People v. Grimes CA4/2 ( 2021 )


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  • Filed 5/21/21 P. v. Grimes CA4/2
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    IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION TWO
    THE PEOPLE,
    Plaintiff and Respondent,                                      E071594
    v.                                                                       (Super.Ct.No. FELJS1600148)
    MICHAEL GRIMES,                                                          OPINION
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from the Superior Court of San Bernardino County. Lorenzo R.
    Balderrama, Judge. Reversed and remanded with directions.
    Ron Boyer, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Appellant.
    Xavier Becerra, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters, Chief Assistant Attorney
    General, Julie L. Garland, Senior Assistant Attorney General, and Michael Pulos and Joy
    Utomi, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    In 1989, defendant Michael Grimes confessed to sexually abusing his three
    daughters. He pleaded guilty to two counts of a forcible lewd act on a child and was
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    sentenced to prison. In 2002, two neighbor girls disclosed that he had sexually abused
    them. He pleaded no contest to three counts of a nonforcible lewd act on a child and was
    sentenced to prison again. In this proceeding, a jury found defendant to be a sexually
    violent predator (SVP); he was committed indefinitely for treatment.
    Defendant appeals. His numerous contentions fall into four general categories:
    (1) his 1989 confession would have been inadmissible in a proceeding to extend the
    commitment of a person found “not guilty by reason of insanity” (NGI), and therefore it
    was an equal protection violation to admit it in an SVP proceeding, unless the People
    provided a constitutional justification for the distinction; (2) the Sexually Violent
    Predator Act (SVPA or Act) is unconstitutional; (3) there was insufficient evidence of
    various elements of the definition of an SVP; (4) and the trial court erred by denying a
    requested instruction.
    On the authority of People v. McKee (2010) 
    47 Cal.4th 1172
    , we are compelled to
    agree that, on this record, it was an equal protection violation to admit defendant’s
    confession. The appropriate appellate remedy is to remand conditionally, to give the
    People an opportunity to demonstrate that the distinction between NGIs and SVPs is
    necessary to further a compelling state interest. We also address defendant’s contention
    that the Act is unconstitutional, because, if it is, there would be no need for a remand and
    he could not be retried. However, we reject defendant’s various arguments on this point.
    We address defendant’s other contentions, as well, because, if they were well-
    taken, he would have to be retried. However, we reject these, too. Accordingly, if the
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    trial court concludes on remand that the distinction between NGIs and SVPs is
    constitutional, it must reinstate the judgment; otherwise, it must hold a new trial.
    I
    STATEMENT OF FACTS
    A.        Defendant’s Criminal Record.
    1.    1989 conviction.
    Defendant had three daughters — K., D., and C. Because of his “violent temper
    reactions,” his wife and children were afraid of him. He “beat [his] wife.” He
    disciplined his daughters by spanking them, by hand, with a belt, or with a paddle, and by
    slapping their faces. He also threatened his daughters, telling them, “[Y]ou don’t have to
    fear the police because they can only kill you, I’m the one you really have to fear.”
    Around 1984, defendant started sexually abusing his daughters. At that time, K.
    was nine or ten, D. was seven or eight, and C. was five or six. He made all three of them
    undress. He made K. orally copulate him; he also made the other two “lick it,” so
    “nobody can rat on nobody.”
    He had sex with his wife once a day and a daughter once a day. His daughters
    orally copulated him daily for a couple of months, so “probably . . . less than . . . 100
    times.” He also orally copulated them. He digitally penetrated C. and K. He took photos
    of them naked, with their legs spread. He “tried to stay away from D[.],” because she had
    a learning disability. Nevertheless, on occasion, he performed sexual acts with all three
    girls at once.
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    He threatened them that if their mother found out, “she ain’t going to love you no
    more, there’s going to be a big fight, daddy goes to jail.” He regularly threatened to kill
    C. and her whole family if she told.
    Sometimes, his daughters asked him to stop. He later said, “When they say no, I
    did my best to stop,” “[b]ut it’s very, very difficult without the right help.” “I could not
    stop it myself, so I asked them to stop me from doing it.”
    In 1989, defendant was arrested. He gave the police a confession, which was read
    to the jury in this case.
    In it, he explained, “I started . . . just for blow jobs because my wife wouldn’t give
    me one.” “[It n]ever occurred to me that I was affecting them mentally.” He knew what
    he was doing was illegal, but he felt it was not morally wrong. In his view, “the head of
    the household controls the family and make[s] the moral rules.”
    Defendant said he had moved out of Georgia because sex with children “was a
    way of life in Georgia.” “In Georgia, it’s right, they always do it. . . . I think that’s
    where I got the idea it was okay.” Once, when he was in Georgia, he asked to see his
    wife’s eight-year-old sister’s genitals; she showed him.
    Defendant entered into a plea bargain pursuant to which he pleaded guilty to two
    counts of a forcible lewd act on a child, involving C. only. Other counts involving the
    two older sisters were dropped. In 1990, he was sentenced to 16 years in prison.
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    In 1997, he was released on parole. Two days later, he violated his parole by
    failing to report to his parole officer, because he planned to commit suicide. His parole
    was revoked and he was hospitalized.
    2.      2002 conviction.
    In 1998, defendant was released again. As a registered sex offender, he was not
    supposed to interact with children. Nevertheless, in 2002, he sexually abused two sisters,
    R., aged 12, and H., aged 10, who lived in his apartment complex.
    According to R., defendant touched her breasts and buttocks, over her clothing.
    About two weeks later, he grabbed her, rubbed her buttocks, then rubbed her vagina.
    According to H., defendant rubbed his body against her, then touched her breasts
    and buttocks. “[H]e threatened to kill [H.] and her sister if she told anyone.”
    R. had previously been sexually abused by her father. The father had then
    murdered the girls’ mother, in front of H. Thus, the girls lived with their maternal
    grandmother. After defendant moved out, the grandmother looked up all the known
    pedophiles in her zip code and discovered that defendant was a pedophile. She therefore
    asked the girls if someone had touched them. In response, they disclosed the sexual
    abuse by defendant.
    The girls’ initial statements to their grandmother and to the police were
    inconsistent, in some respects, with their statements in subsequent forensic interviews.
    Also, in 2016, R. gave a statement to an investigator that was inconsistent, in some
    respects, with her statements in 2002.
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    In 2004, defendant pleaded no contest to three counts of a nonforcible lewd act on
    a child and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. In 2016, he was released from prison
    and committed to Coalinga State Hospital.
    B.     Expert Testimony.
    1.     General accepted methodology.
    As expert witnesses, the prosecution called Michelle Vorwerk and Dr. Robert
    Brook. The defense called Dr. Lisa Jeko and Dr. Carolyn Murphy. All four were
    psychologists and experienced SVP evaluators.
    All four experts agreed that defendant had Pedophilic Disorder. Three of them
    agreed that he also had Antisocial Personality Disorder; Dr. Murphy, however, believed
    that he had Adjustment Disorder instead.
    In evaluating defendant’s risk of reoffending, all four experts used the Static-99R.
    The Static-99R is “the most commonly used actuarial[,] empirical . . . tool used” to
    determine a sex offender’s risk of reoffending. It looks only at “static” risk factors —
    i.e., immutable factors, such as the subject’s past offenses and history of nonsexual
    violence.
    The Static-99R was developed by looking at a large group of sex offenders and
    determining what those who reoffended tended to have in common. Several different
    “norms” had been developed by applying the Static-99R to different sample groups.
    These included the “routine” group and the “high-risk/high-needs” group. The high-
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    risk/high-needs group had a smaller sample size. Moreover, it did not include any
    offenders in the United States.
    All of the experts agreed that defendant’s score on the Static-99R was 0, which
    indicated “below average” risk.
    In the routine group, a score of zero indicated that the risk of reoffending within
    five years was 2.8 percent. The 95 percent confidence interval was from 2.2 to 3.5
    percent.
    In the high-risk/high-needs group, a score of zero meant a 7.2 percent chance of
    reoffending within five years; the 95 percent confidence interval was from 4.7 to 10.7
    percent. It also meant a 13 percent chance of reoffending within ten years, with a 95
    percent confidence interval from 7.9 to 20.5 percent.
    The Static-99R probably underestimates recidivism, in that some new sex crimes
    go unreported or unsolved. On the other hand, it probably overestimates sexually violent
    predatory recidivism, in that it predicts the rate of any new sex offense, not necessarily a
    new sexually violent predatory offense.
    Follow-up studies in 2014 and 2016 — using larger sample sizes and looking
    specifically at offenders released in California — had found that low-risk offenders’
    actual recidivism rates were lower than the Static-99R would have predicted.
    A 2015 article stated: “Although we recommend th[at] comprehensive
    evaluations[] consider both reference groups, the ability of evaluators [t]o improve
    accuracy by choosing reference groups has yet to be empirically tested[.]”
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    All four experts agreed that studies had found — counter-intuitively — that (1)
    denial of the offense, (2) minimizing culpability, (3) lack of empathy with the victim, and
    (4) lack of motivation for treatment were not correlated with increased risk.
    2.       Prosecution experts.
    a.    Testimony of Dr. Vorwerk.
    Dr. Vorwerk found defendant’s combination of disorders “troublesome,” because
    “[n]ot only does the Pedophilic Disorder render him sexually attracted to children, the
    Antisocial Personality Disorder enables him to put aside any guilt, any remorse, or any
    empathy that he should have for the children.” Pedophilic Disorder is not curable, though
    it is “treatable with rigorous, intensive treatment over a long period of time, with the
    person engaging in that treatment.” Similarly, Antisocial Personality Disorder “is
    chronic, enduring, and it just doesn’t go away unless you’re in rigorous treatment and
    desiring to change.”
    Dr. Vorwerk had scored defendant on the PCL-R, a test of psychopathy, and had
    found that he had a “high degree of psychopathy.” “[A] psychopath is a more severe
    version of somebody that has Antisocial Personality Disorder.” A psychopath “is very
    callous and has no empathy . . . .” A psychopath is also “very impulsive and
    sensation[-]seeking . . . .” When defendant talked about abusing C., “it all revolved
    around how it affected his life detrimentally.” He did not express any empathy or
    remorse.
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    “[O]ne of the most alarming things” defendant had said was that he wanted to
    deflower his oldest daughter — to “pop her cherry.” When he said this to Dr. Vorwerk,
    he was “laughing and smirking and had no recognition that this would be extremely
    damaging to his daughter.”
    Defendant told Dr. Vorwerk that his 1989 confession to the police was false.
    “[H]e was coerced by the police and made that up as part of his plea agreement because
    of what his attorney told him to do.” According to defendant, he sexually abused only C.,
    and only one time, which involved “regular sex”; he denied any oral copulation. In that
    incident, he “hit his daughter in the face and used a belt [on] her . . . .” On a later
    occasion, “he was only teaching her not to . . . have sex with him again . . . .” This
    showed denial and a lack of insight.
    Defendant also denied sexually abusing R. and H. Initially, he said he never
    talked to them. Later, however, he said he had babysat them. He said that, at the time the
    sexual abuse of R. and H. allegedly occurred, he was “drinking heavily.”
    Defendant had been enrolled in a sex offender program at Coalinga for two years.
    Initially, his performance was “spotty at best.” More recently, he was “doing well,” but
    he was still in “the beginning stage of treatment.” The program took a minimum of five
    to six years to complete, and usually longer.
    Defendant felt he did not have a sexual problem and did not need sex offender
    treatment. He was not taking advantage of other programs he needed, such as programs
    for distorted thinking, cognitive impairment, coping skills, empathy, and anger
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    management. He said he had no release plan to avoid being rearrested.1 He was
    “adamant” that he was going to start drinking again when he was released.
    While in prison, defendant had been cited for two rule violations, one for
    possession of pornography and one for fighting. While at Coalinga, he had put a child
    pornography video into his video player.
    Also while at Coalinga, he had been angry, aggressive, and threatening to staff on
    at least five occasions.2 In one instance, he slapped a staff member’s hand. However, he
    denied needing an anger management program. It was concerning that he was still
    aggressive, despite his advanced age. His hostility to his wife and daughters was
    reflected “throughout” his hospital records. In 2017, he said, “When I get out, I’m going
    to pop [them],” and made a shooting gesture.
    In addition to the Static-99R, Dr. Vorwerk had used the SRA-FV, which looks at
    “dynamic” — i.e., mutable — risk factors. Defendant’s dynamic factors, including
    aggression, relational issues, alcohol abuse, and lack of treatment, placed him in the high-
    risk/high-needs group for purposes of the Static-99R.
    In addition to static and dynamic factors, an evaluator should also consider certain
    “protective factors” — advanced age, a medical condition that impairs sexuality,
    1     Defense counsel later produced a written release plan, prepared by
    defendant and a social worker.
    2      Defendant introduced evidence that he had been provoked and that his
    behavior in response was justifiable, or at least understandable.
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    completion of a sex offender treatment program, and living in the community for at least
    five to ten years without reoffending. These reduce the likelihood of reoffending.
    Dr. Vorwerk did not consider defendant’s age and medical condition to be
    protective. Although he was 65, the Static-99R already took that into account, giving
    him minus 3 points for it. He had a number of medical problems, but they had not
    prevented him from sexually abusing the neighbor girls, and would not prevent him from
    sexually abusing a child again. The remaining two protective factors also did not apply
    to defendant.
    Finally, in Dr. Vorwerk’s opinion, an evaluator should also consider “individual
    risk factors.” Defendant’s lack of insight was one individual risk factor. He was
    “extremely hypersexual” and “sexually preoccupied.” He was estranged from his family
    and thus did not have any family support.
    Dr. Vorwerk was “concern[ed]” that defendant had said that his crimes were
    legally wrong but not morally wrong. This was a “cognitive distortion.” Defendant had
    “emotional impairment,” meaning that he did not understand that he was causing
    someone harm. He also had “volitional impairment,” meaning “a serious difficulty
    controlling [his] behavior.” In Dr. Vorwerk’s view, conditions of parole, such as
    outpatient sex offender treatment and GPS monitoring, would not be sufficient to prevent
    defendant from reoffending.
    Dr. Vorwerk concluded that, as a result of defendant’s mental disorders, there was
    a serious and well-founded risk that he would engage in sexually violent predatory
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    criminal behavior. She believed defendant would reoffend in a predatory manner,
    because his 2002 offenses were predatory.
    b.     Testimony of Dr. Brook.
    Dr. Brook agreed that Pedophilic Disorder is “chronic.” “[I]t doesn’t go away.”
    Antisocial Personality Disorder is also “chronic.”
    Dr. Brook used not only the Static-99R, but also an updated version, the
    Static-2002R. The Static-2002R considers more factors than the Static-99R. Two of
    these applied to defendant: having at least two victims under 12, at least one of which is
    unrelated to the perpetrator; and violating community supervision. As a result,
    defendant’s score was 2. That indicates average risk. Some studies had found that using
    multiple actuarial tools improved predictive accuracy; others had found that it did not.
    In assessing risk, Dr. Brook did not consider dynamic factors. Thus, he assessed
    defendant using the routine norms, not the high-risk/high-needs norms.
    However, he did testify that defendant was volitionally impaired, as shown by the
    fact that he kept doing something he knew was illegal and then, even after a lengthy
    prison term, he did it again. He was also emotionally impaired, because he was able to
    maintain sexual arousal with his own children, even when they protested. He had
    “intimacy deficits,” which made him more likely to commit a crime. And he had given
    conflicting accounts of his molestation of his daughters.
    Dr. Brook agreed with Dr. Vorwerk that defendant had no protective factors.
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    In Dr. Brook’s opinion, as a result of defendant’s mental disorders, there was a
    serious and well-founded risk that he would reoffend in a sexually violent manner.3
    When asked why, he responded: “[H]e has committed multiple crimes multiple times,
    committed them again at a much later age, despite knowing what the consequences could
    be, his lack of empathy for his victims, his lack of acknowledgment for giving different
    stories for the first set of crimes, his complete and absolute denial of the second set of
    crimes, his unpredictability in the open community in terms of following normal
    conventions and societal expectations, as well as some legal expectations.” Defendant
    would be at risk to reoffend unless and until he completed treatment, including ancillary
    treatment such as anger management.
    3.     Defense experts.
    a.      Testimony of Dr. Jeko.
    In Dr. Jeko’s view, there were “questions” about whether the 2002 sexual abuse of
    the neighbor girls had actually occurred. She noted that they had suffered previous
    trauma; their grandmother had questioned them (perhaps suggestively) after learning that
    defendant was a registered sex offender; and there were inconsistencies in their accounts.
    Also, defendant claimed he pleaded guilty on his attorney’s advice, because he was
    facing a sentence of 25 years to life. If not for the 2002 offense, defendant would have
    3    Dr. Brook did not specifically testify that defendant would reoffend in a
    predatory manner.
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    scored much lower on the Static-99R. Dr. Jeko agreed, however, that she had to assume
    the 2002 sexual abuse did actually occur.
    Dr. Jeko did not use the SRA-FV because it was based on a dubious sample and it
    had not been replicated. She admitted, however, that defendant’s dynamic risk factors
    included a sexual preference for children, lack of emotionally intimate relationships with
    adults, impulsivity, poor problem-solving, aggrieved thinking, and lack of concern for
    others.
    On the PCL-R, the test of psychopathy, she had scored him at 21 out of 40, which
    was in the moderate range for a male inmate. The high range starts at 25.
    During defendant’s first four months at Coalinga, he had no “behavioral
    incidents.” In the incidents that occurred later, he did not make physical contact. Rather,
    “he yells a lot. He gets upset.” He had had some valid grievances.
    Defendant had “started out really resistant” to sex offender treatment, but recently,
    he had “kicked up his attendance,” “become engaged,” and “was doing his homework.”
    Dr. Jeko admitted, however, that defendant had said he did not want to go to treatment.
    In Dr. Jeko’s opinion, defendant was not likely to reoffend. If released on parole,
    he would be subject to restrictive conditions that would both support his rehabilitation
    and protect the community.
    Defendant’s parole agent confirmed that, if released on parole, defendant would be
    subject to extensive supervision and would receive assorted supportive services.
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    Defendant’s social worker testified that defendant had access to supportive services,
    including sex offender treatment.
    b.     Testimony of Dr. Murphy.
    When Dr. Murphy compared defendant’s score on the Static-99R to California
    norms, his risk of reoffending was negligible — about the same as a non-sex offender.
    An individual should be compared to local norms, if available. If released on parole,
    defendant would be closely supervised and required to attend sex offender treatment.
    Because California uses this “containment model” of parole, one would expect its
    recidivism rates to be lower than elsewhere.
    According to Dr. Murphy, dynamic factors should not be used to predict statistical
    risk. Using dynamic factors to choose a norm group makes the outcome more subjective
    and less accurate.
    In calculating defendant’s static risk, Dr. Murphy accepted that defendant
    committed the 2002 offenses. If, however, he did not actually commit them, then his
    scores would have been lower; moreover, there would be no evidence of predatory
    behavior at all. Dr. Murphy noted the inconsistencies in the two girls’ accounts. While
    defendant was “pretty open” about the offenses against his daughters, he “very firm[ly]”
    denied the offenses against R. and H. He said he had pleaded guilty because he was
    facing 25 years to life in prison.
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    In Dr. Murphy’s opinion, defendant was not likely to reoffend. Defendant “ha[d]
    demonstrated that he was willing to participate in treatment,” and he was in fact making
    progress in treatment.
    II
    THE ADMISSION OF DEFENDANT’S CONFESSION
    AS AN EQUAL PROTECTION VIOLATION
    Defendant contends that the trial court erred by admitting his confession when it
    would have been inadmissible under Miranda4 in an NGI extension proceeding, and
    when there was no proof that its admission did not violate equal protection.
    A.     Additional Factual and Procedural Background.
    In 1989, while defendant was under arrest for an unrelated assault, a police officer
    gave him Miranda warnings. When asked if he was willing to talk, he said, “I guess I
    want an attorney,” thus terminating the questioning.
    Two days later, one of defendant’s daughters disclosed the sexual abuse. Thus,
    while he was still in custody, a different police officer gave him Miranda warnings again.
    He purported to waive his Miranda rights. He then confessed to sexually abusing his
    daughters.
    In this proceeding, defendant filed a motion in limine to exclude his 1989
    confession, based on Miranda. He did not contend that Miranda applies, of its own
    force, in an SVP proceeding. (See Allen v. Illinois (1986) 
    478 U.S. 364
    , 368-374 [Fifth
    4      Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 
    384 U.S. 436
    .
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    Amendment right against compulsory self-incrimination does not apply in proceeding for
    civil commitment of a sexually dangerous person]; People v. Allen (2008) 
    44 Cal.4th 843
    ,
    860 [Fifth Amendment right against compulsory self-incrimination does not apply in
    SVP proceeding].) Rather, he cited Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7), which
    provides that, in an NGI extension proceeding, the defendant “shall be entitled to the
    rights guaranteed under the federal and State Constitutions for criminal proceedings. All
    proceedings shall be in accordance with applicable constitutional guarantees.” (Pen.
    Code, § 1026.5, subd. (b)(7).) He then argued that, as a matter of equal protection, the
    defendant in an SVP proceeding must be accorded the same rights.
    The trial court denied the motion. It explained that, in its view, defendant was
    improperly trying to relitigate his 1989 conviction.
    B.     Discussion.
    1.     The Edwards rule.
    Once defendant invoked his right to counsel, the police were prohibited from
    reinitiating an interrogation as long as he remained in custody. (Edwards v. Arizona
    (1981) 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 484-485.) That is true even though he was given new Miranda
    warnings and purported to waive his rights. (Id. at p. 487.) It is true even though he was
    questioned by a different officer who did not know that he had invoked his right to
    counsel. (Arizona v. Roberson (1988) 
    486 U.S. 675
    , 688-689.) And it is true even
    though he was questioned about a separate investigation. (Id. at p. 683.) Thus
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    defendant’s confession was taken in violation of Miranda. The People do not argue
    otherwise.
    2.     Application to an NGI Extension Proceeding.
    As noted, defendant contends that equal protection entitles him to the same rights
    as in an NGI extension proceeding, including the Edwards rule. Hence, there is a
    threshold issue as to whether the Edwards rule applies in an NGI extension proceeding.
    a.      Whether the Edwards rule is a federal constitutional right.
    As mentioned, Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7) provides that an NGI
    is entitled to “the rights guaranteed under the federal and State Constitutions for criminal
    proceedings . . . .” The United States Supreme Court has “frequently emphasized that the
    Edwards rule is not a constitutional mandate, but judicially prescribed prophylaxis.
    [Citations.]” (Maryland v. Shatzer (2010) 
    559 U.S. 98
    , 105; see also Solem v. Stumes
    (1984) 
    465 U.S. 638
    , 644, fn. 4 & 646.)
    That court, however, has likewise “repeatedly referred to the Miranda warnings as
    ‘prophylactic,’ [citation] and ‘not themselves rights protected by the Constitution,’
    [citation] . . . .” (Dickerson v. United States (2000) 
    530 U.S. 428
    , 437-438.)
    Nevertheless, in Dickerson, it held squarely that Miranda was “a constitutional decision
    . . . .” (Id. at p. 432.) It explained that the “first and foremost . . . factor[]” indicating the
    constitutional status of the Miranda rule was “that both Miranda and two of its
    companion cases applied the rule to proceedings in state courts — to wit, Arizona,
    California, and New York. [Citation.] Since that time, we have consistently applied
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    Miranda’s rule to prosecutions arising in state courts. [Citations.] It is beyond dispute
    that we do not hold a supervisory power over the courts of the several States. [Citations.]
    With respect to proceedings in state courts, our ‘authority is limited to enforcing the
    commands of the United States Constitution.’ [Citations.]” (Id. at pp. 438-439, fn.
    omitted.) Just like Miranda, Edwards was entitled “v. Arizona.” It arose from a
    prosecution in a state court. Therefore, it implicitly but necessarily held that the rule that
    it stated was a constitutional rule.
    b.     Whether the Edwards rule is “applicable” within the
    meaning of Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b) (7).
    Even though the Edwards rule is a constitutional right, it is not incorporated into
    Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7) per se. Once again, that subdivision
    provides that, in an NGI commitment extension proceeding, “All proceedings shall be in
    accordance with applicable constitutional guarantees.” The key word here is
    “applicable.”
    In Hudec v. Superior Court (2015) 
    60 Cal.4th 815
    , our Supreme Court shed light
    on how to determine whether a given constitutional right is “applicable.” Hudec held that
    Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7) gives an NGI committee the right to refuse
    to testify at trial. (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, at pp. 818, 826-832.)
    It began by noting that “section 1026.5(b)(7) poses a degree of inherent difficulty.
    By its terms, the statute in effect commands a translation or transposition of procedural
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    rights from the criminal context to the noncriminal, contexts sufficiently different to raise
    a question of its interpretation.” (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th at p. 826.)
    The court rejected an interpretation that no constitutional rights available in
    criminal proceedings were “applicable,” simply because a civil commitment proceeding
    is not criminal; that “would render the statutory provision a nullity.” (Hudec v. Superior
    Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th at pp. 826-827.)
    However, it also rejected an interpretation that all constitutional rights available in
    criminal proceedings were “applicable.” It explained: “Where a right applicable in
    criminal proceedings cannot logically be provided within the framework of an NGI
    commitment extension hearing, we might infer the Legislature could not have meant for
    section 1026.5(b)(7) to encompass it.” (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th at
    p. 828.) It gave the example that, if an NGI committee had the right not to be tried while
    mentally incompetent, “the issue of an NGI respondent’s continuing mental illness,
    central to the hearing under section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(1), would tend to be
    subsumed within nonstatutory proceedings on mental competence, and the hearing called
    for by section 1026.5 could be indefinitely delayed. [Citations.]” (Id. at pp. 828-829.)
    Finally, the court noted “the idea, first posited in [People v. Superior Court
    (Williams) (1991) 
    233 Cal.App.3d 477
    ], that constitutional rights bearing no ‘relevant
    relationship’ to commitment extension proceedings are not included in the granting
    language of section 1026.5(b)(7) . . . .” (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th at
    p. 829.) For this reason, Williams had held that double jeopardy did not apply in an NGI
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    extension proceeding. (People v. Superior Court (Williams), supra, 233 Cal.App.3d at
    p. 488.) Hudec found it unnecessary to decide, however, whether Williams was correct
    on this point, because it concluded that the right not to testify at trial did have a relevant
    relationship to an NGI extension proceeding. (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, at
    p. 830.)
    The court explained: “The right not to testify in a proceeding where one is a
    defendant is a right that could meaningfully apply in any type of adversarial proceeding,
    though only in criminal cases is it constitutionally guaranteed. In contrast to double
    jeopardy . . . , the right not to testify does not take its very meaning from the criminal
    context, nor does applying it when the prosecution seeks to compel the respondent’s
    testimony in an NGI commitment extension hearing present any logical difficulty. . . .
    ‘The right to not be compelled to testify against oneself is clearly and relevantly
    implicated when a person is called by the state to testify in a proceeding to recommit him
    or her even if what is said on the witness stand is not per se incriminating.’ [Citation.]”
    (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, 60 Cal.4th at p. 830.)
    We cannot say that Miranda rights “cannot logically be provided within the
    framework of an NGI commitment extension hearing” (or an SVP proceeding). They
    simply mean that the committee’s unwarned statements to the police in response to
    custodial interrogation generally must be excluded.5 Similarly, we cannot say that
    5    Significantly, we are dealing exclusively with statements to the police.
    Thus, we need not decide whether statements by a committee to a psychological
    examiner may require Miranda warnings, nor whether excluding such statements when
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    Miranda rights have no “relevant relationship” to an NGI extension proceeding. In the
    words of Hudec, Miranda rights “could meaningfully apply in any type of adversarial
    proceeding . . . .” (Hudec v. Superior Court, supra, at p. 830.)
    We therefore conclude that the Edwards rule does apply in NGI extension
    proceedings under Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7).
    3.    Equal protection principles.
    In People v. McKee, 
    supra,
     
    47 Cal.4th 1172
     (McKee I), our Supreme Court held
    that SVPs are similarly situated to NGIs (id. at p. 1207) and mentally disordered
    offenders (MDOs) (id. at p. 1203); accordingly, it was a violation of equal protection to
    commit SVPs indefinitely when NGIs and MDOs could be committed only for the
    maximum term of their underlying offense, unless the People could “demonstrate [a]
    constitutional justification” for the distinction. (Id. at pp. 1207-1208.) The Supreme
    Court “remand[ed] to the trial court to permit the People the opportunity to justify the
    differential treatment in accord with established equal protection principles. [Citation.]”
    (Id. at p. 1184.)
    On remand, after a trial, the Court of Appeal held in People v. McKee (2012) 
    207 Cal.App.4th 1325
     (McKee II), that the disparate treatment did not violate equal
    protection. It reviewed the extensive evidence developed in the trial court (id. at
    pp. 1339-1347) and found “substantial evidence to support a reasonable perception by the
    Miranda warnings were not given is logically consistent with an NGI extension
    proceeding or an SVP proceeding.
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    electorate that SVP’s present a substantially greater danger to society than do MDO’s or
    NGI’s, and therefore the disparate treatment of SVP’s . . . is necessary to further the
    People’s compelling interests of public safety and humane treatment of the mentally
    disordered.” (Id. at pp. 1330-1331; see also People v. Field (2016) 
    1 Cal.App.5th 174
    ,
    190-192 [following McKee II]; People v. Gray (2014) 
    229 Cal.App.4th 285
    , 291 [same];
    People v. Kisling (2014) 
    223 Cal.App.4th 544
    , 547-548 [same]; People v. McDonald
    (2013) 
    214 Cal.App.4th 1367
    , 1371, 1377-1382 [same]; ; People v. Landau (2013) 
    214 Cal.App.4th 1
    , 45-48 [same]; People v. McCloud (2013) 
    213 Cal.App.4th 1076
    , 1085-
    1086 [same]; People v. McKnight (2012) 
    212 Cal.App.4th 860
    , 862-864 [same].)
    In the wake of McKee I, People v. Curlee (2015) 
    237 Cal.App.4th 709
     likewise
    held that SVPs are similarly situated to NGIs with respect to NGIs’ statutory right not to
    be forced to testify (Pen. Code, § 1026.5, subd. (b)(7)). (Curlee, supra, at pp. 720-721.)
    It remanded for “an evidentiary hearing at which the People will have the opportunity to
    show that the differential statutory treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s is justified.” (Id. at
    p. 722; accord, People v. Landau (2016) 
    246 Cal.App.4th 850
    , 864-865.)
    We are unable to distinguish McKee I, Curlee, and Landau. A petition for the
    initial commitment of an SVP (Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 6601, subds. (h), (i), 6601.3, subd.
    (a)) is precisely analogous to a petition to extend the commitment of an NGI (Pen. Code,
    § 1026.5). Both SVPs and NGIs have been found guilty of a crime; both have served the
    applicable sentence (with the trivial difference that the SVP served it while incarcerated,
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    whereas the NGI served it while civilly committed); and the state is trying to civilly
    commit both for an extended period.
    When the People seek to extend an NGI’s commitment, by statute, the defendant
    is “entitled to the rights guaranteed under the federal and State Constitutions for criminal
    proceedings . . . .” (Pen. Code, § 1026.5, subd. (b)(7).) Although we have not found any
    case specifically involving the application of Miranda in the NGI extension context, it
    seems inescapable that a statement obtained in violation of Miranda cannot be introduced
    against the defendant in an NGI extension proceeding.
    When the People seek to commit a defendant as an SVP, the defendant enjoys no
    similar statutory protection. Under McKee I, Curlee, and Landau, however, it follows
    that defendant was entitled to the protections of Miranda, unless and until the People
    could demonstrate a constitutional justification for the distinction.6 Again, the People do
    not argue otherwise.
    As the People note, McKee II established that there is a constitutional justification
    for distinguishing SVPs from NGIs and MDOs with respect to an indefinite commitment
    — namely, that SVPs present a substantially greater danger to society. In particular,
    SVPs are significantly more likely to commit new sexual offenses (McKee II, supra, 207
    6       People v. Landau, supra, 
    214 Cal.App.4th 1
     held that the Fourth
    Amendment exclusionary rule does not apply of its own force in an SVP proceeding. (Id.
    at pp. 18-23.) It did not decide any issue regarding Miranda’s Fifth Amendment
    exclusionary rule. It also did not consider whether SVPs have a statutory right to
    exclusion as a matter of equal protection. (Landau, supra, at pp. 45-48.) Accordingly, it
    is not helpful here.
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    Cal.App.4th at pp. 1340-1342); victims of sexual offenses suffer unique and, generally,
    greater trauma (id. at pp. 1342-1344); and SVPs have different diagnoses that require
    longer continuous treatment (id. at pp. 1344-1347) — all factors that favor an indefinite
    commitment. But the People do not argue that these factors conclusively establish a
    constitutional justification for distinguishing SVPs from NGIs with respect to Miranda.
    (See People v. Curlee, supra, 237 Cal.App.4th at p. 721 [McKee II does not establish a
    constitutional justification for the disparate treatment of SVPs with respect to the right
    not to testify].) We therefore express no view on this proposition. We leave it open to be
    litigated below, if raised.
    3.     Forfeiture.
    The People argue that defendant forfeited his Miranda claim in 1989 by pleading
    guilty to the sexual abuse. However, they do not point to any legal theory supporting
    forfeiture.
    The People note that a guilty plea severely limits the claims that a defendant can
    raise in an appeal from the resulting conviction. “‘[A] guilty plea constitutes an
    admission of every element of the offense charged and constitutes a conclusive admission
    of guilt. [Citation.] . . . Accordingly, a plea of guilty waives any right to raise questions
    regarding the evidence, including its sufficiency or admissibility, and this is true whether
    or not the subsequent claim of evidentiary error is founded on constitutional violations.
    [Citation.] . . . .” [Citation.]’ [Citation.]” (People v. Cisneros-Ramirez (2018) 
    29 Cal.App.5th 393
    , 405.) In particular, a defendant who has pleaded guilty “is precluded
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    from obtaining appellate review of his motion to exclude statements on the grounds he
    was interrogated without a valid Miranda warning and waiver. [Citations.]” (Id. at
    p. 406.)
    We know of no rule, however, that a guilty plea precludes the defendant from
    asserting a Miranda claim in any proceeding other than an appeal or a similar attack on
    the conviction. A defendant could reasonably plead guilty, despite having a meritorious
    Miranda claim, if there is sufficient other evidence of guilt. Hence, a guilty plea is a
    conclusive admission that there is sufficient evidence of guilt, and it is a forfeiture of a
    Miranda claim in that criminal proceeding, but it is not a conclusive admission that a
    Miranda claim would have no merit. The People assert that defendant “is attempting to
    collaterally attack [the] guilty plea . . . .” But not at all. His guilty plea and his
    conviction will remain valid, regardless of whether his confession must be excluded in
    this SVP proceeding.
    As defendant argues: “Suppose that in 1989 a second criminal case had been
    brought against [defendant] and that [defendant]’s statement taken in violation of
    Miranda had been relevant to that second criminal case. The fact that [defendant] had
    pled guilty in the first case would not mean that [defendant]’s statement taken in violation
    of Miranda would be admissible in that second case.”
    Finally, as defendant also aptly argues, because he pled guilty, his Miranda claim
    has never been litigated. Thus, there is no basis for collateral estoppel. (See generally
    People v. Carter (2005) 
    36 Cal.4th 1215
    , 1240.)
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    4.     Prejudicial or harmless error.
    The People also contend that the asserted Miranda violation was harmless.
    Determining what harmless error standard applies in this case is a nice question.
    In McKee, the error was prejudicial under any standard, so the court did not address this
    issue.
    As the People note, a Miranda error is a federal constitutional violation; it
    therefore requires reversal unless we can say that it was harmless beyond a reasonable
    doubt. (See generally Chapman v. California (1967) 
    386 U.S. 18
    , 24.) If defendant had
    Miranda rights at all, however, they did not derive from Miranda itself. Rather, they
    derived from the interaction between the federal right to equal protection and an NGI’s
    state statutory rights.
    Ordinarily, a violation of equal protection is also a federal constitutional violation;
    hence, it, too, is subject to the “beyond a reasonable doubt” harmless error standard.
    (People v. Taylor (1982) 
    31 Cal.3d 488
    , 501-502.) Here, however, if an NGI’s Miranda
    rights under state statute were violated, the violation would be one of state law. (See
    People v. Epps (2001) 
    25 Cal.4th 19
    , 29 [violation of state statutory right to jury trial was
    subject to state harmless error standard].) Therefore, the applicable harmless error
    standard would be whether there is a reasonable probability that the result would have
    been more favorable to the defendant in the absence of the error. (See generally People
    v. Watson (1956) 
    46 Cal.2d 818
    , 836.)
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    Unless the People can show otherwise on remand, defendant is entitled to be
    treated like an NGI. This means that he has Miranda rights; however, it also means that,
    if those Miranda rights are violated, the “reasonable probability” harmless error standard
    should apply. (See Conservatorship of E.B. (2020) 
    45 Cal.App.5th 986
    , 998, review
    granted June 24, 2020, S261812.)
    Even under this lower standard, however, there is a reasonable probability of a
    more favorable outcome if defendant’s confession had not been admitted.
    “‘A confession is like no other evidence. Indeed, “the defendant’s own confession
    is probably the most probative and damaging evidence that can be admitted against him
    . . . . [T]he admissions of a defendant come from the actor himself, the most
    knowledgeable and unimpeachable source of information about his past conduct.
    Certainly, confessions have profound impact on the jury, so much so that we may
    justifiably doubt its ability to put them out of mind even if told to do so.” [Citations.]
    . . . .’ [Citation.]” (People v. Bridgeford (2015) 
    241 Cal.App.4th 887
    , 904-905.)
    Here, in his confession, defendant admitted sexually abusing his own daughters in
    shockingly matter-of-fact terms. Even if all the factual information in it had been
    available from other sources, the confession would have tended to make the jury think
    that defendant was a very bad man who should be locked up.
    And defendant’s confession was not merely cumulative. It is true that without it,
    the prosecution still would have been able to prove that he had pleaded guilty to two
    counts of a forcible lewd act on C. In addition, as Dr. Vorwerk testified, the police had
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    interviewed C., and C. had recounted certain details of defendant’s sexual abuse of her
    and her sisters. But even if defendant’s confession merely corroborated C.’s account, it
    did so in a uniquely compelling way. And as Dr. Vorwerk put it, defendant’s confession
    not only corroborated C.’s statements, it “provided much more.” It included statements
    about his state of mind — statements on which Dr. Vorwerk relied in forming her
    opinions.
    For example, defendant told police that he knew what he was doing was illegal,
    but he felt it was not morally wrong. Dr. Vorwerk found that this was a cognitive
    distortion as well a sign of emotional impairment. He said he “got the idea it was okay”
    when he was in Georgia, because sex with children “was a way of life in Georgia.”
    Dr. Vorwerk identified this as another cognitive distortion.
    He said he had sex with his daughters daily and with his wife daily. In
    Dr. Vorwerk’s opinion, this showed hypersexuality.
    Defendant admitted having thought about “popping [his] daughter’s cherry.”
    Dr. Vorwerk found this “one of the most alarming things.” It was a sign of Pedophilic
    Disorder, as was his admission in his confession that he asked to see his wife’s eight-
    year-old sister’s genitals.
    Last but not least, defendant told police, “I could not stop it myself, so I asked
    them to stop me from doing it.” Dr. Vorwerk saw this as volitional impairment. Another
    sign of volitional impairment was the fact that, in his confession, defendant was “very
    apologetic and sorry,” yet in 2002, he reoffended. This evidence was particularly
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    prejudicial, because it showed that defendant had serious difficulty controlling his violent
    sexual impulses, as the Act requires. (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (c); People v.
    Krebs (2019) 
    8 Cal.5th 265
    , 326.)
    Admittedly, when Dr. Vorwerk interviewed defendant, he repeated some of these
    statements. However, he also denied others; he claimed that he sexually abused only C.,
    and her only once; he denied orally copulating any of his daughters. Dr. Vorwerk found
    these very contradictions “concerning,” because they showed denial or lack of insight,
    which in turn showed that he would not be motivated to seek out and to cooperate with
    treatment.
    Finally, the case against defendant was not overwhelming. Defense counsel and
    the two defense experts raised substantial questions about whether defendant actually
    committed the 2002 offenses. They made a strong showing that it was inappropriate for
    the prosecution experts to rely on dynamic factors to increase defendant’s risk above that
    shown by the Static-99R. And finally, they showed that defendant would be subject to
    stringent parole conditions, and they put it to the jury that these would prevent him from
    reoffending.
    We therefore conclude that, unless the People can demonstrate a constitutional
    justification for the distinction between the statutory Miranda rights of SVPs and NGIs,
    the admission of defendant’s confession prejudicially violated these rights.
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    In light of this conclusion, we need not address defendant’s alternative contention
    that, assuming equal protection requires him to be treated like an NGI, his confession was
    also inadmissible as involuntary.
    Under McKee I, the appropriate appellate remedy is to “remand to the trial court to
    permit the People the opportunity to justify the differential treatment in accord with
    established equal protection principles. [Citation.]” (McKee I, supra, 47 Cal.4th at
    p. 1184; see also id. at pp. 1208-1209.) In our disposition, we will do so.
    III
    THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE ACT
    Defendant contends that, for various reasons, the Act is unconstitutional.
    A.     Relevant Provisions of the Act.
    The Act provides for the civil commitment of sexually violent predators for the
    purpose of treatment. (Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 6604, 6606, subd. (a).)
    In an initial commitment proceeding, the trier of fact must “determine . . . , beyond
    a reasonable doubt, [that] the person is a sexually violent predator.” (Welf. & Inst. Code,
    § 6604.) “Sexually violent predator” is defined as “a person who has been convicted of a
    sexually violent offense against one or more victims and who has a diagnosed mental
    disorder that makes the person a danger to the health and safety of others in that it is
    likely that he or she will engage in sexually violent criminal behavior.” (Welf. & Inst.
    Code, § 6600, subd. (a)(1).)
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    Under the Act as first enacted, a commitment was for a two-year period; at the end
    of that time, if the People did not want the committee released, they had to file a new
    petition. (Welf. & Inst. Code, former § 6604, Stats. 1995, ch. 763, § 3, pp. 5925-5926.)
    This proved impracticable, and in 2006, Proposition 83 amended the Act so as to provide
    that the commitment is for an indeterminate term. (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6604.)
    B.      The Burden of Proof on a Conditional Release Petition
    As a Violation of Due Process.
    Unless the State Department of State Hospitals recommends that an SVPA
    committee be released (see Welf. & Inst. Code, §§ 6604.9, subd. (d), 6605), he or she
    cannot obtain unconditional release; he or she can obtain conditional release (Welf. &
    Inst. Code, § 6608) only by proving, by a preponderance of the evidence, “that
    conditional release to a less restrictive alternative is in [his or her] best interest . . . and
    that conditions can be imposed that would adequately protect the community . . . .” (Id.,
    subd. (k).)
    Defendant contends that the Act violates due process because a committee who
    brings a petition for conditional release has the burden of proof, by a preponderance of
    the evidence. (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6608, subd. (k).) As defendant argues, “once a
    person is committed, he can be held for years, for decades, for the rest of his life[,]
    without any requirement that the State prove that he remains mentally ill and dangerous.”
    We question whether this issue is ripe. This is an initial commitment proceeding,
    not a conditional release proceeding. Defendant may never file a conditional release
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    petition; if he does, he will be free to argue then that the statutory burden of proof is
    unconstitutional.
    In any event, as defendant acknowledges, the California Supreme Court rejected
    this very argument in McKee I. He claims that “the California Supreme Court erred on
    this issue.” As he also concedes, however, we are required to follow McKee I, even if we
    believe it is erroneous (which we do not). (Auto Equity Sales, Inc. v. Superior Court
    (1962) 
    57 Cal.2d 450
    , 455.)
    C.     Double Jeopardy.
    Defendant contends that, as a result of Proposition 83’s amendments in 2006,
    making an SVP commitment indeterminate, the Act has become punitive and therefore
    criminal, and therefore it violates double jeopardy.
    As defendant forthrightly concedes, this contention has already been rejected by
    this court (People v. Taylor (2009) 
    174 Cal.App.4th 920
    , 936-937) as well as by other
    courts (People v. Field, supra, 1 Cal.App.5th at pp. 189-190 & fn. 5; People v.
    McDonald, supra, 214 Cal.App.4th at p. 1383; People v. Landau, supra, 214 Cal.App.4th
    at pp. 44-45.) In addition, in McKee I, the Supreme Court held that “the Proposition 83
    amendments do not make the Act punitive” for ex post facto purposes. (McKee I, supra,
    47 Cal.4th at p. 1195.) We see no way it can be punitive for double jeopardy purposes,
    but not for ex post facto purposes. We reject this contention summarily for the reasons
    stated in those cases.
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    D.     Vagueness of the Word “Likely.”
    Defendant contends that “likely,” as used in the phrase “it is likely that he or she
    will engage in sexually violent criminal behavior” (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd.
    (a)(1)), is unconstitutionally vague.
    Preliminarily, the People respond that defendant forfeited this contention by
    failing to raise it below. However, a claim that a statute is unconstitutionally vague on its
    face (rather than as applied) presents a pure question of law that may be raised for the
    first time on appeal. (See In re Sheena K. (2007) 
    40 Cal.4th 875
    , 880-889.)
    A statute is so vague as to violate due process if it “‘forbids or requires the doing
    of an act in terms so vague’ that people of ‘common intelligence must necessarily guess
    at its meaning and differ as to its application.’ [Citations.]” (People v. Hall (2017) 
    2 Cal.5th 494
    , 500.)
    “Only a reasonable degree of certainty is required, however. [Citation.] The
    analysis begins with ‘the strong presumption that legislative enactments “must be upheld
    unless their unconstitutionality clearly, positively, and unmistakably appears. [Citations.]
    A statute should be sufficiently certain so that a person may know what is prohibited
    thereby and what may be done without violating its provisions, but it cannot be held void
    for uncertainty if any reasonable and practical construction can be given to its language.”’
    [Citation.]” (Tobe v. City of Santa Ana (1995) 
    9 Cal.4th 1069
    , 1107.)
    Our Supreme Court has defined “likely” in this context as follows: “[A] person is
    ‘likely [to] engage in sexually violent criminal behavior’ if . . . the person . . . present[s] a
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    substantial danger, that is, a serious and well-founded risk, of committing such crimes if
    released from custody.” (People v. Roberge (2003) 
    29 Cal.4th 979
    , 988.)
    Defendant argues that “[w]hat a risk must be to be ‘serious,’ to be ‘substantial,’ to
    be ‘well-founded,’ are questions of law upon which the minds of individual jurors might
    vary widely.” He suggests that the statute is vague because it lacks a “quantitative
    standard[] of risk.”
    “‘The law is replete with instances in which a person must, at his peril, govern his
    conduct by such nonmathematical standards as “reasonable,” “prudent,” “necessary and
    proper,” “substantial,” and the like. Indeed, a wide spectrum of human activities is
    regulated by such terms: thus one man may be given a speeding ticket if he
    overestimates the “reasonable or prudent” speed to drive his car in the circumstances
    [citation], while another may be incarcerated in state prison on a conviction of willful
    homicide if he misjudges the “reasonable” amount of force he may use in repelling an
    assault [citation]. . . . “There is no formula for the determination of reasonableness.” Yet
    standards of this kind are not impermissi[b]ly vague, provided their meaning can be
    objectively ascertained by reference to common experiences of mankind.’ [Citation.]”
    (People v. Morgan (2007) 
    42 Cal.4th 593
    , 606.)
    Statutes using similar terms, such as “probability” and “danger,” have been upheld
    as not unconstitutionally vague.
    In Jurek v. Texas (1976) 
    428 U.S. 262
    , a majority of the United States Supreme
    Court held that “‘whether there is a probability that the defendant would commit criminal
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    acts of violence that would constitute a continuing threat to society’” (id. at p. 272) — a
    finding that Texas required for the death penalty — was not unconstitutionally vague.
    (Id. at pp. 274-276 [lead opn. of Stewart, J, joined by Powell, and Stevens, JJ.], 278-279
    [conc. opn. of White, J., joined by Burger, and Rehnquist, JJ.]) The lead opinion stated:
    “It is, of course, not easy to predict future behavior. The fact that such a determination is
    difficult, however, does not mean that it cannot be made. Indeed, prediction of future
    criminal conduct is an essential element in many of the decisions rendered throughout our
    criminal justice system. The decision whether to admit a defendant to bail, for instance,
    must often turn on a judge’s prediction of the defendant’s future conduct. And any
    sentencing authority must predict a convicted person’s probable future conduct when it
    engages in the process of determining what punishment to impose. For those sentenced
    to prison, these same predictions must be made by parole authorities. The task that a
    Texas jury must perform in answering the statutory question in issue is thus basically no
    different from the task performed countless times each day throughout the American
    system of criminal justice.” (Ibid., fns. omitted.)7
    People v. Flores (2014) 
    227 Cal.App.4th 1070
     held that whether a person poses
    “an unreasonable risk of danger to public safety” is not unconstitutionally vague. (Id. at
    pp. 1074-1075.) “The word ‘unreasonable’ ‘“is a widely used and well understood word
    7      The concurring opinion stated: “I agree with [the lead opinion] that the
    issues posed in the sentencing proceeding have a common-sense core of meaning and that
    criminal juries should be capable of understanding them.” (Jurek v. Texas, 
    supra,
     428
    U.S. at pp. 278-279 [conc. opn. of White, J.].)
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    and clearly so when juxtaposed”’ with ‘risk of danger.’ [Citations.]” (Id. at p. 1075;
    accord, People v. Garcia (2014) 
    230 Cal.App.4th 763
    , 768-770.)
    And of particular relevance here, People v. Kirk (1975) 
    49 Cal.App.3d 765
     held
    that “dangerous,” as used in the definition of a mentally disordered sex offender, is not
    unconstitutionally vague. (Id. at pp. 768-772.) “Webster’s Third New International
    Dictionary defines ‘dangerous’ as ‘able or likely to inflict injury: causing or threatening
    harm.’ Such a meaning is one commonly understood by people of reasonable
    intelligence.” (Id. at p. 769; see also Rupf v. Yan (2000) 
    85 Cal.App.4th 411
    , 423-427
    [whether person would present a danger to him or herself or others if firearm is returned
    is not unconstitutionally vague]; People v. Alvas (1990) 
    221 Cal.App.3d 1459
    , 1466-1467
    [“dangerousness,” when defined as “the potential for infliction of substantial harm upon
    the defendant himself or upon others,” is not unconstitutionally vague], disapproved on
    other grounds by People v. Barrett (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 1081
    , 1106.)
    Here, “danger,” in the definition of “likely,” does not stand alone; there must be a
    “substantial danger.” Likewise, “risk” does not stand alone; there must be “a serious and
    well-founded risk.” These are all commonly understood terms, with dictionary
    definitions. They are not vague just because they cannot be readily translated into
    quantitative standards.
    Defendant relies on Johnson v. United States (2015) 
    576 U.S. 591
    . There, the
    Supreme Court held that the so-called “residual clause” of the Armed Career Criminal
    Act was unconstitutionally vague. That clause prohibited the possession of firearms by a
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    person convicted of a felony that “‘involves conduct that presents a serious potential risk
    of physical injury to another.’” (Id. at p. 594, italics omitted.)
    It was central to the court’s analysis that it had previously held that, in applying
    the residual clause, a court must assess the risk presented by the felony “‘in terms of how
    the law defines the offense and not in terms of how an individual offender might have
    committed it on a particular occasion.’ [Citation.]” (Johnson v. United States, 
    supra,
    576 U.S. at p. 596.) To put it another way, the residual clause “requires a court to picture
    the kind of conduct that the crime involves in ‘the ordinary case,’ and to judge whether
    that abstraction presents a serious potential risk of physical injury. [Citation.]” (Ibid.)
    The court concluded that the residual clause was vague in two mutually
    reinforcing respects. First, it was not clear how to determine how much risk a given
    felony presented. “[W]hat kind of conduct the ‘ordinary case’ of a crime involves” was
    vague; also, “assessing ‘potential risk’ seemingly requires the judge to imagine how the
    idealized ordinary case of the crime subsequently plays out.” (Johnson v. United States,
    
    supra,
     576 U.S. at p. 597.) Second, it was not clear “how much risk it takes” for a felony
    to qualify. (Id. at p. 598.) “By combining indeterminacy about how to measure the risk
    posed by a crime with indeterminacy about how much risk it takes for the crime to
    qualify as a violent felony, the residual clause produces more unpredictability and
    arbitrariness than the Due Process Clause tolerates.” (Id. at p. 598.)
    The court cautioned, however: “As a general matter, we do not doubt the
    constitutionality of laws that call for the application of a qualitative standard such as
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    ‘substantial risk’ to real-world conduct; ‘the law is full of instances where a man’s fate
    depends on his estimating rightly . . . some matter of degree,’ [citation].” (Johnson v.
    United States, 
    supra,
     576 U.S. at pp. 603-604.) Similarly, while it held that “serious
    potential risk” was vague, it limited that holding to the context in which it arose: “It is
    one thing to apply an imprecise ‘serious potential risk’ standard to real-world facts; it is
    quite another to apply it to a judge-imagined abstraction.” (Id. at p. 598.)
    Johnson is obviously distinguishable, because here, the test of whether the
    defendant is likely to engage in sexually violent criminal behavior is applied to a real-
    world person and his real-world conduct, not to a hypothetical abstraction.
    People v. White (2016) 
    3 Cal.App.5th 433
     held that “sexually violent criminal
    behavior” is not unconstitutionally vague. (Id. at pp. 453-456.) In the process, it also
    concluded that “likely” is not unconstitutionally vague, distinguishing Johnson: “That
    portion of the SVPA requiring evidence that a defendant is likely to engage in sexually
    violent criminal behavior suffers from neither of the defects identified in Johnson. There
    is no uncertainty regarding the risk involved in sexually violent criminal behavior. Under
    the SVPA, ‘a person is “likely [to] engage in sexually violent criminal behavior” if at trial
    the person is found to present a substantial danger, that is, a serious and well-founded
    risk, of committing such crimes if released from custody. [Fn. omitted.]’ [Citation.] The
    required factual determination lacks the uncertainty deemed fatal to the statute in
    Johnson.” (Id. at p. 455.)
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    We therefore conclude that “likely,” as used in Welfare and Institutions Code
    section 6600, subdivision (a), and as defined by the California Supreme Court, is not
    unconstitutionally vague.
    E.     Vagueness of the Words “Casual Acquaintance.”
    Defendant contends that “casual acquaintance,” as used in the Act, is
    unconstitutionally vague.
    Once again (see part III.D, ante), the People respond that defendant forfeited this
    contention by failing to raise it below. But, once again, a facial vagueness claim may be
    raised for the first time on appeal. (See In re Sheena K., supra, 40 Cal.4th at pp. 880-
    889.)
    The Act “contains an implied requirement that a trier of fact must find beyond a
    reasonable doubt that the defendant is likely to commit sexually violent predatory
    criminal acts before the defendant can be committed as a sexually violent predator.”
    (People v. Hurtado (2002) 
    28 Cal.4th 1179
    , 1186.)
    “Predatory” is defined as “directed toward a stranger, a person of casual
    acquaintance with whom no substantial relationship exists, or an individual with whom a
    relationship has been established or promoted for the primary purpose of victimization.”
    (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (e), italics added.)
    “[I]n evaluating challenges based on claims of vagueness, . . . ‘[t]he particular
    context is all important.’ [Citation.]” (People ex rel. Gallo v. Acuna (1997) 
    14 Cal.4th 1090
    , 1116.) Here, the whole phrase is “a person of casual acquaintance with whom no
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    substantial relationship exists.” This is contrasted with “a stranger” on the one hand, and
    “an individual with whom a relationship has been established” on the other hand. Thus, a
    “casual acquaintance” is someone the defendant knows, but with whom the defendant has
    no substantial, established relationship.
    Defendant’s contention, then, reduces to a claim that “substantial” is vague. This
    claim has repeatedly been rejected. “The word ‘substantial’ is not vague, overbroad, or
    ambiguous. [Citations.] It requires no further definition, is readily understandable, and
    has no technical meaning peculiar to the law.” (People v. Boyce (2014) 
    59 Cal.4th 672
    ,
    711; see, e.g., People v. Morgan, supra, 42 Cal.4th at pp. 606-607 [“substantial
    distance”]; People v. Silver (1991) 
    230 Cal.App.3d 389
    , 393-395 [“substantially
    similar”].)
    Dr. Vorwerk opined that defendant was likely to reoffend in a predatory manner,
    because in his 2002 offenses, “[h]e did not have a close relationship with those girls . . . .
    They were casual acquaintances that he had as neighbors. So that would technically be
    considered predatory.” Dr. Murphy agreed, at least implicitly, by testifying that, in the
    absence of the 2002 offenses, there would be no evidence that defendant had engaged in
    predatory behavior.
    Defendant complains that it was not clear, on this record, whether he and the
    neighbor girls were casual acquaintances. The evidence showed that he talked to them
    often from his upstairs window when they were playing downstairs and he claimed to
    have babysat them (he did not say how often). In our view, this made them casual
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    acquaintances as a matter of law. But even assuming that reasonable minds could
    disagree — in this particular case, or in some other hypothetical case — that is not
    enough to make the term unconstitutionally vague. (See Buhl v. Hannigan (1993) 
    16 Cal.App.4th 1612
    , 1622-1623.)
    IV
    THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE EVIDENCE
    Defendant contends that, for various reasons, there was insufficient evidence that
    he was an SVP.
    “‘When an appellant asserts there is insufficient evidence to support the judgment,
    our review is circumscribed. [Citation.] We review the whole record most favorably to
    the judgment to determine whether there is substantial evidence — that is, evidence that
    is reasonable, credible, and of solid value — from which a reasonable trier of fact could
    have made the requisite finding under the governing standard of proof.’ [Citation.]”
    (People v. Flores (2006) 
    144 Cal.App.4th 625
    , 632.) “‘In reviewing the record to
    determine the sufficiency of the evidence this court may not redetermine the credibility of
    witnesses, nor reweigh any of the evidence, and must draw all reasonable inferences, and
    resolve all conflicts, in favor of the judgment.’ [Citation.]” (People v. Sumahit (2005)
    
    128 Cal.App.4th 347
    , 352.)
    A.     The Sufficiency of the Evidence That Defendant Was “Likely” to Reoffend.
    Defendant contends that there was insufficient evidence that he was “likely to
    engage in sexually violent criminal behavior.” (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (a)(1).)
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    He argues that there was no evidence that he had any numerical probability of
    reoffending higher than 13 percent, and that 13 percent is insufficient.
    As discussed in part III.D, ante, “likely” is a qualitative, not a quantitative, term.
    “The word ‘likely,’ as used in the statute, . . . must be construed in light of the
    ‘difficulties inherent in predicting human behavior’ [citation], particularly in
    mathematical terms.” (People v. Superior Court (Ghilotti) (2002) 
    27 Cal.4th 888
    , 921.)
    “[T]he phrase ‘likely to engage in acts of sexual violence’ . . . connotes much more than
    the mere possibility that the person will reoffend as a result of a predisposing mental
    disorder that seriously impairs volitional control.” (Id. at p. 922.) But it “does not mean
    the risk of reoffense must be higher than 50 percent.” (Id. at p. 916; see also People v.
    Roberge, 
    supra,
     29 Cal.4th at p. 982.)
    In People v. McCloud, supra, 
    213 Cal.App.4th 1076
    , the appellate court held that
    there was substantial evidence that it was “likely that [the defendant] will reoffend by
    engaging in sexually violent acts.” (Id. at p. 1090.) It noted that two experts had
    “expressed their opinion that McCloud’s paraphilia NOS [i.e., not otherwise specified]
    affected his volitional capacity and predisposed him to commit sexually violent acts.
    McCloud’s difficulty controlling his behavior was evidenced by the fact that he had
    committed rapes in the past, had been sanctioned with long term imprisonment, and had
    nevertheless reoffended shortly after his release. McCloud’s [antisocial personality
    disorder] also impaired his volitional capacity, making him more impulsive and therefore
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    more likely to act on his paraphilic urges.” (Ibid.) The experts also “explained that
    paraphilia NOS is chronic and generally does not abate without intervention.” (Ibid.)
    Defendant’s claim that the evidence showed at most a 13 percent chance of
    reoffending ignores much of the record. Dr. Vorwerk testified that, because defendant
    was in the high-risk/high needs group, his Static-99R score of zero meant that he had a 13
    percent chance of reoffending in ten years. She added, however, that this meant that, 95
    percent of the time, his actual risk of reoffense would be somewhere between 7.9 and
    20.5 percent.
    Dr. Vorwerk also testified that the Static-99R underestimated the actual risk. It
    systematically underestimates recidivism, in that some new sex crimes go unreported or
    unsolved.8 While there was some evidence that it may, in other ways, systematically
    overestimate recidivism, the jury was free to put less weight on this evidence.
    Moreover, Dr. Vorwerk testified that defendant’s individual risk was higher than
    the Static-99R would indicate. He suffered from emotional impairment, which meant
    that he did not understand that he was causing someone harm. He also suffered from
    volitional impairment, meaning serious difficulty controlling his behavior. His particular
    mental disorders — Pedophilic Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder — were
    chronic and resistant to treatment. In any event, he was only in the beginning stages of
    8      In his reply brief, defendant argues that the jury could not consider this
    systematic underestimation unless there was evidence of the percentage of new unsolved
    sex crimes that were committed by recidivists. Not so. One need only assume this
    percentage is not zero — a reasonable assumption.
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    sex offender treatment, and he was shunning ancillary treatment for distorted thinking,
    cognitive impairment, coping skills, empathy, and anger management. He had had no
    release plan. He lacked insight. Dr. Vorwerk also considered his substance abuse,
    number of criminal sexual acts, betrayal of a victim’s trust, and uncharged violence.
    Dr. Brook relied on both the Static-99R and the Static-2002R. Defendant’s score
    on the latter was higher; Dr. Brook testified that it represented average risk, although he
    did not quantify that. Like Dr. Vorwerk, he testified that defendant’s individual risk was
    higher than these tests indicated, and for many of the same reasons. Defendant was
    emotionally impaired and volitionally impaired. Both of his mental disorders were
    chronic. He had not completed either sexual offender treatment or ancillary treatment.
    Defendant’s “intimacy deficits” also made him more likely to reoffend.
    Summing up, Dr. Brook testified that defendant was likely to reoffend because:
    “[H]e has committed multiple crimes multiple times, committed them again at a much
    later age, despite knowing what the consequences could be, his lack of empathy for his
    victims, his lack of acknowledgment for giving different stories for the first set of crimes,
    his complete absolute denial of the second set of crimes, his unpredictability in the open
    community in terms of following normal conventions and societal expectations, as well
    as some legal expectations.”
    This expert testimony not only paralleled that in McCloud, but went far beyond it.
    It provided ample grounds to conclude that defendant’s actual risk was much greater than
    the 7.9 to 20.5 percent that his Static-99R score indicated.
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    In a subsidiary contention, defendant also argues that, if he can be found to be an
    SVP based on a 13 percent probability of reoffending, then the Act violates due process,
    because it is not narrowly tailored to a compelling state interest. We need not reach this
    argument, because the evidence here showed that defendant’s actual risk, although not
    quantified (and probably not quantifiable), was well above 13 percent.
    B.     The Sufficiency of the Evidence of a “Well-Founded” Risk
    That Defendant Would Reoffend.
    Defendant contends that there was insufficient evidence of a “well-founded” risk
    that he would commit sexually violent crimes if released from custody. He points out
    that his score of zero on the Static-99R indicated below-average risk. As discussed in
    part IV.A, ante, both prosecution experts opined that he presented a greater risk than his
    Static-99R score would suggest. Defendant argues, however, that these opinions lacked
    foundation, for multiple reasons.
    The governing rule is that “‘[t]he credibility and weight of the expert testimony
    was for the jury to determine, and it is not up to us to reevaluate it.’ [Citation.]” (People
    v. Garcia (2020) 
    46 Cal.App.5th 123
    , 174.) As long as it was not speculative or lacking
    foundation, it constituted substantial evidence. (See People v. Wright (2016) 
    4 Cal.App.5th 537
    , 545.)
    1.     Foundation for using a given factor to increase risk.
    Defendant argues that an expert could not use a given factor (e.g., his relationship
    issues) to increase his risk, in the absence of evidence that that factor was “unusual” or
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    “generally lacking” in the Static-99R sample. He also argues that an expert could not use
    a factor to increase his risk unless there was evidence that it was “highly correlated” with
    an increased risk.
    While such evidence might have made the prosecution experts’ opinions even
    more credible, it was not required.
    The prosecution experts’ opinion that defendant presented more risk than his
    Static-99R score alone would indicate could have been based on three different kinds of
    factors: (1) factors that had been statistically shown to be predictive; (2) factors that had
    been statistically shown to be not predictive; and (3) factors that had no statistical support
    either way. We will discuss these seriatim.
    a.      Factors statistically shown to be predictive.
    Dr. Vorwerk relied on the fact that defendant’s score on the SRA-FV placed him
    in the high-risk/high-needs group. The Static-99R had been applied to two different
    sample groups, the routine group and the high-risk/high-needs group; it had been shown
    that, if a member of the routine group and a member of the high-risk/high-needs group
    both had a score of zero, the latter was roughly two and a half times more likely to
    reoffend.
    Defendant complains about a long list of factors on which Dr. Vorwerk relied.9
    Dr. Vorwerk testified, however, that she considered each of these factors because they
    9       Specifically, “aggression, relational issues,” “how many child victims
    appellant had, appellant’s diagnosis of pedophilic disorder, the fact that appellant ‘had a
    lot of sexual contacts per day back in the ‘80’s,’ appellant’s ‘sexualized violence,’ ‘how
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    were relevant under the SRA-FV. And the SRA-FV was relevant to whether defendant
    fell in the high-risk/high-needs group, which in turn was relevant to his risk of
    reoffending.10
    Dr. Vorwerk also based her opinion on the fact that defendant’s hypersexuality
    had not changed, there was no evidence that he was less attracted to children, and that his
    medical conditions would not prevent him from being aggressive and sexually active.
    However, she did not use these factors to increase his risk above his Static-99R results;
    rather, she used them to show that he had no protective factors that would reduce his risk
    below his Static-99R results. Thus, defendant’s argument that most sex offenders in the
    Static-99R sample probably also had no medical condition that would prevent them from
    being sexually active is off the mark.
    his daughters endured beatings with belts and paddles,’ how appellant ‘had naked
    pictures of his daughters,’ ‘as well as the pornographic magazines and videos,’
    appellant’s ‘rules violations in state prison for possession of pornography,’ and ‘that in
    his early 50’s, he even had sex with his in-home healthcare provider’”; “‘[i]s the person
    able to have long-term relationships in terms of a romantic partner? Was it a caring,
    loving, inmate [sic] relationship, or was it abusive and had a lot of problems between . . .
    the partners?’”; and “that appellant ‘has issues about feeling wronged by others and
    externalizing blame, not taking responsibility for his offenses and for his behavior in the
    hospital.’”
    10      Defendant argues that the SRA-FV cannot show a “well-founded” risk. He
    argues that it was based on a study of a single sample, and that the researchers who
    developed the Static-99R decided not to use that sample. Dr. Vorwerk conceded that
    there were “issues” as to whether the results of the study “can be generalized to modern
    SVP[s]” and that this was a “limitation” of the SRA-FV. Nevertheless, she evidently
    considered the SRA-FV reliable, and we cannot say that she was wrong as a matter of
    law. This is a factual argument for a jury, not a legal argument for a court.
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    Like Dr. Vorwerk, Dr. Brook also relied on statistically validated factors extrinsic
    to the Static-99R. He cited two factors that were not in the Static-99R but were in the
    Static-2002R: having at least two victims under 12, at least one of which is unrelated to
    the perpetrator; and community supervision violations.
    b.     Factors statistically shown to be not predictive.
    The experts were unanimous that studies showed that four factors did not increase
    risk: (1) denial of the offense, (2) minimizing culpability, (3) lack of empathy with the
    victim, and (4) lack of motivation for treatment. Defendant claims that the prosecution
    experts nevertheless relied on these factors.
    He points to Dr. Vorwerk’s testimony that defendant’s psychopathy gave her
    “concern” about his risk of reoffending because “he does not feel any guilt or remorse for
    offending against others. There’s no learned consequence of not doing it again. He does
    not have remorse or any sort of empathy about reoffending . . . .” While this did refer to
    empathy, in passing, empathy was not central. Dr. Vorwerk could properly rely on
    defendant’s psychopathy because it involved lack of guilt, remorse, and inability to learn
    from consequences. Unlike empathy, there was no evidence that these — or psychopathy
    as a whole — were not predictive factors.11
    11      Defendant claims Dr. Vorwerk testified that there was no correlation
    between remorse and likelihood of reoffending. Not so. She was asked: “[O]bviously
    it’s good to have remorse[,] regret and empathy but . . . low victim empathy is not related
    to reoffending sexually, right?” (Italics added.) She agreed. This question did not
    actually ask about remorse, which is different from victim empathy.
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    Defendant also complains that Dr. Vorwerk considered defendant “‘externalizing
    blame, not taking responsibility for his offenses and for his behavior in the hospital.’” As
    he points out, the experts agreed that the denial of a sex offense was not a risk factor.
    However, it is one thing to deny a sex offense, and another thing to externalize the blame
    for it — i.e., to admit committing it, but to blame someone or something else. Moreover,
    defendant had a pattern of externalizing blame, not just for the sex offenses, but for his
    every failing. Dr. Vorwerk testified that this pattern was relevant under the SRA-FV; her
    testimony was not contradictory.
    Admittedly, Dr. Brook did rely, in part, on two of these factors — lack of empathy
    and denial. He admitted that a study had found that they were not correlated with
    increased risk. He implied, however, that he disagreed with (or at least was not
    convinced by) the study. Thus, his testimony was not internally inconsistent.
    Most important, even assuming he did contradict himself on this point, there was
    still ample evidence that defendant had a greater risk of reoffending than his Static-99R
    score would suggest. One could throw out all of Dr. Brook’s testimony, yet still come to
    that conclusion based on Dr. Vorwerk’s testimony. Or one could throw out his reliance
    on lack of empathy and denial, yet still accept his ultimate opinion.
    c.     Factors not statistically supported.
    Both experts considered some factors that (at least as far as the record shows) had
    never been statistically assessed. Dr. Vorwerk considered psychopathy, substance abuse,
    number of criminal sexual acts, betrayal of a victim’s trust, uncharged violence, and lack
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    of insight. Dr. Brook considered the commission of multiple sex crimes, reoffending “at
    a much later age, despite knowing what the consequences could be,” giving conflicting
    accounts of the crimes, and “unpredictability” in following conventional community
    expectations.
    We recognize that “[a]n expert’s opinion is only as good as the facts upon which
    his or her opinion is based.” (In re Welch (2015) 
    61 Cal.4th 489
    , 510.) However, “[a]
    physician is not required to personally replicate all medical experiments dating back to
    the time of Galen in order to relate generally accepted medical knowledge that will assist
    the jury in deciding the case at hand. An expert’s testimony as to information generally
    accepted in the expert’s area, or supported by his own experience, may usually be
    admitted to provide specialized context the jury will need to resolve an issue.” (People v.
    Sanchez (2016) 
    63 Cal.4th 665
    , 675.)
    Both prosecution experts were experienced SVP evaluators. Based solely on their
    training and experience, they could form a valid opinion that (1) the average sex offender
    is not a psychopath, and (2) a sex offender who is also a psychopath is more likely to
    reoffend. This would not necessarily have to be shown by a randomized, well-controlled
    statistical study. By way of analogy, a doctor can form the valid opinion that a certain
    drug is appropriate for an off-label use, even though that use has never been formally
    studied. Certainly either opinion would be more persuasive if it were supported by a
    study. And certainly either expert could be cross-examined about the basis for the
    opinion. Defense experts could even testify that a given factor had not been statistically
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    validated. The absence of a study, however, goes to the weight, not the admissibility of
    the opinion.
    Defendant argues: “Given the years of study that have gone into the identification
    of those sexual offenders who are likely to reoffend, the thousands of sex offenders who
    have been studied, and the many factors considered, it would be quite surprising that
    factors of such powerful predictive value had not been discussed and included in the
    Static-99R.” (Citation omitted.) That may a good argument to make to a jury, but the
    experts’ opinions are still substantial evidence.
    Defendant’s argument that a factor cannot be used to increase risk unless it has
    been shown to be “generally lacking” in the Static-99R sample is mathematically
    unfounded. Even if (1) substance abuse increases risk, and (2) 99 percent of the members
    of the sample were substance abusers, defendant himself was 100 percent a substance
    abuser. Thus, it would still follow that his substance abuse increased his risk over that of
    the sample — although only a tiny bit. The fewer members of the sample who were
    substance abusers, the more it increased defendant’s risk. An experienced SVP evaluator
    might have a sound clinical sense that substance abuse is not so prevalent among sex
    offenders as to be useless in identifying higher-risk sex offenders.
    2.    The propriety of using clinical judgment.
    Defendant argues that the evidence showed that it was inappropriate to depart
    from the Static-99R based on clinical judgment.
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    Dr. Vorwerk agreed that “the history of risk assessment is replete with examples in
    which actuarial procedures outperform unstructured professional judgment.” However,
    she did not concede that this was one of those examples. This is another argument that
    would be better made to a jury. A qualified expert SVP evaluator’s clinical judgment
    regarding an SVP’s level of risk is nevertheless substantial evidence.
    She also testified: “[A]nytime you are overriding what a score is, that is less
    reliable than if you’re going with what the score says.” But she added: “[I]n the case
    [of] Mr. Grimes, he did get a score of 0. There was no overriding that or throwing that
    out.” Plainly, by “overriding,” she meant changing the Static-99R numerical score; she
    did not mean departing from the Static-99R’s resulting estimated level of risk.
    3.     Reliance on the SRA-FV.
    Defendant challenges Dr. Vorwerk’s reliance on the SRA-FV to place him in the
    high-needs/high risk group, citing her admission that “the ability of evaluators [t]o
    improve accuracy by choosing reference groups has yet to be empirically tested[.]”
    Actually, she was agreeing with an article that stated, “Although we recommend the
    comprehensive evaluations, consider[ing] both reference groups, the ability of evaluators
    [t]o improve accuracy by choosing reference groups has yet to be empirically tested[.]”
    (Italics added.) In other words, in the professional judgment of both Dr. Vorwerk and the
    author of the article, it was appropriate to consider the high-needs/high risk group, even
    in the absence of a formal study. Defendant’s argument on this point is yet another
    factual argument better directed to a jury.
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    4.     Reliance on defendant’s sexual abuse of R. and H.
    Defendant also criticizes Dr. Vorwerk’s reliance on his 2002 conviction because
    she testified that there was no way to know whether he actually sexually abused R. and
    H. Her actual testimony on this point was: “There is no way for us to know. Only
    Mr. Grimes, sitting here today, knows whether that happened. What I have is the police
    reports that both victims are reporting that he sexually abused them. We have his
    conviction that he’s pleading guilty, in essence saying that he did it. That’s the
    information that I have to work with to make my assessment.” (Italics added.) Defense
    expert Dr. Jeko agreed that she had to assume the 2002 sexual abuse actually occurred.
    Defendant is raising the old epistemological quibble, “Can we ever really know
    anything?” The answer is that Dr. Vorwerk could know well enough to render an expert
    opinion, and the jury could know well enough to decide whether to accept her opinion.
    5.     Reversing the burden of proof.
    Defendant criticizes Dr. Vorwerk’s opinion that he was currently “hypersexual”
    because it was based on his conduct in 1989. She added that “[w]e have no objective
    measures that have shown that his sexual attractions towards children have gone down.”
    Defendant characterizes this as reversing the burden of proof. However, it is a
    “permissible inference that a condition established to have existed at one point in time
    continues as long as is usual with things of that nature. [Citations.]” (People v. Glover
    (1967) 
    257 Cal.App.2d 502
    , 512.) Defendant failed to rebut this inference.
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    6.     Reliance on past dynamic factors.
    Defendant argues that Dr. Vorwerk could not properly consider a dynamic factor
    without recent evidence of that factor. He complains that Dr. Vorwerk considered the
    fact that his relationship with his wife and children was abusive, even though he had not
    lived with them since 1989, and how many child victims he had, even though he had not
    had any child victims since 2002.
    A dynamic factor is one that can change over time. This does not mean that it
    must have changed over time. If defendant had had a sixth child victim since 2002,
    surely Dr. Vorwerk would have considered that. The fact that he had not, however, did
    not preclude her from considering the fact that he had had five child victims.
    We also note that, even assuming she mislabeled a factor as dynamic when it was
    actually static, that would not preclude her from considering it. The distinction is not
    nearly as black and white as it might seem. For example, the Static-99R takes into
    account the subject’s present age, even though this, by definition, changes over time. In
    any event, Dr. Vorwerk could reasonably opine that a given static factor was relevant,
    even though it was not reflected in the Static-99R.
    C.     The Sufficiency of the Evidence That Defendant Was Likely to Commit a
    “Predatory” Sexual Offense.
    Defendant contends that there was insufficient evidence that any future sexually
    violent criminal behavior in which he was likely to engage would be predatory.
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    All four experts diagnosed defendant as having Pedophilic Disorder. In addition,
    he was “extremely hypersexual” and “sexually preoccupied.” His past offenses
    suggested that he was opportunistic. When his wife would not give him oral sex, he
    turned to his daughters, because they were available. Likewise, he victimized H., R., and
    his wife’s sister because they were available. As defendant puts it himself, “he targeted
    children he knew, children who were otherwise available.” To give him his due, there
    was no evidence that he was likely to target children who were strangers to him.
    But if he were released, the only children who would likely be available to him
    would be casual acquaintances, like R. and H.,12 or children with whom he cultivated a
    relationship for sexual purposes. If there were any children in his family, presumably
    they would be protected from him. If he formed a substantial relationship with a woman
    who had children, it would be hard for her to remain unaware that he was a sex offender,
    given the strict parole conditions to which he would be subject. Accordingly, he was
    likely to engage in sexually violent criminal behavior that would be predatory.
    D.     The Sufficiency of the Evidence of a “Current”
    Serious Difficulty in Controlling Behavior.
    Defendant contends that there was insufficient evidence that he had a “current”
    serious difficulty in controlling his sexually violent criminal behavior.
    12      Defendant asserts (although not under a separate heading) that there was
    insufficient evidence that R. and H. were casual acquaintances. However, as we held in
    part III.E, ante, they were casual acquaintances as a matter of law.
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    “[T]he [Act] requires a current diagnosis of a mental disorder and a finding that
    the committee is currently dangerous because he is likely to engage in sexually violent
    conduct in the future. [Citations.]” (People v. LaBlanc (2015) 
    238 Cal.App.4th 1059
    ,
    1075, italics added.)
    Defendant argues that evaluations, reports, or findings from several years before
    trial are not sufficient evidence. (E.g., Peters v. Superior Court (2000) 
    79 Cal.App.4th 845
    , 850.) That is beside the point. All four experts evaluated defendant shortly before
    trial and diagnosed him as having two current mental disorders: Pedophilic Disorder,
    plus either Antisocial Personality Disorder or Adjustment Disorder.
    Their evaluations were based, in part, on recent interviews with defendant, which
    showed that his Pedophilic Disorder was still current. For example, he told Dr. Vorwerk
    he wanted to “pop [his daughter’s] cherry,” while “laughing and smirking.” He also
    admitted seeing child pornography while in the hospital and even putting a child
    pornography video into his video player.13 Meanwhile, Dr. Vorwerk also administered
    the PCL-R, which showed a current “high degree of psychopathy.”
    According to Dr. Vorwerk, Pedophilic Disorder is not curable. It is “treatable with
    rigorous, intensive treatment over a long period of time, with the person engaging in that
    13     Defendant argues that this was not evidence of pedophilic behavior,
    because: (1) “[e]xposure to such pornography may be inevitable in a hospital that houses
    [SVPs]”; (2) “[t]here was no evidence that appellant watched the video”; and “[t]here
    was no evidence that appellant was written up for this . . . .” Even if child pornography is
    “floating around,” you don’t have to put it in your own personal video player. Whether
    he was written up is irrelevant.
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    treatment.” Similarly, Antisocial Personality Disorder “is chronic, enduring, and it just
    doesn’t go away unless you’re in rigorous treatment and desiring to change.” Defendant,
    however, had been in sex offender treatment only off and on, and only for two years. He
    was in “the beginning stage of treatment.” These facts supported the opinions that he had
    a current mental disorder.
    Defendant also argues that there was “no substantial evidence of pedophilia” since
    2002. This is essentially an argument that he had not engaged in any pedophilic behavior
    since 2002. However, from 2004 through 2016, he had been in prison, and since 2016,
    he had been committed to a state mental hospital. In other words, he had not had the
    opportunity to act on his pedophilic urges. The Act specifically provides that “‘[d]anger
    to the health and safety of others’ does not require proof of a recent overt act while the
    offender is in custody.” (Welf. & Inst. Code, § 6600, subd. (d); see also People v. Felix
    (2008) 
    169 Cal.App.4th 607
    , 618-621 [due process does not require proof of a recent
    overt act while in custody].)
    Defendant asserts: “A condition that is current, intense and manifest by a lack of
    self-control is, by definition, hard to hide. If, in addition, it is chronic, then over an
    extended period of time one would expect it to manifest repeatedly. Over a period of 16
    years, if appellant truly had a condition that was ‘recurrent’ and ‘intense’ in the way that
    pedophilic disorder is described to be, then one would expect to see more than an
    occasional manifestation of it.”
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    Defendant’s attitude toward “popping [his daughter’s] cherry” and his possession
    of child pornography were both recent manifestations of pedophilic behavior. In any
    event, as to a person who is in prison or a mental hospital, the lack of access to children
    severely limits the possibilities of manifesting pedophilic behavior. We conclude that,
    because defendant had been institutionalized for a very long time, evidence of recent
    pedophilic behavior was not absolutely required. His current diagnoses, when combined
    with the evidence that these diagnoses are chronic, and that defendant was only beginning
    treatment, were sufficient to support the prosecution experts’ opinions that he had a
    current serious difficulty in controlling his behavior.
    Defendant cites People v. Buffington (1999) 
    74 Cal.App.4th 1149
    , in which the
    defendant argued that the Act violated equal protection because, unlike other civil
    commitment schemes, it did not require any current psychological symptoms or any
    recent overt act. (Id. at p. 1159.) The court held that the Act does, in fact, require
    “‘current psychological symptoms,’” “‘recent objective indicia of the defendant’s
    condition,’” and “a ‘recent objective basis for a finding that an inmate is likely to
    reoffend.’” (Id. at p. 1161.) It relied on the fact that the Act provides for current
    psychological evaluations before trial, in which the issue is whether the defendant is
    presently mentally disordered and dangerous, culminating in “a full-blown trial as to
    whether the requirements for classification as an SVP have been established ‘beyond a
    reasonable doubt.’ [Citations.]” (Id. at p. 1160.) Finally, it held that the other civil
    commitment schemes did not, in fact, require a recent overt act. (Id. at p. 1162.)
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    In other words, Buffington recognized that the Act applies only to a defendant who
    has a current mental disorder and who is currently dangerous; nevertheless, it held that no
    recent overt act is required. The requirement of “current psychological symptoms,”
    “recent objective indicia” and a “recent objective basis” can be satisfied by recent
    psychological evaluations of the defendant’s current mental state. And these may be
    based on past behavior, if prevailing psychological standards permit. Buffington says
    nothing to the contrary. Any requirement of recent pathological behavior would conflict
    with the Act’s provision — which Buffington confirmed — that no recent overt act is
    required.
    People v. Poe (1999) 
    74 Cal.App.4th 826
     is consistent with our reading of
    Buffington. It held that the Act “require[s] a ‘recent objective basis’ for commitment in
    the form of the determination of two experts, credited by the trier of fact, that ‘a subject
    presently suffers from a mental disorder which predisposes him to commit further
    sexually violent predatory crimes’ . . . .” (Id. at p. 833.) Such a “recent objective basis”
    can exist without any recent pathological behavior.
    V
    REFUSAL TO GIVE A PINPOINT INSTRUCTION REQUIRING “SERIOUS
    DIFFICULTY” IN CONTROLLING SEXUALLY VIOLENT BEHAVIOR
    Defendant contends that the trial court erred by refusing to give a pinpoint
    instruction to the effect that, for the jury to find that he was an SVP, “[defendant’s]
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    diagnosed mental disorder must cause [him] to have serious difficulty controlling his
    sexually violent behavior . . . .”
    A.      Additional Factual and Procedural Background.
    CALCRIM No. 3454, as ultimately given in this case, states that the People must
    prove, among other things, that the defendant “has a diagnosed mental disorder” and that
    “[a]s a result of that diagnosed mental disorder, he is a danger to the health and safety of
    others because it is likely that he will engage in sexually violent predatory criminal
    behavior.” It also states: “The term ‘diagnosed mental disorder’ includes conditions . . .
    that affect a person’s ability to control emotions and behavior and predispose that person
    to commit sexual acts to an extent that makes him . . . a menace to the health and safety
    of others.”
    Defense counsel’s motion in limine No. 113 asked that this instruction be
    modified by adding a requirement that “[defendant’s] diagnosed mental disorder must
    cause [him] to have serious difficulty controlling his sexually violent behavior . . . .” The
    trial court granted the motion.
    After both sides had rested, the trial court and counsel discussed the proposed
    instructions. The proposed version of CALCRIM No. 3454 did not include the “serious
    difficulty” language that defense counsel had requested.
    Defense counsel asked that the instruction be modified, but only to state that there
    had to be “much more than the mere possibility” that defendant would engage in sexually
    violent predatory criminal behavior. He commented, “I think it was actually in one of the
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    motions in limine, and I think your tentative ruling on that was that you would grant the
    motion.” He specifically cited motion in limine No. 113. He then asked the trial court to
    postpone ruling on his request, so he could provide additional authority and so defendant
    could be present.
    Two days later, the instructions conference resumed. At this point, the proposed
    instruction still did not include the “serious difficulty” language requested in the motion
    in limine; however, it did include the “much more than the mere possibility” language.
    The prosecutor said that she agreed with the modification. The trial court asked,
    “Anything else on the instructions at all that you’d like to discuss?” Defense counsel
    turned to a different issue.
    B.     Discussion.
    1.      Forfeiture.
    The People argue that defendant forfeited his request by failing to renew it at the
    instructions conference.
    Motions in limine are more typically used to raise evidentiary issues, rather than
    instructional issues. In the evidentiary context, a motion in limine is sufficient to
    preserve an issue for appeal if “(1) a specific legal ground for exclusion is advanced and
    subsequently raised on appeal; (2) the motion is directed to a particular, identifiable body
    of evidence; and (3) the motion is made at a time before or during trial when the trial
    judge can determine the evidentiary question in its appropriate context.” (People v.
    Morris (1991) 
    53 Cal.3d 152
    , 190, disapproved on unrelated grounds in People v.
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    Stansbury (1995) 
    9 Cal.4th 824
    , 830, fn. 1.) Otherwise, the objection must be renewed
    when the evidence is offered at trial. (Morris, supra, at p. 190.)
    Here, defendant requested the instruction for specific legal reasons, which are the
    same as he is raising on appeal. The request raised a question of law; it did not turn on
    the introduction of any particular evidence at trial. Thus, the trial court could make a
    final determination on it in limine. We conclude that the motion in limine was sufficient
    to preserve the request and that no further request was necessary.
    These facts, however, raise an additional issue: invited error. “‘The doctrine of
    invited error is designed to prevent an accused from gaining a reversal on appeal because
    of an error made by the trial court at his behest. If defense counsel intentionally caused
    the trial court to err, the appellant cannot be heard to complain on appeal.’ [Citation.]”
    (People v. Bailey (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 740
    , 753.) Defense counsel’s statements at the
    instructions conference indicated that he no longer wanted the “serious difficulty”
    modification; he wanted only the “much more than the mere possibility” modification.
    Admittedly, invited error “does not apply if defendant merely acquiesced in the
    absence of an instruction. [Citation.] ‘The record must reflect that counsel had a
    deliberate tactical purpose.’ [Citations.]” (People v. Bell (2019) 
    7 Cal.5th 70
    , 109.)
    However, such a tactical purpose is apparent from defense counsel’s closing argument.
    In it, he focused the jury on defendant’s statistical unlikelihood of reoffending and
    directed it away from defendant’s ability to control himself.
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    Thus, defense counsel’s theme was “Trust the numbers.” He asked the jury to set
    aside any emotions aroused by defendant’s character and actions, and to look instead at
    the cold hard statistics regarding defendant’s possibility of reoffending. For example, he
    said: “[T]his is the most important part of the case — is Mr. Grimes a risk to reoffend?
    Is he likely to reoffend in a sexually violent way? That is what this case is all about.” He
    referred again and again to the “much more than a mere possibility” language of the
    instruction. By contrast, he never argued that defendant lacked any “serious difficulty”
    controlling his behavior.
    In accordance with this strategy, defense counsel summed up by saying: “Is Mr.
    Grimes a convicted child molester? Yes, that’s true. Is Mr. Grimes a terrible father?
    Yes, that’s true. Is Mr. Grimes a grumpy old man? Yes, that’s true. But is Mr. Grimes
    likely to reoffend? No, that’s not true. Is Mr. Grimes a serious and well-founded risk?
    No, it’s not true.”
    The evidence that defendant had serious difficulty controlling his behavior, while
    perhaps not overwhelming, was likely to trigger the jury’s negative emotions.
    Defendant’s commission of loathsome sexual offenses against his own daughters was
    already significant evidence of lack of control. In addition, there was (1) the prosecution
    experts’ testimony that he was volitionally impaired, (2) his reoffenses in 2002, and (3)
    his fiery temper. Accordingly, defense counsel’s tactical decision was reasonable.
    We therefore conclude that defendant’s present contention is barred by invited
    error. If only out of an excess of caution, however, we also discuss it on the merits.
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    2.     The merits.
    In an SVP proceeding, just as in a criminal case, “‘[e]ven in the absence of a
    request, a trial court must instruct on general principles of law that are . . . necessary to
    the jury’s understanding of the case.’ [Citations.]” (People v. Roberge, 
    supra,
     29 Cal.4th
    at p. 988 [SVP proceeding].) “Where the trial court fails to give a necessary jury
    instruction in an SVP[] trial, the error is reversible unless it is shown to be harmless
    beyond a reasonable doubt under the standard established in Chapman v. California
    (1967) 
    386 U.S. 18
     . . . . [Citation.]” (People v. Fraser (2006) 
    138 Cal.App.4th 1430
    ,
    1456.)
    By contrast, “[p]inpoint instructions ‘relate particular facts to a legal issue in the
    case or “pinpoint” the crux of a defendant’s case, such as mistaken identification or alibi.
    [Citation.]” (People v. Wilkins (2013) 
    56 Cal.4th 333
    , 348.) “[S]uch a pinpoint
    instruction does not involve a ‘general principle of law’ as that term is used in the cases
    that have imposed a sua sponte duty of instruction on the trial court.” (People v. Saille
    (1991) 
    54 Cal.3d 1103
    , 1120.) “While a court may well have a duty to give a ‘pinpoint’
    instruction . . . , such ‘pinpoint’ instructions are not required to be given sua sponte and
    must be given only upon request.”’ [Citation.]” (People v. Anderson (2011) 
    51 Cal.4th 989
    , 996-997.) If the trial court erroneously refuses to give a pinpoint instruction,
    “reversal is required only if ‘it is reasonably probable that a result more favorable to the
    appealing party would have been reached in the absence of the error.’ [Citation.]”
    (People v. Wilkins, supra, at p. 349.)
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    Defendant seems confused about this distinction. He repeatedly characterizes the
    “serious difficulty” modification that he requested as a “pinpoint instruction.” However,
    he then argues that a serious difficulty in controlling one’s sexually violent behavior is an
    “element” of SVP status. Finally, he argues that the asserted error should be reviewed
    under Chapman.
    The modification was indeed a pinpoint instruction. In People v. Williams (2003)
    
    31 Cal.4th 757
    , the California Supreme Court held that a trial court in an SVP proceeding
    is not required to instruct that the prosecution must prove that the defendant has serious
    difficulty controlling his or her behavior. (Id. at p. 777.) It explained: “By its express
    terms, the SVPA limits persons eligible for commitment to those few who have already
    been convicted of violent sexual offenses against multiple victims [citation], and who
    have ‘diagnosed mental disorder[s]’ [citation] ‘affecting the emotional or volitional
    capacity’ [citation] that ‘predispose[] [them] to the commission of criminal sexual acts in
    a degree constituting [them] menace[s] to the health and safety of others’ [citation], such
    that they are ‘likely [to] engage in sexually violent criminal behavior’ [citation]. This
    language inherently encompasses and conveys to a fact finder the requirement of a
    mental disorder that causes serious difficulty in controlling one’s criminal sexual
    behavior. The SVPA’s plain words thus suffice ‘to distinguish the dangerous sexual
    offender whose serious mental illness, abnormality, or disorder subjects him to civil
    commitment from the dangerous but typical recidivist convicted in an ordinary criminal
    case.’ [Citation.]” (People v. Williams, 
    supra,
     31 Cal.4th at pp. 759-760.)
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    Defendant argues that Williams is irreconcilable with the decision of the United
    States Supreme Court in Kansas v. Crane (2002) 
    534 U.S. 407
    . The Williams court,
    however, considered Crane at length. (People v. Williams, 
    supra,
     31 Cal.4th at pp. 754,
    759, 769-778.) It “conclude[d] that a commitment rendered under the plain language of
    the SVPA necessarily encompasses a determination of serious difficulty in controlling
    one’s criminal sexual violence, as required by . . . Crane . . . . Accordingly, separate
    instructions . . . on that issue are not constitutionally required . . . .” (Id. at p. 777, fn.
    omitted.) We are bound by the California Supreme Court’s interpretation of prior
    decisions of the United States Supreme Court. (Tanguilig v. Bloomingdale’s, Inc. (2016)
    
    5 Cal.App.5th 665
    , 673; People v. Madrid (1992) 
    7 Cal.App.4th 1888
    , 1895.)
    A trial court can refuse to give a pinpoint instruction if it is duplicative. (People v.
    Mora and Rangel (2018) 
    5 Cal.5th 442
    , 499.) Under Williams, the requirement that the
    prosecution must prove that defendant has serious difficulty controlling his or her
    behavior is already adequately conveyed by the standard instruction. Accordingly, the
    trial court was not required to give defendant’s proposed modification. Moreover,
    because the standard instruction adequately conveyed this concept, defendant cannot
    show prejudice. It is axiomatic that “‘[w]e presume the jury understood and followed the
    court’s instructions.’ [Citation.]” (People v. Erskine (2019) 
    7 Cal.5th 279
    , 303.)
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    VI
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is reversed, subject to the following conditions. “On remand, the
    trial court is directed to conduct an evidentiary hearing at which the People will have the
    opportunity to show that the differential statutory treatment of SVP’s and NGI’s
    discussed herein is justified. If the trial court determines the People have carried their
    burden to do so, it shall [reinstate] its [judgment]. If it determines the People have not
    carried their burden, the trial court shall conduct a new [trial] . . . to determine whether
    [defendant] is an SVP.” (People v. Flint (2018) 
    22 Cal.App.5th 983
    , 1007.) In any such
    new trial, defendant’s 1989 confession must be excluded, unless there is some applicable
    exception to Miranda’s exclusionary rule (e.g., Harris v. New York (1971) 
    401 U.S. 222
    ,
    226 [statement obtained in violation of Miranda is admissible to impeach the defendant]),
    in which case defendant will be free to argue that his confession was involuntary.
    NOT TO BE PUBLISHED IN OFFICIAL REPORTS
    RAMIREZ
    P. J.
    We concur:
    CODRINGTON
    J.
    SLOUGH
    J.
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