Olakunle Oshodi v. Eric H. Holder Jr. ( 2013 )


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  •                 FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    OLAKUNLE OSHODI, AKA Bode                No. 08-71478
    Okeowo, AKA Olakunle Akintola
    Oshodi, AKA Olakunle Akintola             Agency No.
    Akinbayo Oshodi, AKA Isaac Oliver        A023-484-662
    Alger, AKA Curtis Evans, AKA
    Bode Olacune Okeowo, AKA Isaac
    Okeowo,                                   OPINION
    Petitioner,
    v.
    ERIC H. HOLDER, JR., Attorney
    General,
    Respondent.
    On Petition for Review of an Order of the
    Board of Immigration Appeals
    Argued and Submitted En Banc
    December 11, 2012—Pasadena, California
    Filed August 27, 2013
    Before: Alex Kozinski, Chief Judge, Stephen Reinhardt,
    Kim McLane Wardlaw, William A. Fletcher, Ronald M.
    Gould, Richard A. Paez, Johnnie B. Rawlinson, Jay S.
    Bybee, Milan D. Smith, Jr., Mary H. Murguia, and
    Morgan Christen, Circuit Judges.
    2                       OSHODI V. HOLDER
    Opinion by Judge Paez;
    Dissent by Chief Judge Kozinski
    SUMMARY*
    Immigration
    The en banc court granted a petition for review of the
    denial of withholding of removal and protection under the
    Convention Against Torture in a case in which the petitioner
    asserted that the immigration judge violated his right to due
    process by limiting his testimony at his merits hearing and
    then denying relief on adverse credibility grounds.
    The en banc court held that applicants for asylum and
    withholding of removal have a due process right to testify
    fully as to the merits of their application. The en banc court
    explained that the IJ’s refusal to hear petitioner’s full
    testimony with respect to the abuses he suffered in Nigeria
    was particularly troublesome because the denial of relief
    rested solely on an adverse credibility finding, and the
    limitation of testimony hampered the IJ’s ability to judge the
    totality of the circumstances, including petitioner’s demeanor,
    candor or responsiveness, and the consistency between
    petitioner’s oral testimony with his written declaration.
    The en banc court held that the IJ’s actions caused
    petitioner prejudice because the outcome turned entirely upon
    *
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has
    been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    petitioner’s credibility. The en banc court remanded for a
    new hearing before an immigration judge.
    Dissenting, Chief Judge Kozinski, joined by Judges
    Rawlinson and Bybee, wrote that the majority’s ruling was
    wholly unnecessary because the IJ did not preclude petitioner
    from testifying, and even assuming the IJ limited the
    testimony, there is no due process right to give live testimony
    at every administrative hearing where important property or
    liberty interests are at stake. Chief Judge Kozinski also wrote
    that petitioner in this case failed to demonstrate that the IJ’s
    actions caused him prejudice.
    COUNSEL
    Marc Van Der Hout (argued) and Lisa Weissman-Ward, Van
    Der Hout, Brigagliano & Nightingale, LLP, San Francisco,
    California, for Petitioner.
    John W. Blakeley (argued), Donald E. Keener, and Stuart F.
    Delery, United States Department of Justice, Civil Division,
    Washington, D.C., for Respondent.
    Gwendolyn M. Ostrosky and Lawrence A. Cox, Arnold &
    Porter LLP, Los Angeles, California, for Amici Curiae
    Lawyer’s Committee for Civil Rights, and Center for Gender
    and Refugee Studies.
    Julian L. Andre and Matthew J. Smith, McDermott Will &
    Emery LLP, Los Angeles, California, for Amici Curiae
    National Immigrant Justice Center and American
    Immigration Lawyers Association.
    4                      OSHODI V. HOLDER
    OPINION
    PAEZ, Circuit Judge:
    Olakunle Oshodi petitions for review of a decision of the
    Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”) affirming the
    Immigration Judge’s (“IJ”) decision finding him not credible
    and denying his application for withholding of removal and
    protection under the Convention Against Torture (“CAT”).1
    Oshodi argues, inter alia, that the IJ violated his due process
    rights by denying him the opportunity to testify about the
    events of his past persecution in Nigeria while also finding
    him not credible and failing to give him notice before relying
    on lack of corroboration in the adverse credibility decision.
    He also argues that the IJ’s credibility analysis violated the
    REAL ID Act and was not supported by substantial evidence.
    A three-judge panel of this court rejected Oshodi’s due
    process arguments and, reaching the merits of the IJ’s
    credibility determination, concluded that it complied with the
    REAL ID Act and was supported by substantial evidence.
    We granted rehearing en banc.
    We hold that the IJ violated Oshodi’s due process rights
    at his removal hearing by cutting off his testimony on the
    events of his alleged past persecution in Nigeria that are the
    foundation of Oshodi’s withholding of removal and CAT
    claims. The IJ’s refusal to admit Oshodi’s testimony is
    particularly troublesome since Oshodi was denied relief
    solely on the basis of the IJ’s adverse credibility finding. It
    is well established that live testimony is critical to credibility
    1
    Oshodi does not challenge the denial of his asylum application as
    untimely.
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    determinations. Thus, the IJ’s restrictions on Oshodi’s
    testimony precluded the IJ from conducting a proper “totality
    of the circumstances” credibility analysis. Because we
    conclude that Oshodi did not receive a full and fair hearing as
    guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment, we grant the petition
    and remand for a new hearing. We therefore do not reach
    Oshodi’s other arguments.
    BACKGROUND
    Olakunle Oshodi, a Nigerian national, has resided in the
    United States since 1981. He is married to a United States
    citizen, and has a United States citizen daughter.2 He
    originally entered the United States on a student visa in 1978.
    In 1981, after his visa expired, Oshodi was removed to
    Nigeria. He remained in Nigeria for two months and while
    there he claims he was detained, beaten, and tortured by the
    Nigerian authorities on at least two occasions on account of
    his political activities.
    In a declaration attached to his asylum application,
    Oshodi stated that he was exposed to Nigerian politics, and
    related persecution, at an early age through his politically
    active mother. According to his declaration, on one occasion
    his mother was badly burned by molotov cocktails thrown at
    her by government agents. Soon after, she was killed by
    officers of General Gowon, the head of state from 1966 to
    2
    Oshodi is ineligible for adjustment of status through these relationships
    because an adjustment petition was not filed until 2005 and Oshodi
    entered the United States without inspection. INA § 245(I), 
    8 U.S.C. § 1255
    (I).
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    1975.3 As a teenager, he joined the National Association of
    Nigerian Students (“NANS”), a political group initially
    formed to oppose General Obasanjo, leader of the military
    regime in power at the time and later president of Nigeria
    from 1999 to 2007.4
    But it was not until his return to Nigeria in 1981 that
    Oshodi experienced direct persecution by the government.
    As Oshodi recounted in his declaration, he reentered Nigerian
    politics upon his return by joining the Unity Party of Nigeria,
    a political party affiliated with NANS. At his first rally,
    police officers forcefully disbanded the peaceful protest with
    tear gas and swagger canes. Although Oshodi escaped, many
    of his colleagues were detained and tortured. In the following
    weeks, however, Oshodi experienced two incidents of severe
    persecution at the hands of Nigerian officials.
    On February 8, 1981, Oshodi and his colleague Doyin
    Odunuga were stopped at a police checkpoint. When the
    police officers saw their political propaganda, the police
    immediately ordered them out of the car, at which point
    Odunuga sped away. The officers shot at the car, hit
    Odunuga, and the car crashed. The officers pulled Oshodi
    and Odunuga out of the car and beat them. Odunuga was
    eventually sent to the hospital, where he died from his
    injuries eight days later. Meanwhile, Oshodi was detained in
    jail and interrogated. According to Oshodi’s declaration, the
    officers “tortur[ed him] with different techniques,” beat him
    3
    Oshodi offered his mother’s death certificate as corroborating evidence
    of this claim but the IJ refused to admit it as not properly authenticated.
    4
    At the time of Oshodi’s hearing, General Obasanjo was campaigning
    for a third term as President.
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    unconscious with swagger canes, and deprived him of food
    for two days. Ultimately, his uncle paid a bribe of $2,000 to
    obtain his release but Oshodi was assigned to weekly
    monitoring, the violation of which would trigger an “open
    warrant” for his arrest. Because of his continued political
    activity, Oshodi violated the monitoring requirement.
    The following week, after driving a fellow party member
    to the airport, Oshodi was pulled over and detained by five
    officers. He was handcuffed, blindfolded, and driven to an
    unknown location. The officers shot him in the foot, burnt
    him with cigarettes, shocked him with electricity, and beat
    him with their pistols. They stripped him naked and doused
    him with gasoline, threatening to burn him alive. They
    sodomized him with swagger canes and dirty bottles. After
    they finished, the officers left him on the side of the road,
    where passers-by discovered him and took him to the
    hospital. At that point, Oshodi decided he could no longer
    safely remain in Nigeria and fled to the United States.5
    In light of these events in Nigeria, Oshodi sought asylum,
    withholding of removal, and CAT relief; however, at his
    removal hearing, Oshodi was precluded from testifying about
    these incidents of persecution and torture. After Oshodi
    began to discuss the first political rally he attended, a
    precursor to the two events of severe persecution and torture
    5
    In addition to his declaration, Oshodi offered into evidence police
    reports regarding both events of persecution and medical records from
    Nigeria confirming that he suffered a gunshot wound and other injuries
    after the second event. The IJ refused to admit these documents as not
    properly authenticated. A forensic medical report prepared in the United
    States and a newspaper article directly referring to Oshodi’s persecution
    at the airport were entered into evidence but were not addressed by the
    BIA in its decision.
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    in his declaration, the IJ cut off the direct examination by his
    attorney. The IJ directed Oshodi to limit his testimony to
    events not discussed in his asylum application, apparently on
    the notion that the declaration was sufficient for him to judge
    the veracity of the events as described therein:
    I’ll tell you what. I’ve read the statements of
    the respondent, read his application. I’ve
    gone over the materials. I’m not looking for
    everything to simply be repeated. I mean I
    understand that there needs to be testimony
    concerning [the] application, but if you have
    something to add to what was there, fine;
    otherwise, I don’t need it line by line, okay?
    Oshodi’s attorney followed the IJ’s directive.6 As a result,
    6
    We respectfully disagree with the dissent’s characterization of the IJ’s
    statement as a “tame exhortation,” “encourag[ing]” Oshodi’s lawyer to
    “[m]ove it along, counselor.” Dissent at 31, 32, 33. The dissent argues
    that the phrase “I don’t need it line by line, okay?” somehow makes it
    clear that the IJ intended to allow some repetitive testimony. Dissent at
    33. Indeed, the dissent goes on to state that “[n]othing the IJ said
    precluded Oshodi from giving a vivid oral account of the incidents of
    persecution he allegedly suffered.” Dissent at 33. We disagree. To the
    contrary, it was only when Oshodi began to give a “vivid oral account” of
    his persecution that the IJ intervened in the presentation of Oshodi’s
    testimony.
    The IJ admonished Oshodi and his lawyer that “if you have
    something to add to what was there, fine; otherwise I don’t need it line by
    line, okay?” We read this statement as instructing Oshodi’s lawyer not to
    elicit testimony about matters already covered in the application.
    Oshodi’s lawyer clearly understood the directive in this manner as well.
    Before the IJ’s directive, Oshodi’s lawyer was asking Oshodi a series of
    chronological questions about Oshodi’s persecution in Nigeria. After the
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    Oshodi did not testify about the key events of persecution and
    torture that form the foundation of his claims for withholding
    of removal and CAT relief.
    The remainder of Oshodi’s direct testimony was devoted
    mostly to clarifying a point from the expert’s testimony, that
    it was his membership in the Unity Party of Nigeria, not
    NANS, that led to his persecution in 1981. At one point,
    Oshodi’s attorney again attempted to question him about his
    encounters with the Nigerian police. As Oshodi began to
    answer, the IJ interjected, “Counsel, do you have a specific
    question for the respondent to answer because right now I
    don’t know what he’s answering.”7 With that admonishment,
    Oshodi’s counsel wrapped up his direct examination by
    asking Oshodi only if he felt he would be safe if he returned
    to Nigeria or if he could travel within Nigeria to escape the
    persecution and torture that he feared. Without asking
    Oshodi any direct questions about his encounters with the
    Nigerian authorities, Oshodi’s counsel ended his
    examination: “Nothing further, Your Honor. We submit on
    the basis of the testimony of the respondent, as well as the
    IJ intervened, Oshodi’s lawyer stopped this line of questioning and only
    asked Oshodi if he had anything to say “in addition to what was already
    previously submitted in [his] application and [his] statement.” Oshodi’s
    lawyer plainly did not understand the IJ’s directive as merely a request for
    Oshodi not to repeat himself “line by line” but rather an instruction to
    elicit testimony only about events not included in the application. We
    understand it in the same way.
    7
    The dissent takes issue with our characterization of this exchange. The
    full exchange is replicated in the dissent. Dissent at 34–35. We do not
    claim that this exchange alone would suggest that the IJ barred any of
    Oshodi’s testimony. Rather, we note this exchange to highlight the fact
    that Oshodi never actually testified to the events of his persecution.
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    documents that are presented.” The entirety of Oshodi’s
    direct examination covers fewer than ten pages of transcript.
    During cross-examination, the government’s attorney
    asked Oshodi several yes or no questions about the events
    discussed in his declaration, but did not allow him to explain
    these events:
    Q: And the person who was driving sped
    through the checkpoint, is that correct, at one
    point?
    A: My application said that.
    Q: Is that true? Is that what happened?
    A: Yeah, but can you ask me what happened
    before that?
    Q: I’ll ask the questions, please. You went to
    the checkpoint, is that correct?
    A: Uh-huh, that’s correct.
    Q: You stopped for a bit?
    A: Yes, counselor.
    Q: Your person behind the wheel got scared
    and sped off, is that correct?
    A: No, that’s wrong.
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    The government quickly moved on without affording Oshodi
    the opportunity to elaborate on what actually happened. The
    IJ had already warned Oshodi to answer the government’s
    questions directly and not to “expand” on them. The
    remainder of his testimony did not address the substance of
    his asylum claim, but focused on peripheral issues related to
    his credibility, such as the number of his siblings, his failure
    to apply for asylum earlier, and his prior criminal record.
    The IJ recognized that Oshodi’s application, if taken as
    true, established past persecution. The IJ, however, found
    Oshodi not credible—without ever hearing Oshodi testify
    about the events involving his persecution—on the basis of
    his use of aliases, his failure to provide the corroborating
    evidence, and various inconsistencies between his testimony,
    his initial credible-fear interview, and his asylum application.
    On this basis, he denied Oshodi’s withholding of removal and
    CAT claims. The BIA affirmed the IJ’s decision and rejected
    Oshodi’s due process claim that the IJ denied him an
    opportunity to testify fully in support of his application for
    relief. The BIA reasoned that there was no due process
    violation because, following the IJ’s directive limiting
    Oshodi’s testimony, Oshodi’s attorney asked Oshodi if he had
    anything to add to his written application and Oshodi briefly
    testified further about additional, albeit peripheral, details of
    his application.8
    8
    Pursuant to the parties’ stipulation, Oshodi’s initial petition for review
    was remanded to the BIA for consideration of the impact of the REAL ID
    Act on the corroboration and credibility issues in this case. On remand,
    the BIA reaffirmed its previous decision.
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    ANALYSIS
    A.
    Unlike challenges to the merits of an IJ’s decision, which
    we review under the deferential substantial evidence standard,
    we review de novo due process claims in removal
    proceedings. See Colmenar v. INS, 
    210 F.3d 967
    , 971 (9th
    Cir. 2000). It is well established that the Fifth Amendment
    guarantees non-citizens due process in removal proceedings.
    Id.; see also Reno v. Flores, 
    507 U.S. 292
    , 306 (1993) (citing
    The Japanese Immigrant Case, 
    189 U.S. 86
    , 100–01 (1903)).
    Therefore, every individual in removal proceedings is entitled
    to a full and fair hearing. Colmenar, 
    210 F.3d at 971
     (citation
    omitted). A vital hallmark of a full and fair hearing is the
    opportunity to present evidence and testimony on one’s
    behalf. Id.; see also Vargas-Hernandez v. Gonzales, 
    497 F.3d 919
    , 926–27 (9th Cir. 2007) (“Where an alien is given a full
    and fair opportunity . . . to present testimony and other
    evidence in support of the application, he or she has been
    provided with due process.”); Shoaira v. Ashcroft, 
    377 F.3d 837
    , 842 (8th Cir. 2004) (“For a deportation hearing to be
    fair, an IJ must allow a reasonable opportunity to examine the
    evidence and present witnesses.”).
    Indeed, where an applicant is not represented, the IJ has
    an affirmative duty to ensure that the record is fully
    developed for the benefit of the applicant. Jacinto v. INS, 
    208 F.3d 725
    , 734 (9th Cir. 2000). The statutory and regulatory
    regime also protects an alien’s right to present evidence and
    testimony on his behalf in removal proceedings, including his
    own testimony. 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(B) (“[T]he alien shall
    have a reasonable opportunity to examine the evidence
    against the alien, to present evidence on the alien’s own
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    behalf, and to cross-examine witnesses presented by the
    Government . . . .”); 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.1
    (c) (“The immigration
    judge shall receive and consider material and relevant
    evidence . . . .”).
    In any contested administrative hearing, admission of a
    party’s testimony is particularly essential to a full and fair
    hearing where credibility is a determinative factor, as it was
    here. Mathews v. Eldridge, 
    424 U.S. 319
    , 343–44 (1976)
    (noting that where credibility and veracity are critical to the
    decision-making process “written submissions are a wholly
    unsatisfactory basis for decision” (quoting Goldberg v. Kelly,
    
    397 U.S. 254
    , 269 (1970))). Contrary to this essential aspect
    of a full and fair hearing, Oshodi was not provided a
    reasonable opportunity to present evidence on his behalf. In
    particular, the IJ precluded him from providing critical
    testimony about the events of persecution that are the
    foundation of his withholding of removal and CAT claims.
    Oshodi’s declaration relates that he was subjected to brutal
    torture, including detention without food, severe beatings,
    sodomy, and a gun shot to his foot. He claims that he was
    stripped naked, doused with gasoline, and threatened with
    being burned alive. But he testified to none of those things
    because of the IJ’s directive. Instead, the testimony circled
    around peripheral issues such as his relationship with his
    estranged father and the number of his siblings and half-
    siblings. On this record, the IJ determined that Oshodi was
    not credible and thus the events related in his declaration
    should be deemed not credible as well.
    The importance of an asylum or withholding applicant’s
    testimony cannot be overstated, and the fact that Oshodi
    submitted a written declaration outlining the facts of his
    persecution is no response to the IJ’s refusal to hear his
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    testimony. An applicant’s testimony of past persecution
    and/or his fear of future persecution stands at the center of his
    claim and can, if credible, support an eligibility finding
    without further corroboration. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(ii);
    
    8 C.F.R. § 1208.13
    (a). Every asylum and withholding
    applicant is required to be examined under oath as to the
    contents of his application. 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11
    (c)(3)(iii).
    The BIA has held that it is reversible error for an IJ to
    adjudicate an alien’s application for asylum and withholding
    of removal without at least placing the applicant under oath
    and questioning him “as to whether the information in the
    written application is complete and correct.” Matter of Fefe,
    
    20 I. & N. Dec. 116
    , 118 (BIA 1989). Moreover, the BIA
    explained that in nearly all cases, a more in-depth oral
    examination of the asylum applicant is pivotal to a fair
    asylum proceeding: “In the ordinary course . . . we consider
    the full examination of an applicant to be an essential aspect
    of the asylum adjudication process for reasons related to
    fairness to the parties and to the integrity of the asylum
    process itself.” 
    Id.
     The BIA stressed the importance of a full
    examination in addition to a written application: “It is
    difficult for an alien to satisfy [the asylum] standard unless he
    presents testimony at his hearing which is consistent with and
    corroborates any previous written statements in his
    [application].” 
    Id.
    Thus, by refusing to allow Oshodi to testify to the
    contents of his written application, the IJ violated Oshodi’s
    due process right to present oral testimony about the events
    at the heart of his claim for withholding of removal,
    testimonial evidence that the BIA has recognized is central to
    the “integrity of the asylum process itself.” 
    Id.
     The
    foregoing was precisely our holding in Colmenar, 210 F.3d
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    at 971–72. In that case, as in this one, the IJ “refused to let
    Colmenar testify about anything that was included in his
    written application.” 
    Id. at 971
    . We held that the “IJ’s
    conduct was directly contrary to the BIA’s decision in Matter
    of Fefe” and found that the IJ improperly precluded Colmenar
    from presenting evidence on his behalf, in violation of due
    process. 
    Id.
     at 971–72.
    We similarly found a due process violation in Zolotukhin
    v. Gonzales, 
    417 F.3d 1073
    , 1075–76 (9th Cir. 2005), where
    the IJ “den[ied] Zolotukhin a full and fair opportunity to
    present evidence on his behalf” by cutting off Zolotukhin’s
    testimony about his family’s past persecution in Russia and
    refusing to admit testimony of family members and an expert.
    On other occasions, we have found a due process violation
    where the IJ did not exclude any of the applicant’s
    testimony—which, as established above, has special
    significance—but excluded other expert or corroborating
    testimony. See Lopez-Umanzor v. Gonzales, 
    405 F.3d 1049
    ,
    1057–58 (9th Cir. 2005) (holding that the IJ’s refusal to hear
    petitioner’s experts’ testimony violated due process); Kaur v.
    Ashcroft, 
    388 F.3d 734
    , 737–38 (9th Cir. 2004) (holding that
    the IJ’s exclusion of petitioner’s son’s testimony violated due
    process). The critical question is “[w]hether the IJ’s actions
    prevented the introduction of significant testimony.” Lopez-
    Umanzor, 
    405 F.3d at 1056
    . The answer here is clearly yes.9
    9
    Nothing in our decision curtails the IJ’s ordinary discretion to limit
    testimony in order to “focus the proceedings and exclude irrelevant
    evidence.” Kerciku v. INS, 
    314 F.3d 913
    , 918 (7th Cir. 2003). The IJ
    simply cannot do so in a wholesale manner that precludes the applicant
    from fully and fairly testifying as to the contents of his application.
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    The basic premise that applicants for asylum and
    withholding of removal have a due process right to testify
    fully as to the merits of their application is not unique to our
    circuit. In Kerciku v. INS, 
    314 F.3d 913
    , 918 (7th Cir. 2003)
    (per curiam), the Seventh Circuit made clear that when the IJ
    “bar[s] complete chunks of oral testimony that would support
    the applicant’s claims,” he violates the applicant’s due
    process rights. See also Rodriguez Galicia v. Gonzales, 
    422 F.3d 529
    , 539–40 (7th Cir. 2005) (concluding that the
    applicant was denied due process when the IJ not only
    repeatedly interrupted the applicant during her testimony but
    also prevented her from presenting expert testimony); Podio
    v. INS, 
    153 F.3d 506
    , 510–11 (7th Cir. 1998) (holding that the
    IJ violated applicant’s due process rights by refusing to allow
    him to testify fully and excluding corroborating testimony).10
    In Kerciku, the IJ cut off Kerciku’s direct testimony after he
    had testified only to a few peripheral issues. Thus, the IJ
    improperly “bar[red] complete chunks of [his] oral
    testimony.” 
    314 F.3d at 918
    . This was true even though
    Kerciku filed a written application outlining his asylum claim
    in detail. 
    Id.
     at 915–16. By barring any testimony repetitive
    of Oshodi’s written application, the IJ improperly “bar[red]
    complete chunks of [his] oral testimony” that would have
    supported his claim. See 
    id. at 918
    .
    The IJ’s refusal to hear Oshodi’s full testimony with
    respect to the abuses he suffered in Nigeria is particularly
    10
    The Third Circuit reached a similar conclusion in a case where the IJ
    improperly excluded evidence during a removal proceeding. See Cham
    v. Att’y Gen., 
    445 F.3d 683
    , 694 (3d. Cir. 2006) (holding that the IJ denied
    applicant due process because, inter alia, he refused to consider
    corroborating evidence and refused to continue the hearing in order to
    allow the testimony of additional witnesses).
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    unacceptable given that the basis for the IJ’s denial of relief
    rested solely on an adverse credibility finding. In making a
    credibility determination, the IJ is to consider the “totality of
    the circumstances,” including:
    [T]he demeanor, candor, or responsiveness of
    the applicant or witness, the inherent
    plausibility of the applicant’s or witness’s
    account, the consistency between the
    applicant’s or witness’s written and oral
    statements (whenever made and whether or
    not under oath, and considering the
    circumstances under which the statements
    were made), the internal consistency of each
    such statement, the consistency of such
    statements with other evidence of record
    (including the reports of the Department of
    State on country conditions), and any
    inaccuracies or falsehoods in such statements,
    without regard to whether an inconsistency,
    inaccuracy, or falsehood goes to the heart of
    the applicant’s claim, or any other relevant
    factor.
    
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(iii). Where, as here, the IJ does not
    allow the applicant to testify fully as to the merits of his
    application, the IJ’s ability to make a credibility
    determination based on the above factors is severely
    hampered. The IJ did not have the opportunity to judge
    Oshodi’s “demeanor, candor, or responsiveness” while
    testifying about the events of persecution and torture that he
    experienced, nor did the IJ have the ability to compare for
    consistency his oral presentation of those events to the way he
    described them in his written declaration. See 
    id.
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    The importance of live testimony to a credibility
    determination is well recognized and longstanding. See, e.g.,
    United States v. Thoms, 
    684 F.3d 893
    , 903 (9th Cir. 2012)
    (“The longstanding and repeated invocations in caselaw of
    the need of district courts to hear live testimony so as to
    further the accuracy and integrity of the factfinding process
    are not mere platitudes. Rather, live testimony is the bedrock
    of the search for truth in our judicial system.”); United States
    v. Mejia, 
    69 F.3d 309
    , 315 (9th Cir. 1995) (“There can be no
    doubt that seeing a witness testify live assists the finder of
    fact in evaluating the witness’s credibility.”); see also United
    States v. 1998 BMW “I” Convertible, 
    235 F.3d 397
    , 400 (8th
    Cir. 2000) (“[J]udges simply cannot decide whether a witness
    is telling the truth on the basis of a paper record and must
    observe the witnesses’ demeanor to best ascertain their
    veracity—or lack thereof.”). Precisely because of the
    importance of live testimony to credibility determinations, we
    have held, as a matter of constitutional due process, that when
    a magistrate judge makes a report and recommendation on a
    motion to suppress evidence, the district judge may not reject
    the magistrate judge’s credibility findings without conducting
    his own evidentiary hearing. United States v. Ridgway, 
    300 F.3d 1153
    , 1157 (9th Cir. 2002). We also applied this rule to
    magistrate judges’ credibility determinations in habeas
    Batson claims. Johnson v. Finn, 
    665 F.3d 1063
    , 1075–76
    (9th Cir. 2011). In so holding, we explained that this
    requirement ensures that any factual determination “will be
    the result of first-hand observations of witnesses and
    evidence.” 
    Id. at 1072
    .
    Indeed, the rationale behind the substantial deference we
    give to agency credibility determinations is that IJs “are in the
    best position to assess demeanor and other credibility cues
    that we cannot readily access on review.” Shrestha v. Holder,
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                               19
    
    590 F.3d 1034
    , 1041 (9th Cir. 2010); see also H.R. Rep. No.
    109-72, at 167 (Conf. Rep. on REAL ID Act of 2005) (“An
    immigration judge alone is in a position to observe an alien’s
    tone and demeanor, to explore inconsistencies in testimony,
    and to apply workable and consistent standards in the
    evaluation of testimonial evidence. He [or she] is, by virtue
    of his [or her] acquired skill, uniquely qualified to decide
    whether an alien’s testimony has about it the ring of truth.”
    (quoting Sarvia-Quintanilla v. INS, 
    767 F.2d 1387
    , 1395 (9th
    Cir. 1985))). We defer to a trial court’s credibility
    determinations for the same reason. See Anderson v.
    Bessemer City, 
    470 U.S. 564
    , 575 (1985) (“When findings are
    based on determinations regarding the credibility of
    witnesses, Rule 52(a) demands even greater deference to the
    trial court’s findings; for only the trial judge can be aware of
    the variations in demeanor and tone of voice that bear so
    heavily on the listener’s understanding of and belief in what
    is said.”).11
    In light of the foregoing, it makes sense that the only
    exception the BIA has recognized to its general rule that an
    applicant for asylum or withholding of removal should be
    11
    The dissent faults our reliance on Anderson, claiming that it does not
    stand “for the proposition that special deference is owed a trial court’s
    credibility determination because it is best able to evaluate demeanor
    during live testimony” but rather stands for the “contrary position.”
    Dissent at 44. We recognize that the Court stated that “the rationale for
    deference to the original finder of fact is not limited to the superiority of
    the trial judge’s position to make determinations of credibility.” Anderson,
    
    470 U.S. at 574
     (emphasis added). True enough. But it then said that
    appellate courts owe “even greater deference” when findings are based on
    credibility determinations. 
    Id. at 575
    . Try as it might, the dissent simply
    cannot refute the clear and repeated holdings of the Court that live
    testimony is critical to credibility matters. Anderson’s indication that we
    owe deference to trial courts for other reasons is of no consequence.
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    fully examined on his application is when both parties
    stipulate that the testimony would be both consistent with the
    written statement and believable. Matter of Fefe, 20 I. & N.
    Dec. at 118. There was no such stipulation in this case, and
    the IJ did not find Oshodi’s declaration believable.
    By precluding Oshodi from testifying about the critical
    events in his application, the IJ short-circuited his ability to
    judge accurately Oshodi’s credibility. To do so properly, he
    must consider the “totality of the circumstances,” yet here,
    the IJ restricted the evidence, especially the evidence most
    relevant to credibility, such as demeanor and the consistency
    of testimony. Without hearing Oshodi’s testimony about the
    persecution he suffered in Nigeria, and judging his demeanor
    and consistency during that testimony, the IJ determined that
    Oshodi was not credible and therefore that the contents of
    Oshodi’s written declaration should not be credited. In doing
    so, the IJ improperly “prejudg[ed] . . . the [] ‘credibility or the
    probative value’” of that testimony. Lopez-Umanzor, 
    405 F.3d at 1056
     (quoting Kaur, 
    388 F.3d at 737
    ).
    In Shrestha, we held that “an IJ [must] not cherry pick
    solely facts favoring an adverse credibility determination
    while ignoring facts that undermine that result.” 
    590 F.3d at 1040
    . Here, however, the IJ paid little heed to the principle
    recognized in Shrestha. Although the IJ had the benefit of the
    government’s cross-examination of Oshodi regarding the
    alleged inconsistencies in his application and other factors
    weighing against his credibility, the IJ did not have the
    benefit of Oshodi’s testimony regarding the central events
    underlying his application. The IJ was unable to judge
    Oshodi’s demeanor and the nature of his testimony while he
    testified about the events of his persecution, the veracity of
    which were critical to the merits of his application. The IJ
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    cannot avoid considering all relevant factors and evidence in
    making a credibility determination by refusing to hear
    significant evidence in the first place. See 
    id.
     (“[An] IJ
    cannot selectively examine evidence in determining
    credibility, but must present a reasoned analysis of the
    evidence as a whole.” (quoting Hanaj v. Gonzales, 
    446 F.3d 694
    , 700 (7th Cir. 2006))).
    Despite the forgoing, the BIA rejected Oshodi’s due
    process claim because, after the IJ’s directive not to testify to
    the contents of his declaration, Oshodi’s attorney asked him
    if he had anything further to add, and Oshodi testified to a
    few additional details. Oshodi’s attorney, however, phrased
    his questions to Oshodi to comply with the IJ’s directive and
    avoided eliciting testimony regarding the events discussed in
    his application: “Is there anything that you would like to add
    in addition to what was already previously submitted in your
    asylum application and your statement that you submitted to
    the Court?” In response, Oshodi reasonably avoided
    testifying about the events described in his application and
    used that opportunity only to clarify a detail discussed in his
    expert witness’s testimony. At no point did the IJ modify or
    reconsider his earlier directive and affirmatively allow
    Oshodi to testify about the contents of his application.
    Thus, although Oshodi’s attorney elicited some additional
    testimony outside the scope of the restrictions imposed by the
    IJ, Oshodi was still precluded from testifying about the events
    described in his application. The end result of the IJ’s
    restriction on Oshodi’s testimony was that it “prevented the
    introduction of significant testimony,” Lopez-Umanzor, 
    405 F.3d at 1056
    , that was critical to the merits of his application.
    In Colmenar, which presented a very similar factual scenario,
    we rejected the BIA’s reasoning in this case. 
    210 F.3d at 972
    .
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    The IJ cut off Colmenar’s direct testimony but, at the close of
    his testimony, the government attorney and IJ asked him if he
    had anything to add. 
    Id.
     We found those cursory questions
    insufficient to cure the IJ’s previous refusal to allow
    Colmenar to testify to the contents of his written application.
    
    Id.
     That Oshodi testified to some facts regarding his
    application after the IJ’s instruction does not cure the IJ’s
    refusal to admit testimony on the most significant events
    underlying Oshodi’s withholding of removal and CAT
    claims—testimony which was critical to the IJ’s credibility
    analysis.
    B.
    The dissent faults our due process analysis for failing to
    begin by conducting the balancing test outlined in Mathews
    v. Eldridge. The dissent, however, skips over the fact that our
    circuit, as well as other circuits, has already determined that
    a due process right to present oral testimony in asylum cases
    exists, especially in cases that hinge on credibility. See, e.g.,
    Colmenar, 
    210 F.3d at
    971–72; Kerciku v. INS, 
    314 F.3d at 918
    . Nonetheless, a Mathews analysis only supports our
    conclusion. Under Mathews, we determine what process is
    due by balancing (1) the private interest at stake, (2) “the risk
    of an erroneous deprivation of such interest through the
    procedures used, and the probable value, if any, of
    additional . . . safeguards,” and (3) the government’s interest,
    including the burdens of any additional process. 
    424 U.S. at 335
    .
    The first factor weighs heavily in Oshodi’s favor. We
    have consistently recognized that deportation is a
    “particularly severe penalty.” Padilla v. Kentucky, 
    130 S. Ct. 1473
    , 1481 (2010) (internal quotation marks omitted); see
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    also Landon v. Plascencia, 
    459 U.S. 21
    , 34 (1982)
    (“Plasencia’s interest here is, without question, a weighty
    one. She stands to lose the right to stay and live and work in
    this land of freedom. Further, she may lose the right to rejoin
    her immediate family, a right that ranks high among the
    interests of the individual.”) (internal quotation marks and
    citation omitted). In the case of an asylum and withholding
    of removal applicant, the private interest could hardly be
    greater. If the court errs, the consequences for the applicant
    could be severe persecution, torture, or even death. INS v.
    Cardoza-Fonseca, 
    480 U.S. 421
    , 449 (1987) (“Deportation is
    always a harsh measure; it is all the more replete with danger
    when the alien makes a claim that he or she will be subject to
    death or persecution if forced to return to his or her home
    country.”).
    The second factor in the Mathews balancing test is the
    adequacy of the challenged procedure: in this case, the denial
    of an asylum applicant’s ability to testify about the contents
    of his asylum and withholding application when the merits of
    his case hinges on his credibility. This factor also weighs in
    Oshodi’s favor. The dissent relies heavily upon FDIC v.
    Mallen, 
    486 U.S. 230
     (1988), to support its argument that oral
    testimony was not required in this case. Dissent at 37–39.
    Mallen, however, is entirely consistent with our holding that
    due process entails a right to present oral testimony in asylum
    and withholding cases that turn on credibility determinations.
    In Mallen, the plaintiff brought a due process challenge to a
    statute that did not provide for an unfettered right to oral
    testimony in a different setting altogether, a post-suspension
    hearing on an FDIC decision to suspend from office an
    indicted official of a federally insured bank. 
    Id. at 232
    . In
    rejecting the challenge, the Court explicitly assumed that due
    process would sometimes require oral testimony:
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    [W]e may assume that there are
    post-suspension proceedings under § 1818(g)
    in which oral testimony is essential to enable
    the hearing officer to make a fair appraisal of
    the impact of a suspended officer’s continued
    service on the bank’s security and reputation.
    Id. at 247. The Court rejected the facial challenge to the
    statute on the narrow ground that the hearing officer should
    have been given the opportunity to decide whether to hear
    oral testimony in that case. Id. The Court concluded that the
    officer may have decided to hear the testimony, or may have
    properly rejected it as unnecessary under the circumstances
    of that case. Id.
    We agree that Mallen stands for the proposition that oral
    testimony is not always required in administrative
    proceedings. Id. at 247–48; Dissent at 39. But such an
    unsurprising holding is of little consequence here. Indeed,
    this proposition is established by Mathews. 
    424 U.S. at 349
    .
    Mallen also unremarkably suggests that, in some
    administrative proceedings and under certain circumstances,
    the fact that the material was “adequately covered by the
    written submissions” might be a valid reason for denying oral
    testimony. 
    486 U.S. at 247
    . But Mallen also stands for the
    proposition that, in some cases, due process likely requires
    the admission of oral testimony. 
    Id.
     It is our task, under
    Mathews, to determine what process is due in an asylum and
    withholding hearing, where credibility is a paramount
    consideration. The Court’s holding that oral testimony may
    not be required in every post-suspension hearing of a bank
    official is not at all inconsistent with our holding today that
    due process requires the admission of oral testimony in an
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    asylum and withholding hearing wherein the applicant’s
    eligibility for relief turns on his credibility.
    In determining whether oral testimony should be required
    in any particular case, we must consider “the risk of an
    erroneous deprivation of [the private interest] through the
    procedures used, and the probable value, if any, of
    additional . . . safeguards.” Mathews, 
    424 U.S. at 335
    .
    Mathews provides guidance for when oral testimony is
    valuable under this prong: the touchstone is, unsurprisingly,
    the importance of credibility determinations to the type of
    case presented. In Matthews, the Court explained that an
    evidentiary hearing complete with oral testimony was not
    required before the termination of disability benefits because
    such cases primarily turn on “routine, standard, and unbiased
    medical reports by physician specialists” and, therefore,
    ordinarily “the specter of questionable credibility and veracity
    is not present.” 
    Id. at 344
     (internal quotation marks
    omitted).12 Credibility was the key distinction between
    Mathews and Goldberg, a case where the Court found that
    due process required an evidentiary hearing and the
    admission of oral testimony before welfare benefits could be
    terminated. Mathews explained:
    12
    The administrative procedure in Mathews granted disability candidates
    the right to a full evidentiary hearing post-termination of disability
    benefits. 
    424 U.S. at 339
    . Eldridge’s claim was that due process required
    an evidentiary hearing before the government terminated benefits even
    where there was a right to a post-deprivation evidentiary hearing. The
    framework also allowed for retroactive benefits in cases where the
    disability recipient proved continuing eligibility for benefits at the
    evidentiary hearing or at any later stage in the review proceedings. 
    Id.
     If
    Oshodi is removed, he will have no further opportunity to challenge the
    IJ’s determination.
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    Central to the evaluation of any administrative
    process is the nature of the relevant
    inquiry. . . . In the [welfare cases], a wide
    variety of information may be deemed
    relevant, and issues of witness credibility and
    veracity often are critical to the
    decisionmaking process. Goldberg noted that
    in such circumstances “written submissions
    are a wholly unsatisfactory basis for
    decision.”
    Mathews, 
    424 U.S. at
    343–44 (quoting Goldberg, 
    397 U.S. at 269
    ). Therefore, Mathews teaches us that cases that hinge on
    credibility are precisely the types of cases where the probable
    value of oral testimony is high and the lack of oral testimony
    significantly raises the risk of an erroneous decision.13
    Therefore, the second Mathews factor weighs in favor of
    requiring oral testimony in asylum cases, which often turn
    solely on credibility determinations.14
    13
    The dissent cites to Mackey v. Montrym, 
    443 U.S. 1
     (1979) to suggest
    that this is “a lesson the Supreme Court has not yet learned.” Dissent at
    43. But Mackey was a case about whether a state was required to provide
    for a pre-deprivation hearing before suspending an individual’s driver’s
    license. The statutory scheme gave the individual the right to a full
    evidentiary hearing post-deprivation. Thus, it does not at all address
    whether an individual has a right to live testimony in cases involving
    credibility determinations. Indeed, the Court recognized that an
    evidentiary hearing, although post-deprivation, would be the “necessary”
    place to “resolve questions of credibility or conflicts in the evidence.” 
    Id. at 15
    .
    14
    The dissent argues that, in determining credibility, “the ability to
    present live direct testimony during a removal proceeding strikes [the
    dissent] as relatively unimportant,” and bases the second factor analysis
    on that proposition. Dissent at 45. Although it may strike the dissent as
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    The final Mathews factor requires us to consider the
    burdens our holding may place on the administrative process.
    The burden here is minimal since we only require that IJs
    follow the governing rules and regulations. As discussed
    above, Matter of Fefe requires testimony by an asylum
    applicant in each case and requires “the full examination of
    an applicant” except in the exceptional case where the parties
    stipulate that “the applicant’s testimony would be entirely
    consistent with the written materials and that the oral
    statement would be believably presented.” 20 I. & N. Dec. at
    118. In short, we require no process that the government has
    not already imposed on itself.
    In sum, we conclude that a Mathews analysis clearly
    supports our conclusion that due process entails the right to
    present oral testimony in asylum and withholding cases that
    turn upon an applicant’s credibility.
    relatively unimportant, the importance of live testimony is well-
    established in Supreme Court and Ninth Circuit jurisprudence, supra
    18–20, 26–27. Indeed, we accord IJs significant deference based, at least
    in part, upon the assumption that the ability to observe live testimony
    matters a great deal, supra 18–19.
    The dissent also cites Apouviepseakoda v. Gonzales, 
    475 F.3d 881
    ,
    897 (7th Cir. 2007) (Posner, J., dissenting), wherein Judge Posner, in
    dissent, questioned the value of live testimony to credibility
    determinations where such testimony is presented through an interpreter.
    Dissent at 46. Judge Posner’s views, regardless of their merit, are not
    relevant here where there was no interpreter. We doubt that Judge
    Posner’s critique applies not only to those who testify through interpreters
    but also to those who “simply grew up in a different culture.” Dissent at
    46–47. The possible cultural obstacles the dissent cites are not an excuse
    for depriving petitioners the right to present their own story in their own
    words. Because Oshodi testified in English, and not through an
    interpreter, the views of Judge Posner, as echoed by the dissent, are of no
    import here.
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    C.
    To prevail on his due process claim, Oshodi must also
    show prejudice. Colmenar, 
    210 F.3d at 971
    . To show
    prejudice Oshodi need only demonstrate “that the outcome of
    the proceeding may have been affected by the alleged
    violation.” Zolotukhin, 
    417 F.3d at 1076
     (emphasis in
    original) (quoting Lopez-Umanzor, 
    405 F.3d at 1058
    ). Here,
    the outcome turned entirely on Oshodi’s credibility. The IJ
    recognized that Oshodi’s application, if believed,
    demonstrated past persecution. Given the importance of an
    applicant’s live testimony to an IJ’s credibility determination,
    supra, it follows that the IJ’s failure to allow Oshodi to testify
    about the persecution he described in his application may
    have influenced his adverse credibility decision. Oshodi’s
    “testimony could have been so compelling and consistent that
    it would have altered the judge’s initial credibility
    determination.” Kerciku, 
    314 F.3d at 919
    .
    A finding of prejudice is further supported by a close
    examination of the IJ’s decision in this case. The IJ’s
    decision relied heavily on Oshodi’s testimony and gave little
    to no credence to the contents of his declaration. He
    dedicates three full pages to outlining all of Oshodi’s
    testimony, which primarily consisted of the government’s
    cross-examination. With respect to the two primary events of
    past persecution at the foundation of Oshodi’s claim, the IJ
    devoted one paragraph. Moreover, the IJ appears to have
    minimized the importance of these events to Oshodi’s claim
    because he testified to them only briefly: “The respondent
    testified briefly about two other incidents that involved
    persecution by Nigerian officials.” Of course, the reason
    Oshodi only testified briefly about these events was that the
    IJ instructed him not to testify about them at all. The IJ also
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    incorrectly discredited these events because “[t]he respondent
    failed to include these incidents on his application for asylum,
    but submitted into evidence a separate affidavit describing
    each in some detail.” In fact, Oshodi did mention both of
    these events with some specificity in his application and then
    refers the reader to an attached declaration discussing the
    events in even greater detail. Because the IJ cut off Oshodi’s
    testimony early in the hearing, the only evidence of the
    significant events of past persecution was in his application
    and attached declaration. The IJ, however, gave that evidence
    little weight, focusing instead on the content of Oshodi’s
    limited testimony. On this record, Oshodi has clearly met his
    burden to demonstrate that his inability to fully testify may
    have affected the outcome of his case. See Zolotukhin, 
    417 F.3d at 1076
    .15
    15
    The dissent merely repeats the IJ’s credibility determination and then
    concludes that Oshodi cannot prevail under the prejudice prong because
    the IJ’s credibility determination was, the dissent believes, well-supported.
    Because the IJ will have to conduct a new hearing, we do not reach the
    merits of the credibility finding. We note, however, that the credibility
    determination is not as ironclad as the dissent suggests. We observe that
    the credibility finding was based exclusively on the purported
    inconsistencies in Oshodi’s testimony and gave no weight to significant
    corroborating evidence that went to the heart of his claim, in particular a
    newspaper article discussing Oshodi and a medical report describing
    fourteen separate scars or chronic conditions he suffers from that are
    consistent with his story. Instead, the IJ found a lack of credibility without
    considering that evidence and then discounted the evidence because of the
    credibility finding. On remand, the IJ must consider the totality of the
    circumstances, including the “consistency of [Oshodi’s] statements with
    other evidence of record” when determining credibility. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(iii). As we have explained, “an IJ cannot selectively
    examine evidence in determining credibility, but must present a reasoned
    analysis of the evidence as a whole.” Shrestha v. Holder, 
    590 F.3d 1034
    ,
    1040 (9th Cir. 2009).
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    CONCLUSION
    As we stated in Colmenar, “[w]e do not enjoy second-
    guessing the way Immigration Judges run their courtrooms,”
    but it is imperative that asylum and withholding claims are
    heard “fully and fairly” before we make a judgment on the
    merits. 
    210 F.3d at 973
    . “This is consistent with our role as
    judges, and the values of our Constitution demand no less.”
    
    Id.
     We reaffirm our holding, and the BIA’s own rule, that an
    applicant’s oral testimony is “an essential aspect of the
    asylum adjudication process” and the refusal to hear that
    testimony is a violation of due process. Matter of Fefe, 20 I.
    & N. Dec. at 118; see also Colmenar, 
    210 F.3d at 972
    . The
    petition for review is granted and the case is remanded for a
    new hearing before an IJ.
    PETITION GRANTED in part and REMANDED.
    Chief Judge KOZINSKI, with whom Judges RAWLINSON
    and BYBEE join, dissenting:
    The majority today holds that aliens seeking asylum have
    a constitutional right “to testify fully as to the merits of their
    application.” Maj. op. 16. But constitutional rights, once
    created, are not easily cabined: If would-be immigrants have
    a right to testify without limitation in support of their claims,
    Unlike the dissent, we do not presume to decide that an IJ, once
    noting some inconsistencies in the record, could not still find an applicant
    credible based on persuasive testimony. It is not inconceivable that a man
    with a criminal background could also face severe persecution in his home
    country.
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    so do untold millions of citizens whose vital interests are at
    stake in administrative proceedings. Which is doubtless why
    the Supreme Court has rejected the existence of any such
    right. Today’s ruling is, in any event, wholly unnecessary
    because the IJ in this case didn’t preclude petitioner from
    testifying. The majority manufactures this constitutional
    melodrama out of whole cloth.
    Oshodi submitted copious written materials in support of
    his asylum application, including medical reports, letters from
    family and a declaration describing brutal encounters with
    Nigerian police. At an oral hearing, he called an expert
    witness, testified under the direction of his lawyer and had a
    chance to explain adverse evidence offered by the
    government. The IJ didn’t believe him and explained why:
    Oshodi’s long history of lying about his identity and the
    numerous inconsistencies in his testimony. See Appendix.
    This careful and detailed credibility finding is solid as a rock;
    we have absolutely no business reversing it.
    1. First things first: The IJ didn’t preclude Oshodi from
    testifying. The majority focuses on a fleeting exchange that
    took place shortly after Oshodi began his direct examination.
    Oshodi opened with biographical details, such as his
    education in Nigeria and his involvement in politics as a
    student. Impatient that Oshodi’s lawyer was lingering over
    background material, the IJ encouraged him to cut to the
    chase:
    I’ve read the statements of the respondent,
    read his application. I’ve gone over the
    materials. I’m not looking for everything to
    simply be repeated. I mean I understand that
    there needs to be testimony concerning [the]
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    application, but if you have something to add
    to what was there, fine; otherwise, I don’t
    need it line by line, okay?
    Based on this and nothing more, the majority claims that
    the judge “cut off the direct examination” and “refus[ed] to
    hear Oshodi’s full testimony with respect to the abuses he
    suffered in Nigeria.” Maj. op. 8, 16. The majority intones
    this mantra at least twenty-five times, as if repeating the
    accusation will make it stick. Maj. op. 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13,
    14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 28, 29. But if immigration judges
    (and other judges too, presumably) are constitutionally
    prohibited from uttering even such tame exhortations, then
    trials and hearings will become Wagnerian operas where
    every litigant can hold center stage until the cows come
    home.
    Judicial time and attention are limited, and feedback
    about what’s going on in the judicial mind is helpful. The
    IJ’s statement was no different from what we say to counsel
    hundreds of times every year: “We’ve read the briefs, so
    there’s no need to recite the facts,” or “We understand your
    position on the suppression argument, and we’d like you to
    focus on the jury instructions instead.” Judges are not potted
    plants. Giving litigants the kind of guidance that the IJ gave
    here is an important part of the job, not a denial of due
    process.
    The majority insists that the IJ “barred complete chunks
    of . . . oral testimony,” maj. op. 16 (brackets omitted), but it
    can’t cite any prohibitory words. The judge didn’t say, “Mr.
    Oshodi, you may not testify as to anything already addressed
    in your papers.” He didn’t say, “Testimony will be limited to
    new material.” Nor did he use the majority’s word, “barred,”
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    or any of its cognates, synonyms or equivalents. Rather, the
    IJ (1) recognized “that there needs to be testimony concerning
    [the] application,” but advised Oshodi that (2) he was not
    “looking for everything to simply be repeated” and that (3)
    Oshodi was free to add new material. Then he added, (4)
    “[O]therwise, I don’t need it line by line, okay?” If the judge
    meant to prohibit repetition of anything in the written
    application, he would have said so outright or stopped at
    statement (3). The last phrase makes sense only if the judge
    expected Oshodi to testify as to material that was already
    covered in his asylum application.
    The IJ’s mild intervention echoed exhortations heard in
    courtrooms across the country every day: “Move it along,
    counselor.” If admonitions this mild and innocuous are due
    process violations, then what can a judge say to a meandering
    litigant to keep the hearing on track? According to the
    majority, judges violate the Constitution if they issue any
    instruction that a litigant or his lawyer might interpret as a
    refusal to hear testimony. But in a system with a backlog of
    nearly 30,000 unresolved cases from last year alone, see U.S.
    Dep’t of Justice, Exec. Office for Immigration Review, FY
    2012 Statistical Year Book B2 (2013), we can’t afford to turn
    every sign of impatience into a constitutional violation, see
    Aguilar-Solis v. INS, 
    168 F.3d 565
    , 569 (1st Cir. 1999).
    IJs commonly rush aliens through their testimony far
    more forcefully than the judge did here, see, e.g., Boci v.
    Gonzales, 
    473 F.3d 762
    , 765 (7th Cir. 2007), and lawyers
    have a professional duty to push back if they believe their
    clients’ rights are being compromised, see Nat’l Immigration
    Project, Nat’l Lawyers Guild, Immigration Law and Defense
    § 13.72, at 974 (2012). Nothing the IJ said precluded Oshodi
    from giving a vivid oral account of the incidents of
    34                  OSHODI V. HOLDER
    persecution he allegedly suffered. If his lawyer had any
    doubts on that score, he could have asked for clarification or
    made a proffer as to what his client would say. At the very
    least, he should have objected.
    Oshodi’s lawyer chose not to pursue the matter. For all
    we know, he made a tactical decision, fearing that Oshodi
    would confuse facts or testify inconsistently with his written
    statement. See Grava v. INS, 
    205 F.3d 1177
    , 1180 (9th Cir.
    2000) (“Given the difficulties many applicants face at their
    hearings . . . the asylum application sometimes represents an
    alien’s best case.”). Clients do stumble on occasion,
    particularly when they’re spinning tales, and Oshodi has a
    long history of prevarication. His lawyer may have been just
    as happy to rest on the written submissions.
    The majority points to a second instance where the IJ
    allegedly kept Oshodi from testifying, maj. op. 9–10, but this
    is pure fantasy. Oshodi’s lawyer asked him to recount an
    incident where he was beaten by police at a political rally.
    Rather than answer the question, Oshodi spoke at length
    about his door-to-door campaign to raise awareness about a
    tainted election. Understandably confused, the IJ tried to get
    Oshodi back on track. The majority claims that the IJ
    precluded Oshodi from responding, but this just isn’t true.
    Here is the full exchange:
    Q: Briefly describe what happened in this
    encounter with the police.
    A: Like I said earlier, we were in the
    neighborhood called Oshodi, if you can
    remember, is my last name and is the
    (indiscernible) of Nigeria. And we were
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    talking to people in the neighborhood sharing
    political awareness to the people through
    political material such as posters, flyers, and
    pamphlets, and we talked to you know,
    advised people of what was going wrong in
    Nigeria. Specifically, in 1979 when Shagari
    won the election,
    IJ: Spelling please?
    A: S H A G A R I. There was, there was an
    electoral committee that was elected to
    oversee and write a little portion of the
    constitution, and there was a decree which
    specifies that any president from any party
    must win two-thirds of the votes or could not
    be elected as a president and the election has
    to be done over. Unfortunately, this present
    president, Alhaji Shehu Shagari, only won 12
    states and 25% and the 13 states, he only won
    like 10% of that, which was an illegal
    election. So my main strategy was to alert the
    people of Nigeria, especially my community
    and the chapter to oppose the election. Also
    in Nigeria, the people—
    IJ: Excuse me. Counsel, do you have a
    specific question for the respondent to answer
    because right now I don’t know what he’s
    answering. I don’t think that it was the last
    question?
    Oshodi spent a page of transcript (six fairly convoluted
    sentences) not answering the question put to him. The IJ
    36                   OSHODI V. HOLDER
    pointed this out and asked his lawyer whether he had a
    “specific question for [Oshodi] to answer.” Rather than
    restating his question as the IJ suggested, the lawyer passed
    on to another matter and then abruptly ended his examination.
    The majority is being unjust in calling what the IJ did an
    “admonishment” and blaming him for the lawyer’s decision
    to end the examination. Maj. op. 9–10.
    We have long held that judges act well within their
    discretion when they “participate in the examination of
    witnesses for the purpose of clarifying the evidence.” United
    States v. Mostella, 
    802 F.2d 358
    , 361 (9th Cir. 1986). IJs
    have not merely the inherent authority of trial judges, but an
    affirmative duty, imposed by statute, to develop a clear record
    for appeal. See 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(1); Kaur v. Ashcroft, 
    388 F.3d 734
    , 737 (9th Cir. 2004); 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11
    (c)(3)(ii).
    Oshodi had strayed far from his lawyer’s question, and the IJ
    tried to bring clarity and coherence to a potentially confusing
    portion of the transcript. That Oshodi’s lawyer then suddenly
    ceased questioning Oshodi cannot fairly be attributed to
    anything the IJ said or did.
    The majority’s reading of the record “is yet another
    tiresome example of the nitpicking we engage in as part of a
    systematic effort to dismantle the reasons immigration judges
    give for their decisions.” Kumar v. Gonzales, 
    444 F.3d 1043
    ,
    1056 (9th Cir. 2006) (Kozinski, J., dissenting in part)
    (internal quotation marks omitted). Here the IJ was
    thoroughly familiar with Oshodi’s written submissions, and
    wished to focus the hearing on new, important or disputed
    material. See 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11
    (c)(3). Instead of praising
    the IJ’s diligent preparation and careful management of the
    hearing, the majority chastises him for violating the
    Constitution. But “an IJ who plays an active role in keeping
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                       37
    the focus of the evidentiary hearing sharp is to be
    commended, not condemned.” Jorgji v. Mukasey, 
    514 F.3d 53
    , 59 (1st Cir. 2008) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    2. But let’s assume that the IJ did what the majority
    unfairly claims he did. Let’s pretend he told petitioner: “You
    may not testify as to anything contained in your sworn
    asylum statement. You may testify as to any new material,
    and you may then be cross-examined as to your written and
    oral statements.” Had the IJ done this, which plainly he did
    not, this would present an interesting constitutional question:
    Does due process guarantee an illegal alien seeking to remain
    in the United States the right to present live testimony in
    support of his petition, or may he be limited to a sworn
    written statement followed by live cross-examination?
    The Supreme Court has spoken directly to this issue:
    “There is no inexorable requirement that oral testimony must
    be heard in every administrative proceeding in which it is
    tendered.” FDIC v. Mallen, 
    486 U.S. 230
    , 247–48 (1988).
    Mallen was the president and a director of a federally insured
    bank who was indicted, but not yet tried, on various false
    statement charges. 
    Id.
     at 236–37. The FDIC issued an ex
    parte order suspending Mallen from further participation in
    the bank’s affairs. 
    Id. at 238
    . Mallen requested an
    administrative hearing where he proposed to present “both
    oral testimony and written evidence” showing that his
    “continued service was not likely to pose a threat to the
    interests of the bank’s depositors or to threaten public
    confidence in the bank.” 
    Id.
     The FDIC agreed to a hearing,
    but “took the position that oral testimony would not be
    necessary.” 
    Id. at 239
    . The FDIC relied on 
    12 U.S.C. § 1818
    (g)(3), which provided that the bank officer could
    “submit written materials (or, at the discretion of the agency,
    38                   OSHODI V. HOLDER
    oral testimony) and oral argument.” Mallen, 
    486 U.S. at
    235–36 n.6.
    Mallen filed suit in district court, claiming that he was
    denied due process because the administrative hearing did not
    guarantee him the right to present live testimony. 
    Id. at 239
    .
    The district court rejected the first claim but sustained the
    second, holding the statutory procedure “‘constitutionally
    inadequate . . . because it fails to provide for a hearing at
    which oral evidence can be presented.’” 
    Id.
     (quoting
    
    667 F. Supp. 652
    , 659–60 (N.D. Iowa 1987)). On that basis,
    it nullified Mallen’s suspension. 
    Id.
     The government took a
    direct appeal to the Supreme Court under then-prevailing
    procedures.
    The Supreme Court unanimously reversed. 
    Id. at 248
    . It
    recognized that Mallen’s “interest in the right to continue to
    serve as president of the bank and to participate in the
    conduct of its affairs is a property right protected by the Fifth
    Amendment Due Process Clause,” and Mallen was therefore
    “entitled to the protection of due process of law.” 
    Id. at 240
    .
    The Court rejected his contention that the statutory procedure
    “violates due process because it does not guarantee an
    opportunity to present oral testimony.” 
    Id. at 247
    . The Court
    recognized that there may be “post-suspension proceedings
    under § 1818(g) in which oral testimony is essential to enable
    the hearing officer to make a fair appraisal of the impact of a
    suspended officer’s continued service on the bank’s security
    and reputation.” Id. Mallen, however, had not proffered any
    such evidence to the hearing officer and given him an
    opportunity to accept or reject it. “For all we know,” the
    Court explained, “the hearing officer might have accepted
    such evidence; or if he rejected it, he might have been entirely
    correct in deciding that it was merely cumulative to material
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                       39
    that was adequately covered by written submissions or that
    it was otherwise unnecessary or improper.” Id. (emphasis
    added). In reaching its conclusion, the Court cited with
    approval the three-judge district court’s ruling in Feinberg v.
    FDIC, 
    420 F. Supp. 109
    , 120 (D.D.C. 1976), which held that
    such a hearing “does not seem to require any more than
    written submission.” Mallen, 
    486 U.S. at
    248 n.13.
    Mallen stands for two propositions that bear directly on
    our case. First, it holds squarely that due process does not
    require an opportunity to present live testimony in every case
    where important property or liberty interests are at stake. At
    times, all oral testimony can be excluded, not merely direct
    testimony, as the majority (wrongly) posits happened in
    Oshodi’s case. Second, the Court states quite clearly that one
    legitimate basis for precluding the presentation of oral
    testimony is that the “material . . . was adequately covered by
    [the] written submissions.” 
    Id. at 247
    . If the IJ prohibited
    anything at all here, it was precisely what the Supreme Court
    in Mallen said it was OK to prohibit.
    Mallen is not the only case where the Supreme Court has
    shown itself reluctant to impose constitutional constraints on
    administrative proceedings. In Richardson v. Perales, 
    402 U.S. 389
     (1971), the Court considered whether a hearing
    officer violated due process by basing the denial of disability
    benefits on the hearsay reports of nonattending physicians,
    when those reports were contradicted by the live testimony of
    a treating physician. 
    Id.
     at 401–02. The district court had
    been “reluctant to accept as substantial evidence the opinions
    of medical experts submitted in the form of unsworn written
    reports, the admission of which would have the effect of
    denying the opposition an opportunity for cross-
    examination,” and the Fifth Circuit affirmed. 
    Id.
     at 397–98.
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    The Supreme Court reversed, emphasizing the informality of
    Social Security claims procedures and the burden and
    expense of conducting 20,000 hearings a year. 
    Id.
     at 400–06.
    The majority purports to read Mallen as “also stan[ding]
    for the proposition that, in some cases, due process likely
    requires the admission of oral testimony.” Maj. op. at 24
    (citing Mallen, 
    486 U.S. at 247
    ). Mallen presents this as an
    assumption, not a holding, but dismisses it as inapplicable
    when the oral testimony is “merely cumulative to material
    that was adequately covered by written submissions,” 
    486 U.S. at
    247—precisely Oshodi’s situation. Even under the
    majority’s own reading of Mallen, there is no due process
    violation here.
    But the majority far outstrips even its own optimistic
    interpretation of Mallen by holding that IJs must allow oral
    testimony not just in some asylum cases, but in all of them:
    “[O]ur holding today [is] that due process requires the
    admission of oral testimony in an asylum and withholding
    hearing wherein the applicant’s eligibility for relief turns on
    his credibility.” Maj. op. at 24–25. Asylum and withholding
    cases inherently turn on credibility because the petitioner
    must persuade the IJ that he will be subject to persecution if
    he returns to his home country. Oshodi’s case is, in fact,
    typical: He alleges incidents of persecution and violence
    directed against him and his family in a distant land, maj. op.
    5–7, and seeks to avoid deportation to a country riven by
    strife, id. at 6, 7. My colleagues and I have seen similar
    claims in countless cases that litter the pages of the Federal
    Reporter and, even more, the Federal Appendix. See, e.g.,
    Mendoza-Pablo v. Holder, 
    667 F.3d 1308
    , 1314–15 (9th Cir.
    2012); Li v. Holder, 
    559 F.3d 1096
    , 1110–12 (9th Cir. 2009);
    Akinshina v. Gonzales, 161 Fed. App’x 694 (9th Cir. 2006);
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                       41
    David v. Gonzales, 159 Fed. App’x 754 (9th Cir. 2005);
    Mashiri v. Ashcroft, 
    383 F.3d 1112
    , 1119–21 (9th Cir. 2004).
    The majority opinion here directly contravenes the Supreme
    Court's holdings in Mallen and Perales.
    Nor can this holding be confined to the immigration
    context. The majority holds that the Constitution gives
    would-be immigrants a right to unfettered oral testimony.
    There’s no credible way we can deny that right to American
    citizens in the multitude of other administrative contexts that
    involve credibility. Starting today, anyone in the Ninth
    Circuit involved in “any contested administrative hearing”—
    from the Social Security disability claimant to the
    unemployment benefits seeker to the zoning applicant—has
    a right to present full oral testimony without impediment so
    long as “credibility is a determinative factor.” Maj. op. 13.
    By injecting due process where the Supreme Court has
    said it doesn’t belong, the majority provides a blueprint for
    the imposition of trial-like procedures on a wide swath of
    administrative proceedings. All of this disregards the
    Supreme Court’s steadfast refusal to hold that the procedural
    protections that attend a trial are necessary to ensure
    fundamental fairness in administrative hearings. See, e.g.,
    Memphis Light, Gas & Water Div. v. Craft, 
    436 U.S. 1
    ,
    18–19 (1978); Bd. of Curators of the Univ. of Mo. v.
    Horowitz, 
    435 U.S. 78
    , 84–86 (1978).
    The Supreme Court first announced that an alien facing
    removal is entitled to an “opportunity to be heard upon the
    questions involving his right to be and remain in the United
    States” in The Japanese Immigrant Case, 
    189 U.S. 86
    , 101
    (1903). What kind of hearing did the Supreme Court have in
    mind? “[N]ot necessarily an opportunity upon a regular, set
    42                   OSHODI V. HOLDER
    occasion, and according to the forms of judicial procedure,
    but one that will secure the prompt, vigorous action
    contemplated by Congress, and at the same time be
    appropriate to the nature of the case upon which such officers
    are required to act.” 
    Id.
     As far back as 1903, then, the Court
    made clear that due process in this context can be satisfied
    with something far less formal than a hearing that conforms
    “to the forms of judicial procedure.”
    To determine whether a particular procedure is
    constitutionally required in removal proceedings, we must
    balance the various interests at stake. Mathews v. Eldridge,
    
    424 U.S. 319
    , 335 (1976); see also Landon v. Plasencia, 
    459 U.S. 21
    , 34–35 (1982). The majority begins its balancing in
    a curious way: by telling us that it’s meaningless because
    we’ve already found there’s a constitutional right to present
    oral testimony in removal proceedings. The case that
    supposedly established this right, Colmenar v. INS, 
    210 F.3d 967
     (9th Cir. 2000), found a denial of due process when the
    IJ announced that he’d made up his mind before the hearing
    began, “behaved . . . as a partisan adjudicator seeking to
    intimidate,” and refused to allow the petitioner to testify to
    clearly relevant matters not covered in his written application.
    
    Id. at 971
    . So Colmenar has little in common with our case
    and, in any event, didn’t engage in a Mathews balancing. It
    rested instead on a single BIA case that had nothing to do
    with due process. 
    Id.
     at 971–72 (discussing Matter of Fefe,
    
    20 I. & N. Dec. 116
    , 118 (BIA 1989)).
    Having already figured out the right answer, my
    colleagues grudgingly go about showing their work. Under
    Mathews, we must balance (1) the private interest at stake; (2)
    “the risk of an erroneous deprivation of such interest through
    the procedures used, and the probable value, if any, of
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                        43
    additional . . . safeguards”; and (3) the government’s interest,
    which includes the burdens imposed by more process.
    Mathews, 
    424 U.S. at 335
    . I’m willing to indulge the
    majority’s assumption that the first factor weighs in favor of
    the immigrant, although I rather suspect that many asylum
    applicants and their lawyers would dearly love to have an
    excuse to avoid testifying without creating an adverse
    inference. But the majority’s perfunctory examination of the
    benefit of additional procedural safeguards and the burden
    those procedures will impose falls far short of the rigorous
    analysis we must conduct when determining constitutional
    rights.
    Sufficiency of existing procedures. The existing
    procedures give the alien substantial protections. The alien
    first submits a written application for withholding of removal,
    and then gets a hearing at which he has the right to present
    evidence; call his own witnesses; and cross-examine adverse
    witnesses. See 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(B); 
    8 C.F.R. §§ 1240.10
    (a)(4), 1240.11(c)(3)(iii). Should he require
    documents not readily available to him, he may apply to the
    immigration judge for a subpoena.              See 
    8 C.F.R. § 1003.35
    (b)(1). He has the privilege of being represented by
    counsel. See 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(A). After the hearing,
    the alien may be permitted to submit additional briefing to
    supplement his file. See Somakoko v. Gonzales, 
    399 F.3d 882
    , 883 (8th Cir. 2005).
    The majority argues that full oral testimony is necessary
    because “Mathews teaches us” it’s required in “cases that
    hinge on credibility.” Maj. op. 26. If so, it’s a lesson the
    Supreme Court has not yet learned. See, e.g., Mackey v.
    Montrym, 
    443 U.S. 1
    , 24 (1979) (Stewart, J., dissenting)
    (decrying majority’s decision not to require a hearing where
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    issues “plainly involve[d] . . . credibility and veracity”). Live
    testimony simply isn’t a constitutional prerequisite to making
    a credibility determination in an administrative proceeding.
    In an effort to prove otherwise, the majority cherry-picks
    language from a handful of criminal cases. Maj. op. 18. But
    the cases themselves merely recognize the value of oral
    testimony in certain narrow contexts. See, e.g., United
    States v. Thoms, 
    684 F.3d 893
    , 903 (9th Cir. 2012) (“[A]
    district court abuses its discretion when it reverses a
    magistrate judge’s credibility determinations, made after
    receiving live testimony and favorable to the government,
    without viewing key demeanor evidence, with one exception
    . . . .”). Equally unpersuasive is the majority’s assertion that
    Anderson v. Bessemer City, 
    470 U.S. 564
     (1985) stands for
    the proposition that special deference is owed a trial court’s
    credibility determinations because it is best able to evaluate
    demeanor during live testimony. Maj. op. 19. Anderson, in
    fact, stands for the contrary proposition: We apply the same
    deferential standard “even when the district court’s findings
    do not rest on credibility determinations” because the
    “rationale for deference to the original finder of fact is not
    limited to the superiority of the trial judge’s position to make
    determinations of credibility.” Anderson, 
    470 U.S. at 574
    .
    My colleagues are so busy stringing together out-of-
    context quotes that they overlook that the IJ has other reliable
    means of assessing credibility. For one, the alien may
    introduce written evidence to corroborate his declaration,
    including news accounts, reports from doctors and letters
    from family and friends. See 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(B). The
    regulations also require the IJ to place the alien under oath
    and question him about the truth of his application. 
    8 C.F.R. § 1240.11
    (c)(3)(iii). We have long recognized that cross-
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    examination, by both the immigration judge and the
    government’s lawyer, is a powerful engine for detecting the
    truth of an alien’s testimony. Indeed, cross-examination is far
    more important than direct examination. Most people can tell
    a convincing tale under friendly questioning by their own
    lawyers, but surviving a stringent cross-examination is what
    really matters in establishing credibility. See Singh-Kaur v.
    INS, 
    183 F.3d 1147
    , 1151 (9th Cir. 1999); see also Abovian
    v. INS, 
    257 F.3d 971
    , 977 (9th Cir. 2001) (Kozinski, J.,
    dissental). The statutory right to submit records, coupled
    with some oral colloquy between the alien and the IJ,
    guarantees the alien a reasonable opportunity to present
    evidence bearing on his credibility.
    Given the multitude of tools available for the petitioner to
    establish his credibility and prove up his story, the ability to
    present live direct testimony during a removal proceeding
    strikes me as relatively unimportant. Judge Friendly, in his
    seminal article cited approvingly by the Supreme Court in
    Mathews, spoke directly to this issue:
    I would object to requiring oral presentation
    as a universal rule. Determination whether or
    not an oral hearing is required should depend
    on the susceptibility of the particular subject
    matter to written presentation, on the ability
    of the complainant to understand the case
    against him and to present his arguments
    effectively in written form, and on the
    administrative costs.
    Henry J. Friendly, Some Kind of Hearing, 
    123 U. Pa. L. Rev. 1267
    , 1281 (1975).
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    Judge Posner, who is no fan of immigration judges, has
    noted the insignificance of oral testimony in immigration
    cases:
    The fact that [petitioner] was testifying
    through an interpreter has a significance that
    my colleagues do not appreciate when they
    say that “The IJ spent 6 hours in a hearing
    room, face to face, with [petitioner]. We have
    never met her.” I take this to be an allusion to
    the common though not necessarily correct
    belief that being present when a witness
    testifies greatly assists a judge or juror in
    determining whether the witness is telling the
    truth. Even if so in general, it cannot be so
    when the witness is a foreigner testifying
    through an interpreter, especially if the judge
    cannot even hear the foreigner, but only the
    interpreter. Reading the facial expressions or
    body language of a foreigner for signs of lying
    is not a skill that either we or [the IJ] possess.
    Apouviepseakoda v. Gonzales, 
    475 F.3d 881
    , 897 (7th Cir.
    2007) (Posner, J., dissenting).
    Whether seeing a witness testify live is critical to judging
    his credibility is, as Judge Posner says, debatable. The pre-
    eminent civil procedure treatise suggests that “[p]erhaps . . .
    the entire American reliance on demeanor is misplaced.”
    12 Charles Alan Wright & Arthur R. Miller, Federal Practice
    and Procedure § 3070.2 (2d ed. 1997); see also Morales v.
    Artuz, 
    281 F.3d 55
    , 61 & nn.3–4 (2d Cir. 2002) (noting
    empirical studies have refuted belief that “demeanor is a
    useful basis for assessing credibility”). Observing a witness
    OSHODI V. HOLDER                         47
    who communicates through the cumbersome intermediation
    of an interpreter, or even simply grew up in a different
    culture, can be downright misleading. See Li, 
    559 F.3d at
    1100 n.4 (9th Cir. 2009) (attributing seeming inconsistencies
    in an alien’s testimony to “numerous translation difficulties”);
    Kadia v. Gonzales, 
    501 F.3d 817
    , 819 (7th Cir. 2007)
    (Posner, J.) (noting that “immigration judges often lack the
    ‘cultural competence’ to base credibility determinations on an
    immigrant’s demeanor”); Dia v. Ashcroft, 
    353 F.3d 228
    , 276
    (3d Cir. 2003) (en banc) (McKee, J., dissenting in part)
    (“[W]hile the failure to look someone in the eye while
    speaking is usually interpreted as an indication of deception
    by people in Western cultures, avoiding eye contact has a
    very different meaning in some other cultures.”); Chouchkov
    v. INS, 
    220 F.3d 1077
    , 1083 n.15 (9th Cir. 2000) (“[W]hat
    sounds peculiar in one country may be the norm in another.”);
    Barapind v. Rogers, No. 96-55541, 
    1997 WL 267881
    , at *2
    (9th Cir. Feb. 6, 1997) (holding IJ’s belief that petitioner’s
    “stoic” demeanor indicated dishonesty was the result of
    cultural bias). In light of the other mechanisms available to
    the IJ for detecting whether the petitioner is telling the truth
    or lying, I can’t say that allowing a petitioner to drone on
    endlessly, restating every word and every line of his asylum
    application, is particularly significant to affording him a fair
    opportunity to present his case.
    Burdens imposed by additional procedures. Here
    again my colleagues disregard what Mathews requires: a full
    balancing of all of the interests at stake. Instead, the majority
    asserts the burden on the government is “minimal” because
    it is merely being ordered to follow “the governing rules and
    regulations.” Maj. op. 27. What “governing rules and
    regulations”? The majority cites none. It does cite Matter of
    Fefe, but that case doesn’t purport to give asylum applicants
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    an unfettered right to testify. See 20 I. & N. Dec. at 118. In
    Fefe, the BIA “anticipate[d]” a thorough examination of
    applicants in most cases, but established no right to present
    testimony in every case. Id.
    Had the majority given more than cursory attention to this
    factor, it would have noted that immigration judges decided
    an average of 1,014 cases each in 2008, a pace that would
    make any judge’s head spin. See Improving Efficiency and
    Ensuring Justice in the Immigration Court System: Hr’g
    Before the S. Comm. on the Judiciary, 112th Cong. 3 (2011)
    (statement of Karen T. Grisez, Am. Bar Ass’n Comm’n on
    Immigration). “To produce these numbers, each judge must
    have issued an average of at least 19 decisions each week, or
    approximately four decisions per weekday, . . . even while
    assuming no absences for vacation, illness, training, or
    conference participation.” Id.
    Let’s say that the IJ here had decided to manage his
    Sisyphean caseload by instructing aliens that they could not
    repeat anything already in their written submissions, but
    could testify on direct only as to new material, before
    undergoing cross-examination. Or let’s say that the Attorney
    General by regulation provided that aliens must submit all of
    their evidence in writing, and must appear at an oral hearing
    only to be cross-examined as to the details of their stories.
    What then?
    The Supreme Court has told us that we cannot judge the
    propriety of any such procedure in the abstract, but must
    consider the costs and burdens imposed on the system if the
    IJ is not permitted to follow these streamlined procedures:
    “[T]he Government’s interest, and hence that of the public, in
    conserving scarce fiscal and administrative resources is a
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    factor that must be weighed.” Mathews, 
    424 U.S. at 348
    .
    Giving IJs discretion to preclude direct testimony would
    significantly shorten the time devoted to each hearing and, in
    the aggregate, considerably speed up the process of
    adjudicating petitions for immigration relief. It’s easy for us
    to say, “Let them hire more IJs,” but in this era of cutbacks
    and sequestrations, when U.S. citizens are feeling the
    consequences of dwindling federal resources, the government
    will not ramp up the budget for helping undocumented aliens
    gain a legal foothold in the United States.
    The majority ignores these considerations and merrily
    piles on more process, but it’s aliens with meritorious claims
    who will suffer for it. Applicants for asylum and similar
    relief wait an average of 550 days for a decision from the
    immigration court, 660 if they’re in California. See Suzy
    Khimm, Many Immigrants Facing Deportation Must Wait
    550 Days For Their Day In Court, WashingtonPost.com (Feb.
    22, 2013). These delays are a boon to aliens who make
    flimsy claims in an effort to forestall their inevitable removal,
    but they hurt aliens scarred by persecution whose lives are on
    hold as they wait to secure a future in the United States.
    While overstating the virtues of oral testimony, my
    colleagues forget that prompt adjudication of claims is a
    component of fundamental fairness. See 2 Richard J. Pierce,
    Jr., Administrative Law Treatise § 9.10, at 894 (5th ed. 2010).
    3. Even if due process required that an alien be allowed
    to “testify fully,” as the majority wrongly holds, Oshodi can’t
    prevail unless he was prejudiced by being denied this right.
    Cinapian v. Holder, 
    567 F.3d 1067
    , 1074 (9th Cir. 2009).
    The majority recites our circuit’s questionable prejudice test,
    which allows aliens to meet their burdens by demonstrating
    that “the outcome of the proceeding may have been affected”
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    by the due process violation. Zolotukhin v. Gonzales, 
    417 F.3d 1073
    , 1076 (9th Cir. 2005). That’s right: Around here,
    an alien can demonstrate prejudice by showing a mere
    possibility that the error influenced the result. This is no
    standard at all. One can seldom say with confidence that a
    little more testimony would not have affected the outcome.
    See 
    id. at 1077
    .
    In our circuit, aliens in removal proceedings have an
    easier time showing prejudice than do criminal defendants,
    who must demonstrate at least “a reasonable possibility” that
    the constitutional errors at their trial contributed to their
    conviction, see Chapman v. California, 
    386 U.S. 18
    , 23
    (1967), and a much easier time than habeas petitioners facing
    execution, who must show such errors had a “substantial and
    injurious effect” on the verdict, see Brecht v. Abrahamson,
    
    507 U.S. 619
    , 637 (1993). We have it exactly backwards:
    Citizens facing loss of life or liberty and the stigma of a
    criminal conviction should get greater procedural protection
    than foreign nationals seeking to escape deportation from the
    United States.
    Not surprisingly, our prejudice standard is an outlier
    among the circuits, most of which require a substantial
    probability that the alleged due process violation swayed the
    outcome of the removal proceeding. See Denis v. Att’y Gen.
    of the United States, 
    633 F.3d 201
    , 219 (3rd Cir. 2011)
    (“substantial prejudice”); Zhou Zheng v. Holder, 
    570 F.3d 438
    , 442 (1st Cir. 2009) (“likely to have affected the outcome
    of the proceedings”); Lin v. Holder, 
    565 F.3d 971
    , 979 (6th
    Cir. 2009) (“substantial prejudice”); Avila v. U.S. Att’y Gen.,
    
    560 F.3d 1281
    , 1285 (11th Cir. 2009) (“would have affected
    the outcome of the case”). As we are sitting en banc, we
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    should overrule Zolotukhin and bring our standard into line
    with the majority view.
    But Oshodi loses even under our watered-down prejudice
    standard. The majority speculates that the immigration judge
    might have found Oshodi credible had he been permitted to
    testify about the “brutal torture” he suffered in Nigeria. Maj.
    op. 13. This makes no sense at all. Why would testifying
    about torture be more believable than testifying about
    anything else? Oshodi’s testimony was riddled with evasions
    and inconsistencies, and he had a long record of dishonesty.
    Additional testimony could do nothing to cure the problems
    the IJ correctly perceived in the testimony Oshodi had already
    delivered.
    Oshodi claimed to have entered the United States on a
    business visa, then admitted to entering illegally for a little
    while before rehashing the story about the business visa once
    again. He told an immigration officer that he feared
    persecution in Nigeria because of his “dad’s” political
    advocacy, but then maintained on cross that it was his
    “grandad’s” activism that placed him in danger. He claimed
    to own significant land in Nigeria, then conceded it was not
    in his name. Oshodi’s brother was sitting in the courtroom,
    yet, as the IJ noted, Oshodi didn’t ask him to corroborate any
    of these contested details about his family or personal history.
    Additionally, Oshodi acknowledged his arrests for passing
    bad checks, giving false information to a police officer and
    killing a woman in a drunk driving accident. The IJ was
    especially troubled that Oshodi was convicted for this last
    offense under a false name, one of several that he employed,
    allegedly to avoid detection by Nigerian spies monitoring his
    whereabouts in the United States. The IJ also pointed to
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    numerous other discrepancies and evasions in Oshodi’s
    testimony.
    The majority sniffs that these inconsistencies concern
    “peripheral issues,” but my colleagues are stuck in a pre-
    REAL ID Act time warp. The Act permits IJs to assess
    credibility based on any inconsistency or falsehood,
    regardless of whether it “goes to the heart of the applicant’s
    claim.” See 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1158
    (b)(1)(B)(iii), 1231(b)(3)(C);
    see also Shrestha v. Holder, 
    590 F.3d 1034
    , 1043 (9th Cir.
    2010). The logic behind the statute is the same that animates
    Federal Rule of Evidence 609(a)(2), which permits
    impeachment of any witness with past crimes involving
    dishonesty or falsity, such as passing bad checks and lying to
    police. Lie once, lie again: If an alien is willing to fudge
    small details, Congress has said, the IJ may infer he’s also
    willing to fabricate a history of abuse to avoid removal from
    the United States. “[A] man with a criminal background
    [may indeed] also face severe persecution in his home
    country,” maj. op. 30 n.15, but a man who is caught telling
    tales can’t rehabilitate himself by telling more tales. After so
    much dishonesty, Oshodi could have recounted the torture of
    Gloucester in King Lear and it would have done him no good.
    The rampant inconsistencies in Oshodi’s testimony and
    his long record of dishonesty and lawlessness amply support
    the IJ’s adverse credibility finding. See Malkandi v. Holder,
    
    576 F.3d 906
    , 912 (9th Cir. 2009). That’s all we need to
    know to deny the petition and uphold the agency’s decision.
    *           *          *
    Today’s ruling impairs the ability of immigration judges
    to manage their crushing caseload, and benefits fabulists and
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    charlatans at the expense of the real victims of persecution.
    It disregards Supreme Court precedent and takes a giant step
    towards importing the Constitution into the realm of
    administrative procedure. I can’t say precisely where my
    colleagues’ ill-conceived constitutional venture will end, but
    it will be nowhere good. I’ll have none of it.
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    Appendix
    The IJ’s credibility findings in Oshodi’s case:
    The Court finds the testimony of the
    expert witness, Professor James Mitchell,
    credible and worthy of significant weight.
    However, although the respondent provided a
    very detailed declaration as to his claim, is
    college educated and mature in years, there
    were numerous contradictory matters and
    inconsistent statements, as well as omissions
    from his claim which undermine his
    credibility. At the onset, the respondent’s
    acknowledged use of made up false names all
    cast doubt upon his forthrightness. For
    instance, the respondent claimed that he
    informed the court that convicted him of
    “Vehicular Manslaughter while Intoxicated”
    of his true name, but yet it is not the name
    under which he is convicted.
    The respondent’s brother was sitting in
    Court during the entire proceeding, and even
    though the respondent was represented by
    counsel, the respondent never called his
    brother to testify. The respondent surely
    knew that the entirety of his identity and
    claimed problems owing to his activities and
    family were certainly in dispute. Not only did
    the respondent’s brother not testify, he failed
    to submit an affidavit. At the very least, the
    respondent’s brother could have testified as to
    the respondent’s clan or ethnic tribe, who the
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    respondent’s mother was and her political
    involvement in Nigeria, who the respondent’s
    father was and whether he is living or
    deceased, whether other family members had
    been granted asylum in the United States as
    the respondent claimed, and any problems that
    he may be aware of as experienced by the
    respondent. These inconsistencies concerning
    the respondent’s family undermine the
    respondent’s claim that he is who he says he
    is.
    Other aspects of his testimony undercut
    his credibility. The respondent complained
    that he learned a substantial amount of his
    property was confiscated in Nigeria. Later,
    the respondent admitted that the properties
    were not in his name and that the deed was
    never transferred. The lands are actually part
    of an estate for his half-siblings.
    The respondent also failed to satisfactorily
    explain whether his father was living or
    deceased.    The testimony of Professor
    Mitchell seems to indicate that in his
    conversations with the respondent, that to the
    best of the Professor’s recollection, the
    respondent indicated that he is estranged from
    his father, but that the father is living in
    southern California. Also, the respondent
    testified that, in a sworn Q&A with
    immigration authorities, he claimed he feared
    harm in Nigeria, not because of his mother as
    he lists as one of the reasons on his
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    application, but because of his “dad.” This is
    in conflict with the respondent’s previous
    testimony, when he stated that his father had
    no political involvement. In an attempt to
    explain the inconsistency, the respondent
    denied that the sworn statement taken by
    immigration officials was true, saying that the
    transcription is not in his handwriting, and the
    only mention during the Q&A was his
    “grandad” or grandfather.           He further
    explained, that although he admitted to
    initialing the statement, he was not given a
    chance to read it. However, the Q&A
    transcript had been admitted into evidence
    without objection.           In addition, the
    respondent’s explanation would be
    undermined, as his asylum application does
    not cite to his grandfather as a basis for his
    fear of returning to Nigeria at all.
    There were also notable omissions and
    discrepancies between the respondent’s
    application and his testimony.               The
    respondent’s application failed to list all ten
    siblings, and where they live. The respondent
    expressed confusion because some of his
    siblings are half-siblings. However, his claim
    of confusion is undermined, as three of the
    respondent’s four siblings in the United States
    are half-siblings, and yet he listed three on his
    application. The respondent also failed to
    mention all of his siblings legally in the
    United States when he was questioned by the
    Court on February 6, 2006, saying that he had
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    only two brothers and one sister.
    Furthermore, the respondent did not list any of
    the siblings out of the United States on his
    application and he failed to disclose that one
    sister still lives in Nigeria.           These
    inconsistencies and discrepancies between his
    testimony and application further undermine
    his credibility.
    Moreover, when the Court asked the
    respondent about his father, he claimed that
    his father had regularly come and gone from
    Nigeria. This statement goes to the heart of at
    least one aspect of the respondent’s claim,
    because the respondent indicated that having
    the family name “Oshodi,” is a clear identifier
    as to what family he is from, as it is a very
    prominent name, but not common. His
    application lists his father as having the same
    last name. If that is true, and he is living and
    could come and go from Nigeria without
    problems, that certainly has a bearing on the
    respondent’s claim that he would be identified
    and detained in Nigeria because of his name.
    Considering that the respondent’s identity is
    already in question, his overall credibility is
    undermined by his use of aliases, and his
    inconsistencies appear as intentional
    omissions, the Court finds that he should
    provide evidence that corroborates this
    testimony.
    Decision & Order of the Immigration Judge at 9–11, May 26,
    2006.