Alcaraz v. DMW Industries CA5 ( 2023 )


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  • Filed 2/7/23 Alcaraz v. DMW Industries CA5
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    IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    RAUL ALCARAZ et al.,
    F082417
    Plaintiffs and Appellants,
    (Super. Ct. No. BCV-15-100055)
    v.
    DMW INDUSTRIES, INC.,                                                                    OPINION
    Defendant and Respondent.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Kern County. Stephen D.
    Schuett, Judge.
    Justice Law Corporation, Douglas Han, Shunt Tatavos-Gharajeh, and Talia Lux
    for Plaintiffs and Appellants.
    Belden Blaine Raytis, T. Scott Belden, and Kaleb L. Judy; Hodges Law Group and
    Nathan M. Hodges for Defendant and Respondent.
    -ooOoo-
    INTRODUCTION
    Plaintiffs/appellants Raul Alcaraz and Robert Mann1 (collectively, “plaintiffs”)
    appeal from an order of the Kern County Superior Court denying plaintiffs’ motion for
    class certification in connection with various class action claims asserted against
    plaintiffs’ former employer, defendant/respondent DMW Industries, Inc. (DMW). We
    affirm in part, reverse in part, and remand for further proceedings.
    PREFACE
    In the following opinion, we conclude, among other things, that certain class
    claims at issue present predominant common questions of law and fact with regard to
    liability whereas others do not. In doing so, however, we wish to clearly state that our
    opinion should not be construed as directing the trial court to certify the class for each, or
    any, of those class claims. Rather, we remand to the trial court to continue its analysis of
    the remaining considerations relevant to class certification.
    We also note that, in denying class certification for the claims we identify herein
    as presenting predominant common questions of law and fact (the rest and meal break
    claims and steel-toe boot reimbursement claims), the trial court identified numerous
    considerations that will remain relevant to the rest and meal break claims once the court
    resumes its analysis and which the court will need to consider anew. However, as
    discussed herein, we view those considerations as relating primarily to the manageability
    of individual issues related to damages, rather than whether common questions of law
    1 The notice of appeal filed in this matter only identifies plaintiff Raul Alcaraz as
    “Plaintiff/Petitioner.” (Some capitalization omitted.) However, the original briefing in
    this matter identified both Mann and Alcaraz as appellants. At oral argument, plaintiffs’
    counsel advised that, after briefing in this matter was completed, plaintiffs’ counsel lost
    all contact with Mann and that the appeal “at this juncture” should be considered as being
    brought by Alcaraz. Based on this concession, we acknowledge Mann has abandoned the
    appeal. Notwithstanding, because this concession appears to be premised on facts that
    occurred after appellate briefing was completed, we continue to refer to appellants using
    the plural term “plaintiffs.”
    2.
    and fact predominate as to liability issues. Because “we analyze the propriety of an order
    denying class certification based solely on the lower court’s stated reason for [its]
    decision” and “ignore any other grounds which might support denial” (Weinstat v.
    Dentsply Internat., Inc. (2010) 
    180 Cal.App.4th 1213
    , 1223–1224), we are precluded
    from ruling on the manageability of individual issues independent of the trial court. The
    trial court is best positioned to make such judgment calls.
    Finally, we wish to acknowledge the relatively unusual nature of DMW employee
    field work. Without making any findings or pronouncements in that regard, we
    acknowledge issues pertaining to class certification may be complicated by the nature of
    their work. Again, the trial court is best positioned to assess these issues and their
    significance with regard to class certification.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    Plaintiffs are former employees of DMW, an oilfield welding services operation
    headquartered in Bakersfield, California.
    I.     THE PLEADINGS
    On May 14, 2015, Alcaraz filed a class action complaint against DMW and Does 1
    through 50 alleging various causes of action for Labor Code violations, and unfair and
    unlawful business practices under Business and Professions Code section 17200 (section
    17200 claim). The complaint also included a cause of action under the Labor Code
    Private Attorneys General Act of 2004 (PAGA) (Lab. Code, § 2698 et seq.).2 On
    July 15, 2015, DMW demurred to the complaint in lieu of filing an answer.
    On September 18, 2015, plaintiffs filed a first amended class action complaint
    alleging the same or similar causes of action. It was at that time that Mann, also a former
    employee of DMW, was first joined as a named plaintiff in the case.
    2All subsequent statutory references are to the Labor Code unless stated
    otherwise.
    3.
    On November 18, 2015, upon the parties’ stipulation, the trial court granted
    plaintiffs leave to file a second amended complaint which was filed that same day. The
    recitals in the parties’ stipulation indicate they had reached an agreement the amendments
    would “reflect that . . . Alcaraz is bringing the sixth cause of action for PAGA, and that
    . . . Mann is bringing the class claims . . . .”
    The complaint was amended several times thereafter culminating in plaintiffs’
    fifth amended class action complaint (governing complaint) filed on November 20, 2018.
    As with the preceding versions, the fifth amended complaint alleged the same or similar
    causes of action as the initial complaint.
    On December 26, 2018, DMW answered the governing complaint. It generally
    denied plaintiffs’ claims and alleged 26 affirmative defenses.
    On June 25, 2020, plaintiffs filed a motion for class certification. On December 4,
    2020, the trial court issued its ruling to deny plaintiffs’ motion. The order adopting the
    court’s ruling was entered on January 14, 2021, and notice of its entry was given on
    February 1, 2021. (We refer to the order and the ruling upon which it was based as the
    “subject order.”)
    On February 16, 2021, upon the request of Alcaraz, the clerk of court dismissed
    Alcaraz’s PAGA claim without prejudice.
    On February 18, 2021, plaintiffs timely appealed the subject order. 3
    II.    FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS IN THE G OVERNING COMPLAINT
    The following allegations are contained in the governing complaint.
    Alcaraz was employed by DMW from September 2013 to March 2015, as “an
    hourly-paid, non-exempt employee” in various capacities including as a “driver, a
    ‘trailer’, and a fire watchperson.” His duties in these roles included “driving hauls back
    and forth between locations, prepar[ing] and inspect[ing] trucks, gather[ing] and
    3   See footnote 1, ante.
    4.
    inspect[ing] equipment and tools, load[ing] and unload[ing] trailers, conduct[ing] fire
    watch duties for [d]efendant’s welding department, and monitor[ing] for possible fires
    and safety issues.”
    Mann was employed by defendants from June 2011 to December 2013, as “an
    hourly-paid, non-exempt employee” in various capacities including as a “driver, welder,
    and general welder.” His duties in these roles included “perform[ing] field welding and
    shop welding, [driving] and operat[ing] trucks, prepar[ing] and inspect[ing] trucks, and
    perform[ing] general labor.”
    A.     First Cause of Action Regarding Meal Period and Rest Period Wages
    In the first cause of action, Mann alleges that he, the class, and affected subclass
    members “had the right to take a 10-minute rest break for every four (4) hours worked or
    major fraction thereof, and a 30-minute meal period for every five (5) hours worked”;
    and that DMW “as a pattern and practice, . . . would regularly require . . . Mann and other
    employees to work shifts exceeding 10 hours and did not provide [them] with meal
    periods and rest breaks according to the time periods outlined in . . . [sections] 226.7,
    [and] 512, [or] provide proper compensation for this failure . . . .”
    Mann alleges DMW instructed its employees “to record that they took meal and
    rest periods” even when they did not, and when they were “provided with meal and rest
    periods, [employees] would regularly be rushed, pressed to cut-short [sic] or interrupted
    and were not paid the proper [wage] premiums for these violations.” Mann also alleges
    DMW failed to provide employees with required cool-down rest periods to protect them
    against heat illness and did not compensate them for these violations.
    B.     Second Cause of Action Regarding Overtime Wages
    In the second cause of action, Mann alleges that DMW “was required to
    compensate [its] non-exempt employees minimum wages for all hours worked and
    overtime wages for all hours worked in excess of eight (8) hours in a day or forty (40)
    hours in a workweek”; and that “as a pattern and practice . . . DMW . . . regularly
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    required . . . Mann and other employees to work in excess” of those amounts, “regularly
    miscalculated overtime compensation by failing to pay daily overtime after eight hours
    per day,” and would only compensate its employees for time billed to DMW’s clients
    rather than for actual time worked. He alleges DMW engaged in a pattern and practice of
    “requiring employees to arrive earlier than their shift to perform pre-shift work” without
    compensation and to “remain ‘on-call’ with a restrictive response time, which required
    . . . [employees] to remain within a short distance from [DMW’s] yard.” He alleges
    DMW failed to compensate its employees for “time spent performing pre-shift work” and
    “for remaining on-call and for responding to on-call time.” Mann contends these patterns
    and practices violated sections 510 and 1194.
    C.     Third Cause of Action Regarding Waiting Time Penalties
    In the third cause of action, Mann alleges DMW “was required to pay its
    employees all wages owed in a timely fashion at the end of employment pursuant to . . .
    [sections] 201 to 204” and, as a result of these violations, DMW “regularly failed to pay
    [them] their final wages . . . and accordingly owe waiting time penalties pursuant to . . .
    [section] 203.” These claims are alleged to be derivative of those alleged in the first and
    second causes of action.
    D.     Fourth Cause of Action Regarding Record Keeping
    In the fourth cause of action, Mann alleges DMW “failed . . . to keep accurate
    records regarding the rates of pay for their California employees.” The claim is
    derivative of those alleged in the first and second causes of action. Mann contends the
    practice violates subdivision (a) of section 226 entitling him and other class members to
    damages and/or penalties, interest thereon, reasonable attorney’s fees, and costs of suit.
    E.     Fifth Cause of Action Regarding Business Expenses
    In the fifth cause of action, Mann alleges that DMW “was required to indemnify
    [its] employees for all necessary expenditures or losses incurred in direct consequence of
    the discharge of [their] duties, or of [their] obedience to the directions of [DMW]
    6.
    pursuant to . . . [section] 2802”; and that DMW violated said statute by requiring its
    employees “to purchase and provide their own safety equipment including, but not
    limited to steel toe boots, travel reimbursement to off-site training sessions, mileage
    reimbursement for responding to on-call schedule, laundering [their] own uniforms, and
    mileage for out-of-town travel.” Mann contends the practice violates section 2802 and
    entitles him and other class members to damages and/or penalties, interest thereon,
    reasonable attorney’s fees, and costs of suit.
    F.     Sixth Cause of Action (PAGA claim)
    The sixth cause of action is a PAGA claim brought by Alcaraz. This claim is not
    at issue on appeal.
    G.     Seventh Cause of Action (section 17200 claim)
    In the seventh cause of action, Mann alleges the previously alleged violations
    “constitute[] unfair, unlawful competition and provides an unfair advantage over
    [DMW’s] competitors” in violation of Business and Professions Code section 17200 et
    seq., and entitles him and other class members to “full restitution of monies . . . to restore
    any and all monies withheld, acquired and/or converted by [DMW] by means of” said
    practices.
    III.   CLASS CERTIFICATION PROCEEDINGS
    On January 23, 2017, the trial court issued a Joint Case Management Order [sic]
    and Order (boldface & some capitalization omitted) (case management order) adopting
    the parties’ Joint Case Management Statement. The case management order noted the
    “parties engaged in a Belair[4 ] opt-out procedure in order for [p]laintiffs to be able to
    obtain class contact information,” and the parties’ agreement that a class certification
    motion should be delayed due to settlement discussions.
    4 Belaire-West Landscape, Inc. v. Superior Court (2007) 
    149 Cal.App.4th 554
    (Belaire).
    7.
    On June 25, 2020, plaintiffs filed a motion to certify proposed class and subclasses
    for the class action claims. Specifically, plaintiffs sought an ord er certifying a class
    described as follows: “all current and former California-based hourly-paid or non-
    exempt field employees who worked for [DMW] at any time during the period from
    May 14, 2011 to class certification” (overarching class). In addition, plaintiffs sought
    certification of the following subclasses:
    “(a)    Meal Period Subclass: all Defendant’s non-exempt
    employees who worked one or more shifts in excess of six (6)
    hours in California who were not provided a 30-minute break
    during which they were relieved of all duties, during the
    period from May 14, 2011 to the present;
    “(b)    Alternative Meal Period Subclass: all Defendant[’s] non-
    exempt employees who worked one or more shifts in excess
    of twelve (12) hours in California who were not provided a
    30-minute break during which they were relieved of all
    duties, during the period from May 14, 2011 to the present [5 ];
    “(c)    Rest Break Subclass: all Defendant[’s] non-exempt
    employees who worked one or more shifts of three and one-
    half (3.5) hours or more in California who were not provided
    a 10-minute break during which they were relieved of all
    duties, during the period from May 14, 2011 to the present;
    “(d)    Overtime Subclass: all Defendant[’s] non-exempt employees
    who worked in excess of eight (8) hours in a day or forty (40)
    hours in a week, during the period from May 14, 2011 to the
    present;
    “(e)    Minimum Wage Subclass: all Defendant[’s] non-exempt
    employees who worked in California and were not properly
    paid all minimum wages during the period from May 14,
    2011 to the present[;]
    “(f)    Business Expense Reimbursement Subclass: all
    Defendant[’s] non-exempt employees who worked in
    5  For purposes of this opinion, we consider and treat the meal period and
    alternative meal period subclasses and claims collectively.
    8.
    California and incurred business expenses that were not
    reimbursed during the period from May 14, 2011 to the
    present.”
    A.     Plaintiffs’ Evidence in Support of the Class Certification Motion
    In support of the motion, plaintiffs’ attorney, Daniel J. Park, filed a declaration
    outlining, among other things, his qualifications as an attorney and his experience in
    handling class action cases and representative PAGA matters. He also averred “[i]n or
    around March, 2016, Simpluris Inc., the third party administrator selected by the parties
    to administer the Belaire process, sent notices to the 155 class members on the class list
    Defendant provided Simpluris.” In addition, he authenticated declarations obtained from
    several putative class members, excerpts from the deposition of David Martin Miller (i.e.,
    DMW’s principal),6 documents produced by DMW in discovery including DMW’s
    “Company Policy Handbook—II Edition” (2011 handbook); DMW’s “Employee
    Handbook—DMW Industries, Inc.—Revised August 2014” (2014 handbook); and
    “weekly pay records with corresponding handwritten time sheets, job completion forms,
    and job and time summaries for the week of work . . . .”
    1. Former DMW Employee Declarations—Putative Class Members
    In support of their class certification motion, plaintiffs offered the declarations of
    four former DMW employees, Salvador Castillo, Carlos Gomez, Nicholas Beavers, and
    Michael O’Neill. Except for minor variations and occasional facts specific to each
    declarant’s job or experience, the declarations are largely identical. The substance of
    those declarations is set forth below.
    Each of the declarants worked “predominantly in the field on wells and rigs on oil
    leases in Kern County.” Castillo worked for DMW “in or about 2015 to 2016” as a “fire
    6Miller was substituted in as a defendant for defendant Doe 1 on May 13, 2016, in
    connection with the PAGA cause of action only. The record reveals Miller demurred to
    the PAGA cause of action on December 26, 2018, and that he was removed as a
    defendant on December 10, 2019. As mentioned, the PAGA cause of action was
    dismissed without prejudice prior to the appeal.
    9.
    watch, welder helper, welder and tool mover.”7 Gomez worked for DMW “in or about
    2009 to December 2015” as a “fire watch, welder helper, welder and tool mover.”
    Beavers worked for DMW “in or about 2012 to 2015” as a “welder’s helper and lead
    man.” O’Neill worked for DMW “from about November, 2013 to April, 2015” as a “fire
    watch, a hydro testing hand, and hydro tester.”
    Each declarant averred he “never received payment of a meal break premium or
    rest break premium” and was “not told what these were by DMW.” None of the
    declarants worked a “set weekly schedule.”
    Each declarant stated, “DMW routinely failed to provide [him] with 30-minute or
    60-minute off-duty meal breaks and 10-minute off-duty rest breaks. The workload was
    heavy and the nature of the work would not allow [him] to take a meal or rest break.”
    The declarants explained that when a welder begins to weld, workers cannot take breaks
    because it will “jeopardize the final product” and “potentially ruin a well head.” “Taking
    breaks during the welding process would also result in excessive billing and inefficient
    use of time, as stopping the process and reheating the metal to get it to the right
    temperature would waste time.” The employees had to constantly monitor the welding
    process and the client’s “man on-site monitored” the workers.
    There would be occasions for “downtime”—“typically available only when we
    were in between jobs or arrived at a job site” when, for example, cement was being
    poured. “Therefore, DMW had no official meal and rest break policy . . . other than
    instructions from DMW’s dispatch to eat something along the way to the next job site or
    if downtime allowed.” They were not permitted to leave the jobsite during downtime
    because they “had to be present and ready to immediately resume work when welding
    was required.” The only time they were permitted to leave for a break was when the
    7
    Castillo would later admit at deposition he did not work as a welder while
    employed at DMW.
    10.
    client’s company man on-site specifically authorized it, which was rare. If they worked
    more than 10 hours in a shift, they were “never provided . . . a second 30-minute off-duty
    meal break” and were never paid for breaks they were not allowed to take.
    Their work hours would be communicated to them on their personal cell phones
    from DMW’s dispatch. They were required to respond “within 30 to 45 minutes”—even
    on days off. Dispatch would instruct them to “report to DMW’s yard . . . at a specified
    time, usually within one (1) hour” for eventual dispatch to an off-site job. Before their
    day was through, they would “regularly receive[] another call or text from dispatch on
    [their] personal cell phone with information” for the next job or were expected to call
    dispatch to see if there was another job to report to.
    When off work but “on-call,” if the declarants did not respond to dispatch within
    the required time, they would be reprimanded. If they did not respond at all, their hours
    would be cut “so that [they] would be starved out of work.” “Based on [their]
    observations and conversations with supervisors and dispatch,” if an employee did not
    take the call, declined work, or failed to respond, those employees “were starved out and
    eventually fired.” According to some, this was per “instructions by . . . Miller.” Castillo
    averred he was personally instructed by Miller “not to travel anywhere that exceeds a
    thirty (30) minute drive while on-call” and that he was required to notify dispatch if he
    had to travel while on call. On one occasion Castillo was verbally reprimanded when he
    could not work due to childcare responsibilities and was told by Miller he “had to be
    available to work at all times.” The declarants were “never compensated for time spent
    on-call.”
    Each declarant averred he “regularly worked shifts longer than twelve (12) hours”
    and would frequently work “consecutive days for a total of 70 to 80 hours during a
    week.” Each declarant stated, “with DMW’s timekeeping, a shift’s hours [were] reset
    overnight at midnight so that even if I worked through the night, a new day’s shift started
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    while [he] was on the clock.” The declarants do not explain the relevance of this
    contention or how it impacted them.
    The declarants were required to record the hours they worked on timecards to be
    turned in to DMW’s payroll department but were not allowed to record all the actual
    hours they worked. They were instructed on the number of hours to record by DMW
    dispatch and payroll based on what the welder on the job recorded. They were never
    compensated for the full amount of time necessary to “perform preparatory work” such as
    the time it took them to don personal protective equipment (i.e., “steel-toed boots,
    hardhats, glasses, gloves, and fire retardant clothing”), to “gather[] tools,” and “conduct[]
    a pre-shift vehicle inspection.” O’Neill stated he was “instructed by payroll to round the
    time down to the nearest 30-minute interval instead of the time [he] arrived at the
    yard. . . . [E]verything was rounded to the nearest 30 minutes.”
    DMW payroll required the declarants to report that they took “meal breaks after
    every fifth hour when [they] worked in the field” even though they did not receive a
    break. They were instructed that they would not get paid unless they reported meal
    breaks as instructed. In a supplemental declaration, Castillo also averred he was required
    to attend weekly safety meetings but was instructed by Miller not to record the time he
    spent in those meetings.
    DMW withheld the declarants’ paychecks if they failed to provide payroll with
    “job tickets”—documents provided to them by the DMW client for whom they were
    performing work which reflected the “number of hours that were charged for the job.”
    The DMW welders would complete the job tickets and the declarants would copy the
    information onto their timecards. The declarants were required to conduct job safety
    analyses prior to entering a jobsite and throughout their work on the site and, at the end of
    their shift, were required to complete related paperwork. They were not compensated for
    performing this paperwork.
    12.
    DMW required declarants to wear personal protective equipment such as fire-
    retardant clothing and steel-toe boots which they purchased for themselves. They were
    never reimbursed for all such purchases or for company-related cell phone usage.
    The declarants averred that when their respective employments were terminated,
    DMW failed to pay them the wages they were owed, including for “off-the-clock work
    . . . and meal and rest premiums” and has still failed to pay those wages.
    2. Declaration of Plaintiff Raul Alcaraz
    Alcaraz stated he worked “one or more shifts over three and a half hours in
    length,” “one or more shifts between six and eight hours in length,” and “one or more
    shifts greater than ten hours in length,” and “never received payment of a meal break
    premium or rest break premium.” His declaration is largely identical to declarations of
    Castillo, Gomez, Beavers, and O’Neill, except he also discusses his suitability as a class
    representative—notwithstanding the fact all class claims, by stipulation, were brought by
    Mann. Alcaraz stated he knows he has the following duties: “a. Represent the interests
    of all members of the Class; [¶] b. Always consider the interests of the Class just as I
    would consider my own interests, and put the interests of the Class before my own
    interests[; ¶] c. This means that I am a fiduciary of the Class that I understand to mean I
    cannot ‘sell out’ the Class for my own personal gain; [¶] d. Always actively participate
    in the lawsuit by, amongst other things, searching for documents, keeping in contact with
    my attorneys and answering their questions as needed—which I believe I have done so
    far; . . . [¶] e. Follow the progress of the lawsuit and provide all relevant facts to my
    attorneys[; and ¶] f. In short, I understand I am pursuing claims on behalf of people that
    may not want to or may be unable to file their own lawsuits.” He continued, “I have
    spent a substantial amount of time on this litigation. Among other things, I searched for
    documents as part of my duty as a plaintiff, I consult with my attorneys on a regular
    basis, and I assisted my attorneys in preparing this declaration.”
    13.
    3. DMW Policy Handbooks and Pay-related Records
    Plaintiffs submitted portions of DMW’s 2011 handbook and 2014 handbook and
    provided time sheets, job completion forms and pay records they contend constitute
    “prima facie evidence of a uniform practice applicable to all class members.” The trial
    court sustained DMW’s objections to the time sheets, job completion forms and pay
    records.8 On appeal, plaintiffs do not challenge the trial court’s ruling on DMW’s
    objections.
    4. Deposition of Miller
    Miller was deposed in his individual capacity and as the “PMK on behalf of
    DMW . . . .”9 (Some capitalization omitted.) He testified DMW “employees are paid
    from the time they get to the yard to the time they leave.” He confirmed DMW does not
    pay its employees for “on-call” time. He confirmed DMW’s policy “in 2011 through
    2014” was that “ ‘when working conditions permit impending [sic] a supervisor’s
    approval, employees are entitled to one ten-minute break for every four hours worked.’ ”
    He noted that DMW’s policy is, as reflected in the 2011 handbook, employees “will get
    their break . . . anywhere from two hours to four hours” and that “they have to work
    around the specific job that they’re on. And that’s why it says supervisor’s approval.”
    The 2011 handbook reads, in relevant part: “[w]hen working conditions permit, and
    pending a supervisor’s approval, employees are entitled to one 10 minute break for every
    4 hours worked.” The 2011 handbook also reads, in part: “Meal periods are for 60
    minutes, and specific times must be approved by a supervisor.” However, Miller testified
    8DMW objected on grounds of hearsay, lack of foundation, lack of authentication,
    and lack of personal knowledge.
    9 PMK commonly refers to the “person most knowledgeable” or “person most
    qualified” to testify at deposition on behalf of an entity as to specified matters. (Code
    Civ. Proc., § 2025.230.)
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    this provision applied only to office employees. Employees working in the field received
    30-minute meal breaks.
    B.      DMW’s Evidence in Opposition to the Class Certification Motion
    1. Deposition Testimony of Plaintiffs’ Declarants
    DMW submitted excerpts from the deposition testimony of declarants Castillo,
    Gomez, Beavers, O’Neill, and Alcaraz in opposition to plaintiffs’ class certification
    motion.
    a. Castillo Deposition
    Castillo testified that welding a “starter head” would typically take two to four
    hours. At the end of every job, he would turn in “rig tickets” which reflected the number
    of hours worked on a specific job. If a job took an hour or two, DMW still charged a
    minimum of four hours for the job but the employee only got paid for the hour or two
    worked. Castillo completed his timecards daily and turned them in weekly. If he did not
    put a lunch time hour or when he took breaks on his timecard, he would be called to the
    office to fill in the missing time.
    Castillo acknowledged receiving a boot voucher from a particular store to obtain
    work boots but they never had his size. As a result, he purchased other work boots with
    his own money.
    b. Gomez Deposition
    Gomez testified his typical crew size was seven people but could be as few as two
    persons counting himself. Two-person jobs typically took two to three hours to
    complete. On a four-job stint, which the company charged for 16 hours, Gomez would
    probably work 12 hours. The remainder of his time was spent driving.
    Although he logged meal periods on his timecards, Gomez never received a lunch
    break when out in the field during his six years of employment at DMW. He was
    informed by DMW personnel that he would not get paid unless he wrote those meal
    periods on his timecards. He testified he was paid “from the moment [they] entered until
    15.
    the moment [they] got out, but [they] also started before that to prep what [they] needed
    to prep.” They were not paid for that prep time. Similarly, they were not paid for time
    spent on the job unloading once they returned to the yard.
    Gomez acknowledged receiving an allowance for boots “maybe three, four times.”
    c. Beavers Deposition
    Beavers testified that at times he was compensated by DMW starting from the
    moment he arrived at the DMW yard and that, at other times, he was only compensated
    starting from the time he left the DMW yard to go to a jobsite. In the latter case, he
    would not be compensated for preparing to leave for the jobsite—i.e., “getting stuff
    ready, wellheads, leads, welding rods for the welder, [and] stuff like that.” He estimated
    the latter case occurred anywhere from 50 percent to 60 percent of the time. He did not
    typically get paid for work that occurred after he returned to the yard —e.g., setting up for
    an upcoming job. He estimated he did not get paid for such time after returning from a
    jobsite approximately 60 percent of the time.
    Beavers testified he did receive a boot voucher one time during his employment
    with DMW.
    d. O’Neill Deposition
    O’Neill testified he was paid from the time he showed up at the DMW yard to the
    time he left the yard and that he was, in fact, compensated for work performed at the yard
    including prep work.
    e. Alcaraz Deposition
    Alcaraz testified he started looking for an attorney to represent him in connection
    with his grievances against DMW after DMW began reducing his hours. He had to apply
    for unemployment insurance because he was unable to get 40 hours of work. He
    speculated he “got on one of the supervisor’s bad side or dispatch’s bad side” and that
    DMW was starting to “starve [him] out.” He believes he was wrongfully terminated,
    “personally being victimized,” and “targeted.”
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    Alcaraz never complained to DMW office personnel about DMW’s compensation
    practices. He indicated it was the general complaint of his coworkers that “if you rocked
    the boat over there, they are going to get rid of you.” However, he was unable to name
    anyone in particular who had been let go because they “rocked the boat.”
    If he had a “scheduled” day off, he could still be called to work, but could decline
    going to work. If he was scheduled to work and declined, he indicated “they will starve
    you out.”
    He confirmed receiving a $200 voucher for steel-toe safety boots on a single
    occasion. However, all the boots were more than $200, so he had to come up with the
    remainder out of his own pocket. He had to buy at least four pairs of boots using his own
    money.
    Alcaraz confirmed his signature on an “Arbitration Agreement/Acknowledgment.”
    (Boldface omitted.) He did not recall signing the arbitration agreement or having it
    explained to him but believes he was forced to sign it in order to pick up his paycheck
    because “[t]hat’s how they usually did it” when they needed an employee to sign a
    document. The arbitration agreement, signed by Alcaraz on August 13, 2014, reads, in
    part:
    “[T]here will be no right or authority for any dispute to be brought,
    heard or arbitrated as a class, collective or representative action.
    (‘Class Action Waiver’). Notwithstanding any other clause contained in
    this Agreement, the preceding sentence shall not be severable from this
    Agreement in any case in which the dispute to be arbitrated is brought as a
    class, collective or representative action. . . . Notwithstanding any other
    clause contained in this Agreement, any claim that all or part of the Class
    Action Waiver is unenforceable, unconscionable, void or voidable may be
    determined only by a court of competent jurisdiction and not by an
    arbitrator.”
    At the time of his deposition, Alcaraz indicated he had not spoken with his
    coplaintiff, Mann, for about a year.
    17.
    2. DMW’s Declarations of Current and Former DMW Employees
    a. Field Employee Declarations
    DMW submitted declarations from a number of its current and former employees
    including five field employees. With varying levels of specificity, each of the field
    employees averred they were paid for all time worked for DMW. Those that made
    mention of attending safety meetings, training, and drug testing, or performing work
    before leaving to a jobsite or after returning from a jobsite, all averred they were paid for
    their time. Some specifically mentioned their understanding they were to be paid from
    the moment they arrived at the DMW yard to the time they left the yard at the end of the
    day. Some mentioned adding additional time to their timecards to allow for any
    additional work at the end of the day, or to match a customer’s “four-hour minimum
    arrangement with DMW.” Some mentioned rounding time up or down to the nearest half
    hour. At least two of the field employees stated that, when they had noticed their
    compensation did not match the hours they actually worked, DMW corrected the error.
    The field employees were relatively consistent in stating there was enough time to
    take lunch breaks and rest breaks during downtime or standby time. However, one
    declarant stated “[s]ome days are busy and there is hardly time for a break” but also noted
    “some days you’ll spend five or ten hours sitting in the truck with nothing to do.” Some
    expressly stated no one at DMW told them when they could or could not take a break,
    and that the policy was to “take them when you can.” As one declarant described it, “The
    Drill Site Manager would always let you know what was going on so you could plan
    around when they actually needed you.” Another stated DMW told him he “was
    supposed to take a lunch for every five hours of work” but that many employees did not
    take a “formal lunch.” He indicated he never kept track of his lunch time because “most
    of the ‘work’ was just sitting in the truck waiting for the rig to be ready for us.” He “just
    wrote down that [he] took a break every five hours.” No one told him he could not leave
    a jobsite for a meal break “but that was kind of a gray area. [He] did not usually feel like
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    [he] could leave, and most of the time [he] had [his] lunch with [him], so [he] didn’t want
    to leave.” Another stated, he was never told he could not leave a jobsite, but most of the
    time it would not be possible to leave a jobsite and get back within a half an hour.
    With regard to issues raised by plaintiffs’ reimbursement claims, four field
    employees stated DMW gave them fire-retardant clothing or a “uniform.” Some stated
    they already had steel-toe boots and several noted DMW provided them with vouchers
    for steel-toe boots either yearly or in “[s]ome years.” Some declarants noted DMW
    provided them with cell phones. Others noted DMW did not supply them with cell
    phones but acknowledged cell phones were not required—DMW simply needed a means
    of contacting them.
    One declarant, Brandon Green, also worked as a dispatcher for a period of time
    with DMW. According to his declaration, off-site jobs would get scheduled when a
    “Drill Site Manager managing a rig in the field” would call and tell DMW it needed a
    crew. Typically, DMW would receive four hours’ notice to get a crew on-site but it
    could be as little as two hours’ notice. DMW would then figure out which employees
    should respond based on “things like who was working that day, who had been out all
    night on a long job, who was already going to be working close by, etc.” DMW would
    then call or text the employees. “If someone did not respond to dispatch[, he] would
    simply go on to the next person” and put the nonresponding employee on the bottom of
    the call list—the only “consequence[] for an isolated incident.” “If it happened
    repeatedly management would get involved.” At some point, DMW “moved to a more
    formal system where[,] instead of just calling dispatch and asking for time off[,] people
    would have set days off every week, and they could trade them with other people or
    request other times off with a form.”
    b. Emily Pittman
    Emily Pittman worked for DMW in various administrative positions from 2010 to
    January 2019. During her first few years at DMW she was required to review all
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    employee timesheets and “worked closely with dispatch” to make sure they were
    accurate. She averred field employees got paid from the moment they arrived at the yard
    to start the day and would continue to get paid until they left the yard after returning from
    a jobsite. All time, including preparation time and unloading time was paid. If there was
    a problem with an employee’s paycheck, it would get fixed “right away.” Moreover, she
    never heard any complaints from field workers that they were unable to take meal or rest
    breaks.
    Pittman stated, “DMW did not require most employees to have a cell phone.”
    “[D]ispatch would call employees at whatever number the employee supplied.”
    c. Megan Miller-Julien
    Megan Miller-Julien was the vice-president of operations for DMW. She oversaw
    “billing, safety, payroll and HR departments.” From 2011 to the date of her declaration,
    she worked with DMW’s administrative staff. She was “generally . . . responsible for
    employee onboarding.” She stated DMW has posted “standard California and Federal
    employment notices” and “Wage Order 16” to inform DMW employees of their
    employment rights including, without limitation, “their right to minimum wage,”
    “overtime pay, and meal and rest breaks.”
    Miller-Julien explained that DMW employees use paper timecards to log their
    hours for the week. In addition, DMW uses “daily job-completion form (‘JCF’) for each
    job they are working on.” Typically, the lead person on the job will complete the JCF for
    the group. JCF’s are used “to create estimates and invoices” and “to create a calendar for
    each employee showing the hours they worked in the week.” The JCF, calendar, and
    timecards “are all verified against each other.” Discrepancies between them are
    addressed to the employees and, if corrections are necessary, the employee initials the
    correction. If an employee claims his or her pay is short, DMW investigates and, if
    substantiated, DMW fixes the problem.
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    Miller-Julien averred that “DMW’s policy is that employees are paid ‘gate to
    gate’. This means that as soon as they come in the gate to the facility they are on the
    clock, and they stay on the clock until they go out the gate to go home for the day.”
    (Boldface omitted.) “Employees generally round the time they write to the nearest half-
    hour.” She denied telling employees that “ ‘gate to gate’ meant they were not getting
    paid for their time in the yard getting ready for their first job, or after they got back to the
    yard for the day.” “DMW employees are advised of the exact opposite.” She denies
    telling employees “to record less time on their timecards than they actually worked.” She
    denied ever telling employees to “falsify their timecards,” to “write down that they had
    taken a meal, even if they had not,” or “what time to write down regarding when they
    took a meal.”
    Miller-Julien indicated employees are instructed to take meal breaks and to record
    them on their timecards. “Given the kind of work DMW does, we expect field
    employees to take their breaks around their hands-on work.” In 2013, DMW revised its
    timecards to reflect DMW’s policy that employees exercise their right to rest and meal
    breaks. Since then, “employees could note right on their timecard if they had missed a
    break.” “In 2014 [DMW] revised the employee handbook to bring it in line with
    California law” and to “reflect the actual policy in place.” All time spent completing
    paperwork and attending safety meetings, drug/alcohol testing, and training is on paid
    time.
    According to Miller-Julien, “DMW provides all field employees with fire-resistant
    uniforms to wear” as well as “hard hats, safety glasses, gloves, and all other safety-
    related clothing and equipment.” DMW’s “expectation is that employees show up
    wearing their work clothes, which are simply pants and a shirt, and boots.” DMW
    supplies cell phones to some employees but does not require other employees to own a
    cell phone. Employees do need some sort of telephone in order for dispatch to schedule
    them for work.
    21.
    d. Miller
    Miller was the president and chief executive officer of DMW. He owns DMW
    with his spouse and oversees DMW’s day-to-day operations. He explained “DMW is
    primarily an oilfield welding services operation.” “At any given time DMW has 12 to 15
    field employees.” During the period between 2011 and 2016, “DMW employed a total of
    about 200 people due to high rates of turnover, which is caused by the nature of the work
    and the varying industry demand for DMW’s services.” “Most of these employees work
    in two-man teams consisting of a welder and a welder’s helper” but there are “numerous
    other types of field employees.”
    Miller corroborated Miller-Julien’s averments concerning the use of timecards,
    JCF’s, and calendars to show an employee’s hours worked; and the policy of paying
    employees “ ‘gate to gate’ ” and for safety meetings. He denied ever informing
    employees “to record less time on their timecards than they actually worked,” to record
    meal breaks that had not been taken, or that they could not leave a jobsite during their
    meal breaks.
    He stated employees are issued $150 boot vouchers every year and that “lead
    employees are given a DMW-issued cell phone” to “coordinate jobs within the field.”
    However, lower-level employees (e.g., firewatch or welder’s helpers) are not typically
    issued cell phones. Dispatch contacts them “during their off-hours using whatever phone
    number they have provided to us.”
    DISCUSSION
    I.     THRESHOLD QUESTION AS TO ALCARAZ’S STANDING
    DMW contends both Mann and Alcaraz lack standing to bring this appeal and that
    this court is precluded from reaching the merits of the appeal. As mentioned in
    footnote 1, ante, plaintiffs’ counsel conceded during oral argument that their office had
    lost contact with Mann after appellate briefing was completed and that the instant appeal
    should now be construed as being brought only on behalf of Alcaraz. Based on this
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    concession, we find that Mann has abandoned the appeal and do not address his standing
    in this opinion. However, for reasons discussed below, we conclude Alcaraz has standing
    to pursue the appeal.
    In support of its argument that Alcaraz lacks standing to appeal, DMW notes
    “Alcaraz dismissed his only cause of action,” i.e., the PAGA cause of action. DMW
    contends “ ‘[a] person who was a party, but by dismissal ceased to be, is without legal
    standing as a litigant or as an appellant,’ ” quoting Bates v. John Deere Co. (1983) 
    148 Cal.App.3d 40
    , 53. DMW further contends “Alcaraz’s residual status as a member of the
    putative class does not make him a party to the litigation,” citing Hernandez v.
    Restoration Hardware, Inc. (2018) 
    4 Cal.5th 260
    , 266 [“Unnamed parties [in a class
    action] . . . are not considered ‘parties’ to the litigation.”].)
    Plaintiffs argue the PAGA claim was dismissed without prejudice in order to
    render the subject order appealable. (See Munoz v. Chipotle Mexican Grill, Inc. (2015)
    
    238 Cal.App.4th 291
    , 310 [holding that the “presence of PAGA claims following a trial
    court’s denial of class certification precludes application of the death knell doctrine”].)
    Plaintiffs note that “both [plaintiffs] sought class certification as to the class and
    subclasses at issue on appeal” and they “thoroughly hashed out how . . . Alcaraz is an
    adequate representative,” and “the trial court treated . . . Alcaraz as a class representative
    and made a ruling impacting his rights.” Plaintiffs also argue, “if a court concludes a
    named plaintiff can no longer suitably represent the class, it should afford the plaintiff the
    opportunity to amend his complaint, to redefine the class, or to add new individual
    plaintiffs, in order to establish a suitable representative,” citing Jones v. Farmers Ins.
    Exchange (2013) 
    221 Cal.App.4th 986
    , 989 (Jones).
    As for Alcaraz’s standing, although the governing complaint does seem to
    segregate the class action claims as having been brought by Mann and the PAGA claim
    by Alcaraz, it states in the opening paragraph that the governing complaint is being
    brought by both plaintiffs. Moreover, the PAGA claim itself, which appears as the sixth
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    cause of action in the governing complaint, “re-alleges and incorporates by reference” all
    the preceding causes of action including all the primary claims upon which the derivative
    claims are based. Finally, we also acknowledge that Alcaraz, as moving party, requested
    leave to amend the governing complaint in the event the court found he was not a suitable
    class representative but the trial court did not rule on the request.
    Based on the above, we conclude Alcaraz has standing to appeal in this matter.
    II.    STANDARD OF REVIEW
    “We review the trial court’s ruling for abuse of discretion. ‘Because trial courts
    are ideally situated to evaluate the efficiencies and practicalities of permitting group
    action, they are afforded great discretion in granting or denying certification. . . .
    [Accordingly,] a trial court ruling supported by substantial evidence generally will not be
    disturbed “unless (1) improper criteria were used [citation]; or (2) erroneous legal
    assumptions were made [citation]” [citation]. . . . “Any valid pertinent reason stated will
    be sufficient to uphold the order.” ’ ” (Sav-On Drug Stores, Inc. v. Superior Court (2004)
    
    34 Cal.4th 319
    , 326–327 (Sav-On).) “ ‘A trial court is generally afforded great latitude in
    granting or denying class certification . . . .’ ” (Benton v. Telecom Network Specialists,
    Inc. (2013) 
    220 Cal.App.4th 701
    , 716 (Benton).)
    “Unlike the general rule compelling a reviewing court to scrutinize the result
    below, not the trial court’s rationale, we analyze the propriety of an order denying class
    certification based solely on the lower court’s stated reason for the decision. [Citations.]
    Thus we review only the reasons advanced by the trial court and ignore any other
    grounds which might support denial.” (Weinstat v. Dentsply Internat., Inc., supra, 180
    Cal.App.4th at pp. 1223–1224, italics omitted.)
    “ ‘[A] certification ruling not supported by substantial evidence cannot stand.’ ”
    (Sav-On, 
    supra,
     34 Cal.4th at p. 328.) However, “ ‘[w]here a certification order turns on
    inferences to be drawn from the facts, “ ‘the reviewing court has no authority to substitute
    its decision for that of the trial court.’ ” ’ ” (Ibid.) We “[p]resum[e] in favor of the
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    certification order . . . the existence of every fact the trial court could reasonably deduce
    from the record.” (Id. at p. 329.) “[W]e have no authority to substitute our own
    judgment for the trial court’s” in crediting one party’s evidence over conflicting evidence
    submitted by the other party. (Id. at p. 331.) A court may decide the question of whether
    class action litigation is superior to separate lawsuits according to the preponderance of
    the evidence. (Id. at p. 332.)
    III.   G ENERAL CLASS ACTION PRINCIPLES
    Code of Civil Procedure section 382 provides, “If the consent of any one who
    should have been joined as plaintiff cannot be obtained, he may be made a defendant, the
    reason thereof being stated in the complaint; and when the question is one of a common
    or general interest, of many persons, or when the parties are numerous, and it is
    impracticable to bring them all before the court, one or more may sue or defend for the
    benefit of all.”
    “Generally, a class suit is appropriate ‘when numerous parties suffer injury of
    insufficient size to warrant individual action and when denial of class relief would result
    in unjust advantage to the wrongdoer.’ [Citations.] But because group action also has
    the potential to create injustice, trial courts are required to ‘ “carefully weigh respective
    benefits and burdens and to allow maintenance of the class action only where substantial
    benefits accrue both to litigants and the courts.” ’ ” (Linder v. Thrifty Oil Co. (2000) 
    23 Cal.4th 429
    , 435 (Linder).) “[T]he superiority criterion is manifest in the determination
    that a class action brought under Code of Civil Procedure section 382 would produce
    ‘substantial benefits’ to the litigants and the judicial system.” (Schneider v. Vennard
    (1986) 
    183 Cal.App.3d 1340
    , 1347.)
    “The certification question is ‘essentially a procedural one that does not ask
    whether an action is legally or factually meritorious.’ ” (Sav-On, 
    supra,
     34 Cal.4th at
    p. 326.) “A class action may be certified even if it is unlikely the class will eventually
    prevail on the merits, as certification in such a situation allows a defendant to obtain a
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    favorable judgment binding all class members. ‘It is far better from a fairness
    perspective to determine class certification independent of threshold questions disposing
    of the merits, and thus permit defendants who prevail on those merits, equally with those
    who lose on the merits, to obtain the preclusive benefits of such victories against an entire
    class and not just a named plaintiff.’ ” (McCleery v. Allstate Ins. Co. (2019) 
    37 Cal.App.5th 434
    , 449.)
    IV.    THE OVERARCHING CLASS IS ASCERTAINABLE
    “The party seeking certification has the burden to establish the existence of both
    an ascertainable class and a well-defined community of interest among class members.”
    (Sav-On, 
    supra,
     34 Cal.4th at p. 326.) In addressing whether the overarching class and
    subclasses are ascertainable, the trial court wrote, “ ‘[w]hether a class is “ascertainable”
    within the meaning of [Code of Civil Procedure section] 382 is determined by examining
    (1) the class definition, (2) the size of the class, and (3) the means available for
    identifying the class members[,]’ ” citing, among other authorities, Reyes v. Board of
    Supervisors (1987) 
    196 Cal.App.3d 1263
    , 1271 (Reyes). It likewise wrote, “[a] precise,
    objective and presently ascertainable class definition is required. [Citation.] The
    definition should define the class in terms of objective characteristics and common
    transactional facts to enable identification of the class members.”
    The trial court stated, “under [p]laintiffs’ definitions, it appears easy for a putative
    class member to easily identify from the definition whether he or she falls into one of the
    defined subclass[es] and what the [sub]classes seek to address (i.e., missed meal/rest
    periods), but the [overarching] ‘class’ only identifies putative class members and not
    what they seek to address—so it cannot be ascertained, if all the subclasses were not
    certified, what exactly the [overarching] ‘class’ seeks to address. However, [DMW]
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    raises no objection to the class/subclass definitions so it could be said that the
    class/subclasses[10 ] are sufficiently defined.”
    The trial court acknowledged plaintiffs’ contentions the overarching class “ ‘is
    ascertainable from [DMW’s] timekeeping and pay records’ ” and “ ‘[t]here are at least
    155 members of the class, and the class is sufficiently numerous,’ ” but found plaintiffs
    did not cite to evidence to support the contentions. Referencing plaintiffs’ counsel’s
    declaration which stated “[i]n or around March, 2016, Simpluris Inc., the third party
    administrator selected by the parties to administer the Belaire process, sent notices to the
    155 class members on the class list Defendant provided Simpluris,” the court determined
    plaintiffs “did not provide that list as evidence (or any other basis on which the Court can
    ascertain the number of the class/subclasses) to support the number . . . or how [it] was
    ascertained or whether [DMW] agrees this is the number in the class. Nor does the
    [m]otion indicate what that number represents—the entire class? Some subclass? Or
    some other combination?” The court presumed DMW did not dispute the class size since
    it did not address the issues in opposition to plaintiffs’ motion but, nevertheless, found
    plaintiffs did not meet their burden of establishing class size.
    Plaintiffs argue they “defined the class as ‘all current and former California-based
    hourly-paid or non-exempt field employees who worked for [DMW] at any time during
    the period from May 14, 2011 to class certification’ ” and it is unnecessary for them to
    identify “what the class members seek to address.” They argue “[t]he proper place to
    decipher the relationship between the defined class and the legal claims they seek to
    address is not at the pre-certification stage but rather, through the class certification order
    and notice to the class,” citing Hicks v. Kaufman & Broad Home Corp. (2001) 
    89 Cal.App.4th 908
    , 915 (Hicks) and Cohen v. DIRECTV, Inc. (2009) 
    178 Cal.App.4th 966
    ,
    10 Given the trial court’s determination the overarching class is not ascertainable,
    we interpret the court’s use of the term “class/subclass” as referring only to subclasses.
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    975 (Cohen). Plaintiffs contend the class description sets forth common characteristics
    (i.e., “hourly paid or non-exempt [employees] who worked from May 14, 2011 through
    class certification”), a means of readily identifying class members (i.e., DMW’s
    “timekeeping and pay records”), and allows individuals to self-identify with the class.
    In support of the subject order, DMW argues that the trial court used the correct
    legal standards, i.e., those set forth in Reyes and Noel v. Thrifty Payless, Inc. (2019) 
    7 Cal.5th 955
     (Noel); that “neither Hicks nor Noel overturned Reyes or removed
    [p]laintiffs’ burden to establish the size of the class”; and that the court correctly required
    plaintiffs to “submit some admissible evidence regarding the number of class members.”
    We conclude plaintiffs have the better argument.
    In Hicks, the plaintiffs were purchasers of a home built by the defendants. The
    plaintiffs alleged the defendants used improper construction materials (i.e., Fibermesh)
    resulting in “ ‘inherently defective’ ” “concrete slab foundations.” (Hicks, supra, 89
    Cal.App.4th at p. 912.) The plaintiffs brought a class action lawsuit under several
    theories and defined the class as “ ‘All persons or entities who own one or more homes
    [in specified . . . developments] which were constructed and marketed by [the defendants]
    in which “Fibermesh” . . . was utilized in the concrete foundation slabs as a substitute for
    . . . welded wire mesh with manifested damage or defect due to the . . . substitution.’ ”
    (Ibid.) The court denied class certification based, in part, on its determination the class
    was not ascertainable. (Id. at p. 913.)
    The appellate court determined the trial court erred by concluding “ ‘class
    membership . . . [cannot] be ascertained without an individualized analysis of each
    putative class member’s concrete slabs [because] manifest damage to a slab must exist as
    a precondition for class membership.’ ” (Hicks, supra, 89 Cal.App.4th at p. 914.) The
    appellate court noted “[a]scertainability is required in order to give notice to putative
    class members as to whom the judgment in the action will be res judicata,” and
    determined “[m]anifest damage to a slab is not a ‘precondition’ for class membership. It
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    is, if anything, an element in the proof of [the defendant’s] liability and relates to the
    existence of common questions of law and fact, not ascertainability of the class.” (Ibid.,
    fns. omitted.)
    To illustrate the point, the Hicks court pointed to the holding in Block v. Major
    League Baseball.11 (Hicks, supra, 89 Cal.App.4th at pp. 914–915.) In Block, the
    plaintiffs were major league baseball players who brought a class action lawsuit alleging
    the defendants unlawfully used “their names, voices, signatures and photographs in
    various commercial products without consent or compensation.” (Hicks, at p. 914, citing
    Block, supra, 65 Cal.App.4th at p. 541.) “The class was defined as ‘ “all major league
    baseball players who played major league baseball before 1947, or, if they are now
    deceased, their heirs or beneficiaries.” ’ ” (Hicks, at pp. 914–915, quoting Block, at
    p. 541.) The Block court held the class was ascertainable (“ ‘i.e., approximately 800 men
    (or their heirs and beneficiaries) who played major league baseball prior to 1947’ ” but
    denied certification due to the predominance of individualized issues of law or fact.
    (Hicks, at p. 915, citing Block, at p. 545.) Thus, Block “found the class ascertainable
    even though it was not defined as former major league players whose voices, likenesses,
    etc., [the] defendants used without their ‘consent or compensation.’ ” (Hicks, at p. 915,
    italics omitted.) “[T]he [Block] court properly treated the lack of consent or
    compensation as an ultimate fact each class member would have to prove to establish
    liability.” (Ibid.)
    Hicks explained “ascertainability can be better achieved by defining the class in
    terms of objective characteristics and common transactional facts making the ultimate
    identification of class members possible when that identification becomes necessary. The
    class certification order and notice to the class are the proper places to explain the
    11   Block v. Major League Baseball (1998) 
    65 Cal.App.4th 538
     (Block).
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    relationship between the defined class and the legal claims being made in the case.”
    (Hicks, supra, 89 Cal.App.4th at p. 915.)
    In Cohen, the plaintiffs filed a class action lawsuit alleging the defendant
    fraudulently induced customers to enter into subscription packages based on a false
    promise to provide a specific high resolution picture to subscribers. (Cohen, supra, 178
    Cal.App.4th at pp. 969–970.) The plaintiffs sought to “certify a class defined as follows:
    ‘Residents of the United States of America who subscribed to [the defendant’s] High
    Definition Programming Package.’ ” (Id. at p. 970.) The trial court found the definition
    too broad in that it would include subscribers who had not relied on the alleged
    fraudulent misrepresentations. (Id. at pp. 971-972.) Although the appellate court ended
    up affirming the trial court’s order denying class certification, the appellate court
    concluded the class definition was “precise, with objective characteristics and
    transactional parameters, and can be determined by [the defendant’s] own account
    records. No more is needed.” (Id. at p. 976.)
    In Noel, our high court examined past court opinions that addressed the issue of
    class ascertainability and the various views of Courts of Appeal on the subject. (Noel,
    
    supra,
     7 Cal.5th at pp. 969–979.) Having considered the various approaches taken, the
    high court concluded “objectives of [the ascertainability] requirement are best achieved
    by regarding a class as ascertainable when it is defined ‘in terms of objective
    characteristics and common transactional facts’ that make ‘the ultimate identification of
    class members possible when that identification becomes necessary.’ [Citation.] We
    regard this standard as including class definitions that are ‘sufficient to allow a member
    of [the class] to identify himself or herself as having a right to recover based on the
    [class] description.’ ” (Id. at p. 980.)
    The Noel court did mention Reyes as one of several cases in which the courts
    provided for a more “exacting inquiry” of ascertainability—i.e., the one used by the trial
    court here—“calling for an examination into ‘(1) the class definition, (2) the size of the
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    class and (3) the means of identifying class members.” (Noel, supra, 7 Cal.5th at p. 974.)
    The Noel court wrote, “insofar as the three-factor approach . . . could be read to demand a
    more exacting inquiry than the approach we endorse today, we disapprove of it . . . .” (Id.
    at p. 986, fn. 15.)
    Here, the trial court required a more exacting inquiry than proscribed in Noel. The
    class designation of “all current and former California-based hourly-paid or non-exempt
    field employees who worked for [DMW] at any time during the period from May 14,
    2011 to class certification” is sufficient to define the class. It is based on objective
    characteristics and common transactional facts and will allow the subsequent
    identification of class members based upon DMW’s payroll and other business records.
    Similarly, each of the subclasses is ascertainable under the appropriate inquiry set forth in
    Noel. For purposes of ascertainability, it was unnecessary for plaintiffs to state what the
    class seeks to address. “The class certification order and notice to the class are the proper
    places to explain the relationship between the defined class and the legal claims being
    made in the case.” (Hicks, supra, 89 Cal.App.4th at p. 915.)
    V.     THE OVERARCHING CLASS AND SUBCLASSES ARE SUFFICIENTLY NUMEROUS
    “ ‘The ultimate issue in evaluating [the numerosity] factor is whether the class is
    too large to make joinder practicable . . . .’ ” (Hendershot v. Ready to Roll
    Transportation, Inc. (2014) 
    228 Cal.App.4th 1213
    , 1222.) Class sizes as few as 10, 28,
    and 42, have been upheld. (Rose v. City of Hayward (1981) 
    126 Cal.App.3d 926
    , 934,
    disapproved on unrelated grounds in Noel, 
    supra,
     7 Cal.5th at p. 986, fn. 15.)
    Here, plaintiffs contend the class size consists of “ ‘at least 155 members . . . and
    . . . is sufficiently numerous.’ ” The trial court determined plaintiffs’ counsel’s statement
    that “ ‘[i]n or around March, 2016, Simpluris Inc., the third party administrator selected
    by the parties to administer the Belaire process, sent notices to the 155 class members on
    the class list [DMW] provided Simpluris” is insufficient to support the contention. In the
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    absence of other evidence, we might be inclined to agree with the court. However, we
    believe the evidence is sufficient to support the numerosity requirement.
    The Belaire process derives from Belaire, supra, 
    149 Cal.App.4th 554
    . In Belaire,
    “the trial court granted a motion to compel [the defendant employer] to provide the
    names and contact information of all current and former . . . employees [of the defendant]
    and adopted a proposed notice to those individuals that would have required them to
    object in writing in order to prevent information about them from being disclosed to the
    real parties in interest.” (Id. at p. 556.) As described in one practice guide, “[t]he named
    plaintiff may seek precertification discovery to identify and obtain contact information
    . . . for members of the putative class . . . . Such information is generally discoverable,
    subject to privacy protections for the putative class members [citation].” (Edmon and
    Karnow, Cal. Practice Guide: Civil Procedure Before Trial (The Rutter Group 2022)
    § 14:135.3, italics omitted.) The process is described as facilitating communication
    between the lead plaintiff and class members “who might assist in prosecuting the case.”
    (Pioneer Electronics (USA), Inc. v. Superior Court (2007) 
    40 Cal.4th 360
    , 373.)
    Likewise, it can be used to identify individuals who might substitute in as a plaintiff in
    the event a named plaintiff is without standing to pursue the claim. (See CashCall, Inc. v.
    Superior Court (2008) 
    159 Cal.App.4th 273
    , 290.)
    A trial court is authorized to “consider the totality of the evidence in determining
    whether the plaintiffs have presented evidence sufficient to establish the requirements for
    class certification.” (Jones, supra, 221 Cal.App.4th at p. 998.) Here, Miller averred
    “DMW is primarily an oilfield welding services operation.” “At any given time DMW
    has 12 to 15 field employees.” During the period between 2011 and 2016, “DMW
    employed a total of about 200 people due to high rates of turnover, which is caused by
    the nature of the work and the varying industry demand for DMW’s services.” “Most of
    these employees work in two-man teams consisting of a welder and a welder’s helper”
    but there are “numerous other types of field employees.” This is evidence that the
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    overarching class is sufficiently numerous. Moreover, we understand plaintiffs’ theory to
    be that all DMW field employees within the defined class are likewise within each of the
    defined subclasses. Thus, in terms of numerosity, there appears to be complete identity
    between the overarching class and the subclasses.
    Given the nature of the Belaire process and Miller’s own admissions, we conclude
    the trial courts determination the evidence is insufficient to establish class size is not
    supported by substantial evidence.
    VI.    COMMON QUESTIONS OF LAW AND FACT PREDOMINATE WITH REGARD TO
    THE R EST AND MEAL BREAK C LAIMS AND STEEL -TOE BOOT R EIMBURSEMENT
    CLAIMS
    “The party seeking certification has the burden to establish the existence of both
    an ascertainable class and a well-defined community of interest among class members.
    [Citations.] The ‘community of interest’ requirement embodies three factors:
    (1) predominant common questions of law or fact; (2) class representatives with claims or
    defenses typical of the class; and (3) class representatives who can adequately represent
    the class.” (Sav-On, 
    supra,
     34 Cal.4th at p. 326.)
    “To establish these factors, the party seeking certification must show ‘that
    questions of law or fact common to the class predominate over the questions affecting the
    individual members . . . . [Citation.] In essence, this means “each member must not be
    required to individually litigate numerous and substantial questions to determine his [or
    her] right to recover following the class judgment; and the issues which may be jointly
    tried, when compared with those requiring separate adjudication, must be sufficiently
    numerous and substantial to make the class action advantageous to the judicial process
    and to the litigants.” ’ ” (Soderstedt v. CBIZ Southern California, LLC (2011) 
    197 Cal.App.4th 133
    , 143, quoting Washington Mutual Bank v. Superior Court (2001) 
    24 Cal.4th 906
    , 913–914.)
    “As the focus in a certification dispute is on what type of questions—common or
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    individual—are likely to arise in the action, rather than on the merits of the case
    [citations], in determining whether there is substantial evidence to support a trial court’s
    certification order, we consider whether the theory of recovery advanced by the
    proponents of certification is, as an analytical matter, likely to prove amenable to class
    treatment.” (Sav-On, supra, 34 Cal.4th at p. 327.)
    “That calculation of individual damages may at some point be required does not
    foreclose the possibility of taking common evidence . . . .” (Sav-On, 
    supra,
     34 Cal.4th at
    p. 332.) “ ‘[A] class action is not inappropriate simply because each member of the class
    may at some point be required to make an individual showing as to his or her eligibility
    for recovery or as to the amount of his or her damages.’ ” (Id. at p. 333.) Denial of class
    certification has been upheld on grounds “there was no common method to prove the fact
    of liability on a classwide basis” to support class certification. (ABM Industries Overtime
    Cases (2017) 
    19 Cal.App.5th 277
    , 308 (ABM).) “[O]ther cases have held that
    individualized issues regarding proof of the amount of damages . . . does not defeat a
    class action so long as there are common questions of liability amenable to class
    resolution. [Citations.]” (ABM, at pp. 308–309, citing Faulkinbury v. Boyd &
    Associates, Inc. (2013) 
    216 Cal.App.4th 220
    , 232-240, disapproved on unrelated grounds
    in Noel, 
    supra,
     7 Cal.5th at p. 986, fn. 15; Jones, supra, 221 Cal.App.4th at p. 997;
    Benton, supra, 220 Cal.App.4th at p. 726.) “The common theme in these cases is that the
    plaintiff’s theory of liability could be determined based on common uniform policies
    applicable to the class as a whole.” (ABM, at p. 309.)
    A.     Unlike the Subclasses, the Overarching Class, as Defined, Did Not
    Reference Any Alleged Violation or Wrongdoing on the Part of DMW
    and, Consequently, Did Not Lend Itself to Analysis of Whether Common
    Issues of Law or Fact Predominated
    Plaintiffs contend “the trial court entirely failed to analyze whether there existed a
    well-defined community of interest as to the [overarching] class, instead conflating the
    ‘class’ definition’s ascertainability analysis with the community of interest analysis for
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    the subclasses,” and “this Court must remand to the trial court to retrieve the trial court’s
    basis for denials as to the ‘class.’ ” The conflation referenced by plaintiffs seemingly
    relates to the fact the court’s ascertainability determination for the overarching class was
    premised, in part, on the lack of an identification of what the class members seek to
    address. Although that consideration was unnecessary in analyzing ascertainability, it
    was necessary to determine whether a well-defined community of interest existed.
    The trial court’s comment that “the [overarching] ‘class’ only identifies putative
    class members and not what they seek to address” highlights the fact that the overarching
    class, by all appearances, is merely a conglomeration of the subclasses. There is no
    separate cause of action applicable to the overarching class that does not implicate, in
    some way, one of the causes of action asserted on behalf of the subclasses. Thus, the
    only way to determine whether there are predominate common questions of law or fact,
    whether the class representatives have claims or defenses typical of the overarching class,
    and whether the plaintiffs can adequately represent the overarching class is by conducting
    the analysis with respect to each subclass.
    B.     Common Questions of Law and Fact Predominate with Regard to
    Liability Under the Rest Break Claims
    The trial court noted DMW’s 2011 handbook provided “ ‘[w]hen working
    conditions permit, and pending a supervisor’s approval, employees are entitled to one 10
    minute break for every 4 hours worked’ ” and the 2014 handbook “also provides for meal
    and rest periods.” It further noted that Miller “testified that 60-minute meal periods are
    only for office employees, not employees working out in the field at worksite locations”
    and that “there was no meal break policy applicable to employees working in the field
    from 2011 to 2014 that authorized and permitted employees to take 30-minute off-duty
    meal breaks during their shift when working in the field.”
    The trial court noted plaintiffs’ declarants “indicate that [they] were never allowed
    a meal/break period because ‘when they were out in the field because the nature of the
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    work did not allow them to take off-premises, duty[-]free, uninterrupted 30-minute meal
    breaks,’ ” but determined “[DMW] only had to allow duty[-]free/uninterrupted meal
    breaks; [and] that employees could not go off premises due to the location of the work
    site [was] not a requirement for [DMW].” The court characterized the process described
    by plaintiffs’ declarants as follows: “they went out, welded and had to babysit the weld
    to ensure it cooled properly, so could not take any breaks which would ‘leave [sic] to
    wastefulness’ and client dissatisfaction and unless there was downtime no breaks were
    taken.”
    The trial court noted DMW’s position that “there is no requirement for a written
    meal break policy and that employees had the ability to schedule their breaks” as averred
    by DMW’s declarants and that DMW’s “declarants all state there was plenty of time to
    take rest and meal breaks and they were never denied any request to take any break.”
    Based on the above, the trial court determined “the break issues are not susceptible
    of common proof for all members of the proposed and the class members would be
    required to litigate numerous and substantial questions determining their individual right
    to recover following a class judgment on common issues . . . .” According to the court,
    those individual issues “requires questioning of . . . class member[s] as to dates they
    claim they were not provided with breaks, if they were specifically denied breaks,
    number of hours each worked, who was on their teams, what the other team members say
    with respect to breaks, where they were in the field, i.e.[,] were they accessible to going
    ‘off premises’ within the allot[t]ed break period, or if they were denied leaving the
    premises for breaks, did they ask for any meal/rest breaks.” The court found plaintiffs
    provided no evidence of a “uniform policy that [DMW] denied any meal/rest breaks.”
    Plaintiffs claim it was error for the trial court to analyze the rest and meal break
    subclasses together but cite no authority for the proposition. “ ‘When an appellant . . .
    asserts [a point] but fails to support it with reasoned argument and citations to authority,
    we treat the point as waived.’ ” (In re A.C. (2017) 
    13 Cal.App.5th 661
    , 672.)
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    Plaintiffs further contend the trial court’s determination that they “failed to
    provide any evidence of a uniform policy that [DMW] denied rest breaks” is not
    supported by substantial evidence—citing the 2011 handbook’s provision that “ ‘[w]hen
    working conditions permit, and pending a supervisor’s approval, employees are entitled
    to one 10 minute break for every 4 hours worked.’ ” We agree.
    In Brinker Restaurant Corp. v. Superior Court (2012) 
    53 Cal.4th 1004
     (Brinker),
    the defendant employer had a written policy that “employees receive one 10-minute rest
    break per four hours worked . . . .” (Id. at p. 1033.) The court stated, “[c]lasswide
    liability could be established through common proof if [the plaintiff] were able to
    demonstrate that, for example, [the defendant employer] under this uniform policy
    refused to authorize and permit a second rest break for employees working shifts longer
    than six, but shorter than eight, hours.” (Ibid.)
    DMW argues Brinker does not aid plaintiffs because Brinker ruled certification
    should follow “if [the] plaintiff could show a uniform policy to deny second rest breaks
    on shifts between six and eight hours long” but here “the trial court concluded that there
    was no uniform corporate policy to deny rest breaks and that common issues did not
    predominate”—a determination, DMW argues, is supported by substantial evidence.
    DMW further argues that the existence of contrary evidence is not a legitimate ground on
    which to overturn the trial court’s decision.
    As mentioned above, “[t]he certification question is ‘essentially a procedural one
    that does not ask whether an action is legally or factually meritorious.’ ” (Sav-On, 
    supra,
    34 Cal.4th at p. 326.) “As the focus in a certification dispute is on what type of
    questions—common or individual—are likely to arise in the action, rather than on the
    merits of the case [citations], in determining whether there is substantial evidence to
    support a trial court’s certification order, we consider whether the theory of recovery
    advanced by the proponents of certification is, as an analytical matter, likely to prove
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    amenable to class treatment.” (Id. at p. 327.) The trial court did not adhere to this
    principal in its subject order. Rather, it decided the issue on the merits.
    “State law obligates employers to afford their nonexempt employees meal periods
    and rest periods during the workday.” (Brinker, 
    supra,
     53 Cal.4th at p. 1018; see
    §§ 226.7; 512; Cal. Code Regs., tit. 8, § 11160 [Industrial Welfare Commission (IWC)
    Wage Order No. 16-2001 (hereinafter, Wage Order 16)].) In Brinker, the plaintiffs
    alleged the defendant employer failed to provide its employees with rest breaks, meal
    breaks, or “premium wages in lieu of meal breaks, required by law” (Brinker, at p. 1018),
    “required [its] employees to work off-the-clock during meal periods and engaged in time
    shaving, [i.e.,] unlawfully altering employee time records to misreport the amount of time
    worked and break time taken.” (Id. at p. 1019.) The trial court found a predominance of
    common issues compared to individual issues and granted class certification. (Id. at
    p. 1020.) The Court of Appeal reversed as to the three subclasses and the California
    Supreme Court granted review. (Id. at p. 1017.)
    The high court noted a trial court “must determine whether the elements necessary
    to establish liability are susceptible of common proof or, if not, whether there are ways to
    manage effectively proof of any elements that may require individualized evidence.”
    (Brinker, 
    supra,
     53 Cal.4th at p. 1024.) “[A] trial court must examine the . . . theory of
    recovery, assess the nature of the legal and factual disputes likely to be presented, and
    decide whether individual or common issues predominate.” (Id. at p. 1025.)
    The high court also considered the applicable wage order which read: “ ‘Every
    employer shall authorize and permit all employees to take rest periods, which insofar as
    practicable shall be in the middle of each work period. The authorized rest period time
    shall be based on the total hours worked daily at the rate of ten (10) minutes net rest time
    per four (4) hours or major fraction thereof. However, a rest period need not be
    authorized for employees whose total daily work time is less than three and one-half (3½)
    hours.’ ” (Brinker, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1028.) It summarized the effect of the wage
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    order as follows: “Employees are entitled to 10 minutes’ rest for shifts from three and
    one-half to six hours in length, 20 minutes for shifts of more than six hours up to 10
    hours, 30 minutes for shifts of more than 10 hours up to 14 hours, and so on.” (Id. at
    p. 1029.)
    The court then considered the allegations of the complaint and focused on “the
    theory that [the defendant employer] adopted a uniform corporate rest break policy that
    violates [the applicable wage order] because it fails to give full effect to the ‘major
    fraction’ language of [the wage order].” (Brinker, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1032.) Similar
    to the case at bar, the written policy allowed employees “one 10-minute rest break per
    four hours worked”: “ ‘If I work over 3.5 hours during my shift, I understand that I am
    eligible for one ten minute rest break for each four hours that I work.’ ” (Id. at p. 1033.)
    The court concluded “[c]lasswide liability could be established through common proof if
    [the plaintiff] were able to demonstrate that, for example, [the defendant employer] under
    this uniform policy refused to authorize and permit a second rest break for employees
    working shifts longer than six, but shorter than eight, hours. Claims alleging that a
    uniform policy consistently applied to a group of employees is in violation of the wage
    and hour laws are of the sort routinely, and properly, found suitable for class treatment.”
    (Ibid.)
    The court noted, “[a]n employer is required to authorize and permit the amount of
    rest break time called for under the wage order for its industry. If it d oes not—if, for
    example, it adopts a uniform policy authorizing and permitting only one rest break for
    employees working a seven-hour shift when two are required—it has violated the wage
    order and is liable.” (Brinker, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1033.) It determined the plaintiff
    had submitted “substantial evidence of a uniform rest break policy authorizing breaks
    only for each full four hours worked” and that the trial court’s certification decision
    should not have been disturbed. (Ibid.) In closing, the Brinker court stated, “[t]he theory
    of liability—that [the defendant employer] has a uniform policy, and that that policy,
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    measured against wage order requirements, allegedly violates the law—is by its nature a
    common question eminently suited for class treatment.” (Ibid.)
    Here, Wage Order 16 is similar to that discussed in Brinker. It provides, in
    relevant part:
    “(A) Every employer shall authorize and permit all employees to
    take rest periods, which insofar as practicable, shall be in the middle of
    each work period. Nothing in this provision shall prevent an employer
    from staggering rest periods to avoid interruption in the flow of work and to
    maintain continuous operations, or from scheduling rest periods to coincide
    with breaks in the flow of work that occur in the course of the workday.
    The authorized rest period time shall be based on the total hours worked
    daily at the rate of ten (10) minutes net rest time for every four (4) hours
    worked, or major fraction thereof. . . .
    “(B) Rest periods need not be authorized in limited circumstances
    . . . . However, the employer shall make-up the missed rest period within
    the same work day or compensate the employee for the missed ten (10)
    minutes of rest time at his or her regular rate of pay within the same pay
    period. [¶] . . . [¶]
    “(D) If an employer fails to provide an employee a rest period in
    accordance with the applicable provisions of this Order, the employer shall
    pay the employee one (1) hour of pay at the employee’s regular rate of
    compensation for each work day that the rest period was not provided. In
    cases where a valid collective bargaining agreement provides final and
    binding mechanism for resolving disputes regarding enforcement of the rest
    period provisions, the collective bargaining agreement will prevail.” (Cal.
    Code Regs., tit. 8, § 11160, subd. 11(A), (B), (D), italics added.)
    Wage Order 16 contains the same “major fraction thereof” language at issue in
    Brinker and DMW’s policy is quite similar to that in Brinker. DMW’s 2011 handbook
    provides, “When working conditions permit, and pending a supervisor’s approval,
    employees are entitled to one 10 minute break for every 4 hours worked [,]” but does not
    include the “major fraction thereof” language. The existence of the policy, its
    implementation, and its legality are all matters subject to common proof.
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    DMW’s written policy for rest breaks for nonexempt employees did change in or
    about 2014 to comport with the law. The 2014 handbook reads, in relevant part: “[y]ou
    are entitled to one (1) 10-minute rest break for every four (4) hours you work (or major
    fraction thereof, which is defined as greater than (2) hours). If you work more than six
    (6) hours and up to 10 hours in a workday, you will receive one (1) rest break during the
    first half of your shift and one (1) rest break during the second half of your shift. If you
    work more than 10 hours and up to 14 hours, you will be entitled to an additional paid
    10-minute rest break.”
    However, the tenor of plaintiffs’ proffered declarations is that, notwithstanding
    any written policy, DMW, as a matter of practice, routinely denied its employees such
    breaks. According to plaintiffs’ declarants, the workload was such that time for breaks
    was largely nonexistent; downtime only occurred between jobs or if upon arrival, the
    jobsite was not ready for the field employees to begin their work; breaks were not
    possible once the welding process was underway and the welds and surrounding areas
    needed to be constantly monitored. Moreover, plaintiffs’ declarants say DMW pressured
    its employees to “finish the day’s work as quickly and efficiently as possible” to enable
    them to move to the next jobsite and to avoid excessive billing to their clients.
    In Brinker, the court stated, “an employer may not undermine a formal policy of
    providing meal breaks by pressuring employees to perform their duties in ways that omit
    breaks. (Cicairos v. Summit Logistics, Inc. (2005) 
    133 Cal.App.4th 949
    , 962–963 [
    35 Cal.Rptr.3d 243
    ]; see also Jaimez v. Daiohs USA, Inc. [2010] 181 Cal.App.4th [1286,]
    1304–1305 [proof of common scheduling policy that made taking breaks extremely
    difficult would show violation]; Dilts v. Penske Logistics, LLC (S.D.Cal. 2010) 
    267 F.R.D. 625
    , 638 [indicating informal anti-meal-break policy ‘enforced through “ridicule”
    or “reprimand” ’ would be illegal].) The wage orders and governing statute do not
    countenance an employer’s exerting coercion against the taking of, creating incentives to
    forgo, or otherwise encouraging the skipping of legally protected breaks.” (Brinker,
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    supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1040.) We see no reason why a similar routine practice by an
    employer, if true, would not violate rest-break requirements.
    Whether there was a companywide practice of undermining the employee rest-
    break policy contained in the 2014 handbook is a matter of common proof. Moreover,
    defenses to that theory of liability would likewise be subject to common proof.
    The trial court focused on individualized issues related to proof of damages.
    Evidence that “goes to individual issues concerning the right to recover damages . . . do
    not preclude class certification.” (Jones, supra, 221 Cal.App.4th at p. 996.) “[T]he fact
    that individual inquiry might be necessary to determine whether individual employees
    were able to take breaks despite the defendant’s allegedly unlawful policy (or unlawful
    lack of a policy) is not a proper basis for denying certification.” (Benton, supra, 220
    Cal.App.4th at p. 726.)
    As discussed in section VII. below, individualized issues related to proof of
    damages and liability are relevant considerations for class certification. We conclude
    they are particularly relevant to the question of manageability. On remand, the trial court
    will need to analyze and determine whether such issues are manageable.12 As mentioned
    in the preface, we are not directing the court to order class certification. The court may
    decide the class certification issue in its discretion upon completing an analysis of class
    certification issues consistent with this opinion.
    We conclude there is a predominance of common questions of law and fact with
    respect to liability under plaintiffs’ rest break claims.
    12  The court’s manageability analysis is not necessarily limited to individualized
    issues related to proof of damages. Our determination that common issues of law and
    fact predominate as to proof of liability does not preclude the possibility that some
    individualized issues related to proof of liability may remain.
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    C.     Common Questions of Law and Fact Predominate with Regard to
    Liability Under the Meal Break Claims
    The governing complaint alleges “as a pattern and practice,” DMW “would
    regularly require . . . employees to work shifts exceeding 10 hours and did not provide
    [them] with meal periods” as required by law and “did not provide proper compensation
    for this failure”; employees “regularly did not receive uninterrupted meal and rest
    periods”; and DMW instructed its employees “to record that they took meal and rest
    periods, even if they did not take uninterrupted meal and rest periods.” It alleges
    employees “would regularly be rushed, pressed to cut-short or interrupted and were not
    paid the proper meal and rest break premiums,” and DMW’s “payroll system failed to
    implement a system to compensate a premium pay.”
    Plaintiffs’ declarants generally averred they were not permitted to take
    uninterrupted, off-duty breaks and instead were instructed by DMW dispatch to “eat
    something along the way to the next job site or if downtime allowed”; they were not
    allowed to leave the jobsite during such breaks because they “had to be present and ready
    to immediately resume work when welding was required”; they were not allowed to leave
    the site “unless the client’s company man on-site specifically authorized it”; were never
    provided a second off-duty meal break when working shifts greater than 10 hours; and
    were never paid wage premiums for meal breaks that were denied. Plaintiffs’ declarants
    indicated “[a]ll members of the crew . . . were required to write down 30-minute
    break[s]” whether taken or not.
    The trial court noted there was “no meal break policy applicable to employees
    working in the field from 2011 to 2014 that authorized and permitted employees to take
    30-minute off-duty meal breaks” per Miller’s testimony. As with the rest break subclass,
    the court found that individual issues predominated requiring each class member to
    “litigate numerous and substantial questions determining their individual right to recover
    following a class judgment on common issues.” The court indicated the same types of
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    questions required for the rest break claims would also be required for the meal break
    claims.
    Plaintiffs did provide evidence of a uniform practice to deny DMW employees
    their right to meal breaks or wage premiums in lieu thereof. As stated in Brinker, “an
    employer may not undermine a formal policy of providing meal breaks by pressuring
    employees to perform their duties in ways that omit breaks.” (Brinker, supra, 53 Cal.4th
    at p. 1040.) We see no reason why an employer should be permitted to engage in the
    same conduct simply because the written policy in place was not applicable to field
    employees as stated by Miller in his deposition.
    Plaintiffs contend Bradley v. Networkers Internat., LLC (2012) 
    211 Cal.App.4th 1129
     (Bradley) is instructive. In Bradley, the plaintiffs “presented evidence that under
    [the defendant employers’] uniform practice, none of the workers was provided, or given
    authorization to take, the required meal or rest breaks.” (Id. at p. 1150.) The defendant
    employer “acknowledged it did not have a policy and did not know if the employees took
    meal or rest breaks. Five workers further submitted declarations confirming that they
    frequently did not take rest breaks because of the nature of the work and several believed
    they would be ‘fired’ if they stopped working to take a break. Likewise, these workers’
    declarations supported that they were not given the type of meal break required under the
    law—an uninterrupted 30 minutes during which they were free to use their time as they
    wished.” (Ibid.) The court held the plaintiffs’ theory that the defendant employer’s
    “(uniform) lack of a rest and meal break policy and its (uniform) failure to authorize
    employees to take statutorily required rest and meal breaks” are matters of common
    proof. (Ibid., italics omitted.)
    DMW argues Bradley does not support plaintiffs’ case for class certification
    because it was based on undisputed evidence. However, the Bradley court acknowledged
    “an employer could potentially defend these claims by arguing that it did have an
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    informal or unwritten meal or rest break policy” but stated “this defense is also a matter
    of common proof.” (Bradley, supra, 211 Cal.App.4th at p. 1150.)13
    As with the rest break claims, the trial court chose to focus on individualized
    issues pertaining to the right to recover damages. However, whether or not such a policy
    or practice existed and its legality are subject to common proof. Evidence that “goes to
    individual issues concerning the right to recover damages . . . do not preclude class
    certification.” (Jones, supra, 221 Cal.App.4th at p. 996.) “[T]he fact that individual
    inquiry might be necessary to determine whether individual employees were able to take
    breaks despite the defendant’s allegedly unlawful policy (or unlawful lack of a policy) is
    not a proper basis for denying certification.” (Benton, supra, 220 Cal.App.4th at p. 726.)
    Again, individualized issues related to proof of damages and liability are relevant
    considerations for class certification. They are especially relevant to the question of
    manageability. (See section VII. below.) On remand, the trial court will need to analyze
    and determine whether such issues are manageable and may decide the class certification
    issue in its discretion upon completing an analysis of class certification issues consistent
    with this opinion.14
    We conclude there is a predominance of common questions of law and fact with
    respect to liability under plaintiffs’ meal break claims.
    13 Relatedly, DMW argues Bradley “made clear that its decision was
    distinguishable from cases in which ‘the denial of class certification on meal/rest break
    claims’ was based on conflicting evidence.” (See Bradley, supra, 211 Cal.App.4th at
    p. 1154.) Yet, the single case Bradley cites to as representative of such cases was ordered
    depublished.
    14   See footnote 12, ante.
    45.
    D.     Common Questions of Law and Fact Do Not Predominate with Regard to
    Liability Under Overtime and Minimum Wage Claims
    1.     Common Questions of Law and Fact Do Not Predominate with
    Regard to Liability Under Plaintiffs’ On-call Allegations
    In their governing complaint, plaintiffs allege DMW “as a corporate policy and
    practice, required its employees to remain ‘on-call’ with a restrictive response time,
    which required [its employees] to remain within a short distance from [DMW’s] yard”;
    and that DMW would “threaten [its employees] if they were unable to report for work
    within one (1) hour of receiving a call . . . .”
    The trial court noted plaintiffs’ declarants averred they were “on call 24/7 even
    when they were not scheduled to work and must respond to work calls within 30-60
    minutes when called to work or they would be reprimanded and ‘starved out of work’
    from then on.” The court remarked that plaintiffs essentially “assert that they were never
    not working and were unable to do any personal tasks such as travel or going out to
    dinner. Other than these declarations, [p]laintiffs provide no evidence that they were
    always on call and must respond within 30-60 minutes or they would be ‘starved out of
    work.’ ” The court further noted DMW’s declarants stated they “were not on-call 24/7,
    but were on call on their scheduled work days and they would have to respond within the
    30-60 minute time frame, but if they failed to respond, no action was taken against them.”
    The trial court ruled “the overtime issues are not susceptible of common proof”
    and found individualized issues would predominate—i.e., “[the] dates [the employees]
    claim they were on call 24/7, why they thought that, when they failed to answer calls, and
    what actions were taken against them as to each time they failed to answer calls.” The
    court determined plaintiffs “failed to provide evidence of a uniform policy that [DMW]
    required all field employees to be on call 24/7 even when they were not scheduled for
    work.”
    46.
    As noted in Brinker, “ ‘issues affecting the merits of a case may be enmeshed with
    class action requirements . . . .’ ” (Brinker, supra, 53 Cal.4th at p. 1023.) “When
    evidence or legal issues germane to the certification question bear as well on aspects of
    the merits, a court may properly evaluate them.” (Id. at pp. 1023–1024.) The issue of
    on-call time presents such a situation.
    “On-call waiting time may be compensable if it is spent primarily for the benefit
    of the employer and its business. (Armour & Co. v. Wantock (1944) 
    323 U.S. 126
    , 132
    [
    89 L.Ed. 118
    , 
    65 S.Ct. 165
    ] [time firefighters spent on call in the onsite fire hall was
    compensable, even though they spent time in ‘idleness’ and ‘amusements’].) A
    determination of whether the on-call waiting time is spent predominantly for the
    employer’s benefit depends on two considerations: (1) the parties’ agreement, and (2) the
    degree to which the employee is free to engage in personal activities.” (Gomez v.
    Lincare, Inc. (2009) 
    173 Cal.App.4th 508
    , 523 (Gomez).)
    The Gomez court considered a “nonexclusive list of factors, none of which is
    dispositive, to determine whether [an] employee was free to engage in personal activities:
    ‘(1) whether there was an on-premises living requirement; (2) whether there were
    excessive geographical restrictions on employee’s movements; (3) whether the frequency
    of calls was unduly restrictive; (4) whether a fixed time limit for response was unduly
    restrictive; (5) whether the on-call employee could easily trade on-call responsibilities;
    (6) whether use of a pager could ease restrictions; and (7) whether the employee had
    actually engaged in personal activities during call-in time.” (Gomez, supra, 173
    Cal.App.4th at p. 523.) Such considerations support the trial court’s determination that
    individualized issues of law and fact predominate.
    Plaintiffs’ declarants have not provided evidence their off-duty time was “spent
    primarily for the benefit” of DMW or that they were not “free to engage in personal
    activities.” (Gomez, supra, 173 Cal.App.4th at p. 523.) Plaintiffs have not pointed to any
    provision in either the 2011 handbook or 2014 handbook that required them to be on-call.
    47.
    Although there is anecdotal evidence that some of the declarants were reprimanded when
    they “declined a call,” there is a lack of evidence there was a companywide policy or
    practice of reprimands. Moreover, the nature of those reprimands is relatively
    nonspecific. The employees indicated if they “declined calls” their hours would be cut
    and they would be “starved out of work.” However, a natural consequence of declining
    work is to endure a cut in hours and it is unclear what is meant by being “starved out of
    work” beyond not being able to accept a particular job. Moreover, the declarants’
    statements that others were eventually fired if they “continued to decline work” or “failed
    to respond” is speculative, not based on personal knowledge, and lacking in substantial
    evidentiary value.
    The trial court could have inferred from the statements of plaintiffs’ declarants,
    that plaintiffs were free to engage in their own personal activities notwithstanding any
    subjective feeling on their part that they could not do so; that the repercussions they
    suffered if they failed to respond or “declined a call” were they would not receive the
    jobs that were being solicited at the time; and that if hours were cut, it was a natural
    consequence of not accepting a given job.
    Plaintiffs’ reliance on Ghazaryan v. Diva Limousine, Ltd. (2008) 
    169 Cal.App.4th 1524
     (disapproved on unrelated grounds in Noel, 
    supra,
     7 Cal.5th at p. 986, fn. 15) does
    not aid them. In Ghazaryan, “[o]n any given day” the employer would “place[] between
    40 and 45 [limousine] drivers in the field, and those drivers [would be] dispatched on 140
    to 150 trips or runs.” (Id. at p. 1528.) Some days were slower and others were busier.
    (Ibid.) The drivers were given shifts and typically received their “first few assignments
    before their shift beg[an] in part to allow them to plan their gap time” (ibid.)—i.e., the
    time during their shift between assigned trips (id. at p. 1527). Thus, the on-call time
    under consideration in Ghazaryan was time in which the employee was on his or her
    shift, in possession of the employer’s limousine, and with the limousine on stand -by in
    48.
    between trips. The employee was not off-duty as in the case before us. There is little
    similarity between the facts of Ghazaryan and the instant case.
    Plaintiffs also cite to Prince v. CLS Transportation, Inc. (2004) 
    118 Cal.App.4th 1320
     in support of their argument. In Prince, the plaintiffs filed a class action complaint
    and the defendant demurred on grounds it was “ ‘not an appropriate class action,’
    contending there is no well-defined community of interest, and that a class action is not
    superior to other methods of adjudicating” the claims. The trial court sustained the
    demurrer without leave to amend. (Id. at p. 1322.) On appeal, the appellate court merely
    concluded that class suitability should not have been decided at the pleading stage.
    (Ibid.) Prince is inapposite and does not aid plaintiffs’ argument.
    Based on all the above, there is substantial evidence to support the trial court’s
    finding that a liability determination would predominantly involve individualized issues.
    2.      Common Questions of Law and Fact Do Not Predominate with
    Regard to Liability Under Plaintiffs’ Claims They Were Not
    Compensated for Work Performed Before and After Jobs
    The trial court noted plaintiffs’ declarants averred they “were not paid from the
    time they arrived at the yard or when they came back from the field” and that they were
    “told or pressured to fill out their time cards . . . to reflect specific times.” “[A]side from
    the declarations,” the court wrote, “[p]laintiffs provide no evidence that shows that there
    was any policy to not pay employees for the time from when they arrived at the yard to
    when they left [the] yard. The employee time records do not show any policy; it only
    shows the time each individual employee put down on their time card.” The court noted
    that DMW’s declarants contradict the claims made by plaintiffs’ declarants, that the
    former claimed they put the actual time worked on their timecards and were paid for that
    time, and that they were not pressured to report their time incorrectly.
    As a result, the trial court found “the failure[-]to[-]pay[-]for[-]all[-]hours[-]worked
    issue is not susceptible of common proof for all members of the proposed class and the
    49.
    class members would be required to litigate numerous and substantial questions
    determining their individual right to recover.” The court noted each class member would
    have to be questioned regarding “[the] dates they claim they were pressured or told to fill
    in their time cards a certain way, what hours they allege they actually worked, when they
    arrived at the yard and when they left” and that plaintiffs did not provide evidence other
    than “the declarations of a uniform policy” that they were not paid for all time worked.
    Plaintiffs argue merely that “[t]he trial court . . . improperly weighed [plaintiffs’]
    declarations against [DMW’s] declarations in making its incorrect determination that the
    minimum wage and overtime subclasses are not susceptible to common proof,” and that it
    “used improper criteria by weighing the merits of [plaintiffs’] claims with [DMW’s]
    defenses, in lieu of concluding that [DMW’s] defenses, namely class members being paid
    for all time worked, are susceptible to common proof.” We disagree.
    Although the trial court did note the difference between the statements of
    plaintiffs’ declarants and DMW’s declarants, the court did not rule on the merits of
    plaintiffs’ minimum wage and overtime claims. Rather, the court determined plaintiffs
    had not met their burden in demonstrating common proof issues predominated over
    individualized proof issues in deciding liability issues.
    Here, plaintiffs’ declarants noted “DMW’s dispatch and payroll instructed [they
    are] only compensated . . . from the time when dispatch instructed [them] to be at the
    DMW yard in Bakersfield.” Plaintiffs’ declarants interpreted this instruction in such a
    way that they only reported their time commencing when they “began travelling from the
    yard to the jobsite.” Although they contend they worked prior to traveling from the yard
    to the jobsite, the instructions they state they received actually authorized them to report
    this time on their timecards. That plaintiffs’ declarants did not report the time they
    worked consistent with DMW’s instructions does not constitute evidence of a policy or
    practice to deny them compensation for such time. Statements to the effect that they
    “w[ere] not allowed to record . . . all of the hours [they] worked” are conclusory and
    50.
    devoid of evidentiary substance. Similarly, the statement that “DMW limited the time
    [they] could put on the time cards based on what they were able to bill clients,” is
    conclusory and does not evidence that actual hours worked were less than what was
    billed to clients. Finally, the claim that, “due to DMW’s dispatch and payroll
    expectation[s],” additional work was performed does not provide any basis upon which
    plaintiffs’ declarants were able to discern said expectations. Based on this record, the
    trial court was entitled to infer that plaintiffs’ declarants relied on their own subjective
    and inconsistent interpretations of statements made by DMW (e.g., interpreting an
    instruction that compensable time begins when they arrive at DMW’s yard, as an
    instruction that compensable time begins when they leave the yard for a jobsite) and their
    own subjective belief of DMW’s expectations without an objective basis for arriving at
    that conclusion. Based on this record, we cannot conclude the court’s determination is
    unsupported by substantial evidence, or rested on improper criteria or erroneous legal
    assumptions.
    E.      Common Questions of Law and Fact Do Not Predominate with Regard to
    Liability Under Reimbursement Claims for Cell Phone Usage but Do
    Predominate with Regard to Liability Under Reimbursement Claims for
    Steel-toe Boots
    The trial court noted plaintiffs’ assertion “they were required to wear steel-toed
    boots but not provided with the boots and were required to answer dispatch calls on their
    personal cell phone while on-call, but were no[t] reimbursed for this use.” The trial court
    noted the only evidence in support of plaintiffs’ claims were the declarations submitted in
    support of the class certification motion. The court also noted plaintiffs did not provide
    portions of the 2014 handbook that pertained to cell phone/mobile device and dress
    policies. Relying on Townley v. BJ’s Restaurants, Inc. (2019) 
    37 Cal.App.5th 179
    (Townley), the court denied certification of the reimbursement class because “[p]laintiffs
    . . . have not argued that steel-toed boots were ‘part of a uniform’ or ‘were not usual and
    generally usable’ in the field welding occupation.” As for cell phone usage, the trial
    51.
    court noted plaintiffs’ failed to present “evidence that use of a personal cell phone was
    . . . mandatory for work,” citing Herrera v. Zumiez, Inc. (9th Cir. 2020) 
    953 F.3d 1063
    ,
    1078.
    As to cell phone usage, plaintiffs cite to Cochran v. Schwan’s Home Service, Inc.
    (2014) 
    228 Cal.App.4th 1137
    , 1144, 1145, for the proposition that “ ‘[i]f an employee is
    required to make work-related calls on a personal cell phone, then he or she is incurring
    an expense for purposes of section 2802[,]’ ”15 and “ ‘[t]o show liability under section
    2802, an employee need only show that he or she was required to use a personal cell
    phone to make work-related calls, and he or she was not reimbursed.’ ”
    Plaintiffs’ declarants did indicate they used their cell phone to send and receive
    work-related messages. However, they did not provide any evidence that their employer
    required them to use their cell phones for this purpose. Even assuming plaintiffs’
    declarants were entitled to reimbursement for such cell phone usage under section 2802,
    the evidence does not rise to the level of establishing a classwide common policy or
    practice.
    With regard to steel-toe boots, plaintiffs argue Townley is “inapposite as the matter
    involved a grant of a motion for summary judgment that was taken up on appeal,” and
    “inapposite as it related to non-slip shoes.” (See Townley, supra, 37 Cal.App.5th at
    pp. 180–181.) Plaintiffs point to the statement in Townley that “[the plaintiff] does not
    cite any authority holding that an employer is required, under section 2802, to reimburse
    an employee for basic, nonuniform wardrobe items, such as the slip-resistant shoes at
    issue in this case.” (Id. at p. 185.) Plaintiffs contend “steel-toe boots are not basic,
    nonuniform wardrobe items, unlike the slip-resistant shoes discussed in Townley,” citing
    15Section 2802 provides, in relevant part, “[a]n employer shall indemnify his or
    her employee for all necessary expenditures or losses incurred by the employee in direct
    consequence of the discharge of his or her duties, or of his or her obedience to the
    directions of the employer . . . .” (Id., subd. (a).)
    52.
    Clark v. QG Printing II, LLC (E.D.Cal. Sept. 18, 2020, No. 1:18-cv-00899-AWI-EPG)
    2020 U.S.Dist. Lexis 171610 at page *51.
    In support of the trial court’s determination, DMW argues courts are not “barred
    from denying class certification on the ground that the claim is legally meritless, so long
    as both sides have an opportunity to brief the issue,” citing Linder, 
    supra,
     23 Cal.4th at
    page 443. In Linder, the court cautioned against such an approach but did not foreclose
    it. (Ibid.) The court wrote, “we are not convinced that certification should be
    conditioned upon a showing that class claims for relief are likely to prevail.” (Ibid.) It
    then stated, “in keeping with the principle that trial courts should be afforded flexibility
    in dealing with class actions [citations], we do not foreclose the possibility that, in the
    exceptional case where the defense has no other reasonable pretrial means to challenge
    the merits of a claim to be asserted by a proposed class, the trial court may, after giving
    the parties notice and an opportunity to brief the merits question, refuse class certification
    because the claim lacks merit as a matter of law. Furthermore, we see nothing to prevent
    a court from considering the legal sufficiency of claims when ruling on certification
    where both sides jointly request such action.” (Ibid.)
    DMW does not contend it had no other reasonable pretrial means to challenge the
    merits of plaintiffs’ reimbursement claims. Nor has it pointed to anywhere in the record
    where the parties jointly requested the trial court determine the merits of the claim, or
    where the trial court gave the parties notice of its intent to do so and an opportunity to
    brief the issue, and we have found no such record references.
    We conclude the trial court improperly ruled on the merits of plaintiffs’ claims for
    reimbursement of steel-toe boots. Plaintiffs did not have fair notice the trial court would
    rule on those grounds and, consequently, the class certification issue should not have
    been adjudicated on that basis.
    53.
    We further agree with plaintiffs that there is sufficient evidence in the record that
    DMW had a policy of requiring its employees to wear steel-toe boots, and that whether
    DMW has liability under section 2802 is susceptible to common proof with regard to
    factual and legal questions.
    VII.   REMAINING ISSUES TO BE DECIDED BY THE TRIAL COURT
    A.     Manageability
    The trial court’s ruling on manageability of individualized issues correctly noted
    “[t]he proponent of class certification must demonstrate that the proposed class action is
    manageable” (see Washington Mutual Bank v. Superior Court, supra, 24 Cal.4th at
    p. 922; accord, Global Minerals & Metals Corp. v. Superior Court (2003) 
    113 Cal.App.4th 836
    , 850) and that it must “ ‘carefully weigh the respective benefits and
    burdens of a class action, and . . . permit its maintenance only where substantial benefits
    will be accrued by both litigants and the courts alike’ ” quoting Reyes, supra, 196
    Cal.App.3d at page 1275. (Accord, Global Minerals, at p. 849.) “In certifying a class
    action, the court must . . . conclude that litigation of individual issues . . . can be managed
    fairly and efficiently.” (Duran v. U.S. Bank National Assn. (2014) 
    59 Cal.4th 1
    , 28–29.)
    “[T]he manageability of individual issues is just as important as the existence of common
    questions uniting the proposed class.” (Id. at p. 29.) The manageability of individualized
    issues of class members’ damages is likewise an appropriate and necessary consideration.
    (See Rosack v. Volvo of America Corp. (1982) 
    131 Cal.App.3d 741
    , 754 [“Manageability
    of the class with regard to proof of the amount of each class member’s damages may
    present an independent ground for failure to certify the class.”])
    The trial court noted the grounds upon which DMW opposed manageability and
    that the evidence DMW submitted was supportive of its opposition. However, the court
    did not make a manageability determination—perhaps because it found common issues
    did not predominate as to any of the class claims.
    54.
    However, given our determination that common questions of law and fact do
    predominate as to liability under the rest and meal break claims, and the steel-toe boot
    reimbursement claims, it is necessary for the trial court to decide the issue of
    manageability of individualized issues pertaining to those claims—including, but not
    necessarily limited to, those that concern proof of damages.16
    In this regard, we reiterate that the trial court correctly identified numerous
    individualized issues that may impact whether class certification is appropriate for the
    rest and meal break claims. The individualized issues, as framed by the court, included
    determining “dates [employees] claim they were not provided with breaks, if they were
    specifically denied breaks, number of hours each worked, who was on their teams, what
    the other team members say with respect to breaks, where they were in the field, i.e.[,]
    were they accessible to going ‘off premises’ within the allot[t]ed break period, or if they
    were denied leaving the premises for breaks, did they ask for any meal/rest breaks.”
    In remanding the matter back to the trial court, we wish to stress that it is the
    proponent of class certification who bears the burden of demonstrating individual issues
    are manageable. (Washington Mutual Bank v. Superior Court, supra, 24 Cal.4th at
    pp. 924–925.) We express no opinion on how the court should rule on the manageability
    question.
    B.       Class Representative Issues
    In order to determine whether a well-defined community of interest exists for
    plaintiffs’ rest and meal break claims and steel-toe boot reimbursement claims, the trial
    court must also determine whether the proposed class representative has claims or
    defenses typical of the class, and whether the proposed class representative can
    adequately represent the class. (Sav-On, supra, 34 Cal.4th at p. 326.) Because the trial
    court concluded common questions did not predominate as to any of plaintiffs’ claims,
    16   See footnote 12, ante.
    55.
    the court did not have occasion to consider questions pertaining to the suitability of the
    proposed class representative to serve in that capacity. Given today’s ruling, it is
    necessary the court do so.17
    In the event the court determines the proposed class representative is not a suitable
    candidate to serve, the trial court shall determine whether plaintiffs should be granted
    leave to amend to propose a new class representative.
    C.     Derivative Claims
    The trial court did not consider class certification with regard to the derivative
    claims. To the extent those derivative claims are (or may be) premised on plaintiffs’ rest
    and meal break claims, and steel-toe boot reimbursement claims, the court must consider
    the relevant class certification issues to determine whether class action is appropriate for
    those derivative claims.
    DISPOSITION
    The trial court’s order denying class certification with regard to plaintiffs’
    proposed overtime and minimum wage subclasses is affirmed. The trial court’s order
    denying class certification of the business reimbursement subclass is affirmed except as
    to claims related to the reimbursement for steel-toe boots.
    The trial court’s order denying class certification as to the remainder of plaintiffs’
    proposed subclasses (i.e., the meal period, alternative meal period, rest break and
    business reimbursement [for steel-toe boots] subclasses) is reversed and remanded to the
    trial court to reconsider and redetermine class certification in light of the views expressed
    in this opinion. The trial court shall allow the parties further briefing opportunities with
    respect to the following: (1) the determination of whether individualized issues
    pertaining to claims of the remaining subclasses subject to potential class certification are
    17  We express no opinion on the effect of the arbitration agreement on Alcaraz’s
    ability to serve as class representative.
    56.
    manageable and whether class certification will result in substantial benefits for the
    litigants and court alike; (2) the determination of whether the proposed class
    representative has claims or defenses typical of the class, and whether he or she can
    adequately represent the class; (3) in the event plaintiffs desire to propose a different
    class representative, whether plaintiffs should be granted leave to amend for that purpose;
    and (4) whether the derivative claims (i.e., plaintiffs’ third, fourth, and seventh causes of
    action) are appropriate for class certification consistent with this opinion.
    In the interest of justice, each party shall bear their own costs on appeal. (Cal.
    Rules of Court, rule 8.278(a)(5).)
    LEVY, Acting P. J.
    WE CONCUR:
    POOCHIGIAN, J.
    DETJEN, J.
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