In re A.E. ( 2019 )


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  • Filed 8/21/19
    CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION
    IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION TWO
    In re A.E. et al., Persons Coming Under
    the Juvenile Court Law.
    SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY
    CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES,                      E070578
    Plaintiff and Respondent,                 (Super.Ct.Nos. J274046, J274047,
    J274048, J274049, J274050 &
    v.                                                 J274051)
    E.E. et al.,                                       OPINION
    Defendants and Respondents;
    A.E. et al.,
    Appellants.
    APPEAL from the Superior Court of San Bernardino County.
    Christopher B. Marshall, Judge. Reversed with directions.
    Lori A. Fields, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Appellants.
    Michelle D. Blakemore, County Counsel, and Svetlana Kauper, Deputy County
    Counsel, for Plaintiff and Respondent.
    Emery F. El Habiby, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant
    and Respondent E.E.
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    Matthew I. Thue, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Respondent, J.E.
    Six children appeal from the juvenile court’s dispositional order granting
    reunification services to their parents. The court found that Welfare and Institutions
    Code 1 section 361.5, subdivision (b)(5) (section 361.5(b)(5)) and (b)(6) (section
    361.5(b)(6)) applied, warranting bypass of reunification services. But the court found
    that the bypass provisions were overridden under section 361.5, subdivision (c)(2)
    (section 361.5(c)(2)) and (c)(3) (section 361.5(c)(3)) because reunification was in the best
    interest of the children, services would likely prevent reabuse, and it would be
    detrimental not to provide them.
    We agree with the children that the findings under section 361.5(c)(2) and section
    361.5(c)(3) are not supported by substantial evidence. We accordingly reverse.
    Although the only issue on appeal is whether substantial evidence supports the
    juvenile court’s findings, our analysis requires us to address a legal issue that no prior
    published decision has mentioned. We hold that in section 361.5(c)(3), the term
    “testimony” refers to in-court oral statements of live witnesses, not to other forms of
    evidence.
    1     All further statutory references are to the Welfare and Institutions Code unless
    otherwise indicated.
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    BACKGROUND
    A. Referral and Detention
    1. Events Preceding Detention
    E.E. (Mother) and J.E. (Father) (collectively, Parents) adopted M.E. (male, age
    10) 2 and twins D.E.1 and D.E.2 (males, age 8) in 2012 and adopted S.E. (male, age 5),
    A.E.1 (male, age 4), and A.E.2 (female, age 3) (collectively, the children) in 2017. The
    three younger children began living with Mother and Father in July 2016, and their
    adoptions were finalized on November 7, 2017.
    On December 6, 2017, San Bernardino County Children and Family Services
    (CFS) received an immediate response referral alleging physical abuse and general
    neglect of A.E.1. Shortly after noon that day, Mother had taken A.E.1 to the hospital,
    where he was diagnosed with multiple head injuries, namely, a right frontal scalp
    hematoma, a nondisplaced frontal and temporal fracture, a subdural hematoma, and a
    concussion. Because of the skull fracture, A.E.1 was transferred to a second hospital.
    When interviewed at the second hospital by the CFS social worker, Mother said
    that A.E.1 was running in the hallway at home and fell on his face onto a tile floor.
    When she approached him, she saw him “‘go woozy’ and fall once more, face first,
    [o]nto the tile floor.” He was unconscious for about five minutes, woke up, vomited
    twice, and was then taken to the hospital approximately 30 minutes later, vomiting twice
    on the way and one more time upon arrival. Mother left the other five children at home
    2    These are the children’s ages at the time of the detention report on
    December 12, 2017.
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    alone, awaiting a family friend who would look after them. Mother reported that A.E.1
    had speech and developmental delays, visual motor integration issues, and absent
    seizures. She further reported that he had fallen several times in the past but had not been
    injured. Mother denied physical abuse and reported disciplining the children by giving
    them time-outs, sending them to bed early, or taking away privileges.
    Father did not have any firsthand knowledge of the incident because he was at
    work when it happened. He, however, corroborated Mother’s account of A.E.1 having
    “physical limitations” and issues “‘with balance’” for which he said A.E.1 was being
    treated by a physical therapist and an occupational therapist. Father denied that the
    children were physically abused. He explained that Mother was responsible entirely for
    disciplining them and that she would do so by having them “‘sit on the time-out chair.’”
    The CFS social worker attempted to interview A.E.1 at the hospital but was unable
    to because of his speech delay. The two treating physicians reported that there were no
    signs of physical abuse, and one of the doctors reported that A.E.1’s injuries were
    consistent with him falling.
    After consulting with a CFS supervisor, the same social worker, accompanied by
    another CFS social worker and two police officers, drove directly from the hospital to the
    family home to interview the other children, with Parents’ permission. It was late at
    night, and all of the children were sleeping. The social workers and the officers were
    unable to interview S.E. (who would not wake up) and A.E.2 (who woke up but would
    not respond to questions). But the social workers and officers interviewed M.E., D.E.1,
    and D.E.2 separately after they were awakened by Mother’s friend (C. Martinez), and
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    each of them gave the same answer when asked what happened to A.E.1: A.E.1 had been
    “bugging” A.E.2, and Mother told him to stop. A.E.1 did not stop, and Mother then
    grabbed A.E.1 and threw him against the wall twice. Mother then grabbed him again,
    threw him to the floor, and pinned him down with her knee. Mother stopped when A.E.1
    began to throw up. D.E.2 was afraid because he saw that A.E.1’s leg had twisted and
    thought that A.E.1 “‘was really hurt.’”
    M.E., D.E.1, and D.E.2 also all said that Mother and Father disciplined them by
    spanking them on the buttocks with a “spanking spoon” and with their hands. M.E.
    explained that the children would get into “‘big scary trouble’” if they got out of bed
    during bedtime so he would “hold[] it” if he had to urinate, and the other children would
    either wear diapers or have accidents in bed. M.E. described “‘big scary trouble’” as the
    children being thrown onto the floor and spanked. M.E. reported that Mother had
    previously thrown S.E. on the floor after he touched A.E.2’s vagina.
    Early in the morning the next day, on December 7, 2017, CFS detained the
    children after securing a warrant. Mother was arrested for a violation of Penal Code
    section 273a, subdivision (a), willful harm or injury to a child.
    1.     Section 300 Petition and Detention
    Based on A.E.1’s injuries and the statements made by M.E., D.E.1, and D.E.2,
    CFS filed a dependency petition as to all of the children, alleging pursuant to
    subdivisions (a), (b)(1), and (e) of section 300 with respect to A.E.1 that Mother had
    seriously harmed and injured him, that she perpetrated severe physical abuse against him,
    and that Father knew or should have known of the abuse by Mother and had failed to
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    protect A.E.1 from her. 3 For the remaining five children, the petition alleged under
    subdivision (j) of section 300 that they were at substantial risk of harm as a result of
    Mother’s abuse of their sibling, A.E.1, and Father’s failure to protect A.E.1. At the
    detention hearing, the court ordered the children detained, allowed Mother and Father to
    visit the children weekly with professional supervision, and ordered reunification services
    for both Parents pending development of the case plan.
    2.     Contested Jurisdiction and Disposition Hearing
    At the five-day contested jurisdiction and disposition hearing, the court heard
    testimony from Mother, L. Heling (an instructional assistant who worked at a preschool
    that most of the children attended), C. Martinez (the friend of Mother’s who watched the
    children while Mother was at the hospital with A.E.1) and the social worker who
    authored the detention report. In addition, the court admitted the jurisdiction and
    disposition report filed by CFS in January 2018, the two additional information reports
    (also referred to as 6.7 reports) filed by CFS in February and March 2018, and all of the
    documents attached to those reports. The court also admitted a report from Dr. Robert L.
    Suiter, a clinical and forensic psychologist who evaluated Mother over the course of two
    sessions in February 2018 to determine her psychological propensity for abusing
    children.
    3      CFS also alleged under subdivision (b)(1) of section 300 that Mother and Father
    had a history of failing to protect A.E.1 by not providing him necessary medical
    treatment. The parties later stipulated to dismiss those allegations.
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    1. Documentary Evidence
    a. Interviews of the Children
    A social worker interviewed M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, and S.E. separately for the
    jurisdiction/disposition report. The social worker reported that M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, and
    S.E. confirmed the statements they made the night A.E.1 was injured. All four described
    “big scary trouble” as being thrown against the wall and/or onto the ground, sometimes
    repeatedly in the same incident. Mother would tell them to “‘get up’” and then throw
    them against the wall and/or onto the ground again. According to the oldest three (M.E.,
    D.E.1, and D.E.2), S.E. and A.E.1 were punished the most with “big scary trouble”
    because they behaved the worst. All four “stated that [A.E.2] does not get thrown against
    the wall or thrown onto the ground by [M]other and [F]ather.” S.E. said that Father also
    had been physically abusive toward him and the other boys but with less frequency than
    Mother.
    M.E., D.E.1, and D.E.2 stated that on the day A.E.1 was taken to the hospital he
    got into “big scary trouble” and that they saw Mother throw him against the wall and then
    onto the floor. D.E.1 and D.E.2 said that Mother told the other children to stay away but
    that they did not listen to her and saw what happened to A.E.1. In addition, all four
    children described the “secret spanking spoon” as a wooden spoon that was stored in the
    kitchen and that both Mother and Father had used to spank them on the buttocks. All
    four stated that Mother had told them that she had “since thrown the spoon away because
    she was told that she cannot use it to spank them.” S.E. was the only one who expressed
    that he was afraid of Mother and Father.
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    Two weeks later, on January 16-18, 2018, forensic interviews of all of the children
    were conducted by Children’s Assessment Center (CAC). In his forensic interview, M.E.
    provided further details about the incident, explaining that A.E.1 had gotten into “‘[b]ig,
    big, big, giant, scary trouble’” and then vomited “‘yellow’” onto the carpet, which he
    described as “‘almost like [A.E.1] had pee coming out of his mouth.’” He said A.E.1
    threw up anytime he got into trouble “‘that big.’” The Parents disciplined the children by
    throwing them against the wall, by throwing them onto the floor, or by sending them to
    time-out. “‘Big, big, big, scary trouble’” happened when either Mother or Father would
    throw a child against a wall or onto the floor. Both Parents participated in “‘[b]ig [s]cary
    [t]rouble’” on “multiple occasions,” which resuled in the children “‘get[ting] hurt.’”
    M.E. verbally expressed and demonstrated that when the children were thrown to the
    floor Parents would pick them up “‘high and then drop us.’” A.E.1, D.E.1, A.E.2, and
    M.E. all had gotten into “[b]ig [s]cary [t]rouble.”
    M.E., who turned 10 years old several months before the interview in
    September 2017, explained that the last time he was in “‘[b]ig [s]cary [t]rouble’” was
    when he was nine years old. M.E.’s brothers were tickling him, so Mother threw M.E.
    onto the “‘hard’” tile floor and then immediately threw him against the back of the couch.
    Mother did not allow the children to tickle each other because Mother had been hurt once
    from being tickled. As a result of being thrown that day, M.E.’s hip, head, and back hurt.
    Mother apologized to M.E. because she heard him “‘crying for a long time.’” M.E.’s
    body shook when he was in “[b]ig [s]cary [t]rouble,” and he would feel scared.
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    D.E.2 reiterated to the forensic interviewer what he had said in previous interviews
    and described witnessing Mother screaming at A.E.1, throwing A.E.1 against the wall,
    and then throwing A.E.1 onto the ground because Mother wanted to know what A.E.1
    was doing. When A.E.1 attempted to respond, Mother was unable to hear the response
    because she was holding his throat against the wall. When Mother “‘made [A.E.1] break
    his leg,’” A.E.1 stopped responding. After A.E.1 was thrown, he was unable to walk,
    threw up, had a “‘flat stomach,’” and “‘was leaking blood out of his mouth.’” Mother
    told D.E.2 to tell everyone that he did not see her hurt A.E.1 and that he should say that
    “‘[they] were jumping on the trampoline.’” D.E.2 did not think that his siblings had seen
    what happened to A.E.1 but thought they could hear Mother screaming from their
    vantage point of sitting on the couch. D.E.2 said that Mother also had thrown S.E.
    previously.
    In contrast to the interview with the social worker for the jurisdiction/disposition
    report, S.E. did not cooperate with the forensic interviewer and repeatedly asked for the
    interview to be terminated. S.E. did not know what happened to A.E.1 but also said,
    “‘He didn’t get hurt … I can’t tell you. Once he gets back I’ll tell you.’” S.E. thought
    that A.E.1 might never return home if S.E. said anything.
    In contrast to S.E., D.E.1 was very talkative and engaged in the forensic interview.
    He explained that he always told the truth unless he was told to lie by Mother, such as
    when she told him to lie and say that he was on the trampoline when A.E.1 was injured.
    D.E.1 had only been in “[b]ig [s]cary [t]rouble” once and did not want to talk about it
    because it was too scary.
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    D.E.1 described what happened to A.E.1 as follows: Mother picked A.E.1 up
    “high in the air,” A.E.1 was screaming, crying, and bleeding, and Mother threw A.E.1
    onto the ground on top of a toy, which caused A.E.1’s leg to be injured and prevented
    him from getting up. Mother then hit A.E.1 “everywhere,” and Mother placed her whole
    body on top of A.E.1’s. Afterward, A.E.1 was lying on the carpet and “throwing up
    ‘everywhere … Pedia-sure, banana, string cheese and milk.’” A.E.1 was bleeding
    because Mother dug her nails into his armpits, and he had blood all over his clothes,
    including his shirt, socks, pants, and underwear. D.E.1 screamed while watching because
    he was “so scared.” Mother told D.E.1 to go away, but he ducked down so he could
    “‘spy’” on Mother.
    As to Father, D.E.1 explained that Father was “always ‘mean to us’” and that
    when the children would get into trouble Father would yell, use time-outs, spank the
    children on the butt, and “do[] ‘Big Scary Trouble.’” Father used the “‘[s]panken
    [s]poon’” to spank D.E.1 on his bare butt, which D.E.1 described as “really hurt[ing]”
    and causing his butt to burn, to turn red, and to “feel[] really hot.” The “[s]panken
    [s]poon” was a wooden spoon from the kitchen.
    A.E.2, who had not been interviewed previously, told the forensic interviewer that
    on the day of the incident A.E.1 was screaming outside, and Mother had to “take [A.E.1]
    to the doctors.” A.E.1 “‘goes into time out’” when he gets into trouble. A.E.2 started to
    discuss someone getting “‘beat up’” but did not further elaborate.
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    A.E.1 told the forensic interviewer, “‘Mommy hit me,’” and he then pointed to his
    head. When asked to provide additional details, A.E.1 refused and repeatedly stated, “‘I
    don’t want to tell you.’” He also said that Mother had hit A.E.2 on the head.
    Responding to a later allegation of abuse arising from the group home at which
    A.E.1 was placed, on February 21, 2018, a social worker interviewed A.E.1 about those
    allegations, which he denied. During the interview, he spontaneously disclosed that
    Mother had “hurt his head when she ‘throwed me against the wall,’” which he said
    happened twice on the day he was taken to the hospital. He expressed being afraid of his
    Parents when they got upset with him or when he was in trouble. A.E.1 said that Mother
    had also thrown S.E. against the wall but denied seeing it happen with the other children.
    The social worker noted that A.E.1 appeared to have a steady gait and good
    balance. Neither the social worker nor an administrator at the group home had observed
    A.E.1 suffering from any kind of “falling disorder.” Neither had seen A.E.1 fall down in
    the manner described by Parents. The social worker saw A.E.1 stand on his head.
    b. Police Report
    The police report presented additional information that had been gathered when
    the three oldest boys, Father, Mother, and C. Martinez were interviewed on the night of
    the incident. The report recounted the boys’ description of the day A.E.1 was injured,
    including their description of where they were located when the incident occurred and the
    vantage point of their observation. Although Father told the officer that neither he nor
    Mother physically punished the children, Father indicated that he had “seen [Mother] get
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    overwhelmed with the children and sometimes yell[] at them.” Father said A.E.1 fell two
    to three times per day.
    C. Martinez stated that when she arrived at the house to watch the children while
    A.E.1 was at the hospital, M.E. told her that A.E.1 had gotten into trouble and that
    Mother had been mad at A.E.1. C. Martinez reported that she had seen Mother spank one
    of the children with an open hand on their buttocks before and also had seen Mother get
    overwhelmed and yell at the children.
    Mother told the officer that A.E.1 fell while running down the hall toward the
    playroom, tripped, fell on his face on the tile floor in the entryway, stood up, threw up,
    fell again, and then became unconscious. She said that A.E.1 fell approximately 25 times
    a day. She said that the term “big scary trouble” referred to “a time out in the rocking
    chair or early bed time.” The “spanking spoon” referred to a spoon in the kitchen that
    Mother and Father only threatened to use on the children.
    c. Forensic Medical Examinations
    The CAC also conducted forensic medical examinations of A.E.1, S.E., and A.E.2.
    For A.E.1, the forensic examiner found that the injury A.E.1 sustained the day he was
    taken to the hospital, “a [right] frontal [and] anterior temporal fracture with small
    associated subdural hematoma,” was consistent with physical abuse and opined that the
    “[i]nitial story provided by [M]other that [A.E.1] fell from his own height while running
    does not explain the injury.” The report also documented various other bruises, scars,
    and lesions on A.E.1’s body. The examiner recommended protective custody.
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    For S.E., the forensic medical examiner found “bruising that [was] concerning to
    bilateral flanks and forehead.” Additional “scattered” bruising was found on S.E.’s shins,
    and a scar was found on his upper inner arm. The examiner concluded that the injuries
    were “suspicious for physical abuse” and recommended protective custody but noted that
    “more history [was] needed.”
    The forensic medical examination of A.E.2 revealed “non-specific injuries on …
    various locations of her body,” including “bruising on her chest and legs, scarring on her
    arms and legs, and abrasions on her face, left arm and left leg.” A.E.2 could not explain
    the injuries. The examiner found that the injuries could have been “caused by abusive or
    accidental mechanisms” and concluded that there were not “any findings specific for
    physical abuse.” However, “[t]he absence of physical findings on [A.E.2] [did] not
    negate the provided history which is suspicious for physical abuse.”
    d. Other Medical Records
    Medical records from the two hospitals at which A.E.1 was treated on
    December 6, 2017, documented the injuries A.E.1 sustained, the tests conducted, and the
    treatment A.E.1 received. A resident who treated him at one of the hospitals reported that
    “[t]here is no suspicion of child abuse in this case.”
    Skeletal surveys were conducted of both A.E.2 and A.E.1 on December 28, 2017.
    For A.E.2, “[n]o acute, healing, or healed fracture[s] [were] detected.” For A.E.1, the
    skeletal survey was “concerning for anterior wedge compression deformities involving
    the T5-T8 vertebral bodies, concerning for compression fractures and an irregularity
    along the inferior sternum which may be artifactual.” A repeat skeletal survey was
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    conducted on A.E.1 in early March 2018, and “[t]he vertebral and sternal findings
    previously questioned were not seen on further imaging and d[id] not represent healing
    traumatic findings.” The CAC doctor who summarized these findings opined that “[i]n
    totality, [A.E.1]’s head trauma, bruising and history provided by siblings is consistent
    with physical abuse.”
    e. Interviews with Parents and Progress Reports from Therapists
    Mother
    In an interview with a social worker on December 21, 2017, Mother “adamantly
    denied the allegations and stated that she would never do anything to cause harm to any
    of her children.” Mother denied using corporal punishment to discipline the children and
    explained that the disciplinary methods she employed instead included requiring the
    children to go to bed early, requiring them to do a “‘time in’ or ‘time out,’” or taking
    away a privilege from them. She had no explanation for why any of the children would
    allege that she had physically abused them. She noted that there were no less than 18
    service providers in her home weekly, so there was “no way that she and/or [Father]
    could have been abusing the children without it going unnoticed and unreported.” She
    also expressed that she loved and missed the children very much and hoped to reunify
    with them.
    In a progress report dated February 4, 2018, Mother’s therapist reported that
    Mother continued to “maintain[] innocence of abuse but acknowledge[d] she should have
    waited for her friend to arrive at the home, to care for the other children, prior to leaving
    for the hospital with the injured child.” Mother had actively participated in individual
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    therapy sessions and parenting classes and was willing to participate in any services
    needed to reunify with the children and was “able to identify acts of protection for the
    well[-]being and safety of her children.” Additional individual therapy sessions were
    recommended.
    Father
    In an interview with a social worker on January 10, 2018, Father also denied the
    allegations, denied that corporal punishment was ever used by him or Mother, and “stated
    that [Mother] would never cause harm to any of their children.” He corroborated the
    disciplinary techniques that Mother said that they used and denied that the “‘secret
    spanking spoon’” was ever used for disciplinary purposes. The spoon was “something
    they would joke about with the children.” He too said that he and Mother love the
    children very much and were sad that they were not together.
    In a progress report dated February 8, 2018, Father’s therapist reported that Father
    had actively participated in both his individual therapy sessions and parenting class
    sessions, with a notable increase in participation during the more recent individual
    sessions. Father denied abusing or neglecting the children himself but expressed concern
    about whether Mother may have abused them and whether he had thus failed to protect
    them from her. The therapist recommended additional individual therapy sessions and
    parenting classes, opining that Father would need to “feel more comfortable in therapy
    before being open to challenging and processing his thoughts and understanding about his
    case.”
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    f. Report from Dr. Suiter
    Dr. Suiter evaluated Mother to determine whether she had a psychological
    propensity for abusing children. He reported that Mother “strongly” denied ever
    physically disciplining the children and said that A.E.1 had a “‘bad fall and passed out’”
    on the day that he was taken to the hospital. To discipline the children, Mother explained
    that she used time-in techniques, talked to them about their behavior, and talked to them
    about the natural consequences of their behavior. A multitude of tests were performed to
    determine Mother’s “underlying personality dynamics as well as to identify any
    underlying psychopathology.” The results of the tests indicated that Mother was “likely
    to be emotionally well-adjusted and psychologically robust” and did not indicate that she
    had “a propensity to abuse children or to be unduly rigid in terms of parenting.” Dr.
    Suiter emphasized that “the results of this evaluation [were] quite inconsistent with
    [Mother] physically abusing a child.” The assessment, however, was limited to analyzing
    whether an individual had “traits and characteristics that would predispose them with a
    specific behavior and/or demonstrate if their traits and characteristics were consistent
    with having committed a certain behavior,” and it could not “determine whether or not
    someone has engaged in a particular behavior or will of a certainty engage in such a
    behavior.”
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    g. Letters
    Mother and Father submitted 37 character reference letters to CFS.4 The letters
    were attached to the jurisdiction/disposition report and were from friends, neighbors,
    fellow church congregants, pastors from Mother’s and Father’s church, former students
    of Mother’s from classes she taught at church, other parents who belonged to the same
    homeschooling program, and various teachers and tutors of the children, as well as an
    employee from their preschool, a speech therapist, and a mail carrier. The overall
    consensus was that Parents were involved, devoted, and loving parents, the children
    appeared happy, the children loved and adored Parents, Parents disciplined the children
    appropriately, and the children did not exhibit any signs or symptoms of abuse.
    The licensed marriage and family therapist who taught Mother’s parenting classes
    reported that Mother had completed the 12-week course, actively participated, shared
    about her experiences as a parent, acknowledged “needing growth” as a parent, and
    “presented as having increased her knowledge about effective parenting.”
    2. Testimony
    a. Mother
    At the outset of her testimony, Mother described the number of placements in
    which the children had previously resided before Mother and Father adopted them (14 for
    D.E.1 and D.E.2 over 18 months, nine for M.E. over the same period, and several for the
    youngest three), their previous histories with physical and sexual abuse, the services they
    4     We have counted one of the letters twice because it was signed by two people (a
    married couple).
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    required every week to attend to their developmental, emotional, and physical needs, and
    the number of service providers (approximately 15) who were in Parent’s home weekly
    for the children. Mother insisted that A.E.1 had injured himself by falling while he was
    running toward her in the hallway to put his shoes on for school. A.E.1 fell to the side 20
    feet away from her, she started walking toward him, he got up, and then he fell again
    before she reached him. Mother thought that A.E.1 had an absent seizure, which he was
    prone to do. A.E.1 had hit his head and was unconscious by the time Mother reached
    him. He awoke in her arms approximately three minutes later and then threw up. He
    threw up twice at home and once at the hospital. A.E.2 was the only child who may have
    seen what happened because A.E.2 was sitting on the couch. The boys were outside
    playing on the trampoline. As a result of her concern for A.E.1, Mother panicked and left
    the rest of the children in the house alone while she took A.E.1 to the hospital. She called
    C. Martinez, a family friend, to take care of them.
    A.E.1 was unsteady on his feet and bumped into things or fell on a regular basis.
    But he had never suffered such a serious injury to the head from falling, though Mother
    had heard he fractured a rib at a previous placement.
    Mother denied ever hitting the children or spanking the children with a spoon or
    anything else and said that she and Father disciplined the children by taking away a
    privilege or by giving a time-out or a time-in. Several months before the incident Mother
    had seen a meme on Facebook depicting a spoon and a jail cell with a caption that read
    “something to the effect of, if more parents used this, we would, referring to the spoon,
    then we would need less of this, referring to the jail cell.” M.E. saw it too and asked
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    Mother about it, and she explained to him that “some people think it’s okay to hit their
    kids with a spoon as far as correction,” “but it’s not appropriate for our family.” M.E.
    began talking to his siblings about what he learned about other parents who discipline
    their children using spoons, and the children brought up the topic a couple of times
    thereafter.
    Mother thought one of the superhero movies the children had watched with her
    had a “big scary monster” in it. The children did not discuss the monster after seeing the
    movie.
    b. C. Martinez
    C. Martinez was a friend of Mother’s who had assisted Mother with the children at
    home three days per week over the previous one and one-half years. She never saw
    Mother or Father physically abuse any of the children, nor did she notice any visible
    injuries on them. She estimated that there were at least 10 providers in the home weekly
    to help with schooling or training for the children. C. Martinez watched the children
    alone at times, and the children never complained about being abused. The children have
    vivid imaginations. A.E.1 had balance problems and would sometimes “just fall over”
    when walking or would walk into objects like walls or chairs. When A.E.1 fell, she saw
    him fall to the side or forward. When he fell forward, he braced himself with his hands.
    C. Martinez never saw A.E.1 fall and hit his head.
    On the day of the incident, when C. Martinez arrived to take care of the children,
    M.E. told her that Mother took A.E.1 to the hospital because A.E.1 got sick. The
    children did not appear upset or distressed.
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    c. L. Heling
    Heling, an instructional assistant at a preschool that all of the children but M.E.
    had attended, was familiar with all of the children because she helped Mother out at home
    one day per week with tutoring and home schooling. D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E., and A.E.1 all
    had problems separating fact from fiction, so they would tell stories about things that they
    had seen on television or read in a book and think those things had actually happened.
    S.E. would mistake movies for dreams he had. Heling occasionally showed the children
    movies and recalled “big scary trouble” occurring in a Power Ranger movie.
    A.E.1 was “quite clumsy” and the most likely to fall of the children. A.E.1 fell a
    lot in the playground, but Heling never saw him fall and hit his head or significantly
    injure himself.
    A.E.2 continued attending the preschool for some time after she was detained and
    would tell Heling every day that she missed Mother and that Father loved her. Heling
    thought the children adored Parents and had a “[v]ery loving” relationship with them.
    d. Social Worker
    Mayra Bernal, the social worker who responded to the immediate response referral
    and authored the detention report, was called to the stand by Mother. She described her
    investigation and initial interviews at the hospital and with the children at their home.
    Bernal felt M.E., D.E.1, and D.E.2 were honest during their initial interviews. She had
    interviewed hundreds of children and sometimes felt the children she interviewed were
    not telling the truth. The detention warrant was secured based on the injuries sustained
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    by A.E.1 and the statements made by M.E., D.E.1, and D.E.2. Bernal believed that A.E.1
    had suffered abuse in the home.
    3. CFS Recommendation
    In its assessment and evaluation, CFS opined that the case had a “very guarded”
    prognosis. CFS noted that the disclosures made by the children who were interviewed
    remained consistent and that Parents continued to deny any wrongdoing. CFS had
    serious concerns about the overall safety and well-being of the children with both Parents
    but especially Mother. CFS recommended that it was not in the children’s best interest to
    offer reunification services for Mother and that Father would “need to complete intensive
    individual counseling and parenting classes in an effort to accept and come to terms with
    the disclosures of physical abuse that were made by the children and also in an effort to
    gain the ability to be protective of the children.” CFS further opined that Father would
    need to show that he truly benefitted from the services, not merely that he completed
    them.
    4. Jurisdiction and Disposition Findings and Orders
    At the end of the hearing, the court granted the children’s request to amend the
    original petition to conform to proof. Specifically, with respect to A.E.1, the court added
    an allegation against Father under section 300, subdivision (e) (severe physical abuse of a
    child under five years old), that he knew or reasonably should have known of the abuse
    by Mother but failed to intervene and allowed Mother unsupervised access to A.E.1,
    thereby placing A.E.1 “at substantial risk of serious physical harm and/or future abuse.”
    With respect to M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E., and A.E.2, the court added an allegation under
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    section 300, subdivision (a) (serious physical harm inflicted nonaccidentally), alleging
    that the boys other than A.E.1 suffered severe physical abuse by both Mother and Father,
    namely, being hit with a wooden spoon and thrown against the wall on numerous
    occasions. 5
    As to A.E.1, the court then found true the jurisdictional allegations under
    subdivisions (a) and (e) of section 300 as to Mother, and subdivisions (b)(1) and (e) as to
    Father. The court found that the allegations under subdivision (e) of section 300 were
    supported by clear and convincing evidence. With respect to the remaining children, the
    court found true the jurisdictional allegations under subdivisions (a) and (j) of section
    300.
    The court found that the reunification bypass provision of section 361.5(b)(5)
    applied as to A.E.1 and that section 361.5(b)(6) applied as to the other children. The
    court then found that reunification was nonetheless in the best interest of the children and
    ordered CFS to provide reunification services to Mother and Father under section
    361.5(c)(3) as to A.E.1 and section 361.5(c)(2) as to the other children.
    The court explained that “all of the children, but [A.E.1], specifically, initially,
    have been to many homes before they came and—came with the [Parents]. [¶] They
    finally have a family. They have a [M]other and a [F]ather who [are] committed to them
    to have a family. And recognizing that all the children are special needs, these [P]arents
    5      We note that the court added the allegation under subdivision (a) of section 300 as
    to A.E.2 on the court’s own motion. The children requested that it be added as to M.E.,
    D.E.1, D.E.2, and S.E. only.
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    have concluded that they want to be able to nurture and develop these children. There’s
    also no prior CFS history. [¶] And so the Court is going to find that the frustration the
    [M]other and the [F]ather at times with respect to losing patience and using the wooden
    spoon, throwing against the wall, are things that services would likely prevent re-abuse.”
    The court acknowledged that the challenge for Parents would be “understanding and
    acceptance of responsibility for what happened” but “conclude[d] that it is likely that the
    children can be safely returned within 12 months.”
    DISCUSSION 6
    The children contend that the juvenile court abused its discretion by ordering
    reunification services for both Mother and Father under section 361.5(b)(5) and section
    361.5(b)(6) because the record does not contain substantial evidence supporting the
    court’s findings that reunification would be in the children’s best interest, that services
    would likely prevent the reabuse of A.E.1, and that A.E.1 was closely and positively
    attached to Mother. We agree with the children and conclude that those findings are not
    supported. The juvenile court therefore abused its discretion by ordering reunification
    services for both Mother and Father.
    6       At the request of Father, we take judicial notice of the minute order from the
    October 5, 2018, six-month review hearing under section 366.21, subdivision (e). (Evid.
    Code, § 452, subd. (e).) Father contends that the order renders the appeal moot because
    the reunification services ordered at disposition have been completed and new
    reunification services have been ordered. We reject Father’s contention and conclude
    that the order for continued reunification services does not render the appeal moot. Our
    reversal of the dispositional order will provide effective relief by terminating
    reunification services for both Parents. (In re N.S. (2016) 
    245 Cal. App. 4th 53
    , 60.)
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    1. Standard of Review
    “‘A juvenile court has broad discretion when determining whether . . .
    reunification services would be in the best interests of the child under section 361.5,
    subdivision (c). [Citation.] An appellate court will reverse that determination only if the
    juvenile court abuses its discretion.’” (In re G.L. (2014) 
    222 Cal. App. 4th 1153
    , 1164-
    1165, quoting In re William B. (2008) 
    163 Cal. App. 4th 1220
    , 1229.) If the juvenile
    court’s finding that further services would be in the children’s best interest is not
    supported by substantial evidence, then the order for such services constitutes an abuse of
    discretion. (In re William 
    B., supra
    , at p. 1229; In re S.B. (2013) 
    222 Cal. App. 4th 612
    ,
    623; In re Ethan N. (2004) 
    122 Cal. App. 4th 55
    , 65.)
    2. Reunification Bypass Under Section 361.5(b)(6) as to M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E.,
    and A.E.2
    Reunification services must be provided to the mother and statutorily presumed
    father of children who have been removed from their parents’ custody, unless a statutory
    exception applies. (In re Baby Boy H. (1998) 
    63 Cal. App. 4th 470
    , 478 (Baby Boy H.);
    § 361.5, subd. (a).) The statutory exceptions are contained in subdivision (b) of section
    361.5, which provides that “[r]eunification services need not be provided” if the court
    finds “by clear and convincing evidence” that any of 17 enumerated bypass provisions
    apply. (In re Allison J. (2010) 
    190 Cal. App. 4th 1106
    , 1112.) Subdivision (c) of section
    361.5 adds with respect to nearly all of the bypass provisions that, if a bypass provision
    applies, then the court “shall not order” reunification services unless the court makes
    certain countervailing factual findings. (§ 361.5(c)(2) [denial of reunification services is
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    mandatory, subject to override, for parents described by § 361.5 subd. (b)(3)-(4) & (6)-
    (17)], § 361.5(c)(3) [denial of reunification services is mandatory, subject to override, for
    parents described by § 361.5(b)(5)].) In sum, section 361.5, subdivision (a), provides that
    reunification services are mandatory unless a bypass provision applies; section 361.5,
    subdivision (b), lists the bypass provisions and provides that reunification services are
    discretionary if any of them apply; but section 361.5, subdivision (c), provides that denial
    of reunification services is mandatory, not discretionary, with respect to nearly all of the
    bypass provisions, unless the court makes certain countervailing factual findings.
    The bypass provision at issue with respect to all of the children except A.E.1 is
    section 361.5(b)(6), which applies if (1) “the child has been adjudicated a dependent …
    as a result of … severe physical harm to the child, a sibling, or a half sibling by a parent
    or guardian,” and (2) “the court makes a factual finding that it would not benefit the child
    to pursue reunification services with the offending parent or guardian.” (§ 361.5, subd.
    (b)(6)(A).) If that bypass provision applies, then the court “shall not order” reunification
    services “unless the court finds, by clear and convincing evidence, that reunification is in
    the best interest of the child.” (§ 361.5(c)(2).)
    Here, the trial court found by clear and convincing evidence that section
    361.5(b)(6) applied, but the court also found by clear and convincing evidence that it was
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    overridden under section 361.5(c)(2). The children argue that the court’s findings under
    section 361.5(c)(2) are not supported by substantial evidence, and we agree. 7
    The record contains no evidence to support the trial court’s finding that
    reunification would be in the best interest of M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E., and A.E.2.
    Although there was evidence that both Mother and Father were actively engaged in
    services, there was no prospect of any substantive progress in addressing the issues that
    led to the children’s removal, because both Mother and Father continued to deny that
    they had ever abused the children or had even physically disciplined them.8 Rather,
    Mother continued to insist that A.E.1’s injuries were caused by an accidental fall, despite
    the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The forensic medical examiner concluded
    that the injuries A.E.1 sustained could not have been caused by his falling in the manner
    described by Mother. And the children (except the youngest, A.E.2) consistently
    7       We note that the court’s finding under section 361.5(b)(6)(A) that “it would not
    benefit the child[ren] to pursue reunification services” appears to contradict the court’s
    finding under section 361.5(c)(2) that “reunification is in the best interest of the
    child[ren].” Were we to determine that both of those findings are supported by
    substantial evidence and that they are irreconcilably contradictory, we would have to
    remand the matter for further fact finding by the trial court. (Hollywood Cleaning &
    Pressing Co. v. Hollywood Laundry Service, Inc. (1932) 
    217 Cal. 131
    , 137 [when the trial
    court’s findings are “contradictory and irreconcilable,” but each of them “finds support in
    the record,” the matter must be remanded for further fact finding].) Because the finding
    under section 361.5(c)(2) is not supported by substantial evidence, however, no such
    remand is necessary. We accordingly need not and do not decide whether the findings
    are irreconcilably contradictory.
    8      We assume the correctness of the trial court’s findings that the allegations of the
    petition, amended to conform to proof, are true. Those findings are not challenged by
    any party, they are supported by overwhelming evidence (though there is also conflicting
    evidence, namely, Parents’ denials), and they do not conflict with any of the court’s other
    findings.
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    recounted that Mother had caused A.E.1’s injuries and that both Mother and Father had
    repeatedly used inappropriate physical discipline.
    Mother counters that we cannot infer anything from her persistent denials of any
    wrongdoing because she was merely exercising her Fifth Amendment privilege against
    self-incrimination while a criminal investigation was pending. The Fifth Amendment,
    however, is not implicated here because Mother chose to testify. While the Fifth
    Amendment protected Mother from being compelled to testify, “the Fifth Amendment
    privilege does not condone perjury” once an individual chooses to testify. (United States
    v. Wong (1977) 
    431 U.S. 174
    , 178.) Mother cites no authority for the proposition that the
    Fifth Amendment prohibits the juvenile court (or this court) from relying, to Mother’s
    detriment, on Mother’s voluntary testimony in this case, and we are aware of none.
    Moreover, testimony in juvenile proceedings (and anything said to a therapist in
    connection with those proceedings) is not “admissible as evidence in any other action or
    proceeding.” (§ 355.1, subd. (f); In re Mark A. (2007) 
    156 Cal. App. 4th 1124
    , 1142
    [“California law offers a promise to a parent that his or her testimony in juvenile
    dependency proceedings, as well as his or her statements made in therapy in furtherance
    of the reunification process, will not be used against the parent in a subsequent criminal
    prosecution.”].) Thus, contrary to the assumption underlying Mother’s argument, she
    could have testified honestly in this dependency proceeding and not suffered adverse
    consequences in a future criminal proceeding. Mother made the choice to testify and
    deny all responsibility for the severe abuse of A.E.1, as well as her and Father’s physical
    abuse of the other children, and the Fifth Amendment does not prohibit us from relying
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    on those denials in determining whether the record contains substantial evidence that
    reunification would be in the children’s best interest.
    Mother further contends that her participation in both parenting classes and
    individual therapy demonstrates that she “was more than able to reform her parenting
    style and disciplinary techniques, learn from services, and successfully reunify with the
    children.” That contention is not supported by the evidence. The evidence demonstrates
    that Mother attended the prescribed individual therapy sessions and parenting classes, but
    it does not support a finding that she meaningfully participated in those services. Under
    the circumstances of this case, meaningful participation would require some recognition
    or acknowledgement of the abusive behavior. Mother’s therapist reported that Mother
    had progressed by being “able to identify acts of protection for the well[-]being and
    safety of her children,” and the forensic psychologist noted that “[h]er responses on a
    subjective parenting measure were quite adequate in describing how to appropriately
    address the situations presented her in an adaptive manner.” Rather than tending to prove
    that Mother would be able to reform and that services likely would be successful, the
    reports from the therapist and the psychologist demonstrate merely that Mother was
    capable of identifying appropriate disciplinary techniques. That evidence has no
    tendency to show that reunification services are likely to succeed, however, because
    Mother’s interview with the social worker and the police on the night of the incident
    showed that Mother was already aware of (and claimed to rely exclusively upon)
    appropriate disciplinary techniques, such as time-ins or time-outs, taking away privileges,
    and sending the children to bed early. Despite Mother’s demonstrated awareness of such
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    techniques from the inception of the investigation, the trial court found on the basis of
    overwhelming evidence that Mother in fact employed inappropriate disciplinary methods,
    repeatedly subjecting the children to severe physical abuse. Mother’s attendance at
    counseling sessions and ability to describe appropriate disciplinary techniques in those
    settings thus have no tendency to show that her actual parenting practices are likely to
    improve.
    For similar reasons, the record also does not contain substantial evidence that
    reunification services for Father would be in the children’s best interest. Like Mother,
    Father has consistently denied abusing the children. Though he did not testify, he too
    never admitted to abusing them himself. He denied responsibility for ever disciplining
    the children himself at all. While he began to express concern in therapy that Mother
    may have abused the children and that he may have failed to protect the children from
    her, he did not take any responsibility for his own abusive actions and never admitted that
    Mother had actually abused the children. Yet M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, and S.E. all stated, and
    the trial court specifically found, that Father had perpetrated the same abuse as Mother—
    spanking them with the spoon and his hands and throwing them against the wall and onto
    the floor. A.E.1 said that he was afraid of both Parents when he was in trouble. Given
    Father’s own severe physical abuse of the children and his blanket denials, there was no
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    evidence that Father would benefit from services or that services were likely to prevent
    reabuse, so there was no evidence that services would be in the children’s best interest. 9
    CFS and Father argue, as an alternative basis to affirm the order for reunification
    services for Father, that the section 361.5(b)(6), bypass provision does not apply to Father
    because, according to them, the only allegations found true as to Father were based on his
    failure to protect the children from abuse perpetrated by Mother. The argument fails
    because it is based on a false premise. All of the allegations against Father in the original
    petition were based on his failure to protect, but the court amended the petition to
    conform to proof and sustained an amended allegation under subdivision (a) of section
    300 that both Father and Mother perpetrated severe physical abuse against M.E., S.E.,
    D.E.1, and D.E.2. That allegation is not based solely on Father’s failure to protect. In
    relevant part, it reads: “This physical abuse by the parents against the children place[s]
    the children at significant risk of physical harm.” In announcing its ruling, the trial court
    expressly referred to Father’s physical abuse of the children: “[T]hat there was either
    implied consent by the [F]ather with respect to what was going on by [Mother] and what
    she was doing by way of the physical abuse when she would get frustrated with the
    9      We do not mean to suggest that in every bypass case, a parent’s failure to take
    responsibility for the alleged abuse or neglect will always, as a matter of law, prohibit the
    court from making the countervailing factual findings necessary to override bypass.
    Rather, in conducting substantial evidence review, we consider the entire record, which
    here includes parents’ denials. Those denials are relevant on their own and also affect
    interpretation of the other relevant evidence. We reverse not because parents’ denials are
    inconsistent with the trial court’s findings as a matter of law but because the record,
    considered as a whole, does not contain substantial evidence to support those findings.
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    children, and that the children have identified that the [F]ather, also, did that at times,
    again, throwing against the wall and using the wooden spoon. So the [F]ather knew that
    the children were being abused by the [M]other, as well as his own acts and omissions.”
    (Italics added.) We therefore reject CFS’s and Father’s contention and conclude that
    substantial evidence supports the trial court’s finding that section 361.5(b)(6) applies to
    Father, as he too was found to have perpetrated “severe physical abuse” against the four
    oldest children.
    In sum, the record contains no evidence that reunification services could lead to
    adequate protection of the children and hence no evidence that reunification services
    would be in the children’s best interest, given Father’s and Mother’s ongoing insistence
    that all of the physical abuse allegations were false. The record contains no evidence to
    suggest that reunification services would be effective in modifying Parents’ behavior in
    the future. The court’s finding to the contrary was wholly speculative. “A judgment is
    not supported by substantial evidence if it is based solely upon unreasonable inferences,
    speculation or conjecture.” (In re H.B. (2008) 
    161 Cal. App. 4th 115
    , 120.) Considered in
    light of Parents’ blanket denials, the record presents no reason to believe that further
    services would prevent Mother or Father from carrying out the same physical abuse and
    inflicting similar or worse injuries in the future. (See In re A.M. (2013) 
    217 Cal. App. 4th 1067
    , 1077-1078 [finding no evidentiary basis supporting reunification services under
    section 361.5(b)(5) and section 361.5(b)(6) where the parent was unwilling to
    acknowledge abuse in the first place].)
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    We therefore conclude that the record does not contain substantial evidence to
    support the juvenile court’s order granting reunification services to Mother and Father as
    to M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E., and A.E.2 under section 361.5(c)(2).
    3. Reunification Bypass Under Section 361.5(b)(5) as to A.E.1
    To deny a parent reunification services under section 361.5(b)(5), the juvenile
    court must have taken jurisdiction over the child under section 300, subdivision (e),
    finding that the child was under five years old and suffered severe physical abuse because
    of the conduct of the parent or guardian. “Pursuant to section 361.5(c)[(3)], if a juvenile
    court finds the [section 361.5(b)(5)] circumstances to be supported by clear and
    convincing evidence, the juvenile court is prohibited from granting reunification services
    ‘unless it finds that, based on competent testimony, those services are likely to prevent
    reabuse or continued neglect of the child or that failure to try reunification will be
    detrimental to the child because the child is closely and positively attached to that
    parent.’” (In re 
    A.M., supra
    , 217 Cal.App.4th at pp. 1074-1075, quoting § 361.5(c)(3).)
    The trial court made the necessary findings under section 361.5(c)(3) and on that
    basis ordered reunification services for both Parents as to A.E.1. The children argue that
    the court’s findings under section 361.5(c)(3) are not supported by substantial evidence.
    We agree.
    Section 361.5(c)(3) requires that the necessary findings be “based on competent
    testimony.” The term “testimony” refers to in-court oral statements of a live witness.
    (In re Jessica B. (1989) 
    207 Cal. App. 3d 504
    , 518.) “Testimony” thus is not synonymous
    with “evidence.” Rather, testimony is a specific type of evidence. (Evid. Code, § 140
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    [‘“Evidence’ means testimony, writings, material objects, or other things presented to the
    senses that are offered to prove the existence or nonexistence of a fact.”].)
    If there is no ambiguity in the statutory language, then “‘“we presume the
    Legislature meant what it said and the plain meaning of the statute governs.”’” (Pineda
    v. Bank of America, N.A. (2010) 
    50 Cal. 4th 1389
    , 1394.) Moreover, “[w]hen different
    terms are used in parts of the same statutory scheme, they are presumed to have different
    meanings.” (In re Austin P. (2004) 
    118 Cal. App. 4th 1124
    , 1130; Romano v. Mercury Ins.
    Co. (2005) 
    128 Cal. App. 4th 1333
    , 1343.) Subdivision (c)(1) of section 361.5 refers to
    “competent evidence from mental health professionals.” Subdivision (c)(4) of section
    361.5, in contrast, refers to “testimony by a competent professional.” Given the
    Legislature’s use of different words—“evidence” and “testimony”—in different parts of
    the statute, and given the plain meanings of the terms “evidence” and “testimony,” we
    must presume that the Legislature meant what it said in section 361.5(c)(3): The
    necessary findings for an order for reunification services under section 361.5(c)(3) must
    be based on “competent testimony,” that is, in-court oral statements of a live witness.
    Here, the court found that reunification services as to A.E.1 were warranted under
    both prongs of section 361.5(c)(3). For Mother, the court found that “failure to try
    reunification would be detrimental to [A.E.1] because he’s positively and closely
    attached to the mother.” With respect to both Mother and Father, the court found that
    “services would likely prevent re-abuse.”
    The record contains no competent testimony to support those findings. The
    respondent’s briefs filed by Mother, Father, and CFS do not cite any testimony that
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    supports the court’s findings under section 361.5(c)(3). In the relevant sections of those
    briefs, the only citation to any testimony at all is Father’s citation to pages 89-90 of the
    reporter’s transcript, which contains some background testimony by Mother concerning
    how and when the children came to be in her care, how many previous placements the
    children had, and so forth. That testimony has no tendency to prove either that services
    are likely to prevent reabuse or that A.E.1 is so closely and positively attached to Mother
    or Father that failure to try reunification would be detrimental.
    In addition, having read the entire reporter’s transcript, we have independently
    determined that it does not contain competent testimony to support the trial court’s
    findings under section 361.5(c)(3). The only line of testimony that arguably lends some
    support to the court’s findings comes from the instructional assistant at the children’s
    preschool, who testified that she thought the children “adore their parents.” Considered
    in light of the entire record, that single statement does not constitute substantial evidence
    that A.E.1 is so closely and positively attached to Mother or Father that failure to try
    reunification would be detrimental to him. Children often adore various adults with
    whom they have frequent contact, including preschool teachers and babysitters, but those
    individuals enter and exit the children’s lives without causing the children to suffer
    detriment. Viewed in the context of all of the evidence in this case—including the
    relatively brief time that A.E.1 spent in Parents’ care and the evidence of his fear of
    Parents as a result of the severe physical abuse he suffered at their hands—the single,
    unexplored statement that the children “adore their parents” cannot constitute substantial
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    evidence that failure to try reunification would be detrimental to A.E.1 because of a close
    and positive attachment between him and Parents.
    Moreover, for the reasons discussed in Part 2, ante, the record contains no
    evidence, let alone testimony, that services would likely prevent reabuse, because both
    Mother and Father continue to be in complete denial about the existence of the abuse. (In
    re 
    A.M., supra
    , 217 Cal.App.4th at p. 1077 [“there are no services that will prevent
    reabuse by a parent who refuses to acknowledge the abuse in the first place”]; In re
    Madison S. (2017) 15 Cal.App.5th 308, 327 [finding no evidence that services likely
    would prevent reabuse where the father denied abusing the child and “neither parent was
    even willing to acknowledge that nonaccidental injury occurred”].)
    Finally, Mother argues that “[t]o the extent the record is silent as to the nature of
    [A.E.1’s] bond with [Mother], this was due to [CFS’s] failure to satisfy its own obligation
    under section 361.5[(c)(3)], to investigate whether reunification services were likely to be
    successful.” We disagree. Although section 361.5(c)(3) does require the social worker to
    “investigate the circumstances leading to the removal of the child and advise the court
    whether there are circumstances that indicate that reunification is likely to be successful
    or unsuccessful and whether failure to order reunification is likely to be detrimental to the
    child,” Mother and Father still bore the burden of proving, through competent testimony,
    the factual predicates to an order for reunification services under section 361.5(c)(3).
    (In re Madison 
    S., supra
    , 15 Cal.App.5th at p. 327.) Parents did not introduce any such
    testimony, the record contains none, and section 361.5(c)(3)’s requirement that CFS
    investigate and advise the court did not further require CFS to call witnesses to testify
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    against CFS’s own recommendation. Thus, assuming for the sake of argument that CFS
    failed to discharge its obligation to investigate and advise the court under section
    361.5(c)(3), that failure does not affect our analysis, because it does not show that the
    trial court’s findings under section 361.5(c)(3) were supported by competent testimony.
    They were not. 10
    For all of these reasons, we conclude that the record does not contain competent
    testimony to support the juvenile court’s order granting reunification services to Mother
    and Father as to A.E.1 under section 361.5(c)(3).
    DISPOSITION
    The portions of the dispositional orders of April 5, 2018, granting reunification
    services to Mother and Father for M.E., D.E.1, D.E.2, S.E., A.E.1, and A.E.2 are
    reversed. The dispositional orders are otherwise affirmed. The matter is remanded to the
    10      Mother cites In re Rebekah R. (1994) 
    27 Cal. App. 4th 1638
    in support of her
    argument, but we find that opinion’s analysis unpersuasive. In Rebekah R., the juvenile
    court denied reunification services to the father, and the Court of Appeal reversed on the
    ground that because “the department did not satisfy its investigatory obligation” under
    (what is now codified as) section 361.5(c)(3), “the juvenile court’s order denying the
    father reunification services is not supported by substantial evidence.” (In re Rebekah 
    R. supra
    , at p. 1656.) That analysis would appear to be unsound. Once the juvenile court
    finds that section 361.5(b)(5) applies, section 361.5(c)(3) requires the court to deny
    reunification services unless the court makes a countervailing factual finding that services
    are likely to prevent reabuse or that denial of services would be detrimental because the
    child is closely and positively attached to the parent. It appears that the trial court in
    Rebekah R. made no such countervailing finding and accordingly denied reunification
    services, as required by statute. Rebekah R. does not explain how the department’s
    failure to provide additional information on the relevant issues could show that the trial
    court’s failure to make the necessary countervailing finding is not supported by
    substantial evidence. On the contrary, if the trial court did not have sufficient evidence to
    make the necessary findings under section 361.5(c)(3), then the court did exactly what it
    was required to do, namely, order no services.
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    juvenile court with directions to enter a new order denying reunification services to both
    Mother and Father as to all of the children and setting a selection and implementation
    hearing under section 366.26.
    CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION
    MENETREZ
    J.
    We concur:
    McKINSTER
    Acting P. J.
    SLOUGH
    J.
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Document Info

Docket Number: E070578

Filed Date: 8/21/2019

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 8/22/2019