendant with a
    “diagnos[ed] . . . medical disorder bearing on the defendant’s
    mental state.” Dreyer, 693 F.3d at 812 (majority opinion).
    However, this distinction misses the point. The sole inquiry
    must be whether the defendant was incapable of
    comprehending the proceedings or rationally communicating
    with counsel. See 
    18 U.S.C. § 4241
    (a). The impact of a
    medical condition on a defendant’s mental state is irrelevant
    unless the identified deficiencies interfere with the
    defendant’s ability to consult with his attorney or understand
    the proceedings.
    IV
    The majority assigns improper weight to the fact that
    Dreyer chose not to allocute. In doing so, the majority adds
    to the existing standard of legal competence by requiring that
    the defendant be able to speak persuasively on his own behalf
    at sentencing. See United States v. Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d 1199
    , 1251 (9th Cir. 2004). According to the majority
    opinion, “[c]ompetenc[y] at sentencing therefore requires . . .
    that the defendant be able to . . . participat[e] in his
    ‘elementary right’ of allocution.” Dreyer, 693 F.3d at 809.
    We have never held that a defendant’s election not to allocute,
    even if compelled by a medical or physical condition, is alone
    sufficient to require a competency hearing. Unable to rely on
    prior precedent, the majority manufactures a new competency
    standard out of whole cloth.
    The majority’s opinion suggests that a district court must
    sua sponte conduct a competency hearing anytime a defendant
    declines to speak at sentencing because of a “diagnose[d] . . .
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    medical disorder affecting the defendant’s mental condition.”
    Dreyer, 693 F.3d at 812. This quoted language necessarily
    encompasses a wide range of potential psychological and
    mental impairments. Nothing in the majority’s opinion limits
    its impact to defendants who have organic causes for their
    mental impairment or degenerative diseases that have a clear
    effect on the structure of their brain. Without further
    guidance, a district court may rationally conclude that it must
    sua sponte order a hearing when any number of impairments
    are identified. This result imposes a substantial burden on
    district courts and will only unnecessarily complicate
    sentencing proceedings.
    V
    The district court did not commit plain error, defined as
    an “error that is so clear-cut, so obvious,” that no “competent
    district judge” would make such a mistake, even “without the
    benefit of objection.” Turman, 
    122 F.3d at 1170
    . The
    majority’s decision cannot be reconciled with our prior
    precedents, under which we have found plain error only when
    the quality and magnitude of mental health evidence far
    exceeded what has been presented in this case. In their place,
    the majority has crafted an opinion that alters the existing
    standard for legal competence, fails to accord adequate
    respect for district courts charged with conducting sentencing
    proceedings, and undermines the finality of properly imposed
    criminal sentences. In light of the substantial medical
    evidence already available to the district court, there was no
    error seriously affecting the fairness, integrity, or reputation
    of the sentencing proceedings.
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    District courts now face the real risk of reversal for
    declining to act when neither party suggests there is a
    competency concern but the defendant elects not to allocute
    for medical reasons. Applying the majority’s opinion,
    reversal will be required even though the defendant’s
    condition does not impact the defendant’s ability to
    understand the sentencing proceedings or to rationally
    communicate with counsel. In attempting to comply with this
    misguided decision, district courts are left to navigate the
    shoals of Scylla and Charybdis. The Court should have voted
    to rehear this case en banc to remove this hazard to
    navigation.
    OPINION
    REINHARDT, Circuit Judge:
    At the age of 63, Joel Dreyer experienced the onset of
    frontotemporal dementia, a degenerative brain disorder that
    causes changes in personality and behavior, impairs social
    interactions, and causes disinhibition and a loss of insight and
    impulse control. He was a practicing psychiatrist at the time.
    From the age of 66 to 69, despite having no criminal history,
    Dreyer participated in a conspiracy to distribute controlled
    substances, and in December 2010, at the age of 73, he was
    sentenced to ten years imprisonment after he pleaded guilty to
    charges related to that conspiracy.
    At the sentencing hearing, the district court was provided
    with three expert reports: all three diagnosed Dreyer with
    frontotemporal dementia and noted that he exhibited textbook
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    manifestations of the condition since its apparent onset in
    2001, three years before his participation in the controlled
    substance conspiracy, and that his symptoms persisted into
    the present. Dreyer did not allocute at sentencing and defense
    counsel informed the court that his client would not address
    it due to the dementia’s effect on his behavior. Defense
    counsel did not move for a competency hearing and the
    district court did not order a hearing sua sponte. The court
    sentenced Dreyer to 120 months. Dreyer appeals his
    sentence, contending that the district court erred by failing sua
    sponte to order an evidentiary hearing to determine his
    competency at the time of sentencing.
    We hold that the record before the district court at
    sentencing was sufficient to cause a genuine doubt as to the
    defendant’s competence and that the court committed plain
    error by failing to order a hearing sua sponte. Accordingly,
    we vacate Dreyer’s sentence and remand for the district court
    to evaluate Dreyer’s competency on the basis of an
    evidentiary hearing.
    BACKGROUND
    Dreyer experienced a medical emergency in 2001 that
    coincided with the onset of frontotemporal dementia.
    Immediately after being released from the hospital, Dreyer’s
    family noticed significant changes in his personality and
    behavior. Within a few years Dreyer ended his previously-
    happy marriage to his wife of 17 years, engaged in
    uncharacteristic behavior and withdrew from his family to
    such a degree that friends and relatives concluded that he was
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    exhibiting early signs of dementia.1 Despite the family’s
    concerns, his illness remained undiagnosed. In 2004, the 66-
    year-old Dreyer, a licensed psychiatrist, began providing
    prescriptions of oxycodone and hydrocodone to patients
    outside of the usual course of professional practice. In 2007
    Dreyer was indicted on charges related to his participation in
    a conspiracy to possess and to distribute controlled
    substances. Although Dreyer had difficulty recognizing or
    admitting that his actions were inconsistent with professional
    standards of conduct, he nonetheless pleaded guilty in
    September 2009 to two counts of the thirty count indictment.
    Prior to sentencing, Dreyer submitted three different
    expert reports to the court, all of which diagnosed him as
    suffering from frontotemporal dementia.2 Two of the reports
    were obtained from experts hired by the defense, while the
    third expert was selected by the government but jointly
    commissioned by both parties. All three reports were
    1
    Dreyer’s family recounted a number of instances in which he behaved
    in ways that starkly contrasted with his pre-onset behavior. Among them
    was an instance when Dreyer appeared wearing dress slacks and nude
    from the waist up in the lobby of an expensive hotel to meet with his
    daughter and a family friend. His daughter also described Dreyer as
    behaving “detached and aloof” at her younger son’s bar mitzvah, going so
    far as to read a newspaper in the temple while his grandson gave his
    speech. This was a marked contrast from her first son’s bar mitzvah, at
    which the defendant “was engaged, singing [and] shedding tears of joy.”
    2
    At Dreyer’s change of plea hearing, he informed the court that a doctor
    had identified frontal lobe damage in his brain. At the time, Dreyer’s
    counsel made no comments regarding the effect of this condition on
    Dreyer’s ability to assist in his defense and the court did not have the
    benefit of any of these expert reports; all three reports were completed
    after Dreyer entered his guilty plea.
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    consistent in their diagnoses and descriptions of Dreyer’s
    symptoms. The joint report authored by the expert
    recommended by the prosecution, Dr. Martell, noted that
    Dreyer exhibited “behavioral disinhibition, frontal lobe
    cognitive dysfunction, memory impairment, loss of smell
    (anosmia), impaired word-finding ability (dysnomia),
    hypersexuality, loss of tact and social propriety, and lack of
    insight into his own impairments (anosagnosia).” The Martell
    report noted that Dreyer’s affect was normal and that he
    retained the ability to articulate, but that he suffered from
    “moderately severe impairment” in three areas of brain
    functioning: executive control, language, and memory. The
    report also stated that this condition affected his behavior and
    ability to communicate, as well as his ability to regulate his
    speech appropriately or to have insight into his own behavior.
    Doctors Amen and Krause authored one of the two reports
    commissioned by the defense (“the Amen/Krause report”).
    Their report included brain imaging results showing
    “extensive frontal lobe damage” causing “his judgment [to]
    be severely impaired and his insight also impaired.” The
    results of their neuropsychological testing similarly “revealed
    deficits that are consistent with Frontotemporal Dementia,”
    which “affects the part of the brain that regulates
    comportment, insight and reasoning.” Dr. Rudnick, the
    author of the final report, also concluded that Dreyer suffered
    from “impaired judgment, disinhibition and impulsivity that
    . . . rendered him vulnerable to acting rashly and without
    consideration of the consequences.” He stated that Dreyer’s
    history reflected a “textbook description of [frontotemporal
    dementia],” which “present[s] in the early phases with
    behavioral and personality changes, with cognitive deficits
    appearing later.” Rudnick reported that Dreyer’s “verbal
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    output was laced with inappropriate sexual references,
    profanity and facetiousness [and] [h]e exhibited impulsivity
    in his responses, disinhibition and expansiveness to the point
    of grandiosity.” Despite Dreyer’s propensity for falsehoods
    and exaggerations, the doctor stated that “any distortions are
    the result of his faulty judgment, insight and recall rather than
    intentional misrepresentation.” Rudnick concluded by noting
    the degenerative nature of the disease. He observed that
    frontotemporal dementia is both “irreversible and
    progressive,” and that Dreyer’s “long-term prognosis is quite
    dismal,” with an average life span of 3.4 years from the time
    of diagnosis and a diminishing ability to live independently in
    the interim.
    The evaluations of the four experts consulted were
    substantially similar, and the reports explicitly disagreed only
    in their conclusions about Dreyer’s competency. Martell’s
    report specifically opined as to whether Dreyer was
    incompetent when he entered his guilty plea. Martell
    concluded that he was competent at the time of his plea and
    had taken “full responsibility for having engaged in improper
    prescribing practices.” When he considered Dreyer’s mental
    state at the time of the offense, however, he acknowledged
    that Dreyer “engaged in the behaviors for which he has plead
    guilty while suffering from Dementia and an organic
    personality disorder that rendered him disinhibited, and
    impaired his judgment,” and that this fact “may mitigate or
    reduce his culpability . . . as his moral compass was
    effectively compromised by brain damage over which he had
    impaired control.” The Amen/Krause report came to a
    contrary conclusion as to Dreyer’s competency: it concluded
    that the dementia “caused him to engage in activities that he
    may not have clearly understood such as in the plea
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    agreement.” Rudnick’s report did not offer any explicit
    conclusions as to Dreyer’s competency, but stated, consistent
    with the other reports, that “his dementia prevented him from
    accurately critiquing or monitoring his own behavior and
    from foreseeing its consequences,” and that throughout the
    time that he engaged in the activities for which he was being
    prosecuted, Dreyer “was truly convinced that his actions did
    not constitute professional violations.”
    All three expert reports were submitted to the court prior
    to Dreyer’s sentencing hearing in December 2010. The
    presentence report recommended a sentence between 188 and
    235 months, and the government requested a sentence of 121
    months. Dreyer’s attorney argued for a sentence of probation
    due to Dreyer’s deteriorating health and the fact that his
    unlawful conduct was precipitated by the onset of a disease
    that substantially impaired his ability to make decisions and
    differentiate right from wrong. Explaining the effect of
    frontotemporal dementia, counsel stated that “[t]his disease
    takes people, and it doesn’t rob them of their intellect, it robs
    them of their moral compass.” He equated the proposed 121-
    month sentence to a death sentence for the then-73-year-old
    Dreyer, due to the progression of the disease and unfavorable
    prognosis.
    Dreyer did not speak on his own behalf at sentencing. His
    attorney explained his decision to direct Dreyer not to speak
    as follows:
    My client isn’t going to speak today because
    one of the characteristics of the disease is that
    I don’t know what he’s going to say. He
    could speak inappropriately. He could make
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    denials. He could accept responsibility, then
    not accept responsibility. That’s also a
    characteristic of this disease.
    Counsel went on to ask for mercy on Dreyer’s behalf, asking
    the court to “understand that Dr. Dreyer is partially with us,
    partially not with us, and that’s why he’s not speaking. I can’t
    even imagine what he would say to you, Your Honor, and I
    can’t even imagine what his perception of the truth is in 50
    percent of the cases.” After defense counsel presented his
    argument on behalf of Dreyer, the district court fulfilled its
    obligation to personally address the defendant. In response,
    Dreyer stated that he respected the judge and appreciated her
    comments.
    The court sentenced Dreyer to 120 months and made a
    recommendation to the Bureau of Prisons that Dreyer be
    housed at the federal medical center in Rochester, Minnesota.
    Dreyer appeals his sentence contending that the district court
    erred by failing sua sponte to order an evidentiary hearing to
    determine whether he was competent at the time of
    sentencing.
    DISCUSSION
    I.
    The district court has a statutory duty to “order . . .a
    [competency] hearing on its own motion, if there is
    reasonable cause to believe that the defendant may presently
    be suffering from a mental disease or defect rendering him
    mentally incompetent to the extent that he is unable to
    understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings
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    against him or to assist properly in his defense.” 
    18 U.S.C. § 4241
    (a). “On review, [the] inquiry is not whether the trial
    court could have found the defendant either competent or
    incompetent, nor whether [the reviewing court] would find
    the defendant incompetent . . . . Rather, the record is reviewed
    to see if the evidence of incompetence was such that a
    reasonable judge would be expected to experience a genuine
    doubt respecting the defendant’s competence.” United States
    v. Marks, 
    530 F.3d 799
    , 814 (9th Cir. 2008) (alterations in
    original) (internal citations and quotation marks omitted).
    Here, the district court committed error by failing to order a
    competency hearing sua sponte despite a record that raises a
    genuine doubt that the defendant was incapable of assisting
    properly at the sentencing proceeding.
    Alleged errors that are unobjected to in the district court
    are generally subject to plain error review. United States v.
    Olano, 
    507 U.S. 725
    , 731–32 (1993). We have explicitly
    applied the plain error standard in our review of the district
    court’s failure sua sponte to order a competency hearing.
    Marks, 
    530 F.3d at 814
    ; United States v. Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d 1199
    , 1250–51 (9th Cir. 2004). But see United States v.
    Mitchell, 
    502 F.3d 931
    , 986–97 (9th Cir. 2007) (not
    subjecting the trial court’s failure sua sponte to conduct a
    competency hearing to plain error review). “Relief for plain
    error is available if there has been (1) error; (2) that was plain;
    (3) that affected substantial rights; and (4) that seriously
    affected the fairness, integrity, or public reputation of the
    judicial proceedings.” United States v. Cannel, 
    517 F.3d 1172
    , 1176 (9th Cir. 2008). As a practical matter, a district
    court’s failure to conduct a competency hearing on its own
    motion will always be subject to plain error review. This is
    because a defense counsel who is attuned to his client’s
    20               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    mental condition and recognizes that the defendant’s
    competency is in question would not leave it up to the district
    court to order a competency hearing sua sponte, rather, he
    would move for such a hearing himself. If his motion was
    denied we would then evaluate the district court’s denial of
    the motion rather than its failure to order a hearing sua
    sponte. See, e.g., United States v. Duncan, 
    643 F.3d 1242
     (9th
    Cir. 2011). Therefore, the question currently before us,
    whether the district court’s failure to order a competency
    hearing sua sponte, will always be raised for the first time on
    appeal.
    If we find that “evidence of incompetence was such that
    a reasonable judge would be expected to experience a genuine
    doubt respecting the defendant’s competence,” Chavez v.
    United States, 
    656 F.2d 512
    , 516 (9th Cir. 1981), then the first
    two prongs of the Olano test are satisfied, leaving the
    questions of substantial rights and fairness. One of the
    foundational principles of our judicial system is the belief that
    an individual should neither be allowed to stand trial nor have
    his sentence carried out if he is incompetent. See, e.g.,
    Riggins v. Nevada, 
    504 U.S. 127
    , 139–140 (1992) (Kennedy,
    J., concurring in the judgment) (“Competence to stand trial is
    rudimentary, for upon it depends the main part of those rights
    deemed essential to a fair trial.”) (citing Drope v. Missouri,
    
    420 U.S. 162
    , 171-172 (1975)). Allowing a judicial
    proceeding to continue when there is genuine doubt as to the
    competence of the accused plainly implicates the substantial
    rights of the accused and seriously affects the fairness,
    integrity and public reputation of the judicial proceedings.
    Thus, while we must subject Dreyer’s claim to plain error
    review, the analysis is ultimately reducible to the question of
    whether “the evidence of incompetence was such that a
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    reasonable judge would be expected to experience a genuine
    doubt respecting the defendant’s competence.” Chavez,
    
    656 F.2d at 516
    . Where the answer is yes, the failure to order
    a competency hearing sua sponte is plain error.
    II.
    Here, we must determine whether the district court had
    before it sufficient evidence to create a bona fide doubt as to
    Dreyer’s competency. “Competence is defined as the ability
    to understand the proceedings and to assist counsel in
    preparing a defense.” Miles v. Stainer, 
    108 F.3d, 1109
    , 1112
    (9th Cir. 1997) (citing Dusky v. United States, 
    362 U.S. 402
    (1960) (per curiam)). “[T]he competency right does not end
    at a conviction,” but rather persists through sentencing.
    Duncan, 
    643 F.3d at 1248
    ; U.S. v. Ahrendt, 
    560 F.3d 69
    , 74
    (1st Cir. 2009) (“The obligation to determine competency to
    stand trial is continuing, and persists throughout a proceeding
    including through the sentencing phase.”); see also 18 U.S.C.
    4241(a) (noting that the inquiry into a defendant’s
    competence may take place “any time after the
    commencement of a prosecution . . . and prior to the
    sentencing of the defendant.”). The record raises a question
    as to the defendant’s competence if there is substantial
    evidence that, due to a mental disease or defect, the defendant
    is either “unable to understand the nature and consequences
    of the proceedings against him or to assist properly in his
    defense.” United States v. Friedman, 
    366 F.3d 975
    , 980 (9th
    Cir. 2004) (emphasis in original) (quoting 
    18 U.S.C. § 4241
    (d)) (holding that the district court properly found the
    defendant incompetent where he was able to understand the
    proceedings but not capable of assisting properly in his
    defense). Although the level of competency mandated by due
    22               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    process does not vary based on the specific stage of the
    criminal proceeding, Godinez v. Moran, 
    509 U.S. 389
    ,
    400–01 (1993), the defendant’s ability to participate or assist
    his counsel must be evaluated in light of the type of
    participation required.
    “Sentencing is a critical stage of the criminal process,”
    Boardman v. Estelle, 
    957 F.2d 1523
    , 1525 (9th Cir. 1992)
    (citing Mempha v. Rhay, 
    389 U.S. 128
    , 134 (1967)), and the
    defendant’s allocution, “is an essential element of a criminal
    defense.” Id. at 1526. Competence at sentencing therefore
    requires, among other things, that the defendant be able to
    assist in his own defense by participating in his “elementary
    right” of allocution. Id. at 1527 (quoting United States v.
    Behrens, 
    375 U.S. 162
    , 84 (1963)). Although a defendant is
    not compelled to speak on his own behalf at sentencing,
    courts have long recognized the importance of affording him
    such an opportunity. The creation of various procedural
    protections has not “lessen[ed] the need for the defendant,
    personally, to have the opportunity to present to the court his
    plea in mitigation. The most persuasive counsel may not be
    able to speak for a defendant as the defendant might, with
    halting eloquence, speak for himself.” Green v. United
    States, 
    365 U.S. 301
    , 304 (1961). At sentencing, “the test [of
    competency] is whether the defendant is able to understand
    the nature of the proceedings and participate intelligently to
    the extent participation is called for.” Chavez, 
    656 F.2d at 518
    (9th Cir. 1981). The ability to allocute, in short, is an
    essential element of this participation.
    At sentencing Dreyer refrained from allocuting. While the
    defendant has the right to make this choice, defense counsel
    explained the reason underlying Dreyer’s silence: his disease
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                   23
    prevented him from coherently speaking on his own behalf.
    Counsel expressed concern that Dreyer might contradict
    himself by accepting responsibility and then refusing to do so,
    or would speak to the court inappropriately. He also
    explicitly informed the court that Dreyer had difficulty
    perceiving the truth as a result of his dementia and was only
    “partially with us.” The decision not to allocute was therefore
    obviously viewed by the defense as necessitated by Dreyer’s
    medical condition.
    Although it is true that “defense counsel will often have
    the best-informed view of the defendant’s ability to
    participate in his defense,” Medina v. California, 
    505 U.S. 437
    , 450 (1992), the district court need not have relied merely
    on the defense counsel’s statements to determine whether
    Dreyer’s competence was in question. Counsel’s assessment
    of Dreyer was supported by all three medical evaluations
    presented to the court. Although the medical experts
    described Dreyer as generally cooperative and articulate, they
    also found his behavior to be inappropriate, his personality
    emotionally-blunted, and his speech laced with sexual
    references and profanity. He was prone to lies and
    exaggerations due to his faulty judgment, insight and recall.
    Despite Dreyer’s apparent proclivity for falsehood, the
    experts observed that these statements were not made in a
    deliberate attempt to misrepresent the truth. Dreyer lacked an
    awareness of social norms of comportment and exhibited poor
    social judgment and a penchant for engaging in provocative
    and antagonistic behavior had already resulted in his receiving
    a severe beating during his brief prison stay. The experts
    explicitly recognized that Dreyer had a “profound lack of
    social propriety,” and an inability to “filter himself
    effectively.” They additionally noted that he was prone to
    24               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    making inflammatory religious and racial statements that
    conflicted with his long-held beliefs, and that, if incarcerated,
    he would need protective custody “essentially to protect him
    from himself.” As a result of his frontotemporal dementia,
    Dreyer was not only incapable of making a reasoned plea for
    leniency, but was unable to even refrain from making
    comments that were contrary to his own beliefs and that
    placed him in physical danger. The uncontradicted medical
    evidence before the district court supported counsel’s
    representation that Dreyer’s failure to allocute was compelled
    by his ailment and his resultant inability to regulate his speech
    or behavior in a manner that could assist in his defense.
    Given the consistency between counsel’s statements and the
    supporting expert reports, the district court had substantial
    evidence before it that should have created a reasonable doubt
    in its mind as to Dreyer’s ability to assist in his own defense,
    and thus as to his competency.
    III.
    The cases in which this court has concluded that there was
    no basis for the trial court to doubt the defendant’s
    competency, including all those cited by the government,
    involve substantially less evidence to suggest incompetency
    than the case before us. For instance, in United States v.
    Mendez-Sanchez, 
    563 F.3d 935
    , 939–40 (9th Cir. 2009), there
    was no diagnosis of any mental disorder or defect. The
    defendant was uncooperative with his attorneys, but when
    asked explicitly by the judge whether the defendant might be
    incompetent, defense counsel reported that they did not
    believe that he was. 
    Id.
     at 941–42; 947–48. Instead, counsel
    told the court, the defendant’s difficulties were based solely
    on a refusal to accept facts which he did not like. 
    Id.
     In
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    Marks, 
    530 F.3d 799
     (9th Cir. 2008), the defendant was rude,
    asserted that the court lacked jurisdiction over him and was
    uncooperative with counsel. 
    530 F.3d at
    814–15. Again,
    however, there was no medical diagnosis to suggest that the
    defendant might be incompetent, and his counsel did not alert
    the court to any possible difficulties. In Davis v. Woodford,
    
    384 F.3d 628
     (9th Cir. 2004), the defendant refused to wear
    civilian clothes or sit at the counsel table. There was no
    medical evidence indicating any kind of ailment, nor did
    counsel assert that the defendant was incapable of assisting in
    his defense. 
    Id.
     at 645–46. On appeal the defendant alleged
    only that “[t]he trial court judge was in a position to gauge
    whether a competency hearing would be in order,” but this
    court determined that his unusual behavior alone was
    insufficient to create a genuine doubt as to his competency,
    and that his actions reflected a reasoned choice. 
    Id. at 646
    .
    In all of these cases, there was only comparatively minor
    inappropriate courtroom behavior. There was no evidence
    that the defendant would be unable to understand or
    participate in the proceedings. In contrast to Dreyer’s
    sentencing proceedings, there were no statements by counsel
    or medical diagnoses that would have produced a genuine
    doubt as to the defendant’s competency in the mind of a
    reasonable judge. In fact, in these cases when medical
    evidence was presented, or defense counsel made a statement
    to the court regarding the defendant’s competence, the
    evidence supported a finding of competency. Here, the
    opposite is true. The court had a clear diagnosis of
    frontotemporal dementia from multiple sources, including one
    selected by the government, and all of the expert reports noted
    the defendant’s inability to regulate his behavior and speech
    as a result of this illness. The court also had counsel’s
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    express statements that the defendant would not speak on his
    own behalf as a result of his medical condition. The cases
    cited by the government are therefore inapplicable.3
    When this court has considered a record containing expert
    diagnoses of a medical disorder bearing on the defendant’s
    mental state we have found this evidence sufficient to cause
    genuine doubt as to the defendant’s competency. See, e.g.,
    Deere v. Woodford, 
    339 F.3d 1084
    , 1086–87 (9th Cir. 2003);
    Odle v. Woodford, 
    238 F.3d 1084
    , 1088–89 (9th Cir. 2001);
    Morris v. United States, 
    414 F.2d 258
     (9th Cir. 1969) (per
    curiam). Even in the absence of expert evidence, we have
    found cause to grant a motion for a competency hearing when
    defense counsel reported an attempted suicide by the
    defendant the night before trial. United States v. Loyola-
    3
    A case relied on heavily in the dissent, United States v. White, 
    670 F.3d 1077
     (9th Cir. 2012), is also inapplicable and presents an entirely different
    issue. In White, the issue presented was whether the district court
    committed error by failing to order a second competency hearing sua
    sponte after the court had previously conducting a hearing on the matter
    and found the defendant to be competent to stand trial. The court in White
    recognized that, where, as here, a hearing has not previously been held, the
    proper standard of review “is comprehensive and not limited by either the
    abuse of discretion or clearly erroneous standard,” and error occurs when
    the reviewing court determines that the evidence before the trial court
    “raises a bona fide doubt as to whether the defendant has become
    incompetent.” White, 
    670 F.3d at 1082
     (internal citations and quotation
    marks omitted). W here, as in White, a competency hearing has already
    been conducted and in that hearing the defendant has been found
    competent, White holds that the standard of review is more deferential and
    error can be found only if the failure to order a second hearing sua sponte
    constitutes an abuse of discretion. 
    Id.
     In Dreyer’s case, there was no prior
    hearing as to his competency, and thus we must conduct, as White
    reaffirms, a “comprehensive [review] not limited by either the abuse of
    discretion or clearly erroneous standard.” 
    Id.
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                          27
    Dominguez, 
    125 F.3d 1315
     (9th Cir. 1997). District courts to
    which such evidence is presented are obligated to determine
    only whether doubt has been created, not whether the
    defendant is competent or incompetent. In such cases that
    question can ordinarily be resolved only after an evidentiary
    hearing.
    Although each case presents a unique set of facts, the case
    that involved the most comparable record before the district
    court is Duncan, 
    643 F.3d 1242
     (9th Cir. 2011).4 In Duncan,
    the record before the district judge included five competing
    expert reports: two from court-appointed experts that found
    “no evidence of psychotic behaviors or thought processes,” 
    id. at 1246
    , and three from defense experts that found that the
    defendant suffered from “severe psychosis,” 
    id. at 1249
    , and
    were accompanied by a brain scan showing “unusual brain
    structure consistent with behavioral deficits in the ability to
    make rational plans and modulate emotions.” 
    Id. at 1249
    .
    The record also included letters written by the defendant,
    some of which “appear[ed] rational” while the others included
    statements that were “unusual.” 
    Id. at 1250
    . Lastly, as
    evidenced by the motion for a competency hearing, counsel in
    Duncan also expressed a belief that the defendant was not
    competent. 
    Id. at 1245
    . On review this court concluded that
    the evidence presented to the district court created a
    “reasonable doubt about the Defendant’s competence, such
    4
    Although Duncan involved the district court’s decision not to hold a
    formal competency hearing despite defense counsel’s motion, on appeal
    the analysis is the same: “whether a reasonable judge, situated as was the
    trial judge who denied the motion, should have experienced doubt with
    respect to the defendant’s competence.” Duncan, 
    643 F.3d at 1247
    .
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    that § 4241(a) required a full competency hearing before the
    district court could reach a decision.” Id. at 1250.
    The trial court here, as in Duncan, was faced with a record
    that included diagnoses of a medical disorder affecting the
    defendant’s mental condition and behavior. Although
    Dreyer’s counsel did not move for a competency hearing, he
    explicitly informed the court that his client’s disease
    prevented him from participating in his defense to the extent
    that further participation was called for. As in Duncan, we
    must therefore conclude that the evidence on the record was
    sufficient to create a reasonable doubt as to Dreyer’s
    competence and thus compelled the district court to order a
    competency hearing sua sponte.
    The government primarily relies on Dreyer’s calm
    demeanor at sentencing to argue that the record was
    insufficient to create reasonable doubt as to his competence.
    Among the factors to consider when evaluating whether a
    court erred in failing to order a competency hearing sua
    sponte, are the “defendant’s irrational behavior, his demeanor
    at trial, and any prior medical opinion on competence,”
    Drope, 
    420 U.S. 162
    , 180 (1975), however, “[n]one of these
    factors is determinative,” Miles, 
    108 F.3d 1109
    , 1112 (9th
    Cir. 1997), and “even one of these factors standing alone may,
    in some circumstances, be sufficient.” Drope, 
    420 U.S. at 180
    . While the defendant’s courtroom behavior may provide
    insight into his mental condition, we have previously
    observed that a “judge may be lulled into believing that [the
    defendant] is competent by the fact that he does not disrupt
    the proceedings, yet this passivity may itself mask an
    incompetence to meaningfully participate in the process.”
    Odle, 238 F.3d at 1089. Here, according to the undisputed
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                      29
    facts in the record, counsel’s decision that Dreyer should not
    allocute was “a strategy for controlling his behavior,” id. at
    1089, n.6; it was necessitated by a mental ailment, and was
    not proof of Dreyer’s competence. Dreyer’s condition, as
    described in detail by the three expert reports, did not
    manifest itself in violent outbursts, but instead prevented him
    from expressing himself appropriately or in a manner that
    could assist in his defense. Given the expert opinions that
    supported defense counsel’s representation that Dreyer was
    unable to assist in his defense due to his medical condition,
    the record creates a genuine doubt as to Dreyer’s competency
    even in the absence of observable courtroom antics.
    IV.
    Given the substantial evidence of Dreyer’s lack of
    competency, we hold that the district court’s failure to order
    a competency hearing sua sponte constituted plain error. We
    vacate Dreyer’s sentence and remand for the district court to
    hold an evidentiary hearing.
    VACATED and REMANDED.
    CALLAHAN, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
    I respectfully dissent. I cannot agree that it was plain error
    for the district court not to sua sponte order a competency
    hearing after Joel Dreyer pleaded guilty and received the
    benefit of his plea agreement but before sentencing. Dreyer
    was represented by competent counsel and had been
    examined by a number of doctors. Although all agreed that
    30               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    he suffered from frontotemporal dementia (“FTD”), none
    opined that Dreyer was not competent to participate in his
    sentencing. Moreover, although Dreyer chose not to allocute,
    he was responsive when the district judge addressed him
    personally, stating that he respected the judge and appreciated
    her comments. Even if the trial judge might have issued a sua
    sponte order for further psychiatric and medical evaluations,
    failure to do so was not plain error.
    I do not question the majority’s genuine doubt regarding
    Dreyer’s competence. However, this does not allow it to
    substitute its opinion for what a reasonable judge would be
    expected to experience. Cf. Chavez v. United States, 
    656 F.2d 512
    , 515–16 (9th Cir. 1981) (overruled on other grounds).
    The rule reflects the fact that appellate judges viewing the
    cold record are not in as good a position to evaluate a
    defendant’s competence as the district court judge who has
    interacted with the defendant over the course of many
    hearings. The majority thus does exactly what we said we
    could not do in Chavez: it disguises its own doubts about
    Dreyer’s competence as what “a reasonable judge would be
    expected to experience.” See 
    id.
     The record does not show
    that a reasonable judge would have experienced a “genuine
    doubt respecting [Dreyer’s] competence.” See 
    id.
    I. Background
    Between May of 2004 and July of 2007, Dreyer conspired
    with his co-defendant to distribute oxycodone, an addictive
    Schedule II controlled substance, dispensing over 20,000 pills
    over the course of approximately three years. Additionally,
    Dreyer unlawfully distributed another 17,746 oxycodone pills
    and 78,923 hydrocodone pills independent of his co-
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    defendant. One of Dreyer’s patients was Jessica Tia Silva,
    who died of an overdose of Dreyer’s prescriptions to her.
    Another patient was 17-year-old Jeremy Brink, who Dreyer
    knew was a minor and without parental consent for treatment.
    Nevertheless Dreyer altered the patient’s age on prescriptions
    for Norco and Xanax. Dreyer prescribed these patients and
    many others lethal quantities of addictive drugs without
    conducting physical examinations of the patients or taking
    their medical histories and received $100-$200 for each
    prescription. On September 21, 2009, Dreyer pleaded guilty,
    pursuant to a plea agreement, to two counts: (1) conspiracy to
    possess with the intent to distribute oxycodone and to
    distribute oxycodone; and (2) unlawful distribution and
    dispensing of oxycodone.
    After Dreyer pleaded guilty, but before his sentencing
    hearing, he underwent several medical and psychological
    evaluations by four experts. Dr. Daniel G. Amen and Dr.
    Christine D. Krause prepared a June 1, 2010 report (the
    “Amen/Krause Report”) detailing their findings from their
    evaluations of Dreyer. Dr. Amen and Dr. Krause were
    retained by the defense. Dr. Amen performed a scan of
    Dreyer’s brain, and Dr. Krause (a neuroclinical psychologist)
    performed a forensic evaluation of Dreyer. The Amen/Krause
    Report concluded that Dreyer “manifests symptoms of early
    Frontotemporal Dementia which has caused him to engage in
    activities that he may not have clearly understood such as in
    the plea agreement. He has also exhibited poor judgment in
    several incidences over the past few years that were not
    typical of his behavior prior to his medical emergency.” The
    Amen/Krause Report also explained that patients suffering
    from FTD commonly have “executive function and reasoning
    deficits.”
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    On August 9–10, 2010, Dr. Daniel A. Martell (“Dr.
    Martell”), a forensic psychologist, also evaluated Dreyer and
    prepared a report (the “Martell Report”). The purpose of this
    evaluation was to determine whether any impairment: (1)
    affected Dreyer’s competence to plead guilty; (2) affected
    Dreyer’s mental state during the offenses; or (3) will affect
    Dreyer’s adjustment or put him at risk in prison. Dr. Martell
    agreed that Dreyer had FTD, as “characterized by the cluster
    of symptoms exhibited by Dreyer, including: behavioral
    disinhibition, frontal lobe cognitive dysfunction, memory
    impairment, loss of smell (anosmia), impaired word-finding
    ability (dysnomia), hypersexuality, loss of tact and social
    propriety, and lack of insight into his own impairments
    (anosagnosia).” Dr. Martell opined that “[t]his is not to say,
    however, that his condition caused him to be unaware of the
    nature and consequences of his behavior, or that what he was
    doing was wrong. Rather it may mitigate or reduce his
    culpability in the eyes of the court as his moral compass was
    effectively compromised by brain damage over which he had
    impaired control.” Significantly, despite his conclusions
    about Dreyer’s FTD, Dr. Martell also opined that Dreyer’s
    guilty plea was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary. Dr.
    Martell concluded that Dreyer was “indeed competent to
    plead guilty.”
    On November 20, 2010, Dreyer was evaluated by Dr. F.
    David Rudnick (“Dr. Rudnick”), a psychiatrist specializing in
    neurobehavior. Dr. Rudnick reviewed the other two medical
    reports and then conducted his own clinical tests of Dreyer.
    Dr. Rudnick’s report (the “Rudnick Report”) also concluded
    that Dreyer exhibited symptoms of FTD. Dr. Rudnick opined
    that Dreyer’s “dementia prevented him from accurately
    critiquing or monitoring his own behavior and from
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                    33
    foreseeing its consequences. He was truly convinced that his
    actions did not constitute professional violations.” However,
    Dr. Rudnick also stated that, with minor exceptions, Dreyer’s
    “cognitive skills were intact.”
    II. Sentencing Hearing
    On December 13, 2010, over fourteen months after Dreyer
    pleaded guilty, the district court conducted Dreyer’s
    sentencing hearing. During the sentencing hearing, the
    district court judge stated that she had read all of the medical
    reports and the defense’s memoranda about Dreyer’s medical
    condition. Dreyer did not ask for a competency hearing, but
    instead requested leniency in sentencing due to his medical
    condition. Nonetheless, the court explained that the evidence
    did not indicate that Dreyer was incompetent to be sentenced:
    There’s a great deal of medical evidence that’s
    been submitted to the Court about the
    defendant’s medical condition, reports of
    which, not all of which is really substantiated.
    The self-reporting by the defendant is not
    always substantiated by the medical records.
    That is, the self-reported flat-lining and
    cardiac arrest . . . .
    [A]t the time of the arrest, which is, of course,
    very close in time to the conduct in question,
    the defendant spoke for hours to the agents.
    He was lucid, more than lucid, very articulate,
    cunning; and he lied to the detectives, the
    agents, over and over. He wasn’t forgetful.
    So he may well have deteriorated since that
    34              UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    time, and there’s been medical evidence
    submitted to the Court about his current
    condition, but that is not necessarily a reason
    for him not to be sentenced now. And a
    reasonable sentence would include a period of
    incarceration.
    The court further explained that:
    The defense relied heavily on the statements
    contained in the medical reports of Dr. Martell
    and Dr. Rudnick that he needs further
    treatment. I agree with that, and I believe he
    should be placed in [a Federal Medical
    Center], but that does not mean he should not
    receive a prison term.
    The court then sentenced Dreyer to 120 months
    imprisonment—the low end of the guidelines range—and
    three years of supervised release.
    III. Standard of Review
    “On review, [the] inquiry is not whether the trial court
    could have found the defendant either competent or
    incompetent, nor whether [the Court of Appeals] would find
    the defendant incompetent if [it] were deciding the matter de
    novo. Rather, [the Court of Appeals] reviews the record to
    see if the evidence of incompetence was such that a
    reasonable judge would be expected to experience a genuine
    doubt respecting the defendant’s competence.” See Chavez,
    
    656 F.2d at
    515–16 (overruled on other grounds). A
    defendant is competent to stand trial and be sentenced if he
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                      35
    has both a “sufficient present ability to consult with his
    lawyer with a reasonable degree of rational understanding and
    a rational as well as factual understanding of the proceedings
    against him.” United States v. Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d 1199
    ,
    1251 (9th Cir. 2004). A district court’s failure to sua sponte
    order a competency evaluation is only error if the evidence of
    incompetence is such that a reasonable judge would have a
    genuine doubt about the defendant’s ability to rationally
    communicate with his attorney and understand the
    proceedings. United States v. Marks, 
    530 F.3d 799
    , 814 (9th
    Cir. 2008). The factors this Court considers to determine
    whether there was sufficient evidence of incompetence are
    “the defendant’s irrational behavior, his demeanor in court,
    and any prior medical opinions on his competence.” Id.; see
    also United States v. White, 
    670 F.3d 1077
    , 1082 (9th Cir.
    2012) (taking into consideration the trial judge’s observation
    of the defendant over the course of the proceedings).
    Importantly, “[w]here, as here, the issue is raised for the
    first time on appeal, we review a district court’s decision not
    to sua sponte order a competency hearing for plain error.”
    See Marks, 
    530 F.3d at
    814 (citing Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d at
    1250–51). “Plain error is ‘(1) error, (2) that is plain, and (3)
    that affect[s] substantial rights.’” 
    Id.
     (alterations in original)
    (quoting United States v. Thornton, 
    511 F.3d 1221
    , 1225 n.2
    (9th Cir. 2008)). “If these conditions are met, an appellate
    court may exercise its discretion to correct the error ‘only if
    (4) the error seriously affect[s] the fairness, integrity, or
    public reputation of judicial proceedings.’” Thornton,
    
    511 F.3d at
    1225 n.2 (quoting Johnson v. United States,
    
    520 U.S. 461
    , 467 (1997)).
    36               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    IV. Analysis
    The district court did not err in failing to sua sponte order
    that Dreyer be evaluated for competency prior to imposing the
    sentence. A critical feature of this case, and one that
    distinguishes it from the cases relied upon by the majority, is
    that Dreyer is only claiming that he was not competent to be
    sentenced. He does not allege that he was incompetent to be
    tried or to plead guilty. Moreover, he admits that he “did not
    manifest any observable signs of incompetency during the
    sentencing hearing.” Rather, he argues for the first time on
    appeal that medical reports he sought—after he entered a plea
    agreement but before he was sentenced—required that the
    district court sua sponte order a competency hearing, even
    though he never requested a competency hearing. A fair
    review of the record shows that there was no plain error and
    that even if there were error, it did not “seriously affect the
    fairness, integrity, or public reputation of judicial
    proceedings.” Cf. Thornton, 
    511 F.3d at
    1225 n.2.
    A. Dreyer’s Medical          Evaluations      Were      Not
    Conclusive.
    Dreyer’s medical evaluations indicate that while he
    suffers from FTD and has some related mental deficiencies,
    these deficiencies do not rise to the level of the legal standard
    of incompetence. One of the doctors expressly concluded that
    Dreyer was competent and another concluded that his
    “cognitive skills were intact.” Dreyer does not attempt to
    demonstrate that his FTD prevented him from rationally
    conferring with his counsel or understanding the proceedings,
    which is the definition of legal incompetence. He does not
    explain how his diagnosis relates to this standard of
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                      37
    incompetence, but instead makes the misleading inference
    that impaired judgment and degenerative brain damage is
    equivalent to legal incompetence. In doing so, he conflates
    medical standards with the applicable legal standard of
    incompetence. Dreyer’s medical records and behavior do not
    suggest that he had difficulty rationally conferring with his
    counsel and rationally understanding the proceedings.
    Instead, the record shows that he interacted with his attorneys
    and the court thoughtfully and even drafted a document titled
    “Brain Damage” during the presentence investigation, writing
    “[t]his is sad that I have a brain lesion of my frontal lobe but
    it could very well be the thing that keeps me out of federal
    prison.” It appears that Dreyer rationally understood the
    nature of the proceedings against him and his attorney’s
    strategy for seeking a reduced sentence.
    Case law indicates that it is not sufficient to point out that
    a defendant has a medical ailment causing decreased brain
    function. Rather, the evidence must also reasonably indicate
    that the ailment prevented the defendant from rationally
    interacting with his attorney and understanding the sentencing
    proceedings. See Marks, 
    530 F.3d at 814
    ; Fernandez,
    
    388 F.3d at 1251
    . There is no such evidence of this kind of
    causal relationship here. Dr. Martell expressly reported that
    his findings regarding Dreyer’s FTD did not indicate that “his
    condition caused him to be unaware of the nature and
    consequences of his behavior, or that what he was doing was
    wrong.” Dr. Martell further opined that Dreyer’s guilty plea
    was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary. Another doctor, Dr.
    Rudnick, reported that with minor exceptions, Dreyer still has
    functional cognitive skills. The district court had before it
    three medical examinations by four medical doctors, none of
    which indicated that Dreyer was legally incompetent.
    38               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    B. Dreyer Did Not Exhibit Signs of Incompetence in
    Court.
    The district court, having observed Dreyer’s conduct over
    the course of multiple hearings, reasonably thought he was
    competent. Dreyer himself admits that he “did not manifest
    any observable signs of incompetency during the sentencing
    hearing.” There is nothing in the record indicating that
    Dreyer exhibited signs of incompetency or unusual behavior
    in court. Moreover, Dreyer’s attorney who had extensive off-
    the-record interactions with Dreyer never indicated that he
    was incompetent. This is significant because the district court
    judge was entitled to expect that if there was a serious
    question as to Dreyer’s competence, his attorney would raise
    the issue. Attorneys are the primary gatekeepers and have an
    affirmative duty to investigate their client’s mental state “if
    there is evidence to suggest that the defendant is impaired.”
    See Douglas v. Woodford, 
    316 F.3d 1079
    , 1085 (9th Cir.
    2003).
    The majority makes much of the fact that Dreyer chose
    not to allocute. See Maj. Op. at 22–24. Dreyer’s attorney
    stated that he would not allocute because he might contradict
    himself or “speak inappropriately,” and the majority suggests
    that this should have signaled Dreyer’s incompetence to the
    district court judge. However, the record supports other
    possible explanations for Dreyer’s silence. At the sentencing
    hearing, the judge noted that Dreyer had lied to the detectives
    “over and over.” Accordingly, Dreyer may have declined to
    speak to avoid having to explain his prior falsehoods and
    avoid the risk of uttering additional falsehoods.
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                    39
    In any case, there is no case law indicating that a decision
    not to allocute necessarily means that a defendant is
    incompetent to participate in his own sentencing hearing. A
    defendant may decline allocution for strategic reasons as well
    as for reasons related to a disability, mental health issues, or
    a host of behavioral concerns that do not rise to the level of
    incompetence. Since many criminal defendants do not enjoy
    perfect mental health or behave within social norms, the
    majority cannot mean that every time a defendant represented
    by counsel has a history of mental health and/or behavioral
    issues and chooses not to allocute, a court has a sua sponte
    duty to order a competency hearing. A decision not to
    allocute may be a factor in evaluating whether the trial court
    should have “experienced a genuine doubt respecting the
    defendant’s competence,” but without clearer evidence of
    incompetency in the medical records or unusual behavior in
    court, it is not enough. Cf. Chavez, 
    656 F.2d at
    515–16.
    C. The Majority Relies On Factually Distinguishable
    Cases.
    The cases cited by the majority do not support granting
    relief because: (1) they concern claims of incompetence to
    stand trial—not incompetence to be sentenced; (2) most
    concern pro se defendants—not defendants represented by
    counsel; and (3) all involved substantial histories of psychosis
    and/or severe brain damage—considerably more than is
    present in this case. See, e.g., Pate v. Robinson, 
    383 U.S. 375
    , 385–86 (1966) (defendant had a brick dropped on his
    head, walked around in a daze, and defendant’s mother stated
    that he had “lost his mind”); Torres v. Prunty, 
    223 F.3d 1103
    ,
    1104–06 (9th Cir. 2000) (defendant was diagnosed with a
    severe delusional disorder, had extensive brain damage from
    40               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    head trauma, and had uncontrollable outbursts in court); Odle
    v. Woodford, 
    238 F.3d 1088
    –90 (9th Cir. 2001) (defendant
    suffered from hallucinations, was committed to a psychiatric
    ward at least four times, and had a temporal lobectomy
    removing a 3x3x4 inch piece of his brain).
    In asserting that his medical evaluations evidence his
    incompetence, Dreyer relies extensively on Odle. The facts
    in Odle were very different. Odle claimed he was
    incompetent to stand trial because: (1) he had a lengthy
    medical history demonstrating severe mental health issues; (2)
    there was witness testimony indicating severe mental
    impairment, hallucinations, and multiple commitments to a
    psychiatric ward; and (3) he was “missing a piece of his brain
    the size of a grapefruit.” 
    Id.
     at 1088–90. Consequently, we
    held that there was substantial evidence of incompetence and
    the trial court should have ordered a competency evaluation
    sua sponte. 
    Id.
     The Court reasoned that “[w]here a petitioner
    has suffered massive trauma to his brain and subsequently
    exhibits psychotic behavior, some of it while awaiting trial, an
    inquiry into whether he possesses the mental acuity to
    participate in the proceedings is the reasonable and
    appropriate course of action.” Id. at 1089.
    Unfortunately, Dreyer does have brain damage, but that is
    where the similarities between his case and the Odle case end.
    Likewise, the other cases that Dreyer relies on are
    distinguishable. In United States v. Morris, 
    414 F.2d 258
    ,
    258–59 (9th Cir. 1969), Morris challenged his conviction and
    sentence based on evidence that he had a history of severe
    mental illness and multiple documented periods of psychosis.
    The medical record in Dreyer’s case does not contain the
    indicia of incompetence as present in Odle and Morris. On
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                  41
    the contrary, Dr. Martell opined that Dreyer was competent to
    plead guilty, and Dr. Rudnick found that Dreyer’s cognitive
    skills were intact.
    Moreover, the majority’s seminal case, United States v.
    Duncan, 
    643 F.3d 1242
     (9th Cir. 2011), does not support its
    opinion for several reasons. First, Duncan involved the
    defendant’s competence to represent himself during the
    penalty phase hearing and to waive his own right to appeal.
    Duncan, 
    643 F.3d at
    1248–49. Indeed, defense counsel had
    moved for a competency hearing and the trial court denied the
    motion and allowed Duncan to proceed without counsel. 
    Id.
    at 1242–48. We accordingly first held that standby counsel
    could appeal (against Duncan’s wishes), and then we
    determined that Duncan was not competent to waive both his
    right to counsel and his right to appeal. 
    Id.
     at 1244–49.
    Second, in Duncan, there was considerably more evidence of
    incompetence than is present in Dreyer’s case. In Duncan:
    Standby counsel produced reports from three
    experts, all well established and highly
    regarded in the field of neuropsychiatry, who
    had examined Defendant personally and had
    found him to suffer from—in the words of one
    of the experts—“delusional beliefs, paranoia,
    grandiosity, and psychotic breaks with
    reality.” All three experts formed the same
    opinion that—in the words of another of the
    experts—Defendant’s “mental diseases and
    42               UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    defects render him incapable of rationally
    understanding and participating in the
    proceedings, and therefore incompetent.”
    
    Id. at 1249
    .
    In contrast to the facts in Duncan, none of the doctors
    who examined Dreyer intimated that he was “incapable of
    rationally understanding and participating” in the sentencing
    proceedings. Dr. Martell opined that Dreyer’s guilty plea was
    knowing, intelligent, and voluntary. Another doctor, Dr.
    Rudnick, reported that with minor exceptions, Dreyer’s
    “cognitive skills were intact.” Dr. Amen and Dr. Krause
    concluded that Dreyer “manifests symptoms of early
    Frontotemporal Dementia [“FTD”] which has caused him to
    engage in activities that he may not have clearly understood”
    and that Dreyer “exhibited poor judgment in several
    incidences.” However, that report did not make any express
    finding regarding Dreyer’s competence as three experts did in
    the Duncan case. Duncan is thus distinguishable on its facts,
    its procedural posture, and its standard of review.
    D. A Finding of Plain Error is Inconsistent with Our
    Prior Cases.
    When the record indicates that the defendant has a
    medical or mental health condition that may affect the brain
    but does not interfere with the defendant’s ability to rationally
    consult with his attorney and understand the proceedings, this
    Court has not found sufficient evidence of incompetence.
    See, e.g., White, 
    670 F.3d at
    1081–85 (defendant’s angry
    outbursts in court and report indicating that White may have
    suffered from delusions was not substantial evidence of
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                    43
    incompetence); Davis v. Woodford, 
    384 F.3d 628
    , 646–47
    (9th Cir. 2004) (defendant’s depression and irrational conduct
    during trial was not substantial evidence of incompetence);
    United States v. Mendez-Sanchez, 
    563 F.3d 935
    , 939–40 (9th
    Cir. 2009) (defendant’s irrational behavior and difficulties
    communicating with his lawyer was not substantial evidence
    of incompetence).
    Most recently in White, we found that the district court did
    not err in failing to hold a sua sponte competency hearing in
    a case where the defendant lashed out in the courtroom,
    shouting obscenities and threats, spitting, and generally
    disrupting the proceedings. White, 
    670 F.3d at 1081
    . White’s
    behavior was so uncontrollable that “[d]uring the twenty-five
    days of trial, White was able to remain in court without
    incident on only four days. On the other days, he either had
    to be removed or did not appear in the courtroom.” 
    Id.
     At
    some point during the trial, the court also received a report
    that White may have suffered from delusions. 
    Id. at 1084
    .
    However, while recognizing that “[t]hese alleged delusions,
    in connection with White’s repeated inappropriate behavior,
    may suggest that White had some kind of mental problem—or
    they may not,” we concluded that the district court had not
    erred in failing to hold a sua sponte competency hearing
    because “[t]he trial judge had significant evidence suggesting
    that White knew that he was on trial for serious crimes and
    that a potential consequence could be life imprisonment.” 
    Id.
    44                  UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    Dreyer is not entitled to any relief under White’s analysis.1
    In fact, there is even less evidence of incompetence here than
    in White. There were no outbursts and Dreyer was able to
    acknowledge his rights and ask questions during the
    sentencing hearing. Dreyer was also able to participate
    respectfully and appropriately. 
    Id.
     Additionally, the doctors’
    reports did not undermine the district court’s
    determination—based on its experience with Dreyer and his
    demeanor—that Dreyer was competent to be sentenced.
    Dreyer is suffering from the early stages of FTD, and while
    the medical record indicates that he may have impaired
    judgment and lowered inhibitions, there is no indication in
    any of the three medical reports that he did not understand the
    proceedings against him and could not adequately participate
    in his own defense. See Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d at 1251
    .
    1
    The majority cites White for the proposition that “we must conduct, as
    White reaffirms, a ‘comprehensive [review] not limited by either the abuse
    of discretion or clearly erroneous standard.’” Maj. Op. at 26, n.3. Unlike
    the situation in White, where W hite’s competence was repeatedly
    questioned in the trial court and W hite’s multiple outbursts interrupted the
    trial, here Dreyer’s competence to be sentenced is raised for the first time
    on appeal. Thus, White is not contrary to our decisions providing that
    where “the issue is raised for the first time on appeal, we review a district
    court’s decision not to sua sponte order a competency hearing for plain
    error.” See Marks, 
    530 F.3d at
    814 (citing Fernandez, 
    388 F.3d at
    1250–51). Moreover, that White involved a defendant who had already
    had one competency hearing is a distinction without a difference since
    competency is an ongoing question and should be evaluated at every stage
    of the proceedings. W hat is relevant in White is its factual analysis of the
    trial judge’s observations of the defendant’s behavior in the courtroom in
    combination with the reports about the defendant’s mental health. White,
    
    670 F.3d at
    1081–84. Here, Dreyer’s reasonable behavior in the court was
    consistent with the medical reports indicating that he was competent to be
    sentenced.
    UNITED STATES V . DREYER                      45
    E. Any Error Did Not Affect the Fairness, Integrity,
    or Public Reputation of the Judicial System.
    Even if the district court erred in proceeding to sentence
    Dreyer (which it did not), under Marks, Dreyer would only be
    entitled to relief if the error “seriously affect[s] the fairness,
    integrity, or public reputation of judicial proceedings.” See
    Marks, 
    530 F.3d at 814
     (quoting Thornton, 
    511 F.3d at
    1225
    n.2). Dreyer fails to demonstrate that there is any error rising
    to this level. Here, Dreyer was represented by counsel, who
    having obtained medical evaluations of Dreyer after he
    pleaded guilty, did not alert the court that Dreyer was
    incompetent to be sentenced. Cf. Douglas, 
    316 F.3d at 1085
    (finding that attorneys have a duty to request a competency
    hearing “if there is evidence to suggest that the defendant is
    impaired”). Therefore, Dreyer’s attorney’s failure to do so
    was a strategic choice based on his belief in his client’s
    competence. Dreyer’s attorney only referenced these medical
    reports to seek leniency in sentencing. In this context, the
    fairness, integrity, and public reputation of the judicial
    proceedings would not be blemished by the Court’s denial of
    relief based on an issue raised by counsel for the first time on
    appeal.
    V. Conclusion
    Because the district court reasonably concluded that
    Dreyer was competent to be sentenced, I dissent from the
    majority’s opinion. First, although Dreyer’s medical
    evaluations indicate that he suffers from FTD and has some
    related mental deficiencies, none of the reports indicate that
    these deficiencies interfered with his ability to consult with
    his lawyer or to understand the proceedings against him.
    46                 UNITED STATES V . DREYER
    Second, although Dreyer chose not to allocute, neither the
    records nor the district court’s observations of Dreyer’s
    behavior in the courtroom indicate that he was incompetent to
    be sentenced. Third, none of the cases cited by the majority
    support granting relief to a represented defendant who
    behaves normally in court and has no compelling evidence of
    incompetence. Fourth, granting Dreyer relief is inconsistent
    with out recent opinion in White, directing deference to the
    trial judge’s judgment. Fifth, even if the district court did err,
    the error does not seriously affect the fairness, integrity, or
    reputation of the judicial proceedings. In sum, the majority
    improperly substitutes its evaluation of Dreyer, based on a
    cold and inconclusive record, for the trial judge’s
    determination that was based not only on the medical record
    but on Dreyer’s conduct in court. Because the district court
    did not err in sentencing Dreyer without sua sponte ordering
    a competency hearing, I would affirm.2
    2
    Our differing opinions as to the need to hold a competency hearing
    should in no way affect the district court’s determination of Dryer’s
    competency following the mandated competency hearing.