United States v. Bruce Sampson, Jr. ( 2023 )


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  •                            NOT FOR PUBLICATION                           FILED
    UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS                         JUN 8 2023
    MOLLY C. DWYER, CLERK
    U.S. COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,                       No.    21-30188
    Plaintiff-Appellee,             D.C. Nos.
    1:20-cr-02022-SMJ-1
    v.                                             1:20-cr-02022-SMJ
    BRUCE WARREN SAMPSON, Jr.,
    MEMORANDUM*
    Defendant-Appellant.
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Washington
    Salvador Mendoza, Jr., District Judge, Presiding
    Argued and Submitted February 16, 2023
    Seattle, Washington
    Before: PAEZ and VANDYKE, Circuit Judges, and BENITEZ,** District Judge.
    Concurrences by Judge Paez and Judge Vandyke.
    Appellant Bruce Sampson, Jr. was convicted by jury of assault with a
    dangerous weapon in Indian Country, in violation of 
    18 U.S.C. §§ 113
    (a)(3) and
    1153, and assault resulting in serious bodily injury in Indian Country, in violation
    *
    This disposition is not appropriate for publication and is not precedent
    except as provided by Ninth Circuit Rule 36-3.
    **
    The Honorable Roger T. Benitez, United States District Judge for the
    Southern District of California, sitting by designation.
    of 
    18 U.S.C. §§ 113
    (a)(6) and 1153. Sampson argues the district court erred when
    it: (1) denied his motion for a deposition of a material witness before trial; (2)
    denied his motion for acquittal of 
    18 U.S.C. § 113
    (a)(3), assault with a dangerous
    weapon; and (3) made various errors during sentencing. We have jurisdiction
    under 
    28 U.S.C. § 1291
     and 
    18 U.S.C. § 3742
    (a), and we affirm in part and reverse
    in part. We assume familiarity with the underlying facts and arguments in this
    appeal.
    1. Sampson makes two arguments relating to the district court’s denial of
    his motion for pre-trial deposition of victim E.U. First, Sampson contends that his
    counsel was prevented from preparing a full defense. This argument is not
    supported by precedent. Neither the Supreme Court nor the Ninth Circuit has
    recognized a Sixth Amendment right for defendants to depose or otherwise
    interview a witness prior to trial. United States v. Ash, 
    413 U.S. 300
    , 316-17
    (1973) (holding that the Sixth Amendment does not create a right for defense
    counsel to be present during prosecution’s pre-trial witness interviews); United
    States v. Black, 
    767 F.2d 1334
    , 1338 (9th Cir. 1985) (explaining that there is no
    violation of the Sixth Amendment when witnesses voluntarily decline pre-trial
    interviews with defense counsel).
    Second, Sampson argues E.U.’s “pervasive” memory loss at trial resulted in
    Sampson being functionally unable to confront the witness against him. The
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    Supreme Court has addressed whether a Confrontation Clause violation can be
    based on a witness’s loss of memory. United States v. Owens, 
    484 U.S. 554
    (1988), overruled on other grounds by Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    , 51
    (2004). In Owens, despite gaps in the victim’s memory regarding key events, the
    victim witness did testify at trial and was cross-examined by defense counsel. Id.
    at 556. The Owens Court determined the victim-witness’s lack of memory did not
    cause a Confrontation Clause violation, reasoning that, “[t]he Confrontation Clause
    guarantees only ‘an opportunity for effective cross-examination, not cross-
    examination that is effective in whatever way, and to whatever extent, the defense
    might wish.’” Id. at 559 (citation omitted). The same is true here. Because E.U.
    testified at trial and submitted to cross-examination by defense counsel, there was
    no Confrontation Clause violation.
    2. Next, Sampson challenges the district court’s denial of his motion for
    acquittal of 
    18 U.S.C. § 113
    (a)(3), assault with a dangerous weapon. Sampson
    does not challenge whether a shoe can be considered a dangerous weapon, but
    whether there was sufficient evidence to show E.U. was actually kicked during the
    assault. The standard for determining whether a conviction is supported by
    sufficient evidence is “whether, after viewing the evidence in the light most
    favorable to the prosecution, any rational trier of fact could have found the
    essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.” Jackson v. Virginia,
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    443 U.S. 307
    , 319 (1979); United States v. Nevils, 
    598 F.3d 1158
    , 1163-64 (9th
    Cir. 2010) (en banc) (quoting Jackson). Additionally, “[t]he reviewing court must
    respect the province of the jury to determine the credibility of witnesses, resolve
    evidentiary conflicts, and draw reasonable inferences from proven facts.” Walters
    v. Maass, 
    45 F.3d 1355
    , 1358 (9th Cir. 1995) (citation omitted).
    Sampson relies heavily on the testimony of defense witnesses and the
    victim’s inconsistent statements for this argument. However, his emphasis on
    conflicting witness accounts is misplaced. Given the conflicting testimony of all
    the witnesses to the assault—Sampson, his girlfriend Charlene Richards, and victim
    E.U.—the verdict signals that the jury found Sampson’s and Richards’s version of
    events not credible. We will not disturb this credibility determination on appeal.
    Sampson also points to multiple interpretations of the physical evidence to
    argue there was reasonable doubt that E.U. was kicked. Although there was no
    direct evidence, there was sufficient circumstantial evidence to show that E.U. was
    kicked during the assault. We have held that even circumstantial evidence and
    inferences drawn therefrom can be enough to uphold a conviction. Maass, 
    45 F.3d at 1358
     (citation omitted). After reviewing the record in the light most favorable to
    the prosecution, we conclude there is sufficient evidence to support Sampson’s
    conviction for assault with a deadly weapon.
    3. Finally, Sampson alleges several errors occurred during his sentencing.
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    A district court’s interpretation of the Sentencing Guidelines is reviewed de novo,
    its application of the Guidelines to facts is reviewed for abuse of discretion, and its
    factual findings are reviewed for clear error. United States v. Loew, 
    593 F.3d 1136
    , 1139 (9th Cir. 2010) (citation omitted).
    First, Sampson challenges the district court’s application of the obstruction
    of justice adjustment to his sentence. The district court stated the basis for the
    obstruction of justice enhancement was Sampson’s testimony at trial. The
    Supreme Court has held that when a district court bases this sentence enhancement
    on the defendant’s trial testimony, the court must “make independent findings
    necessary to establish a willful impediment to or obstruction of justice . . . under
    the perjury definition we have set out.” United States v. Dunnigan, 
    507 U.S. 87
    ,
    95 (1993).
    In a line of cases interpreting Dunnigan, we have held that district courts
    must make the explicit factual findings necessary for perjury; a reviewing court
    cannot justify the enhancement on appeal, and the district court’s failure to make
    these findings during sentencing is reversible error. United States v. Herrera-
    Rivera, 
    832 F.3d 1166
    , 1174-75 (9th Cir. 2016); United States v. Castro-Ponce,
    
    770 F.3d 819
    , 822-23 (9th Cir. 2014); United States v. Jimenez-Ortega, 
    472 F.3d 1102
    , 1103-1104 (9th Cir. 2007). In this case, the district court did not make the
    requisite express factual findings required by these cases. Bound by the rule set
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    out in Castro-Ponce, we reverse and remand for resentencing on this ground.
    Second, Sampson challenges the district court’s application of the deadly
    weapon enhancement to his sentence. However, because the jury’s verdict
    regarding assault with a deadly weapon was supported by sufficient evidence, the
    application of this upward adjustment was not erroneous.
    Third, Sampson challenges the district court’s denial of a downward
    adjustment for acceptance of responsibility. When deciding whether to apply this
    adjustment, district courts “should consider the defendant’s contrition,” United
    States v. Martinez-Martinez, 
    369 F.3d 1076
    , 1089 (9th Cir. 2004), and whether the
    defendant “manifests a genuine acceptance of responsibility for his actions,”
    United States v. McKinney, 
    15 F.3d 849
    , 852 (9th Cir. 1994). As long as the
    sentencing court did not rely on impermissible factors when making this
    determination, “no specific explanation of reasons is required for denying a
    defendant a downward adjustment for acceptance of responsibility.” United States
    v. Mohrbacher, 
    182 F.3d 1041
    , 1052 (9th Cir. 1999) (citation omitted). Here, the
    district court made explicit findings on the record that Sampson lacked remorse for
    his actions. This reasoning is sufficient.
    Finally, Sampson challenges the overall reasonableness of his sentence.
    Sampson points to the disparity in sentence length between state and federal courts,
    and further argues this disparity unduly impacts Native Americans who are
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    sentenced under federal sentencing guidelines. Sampson appears to argue that the
    Major Crimes Act, 
    18 U.S.C. § 1153
     et seq, is unconstitutional under the Equal
    Protection Clause because it makes “an explicit classification based on race or
    ethnicity.”
    Sampson’s argument comparing state and federal sentencing disparities is
    foreclosed by United States v. Ringgold, where we held that 
    18 U.S.C. § 3553
    (a)(6) does not require consideration of disparities between similarly situated state
    and federal defendants. 
    571 F.3d 948
    , 951 (9th Cir. 2009). We reasoned that
    “allowing the departure solely based on federal-state sentence disparities ‘would
    undermine the goal of uniformity that Congress sought to ensure in enacting the
    [Sentencing] Guidelines.’” 
    Id.
     (citation omitted).
    Regarding the disparate effect the federal sentencing guidelines have on
    Native Americans, parts of this argument have been addressed by both the
    Supreme Court and this court. In United States v. Antelope, the Supreme Court
    reasoned that classification of Native Americans under the Major Crimes Act was
    a political one arising from “the unique status of Indians as a ‘separate people’
    with their own political institutions.” 
    430 U.S. 641
    , 646 (1977). The Supreme
    Court concluded that “Indian” in this context was therefore not an impermissible
    racial classification. 
    Id. at 646
    . Adding to this, we have observed that, “Congress
    is not required to eliminate all differences in treatment between Indians and non-
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    Indians so long as all persons subject to federal jurisdiction are treated the same.”
    United States v. Yazzie, 
    693 F.2d 102
    , 104 (9th Cir. 1982) (citing Antelope, 430
    U.S. at 646). Given the above, the district court did not abuse its discretion or
    impose an unreasonable sentence based on its refusal to consider the potentially
    lesser sentence Sampson could have received in state court.
    AFFIRMED IN PART, REVERSED IN PART, and REMANDED for
    resentencing consistent with this disposition.
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    FILED
    United States v. Sampson, No. 21-30188                                      JUN 8 2023
    MOLLY C. DWYER, CLERK
    Paez, J., concurring:                                                    U.S. COURT OF APPEALS
    I concur in the majority decision. I write separately to express my
    agreement with the decision in United States v. Castro-Ponce, which holds that a
    sentencing court must make express findings on the elements of perjury before
    imposing a sentencing enhancement for obstruction of justice under U.S.S.G.
    § 3C1.1. 
    770 F.3d 819
    , 823 (9th Cir. 2014). Our holding in Castro-Ponce is
    consistent with Supreme Court precedent and the approaches of our sister circuits.
    Furthermore, the Castro-Ponce rule serves an important role in safeguarding a
    defendant’s constitutional right to testify on his own behalf, without fear he will be
    punished by a longer sentence if found guilty. For these reasons, I disagree with
    the concurrence’s attempt to chip away at Castro-Ponce.
    The concurrence’s argument is premised on a misreading of United States v.
    Dunnigan, 
    507 U.S. 87
     (1993). Dunnigan holds that a sentencing court cannot
    impose a § 3C1.1 enhancement without “mak[ing] independent findings necessary
    to establish a willful impediment to or obstruction of justice . . . under the perjury
    definition” the Court laid out. Id. at 95. The Court’s definition of perjury contains
    three elements: 1) that a defendant gave false testimony 2) on a material matter 3)
    with willful intent. Id. at 94. The Court explained that, when imposing a § 3C1.1
    enhancement for perjury, “it is preferable for a district court to address each
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    element of the alleged perjury in a separate and clear finding,” but it is also
    sufficient if a court “makes a finding . . . that encompasses all of the factual
    predicates for a finding of perjury.” Id. at 95. The concurrence seizes on this latter
    clause, asserting that it allows district courts to impose the enhancement without
    making any findings on the elements of perjury.
    But there can be no doubt that Dunnigan requires specific findings on the
    elements of perjury. The opinion repeatedly says so. It first states that “a trial
    court must make findings to support all the elements of a perjury violation in the
    specific case.” Id. at 96-97. And then again, it stresses that “the elements of
    perjury must be found by the district court with the specificity we have stated.” Id.
    at 98 (emphasis added). The concurrence claims that the Court “meant what it
    said” by “not requiring explicit findings on each element of alleged perjury,” but
    that statement is found nowhere in the opinion. Dunnigan is clear: a trial court can
    choose to make “separate and clear” findings on the perjury elements, or a finding
    “encompass[ing]” all of the elements at once, but either way, the court must
    address every element of the offense.
    The factual record in Dunnigan further underscores the specificity of
    findings that is required. In Dunnigan, the district court made a global statement
    that addressed all three elements of perjury at once, finding that “the defendant was
    untruthful at trial with respect to material matters . . . that were designed to
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    substantially affect the outcome of the case.” Id. at 95 (emphasis in original). The
    Supreme Court concluded that this statement was sufficiently specific because
    “each of the factual predicates of perjury was covered by the [text that the Court]
    italicized,” and the record contained evidence supporting those findings. United
    States v. Jimenez, 
    300 F.3d 1166
    , 1170 (9th Cir. 2002) (citing Dunnigan, 
    507 U.S. at 95
    ). The notion that Dunnigan allows a trial court to freely impose the perjury
    enhancement without making any specific findings is not consistent with what
    happened in that case.
    We have consistently interpreted and applied Dunnigan since its inception.
    In a series of early cases, we upheld the obstruction of justice enhancement
    because the district court made findings on all three elements of perjury. See
    United States v. Shannon, 
    137 F.3d 1112
    , 1119 (9th Cir. 1998) (affirming district
    court’s statement that it “found [defendant’s] testimony to be false, material, and
    willful”); United States v. Oplinger, 
    150 F.3d 1061
    , 1070 (9th Cir. 1998)
    (affirming district court’s finding that the “evidence shows that [the defendant] did
    testify as [sic] a material, relevant issue of fact falsely”); see also United States v.
    Ancheta, 
    38 F.3d 1114
    , 1118 (9th Cir. 1994). And in 2006 and 2007, we vacated a
    § 3C1.1 enhancement in two separate cases because the district court failed to
    make findings on materiality. See Jimenez, 
    300 F.3d at 1171
     (“[B]ecause the court
    . . . did not expressly find that the false testimony was material, its finding of
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    perjury failed to encompass all factual predicates of perjury as required by
    Dunnigan.”); see also United States v. Jimenez-Ortega, 
    472 F.3d 1102
    , 1103-04
    (9th Cir. 2007) (same).
    The concurrence embarks on a misleading detour by citing United States v.
    Arias-Villanueva, one of our earlier cases where we upheld a perjury enhancement
    despite the district court’s failure to make a finding on materiality. 
    998 F.2d 1491
    ,
    1512-13 (9th Cir. 1993). But Arias-Villanueva was overruled for reasons that had
    nothing to do with Dunnigan. As we explained in Jimenez-Ortega, Arias-
    Villanueva was abrogated by the Supreme Court’s decision in United States v.
    Gaudin, which clarified that materiality is a factual issue that must be decided by
    the trier of fact. Jimenez-Ortega, 
    472 F.3d at
    1103-04 (citing United States v.
    Gaudin, 
    515 U.S. 506
     (1995)). “Thus, while it was acceptable at the time of Arias-
    Villanueva for our court to make a ruling on materiality . . . this was no longer true
    when Jimenez was decided.” Id. at 1103. Arias-Villanueva does not show that our
    court later changed course in interpreting Dunnigan’s requirements, as the
    concurrence claims it does.
    This brings us to Castro-Ponce, which is the primary subject of the
    concurrence’s critique. Castro-Ponce simply clarifies Dunnigan by explaining that
    a sentencing court must make “express findings on all three prongs necessary for
    perjury to amount to obstruction of justice.” 
    770 F.3d at 822
    . The concurrence
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    greatly overstates the impact and significance of this decision, claiming that our
    Circuit “discovered” new requirements for the perjury enhancement. In reality, the
    “express” findings rule is the same standard we have always applied, and it is
    functionally identical to Dunnigan’s language requiring “specific” findings. 1 The
    Castro-Ponce rule was reaffirmed by another panel in 2016. United States v.
    Herrera-Rivera, 
    832 F.3d 1166
    , 1175 (9th Cir. 2016). Although the Herrera-
    Rivera court remarked on the “rigid[ness]” of the Castro-Ponce rule, it also
    acknowledged that a requirement of express findings was “consistent with our
    precedents prior to Castro-Ponce . . . as well as the approach taken by some of our
    sister circuits.” 
    Id.
     (citations omitted).
    On that note, we are not the only circuit that requires express findings on the
    elements of perjury. The Castro-Ponce rule “accords with” decisions from the
    Sixth Circuit and the Tenth Circuit. Castro-Ponce, 
    770 F.3d at 822
    ; see United
    States v. Kamper, 
    748 F.3d 728
    , 747 (6th Cir. 2014) (reversing because the district
    court failed to make findings on materiality or intent); United States v. Massey, 48
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    The concurrence contends that prior caselaw only required findings on
    materiality, and not on willfulness or false testimony—but that is not true. As
    discussed, the materiality requirement was embroiled in dispute because it was
    unclear if it was a legal issue or a factual one prior to the Supreme Court’s decision
    in Gaudin. See Jimenez-Ortega, 
    472 F.3d at 1103-04
    . Our court had always
    required “specific” findings on the other two elements, and so does Dunnigan.
    See, e.g., Oplinger, 
    150 F.3d at 1070
    ; Shannon, 
    137 F.3d at 1119
    ; Ancheta, 
    38 F.3d at 1118
    .
    
    5 F.3d 1560
    , 1573 (10th Cir. 1995) (noting that Dunnigan requires a district court to
    address “all three elements of perjury” and reversing because the district court
    failed to address materiality and willfulness). The concurrence cites another case,
    United States v. Roberts, where the Sixth Circuit explains that it does not always
    “insist on rigid adherence to these rules.” 
    919 F.3d 980
    , 990 (6th Cir. 2019). But
    even then, the Sixth Circuit emphasized that it would not sustain an enhancement
    when a district court “made no findings whatsoever” on the elements of perjury
    because doing so would “fail[] to satisfy the most forgiving reading of
    Dunnigan.”2 
    Id. at 990-91
    .
    There are good reasons to adopt such procedural safeguards surrounding the
    obstruction of justice enhancement. For one, perjury is a “serious charge” that
    often increases a defendant’s prison sentence; it therefore “requires serious proof.”
    Castro-Ponce, 
    770 F.3d at 823
    . An overzealous application of the obstruction of
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    The concurrence also cites several cases from other circuits without clearly
    explaining why. The majority of these cases do not conflict with our holding in
    Castro-Ponce, and conversely, some are supportive. See, e.g., United States v.
    Smith, 
    62 F.3d 641
    , 647 (4th Cir. 1995) (reversing enhancement where district
    court failed to specifically find the three elements of perjury or to “make a single
    global finding that encompassed the three essential elements”); United States v.
    Tracy, 
    36 F.3d 199
    , 203 (1st Cir. 1994) (upholding perjury enhancement where the
    district court made “each of the three ultimate findings of inaccuracy, willfulness,
    and materiality”); United States v. Rodriguez, 
    995 F.2d 776
    , 779 (7th Cir. 1993)
    (upholding enhancement where district court made sufficient findings as to false
    testimony, materiality, and willfulness).
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    justice enhancement can also infringe on the constitutional right of criminal
    defendants to testify in their own defense. See Rock v. Arkansas, 
    483 U.S. 44
    , 51
    (1987) (citation omitted). Dunnigan recognized that risk and sought to protect
    against the enhancement becoming “automatic.” Dunnigan, 
    507 U.S. at 98
    . We,
    too, should “decline to adopt a more forgiving standard” that might “chill[] a
    criminal defendant’s willingness” to take the stand. Castro-Ponce, 
    770 F.3d at 823
    .
    Finally, the Castro-Ponce rule also helps ensure “reliability and
    reviewability” of the sentencing decision on appeal. 
    Id.
     The case before us
    perfectly illustrates the practical necessity of the rule. The district court’s only
    finding in support of imposing a § 3C1.1 enhancement was that “the jury
    necessarily found that [Sampson] perjured himself” by rendering a guilty verdict.
    This statement is woefully inadequate to permit meaningful review of whether
    Sampson’s testimony met the elements of perjury. Castro-Ponce ensures that an
    appellate court will not have to “rely on inference to deduce” the reasons why the
    district court imposed the enhancement. Roberts, 
    919 F.3d at 991
    .
    I respectfully disagree with the arguments in the concurrence, and I see no
    need to reexamine our holding in Castro-Ponce.3
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    The concurrence goes to great lengths to attack my interpretation of Dunnigan
    and our cases applying Dunnigan. I invite the reader to review the cited cases and
    reach their own conclusions. I have no doubt that the reader will find Castro-
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    Ponce consistent with longstanding precedent from our circuit and our sister
    circuits.
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    United States v. Sampson, No. 21-30188                                    JUN 8 2023
    MOLLY C. DWYER, CLERK
    VANDYKE, Circuit Judge, concurring:                                    U.S. COURT OF APPEALS
    I agree with the majority decision, and write separately only to spotlight our
    court’s mistaken rule dating from 2014 that a sentencing court must make explicit
    findings on all elements of perjury before it imposes a Section 3C1.1 sentencing
    enhancement. Nothing in the text or application notes of that section or in Supreme
    Court precedent requires such explicit findings. No other circuit has followed us on
    this lonesome detour.      And our own court has only resignedly imposed the
    requirement since 2014, despite recognizing that it likely creates “too rigid a rule.”
    United States v. Herrera-Rivera, 
    832 F.3d 1166
    , 1174 (9th Cir. 2016).
    American sentencing courts historically enjoyed broad discretion in how to
    impose extra penalties on defendants who had perjured themselves at trial. E.g.,
    Seymour Harris, Principles of Criminal Law 175 (1880). Nothing in the text of
    Section 3C1.1 or its application notes as published in 1987 cabined this discretion
    by requiring a sentencing court to make explicit findings as to the perjury elements
    when it applies the enhancement. See U.S.S.G. § 3C1.1 (1987). Nor has any such
    requirement been added to the section’s text or application notes since then. See
    U.S.S.G. § 3C1.1 (2021).
    Supreme Court precedent does not compel a conclusion that such a
    requirement lies hidden somewhere behind the plain text of Section 3C1.1. In
    United States v. Dunnigan, the Supreme Court clarified that, if a defendant objects
    to imposition of the enhancement, Section 3C1.1 requires a sentencing court to
    “review the evidence and make independent findings necessary to establish a willful
    impediment to or obstruction of justice, or an attempt to do the same, under the
    perjury definition we have set out.” 
    507 U.S. 87
    , 95 (1993). But the Court left open
    two different routes for a sentencing court to meet this obligation. First, it could
    make explicit, separate, and clear findings for each element of the alleged perjury.
    
    Id.
     Second, it could make a finding that “encompasses all of the factual predicates
    for a finding of perjury” when reviewed in light of the record. 
    Id.
    In the years immediately following Dunnigan, our sister circuits had no trouble
    understanding that the Court meant what it said when it preserved that second route
    of not requiring explicit findings on each element of alleged perjury. See, e.g.,
    United States v. Tracy, 
    36 F.3d 199
    , 203 (1st Cir. 1994); United States v. Boggi, 
    74 F.3d 470
    , 479 (3d Cir. 1996); United States v. Smith, 
    62 F.3d 641
    , 647 (4th Cir.
    1995); United States v. Laury, 
    985 F.2d 1293
    , 1308 (5th Cir. 1993); United States v.
    Rodriguez, 
    995 F.2d 776
    , 778 (7th Cir. 1993); United States v. Massey, 
    48 F.3d 1560
    ,
    1573 (10th Cir. 1995); United States v. Dobbs, 
    11 F.3d 152
    , 155 (11th Cir. 1994).
    Nor did our own court initially diverge from this consensus. The first time we
    applied Dunnigan, we noted that the Court in that case upheld a perjury enhancement
    even though the sentencing court had not even designated any specific item of false
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    testimony, and we thus concluded that a sentencing court need not explicitly make
    such findings provided “the record supports the district court’s finding of perjury.”
    United States v. Arias-Villanueva, 
    998 F.2d 1491
    , 1512 (9th Cir. 1993), overruled
    on other grounds as recognized in United States v. Kahre, 
    737 F.3d 554
     (9th Cir.
    2013). We repeatedly reaffirmed that understanding of Dunnigan in subsequent
    years, holding that “although it is preferable for a district court to address each
    element of the alleged perjury in a separate and clear finding, this is in no way
    required.” United States v. Oplinger, 
    150 F.3d 1061
    , 1071 (9th Cir. 1998) (cleaned
    up); see also United States v. Sager, 
    227 F.3d 1138
    , 1144 (9th Cir. 2000) (upheld
    despite no explicit finding).
    But we started to change our mind in 2007. In United States v. Jimenez-
    Ortega, we correctly extended the Supreme Court’s reasoning from twelve years
    earlier in United States v. Gaudin, 
    515 U.S. 506
     (1995), to require that the sentencing
    court, as factfinder, make a finding as to the materiality element of perjury before
    applying the Section 3C1.1 enhancement. 
    472 F.3d 1102
    , 1103–04 (9th Cir. 2007)
    (per curiam). Without further analysis, though, the Jimenez-Ortega panel then
    assumed without saying that this also meant the materiality finding needed to be
    explicit rather than discernible from the record. 
    Id.
    No other circuit court adopted that requirement before we plunged further
    down the path away from a natural reading of Dunnigan in United States v. Castro-
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    Ponce, 
    770 F.3d 819
     (9th Cir. 2014). There, for the first time after more than two
    decades of reading and rereading Dunnigan, our court discovered a requirement that
    a sentencing court must make explicit findings not only as to materiality but as to all
    perjury elements before it permissibly could apply the Section 3C1.1 enhancement:
    [I]n light of the government’s comment at oral argument that no case
    within our circuit has held that a finding of materiality must be express,
    we hold today that an express finding is required. To hold otherwise
    would eviscerate the rule announced in Jimenez-Ortega. Absent a
    requirement of express findings on all three prongs necessary for
    perjury to amount to obstruction of justice, we would have to speculate
    about the district court’s legal conclusions on obstruction. Rather than
    engage in such speculation, we require the fact-finder to make those
    determinations explicitly for our review.
    
    Id. at 822
    . The Castro-Ponce court did not ground this new requirement in the text
    of Section 3C1.1 or try to reconcile it with the outcome of Dunnigan itself. Nor did
    it explain how the requirement could have been necessarily implied in Jimenez-
    Ortega when our court had upheld a Section 3C1.1 enhancement just months earlier
    in a case where the sentencing court had not made express findings on all three
    perjury elements. United States v. Armstrong, 
    749 F.3d 842
    , 848 (9th Cir. 2014).
    Judge Paez has a more modest view of Castro-Ponce than the Castro-Ponce
    panel itself had, reading the case as consistent with Dunnigan, our preceding
    caselaw, and the approaches of our sister circuits. But that view is distorted by
    misunderstandings of the cases he cites and of how they fit into a broader context of
    relevant cases he does not cite.
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    Those misunderstandings start with Dunnigan itself. Judge Paez assumes that
    when the Court said a sentencing court must “make independent findings” separate
    from a jury guilty verdict, the Court secreted into that language an additional two
    requirements that those findings be specific and express. He reads Dunnigan to
    “repeatedly say[] so,” though he does not reference any language where the Court in
    fact said so even once. He instead infers those unstated requirements from two case
    quotations, neither of which supports his reading. First, the Court held that the “trial
    court must make findings to support all the elements of a perjury violation in a
    specific case.” Yet nothing in that language necessitates specific and express
    findings. Second, the Court held that “the elements of perjury must be found with
    the specificity we have stated.” Yet the Court in preceding pages had expressly
    identified two permissible degrees of specificity: (1) separate and clear findings on
    each element or (2) a general finding that encompasses all of the factual predicates
    for a finding of perjury. 
    507 U.S. at 95
    .
    Perhaps sensing just how thin a reed of support those quotations offer, Judge
    Paez contends that Dunnigan’s factual record “further underscores the specificity of
    findings that is required.” It does—but not in the way he thinks it does. The
    sentencing court in Dunnigan applied the enhancement with a cursory recitation of
    the perjury elements and a bald reliance on the guilty verdict. Dunnigan, 
    507 U.S. at 91, 95
    . It was only when the Court reviewed the sentencing court’s statement
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    against the record that it found “ample support for the District Court’s finding” and
    affirmed it. 
    Id.
     at 95–96. Judge Paez posits that the “notion that Dunnigan allows a
    trial court to freely impose the perjury enhancement without making any specific
    findings is not consistent with what happened in that case.” Respectfully, that is
    what happened in that case.
    Judge Paez further asserts that our court’s “consistent[]” interpretation of
    Dunnigan in the decades preceding Castro-Ponce also confirms the counterintuitive
    position that the Court explicitly permitted a sentencing court to make a general
    finding of perjury supported by the record, only to then implicitly render that option
    a nullity by requiring specific and express findings. But he again misreads the cases
    he cites. He reads United States v. Shannon to have required specific and express
    findings, but our court there only required that findings be “independent” from a
    jury’s guilty verdict. 
    137 F.3d 1112
    , 1119 (9th Cir. 1998) (per curiam). He reads
    United States v. Oplinger for the same proposition, but it states the exact opposite:
    “although it is preferable for a district court to address each element of the alleged
    perjury in a separate and clear finding, this is in no way required.” 
    150 F.3d at 1070
    .
    And he reads United States v. Ancheta the same way, but our court there merely held
    that the sentencing court’s moderately specific findings were sufficient to satisfy
    Dunnigan—not that they were necessary. 
    38 F.3d 1114
    , 1118 (9th Cir. 1994).
    A survey of our relevant caselaw beyond the few cases Judge Paez cites only
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    confirms that our court consistently—at least seven times!—did not require specific
    and express findings for each of the perjury elements up until Castro-Ponce itself
    imposed that requirement for the first time. See United States v. Robinson, 
    63 F.3d 889
    , 892 (9th Cir. 1995); United States v. Garcia, 
    135 F.3d 667
    , 671 (9th Cir. 1998);
    United States v. Monzon-Valenzuela, 
    186 F.3d 1181
    , 1184 (9th Cir. 1999); Sager,
    
    227 F.3d at 1146
    ; United States v. Cordova Barajas, 
    360 F.3d 1037
    , 1043 (9th Cir.
    2004); United States v. Armstrong, 
    620 F.3d 1172
    , 1176–77 (9th Cir. 2010); United
    States v. Taylor, 
    749 F.3d 842
    , 848 (9th Cir. 2014). Some of those cases postdate
    Gaudin, and they collectively belie any assertion that “the ‘express’ findings rule is
    the same standard we have always applied.”
    Lastly, Judge Paez says other circuits also “require[] express findings on the
    elements of perjury” and that Castro-Ponce accords with their decisions. But his
    argument there fails in three ways.
    First, he contends the Sixth and Tenth Circuits impose that requirement, even
    though those circuits have expressly said otherwise. The Sixth Circuit recently has
    at least twice affirmed that the second Dunnigan route is still valid: a sentencing
    court preferably should, but need not, make specific and express findings as to the
    perjury elements. United States v. Castro, 
    960 F.3d 857
    , 870–71 (6th Cir. 2020);
    United States v. Roberts, 
    919 F.3d 980
    , 990–91 (6th Cir. 2019). The Tenth Circuit
    has made the same point twice—including when applying the decision Judge Paez
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    cites for the opposite conclusion. See United States v. Paup, 
    933 F.3d 1226
    , 1235
    (10th Cir. 2019); United States v. Flonnory, 
    630 F.3d 1280
    , 1287 (10th Cir. 2011).
    Second, he cites three cases for the proposition that the First, Fourth, and
    Seventh Circuits support Castro-Ponce’s conclusion that Dunnigan requires specific
    and express findings on all three perjury elements. But none of the cited cases
    actually does. The Fourth Circuit case he cites reversed an enhancement because,
    as it expressly stated, the sentencing court did not satisfy Dunnigan’s requirements
    by making either specific findings or a single global finding that encompassed the
    perjury elements. See United States v. Smith, 
    62 F.3d 641
    , 647 (4th Cir. 1995).
    Meanwhile, the First and Seventh Circuit cases he cites note simply that the
    sentencing court’s specific findings there sufficed to satisfy Dunnigan, not that they
    were necessary. See United States v. Tracy, 
    36 F.3d 199
    , 201–03 (1st Cir. 1994);
    United States v. Rodriguez, 
    995 F.2d 776
    , 779 & n.3 (7th Cir. 1993). All three
    circuits have subsequently and unmistakably held that Dunnigan does not require
    specific and express findings. United States v. Teganya, 
    997 F.3d 424
    , 435–36 (1st
    Cir. 2021); United States v. Savage, 
    885 F.3d 212
    , 225–26 (4th Cir. 2018); United
    States v. Price, 
    28 F.4th 739
    , 757 (7th Cir. 2022).
    Third, a survey of the remaining circuits finds none that requires specific and
    express findings of perjury for all cases like Castro-Ponce does. See United States
    v. Rosario, 
    988 F.3d 630
    , 633–34 (2d Cir. 2021) (per curiam); United States v. Gray,
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    942 F.3d 627
    , 633 (3d Cir. 2019); United States v. Ajayi, 
    64 F.4th 243
    , 251 (5th Cir.
    2023); United States v. Garcia, 
    61 F.4th 628
    , 631–32 (8th Cir. 2023); United States
    v. Stahlman, 
    934 F.3d 1199
    , 1227–28 (11th Cir. 2019); United States v. Montague,
    
    40 F.3d 1251
    , 1256 (D.C. Cir. 1994).
    Almost a decade has passed since Castro-Ponce. Yet to borrow a line from a
    Green Day song that won a Grammy around the same time our court first set off on
    its own path, we still walk a lonely road, and we walk alone. No other circuit court
    appears to have followed our lead in reinterpreting Dunnigan to conflict with its own
    result. To the contrary, at least the Sixth and Eleventh Circuits have since then
    reaffirmed that Dunnigan does not require an explicit finding on any perjury prong.
    United States v. Stahlman, 
    934 F.3d 1199
    , 1227–28 (11th Cir. 2019); United States
    v. Roberts, 
    919 F.3d 980
    , 990–91 (6th Cir. 2019). And our own court has itself
    doubted the correctness of Castro-Ponce’s reading of Dunnigan, recognizing in
    Herrera-Rivera that “[a] good argument can be made that Castro-Ponce applies too
    rigid a rule.” 
    832 F.3d at 1174
    . We should fix this unnecessary requirement and
    bring our court in line with the other circuits. Or I suppose the Supreme Court could
    do it for us.
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