Miguel Orellana v. William Barr ( 2020 )


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  •                      FOR PUBLICATION
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    MIGUEL ANGEL ORELLANA,                             No. 19-70164
    Petitioner,
    Agency No.
    v.                            A072-937-494
    WILLIAM P. BARR, Attorney General,
    Respondent.                   OPINION
    On Petition for Review of an Order of the
    Board of Immigration Appeals
    Submitted May 6, 2020 *
    Pasadena, California
    Filed July 28, 2020
    Before: MILAN D. SMITH, JR., JOHN B. OWENS, and
    DANIEL A. BRESS, Circuit Judges.
    Opinion by Judge Milan D. Smith, Jr.;
    Concurrence by Judge Owens
    *
    The panel unanimously concludes this case is suitable for decision
    without oral argument. See Fed. R. App. P. 34(a)(2).
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    SUMMARY **
    Immigration
    Denying Miguel Orellana’s petition for review of a
    decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals, the panel held
    that 1) a conviction for criminal stalking, in violation of
    California Penal Code (CPC) § 646.9(a), is categorically a
    crime involving moral turpitude (CIMT); and 2) the BIA
    reasonably concluded that Orellana’s two § 646.9(a) counts
    of conviction did not arise out of single scheme of criminal
    misconduct, and therefore, made him removable.
    Reviewing the statute of conviction de novo, the panel
    first concluded that the BIA did not err in identifying the
    elements of a § 646.9(a) offense. Next, comparing the
    elements of the statute with the federal definition of a CIMT,
    the panel concluded that the BIA did not err in concluding
    that Orellana’s § 646.9(a) conviction is a CIMT. The panel
    observed that this court has defined a CIMT as involving
    either fraud or base, vile, and depraved conduct that shocks
    the public conscience, and that CIMTs generally involve
    some evil intent.
    The panel explained that the BIA’s reliance on its
    published decision in In re Ajami, 
    22 I. & N. Dec. 949
    (B.I.A. 1999), was not entitled to deference under Chevron,
    U.S.A., Inc. v. Nat. Res. Def. Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
    (1984), because Ajami did not interpret § 646.9(a).
    Nonetheless, the panel concluded that the BIA’s reliance on
    **
    This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It
    has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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    Ajami was entitled to deference under Skidmore v. Swift &
    Co., 
    323 U.S. 134
     (1944), explaining that: 1) in Ajami, the
    BIA determined that the offense was a CIMT because it
    involved transmission of threats, thus evincing a vicious
    motive or a corrupt mind; and 2) § 646.9(a) prohibits
    conduct that is materially identical to the offense in Ajami.
    The panel also concluded that there was not a “realistic
    probability” that the statute applies to conduct that is not
    morally turpitudinous because all the conduct that § 646.9(a)
    criminalizes is morally turpitudinous. The panel explained
    that § 646.9(a) was more similar to the criminal threat statute
    held to be a CIMT in Latter-Singh v. Holder, 
    668 F.3d 1156
    (9th Cir. 2012), than statutes this court has held are not
    CIMTs. The panel explained that § 646.9(a), like the statute
    in Latter-Singh, criminalizes only credible threats that cause
    the targeted person to reasonably fear for his or her safety or
    his or her family’s safety, threats made with the apparent
    ability to carry out the threat, and threats specifically
    intended to cause such fear in the targeted person. Further,
    the panel concluded that, although § 646.9(a) does not
    expressly require the threat of death or bodily injury (as does
    the statute in Latter-Singh), the BIA was entitled to place
    greater emphasis on the evil intent or corrupt mind required
    by § 646.9(a).
    The panel also held that the BIA reasonably concluded
    that Orellana’s two § 646.9(a) counts of conviction did not
    arise out of a single scheme of criminal conduct, and
    therefore, made him removable under 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii). The panel explained that the BIA’s
    determination accorded with its precedential decision in
    Matter of Adetiba, 
    20 I. & N. Dec. 506
     (B.I.A. 1992), to
    which the court accords Chevron deference. Further, the
    panel upheld the BIA’s determination for the additional
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    reason that the conclusion aligned with this court’s decision
    in Leon-Hernandez v. U.S. I.N.S., 
    926 F.2d 902
     (9th Cir.
    1991), which recognized a rebuttable presumption of
    separate crimes created by the fact that the crimes were
    committed on different dates.
    Concurring, Judge Owens joined the majority opinion in
    full because it correctly applied the law as it now stands, but
    wrote separately to express his view that the court’s current
    CIMT approach is, in the words of his Grandpa Harold,
    “dumb, dumb, dumb.” He wrote that other judges share that
    view and that a smarter (and more just) approach would be
    to look to a more objective standard, such as the length of
    the underlying sentence, before deciding if someone should
    be removed.
    COUNSEL
    Rosana Kit Wai Cheung, Los Angeles, California, for
    Petitioner.
    Joseph H. Hunt, Assistant Attorney General; Stephen J.
    Flynn, Assistant Director; Robert Michael Stalzer, Trial
    Attorney; Office of Immigration Litigation, Civil Division,
    United States Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; for
    Respondent.
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    OPINION
    M. SMITH, Circuit Judge:
    Petitioner Miguel Orellana is a native and citizen of El
    Salvador who became a lawful permanent resident of the
    United States. Decades after his admission to the United
    States, he was convicted of two counts of criminal stalking
    in violation of California Penal Code § 646.9(a) for which
    he received a one-year term of imprisonment. In relevant
    part, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) charged
    him with being removable as an alien who committed two
    crimes involving moral turpitude (CIMT) not arising out of
    a single scheme of criminal conduct after admission to the
    United States.       
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii).       An
    immigration judge (IJ) concluded that Orellana was
    removable as charged. The Board of Immigration Appeals
    (BIA) affirmed. Orellana petitioned for our review.
    We hold that the BIA did not err in concluding that a
    § 646.9(a) criminal stalking conviction is a CIMT because a
    § 646.9(a) offense is categorically a CIMT. We hold further
    that the BIA reasonably concluded that Orellana’s two
    § 646.9(a) counts of conviction did not arise out of a single
    scheme of criminal misconduct. Thus, we deny the petition.
    BACKGROUND
    Orellana has resided in the United States since 1986. He
    obtained lawful permanent resident status in 1997. Twenty
    years later, a California state court convicted him in 2017 of
    two counts of criminal stalking in violation of § 646.9(a)
    pursuant to a plea of nolo contendere and sentenced him to
    365 days of imprisonment with 224 days in credit.
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    After he served the remainder of his sentence, DHS took
    Orellana into custody. DHS served Orellana with a notice to
    appear (NTA), charging him with being removable pursuant
    to 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(E)(i) as an alien convicted of the
    crime of stalking after entry.          Orellana conceded
    removability through counsel and sought cancellation of
    removal, which the IJ denied. On appeal to the BIA,
    Orellana moved to remand in light of an intervening decision
    in which the BIA had concluded that a § 646.9(a) offense is
    not a categorical match with the federal crime of stalking.1
    Matter of Sanchez-Lopez, 
    27 I. & N. Dec. 256
     (B.I.A. 2018).
    DHS moved to remand to lodge a new charge of
    removability. On remand, DHS charged Orellana as
    removable as an alien convicted of two CIMTs not arising
    out of a single scheme of criminal misconduct. Orellana
    argued that DHS could not prove removability. 2 The IJ
    determined that a § 646.9(a) criminal stalking offense is
    categorically a CIMT and the two § 646.9(a) counts did not
    arise out of a single scheme of criminal misconduct. The
    BIA affirmed in an unpublished decision. Orellana timely
    petitioned for review.
    1
    The BIA construed the federal crime of stalking in
    § 1227(a)(2)(E)(i) to require “the intent to cause that individual or a
    member of his or her immediate family to be placed in fear of bodily
    injury or death.” Matter of Sanchez-Lopez, 
    26 I. & N. Dec. 71
    , 76 (B.I.A.
    2012). The BIA reversed its conclusion that § 646.9(a) is a categorical
    match with that crime because § 646.9(a) is not textually limited to
    threats of death or bodily injury. Matter of Sanchez-Lopez, 27 I. & N. at
    260–61.
    2
    Orellana also moved to terminate proceedings for lack of
    jurisdiction pursuant to Pereira v. Sessions, 
    138 S. Ct. 2105
     (2018),
    because the original NTA lacked the date and time of his first hearing.
    The IJ denied that motion. Orellana did not appeal that denial to the BIA.
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    JURISDICTION AND STANDARD OF REVIEW
    We have jurisdiction pursuant to 
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    . With
    the exception of constitutional claims and questions of law,
    we lack jurisdiction to review a final order of removal
    against an alien who is removable for having committed two
    CIMTs not arising out of a single scheme of criminal
    misconduct when a sentence of one year or longer may be
    imposed on each offense. 3 
    8 U.S.C. §§ 1252
    (a)(2)(C), (D);
    Planes v. Holder, 
    652 F.3d 991
    , 998 (9th Cir. 2011).
    Whether a crime involves moral turpitude is a question of
    law that we review de novo. Navarro-Lopez v. Gonzales,
    
    503 F.3d 1063
    , 1067 (9th Cir. 2007) (en banc), overruled in
    part on other grounds by, Ceron v. Holder, 
    747 F.3d 773
    ,
    782 n.2 (9th Cir. 2014) (en banc). Questions of law include
    the application of law to undisputed or established facts.
    Guerrero-Lasprilla v. Barr, 
    140 S. Ct. 1062
    , 1067 (2020).
    ANALYSIS
    I. A § 646.9(a) Criminal Stalking Conviction is
    Categorically a CIMT
    The threshold issue we must decide is whether the BIA
    erred in concluding that a § 646.9(a) criminal stalking
    offense is a CIMT. We have not addressed in a precedential
    decision whether a criminal stalking offense qualifies as a
    3
    Our assessment of whether Orellana was removable as charged
    pursuant to § 1227(a)(2)(A)(ii) collapses an assessment of jurisdiction
    into the merits. Chavez-Perez v. Ashcroft, 
    386 F.3d 1284
    , 1287 (9th Cir.
    2004).
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    CIMT 4, nor are we aware of a decision by any of our sister
    circuits doing so.
    To determine whether a § 646.9(a) conviction is a CIMT,
    our analysis “involves two steps, to which different
    standards of review apply.” Castrijon-Garcia v. Holder,
    
    704 F.3d 1205
    , 1208 (9th Cir. 2013) (citation, internal
    quotation marks, and brackets omitted), overruled in part on
    other grounds by, Ceron, 747 F.3d at 782 n.2. First, we
    determine the elements of the underlying crime, reviewing
    de novo because the BIA “‘has no special expertise by virtue
    of its statutory responsibilities in construing state or federal
    criminal statutes.’” Uppal v. Holder, 
    605 F.3d 712
    , 714 (9th
    Cir. 2010) (quoting Marmolejo-Campos v. Holder, 
    558 F.3d 903
    , 907 (9th Cir. 2009) (en banc)). If the BIA errs in
    determining the elements of the offense, “we owe its CIMT
    analysis at step two no deference.” Hernandez-Cruz v.
    Holder, 
    651 F.3d 1094
    , 1106 (9th Cir. 2011). Second, we
    compare the elements of the statute of conviction with the
    federal definition of a CIMT. Fugow v. Barr, 
    943 F.3d 456
    ,
    458 (9th Cir. 2019) (per curiam). An offense is categorically
    a CIMT if, when looking only to the fact of conviction and
    the statutory definition of the offense, the full range of
    conduct the statute proscribes matches the generic definition
    of a CIMT. Galeana-Mendoza v. Gonzales, 
    465 F.3d 1054
    ,
    1057–58 (9th Cir. 2006). But “[i]f there is a ‘realistic
    probability’ that the statute of conviction would be applied
    to non-turpitudinous conduct, there is no categorical match.”
    4
    In Zavaleta-Gallegos v. INS, 
    261 F.3d 951
    , 955 (9th Cir. 2001),
    the alien petitioner conceded that his § 646.9 stalking offense, which
    included a § 646.9(b) penalty, was a CIMT. Thus, we did not decide
    whether the offense was a CIMT. More recently, a panel of our court
    issued a nonprecedential disposition, which held that the BIA reasonably
    concluded that a § 646.9(a) conviction is categorically a CIMT. Raya-
    Moreno v. Holder, 504 F. App’x 589, 591 (9th Cir. 2013).
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    Fugow, 943 F.3d at 458. We defer to the BIA’s conclusion
    at the second step “following the Chevron framework if the
    decision is published or directly controlled by a published
    decision[.]” Ceron, 747 F.3d at 778; see also Chevron,
    U.S.A., Inc. v. Nat. Res. Def. Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
    (1984). The Skidmore framework applies “if the decision is
    unpublished (and not directly controlled by any published
    decision interpreting the same statute).” Uppal, 605 F.3d
    at 714; see also Skidmore v. Swift & Co., 
    323 U.S. 134
    (1944). “If neither applies, we review de novo.” Vasquez-
    Valle v. Sessions, 
    899 F.3d 834
    , 838 (9th Cir. 2018).
    A. The Elements of California Penal Code § 646.9(a)
    Pursuant to California law, one commits the crime of
    stalking if one “willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly
    follows, or willfully and maliciously harasses another person
    and . . . makes a credible threat with the intent to place that
    person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety
    of his or her immediate family[.]” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a). 5 The offense has been distilled into three
    elements. People v. Uecker, 
    91 Cal. Rptr. 3d 355
    , 364 (Ct.
    App. 2009); CALJIC 9.16.11 (jury instructions applicable to
    § 646.9(a) offenses committed after January 1, 2003).
    The first element is “willfully, maliciously, and
    repeatedly follow[ing] or willfully and maliciously
    harass[ing] another person[.]” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a)
    (emphasis added); Uecker, 91 Cal. Rptr. 3d at 364. The
    statute defines the term “harasses” to be “engages in a
    5
    The statute contains other provisions that enhance the penalty for
    a violation of § 646.9(a) depending on the presence of other factors. 
    Cal. Pen. Code § 646.9
    (b)–(c). A § 646.9(a) violation is a predicate for these
    enhancements.
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    knowing and willful course of conduct directed at a specific
    person that seriously alarms, annoys, torments, or terrorizes
    the person, and that serves no legitimate purpose.” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (e).         Excluding “[c]onstitutionally
    protected activity,” the statute defines “course of conduct”
    as “two or more acts occurring over a period of time,
    however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose.” 
    Id.
    § 646.9(f).
    The second element is “mak[ing] a credible threat.” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a); Uecker, 91 Cal. Rptr. 3d at 364. A
    “credible threat” is “a verbal or written threat, including that
    performed through the use of an electronic communication
    device, or a threat implied by a pattern of conduct or a
    combination of verbal, written, or electronically
    communicated statements and conduct . . . .” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (g). The threat must be “made with the
    apparent ability to carry out the threat so as to cause the
    person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for
    his or her safety or the safety of his or her family.” 
    Id.
    “Constitutionally protected activity is not included within
    the meaning of ‘credible threat.’” 
    Id.
    The third element is that a violator must make the
    credible threat with “the intent to place that person in
    reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or
    her immediate family.” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a); People
    v. Falck, 
    60 Cal. Rptr. 2d 624
    , 629 (Ct. App. 1997)
    (distinguishing the making of a credible threat from the
    “intent[] to place the victim in reasonable fear of his or her
    safety”); Uecker, 91 Cal. Rptr. 3d at 364 (same). “It is not
    necessary to prove that the defendant had the intent to
    actually carry out the threat.” 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (g).
    Orellana identifies no error at this step. Although the
    BIA did not analyze the statute extensively, the BIA
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    correctly identified the statute of conviction and its text. The
    BIA also relied on our nonprecedential disposition in Raya-
    Moreno, which thoroughly reviewed the elements. Thus, we
    find no error. See Latter-Singh v. Holder, 
    668 F.3d 1156
    ,
    1160 (9th Cir. 2012) (finding no error when “the BIA’s
    analysis is terse and exhibits ‘less than ideal clarity,’” yet
    enables the court to reasonably discern the agency’s path).
    B. Comparison of § 646.9(a)’s Elements with the
    Federal Definition
    We next compare the offense’s elements with the federal
    definition of a CIMT to determine whether the offense is a
    categorical match. Fugow, 943 F.3d at 458. The INA does
    not define the term “crime involving moral turpitude.” Id.
    at 457. We have observed that “‘[m]oral turpitude’ is
    perhaps the quintessential example of an ambiguous phrase.”
    Marmolejo-Campos, 
    558 F.3d at 909
    . We have defined a
    CIMT as involving “either fraud or base, vile, and depraved
    conduct that shocks the public conscience.” Nunez v.
    Holder, 
    594 F.3d 1124
    , 1131 (9th Cir. 2010) (internal
    quotation marks and brackets omitted), superseded in other
    part as stated by, Betansos v. Barr, 
    928 F.3d 1133
    , 1142 (9th
    Cir. 2019). We have also explained that “[CIMTs] generally
    involve some evil intent.” Castrijon-Garcia, 704 F.3d
    at 1213 (citation and internal quotation marks omitted).
    Notwithstanding our CIMT definition, we apply
    “traditional principles of administrative deference” when the
    BIA interprets an ambiguous INA phrase in its adjudication
    of a particular case. Marmolejo-Campos, 
    558 F.3d at
    910–
    11. Here, the BIA relied on its precedential decision in In re
    Ajami, 
    22 I. & N. Dec. 949
     (B.I.A. 1999) to conclude that a
    § 646.9(a) criminal stalking conviction is a CIMT. We
    consider what deference is due.
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    1. No Chevron Deference is Due
    Chevron deference does not apply here. Although Ajami
    is a published BIA decision, that decision did not interpret
    
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii) as applied to a § 646.9(a)
    offense. We do not accord Chevron deference in such
    circumstances. Compare Escobar v. Lynch, 
    846 F.3d 1019
    ,
    1025 (9th Cir. 2017) (“Although the BIA’s unpublished
    decision cites to published decisions, none interprets
    
    8 U.S.C. § 1182
    (a)(2) as applied to California Penal Code
    section 136.1, and thus none directly controls.”), with
    Marmolejo-Campos, 
    558 F.3d at
    911–12 (according
    Chevron deference to an unpublished BIA decision that
    relied on a prior published BIA decision addressing whether
    the same Arizona statute was a CIMT).
    2. Skidmore Deference is Due
    Skidmore deference may nevertheless apply. “Pursuant
    to Skidmore, a reviewing court ‘may properly resort’ to an
    agency’s interpretations and opinions ‘for guidance,’ as they
    constitute ‘a body of experience and informed judgment.’”
    Garcia v. Holder, 
    659 F.3d 1261
    , 1266–67 (9th Cir. 2011)
    (quoting Skidmore, 
    323 U.S. at 140
    ). The measure of
    deference varies “depend[ing] upon the thoroughness
    evident in its consideration, the validity of its reasoning, its
    consistency with earlier and later pronouncements, and all
    those factors which give it power to persuade, if lacking
    power to control.” Skidmore, 
    323 U.S. at 140
    . The BIA’s
    analysis here was not extensive. That shortfall, however,
    does not preclude Skidmore deference. An analysis of Ajami
    leads us to conclude that the BIA properly relied on that BIA
    decision to conclude that a § 646.9(a) offense is a CIMT.
    In Ajami, the Michigan aggravated stalking offense at
    issue criminalized “the making of 1 or more credible threats
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    against the victim, a member of the victim’s family, or
    another individual living in the victim’s household.” 22 I. &
    N. Dec. at 951 (quoting 
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(2)(c) (West 1996)). The statute defined “credible
    threat” as “a threat to kill another individual or a threat to
    inflict physical injury upon another individual that is made
    in any manner or in any context that causes the individual
    hearing or receiving the threat to reasonably fear for his or
    her safety or the safety of another individual.” 
    Id.
     (quoting
    
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(b)). Referring to the
    definition of stalking 6, the BIA observed that “[a] violator of
    the statute must act willfully, must embark on a course of
    conduct, as opposed to a single act, and must cause another
    to feel great fear.” 
    Id. at 952
    . Having previously held that
    “threatening behavior can be an element of a [CIMT],” the
    BIA determined that the offense was a CIMT because it
    involved “the intentional transmission of threats,” thus
    “evidenc[ing] [ ] a vicious motive or a corrupt mind.” 
    Id.
    Section 646.9(a) prohibits conduct that is materially
    identical to the aggravated criminal stalking offense in
    Ajami. Both offenses require: (1) a “willful” pattern of
    conduct, compare 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a), (e)–(g), with
    
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(a), (e); and (2) a
    “credible threat,” compare 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (a), with
    
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(b), (2)(c); that
    (3) causes the targeted person to “reasonably fear for his or
    her safety” or the safety of another individual, compare Cal.
    6
    The Michigan statute defined “stalking” to mean “a willful course
    of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of another
    individual that would cause a reasonable person to feel terrorized,
    frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested, and that
    actually causes the victim to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated,
    threatened, harassed, or molested.” Ajami, 22 I. & N. Dec. at 951 (citing
    
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(e)).
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    Penal Code § 646.9(a), (g), with 
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(b). Thus, as in Ajami, a violator of the statute
    at issue here “must act willfully, must embark on a course of
    conduct, as opposed to a single act, and must cause another
    to feel great fear.” 7 22 I. & N. Dec. at 951.
    Orellana argues, however, that § 646.9(a) is materially
    distinguishable from the aggravated stalking offense at issue
    in Ajami. He argues first that § 646.9(a)’s statutory title does
    not include the word “aggravated” and it is therefore a
    materially different statute. We disagree. Although Ajami
    acknowledged that Michigan law differentiated between
    misdemeanor stalking and aggravated stalking, the feature
    that differentiated these offenses was the latter’s “credible
    threat” element. 22 I. & N. Dec. at 951–52. Like the
    aggravated criminal stalking offense in Ajami, § 646.9(a)
    contains a “credible threat” element.
    Next, Orellana homes in on the “credible threat” element
    of the offense at issue in Ajami. He observes that the
    Michigan offense defined “credible threat” to mean “a threat
    to kill another individual or a threat to inflict physical injury
    upon another[.]” 
    Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 750
    .411i(1)(b).
    By contrast, § 646.9(a) is not limited to these specific
    threats. 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (g). This difference,
    however, does not render Ajami inapposite. Although Ajami
    noted the specific threats that the Michigan offense covered,
    Ajami’s CIMT determination did not turn on the type of
    threats made. Indeed, Ajami observed that “[t]he threat of
    7
    Orellana also claims error on the ground that § 646.9(a) does not
    use the phrase “great fear” or identify a requisite level of fear. This claim
    rests on Orellana’s mistaken understanding that the reference to “great
    fear” in Ajami was premised on statutory language requiring that level
    of fear. The statute, however, did not include any such language. Thus,
    there is no error on this ground.
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    violence, real or perceived, is almost always present in
    [stalking] cases; tragically, it is far from unheard of for a
    pattern of stalking to end in the stalker killing the stalked.”
    22 I. & N. Dec. at 952 (quoting People v. White, 
    536 N.W.2d 876
    , 883 (Mich. Ct. App. 1995)). Rather than focusing on
    the type of threats made, what made the criminal stalking
    offense at issue in Ajami morally turpitudinous was the
    “willful[],” “course of conduct” that “cause[d] another to
    feel great fear,” combined with the “intentional transmission
    of threats,” the latter of which evidenced a “vicious motive
    or [] corrupt mind.” 
    Id.
     As we have explained, § 646.9(a)
    mirrors these features. Thus, the BIA’s reliance on Ajami to
    determine that a § 646.9(a) criminal stalking conviction
    constitutes a CIMT is entitled to Skidmore deference.
    C. Section 646.9(a) Does            Not     Reach     Non-
    Turpitudinous Conduct
    Although the BIA’s decision is entitled to Skidmore
    deference, Orellana raises a more fundamental issue about
    § 646.9(a). He argues that § 646.9(a) reaches conduct that is
    not so “truly unconscionable” that it “surpasses the threshold
    of moral turpitude.” Robles-Urrea v. Holder, 
    678 F.3d 702
    ,
    708 (9th Cir. 2012). In his view, a § 646.9(a) conviction
    “only requires a general threat,” thus creating “doubt” about
    whether a § 646.9(a) conviction is a CIMT.
    Doubt is not the standard that we apply to assess a claim
    that a criminal statute does not categorically constitute a
    CIMT. Orellana must establish that there is a “realistic
    probability” that § 646.9(a) applies to conduct that is not
    morally turpitudinous.      Gonzales v. Duenas-Alvarez,
    
    549 U.S. 183
    , 193 (2007). This “requires more than the
    application of legal imagination to a state statute’s
    language.” 
    Id.
     Orellana can show a realistic probability in
    two ways. First, he can point to at least one other case in
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    which a state court applied the statute to non-turpitudinous
    conduct. Chavez-Solis v. Lynch, 
    803 F.3d 1004
    , 1009 (9th
    Cir. 2015). Second, he may rely on the statutory text alone.
    “[W]hen a state statute’s greater breadth is evident from its
    text, a petitioner need not point to an actual case applying
    the statute of conviction in a nongeneric manner.” 
    Id. at 1010
     (quotation marks omitted).
    Orellana’s argument implicates the second approach,
    and thus requires us to determine whether all the conduct that
    § 646.9(a) criminalizes is morally turpitudinous. When we
    have not previously considered whether the offense at issue
    is a CIMT, “our most useful guidance often comes from
    comparing the crime with others that we have previously
    deemed morally turpitudinous.” Nunez, 
    594 F.3d at 1131
    .
    A comparison of three decisions with the statutory text of
    § 646.9(a) leads us to conclude that moral turpitude inheres
    in all the conduct that § 646.9(a) criminalizes.
    We start with our decision in Fernandez-Ruiz v.
    Gonzales, 
    468 F.3d 1159
     (9th Cir. 2006). There, we
    considered whether two misdemeanor domestic assault
    convictions pursuant to Arizona law categorically
    constituted CIMTs. 
    Id. at 1161
    . We concluded that the
    statute of conviction was not a CIMT because (1) it did not
    require a willful or intentional act, which “alone” rendered
    the offense not a categorical match, 
    id.
     at 1166–67, and (2) it
    contained no element of injury at all, 
    id. at 1167
    . We
    summarized that “[a] simple assault statute which permits a
    conviction for acts of recklessness, or for mere threats, or for
    conduct that causes only the most minor or insignificant
    injury is not limited in scope to crimes of moral turpitude.”
    
    Id.
     (emphasis added). Similarly, in Uppal, we concluded
    that an aggravated assault offense pursuant to Canadian law
    did not constitute a CIMT because the offense required no
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    actual injury and no intent to inflict bodily injury. 605 F.3d
    at 716.
    Our decision in Latter-Singh v. Holder, 
    668 F.3d 1156
    (9th Cir. 2012), stands in stark contrast to our analysis in
    Fernandez-Ruiz and Uppal. In Latter-Singh, we held that a
    California Penal Code § 422 offense, which criminalized
    threats to commit a crime that would result in the death or
    great bodily injury to another person if carried out,
    categorically constituted a CIMT. Id. at 1163. We explained
    that § 422 criminalized:
    (1) willfully threatening to commit a crime
    that will result in death or great bodily injury
    to another person; (2) specific intent that the
    statement be taken as a threat; (3) the threat
    was “on its face and under the circumstances
    so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate,
    and specific as to convey to the person
    threatened, a gravity of purpose and an
    immediate prospect of execution of the
    threat”; (4) the threat “caused the victim to be
    in sustained fear for his or her own safety or
    for his or her immediate family’s safety”; and
    (5) the “victim’s fear was reasonable under
    the circumstances.”
    Id. at 1160 (quoting People v. Jackson, 
    100 Cal. Rptr. 3d 539
    , 543 (Ct. App. 2009)).
    We proffered three independent reasons for why the
    offense was a CIMT. First, we explained that “the
    underlying conduct threatened is itself a [CIMT],” and a
    § 422 conviction “require[d] both proof of the specific intent
    to injure required of [CIMTs] as well as proof of a threat of
    death or serious bodily injury made with the specific intent
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    that the victim believe the threat will be carried out.” Id. at
    1161–62 (internal quotation marks and original alteration
    omitted).     Second, we determined that the statute
    “criminalize[d] only that conduct which results in substantial
    harm,” specifically noting “that the person threatened [must]
    be in sustained fear or immediate danger to his or his
    family’s safety.” Id. at 1162 (emphasis added). Finally, we
    underscored that the statutory mens rea “constitute[d] the
    evil intent” necessary for a CIMT, which, in that case, was
    “[t]he intent to instill great fear of serious bodily injury or
    death in another[.]” Id. at 1163.
    Although we recognize that § 646.9(a) is not identical to
    the § 422 threat offense that we considered in Latter-Singh,
    we conclude that § 646.9(a) is more like that statute than the
    statutes that we considered in Fernandez-Ruiz and Uppal.
    Enacted in 1990, § 646.9 was the nation’s first criminal
    stalking statute. People v. Carron, 
    44 Cal. Rptr. 2d 328
    , 332
    (Ct. App. 1995). 8 The California Legislature enacted the
    statute as a response to the shooting of an actress and the
    murders of four Southern California women within a month
    and a half, each of whom had obtained restraining orders and
    communicated to their families that they believed they were
    going to be killed. 
    Id.
     “Existing criminal statutes were
    inadequate,” including § 422. Id. (noting that “[s]ection 422
    required an ‘unequivocal, unconditional, immediate’ threat
    of death or great bodily injury”). Although § 646.9
    contained the words “death or great bodily injury,” as
    8
    Nearly all states followed suit with California and enacted criminal
    stalking statutes. See Note, Robert N. Miller, “Stalk Talk”: A First Look
    at Anti-Stalking Legislation, 50 WASH. & LEE L. REV. 1303, 1303 & n.7
    (1993) (explaining that 48 states, including Michigan, enacted criminal
    antistalking statutes in the wake of California’s statute).
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    originally enacted, the California Legislature removed these
    words in 1993 to “strengthen[]” the statute by focusing on “a
    threat to a person’s safety.” Id. at 333.
    Orellana implicitly recognizes that if the statute were still
    limited to threats of death or great bodily injury, then the
    statute would categorically be a CIMT. Latter-Singh would
    compel that conclusion. We do not think, however, that the
    absence of “death or great bodily injury” from § 646.9(a)
    means that the statute criminalizes non-turpitudinous
    conduct, such as mere threats.
    Although § 646.9(a) is not limited to threats of death or
    great bodily injury, it has material similarities with the
    statute in Latter-Singh. Like the statute in Latter-Singh,
    § 646.9(a) “does not punish mere angry or emotional
    speech,” People v. Halgren, 
    61 Cal. Rptr. 2d 176
    , 180 (Ct.
    App. 1996), nor does it “encompass every kind of threat,”
    People v. Borrelli, 
    91 Cal. Rptr. 2d 851
    , 861 (Ct. App. 2000).
    See Latter-Singh, 668 F.3d at 1162 (observing that § 422
    does not criminalize “emotional outbursts or mere angry
    utterances or ranting soliloquies, however violent, but rather
    proscribes a narrow category of speech that instills fear in
    others” (citations, internal quotation marks and internal
    alterations omitted)).
    Instead, § 646.9(a) criminalizes only “true threats,”
    which means threats that are “unambiguous and have such
    immediacy that they convincingly express an intention of
    being carried out.” Falck, 60 Cal. Rptr. 2d at 629. That
    conclusion follows from § 646.9(a)’s elements which, when
    read together, “limit[] its application to only such threats as
    pose a danger to society[.]” Id. at 630. Like the statute in
    Latter-Singh, § 646.9(a) proscribes only “credible threat[s]”
    that cause the targeted individual to “reasonably fear for his
    or her safety” or his or her family’s safety, those made with
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    “the apparent ability to carry out the threat,” and those
    which the perpetrator specifically intends to cause such fear
    in the targeted person. 
    Cal. Penal Code § 646.9
    (g)
    (emphasis added); see also Latter-Singh, 668 F.3d at 1162
    (distinguishing Fernandez-Ruiz as lacking “a similar
    requirement that the person threatened be in sustained fear
    of immediate danger to his or his family’s safety.” (emphasis
    in original)). This conduct is more like the conduct
    proscribed by the § 422 threat offense that we deemed to be
    categorically a CIMT in Latter-Singh than the conduct
    proscribed by the simple assault offenses in Fernandez-Ruiz
    and Uppal.
    Further, “[t]he BIA has emphasized that ‘evil or
    malicious intent is . . . the essence of moral turpitude,’ and,
    therefore, one test ‘to determine if a crime involves moral
    turpitude is whether the act is accompanied by a vicious
    motive or a corrupt mind.’” Latter-Singh, 668 F.3d at 1161
    (second alteration in original) (quoting In re Flores, 
    17 I. & N. Dec. 225
    , 227 (B.I.A. 1980); then quoting Ajami, 22 I. &
    N. Dec. at 950). We have affirmed that “[t]he BIA is entitled
    to place great weight on the presence or absence of a mens
    rea element when determining whether a crime involves
    moral turpitude.” Id. at 1162 (emphasis added); see also
    Castrijon-Garcia, 704 F.3d at 1213. Although § 646.9(a)
    may not expressly require the threat of death or bodily
    injury, the BIA was entitled to place greater emphasis on the
    evil intent or corrupt mind that § 646.9(a) requires to
    conclude that the statute proscribes conduct that is
    categorically morally turpitudinous.
    Pursuant to our review of the statutory text and in light
    of our CIMT precedents, we conclude that § 646.9(a) does
    not “plainly and specifically criminalize[] conduct outside
    the contours of the federal definition” of a CIMT. Cerezo v.
    ORELLANA V. BARR                      21
    Mukasey, 
    512 F.3d 1163
    , 1167 (9th Cir. 2008). By
    extension, we conclude that a § 646.9(a) conviction is
    categorically a CIMT.
    II. The BIA Reasonably Concluded that Orellana’s Two
    § 646.9(a) Counts of Conviction Do Not Arise Out of
    a Single Scheme of Criminal Misconduct
    To be removable pursuant to 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii), Orellana’s two counts of conviction
    must also “not aris[e] out of a single scheme of criminal
    misconduct.” 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii). The INA does
    not define “single scheme of criminal misconduct.” Szonyi
    v. Barr, 
    942 F.3d 874
    , 892 (9th Cir. 2019). We conclude that
    the BIA’s interpretation of this phrase here was reasonable
    for two reasons.
    First, the BIA’s determination accords with its
    precedential decision in Matter of Adetiba, 
    20 I. & N. Dec. 506
    , 509 (B.I.A. 1992), to which we accord Chevron
    deference. Szonyi, 942 F.3d at 890. In Adetiba, the BIA
    construed the phase to mean that an alien is removable
    “when an alien has performed an act, which, in and of itself,
    constitutes a complete, individual, and distinct crime, . . .
    even though one may closely follow the other, be similar in
    character, and even be part of an overall plan of criminal
    misconduct.” 20 I. & N. Dec. at 509. Applying that
    construction, the BIA determined that the alien there had
    committed “separate and distinct crimes each time he used a
    different credit card and obtained through its unauthorized
    use” something of value. Id. at 512 (emphasis added). The
    BIA reasoned that “[t]he use of additional cards did not flow
    from and was not a natural consequence of a single act of
    criminal misconduct,” noting that “[a]fter use of any one
    credit card, the alien had the opportunity to dissociate
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    himself from his enterprise and reflect on what he had done.”
    Id.
    Here, the BIA relied in part on Adetiba to conclude that
    Orellana was convicted of two CIMTs not arising out of a
    single scheme of criminal misconduct. 9 Count 1 of the state
    felony complaint involved Orellana willfully and
    maliciously following and harassing one person between
    June 1, 2015 and April 26, 2017. Count 2 involved the same
    conduct by Orellana against a different person between
    March 1, 2017 and April 26, 2017. Relying on Adetiba, the
    BIA concluded that Orellana’s criminal offenses, which
    occurred on different dates over different periods of time, did
    not arise out of a single scheme. That was not a
    misapplication of Adetiba. And, like the offenses at issue in
    Adetiba, Orellana’s stalking in Count 1 was not a natural
    consequence of Orellana’s stalking of a different person in
    Count 2. 20 I. & N. Dec. at 512. He had the opportunity to
    dissociate himself from stalking the first person before
    stalking the second. Thus, the BIA reasonably determined
    that Orellana’s two § 646.9(a) counts of conviction did not
    arise out of single scheme of criminal misconduct pursuant
    to Adetiba.
    The BIA also relied in part on our decision in Leon-
    Hernandez v. U.S. I.N.S., 
    926 F.2d 902
     (9th Cir. 1991) to
    conclude that Orellana’s two counts of conviction did not
    arise out of a single scheme. In Leon-Hernandez, we
    observed that the then-applicable statutory text provided that
    “[a]n alien may be deported if ‘convicted of two crimes . . .
    9
    Orellana objects that the Government misstated Adetiba in its
    briefing during removal proceedings. Our review, however, is of the
    BIA’s decision, not the Government’s briefing before the BIA. See
    
    8 U.S.C. § 1252
    .
    ORELLANA V. BARR                      23
    regardless of whether the convictions were in a single
    trial.’” Id. at 904 (quoting 
    8 U.S.C. § 1251
    (a)(4) (1988))
    (emphasis and ellipsis in original). That text remains in the
    provision. 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii). The BIA properly
    recognized that Orellana’s simultaneous convictions did not
    render the statute inapplicable.
    Leon-Hernandez recognized a rebuttable “presumption
    of separate crimes created by the fact that the crimes were
    committed on different dates[.]” 
    926 F.2d at
    905 (citing
    Khan v. Barber, 
    253 F.2d 547
    , 549 (9th Cir. 1958), cert.
    denied, 
    357 U.S. 920
     (1958)). Because this presumption
    applies “[i]n the absence of evidence of a more conscious,
    coherent plan or program of future action, the BIA’s
    determination that [the alien’s] crimes did not arise from a
    single scheme of criminal misconduct is reasonable.” 
    Id.
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). The
    evidence before the BIA presumptively showed that
    Orellana’s two § 646.9(a) counts of conviction did not arise
    out of a single scheme because they occurred on different
    dates. Orellana never argued to the BIA that his counts arose
    out of a coherent plan or program, nor has he raised that
    argument here. We therefore have no basis to consider that
    issue. Barron v. Ashcroft, 
    358 F.3d 674
    , 677–78 (9th Cir.
    2004) (holding that an appellate court lacks jurisdiction to
    review issues not raised to the BIA). Accordingly, we
    uphold the BIA’s determination that Orellana’s two
    § 646.9(a) counts of conviction did not arise out of single
    scheme of criminal misconduct for the additional reason that
    the conclusion aligns with our precedent.
    CONCLUSION
    We hold that a conviction for criminal stalking in
    violation of California Penal Code § 646.9(a) is
    categorically a CIMT. The BIA therefore did not err in
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    concluding that a § 646.9(a) conviction is a CIMT.
    Furthermore, the BIA reasonably concluded that Orellana’s
    conviction for two CIMTs did not arise out of a single
    scheme of criminal misconduct. Accordingly, Orellana is
    removable as charged pursuant to 
    8 U.S.C. § 1227
    (a)(2)(A)(ii).
    PETITION DENIED.
    OWENS, Circuit Judge, concurring:
    “Dumb, dumb, dumb!” my Grandpa Harold would
    exclaim when I tried to explain a legal concept that made
    little sense. I can only imagine what he would say about the
    “CIMT” approach that case law currently compels us to
    apply.
    I do not have to imagine what other judges have said
    about this approach. Like me, they think it is dumb, dumb,
    dumb. See, e.g., Romo v. Barr, 
    933 F.3d 1191
    , 1199–1200
    (9th Cir. 2019) (Owens, J., concurring) (listing cases where
    judges from various circuits have criticized CIMT
    jurisprudence).
    We should avoid doing dumb things. Especially ones
    that are dumb3.
    A smarter (and more just) approach would be to “look to
    a more objective standard, such as the length of the
    underlying sentence, before deciding if someone should be
    removed from our country.” Almanza-Arenas v. Lynch,
    
    815 F.3d 469
    , 482–83 (9th Cir. 2016) (en banc) (Owens, J.,
    concurring, joined by Tallman, Bybee, and Callahan).
    ORELLANA V. BARR                     25
    Nevertheless, duty sometimes demands the dumb thing,
    so I join the majority opinion in full because it correctly
    applies the law as it now stands.