People v. Hubbs CA4/1 ( 2023 )


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  • Filed 1/19/23 P. v. Hubbs CA4/1
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    COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION ONE
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,                                                          D077636
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.                                                         (Super. Ct. No. FBABS700108)
    NORMAN JAMES HUBBS,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Bernardino
    County, Lorenzo R. Balderrama, Judge. Affirmed.
    Rudy Kraft, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant
    and Appellant.
    Rob Bonta, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters and Charles C.
    Ragland, Assistant Attorneys General, Steve Oetting and Heather B.
    Arambarri, Deputy Attorneys General for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    Norman James Hubbs appeals a judgment committing him to the
    Department of State Hospitals in Coalinga, California for an indeterminate
    term for treatment and confinement as a sexually violent predator (SVP)
    under the Sexually Violent Predators Act (SVPA; Welf. & Inst. Code,1 § 6600
    et seq.) following a court finding that he is an SVP.
    Hubbs does not challenge the sufficiency of the evidence supporting the
    finding that he is an SVP. Instead, he contends: (1) the long delays in
    bringing his case to trial violated his due process rights; and, his counsel
    provided ineffective assistance by failing to file a motion to dismiss the
    petition based on the delays; (2) the trial court violated his due process right
    to counsel by denying his April 2019 Marsden motion (People v. Marsden
    (1970) 
    2 Cal.3d 118
     (Marsden)); (3) the trial court abused its discretion by
    admitting into evidence “tens of thousands of pages of exhibits without
    addressing or evaluating [his] objections,” thus violating his rights to due
    process and a fair trial; (4) the court erred by admitting into evidence case-
    specific hearsay in violation of People v. Sanchez (2016) 
    63 Cal.4th 665
    (Sanchez); and counsel provided ineffective assistance by failing to object to
    such evidence; (5) the court erred by denying his equal protection claim that
    the principles set forth in Crawford v. Washington (2004) 
    541 U.S. 36
    (Crawford) to the commitment of persons found not guilty of crimes by reason
    of insanity (NGI’s) in Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7), should
    also apply to SVPA proceedings; and (6) there was cumulative error. We
    affirm.
    1     Undesignated statutory references are to the Welfare and Institutions
    Code.
    2
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND2
    In July 1999, the People filed a petition to commit Hubbs as an SVP
    under former provisions of the SVPA. In July 2003, a jury found Hubbs to be
    an SVP and the trial court committed him to a state hospital for a two-year
    term. This court affirmed the commitment on direct appeal. (People v.
    Hubbs (Oct. 11, 2005, D043625) [nonpub. opn.] (Hubbs 1).) In March 2005,
    the People filed a petition to recommit Hubbs as an SVP under the former
    provisions of the SVPA. On April 13, 2006, a jury found Hubbs to be an SVP
    and the trial court recommitted him to a state hospital for another two-year
    term. On February 20, 2008, this court reversed the commitment and
    remanded the case for a new trial, finding that Hubbs’s counsel provided
    ineffective assistance by failing to request funding for and timely retain
    defense experts. (Hubbs 2, supra, D048607.)
    On March 27, 2007, the People filed another petition to recommit
    Hubbs as an SVP. They amended that petition to request an indeterminate
    term, and moved to consolidate the second and third petitions. On May 9,
    2008, following this court’s reversal of the 2006 judgment, the trial court
    granted the motion to consolidate.
    Over the course of eight hearings held during 2007, Hubbs requested
    substitution of counsel. A new attorney, James Gass, eventually was
    appointed to represent Hubbs in December 2007.
    In 2008, six hearings were held following this court’s reversal and
    remand on the second petition. The People moved to consolidate the second
    and third petitions. Defense counsel joined in a motion on Hubbs’s behalf
    2      This court granted Hubbs’s motion to take judicial notice of the records
    in his prior appeals: People v. Hubbs (Feb. 20, 2008, D048607) (Hubbs 2) and
    People v. Hubbs (Dec. 19, 2014, D063955) (Hubbs 3), nonpublished opinions.
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    regarding the use of underground regulations in SVP assessment protocols,
    and the case was continued for that purpose.
    In 2009, the trial court continued the case a number of times in an
    attempt to accommodate Hubbs’s request that he appear at the hearings
    telephonically. On October 27, 2009, the People indicated they were ready for
    the matter to proceed to trial; however, defense counsel informed the court
    Hubbs wished to delay it because “he ha[d] a lawsuit pending against the
    county, and he [did not] want to come back to county jail until his lawsuit”
    was over. Both parties also stated they had not yet secured their expert
    witnesses. On November 3, 2009, the court set trial for February 8, 2010.
    In January 2010, the court vacated the scheduled jury trial because
    Gass requested more time in order to secure an expert. Gass subsequently
    filed a motion for new evaluators in June 2010, pursuant to In re Ronje (2009)
    
    179 Cal.App.4th 509
    , claiming he was entitled to new evaluations conducted
    under a valid protocol.3 At a July 2010 hearing, the trial court granted the
    motion, finding Hubbs was entitled to new evaluations and a new probable
    cause hearing. The court found probable cause at a hearing on January 18,
    2011. In December 2011, Gass stated he was not ready for trial as his
    request for funds to hire an expert was denied.
    3      The court held in In re Ronje, supra, 179 Cal.App.4th at p. 513 that the
    assessment protocol used to evaluate the subjects of SVP commitment
    petitions was an invalid underground regulation. The appropriate remedy
    was to order new evaluations using a valid protocol and to conduct a new
    probable cause hearing based on the new evaluations. (Id. at p. 514.) The
    California Supreme Court later held “that relief arising from use of an invalid
    protocol in an SVP evaluation should depend on a showing that the error was
    material,” and disapproved of Ronje to the extent it “omitted the materiality
    requirement[.]” (Reilly v. Superior Court (2013) 
    57 Cal.4th 641
    , 655.)
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    At a March 2012 hearing, Gass stated Hubbs had undergone multiple
    surgeries for hip replacements and did not want to proceed to trial until his
    rehabilitation was completed. The court set trial for December 2012;
    however, at a November 2012 status hearing, Gass stated Hubbs was still
    dealing with medical issues and was on an intravenous antibiotic. Gass
    requested the trial be continued or conducted telephonically. The People
    indicated readiness for trial.
    In the subsequent hearings leading up to the March 2013 trial, the
    court continued the case for various reasons, including Gass’s engagement in
    a murder trial and Hubbs’s unwillingness to proceed to trial because of his
    medical issues. The court later denied Hubbs’s request to delay his trial
    another “six or eight months.”
    On March 14, 2013, the matter went to trial, after which the court
    found Hubbs was an SVP and ordered him committed to a state hospital for
    an indeterminate term. Hubbs appealed. On December 19, 2014, this court
    reversed the recommitment, finding cumulative error rendered the 2013 trial
    unfair. We remanded for a new trial. (Hubbs 3, supra, D063955.)
    In February 2015, we issued our remittitur.
    In April 2015, the San Bernardino County Public Defender’s Office took
    over Hubbs’s representation and Deputy Public Defender Charlene McKinley-
    Powell was assigned to the case. Between August 2015 and May 2016, Hubbs
    executed three waivers of his speedy trial right under People v. Litmon (2008)
    
    162 Cal.App.4th 383
     (Litmon). His waivers stated: “I understand that this
    request may affect my rights and remedies of due process under [Litmon].
    Specifically, I understand that I have a right to a speedy trial. However, by
    requesting postponement of my case, I understand that I waive my right to a
    speedy trial under Litmon. I authorize my attorney to waive time on my
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    behalf to prepare for trial and obtain witnesses and records.” On August 6,
    2015, Hubbs signed such a waiver agreeing to delay his hearing for six
    months. On January 14, 2016, he signed another such waiver delaying his
    hearing for three months. On May 11, 2016, Hubbs agreed to a third waiver
    for an “indefinite” amount of time.
    On December 9, 2016, the court held a status conference and set trial
    for July 2017. In April 2017, McKinley-Powell told the court Hubbs had
    agreed that “sometime in the fall” would be a “more realistic date” and the
    court scheduled trial for October 2017. Between September 2017 and
    February 2019, the court continued Hubbs’s trial date for various reasons,
    including McKinley-Powell’s involvement in another trial and the need for
    updated reports and evaluations on Hubbs.
    On March 19, 2019, Hubbs in a letter moved the court to dismiss the
    SVP petition under People v. Superior Court (Vasquez) (2018) 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
     (Vasquez).4 He alleged he had suffered delays in bringing his case to trial
    4      In Vasquez, a person was detained in state hospitals for over 17 years
    while awaiting a trial on an SVPA commitment petition. (Vasquez, supra, 27
    Cal.App.5th at p. 40.) After 16 years, the trial court granted the detainee’s
    motion to relieve the public defender’s office as counsel and appointed a bar
    panel attorney to represent him. (Id. at p. 41.) Eight months later, the
    detainee’s new counsel filed a motion to dismiss the SVPA petition for
    violation of the detainee’s due process right to a speedy trial. (Ibid.)
    The trial court granted the motion, and the Court of Appeal upheld the
    dismissal. (Vasquez, supra, 27 Cal.App.5th at p. 41.) The appellate court
    concluded that although a substantial portion of the delay resulted from the
    failure of individual appointed attorneys to move the case forward, “the
    extraordinary length of the delay resulted from ‘a systemic “breakdown in the
    public defender system,” ’ and must be attributed to the state.” (Ibid.) The
    detainee had never objected to the many continuances of the trial date but
    had told his attorney he wanted to go to trial. (Id. at p. 62.) Although the
    extreme length of the delay in bringing the SVPA petition to trial (17 years)
    was not dispositive, it was significant that dramatic staffing cuts in the
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    as well as a breakdown of the public defender’s system. He further stated he
    had spoken to McKinley-Powell about filing a Vasquez motion, but she had
    advised him that he lacked a basis because of his two prior trials. Hubbs
    claimed McKinley-Powell advised him that he if raised the Vasquez issue, she
    could not represent him because she would have a conflict of interest. As a
    result, the court might appoint a new attorney from the conflict panel, and
    this would not benefit him given his previous difficulties with an attorney
    from that panel. Hubbs alternatively requested that the court grant his
    Marsden motion and appoint a new attorney to file a Vasquez motion on his
    behalf.
    On April 18, 2019, the trial court held a hearing on what the court
    called a “Vasquez/Marsden motion,” to address Hubbs’s letter. A supervising
    deputy public defender appeared along with McKinley-Powell and argued
    Hubbs did not present a valid Vasquez claim. The court denied Hubbs’s
    motion, finding that a Vasquez motion was not appropriate because Hubbs
    had been brought to trial twice, he executed waivers under Litmon, supra,
    
    162 Cal.App.4th 383
    , and his case was continued due to health issues and
    writ proceedings.
    In February 2020, Hubbs waived his right to a jury trial.
    In June 2020, the trial court found that Hubbs was an SVP and ordered
    him committed to a state hospital for an indeterminate term. Hubbs appeals
    from that order.
    public defender’s office was a cause of a substantial amount of the delay. (Id.
    at pp. 69, 77.) In addition, “the trial court failed Vasquez” by not considering
    whether to remove the public defender’s office. (Id. at p. 77.)
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    DISCUSSION
    I. Speedy Trial/Due Process Claim
    Hubbs contends: “From March 2005 through [his] March 2020 trial, his
    case was delayed approximately 15 years. However, if this court considers
    only the delay involved with [his] specific complaints, the delay still extended
    for nearly 10 years.” He contends “the long delays caused by the prior two
    trials which resulted in judgments that needed to be reversed violated his
    due process rights . . . . Specifically, . . . the trial court . . . fail[ed] to take
    appropriate steps to move [his] case to trial in a timely fashion and by
    refusing to permit [him] to represent himself. The system by which San
    Bernardino County assigned attorneys to represent [him] before he was
    reassigned to the public defender’s office suffered from a systemic breakdown
    because it repeatedly assigned unqualified and even incompetent attorneys to
    represent [him].”
    Hubbs clarifies he does not allege the San Bernardino Public
    Defender’s Office directly violated his due process rights to a speedy trial,
    acknowledging “their delay in bringing his case to trial was the result of the
    earlier delays, [his] health problems, and the normal process in bringing an
    SVP case to trial.” He further contends his trial counsel provided ineffective
    assistance by failing to file a motion to dismiss the petition based upon those
    due process violations that had already occurred.
    A. Applicable Law
    “Because civil commitment involves a significant deprivation of liberty,
    a defendant in an SVP proceeding is entitled to due process protections.”
    (People v. Otto (2001) 
    26 Cal.4th 200
    , 209 (Otto).) “This includes the due
    process right to a timely trial.” (People v. Tran (2021) 
    62 Cal.App.5th 330
    ,
    347 (Tran); see also id. at p. 347, fn. 13 [“Although the Sixth Amendment
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    right to a speedy trial and the Fourteenth Amendment due process right to a
    timely trial are distinct, for the purpose of our analysis they are sufficiently
    analogous to be treated interchangeably”].)
    “ ‘Neither the California Supreme Court nor the United States
    Supreme Court has decided what test is to be applied in deciding a due
    process/timely trial claim in an SVP proceeding.’ [Citation.] California
    Courts of Appeal have consistently applied the tests articulated in Barker v.
    Wingo (1972) 
    407 U.S. 514
     (Barker) and Mathews v. Eldridge (1976) 
    424 U.S. 319
     (Mathews).” (Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at pp. 347-348.)
    The court in Vasquez applied the Barker/Mathews framework to
    consider claims of undue delay in the context of SVPA proceedings. (Vasquez,
    supra, 27 Cal.App.5th at p. 61 [“We conclude a 17-year delay before trial is by
    any measure an ‘extraordinary’ delay that triggers the Barker inquiry and
    weighs against the state”].) It held the trial court did not err in finding
    “ ‘[t]he dysfunctional manner in which the Public Defender’s Office handled
    Mr. Vasquez’s case’ ” constituted a “systemic or institutional breakdown” that
    could not be attributed to the appellant. (Vasquez, supra, at p. 73.)
    Similarly, the court in People v. DeCasas (2020) 
    54 Cal.App.5th 785
    , 806-813
    (DeCasas) applied the Barker test. (DeCasas, supra, 54 Cal.App.5th at p.
    806.) It held the trial court did not err in finding the delays in bringing
    DeCasas’s case to trial were due to “a systemic breakdown in the public
    defender’s office.” (Id. at p. 810; see also People v. Landau (2013) 
    214 Cal.App.4th 1
    , 31.)
    1. Barker Analysis
    In Barker, the United States Supreme Court established a balancing
    test to analyze criminal defendants’ claims of speedy trial rights violations
    under the Sixth Amendment. “The Barker test involves a weighing of four
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    factors: length of delay, the reason for the delay, the defendant’s assertion of
    his right, and prejudice to the defendant.” (U.S. v. Eight Thousand Eight
    Hundred & Fifty Dollars ($8,850) in U.S. Currency (1983) 
    461 U.S. 555
    , 564.)
    These factors are “related . . . and must be considered together with such
    other circumstances as may be relevant.” (Barker, 
    supra,
     
    407 U.S. at 533
    .)
    None of these four factors is a necessary or sufficient condition to the finding
    of a deprivation of the right of speedy trial. (Id. at p. 533.) “[T]hese factors
    have no talismanic qualities; courts must still engage in a difficult and
    sensitive balancing process.” (Ibid.) “The burden of demonstrating a speedy
    trial violation under Barker’s multifactor test lies with the defendant.”
    (People v. Williams (2013) 
    58 Cal.4th 197
    , 233 (Williams).)
    a. Length of Delay
    “The first Barker factor, the length of the delay, encompasses a ‘double
    enquiry.’ [Citation.] ‘Simply to trigger a speedy trial analysis, an accused
    must allege that the interval between accusation and trial has crossed the
    threshold dividing ordinary from “presumptively prejudicial” delay [citation]
    . . . . If the accused makes this showing, the court must then consider . . . the
    extent to which the delay stretches beyond the bare minimum needed to
    trigger judicial examination of the claim.’ ” (Williams, 
    supra,
     58 Cal.4th at p.
    234.)
    We agree with Hubbs that the applicable delay is the 10-year period
    from 2005, when the People filed the petition, until 2015, when we issued our
    remittitur. Hubbs was brought to trial in 2006, and he appealed the
    commitment from that trial. He was brought to trial again in 2013, and he
    appealed the commitment from that trial. That appeal became final in early
    2015. Beyond the ordinary time needed for trial and appeals, there was not
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    much delay in Hubbs’s proceedings. We therefore conclude the first Barker
    factor weighs against a finding of a due process violation.
    b. Reasons for Delay
    Hubbs concedes he “does not contend that any significant delays were
    caused by the prosecution.” He contends the trial court “was responsible for
    virtually all of the relevant delays.” He argues, “Prior to the first reversal,
    the trial court did a satisfactory job of bringing [his] case to trial in a timely
    fashion. However, by proceeding with the case even after [his] trial attorney
    had shown up for the trial completely unprepared, the trial court caused a
    very significant delay. If, instead of granting [his] Faretta motion [(Faretta v.
    California (1975) 
    422 U.S. 806
    )] and forcing [him] to an immediate trial, the
    trial court appointed a competent attorney to represent [him], this delay
    could have been avoided because the case would not have been reversed an
    appeal [sic] thereby delaying [his] case for several years.” Hubbs adds, “If the
    trial court had removed Gass when he refused to commit to working
    expeditiously on [his] case, it is likely that [Hubbs] would have been brought
    to trial sooner with a chance to actually win the trial—and, if he had not won
    the trial, there is a fair chance that the judgment would not have been
    reversed. By failing to take action, the trial court delayed [his] case for
    several more years.”
    Hubbs argues: “Most of the delays suffered by [him] must also be
    attributed to the government as a result of the systemic breakdown in the
    system San Bernardino County used to assign attorneys to SVP cases when
    the public defender’s office was not available. San Bernardino first assigned
    a grossly incompetent attorney who was in the process of being disbarred
    when [Hubbs’s] case went to trial. Next, San Bernardino erroneously
    assigned a second attorney over [Hubbs’s] objection since he wanted to
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    represent himself. Then San Bernardino County again ignored [his] desire
    for self[-]representation and assigned a third attorney with no previous SVP
    experience who did nothing for several years.”
    We attribute the majority of the delay to Hubbs, based on the following
    applicable case law: “Because ‘the attorney is the [defendant’s] agent when
    acting, or failing to act, in furtherance of the litigation,’ delay caused by the
    defendant’s counsel is also charged against the defendant. [Citation.] The
    same principle applies whether counsel is privately retained or publicly
    assigned.” (Vermont v. Brillon (2009) 
    556 U.S. 81
    , 90-91, fn. omitted.)
    However, “[t]he general rule attributing to the defendant delay caused by
    assigned counsel is not absolute. Delay resulting from a systemic ‘breakdown
    in the public defender system,’ [citation], could be charged to the State.” (Id.
    at p. 94.)
    In Williams, the California Supreme Court found that “most of the
    delay in this case, apart from the periods already attributed to defendant,
    resulted from defense counsel’s failure to make progress in preparing
    defendant’s case” (Williams, supra, 58 Cal.4th at p. 244), but concluded the
    delay must be charged to the defendant absent evidence in the record
    demonstrating a systemic breakdown in the public defender system (id. at p.
    247). It observed that “the record on appeal contains no facts that
    affirmatively support [a systemic breakdown in the system]. Because
    defendant did not file a motion to dismiss on speedy trial grounds in the trial
    court, the underlying cause of the delay in this case was never litigated, the
    various statements by defendant and his attorneys were never examined in
    an adversarial proceeding, and the trial court made no findings that might
    inform the issue before us.” (Id. at p. 248.)
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    Similarly, in Tran, decided after Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
     and
    DeCasas, supra, 
    54 Cal.App.5th 785
    , the court held that “[w]ithout a more
    developed factual record, we cannot make a determination whether the
    defense delays were justifiable, or ‘whether the lack of progress was
    attributable to each attorney’s own inability to properly manage or prioritize
    his or her caseload, or whether the performance of individual attorneys was
    indicative of unreasonable resource constraints, misallocated resources,
    inadequate monitoring or supervision, or other systemic problems.’
    [Citation.] Accordingly, we must attribute all delays caused by defense
    counsel to defendant.” (Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at p. 352.)
    The record here is also undeveloped, and we cannot conclusively
    ascertain whether the delays were caused by defense counsel’s inability to
    handle his case load or some other cause specific to the attorney. However,
    absent from the record is evidence affirmatively demonstrating a systemic
    breakdown in the public defender system. In light of the governing law, we
    attribute to Hubbs the vast majority of the delays.
    c. Hubbs’s Assertion of the Right to a Timely Trial
    A defendant’s “assertion of or failure to assert his right to a speedy
    trial” is one factor to be considered in determining whether he was deprived
    of his right to a speedy or timely trial. (Barker, supra, 407 U.S. at p. 528;
    Vasquez, supra, 27 Cal.App.5th at p. 61.) A defendant’s belated assertion of
    his right to a speedy SVP trial has less weight than a prompt assertion of
    that right. (Litmon, supra, 162 Cal.App.4th at p. 405.) “The defendant’s
    assertion of his speedy trial right . . . is entitled to strong evidentiary weight
    in determining whether the defendant is being deprived of the right.”
    (Barker, 
    supra,
     407 U.S. at pp. 531-532.) “ ‘The issue is not simply the
    number of times the accused acquiesced or objected; rather, the focus is on
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    the surrounding circumstances, such as the timeliness, persistence, and
    sincerity of the objections, the reasons for the acquiescence, whether the
    accused was represented by counsel, the accused’s pretrial conduct (as that
    conduct bears on the speedy trial right), and so forth. [Citation.] The totality
    of the accused’s responses to the delay is indicative of whether he or she
    actually wanted a speedy trial.’ ” (Williams, supra, 58 Cal.4th at p. 238.)
    Hubbs admits he “made no early assertion of his right to a speedy
    trial,” but contends we should not weigh this factor against him. However,
    almost every continuance was either requested by or agreed to by Hubbs’s
    counsel and, as discussed above, these requests must be attributed to Hubbs
    because there is no evidence in the record to suggest they were due to a
    systemic breakdown in the SVP unit. Moreover, Hubbs sought waivers under
    Litmon, supra, 
    162 Cal.App.4th 383
    . After 2016, he sought a time waiver for
    an indefinite period, and he at one point sought an eight-month delay, which
    the court denied. The burden is on Hubbs to demonstrate error. (People v.
    Thompson (2016) 
    1 Cal.5th 1043
    , 1097, fn. 11 [“On appeal, we assume a
    judgment is correct and the defendant bears the burden of demonstrating
    otherwise”].) The evidence in the record shows that Hubbs did not assert his
    right to a speedy trial, but rather repeatedly manifested his agreement with
    the continuances sought or stipulated to by his counsel. We accordingly
    weigh this factor against him.
    d. Prejudice to Hubbs
    Hubbs acknowledges that unlike the defendants in DeCasas, supra, 
    54 Cal.App.5th 785
     and Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
    , he has had three
    trials. But he points out two of the trials were flawed. He argues that
    although the Vasquez court found a purpose of a speedy trial is to minimize
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    anxiety and concern of the accused (Vasquez, at p. 63), his “anxiety and
    concern were not minimized during this long delay.”
    “Whether [a] defendant suffered prejudice as a result of the delay must
    be assessed in light of the interests the speedy trial right was designed to
    protect: ‘(i) to prevent oppressive pretrial incarceration; (ii) to minimize
    anxiety and concern of the accused; and (iii) to limit the possibility that the
    defense will be impaired.’ ” (Williams, 
    supra,
     58 Cal.4th at p. 235.) “Of these
    forms of prejudice, ‘the most serious is the last, because the inability of a
    defendant adequately to prepare his case skews the fairness of the entire
    system.’ ” (Doggett v. U.S. (1992) 
    505 U.S. 647
    , 654.)
    “[L]engthy post-deprivation pretrial delay in an SVP proceeding is
    oppressive. In this case, we cannot turn a blind eye to the years of pretrial
    confinement that have elapsed following expiration of the last ordered term of
    commitment.” (Litmon, supra, 162 Cal.App.4th at p. 406; see Barker, 
    supra,
    407 U.S. at pp. 532-533 [“ ‘The time spent in jail is simply dead time’ ”];
    accord, Williams, 
    supra,
     58 Cal.4th at p. 235 [“We have no difficulty
    concluding, even in light of the complexity of the case and the need for
    adequate preparation, that being jailed without a trial for seven years is
    ‘oppressive’ ”].) An appellant “need not show ‘a loss of witnesses, loss of
    evidence, or fading memories,’ ” to demonstrate prejudice. (Vasquez, supra,
    27 Cal.App.5th at p. 63.) “Rather, it is the loss of time spent in pretrial
    custody that constitutes prejudice.” (Ibid.)
    The People rely on United States v. McGhee (8th Cir. 2008) 
    532 F.3d 733
    , 740, in which the court stated that “although anxiety and concern are
    present in every case, this alone does not demonstrate prejudice.” They argue
    Hubbs “does not submit any evidence that his mental status changed while
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    he was awaiting trial, such that it would have been more advantageous to
    him to proceed at an earlier date.”
    We agree there is inherent prejudice from being confined for an
    extended period without a trial. But to the extent Hubbs suffered some
    prejudice from the delay, he has not shown it was the most serious type of
    prejudice relating to an inability to adequately prepare his case. Moreover,
    as we explain below, it does not outweigh the remaining factors.
    e. Balancing the Barker Factors
    The first factor (length of delay) weighs against Hubbs. The third
    factor (assertion of right to speedy trial) also weighs against him. For the
    second factor (reason for delay), we ascribe most of the responsibility for the
    delay to Hubbs, whose attorneys requested or agreed to almost all the
    continuances and did not object to the others. For the fourth factor
    (prejudice), we have observed there is inherent prejudice due to his lengthy
    confinement, but cannot say it was the egregious sort preventing him from
    maintaining a defense. Further, Hubbs concedes his case is distinguishable
    from Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
     because he had three trials, even as
    he points out that we reversed two of those trials for prejudicial errors.
    Balancing these four factors, we conclude Hubbs has not sufficiently
    demonstrated a violation of his due process rights under Barker, 
    supra,
     
    407 U.S. 514
    .
    2. The Mathews Test
    Mathews, 
    supra,
     
    424 U.S. 31
     “articulated a more general balancing test
    of three factors ‘for resolving what process is constitutionally due’ [citation]:
    (1) the private interest affected by the government action; (2) ‘the risk of an
    erroneous deprivation of such interest through the procedures used, and the
    probable value, if any, of additional or substitute procedural safeguards’; and
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    (3) the government’s interest. [Citation.] Like the Barker test, the Mathews
    test ‘involve[s] careful balancing of the competing interests . . . .’ ” (Tran,
    supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at p. 348.)
    a. Private Interest Affected
    “ ‘The right to be free from involuntary confinement is fundamental and
    deprivation of this right requires due process.’ ” (Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th
    at pp. 354-355.) The People acknowledge Hubbs’s “confinement constituted a
    significant deprivation of liberty, which required due process protection.”
    This factor weighs in Hubbs’s favor.
    b. Risk of Erroneous Deprivation
    As set forth above, the original petition to commit Hubbs as an SVP
    was filed in 1999. Following a trial, he was found to be an SVP beyond a
    reasonable doubt and committed to the custody of the Department of State
    Hospitals in 2003. This is not an unusual circumstance, and this case is
    distinguishable from other cases where the courts granted a dismissal
    motion. (See In re Butler, supra, 55 Cal.App.5th at pp. 625-626 [the
    defendant was detained for 13 years awaiting trial on original SVP petition];
    People v. DeCasas, supra, 54 Cal.App.5th at pp. 789-801 [no trial during 13-
    year period following filing of original SVP petition]; Vasquez, supra, 27
    Cal.App.5th at p. 40 [the defendant was detained for over 17 years awaiting
    trial on original SVP petition].) Subsequent medical evaluations reported
    that Hubbs continued to satisfy SVP criteria and a petition to extend his
    commitment was subsequently filed. (See Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at p.
    355 [“[T]he initial SVP petition had to be supported by evaluations by mental
    health experts concluding that defendant met the SVP commitment
    criteria”].) Thereafter, “throughout the life of the case, [Hubbs] was
    reevaluated numerous times to assess whether he still met the SVP criteria.”
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    (Ibid., fn. omitted.) The risk of erroneous deprivation “was mitigated by the
    procedural safeguards required by the SVPA.” (Ibid.)
    c. Government’s Interest
    “There is no question that ‘the state has a compelling protective
    interest in the confinement and treatment of persons who have already been
    convicted of violent sex offenses, and who, as the result of current mental
    disorders that make it difficult or impossible to control their violent sexual
    impulses, represent a substantial danger of committing similar new
    crimes . . . .’ ” (Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at p. 355.) This factor weighs
    against Hubbs.
    d. Balancing of Factors
    Substantial evidence demonstrated that “[a]ny risk of an erroneous
    deprivation of [Hubbs’s] liberty was reasonably mitigated by the procedural
    requirements of the SVPA” (Tran, supra, 62 Cal.App.5th at p. 355) and
    “tip[ped] the scales in favor of [a] finding that [Hubbs] was provided with all
    the process that he was due.” (Ibid.) Only the private interest affected
    weighed in Hubbs’s favor. Once again, we conclude that the court did not
    abuse its discretion when it denied Hubbs’s dismissal motion.
    II. Ineffective Assistance of Counsel Claim
    Hubbs contends he received ineffective assistance of counsel when
    McKinley-Powell declined to file a motion to dismiss the petition based on
    Vasquez. He argues she should have filed a motion to dismiss when the
    Vasquez opinion was issued in 2018 or when he later asked her to do so. He
    contends McKinley-Powell should have raised a due process claim directed at
    the delays caused by the systemic breakdown in the San Bernardino County
    SVP defense system that occurred before her office assumed the case.
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    A defendant can prevail on an ineffective assistance of counsel claim
    only if he demonstrates (1) his counsel’s performance was deficient, meaning
    it fell below an objective standard of reasonableness, and (2) it is reasonably
    probable that, but for counsel’s deficient performance, the result of the
    proceeding would have been different. (Strickland v. Washington (1984) 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 687-688, 694-695 (Strickland); People v. Benavides (2005) 
    35 Cal.4th 69
    , 92-93.) In considering a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
    it is not necessary to determine “ ‘counsel’s performance was deficient before
    examining the prejudice suffered by the defendant as a result of the alleged
    deficiencies . . . . If it is easier to dispose of an ineffectiveness claim on the
    ground of lack of sufficient prejudice, which we expect will often be so, that
    course should be followed.’ ” (In re Fields (1990) 
    51 Cal.3d 1063
    , 1079,
    quoting Strickland, at p. 697.) “ ‘Surmounting Strickland’s high bar is never
    an easy task.’ ” (Harrington v. Richter (2011) 
    562 U.S. 86
    , 105.) And it is
    “particularly difficult” for a defendant to prevail on direct appeal on a claim
    of ineffective assistance by trial counsel. (People v. Mai (2013) 
    57 Cal.4th 986
    , 1009.)
    The California Supreme Court has “repeatedly stressed ‘that “[if] the
    record on appeal sheds no light on why counsel acted or failed to act in the
    manner challenged[,] . . . unless counsel was asked for an explanation and
    failed to provide one, or unless there simply could be no satisfactory
    explanation,” the claim on appeal must be rejected.’ ” (People v. Mendoza
    Tello (1997) 
    15 Cal.4th 264
    , 266.) In such a case, a claim of ineffective
    assistance of counsel “is more appropriately decided in a habeas corpus
    proceeding.” (Id. at pp. 266-267.)
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    A. Analysis
    Having distinguished this case from Vasquez, we conclude McKinley-
    Powell was not ineffective for declining to file a dismissal motion. As she
    explained to Hubbs, and the trial court agreed, there was no showing of a
    systemic breakdown in the San Bernardino County Public Defender’s Office
    to justify such a motion. “A defense counsel is not required to make futile
    motions or to indulge in idle acts to appear competent.” (People v. Torrez
    (1995) 
    31 Cal.App.4th 1084
    , 1091-1092; People v. Beasley (2003) 
    105 Cal.App.4th 1078
    , 1092.) Hubbs got a trial on the 2005 petition, a direct
    appeal resulting in a reversal of the 2005 commitment, a trial on the
    consolidated 2005 and 2007 petitions, and a direct appeal from the
    consolidated case resulting in another reversal. (Hubbs 3, supra, D063955.)
    As this court noted in a prior opinion, this period did not reflect a series of
    delays, but rather, the time necessary for Hubbs’s petitions and related
    challenges to run their respective courses. (Hubbs 3, supra, D063955.)
    Moreover, Hubbs requested or stipulated to most of the continuances between
    2005 and 2015. Between 2015 and 2016, Hubbs signed three waivers,
    acknowledging that his due process right to a timely trial might be affected
    by waiving time. On this record, Hubbs’s counsel had a plausible reason for
    declining to file a motion to dismiss. We cannot conclude he received
    ineffective assistance of counsel on this claim.
    In sum, we have concluded the court did not err in declining to dismiss
    the case for a due process violation using either the Barker or Mathews test.
    Further, any error counsel made in failing to file a dismissal motion was
    harmless beyond a reasonable doubt under the standard set forth in
    Chapman v. California (1967) 
    386 U.S. 18
    , 24 (Chapman), as the court likely
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    would have properly denied it based on the stark differences between this
    case and Vasquez.
    III. Marsden Claim
    In a related claim, Hubbs contends the trial court erred in denying his
    April 18, 2019 Marsden motion because it failed to recognize a conflict of
    interest between him and the San Bernardino County Public Defender’s
    Office based on McKinley-Powell’s refusal to file a Vasquez motion.
    A. Background
    As stated, Hubbs wrote a March 2019 letter requesting the court
    dismiss the SVP petition under Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
     or
    alternatively, under Marsden, replace McKinley-Powell with an attorney who
    would file a dismissal motion.
    At the Marsden hearing, McKinley-Powell’s supervising attorney
    summarily opined that Hubbs had experienced “structural breakdowns” in
    his past legal representation; however, he concluded there was no basis for
    granting a dismissal motion: “[T]he issue in Vasquez is whether or not . . . a
    complete breakdown of the public defender’s office structurally has impaired
    Mr. Hubbs’s ability to get to trial. I think that Mr. Hubbs has suffered
    structural breakdowns. The court knows Mr. Hubbs went to trial twice with
    two different attorneys, twice was committed, and twice the appellate court
    overruled and determined and made the decision, which is quite unusual;
    that in both instances, Mr. Hubbs was denied effective assistance of counsel
    which, as the court knows, is that not only was the representation defective,
    the defective representation impacted the results in the two-prong Strickland
    test. So I’m empathetic to the situation Mr. Hubbs has experienced as a
    result of past representation.”
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    The supervising attorney continued: “But most importantly, and I
    think this is what Mr. Hubbs has got to grapple with now, is the reason why
    [McKinley-Powell], one, hasn’t pursued a doctor of our own and why we
    haven’t pursued getting updates for a trial is because Mr. Hubbs has
    informed [her] of his serious [medical condition] that needs surgery to correct.
    He’s no doubt in a great deal of discomfort, and there are other medical
    procedures that he’s wanting to take advantage of from Coalinga and to do
    that, we can’t be on the trial track. . . . Mr. Hubbs has requested that we not
    pursue trial because of that, and so therefore, the writ procedures, the health
    issues, and so on is what contributed to the delay.” Based on that difference
    in this case from Vasquez, the supervising attorney concluded “there’s no
    reason to say there’s a breakdown in the Public Defender’s office prohibiting
    the trial.”
    The trial court denied Hubbs’s Vasquez/Marsden motion, telling him:
    “It appears to me that a Vasquez motion wouldn’t arise given the fact that
    you’ve been tried before, there have been health issues, there’s been writs
    done, and there have been Litmon motions [sic] previously filed.”
    Hubbs subsequently filed a petition for writ of mandate in this court,
    requesting we order the trial court to grant his Marsden motion. The People
    filed an informal response to the petition. In June 2019, we summarily
    denied the petition.
    B. Applicable Law
    “ ‘A defendant is entitled to have appointed counsel discharged upon a
    showing that counsel is not providing adequate representation or that
    counsel and defendant have become embroiled in such an irreconcilable
    conflict that ineffective representation is likely to result.’ ” (People v. Panah
    (2005) 
    35 Cal.4th 395
    , 431.) It is the defendant’s obligation to make “ ‘a
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    sustained good faith effort to work out any disagreements with counsel.’ ”
    (People v. Clark (2011) 
    52 Cal.4th 856
    , 913.) “ ‘[T]he trial court need not
    conclude that an irreconcilable conflict exists if the defendant has not tried to
    work out any disagreements with counsel and has not given counsel a fair
    opportunity to demonstrate trustworthiness.’ ” (People v. Cole (2004) 
    33 Cal.4th 1158
    , 1192.)
    “ ‘Tactical disagreements between the defendant and his attorney do
    not by themselves constitute an “irreconcilable conflict.” ’ ” (People v. Jackson
    (2009) 
    45 Cal.4th 662
    , 688.) “[T]actical disagreements between a defendant
    and his attorney or a defendant’s frustration with counsel are not sufficient
    cause for substitution of counsel.” (People v. Streeter (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 205
    ,
    231.) Although the trial court must afford the defendant the opportunity to
    express specific reasons why he believes he is not being adequately
    represented, the court is not required to accept defendant’s assertions of
    inadequate representation. (People v. Vera (2004) 
    122 Cal.App.4th 970
    , 979-
    980.)
    We review the denial of a Marsden motion for abuse of discretion.
    (People v. Streeter 
    supra,
     54 Cal.4th at p. 230.) “Denial is not an abuse of
    discretion ‘unless the defendant has shown that a failure to replace counsel
    would substantially impair the defendant’s right to assistance of counsel.’ ”
    (People v. Taylor (2010) 
    48 Cal.4th 574
    , 599.)
    C. Analysis
    The court gave Hubbs and defense counsel ample opportunity to be
    heard on the Marsden motions. Hubbs stated that his only difficulty with
    McKinley-Powell was that although she had been on his case for four years,
    she faced a conflict of interest because she failed to bring his case to trial in a
    timely manner under Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
    . Defense counsel
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    confirmed that the reasons for the delay in going to trial related primarily to
    the ordinary delay in the appeals process and Hubbs’s requests for
    continuances so that he could get medical care. Nothing in the record
    suggests Hubbs was otherwise dissatisfied with counsel’s representation.
    The record here reflects Hubbs did not begin to complain about counsel,
    delays in going to trial, and demanding a trial until his 2019 letter, after
    Vasquez’s publication. We conclude the court did not abuse its discretion in
    denying the motion. Counsel made a tactical decision not to file a motion to
    dismiss, and that did not constitute an irreconcilable conflict. “A defendant
    does not have the right to present a defense of his own choosing, but merely
    the right to an adequate and competent defense.” (Ibid.) “When a defendant
    chooses to be represented by professional counsel, that counsel is ‘captain of
    the ship’ and can make all but a few fundamental decisions for the
    defendant.” (People v. Carpenter (1997) 
    15 Cal.4th 312
    , 376.)
    After the court concluded there was no basis for dismissal under
    Vasquez, Hubbs did not demonstrate that a failure to replace counsel would
    substantially impair his right to effective assistance. Even if the court had
    erred and was required to grant Hubbs’s request for a new attorney who
    would file a Vasquez motion, any error was harmless beyond a reasonable
    doubt under Chapman, supra, 
    386 U.S. 18
    , as a new attorney would not have
    obtained a different result for Hubbs under Vasquez, supra, 
    27 Cal.App.5th 36
    .
    IV. Evidentiary Claims
    Hubbs contends the court violated his due process right to a fair trial
    by admitting into evidence inadmissible hearsay contained in tens of
    thousands of pages of exhibits, without addressing or evaluating his
    objections. He elaborates: “The trial court’s ruling caused several distinct
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    problems. First, by failing to consider the merits of [Hubbs’s] objection, the
    trial court admitted a massive amount of inadmissible hearsay. Second, the
    trial court’s ruling, considered in light of the sheer length of the exhibits,
    deprived [him] of any ability to know what evidence was being used against
    him. Third, the sheer length of the exhibits has effectively deprived [him] of
    full appellate review because it was functionally impossible for [him] to file a
    brief identifying and analyzing each inadmissible piece of evidence, especially
    in just 32,000 words. Fourth, the admission of these exhibits effectively
    without limitation negated the prohibition on case-specific hearsay under
    Sanchez because the expert’s testimony, even when it included inadmissible
    hearsay, was testimony based upon documents that were admitted into
    evidence. . . . [¶] Given the trial court’s ruling, we do not know what
    evidence the trial court considered when deciding [his] case. The trial court
    took three months to reach its decision. This gave it time to review any, if
    not all, of the exhibits. Therefore, [he] must assume that the trial court could
    have considered any part of any exhibit.”
    Hubbs specifically challenges the trial court’s admission of Exhibits 1
    through 7, 9 through 12, 15 and 21, arguing that although partially
    admissible, the documents contained inadmissible hearsay that did not fall
    within any hearsay exception.
    A. Background
    1. The Challenged Exhibits
    Exhibit 1 is Hubbs’s certified record of arrest and prosecution. Exhibit
    2 is a San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department certified police report. Exhibit 3
    is a certified packet of Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation
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    documents prepared under Penal Code section 969b.5 Exhibit 4 contains
    Barstow Police Department reports for Hubbs’s offenses. Exhibit 5 is
    Hubbs’s probation report dated October 1991. Exhibit 6 is a certified copy of
    Hubbs’s Indiana criminal history. Exhibit 7 is a certified copy of Hubbs’s
    Indianapolis prior case No. CR-78-181b, pertaining to charges of child
    molestation of victim G.D. Exhibit 9 is a certified copy of Indianapolis prior
    case No. CR80-454C, pertaining to charges of child molestation of victim F.B.
    Exhibit 10 is a certified copy of Indianapolis prior case No. CR80-058B,
    pertaining to charges of child molestation against victim F.B. Exhibit 11 is a
    certified copy of Indianapolis prior case No. C80-429C, pertaining to Hubbs’s
    failure to appear on the child molestation charges. Exhibit 12 includes
    interdisciplinary notes (IDN’s) from various dates. Exhibit 15 contains
    Hubbs’s medical records, including IDN’s from various dates. Exhibit 21
    includes IDN’s from June 5, 2008.
    2. Trial Testimony
    At the 2020 trial, the prosecutor’s experts were clinical psychologists
    Robert Owen and Steven Jenkins, who testified Hubbs satisfied the criteria
    of an SVP. Dr. Owen evaluated Hubbs nine times between 2001 and 2019,
    and Dr. Jenkins evaluated him in 2018 and 2019. The doctors reviewed
    Hubbs’s criminal history, medical records and state hospital records.
    Both doctors considered Hubbs’s criminal history from Indiana. In
    1978, Hubbs was charged with molesting a nine-year-old boy (G.D.); however,
    5     Penal Code section 969b provides that to prove prior felony convictions
    or service of prison terms, “the records or copies of records of any state
    penitentiary, reformatory, county jail, city jail, or federal penitentiary in
    which such person has been imprisoned, when such records or copies thereof
    have been certified by the official custodian of such records, may be
    introduced as such evidence.”
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    the charges were not sustained. In 1980, Hubbs was charged with sodomy
    and oral copulation of an 11-year-old boy (F.B.) but Hubbs pleaded guilty to
    misdemeanor battery.6
    Both doctors reviewed Hubbs’s state hospital records and testified he
    was caught concealing electronic devices, such as thumb drives, on which
    information could be stored. The records indicated that Hubbs was found
    watching movies depicting partially naked children and tortured children,
    and he had received numerous photographs depicting partially naked
    children.
    Based on their interviews with Hubbs, evaluations, and assessment of
    his criminal background and risk scores, Drs. Owen and Jenkins opined
    Hubbs’s pedophilia affected his volitional control and predisposed him to
    committing sexual offenses, and he would likely reoffend in a sexually violent
    predatory manner if released. They concluded he met the criteria for
    commitment as an SVP.
    6     Exhibit 8, the transcript of G.D.’s deposition, was not admitted into
    evidence. Dr. Owen briefly referenced the transcript when testifying about
    Hubbs’s criminal history from Indiana. Dr. Jenkins did not reference the
    transcript, but instead referenced the court record showing that Hubbs was
    charged with but not convicted of an offense involving G.D. Dr. Jenkins
    noted that he asked Hubbs about the allegations involving G.D. in his 2018
    interview.
    With no citation to legal authority, Hubbs argues: “Exhibit 8 was
    neither admitted nor admissible. Yet, it was used along with the other
    Indiana documents to support the claim that [he] had sexually assaulted
    [G.D.] This was entirely improper. An exhibit that was not introduced into
    evidence cannot be the basis for case-specific hearsay testimony; nor could it
    be properly considered by the trier of fact.” As Hubbs provides no evidentiary
    support for his claim the trial judge considered the deposition transcript in its
    ruling, we regard this argument as forfeited. (See Cal. Rules of Court, rule
    8.204(a)(1)(B) [briefs must “support each point by argument and, if possible,
    by citation of authority”].)
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    Hubbs did not call any trial witnesses. In opening arguments, Hubbs’s
    counsel clarified she was not contesting the first prong of the SVP statute
    dealing with Hubbs’s criminal convictions: “Now, the District Attorney is
    going to go into detail about Mr. Hubbs’s offenses. Does he have convictions
    for sex offenses? Yes. We’re not contesting the first criterion. That’s not why
    we’re here. What we are contesting is the third criterion, ‘whether or not Mr.
    Hubbs poses a serious and well-founded risk to reoffend in a sexually violent
    predator manner.’ ”
    3. Evidentiary Rulings
    McKinley-Powell did not object to the admission of exhibits 1 through
    7, stating they were certified records admissible under state law. She did not
    object to exhibit 21 because it was a single IDN that was referred to and
    identified at trial.
    With defense counsel’s agreement, the court elected to treat all
    evidentiary objections raised in the in limine proceedings as standing
    objections: “I know that there will probably be some objections based on
    motions in limine. You’re certainly free to object, of course, but . . . if you
    want, I can consider those objections as continuing objections, particularly as
    to the Sanchez issues, that they’re continuing objections, and that further
    objections would be futile.”
    McKinley-Powell objected to exhibits 9, 10 and 11, arguing they were
    inadmissible because they pertained to non-qualifying offenses. The
    prosecutor argued that they were certified court records of Hubbs’s Indiana
    convictions and relevant to events and victims about which Drs. Owen and
    Jenkins had testified. After considering both parties’ arguments, the trial
    court admitted exhibits 9, 10 and 11.
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    McKinley-Powell also objected to exhibits 12 and 15, both of which
    contained IDN’s. She argued that, if admitted in their entirety, exhibits 12
    and 15 could contain multiple levels of inadmissible hearsay, and therefore
    she requested the trial court limit the exhibits to only the IDN’s used during
    trial. The prosecutor argued that these exhibits were certified medical
    records obtained under subpoena, and the experts had testified about the
    content of the IDN’s. The trial court ruled that exhibits 12 and 15 would be
    received into evidence “to the extent that they were testified about, and I did
    make notes of what the testimony is.”
    4. Forfeiture as to Exhibits 1 through 7 and 21
    Evidence Code section 353 provides: “A verdict or finding shall not be
    set aside, nor shall the judgment or decision based thereon be reversed, by
    reason of the erroneous admission of evidence unless: [¶] (a) There appears
    of record an objection to or a motion to exclude or to strike the evidence that
    was timely made and so stated as to make clear the specific ground of the
    objection or motion . . . .” Thus, a “ ‘ “defendant’s failure to make a timely and
    specific objection” on the ground asserted on appeal makes that ground not
    cognizable.’ ” (People v. Partida (2005) 
    37 Cal.4th 428
    , 433.) “ ‘The reason for
    the requirement is manifest: a specifically grounded objection to a defined
    body of evidence serves to prevent error. It allows the trial judge to consider
    excluding the evidence or limiting its admission to avoid possible prejudice.
    It also allows the proponent of the evidence to lay additional foundation,
    modify the offer of proof, or take other steps designed to minimize the
    prospect of reversal.’ ” (Id. at p. 434.)
    Additionally, “ ‘where evidence is in part admissible, and in part
    inadmissible, “the objectionable portion cannot be reached by a general
    objection to the entire [evidence], but the inadmissible portion must be
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    specified.” ’ ” (People v. Burroughs (2016) 
    6 Cal.App.5th 378
    , 410-411
    (Burroughs).)
    As McKinley-Powell expressly stated she did not object to exhibits 1
    through 7 or exhibit 21 on any ground, any evidentiary challenge to these
    exhibits is forfeited. Hubbs argues that his counsel’s decision not to object
    amounted to ineffective assistance of counsel. We point out that McKinley-
    Powell was not asked about her tactical reasons for not objecting to exhibits 1
    through 7 and 21. However, there were hearsay exceptions applicable to the
    certified court records from California and Indiana, and therefore, no basis
    for an objection. (Evid. Code, § 1280.) Evidence Code section 452.5,
    subdivision (b)(1) states, in part: “An official record of conviction certified in
    accordance with subdivision (a) of [Evid. Code, s]ection 1530 . . . is admissible
    under [Evid. Code, s]ection 1280 to prove the commission, attempted
    commission, or solicitation of a criminal offense, prior conviction, service of a
    prison term, or other act, condition, or event recorded by the record.”
    Evidence Code section 452.5 “creates a hearsay exception allowing admission
    of qualifying court records to prove not only the fact of conviction, but also
    that the offense reflected in the record occurred,” and the language of the
    provision “is clear and unambiguous.” (People v. Duran (2002) 
    97 Cal.App.4th 1448
    , 1460-1461 (Duran).) Exhibits 1 through 7 and 21 were
    admissible under Evidence Code section 452.5, subdivision (b): “[C]ertified
    records of conviction fall within the definition of official records contained in
    Evidence Code section 1280 (the official records exception to the hearsay
    rule), and are per se admissible as such.” (Duran, at p. 1461.)
    5. Exhibits 9 through 11 (Indiana Records)
    Hubbs contends that because no Indiana offense was a qualifying
    offense under the SVPA, exhibits 9 through 11 were not admissible under
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    section 6600, subdivision (a)(3). He adds: “As a result, the only information
    from the Indiana documents that was admissible is the fact that [he] was
    convicted of a misdemeanor battery in Indiana. That information could be
    used to prove the existence of the conviction and that [he] committed a
    battery on F.B. However, battery is not a sex offense. Yet, the government’s
    witnesses and [the prosecutor] used these documents to claim that [he]
    committed sex offenses on both [F.B. and G.D.]. The experts testified that
    they were aware of the accusations against [Hubbs] from Indiana and relied
    upon those accusations.”
    Hubbs further speculates: “On this record, it appears likely that the
    only reason the trial court admitted into evidence these exhibits in their
    entirety was because of its mistaken belief that section 6600, subdivision
    (a)(3), extends to nonqualifying offenses.” Hubbs also argues his trial counsel
    provided ineffective assistance by failing to object to the Indiana records on
    Evidence Code section 352 grounds.
    “No evidence is admissible except relevant evidence.” (Evid. Code,
    § 350.) “ ‘Relevant evidence’ means evidence, . . . having any tendency in
    reason to prove or disprove any disputed fact that is of consequence to the
    determination of the action.” (Evid. Code, § 210.) “The court in its discretion
    may exclude evidence if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the
    probability that its admission will (a) necessitate undue consumption of time
    or (b) create substantial danger of undue prejudice, of confusing the issues, or
    of misleading the jury.” (Evid. Code, § 352.)
    “ ‘Hearsay evidence’ is evidence of a statement that was made other
    than by a witness while testifying at the hearing and that is offered to prove
    the truth of the matter stated.” (Evid. Code, § 1200, subd. (a).) “Except as
    provided by law, hearsay evidence is inadmissible.” (Evid. Code, § 1200,
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    subd. (b).) “Documents like reports, criminal records, hospital records, and
    memoranda—prepared outside the courtroom and offered for the truth of the
    information they contain—are usually themselves hearsay and may contain
    multiple levels of hearsay, each of which is inadmissible unless covered by an
    exception.” (People v. Yates (2018) 
    25 Cal.App.5th 474
    , 482 (Yates), citing
    Sanchez, 
    supra,
     63 Cal.4th at p. 675.) A trial court’s decision to admit or
    exclude evidence, along with its determination of issues concerning the
    hearsay rule, is reviewed for abuse of discretion and will not be disturbed on
    appeal unless the trial court exercised its discretion in an arbitrary,
    capricious, or patently absurd manner that resulted in a miscarriage of
    justice. (People v. Wall (2017) 
    3 Cal.5th 1048
    , 1069; People v. Clark (2016) 
    63 Cal.4th 522
    , 590.)
    The certified records of charges in exhibits 9 through 11 were
    admissible as official court documents under Evidence Code section 1280,
    subdivision (a), which “recognizes an exception to the hearsay rule for
    writings ‘made by and within the scope of duty of a public employee.’ Most
    such documents are like business records in that they are prepared to provide
    a chronicle of some act or event relating to the public employee’s duty.”
    (People v. Taulton (2005) 
    129 Cal.App.4th 1218
    , 1225.)
    As to Hubbs’s ineffective assistance of counsel claim, we point out that
    contrary to Hubbs’s argument on appeal, trial counsel did object to these
    records under Evidence Code section 352. Defense counsel made a blanket
    Evidence Code section 352 objection to all records: “[W]ith regard to the
    hospital records, as with all of the records I’m challenging, are that . . .
    they’re more prejudicial than probative. There are just tons of completely
    irrelevant information in these records.” This objection provides a reasonable
    explanation for counsel’s decision not to further object to this testimony. As
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    she already objected to the evidence, any further objection would be futile in
    light of the court’s standing order regarding the in limine objections.
    Further, because the trier of fact was the judge who could evaluate the
    evidence under the proper evidentiary law, there was even less reason for an
    additional objection. (People v. Garcia (2020) 
    46 Cal.App.5th 123
    , 171; People
    v. Ochoa (2017) 
    7 Cal.App.5th 575
    , 589, fn. 10; People v. Rauen (2011) 
    201 Cal.App.4th 421
    , 425; People v. Wesson (2006) 
    138 Cal.App.4th 959
    , 968.) “It
    is well settled that counsel is not ineffective in failing to make an objection
    when the objection would have likely been overruled by the trial court.”
    (People v. Mendoza (2000) 
    78 Cal.App.4th 918
    , 924.)
    6. Exhibits 12 and 15 (State Hospital Records)
    Hubbs contends that not all the documents contained in exhibits 12
    and 15 were IDN’s, and points to some portions of those documents that
    contained inadmissible hearsay. He argues, “By admitting this massive
    amount of hearsay, without examining the evidence in advance and actually
    ruling upon [his] objection, the trial court violated [his] due process rights.”
    Citing to no aspect of the court’s ruling, he contends, “The trial court must
    have relied on some of the inadmissible evidence in making its decision, but it
    is impossible to know exactly upon which documents it relied. . . . [T]he trial
    court relied on [the People’s] description of the exhibits. [That] cannot
    substitute for or eliminate the judge’s obligation to exercise his discretion and
    rule upon the admissibility of the exhibits from a position of knowledge, not
    ignorance. By proceeding in this fashion, the trial court abused its
    discretion.”
    The hospital records were admissible under the public records
    exception and the business records exception under Evidence Code sections
    1271 and 1280. They were made by public employees having an official duty
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    to accurately record statements during the normal course of business,
    thereby providing an exception to the hearsay rule. (People v. George (1994)
    
    30 Cal.App.4th 262
    , 273-274.)
    V. Claim of Sanchez Error
    Hubbs argues the court committed Sanchez error: “Although the trial
    court recognized the applicability of Sanchez to this case it ruled that some
    case-specific hearsay would be admitted. This error was highly prejudicial,
    not just because it admitted a significant amount of inadmissible evidence,
    but also because, as a result this ruling [sic], [he] waived his right to a jury
    trial.”
    A. Background
    Hubbs moved in limine to exclude certain exhibits because they
    contained hearsay in violation of Sanchez, supra, 
    63 Cal.4th 665
    . Defense
    counsel specifically objected to exhibit 11, claiming it included documents
    from a case in which there was no arrest and no conviction; therefore it would
    become more prejudicial than probative under Evidence Code section 352:
    “Its probative value is quite minimal under the circumstances. It also would
    invite the trier of fact to speculate what else could be the case? What else
    was done? How many other victims?”
    As to exhibit 9, defense counsel argued: “[W]e’re dealing with
    several counts which were dismissed in [Hubbs’s] 1991 case.” “With regard to
    hospital records, . . . they do not qualify under the business records or official
    records exceptions, that—as is very thoroughly known, that Coalinga State
    Hospital is a forensic institution, and in fact the state evaluators are
    considered forensic evaluators, and something that’s forensic by definition is
    investigatory, that it is researching and documenting in order to . . . preserve
    details for purposes of litigation.”
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    Regarding the IDN’s that documented searches of Hubbs’s belongings
    for suspected child pornography and other contraband, defense counsel
    argued: “[M]ost of those searches were conducted by the hospital police . . .
    and there’s nothing in there that can remotely be called treatment. . . . And
    even in the cases where a psychiatric technician or other staff perform the
    search, it still would be inadmissible hearsay because they’re in effect acting
    as agents of the police when they go in there looking for evidence of, you
    know, criminal activity, illegal items, and not just contraband items, but
    specifically ones that are illegal.”
    The court in its ruling demonstrated its understanding of Sanchez,
    supra, 
    63 Cal.4th 665
     and the scope of that case’s exclusion of case-specific
    hearsay. It concluded the challenged exhibits were admissible under the
    following hearsay exceptions: “Evidence Code sections 1270 and 1271, official
    or public employee records under Evidence Code sections 1280 . . . and 1561, I
    believe, admission of a party opponent under Evidence Code section 1220,
    some spontaneous statements, Evidence Code section1240, state of mind,
    Evidence Code section 1250, and physical state, Evidence Code section 1251,
    and in particular in SVP cases under Welfare and Institutions Code section
    6600[, subdivision] (a)(3), the existence of any prior conviction may be shown
    with documentary evidence. The details underlying the commission of an
    offense that led to a prior conviction, including a predatory relationship with
    the victim may be shown by documentary evidence[.]”
    B. Applicable Law
    “Under the SVPA, an offender who is determined to be an SVP is
    subject to involuntary civil commitment for an indeterminate term
    ‘ “immediately upon release from prison.” ’ ” (People v. Putney (2016) 
    1 Cal.App.5th 1058
    , 1065.) To establish an offender is an SVP, the prosecution
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    must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, the offender (1) has been convicted of
    a sexually violent offense against one or more victims, and (2) has a
    diagnosed mental disorder that makes him or her a danger to the health and
    safety of others in that it is likely that he or she will engage in sexually
    violent criminal behavior. (§ 6600, subd. (a)(1).) “The SVPA is designed ‘ “to
    provide ‘treatment’ to mentally disordered individuals who cannot control
    sexually violent criminal behavior” ’ and to keep them confined until they no
    longer pose a threat to the public.” (Putney, at p. 1065.)
    Through section 6600, the Legislature has expanded the scope of
    admissible hearsay in SVP proceedings. Subdivision (a)(3) of that section
    provides: “Conviction of one or more of the crimes enumerated in this section
    shall constitute evidence that may support a court or jury determination that
    a person is a[n] [SVP], but shall not be the sole basis for the determination.
    The existence of any prior convictions may be shown with documentary
    evidence. The details underlying the commission of an offense that led to a
    prior conviction, including a predatory relationship with the victim, may be
    shown by documentary evidence, including, but not limited to, preliminary
    hearing transcripts, trial transcripts, probation and sentencing reports, and
    evaluations by the State Department of State Hospitals.”
    Section 6600, subdivision (a)(3) thus creates a broad hearsay exception
    for documentary evidence to prove the existence and details underlying the
    commission of the offenses leading to prior convictions and to the defendant’s
    predatory relationship with the victim. (Otto, supra, 26 Cal.4th at pp. 206-
    207 [section 6600, subd. (a)(3) “authorizes the use of hearsay in presentence
    reports to show the details underlying the commission of a predicate
    offense”].) “By permitting the use of presentence reports at the SVP
    proceeding to show the details of the crime,” the California Supreme Court
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    has explained, “the Legislature necessarily endorsed the use of multiple-
    level-hearsay statements that do not otherwise fall within a hearsay
    exception.” (Otto, at p. 208.) However, portions of otherwise admissible
    reports containing information that does not pertain to the defendant’s
    qualifying conviction are not made admissible by section 6600, subdivision
    (a)(3). (Burroughs, supra, 6 Cal.App.5th at pp. 410-411.)
    “A witness testifying in the form of an opinion may state on direct
    examination the reasons for his opinion and the matter (including, in the case
    of an expert, his special knowledge, skill, experience, training, and education)
    upon which it is based, unless he is precluded by law from using such reasons
    or matter as a basis for his opinion.” (Evid. Code, § 802.) Under Evidence
    Code section 801, subdivision (b), an expert witness may offer an opinion
    based on any matter, whether or not admissible, that is of a type upon which
    experts in the field may reasonably rely.
    In Sanchez, the California Supreme Court explained: “Any expert may
    still rely on hearsay in forming an opinion, and may tell the jury in general
    terms that he did so. Because the jury must independently evaluate the
    probative value of an expert’s testimony, Evidence Code section 802 properly
    allows an expert to relate generally the kind and source of the ‘matter’ upon
    which his opinion rests.” (Sanchez, supra, 63 Cal.4th at pp. 685-686.)
    What an expert “cannot do is relate as true case-specific facts asserted
    in hearsay statements, unless they are independently proven by competent
    evidence or are covered by a hearsay exception.” (Sanchez, 
    supra,
     63 Cal.4th
    at p. 686.) “Case-specific facts are those relating to the particular events and
    participants alleged to have been involved in the case being tried.” (Id. at p.
    676.) “When any expert relates to the jury case-specific out-of-court
    statements, and treats the content of those statements as true and accurate
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    to support the expert’s opinion, the statements are hearsay.” (Id. at p. 686.)
    The Sanchez rule regarding hearsay applies in SVP trials. (See, e.g., People
    v. Roa (2017) 
    11 Cal.App.5th 428
    , 452; Yates, supra, 25Cal.App.5th at p. 483.)
    C. Analysis
    1. Exhibits 9 Through 11
    Hubbs’s contentions regarding the admissibility of the California and
    Indiana court records are unavailing as they are certified copies of court
    records and thus properly admitted under the hearsay exception set forth in
    Evidence Code section 452.5, subdivision (b)(1). (People Taulton, supra, 129
    Cal.App.4th at p. 1225; Duran, supra, 97 Cal.App.4th at p. 1461.)
    2. Exhibits 12 and 15
    As exhibits 12 and 15 consist of Hubbs’s state hospital records, the
    IDN’s therein are admissible under Evidence Code sections 1271 and 1280,
    the business and public records exceptions to the hearsay rule. (People v.
    Nelson (2012) 
    209 Cal.App.4th 698
    , 710; People v. Dean (2009) 
    174 Cal.App.4th 186
    , 197; Bhatt v. State Dept. of Health Services (2005) 
    133 Cal.App.4th 923
    , 929-930.)
    Hubbs contends: “Before admitting the exhibits, the trial court should
    have confirmed that [the prosecutor] had redacted the documents
    appropriately so they did not contain inadmissible material and then
    reviewed the redacted documents in light of McKinley-Powell’s objections.”
    However, Hubbs does not cite to the record where he requested that the court
    undertake that course of action, and the court’s response to the request. To
    the contrary, as stated, his counsel requested the court limit its consideration
    of the records to the extent they were brought up in the experts’ testimony.
    Hubbs contends four pages in exhibit 12 are not IDN’s, and exhibit 15
    contains “massive amounts of documents” that are not IDN’s. He argues that
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    aside from the IDN’s, the records in exhibits 12 and 15 contained
    inadmissible hearsay. We point out the court granted McKinley-Powell’s
    request to limit exhibits 12 and 15 to the relevant IDN’s about which the
    experts testified. The court specified it had made notes regarding Drs. Owen
    and Jenkins’s testimony about the state hospital records. Hubbs fails to
    show that, based on the court’s narrow ruling, it relied on any inadmissible
    evidence.
    To the extent the court erred, it was an error of state law only, and
    Hubbs is required to establish a reasonable probability of a more favorable
    result absent the error under People v. Watson (1956) 
    46 Cal.2d 818
    , 836
    (Watson). (See Yates, supra, 25 Cal.App.5th at p. 487 [applying Watson
    standard to review claim of error in admitting expert’s inadmissible hearsay
    testimony].) He has not done so.
    Drs. Owen and Jenkins interviewed Hubbs and therefore did not base
    their opinions solely on documentary evidence. Rather, they were able to
    personally assess whether Hubbs met the SVP criteria and they relied
    extensively on those interviews in forming their opinions.
    Furthermore, as this was a bench trial, there is little likelihood Hubbs
    was prejudiced by any inadmissible hearsay. (See People v. Miranda (2000)
    
    23 Cal.4th 340
    , 351 [“ ‘A judge, unlike a jury, is presumed to be able to avoid
    the risks of prejudice’ posed by testimony of limited or questionable value”];
    People v. Walkkein (1993) 
    14 Cal.App.4th 1401
    , 1408 [“The California courts
    also presume that a professional jurist is capable of weighing admissible
    evidence without being prejudiced by extraneous matters”].) Hubbs rejects
    this claim: “The trial court did not understand the relevant rules of evidence.
    Therefore, there is no reason to assume that it properly excluded
    inadmissible evidence in making its decision. The trial court thought that
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    Burroughs[, supra, 
    6 Cal.App.5th 378
    ] allowed the admission of multilevel
    hearsay to establish the existence of all criminal offenses, including offenses
    that did not result in convictions. It was not possible for the judge to recover
    from this error. Undoubtedly, the trial court considered, for their truth, all of
    the allegations against appellant, no matter how unproven they might be.
    The problem was compounded by the trial court’s mysterious belief that it
    had no obligation to review exhibits before admitting them into evidence.”
    Hubbs adds that “in combination the two rulings meant that anything
    the witnesses said and any evidence that related in any way to what the
    witnesses said would be considered for its truth. Since the experts stated
    that they had reviewed [his] state hospital file and had relied on it in forming
    their opinions, that meant that the trial court, given its ruling, could have
    considered anything in the exhibits. Certainly, there is no way for [him and
    his] counsel, or this court to figure out which records the trial court
    considered.”
    We agree with Hubbs that the record does not permit us to identify
    which records or portions of the record the trial court considered. However,
    as we have stated, it is Hubbs’s burden to show prejudicial error. Absent that
    showing, we must presume that official duties have been regularly
    performed. (Evid. Code, § 664.) This presumption applies to the actions of
    trial judges in admitting evidence. (See Duran, supra, 97 Cal.App.4th at pp.
    1461-1462, fn. 5.) In light of the presumption of official duty, we conclude
    that any evidentiary error the court made in admitting hearsay evidence was
    harmless beyond a reasonable doubt under the standard set forth in both
    Watson, supra, 
    46 Cal.2d 818
    , 836 and Chapman, 
    supra,
     
    386 U.S. 18
    .
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    VI. Equal Protection Claim
    Hubbs contends that in light of the fact the Legislature by statute has
    extended confrontation clause rights to NGI’s in Penal Code section 1026.5,
    subdivision (b)(7),7 SVPs should have a similar right based upon equal
    protection principles. He relies on Hudec v. Superior Court (2015) 
    60 Cal.4th 815
    , 829 [recognizing a statutory right against compelled testimony in NGI
    commitment extension trials], People v. Curlee (2015) 
    237 Cal.App.4th 709
    ,
    712 [addressing an SVP’s equal protection claim that he could not be
    compelled to testify in his commitment trial] and People v. Dunley (2016) 
    247 Cal.App.4th 1438
    , 1443 [addressing an MDO’s statutory right not to be
    compelled to testify in commitment proceedings].)
    A. Contentions
    Hubbs “acknowledges that the evidence admitted to establish the
    existence and circumstances of the qualifying offense under . . . section 6600,
    subdivision (a)(3), arguably would be inadmissible under Crawford[, supra,
    
    541 U.S. 36
    ].” He further recognizes that the California Supreme Court in
    Otto, 
    supra,
     26 Cal.4th at page 208 explained the rationale for that statute:
    “the Legislature apparently intended to relieve victims of the burden and
    trauma of testifying about the details of the crimes underlying the prior
    convictions. Moreover, since the SVP proceeding may occur years after the
    predicate offense or offenses, the Legislature may have also been responding
    to a concern that victims and other precipitant witnesses would no longer be
    available.” However, Hubbs reasons that the above argument “does not apply
    7      Penal Code section 1026.5, subdivision (b)(7) provides that in the case
    of a person committed to a state hospital, “The person shall be entitled to the
    rights guaranteed under the federal and State Constitutions for criminal
    proceedings. All proceedings shall be in accordance with applicable
    constitutional guarantees.”
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    to the application of Crawford to other evidence. The Legislature has
    expressed no preference that other evidence would be more admissible in an
    SVP case than in an NGI case. More importantly, the other evidence of
    misconduct by an alleged SVP is frequently evidence that has never resulted
    in a conviction. . . . Thus the Legislature did not find a compelling interest in
    being able to present such evidence.”
    Hubbs contends Crawford protections should apply in SVP cases:
    “When an evaluator writes an evaluation of an alleged SVP, that report
    serves very much the same purpose as a police report in a criminal case. It
    was not prepared for use in a criminal case, but it is still testimonial in the
    SVP context.” He recognizes that the repercussions of his proposal are
    extreme: “This expansion of the Crawford rule hearing beyond what the
    criminal context is [is] necessary given the existence of a Legislatively
    created expansion of criminal constitutional rights into the civil commitment
    context. Under this analysis, appellant’s confrontation/Crawford claim would
    require the exclusion of any statements elicited or made in the context of any
    investigation of [his] criminal behavior or SVP status. Most clearly, this
    analysis would exclude all evaluations prepared as part of the SVP
    evaluation and commitment process unless the evaluator testified. [¶]
    Similarly, statements elicited during the course of an investigation conducted
    by hospital police must be excluded because those statements would have
    been elicited in the course of both a criminal investigation and SVP litigation.
    In [this] case, Crawford would also implicate most of the information coming
    from Indiana about appellant’s purported criminal activities there. [¶] The
    most complicated question concerns appellant’s state hospital file. Because
    [his] ongoing status as an SVP was pending throughout his time at the state
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    hospital, virtually everything written about him there was testimonial in
    light of the upcoming litigation process.”
    B. Background
    Hubbs argued in an in limine motion that “equal protection mandates
    that persons facing civil commitment are entitled to the statutory
    equivalence of rights guaranteed by the federal and state Constitutions for
    criminal proceedings including the equivalent Sixth Amendment right to
    confront and cross-examine witnesses and the requirements of Crawford[,
    supra, 
    541 U.S. 36
    ].” The court denied the motion, finding the expert’s
    testimony was admissible and “Crawford does not apply” to SVP proceedings.
    It did not find “an extension of the Sixth Amendment Crawford rights by way
    of equal protection.”
    C. Analysis
    During the pendency of this appeal, the California Supreme Court
    decided Conservatorship of Eric B. (2022) 
    12 Cal.5th 1085
     (Eric B.).8 It
    addressed whether, under equal protection principles, the right to not give
    compelled testimony at trial that the Legislature granted by statute to those
    committed persons found guilty of crimes by reason of insanity should extend
    to those facing conservatorship due to an inability to care for themselves
    under the Lanterman Petris-Short Act (LPS). (Eric B., at p. 1092.)
    8      On this court’s request, the parties provided supplemental briefing
    regarding the applicability of Eric B., supra, 
    12 Cal.5th 1085
     and People v.
    Cannon (2022) 
    85 Cal.App.5th 786
     to this contention. In the Cannon case,
    the appellant, an SVP, contended his constitutional right to equal protection
    was violated by the court’s failure to advise him of his right to a jury trial or
    to elicit his personal waiver of this right. The People conceded SVP’s are
    similarly situated to MDO’s and NGI’s for purposes of the jury trial laws in
    question. (Id. at p. 796.) The court concluded the rational basis standard,
    governed. (Id. at p. 798.) The court remanded the matter for a determination
    of whether the disparate treatment could be constitutionally justified.
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    The California Supreme Court reiterated that as a matter of
    constitutional law, the right against compelled testimony does not apply in
    commitment proceedings that arise in connection with criminal charges.
    Citing to a United States Supreme Court case and to its own jurisprudence in
    People v. Leonard (2000) 
    78 Cal.App.4th 776
    , 792-793, the court reasoned,
    “the proceedings were designed only to determine the subjects’ status,
    including the potential for danger and need of mental health treatment, and
    that their testimony offered reliable evidence on these issues.” (Eric B.,
    supra, 12 Cal.5th at pp. 1098-1099.)
    The Eric B. court nevertheless analyzed the issue on statutory grounds
    and equal protection principles: “ ‘Because of the fundamental interests at
    stake, equal protection principles are often invoked in civil commitment cases
    to ensure that the statutory scheme applicable to a particular class of persons
    has not treated them unfairly in comparison with other groups with similar
    characteristics.’ [Citation.] An equal protection analysis has two steps.
    ‘ “ ‘The first prerequisite . . . is a showing that the state has adopted a
    classification that affects two or more similarly situated groups in an unequal
    manner.’ [Citations.] This initial inquiry is not whether persons are
    similarly situated for all purposes, but ‘whether they are similarly situated
    for purposes of the law challenged.’ ” ’ [Citation.] If the groups are similarly
    situated, the next question is whether the disparate treatment can be
    justified by a constitutionally sufficient state interest.” (Eric B., supra, 12
    Cal.5th at p. 1102.)
    Eric B. concluded as to the first prong of the above test, “despite their
    differences, we conclude NGI’s and traditional LPS conservatees ‘are
    sufficiently similar to bring into play equal protection principles that require
    a court to determine “ ‘whether distinctions between the two groups justify
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    the unequal treatment.’ ” ’ ” (Eric B., supra, 12 Cal.5th at pp. 1106-1107.)
    Specifically, both NGI’s and LPS’s “are subject to involuntary confinement
    that could be extended indefinitely, and both are committed for the dual
    purposes of mental health treatment and public protections.” (Id. at pp.
    1102-1103.)
    As to the next prong, the court ruled: “Decisions from the Courts of
    Appeal have reached differing conclusions about the level of scrutiny
    appropriate for assessing claims of disparate treatment in civil commitments.
    [Citations.] Because the courts below did not reach this prong of the equal
    protection analysis, arguments have not been well developed here concerning
    the proper degree of scrutiny or whether the government can demonstrate a
    sufficient justification for granting the testimonial privilege to NGI’s but not
    traditional LPS conservatees.” (Eric B., supra, 12 Cal.5th at p. 1107.)
    The Eric B. court recognized that there was no basis for relief:
    “Ordinarily, we would remand to the trial court for a hearing at which the
    Public Guardian would have an opportunity to show why the differential
    treatment is constitutionally justified. [Citation.] However, the Court of
    Appeal determined the error in this case was harmless under either the state
    (. . . Watson, supra, 46 Cal.2d at p. 836) or federal (. . . Chapman 
    supra,
     386
    U.S. at. p. 24) standard for harmless error.” (Eric B., supra, 12 Cal.5th at p.
    1107.) The court concluded: “Whether the government can justify its
    differential treatment of traditional conservatees with regard to this right
    must await decision in another case.” (Id. at p. 1108.)
    Likewise, here, even assuming without deciding that NGI’s and SVP’s
    are sufficiently similar for purposes of applying Crawford protections equally
    to them, we have applied the more stringent Chapman standard and
    concluded all of Hubbs’s claimed errors were harmless. We have pointed out
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    that he does not make a sufficiency of the evidence claim; his trial counsel
    conceded that she was not challenging the fact that he had prior convictions
    for sex offenses; and the testifying doctors examined Hubbs themselves and
    did not rely exclusively on any submitted evidence for their conclusions that
    Hubbs has a diagnosed pedophilic disorder. Accordingly, following Eric B.,
    supra, 
    12 Cal.5th 1085
     we need not remand the matter to the trial court for
    its determination of whether the government can justify its differential
    treatment.
    VII. Cumulative Error
    Hubbs contends: “The combined prejudicial effect was significant but
    hard to argue specifically because [he] cannot determine in advance which
    allegations of error this court will endorse.” He reiterates his arguments that
    two errors “infected the entire” case: the court’s decision to allow the
    prosecution “to do a massive document dump instead of presenting only
    admissible evidence”; and his representation by a public defender who had a
    conflict of interest.
    Under the cumulative error doctrine, while a number of errors may be
    harmless taken individually, their cumulative effect requires reversal.
    (People v. Bunyard (1988) 
    45 Cal.3d 1189
    , 1236-1237, disapproved on another
    ground in People v. Diaz (2015) 
    60 Cal.4th 1176
    , 1190.)
    Here, Hubbs’s counsel stated she was not challenging the SVPA prong
    relating to the fact of his conviction. The court relied on the diagnoses and
    opinions of Drs. Owen and Jenkins, who diagnosed Hubbs with pedophilic
    disorder. They opined that, as a result, he had a mental disorder that
    predisposes him to committing criminal sexual acts and, if he were to be
    released to the community, he was likely to commit another sexually violent
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    predatory offense. They explained the bases for their opinions. As stated,
    Hubbs did not present contrary evidence.
    We have considered extensively Hubbs’s claims of error separately and
    found no prejudice; therefore, viewed cumulatively, our conclusion is the
    same. “Defendant was entitled to a fair trial but not a perfect one.” (People
    v. Cunningham (2001) 
    25 Cal.4th 926
    , 1009.) Hubbs was not deprived of a
    fair trial.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    O’ROURKE, J.
    WE CONCUR:
    HUFFMAN, Acting P. J.
    DO, J.
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