People v. Shaw CA4/1 ( 2016 )


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  • Filed 2/5/16 P. v. Shaw CA4/1
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    COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION ONE
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,                                                         D068686
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.                                                         (Super. Ct. No. SWF1301567)
    ROBERT M. SHAW,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Riverside, Angel M.
    Bermudez, Judge. Affirmed.
    Kevin D. Sheehy, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Appellant.
    Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General, Gerald A. Engler, Chief Assistant Attorney
    General, Julie L. Garland, Assistant Attorney General, Arlene A. Sevidal, Sean M.
    Rodriguez, Elizabeth M. Carino and Alan L. Amann, Deputy Attorneys General, for
    Plaintiff and Respondent.
    A jury convicted defendant Robert M. Shaw of two counts of lewd touching of a
    child under the age of 14 (6-year-old Jane Doe; Pen. Code,1 § 288, subd. (a); counts 2,
    4). In two other counts, Shaw was found guilty of lesser included offenses from those
    originally charged, i.e., guilty of attempted sexual penetration of a minor under the age of
    10 and simple battery. (§§ 664, subd. (a); 288.7, subd. (b); 242; counts 1, 3.) These
    charges arose after Doe and her mother Nancy C. (Nancy) visited Shaw and his girlfriend
    at their house over a period of several months.
    The jury also rendered guilty verdicts against Shaw on one count of witness
    dissuasion against Nancy (§ 136.1, subd. (b); count 5); one count of criminal threats
    (§ 422; count 6); and one count of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon (§ 29900;
    count 7). Related allegations of use or threat of force, and firearms use, were found true
    on the witness dissuasion and threat counts. (§§ 136.1, subd. (c); 12022.5, subd. (a);
    1192.7, subd. (c)(8).) Shaw was sentenced to 45 years in prison.
    On appeal, Shaw contends the trial court prejudicially erred by admitting into
    evidence a social worker's videotaped interview of Doe, completed shortly after the
    incidents were reported, as violating both the hearsay rule of Evidence Code section 1360
    and his Sixth Amendment constitutional rights to confrontation of witnesses. (U.S.
    Const., 6th Amend.; Crawford v. Washington (2004) 
    541 U.S. 36
    , 59, fn. 9 (Crawford).)
    He argues that the record discloses that Doe was a materially unreliable or incompetent
    witness, both as shown in the videotape and by her testimony at trial two years later (at
    1      All further statutory references are to the Penal Code unless noted.
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    eight years of age). He thus contends the trial court erred and violated his rights of
    confrontation by allowing the videotape to be shown to the jury while Doe was present in
    court to testify, but after she had given only a minimal or inadequate amount of
    foundational testimony. (People v. Roberto V. (2001) 
    93 Cal.App.4th 1350
    , 1367
    (Roberto V.).) He claims he was entitled to a grant of new trial, on the basis of
    insufficient evidence of the molestation counts.
    Shaw further argues that the trial court committed prejudicial evidentiary and
    confrontation error by excluding evidence of a previous unrelated sexual assault by
    Nancy's ex-husband A.C. (Doe's father) against a half-sister of Doe. Shaw argues that
    such evidence would have been highly probative of Nancy's motivation to falsely accuse
    him or to try to predispose Doe to make such accusations. (Evid. Code, § 352.)
    Cumulative error is also asserted as to the molestation counts, although no arguments are
    made as to the witness dissuasion convictions.
    Finding no prejudicial state or constitutional error in this record, we affirm the
    judgment of conviction.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    A. Background: The Incidents
    For a few months in the fall of 2011, Nancy and Shaw's then-girlfriend Caccia
    Holster (now his wife), were nursing students who studied together at the home shared by
    Shaw and Holster. Until mid-December 2011, Nancy brought Doe along, and Doe turned
    six in November 2011. Shaw was usually present at the house during such visits, and
    Doe would usually watch television and movies with him from the couches in the front
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    room, while Nancy and Holster studied in the next room, with the door open. Shaw was
    48 years old in 2012, and was known to his friends as a father-figure type person who
    liked being with and playing with children at family gatherings, roughhousing and
    tickling them. He often gave Doe and other children he knew presents and candy.
    A few months later, on January 31, 2012, Doe was getting ready for bed when
    Nancy asked her if anyone had hurt her or touched her in a way that should not happen.
    Doe told Nancy that Shaw had tickled her "butt" and her "cochina" through her pants as
    they were watching movies.2 Doe said that Shaw told her he would stop giving her
    candy and toys if she told anyone what happened. Nancy responded to Doe that Shaw
    could get into trouble if it was true, and Doe said it was true.
    Nancy called Holster and reported what Doe said. They argued and Nancy told
    Holster to forget what happened and to forget her phone number. The next day,
    February 1, 2012, Nancy reported to a school administrator that Doe had been abused and
    then filed a police report.
    The night of February 1, Holster drove Shaw over to Nancy's house. One of
    Nancy's neighbors overheard a man riding in a car yelling, "Where's the bitch. Where's
    the bitch live?" The neighbor could not identify Shaw as the man in the car who started
    yelling at Nancy that he wanted to "clear up some fucking allegations" she had made
    against him. Nancy recognized Shaw and told him to leave, closing the door, and he
    2       Nancy and Doe used the expressions "cochina" for vagina and "butt" for buttocks.
    According to the trial judge, cochina is a Spanish language word normally meaning dirty
    or big.
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    started pounding and kicking the screen door and calling her names. He said he was not
    scared and threatened to kill her, her daughter, and Nancy's boyfriend Carlos.3 Nancy
    knew that Shaw had a gun and thought that she saw it tucked in his waistband.
    Some neighbors showed up, and Shaw argued with them, then left with Holster.
    Nancy called the police, but did not mention a gun in her 911 call. After about an hour
    and a half, police arrived and interviewed her. She told them Shaw had lifted his shirt to
    show her a handgun tucked in his waistband.
    Meanwhile, Shaw and Holster went to the house of Holster's and Shaw's friend,
    Stacy Pimentel, who had previously lived with Shaw as a family member. Shaw asked
    Pimentel whether he had ever made her feel uncomfortable, and she said no, but
    expressed the opinion that the person who molested Doe "could have been anybody."
    Shaw angrily punched a hole in the wall, and Pimentel called police. She saw Shaw hand
    a gun-like object to Holster. Police arrived and Holster mentioned that Shaw had a knife
    when he went over to see Nancy. Holster said it was Nancy who started the yelling and
    screaming.
    A month later, on March 1, 2012, Doe was interviewed by a social worker, Katie,
    a member of the Riverside Child Assessment Team (RCAT). We describe this taped
    interview in more detail in the discussion portion of this opinion (pt. I.B, post). In short,
    Doe answered questions by saying that she understood the concept of telling the truth.
    3     On appeal, Shaw does not challenge his convictions for threats and dissuading a
    witness. We describe those events only generally, and they are relevant to his other
    arguments, such as entitlement to a new trial for insufficiency of the evidence.
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    She made a few mistakes in answering preliminary questions about her school subjects
    and teachers and the date of her birthday. When asked why she came to the office that
    day, she said it was to talk about "Bob," as she knew Shaw, and she described her
    acquaintance with him. They used to watch TV at his house while her mother was in the
    next room, and one day, Shaw pulled down her pants and put his fingers in her "cochina,"
    which she explained was in the "front" of her body, where the "peepee" comes out. She
    also said that he tickled her butt (which she identified as where she goes potty), he had
    used both hands and hurt her, and he told her not to tell her mother. She said this had
    happened once, but then said she remembered another time as well. She also described
    the incident when Shaw came over to the house and yelled at her mother and scared
    them.
    B. Motions in Limine; Introduction of Videotape
    At the outset of trial, defense counsel brought a motion in limine seeking a
    competency hearing for Doe under Evidence Code sections 402 and 701, on the grounds
    that the recording of her RCAT interview gave rise to doubts about whether she
    understood the basic nature of the oath to tell the truth, and whether she had the capacity
    to communicate her allegations without being led by adult questioning. (Roberto V.,
    supra, 93 Cal.App.4th at p. 1367.) The court discussed related issues with counsel,
    including the hearsay exception in Evidence Code section 1360, subdivision (a) for
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    certain statements by a child about being molested.4 The court explained that it had
    reviewed the transcript and the interview appeared to be a reliable one within the
    meaning of the statute. In it, Doe had promised to tell the truth and gave responsive
    answers to the interviewer's questions, and she appeared to be able to communicate quite
    well for a person of her age.
    Subject to the other requirements of Evidence Code section 1360, the court
    determined that no separate hearing on competency would be necessary, because
    appropriate notice had been given that the statement might be used, pursuant to the
    statute's subdivision (b).5 The matter would be handled at trial by placing the child on the
    witness stand under oath, and based on the voir dire questioning, the court would be
    further evaluating her cognitive ability and development as it affected her testimony. The
    jury could hear the video evidence and it would be instructed on how to evaluate the
    testimony of a child witness by considering her cognitive ability and development, and her
    4       Evidence Code section 1360, subdivision (a) provides: "In a criminal prosecution
    where the victim is a minor, a statement made by the victim when under the age of 12
    describing any act of child abuse or neglect performed with or on the child by another, or
    describing any attempted act of child abuse or neglect with or on the child by another, is
    not made inadmissible by the hearsay rule if all of the following apply: [¶] (1) The
    statement is not otherwise admissible by statute or court rule. (2) The court finds, in a
    hearing conducted outside the presence of the jury, that the time, content, and
    circumstances of the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability. (3) The child
    either: [¶] (A) Testifies at the proceedings. (B) Is unavailable as a witness, in which case
    the statement may be admitted only if there is evidence of the child abuse or neglect that
    corroborates the statement made by the child."
    5      Evidence Code section 1360, subdivision (b) requires advance notice to the adverse
    party by the proponent of the statement, before any use of such a statement in a
    proceeding. Charges of child abuse to which this section applies include acts proscribed
    by section 11165.1. (Evid. Code, § 1360, subd. (c).)
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    ability to perceive events and communicate her understanding of them. Counsel
    tentatively agreed to that approach.
    Before trial, defense counsel sought discovery about an incident in which Nancy's
    former stepdaughter M., who was older than Doe, had been raped or molested in 2006 by
    Nancy's former husband A.C., the father of both girls. Defense counsel argued that
    Nancy had been talking about that incident to another witness, such that it might lead to
    evidence about Doe's potential hypersexual awareness, in terms of Nancy having frequent
    discussions with Doe about bad touching. The court ordered that such information be
    made available, if the prosecutor had it.
    Next, the court conducted a hearing under Evidence Code section 402 on the
    prosecutor's motion in limine to exclude evidence about the molestation of Doe's half-
    sister M. Nancy explained that once Doe started going to day care when she was four
    years old (2009-2010), Nancy routinely asked her every few months whether anyone had
    touched her private parts in an inappropriate way. Nancy denied knowing any details
    about the molestation or rape of her former stepdaughter, and said that that was not the
    reason that she split up with her former husband in 2006, while Doe was still an infant.
    The court concluded the hearing by declining to order further discovery about the
    stepdaughter as requested by the defense, and it further delineated the permissible scope
    of examination of the witnesses (both expert and percipient) as to the discussions
    between Nancy and Doe and what they talked about in terms of potential sexual
    misconduct. The court ruled that the genesis of those conversations, or why Nancy
    would have brought the topic up with the child, was not relevant and not probative as to
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    the issues in the current litigation, and such evidence would be excluded under Evidence
    Code section 352.
    C. Trial Testimony
    The week before Doe testified, a witness advocate from the prosecutor's office was
    present when Doe reviewed her RCAT interview. When Doe was called as a prosecution
    witness, she answered preliminary questions about her understanding of the importance
    of telling the truth, and how she might get into trouble if she did not do so, and she said
    she understood.
    Doe then answered other questions about where she lived and how she used to
    visit Shaw and Caccia (Holster) at their house. She did not recognize Shaw in the
    courtroom, even though she said she knew him for a long time. She said, "sometimes we
    would just watch TV, but then he did what he did sometimes too," which she explained
    was inappropriate behavior or touching, as she had told her mother. She also described
    talking to the interviewer at the hospital.
    Defense counsel renewed his objections to the playing of the interview video, both
    on confrontation clause grounds and as a state law objection, lack of any proper
    foundation to establish whether Doe could or could not remember what happened. He
    contended there should not be a trial initially based on the video, even in light of the
    hearsay exception provided by Evidence Code section 1360. The court stated that its
    previous ruling had determined that the criteria for this statutory exception had been
    established, in that the time, content and circumstances of the statements provided
    sufficient indicia of reliability, the required notice of intent to rely on the video had been
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    given, and the child was being made available as a witness at the current proceeding.
    (Ibid.) The court noted the defense objection for the record and determined that the video
    was admissible as a hearsay exception.
    In Doe's presence, the jury then viewed the video of the RCAT interview and
    received transcripts of it.6 The prosecutor asked her whether that was what happened
    during the interview and she agreed that it was. As will later be explained in more detail
    in this opinion, Doe testified directly and was cross-examined about photographic
    evidence and her memory of where she was sitting in the living room when the touching
    happened, once or twice, and how her mother was in the other room at the time, with her
    back toward her. (Pt. I.B, post.)
    Nancy testified about her acquaintance with Holster and Shaw, and said that the
    last time she took Doe to their house was in mid-December 2011. Doe was never behind
    closed doors with Shaw at the house. On a social basis, Nancy and Doe went target
    shooting with the couple one time. Nancy described asking Doe every once in a while, in
    the two years after she started preschool, if anyone had touched her or hurt her in any
    way, and telling Doe that no one should touch her private parts. Nancy also discussed the
    matter with Doe by using some of the study materials from her college anatomy class.
    Doe did not answer affirmatively about touching until January 31, 2012, when she told
    her mother that Shaw had been tickling her butt and her cochina through her pants while
    they were watching movies. She reported that he told her not to tell her mother or else
    6     The record contains the transcript of the interview, and Shaw has provided the
    video DVD for our review.
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    she would not be able to get candy or toys from him anymore. Nancy called Holster to
    ask her about it, then they argued and she told her to forget their friendship.
    The next day, Nancy went to the police to make a report. That evening, she heard
    her dogs barking and discovered that Shaw was yelling and pounding on her front door.
    He said he couldn't believe she would treat him like that and yelled, "I'll fucking kill
    you," as well as shouting that he would kill her daughter and her boyfriend. She could
    see a gun tucked in his waistband and recognized it from the time that they went shooting
    together. She had had a gun pulled on her before, when her ex-husband did so. She did
    not tell the 911 dispatcher about Shaw's gun because she was lost for words and panicked
    at the time, and the dispatcher kept interrupting her.
    About a month later, Nancy took Doe to a forensic interview at the hospital but
    was not present during it. She learned later that there were no physical findings of abuse
    to Doe's body. After the confrontation at her house, Nancy told Pimentel that Shaw had
    pointed a gun at her. She denied ever telling Pimentel that she made up the gun story.
    She said she never told anyone Doe had been in the bathtub when she made her
    disclosures.
    Nancy's former neighbor testified about the night he heard Shaw come over and
    yell and curse at Nancy, accusing her of lying. Pimentel was called as a prosecution
    witness, describing how Shaw had also confronted her that night and she ended up calling
    the police. Somewhere between three and six months before trial, Pimentel testified that
    Nancy called her and asked her to back up her story. Nancy then said she had made up
    the claims that Shaw had a gun when he came to the house, and she was thinking of
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    dropping the case. Until trial, Pimentel did not tell anyone that Nancy said she made up
    the gun story.
    Holster testified that she and Shaw had been dating for six years, since she was 18,
    and they carried out their plan to get married about a week after the incident giving rise to
    the charges. When they first arrived at Nancy's house that night, Shaw was upset but
    calm, but he got loud and angry after Nancy yelled and cursed at him. Holster admitted
    that Shaw did not have a knife at that time, as she had earlier told investigators. She
    knew that as an ex-felon, he was not allowed to possess a firearm, and she did not want
    him to get into trouble.7 When she and Shaw left Nancy's house, they went to Pimentel's
    house. Holster got her own gun out of her car and handed it to Shaw. When Pimentel
    called the police, Shaw handed the gun back to Holster. Holster went home while he
    stayed to talk to officers when they arrived. Testimony from the responding officers
    completed the prosecution's case-in-chief.
    D. Defense Evidence
    Shaw presented character evidence, in which eight of his longtime female friends
    of different ages, including a 12 year old, testified he was trustworthy and they never saw
    him touching any children inappropriately. He liked seeing children at family gatherings
    and interacted well with them, often sharing candy or giving them toys.
    7        Shaw stipulated to the element of a prior felony conviction concerning count 7,
    possession of a weapon by a felon. The trial court bifurcated proof of Shaw's other prior
    convictions (none of them for sexual offenses) from the guilt issues. Shaw did not testify
    at trial.
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    As expert evidence, the defense called Dr. Mitchell Eisen, a research psychologist,
    who testified about his knowledge of children's responses to typical interviews, and his
    review of Doe's RCAT interview. Even young children may be able to understand the
    difference between the truth and a lie, and may respond accurately to follow up
    questioning. However, a child's version of an incident can be readily influenced by a
    parent who tells them that someone involved is a bad person. When being interviewed, a
    child might give a false positive response if she does not understand the question being
    asked, is confused, wants to please the interviewer, or wants to leave the situation. In her
    interview, Doe did not appear to the defense expert to be overly intelligent, and she
    answered questions even if she did not understand them. He criticized the RCAT
    interviewer for failing to establish strongly enough that Doe could distinguish between
    true statements and lies, and for her excessive repetition of questions.
    Shaw's expert witness Dr. Christopher North, a clinical psychologist, interviewed
    him and found no signs of any serious psychological problems. Shaw's responses to
    questions did not show the typical attitudes or experiences common to men who have a
    sexual interest in and who molest children, e.g., identifying emotionally with children.
    Rather, Shaw had a strong abhorrence of child molesters, and he wanted and expected to
    fulfill typical roles as a good father and provider for his family. During the interviews, a
    jail deputy was present and Dr. North had to rely extensively on Shaw's responses, and
    those circumstances would normally reflect an interviewee's desire to portray himself in
    the best light. There was no way to tell for sure if he was lying.
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    Several defense witnesses challenged Nancy's account of how she learned about
    the incident, and whether Shaw had a gun during the confrontation at her house. Nancy's
    supervisor for her tutoring job at college testified that Nancy told her the disclosure took
    place when Nancy was bathing Doe, and Doe began acting in an unusual way. The
    witness advocate from the District Attorney's office met Nancy prior to the preliminary
    hearing, and said that Nancy did not mention to her that Shaw had pointed a gun at her
    during their confrontation. Pimentel testified that Nancy called her several times to talk
    about how Nancy's ex-husband had been put away for sex crimes, and to ask for
    Pimentel's help in putting away Shaw, who she thought was also a bad man. Pimentel
    started avoiding her calls.
    E. Verdict, New Trial Motion and Sentencing
    Following instructions and deliberations, the jury returned verdicts of guilty of
    lesser included offenses for counts 1 and 3, convicting Shaw of attempted sexual
    penetration of a minor and simple battery. (§§ 664, subd. (a); 288.7, subd. (b); 242 [but
    the oral copulation/sexual penetration charges were not sustained].) Shaw was convicted
    on counts 2 and 4, lewd acts with a child (§ 288, subd. (a)), and on counts 5 through 7,
    dissuading and threatening a witness and possession of a firearm by a felon.
    Pursuant to section 1181, subdivision (6), Shaw moved for a new trial on the
    ground that the evidence was not of sufficient probative value to sustain the jury verdicts
    on counts 1, 3, 4, and 5. He argued there was no significant evidence that sexual
    penetration or an attempt to do so took place. In court, Doe testified multiple times that
    Shaw only touched her cochina over her underwear, but after persistent questioning, she
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    changed her answer (to say that he also moved her underwear aside). She was unclear
    about whether the incident happened once or twice. Further, Doe's interview showed her
    confusion about when her birthday was and who her teacher was, and she could not
    identify how old she was when the incidents allegedly occurred. Shaw argued there was
    insufficient evidence to sustain counts 1, 3, 4, and 5.
    In opposition, the prosecutor argued that the statements Doe made to the RCAT
    interviewer supported the verdict, and her testimony was consistent in showing that she
    believed that Shaw had actually placed his hand inside her genitalia, more than once.
    The jury could have reasonably believed that Doe was telling the truth, even though she
    made mistakes about dates, because such mistakes were consistent with her age and
    cognitive ability. The trial court denied the new trial motion and sentenced Shaw to 45
    years in prison.
    DISCUSSION
    Shaw first contends the trial court abused its discretion by admitting the RCAT
    interview into evidence. We outline his reasons for claiming Doe's videotaped statements
    were materially unreliable, and that the manner in which they were presented at trial was
    unduly prejudicial and amounted to violations of his federal confrontation and due
    process rights. We also address his claim that his motion for new trial should have been
    granted for insufficient credible evidence.
    In part II, post, we discuss Shaw's contentions that under Evidence Code section
    352 and confrontation principles, the trial court erroneously excluded evidence about
    Nancy's potential bias and motivation to make false accusations against him, based on her
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    knowledge of the 2006 molestation or rape by her ex-husband of her former stepdaughter.
    Cumulative error arguments are also presented.
    I
    ADMISSION OF VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW AND DOE'S RELATED TESTIMONY
    A. Applicable Standards: State Law Claims
    Evidence Code section 1360 permits admission into evidence of statements by a
    young victim recounting acts of child abuse or neglect if, in addition to proper notice
    being given, the court finds sufficient indicia of reliability in the statements, and the child
    testifies or there is independent corroboration of the abuse. In determining reliability
    (and also whether the statements bear particularized guarantees of trustworthiness under
    the confrontation clause), courts have " 'considerable leeway in their consideration of
    appropriate factors.' " (Roberto V., supra, 93 Cal.App.4th at p. 1374.) The courts may
    consider such factors as: (1) spontaneity and consistent repetition of the statements; (2)
    the mental state of the declarant; (3) the declarant's use of terminology unexpected of a
    child of similar age; (4) the lack of a motive to fabricate; and (5) the child's ability to
    understand the duty to tell the truth and to distinguish between truth and falsity. (Ibid.,
    citing Idaho v. Wright (1990) 
    497 U.S. 805
    , 821-822; see In re Cindy L. (1997) 
    17 Cal.4th 15
    , 29-30 [identifying factors as "nonexhaustive," and adding to them the child's
    ability to understand the duty to tell the truth and to distinguish between truth and
    falsity]; In re Lucero L. (2000) 
    22 Cal.4th 1227
    , 1250 [in addition to Idaho v. Wright
    factors, any factor bearing on reliability may be considered].)
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    On whether a minor victim is competent to testify, the general rule is that "every
    person, irrespective of age, is qualified to be a witness and no person is disqualified to
    testify to any matter." (Evid. Code, § 700; People v. Montoya (2007) 
    149 Cal.App.4th 1139
    , 1149-1150 (Montoya).) "A person is incompetent and disqualified to be a witness
    if he or she is '[i]ncapable of expressing himself or herself concerning the matter so as to
    be understood, either directly or through interpretation by one who can understand him'
    [citation], or is '[i]ncapable of understanding the duty of a witness to tell the truth'
    [citation]. [Citation.] A witness's competency to testify is determined exclusively by the
    judge." (Ibid.) This determination includes the preliminary facts of capacity of the
    witness to understand the oath, and to communicate. (Ibid.) On review of the evidentiary
    ruling, an abuse of discretion standard is applied. (Roberto V., supra, 93 Cal.App.4th at
    p. 1368.)
    Once the witness is allowed to testify on a certain subject, the determination of
    whether he or she perceived and can recollect the events being described is left to the trier
    of fact. (Montoya, supra, 149 Cal.App.4th at pp. 1149-1150.) In general, "it is the
    exclusive province of the trial judge or jury to determine the credibility of a witness and
    the truth or falsity of the facts on which that determination depends." (People v. Jones
    (1990) 
    51 Cal.3d 294
    , 314.) In an extreme case, the trial court may exclude testimony
    that is deemed to be inherently incredible or demonstrably false. (People v. Hovarter
    (2008) 
    44 Cal.4th 983
    , 996 (Hovarter).)
    On appeal, the appellate court's task is different. When required to decide if
    sufficient evidence supports a verdict, as with Shaw's new trial argument, we must
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    determine whether the record contains substantial evidence from which a reasonable jury
    could find the accused guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. (Hovarter, supra, 44 Cal.4th at
    pp. 996-997.) " 'In evaluating the sufficiency of evidence, "the relevant question on
    appeal is not whether we are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt" [citation], but
    "whether ' "any rational trier of fact" ' could have been so persuaded." ' " (Id. at p. 997.)
    On review, the courts apply an abuse of discretion standard for the hearsay and
    related competency analyses required by Evidence Code section 1360. (Roberto V.,
    supra, 93 Cal.App.4th at p. 1367.) On these points, Shaw seeks to apply the standards of
    People v. Watson (1956) 
    46 Cal.2d 818
    , 836, which compel reversal if "it is reasonably
    probable the result would have been more favorable to the defendant had the error not
    occurred." (People v. Guiton (1993) 
    4 Cal.4th 1116
    , 1130.)
    B. Record and Arguments on Unreliability of RCAT Video of Child Witness
    Before the jury was selected, the court reviewed the transcript of the interview and
    made a finding that it appeared to be accurate as a transcript and was sufficiently reliable
    as a witness statement, in view of its timing, content, and the circumstances under which
    it was given. The prosecutor anticipated presenting Doe as a trial witness, along with
    submitting the videotape into evidence. (Evid. Code, § 1360, subds. (a)(2), (3)(A).)
    Once Doe was called as a witness, she answered preliminary questions about her ability
    to tell the truth, where and with whom she lived. Although she did not recognize Shaw in
    court, she knew that she used to know "Robert" and to go to his house when another
    person who lived there, Holster, needed her mother's help with studying things. Doe said
    she spent time with Robert watching TV, and that he also did other things too, such as
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    inappropriate behavior and touching, which is what the whole case was about. She told
    her mother after it happened and then went to a hospital to talk to an interviewer about it.
    When the prosecutor started to play the video, Shaw's attorney objected and the
    court discussed the matter with counsel in chambers. Defense counsel claimed the
    prosecutor had not revealed that he would be playing the video with the child on the
    stand, and said that this was equivalent to having a trial based on the video. The court
    replied that the hearsay exception of Evidence Code section 1360 applied, and overruled
    the objection as to foundation.
    Over defense objection, the prosecutor then played the video and provided
    transcripts for the court and the jury. In the interview, Doe said she was there to talk
    about Shaw, who did "bad things" to her when she went over to his house, while Nancy
    and Holster were in the other room. Once while he and she were watching television,
    they were leaning back together in a really big chair when he pulled down her pants, left
    her underwear in place but moved it aside, and tried to "go in [her] cochina" and hurt it.
    His two hands were trying to go in her cochina fast. He also tried to tickle her butt.
    Later, she told the interviewer that he was "going in" her butt "really strong" with his
    hands, more than tickling, and it hurt. She added that Shaw touched her on another
    occasion, and both times, he "did [the] same thing."
    After Doe watched the video with the jury, the prosecutor showed her photographs
    and she identified in them presents that she thought Shaw had given her, and the way the
    living room looked when she went over to Shaw's and Holster's house. She also
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    remembered that Shaw came over to the house with a gun, saying bad words and scaring
    her and her mother.
    During cross-examination, Doe testified that she was not sure how old she was
    when she told her mother about the touching, and that she and her mother sometimes
    talked about whether anybody had touched her in a way that they were not supposed to
    do. She remembered it was nighttime, although she was not yet in her pajamas, when she
    told her mother that Shaw "tickled [her] butt." Defense counsel asked what else Doe told
    her mother about the touching, and she replied that she said Shaw put his hand in her
    cochina and her butt. Nothing had happened with her underwear, and it was still up. She
    said that he put both hands in her cochina and her butt at the same time, and it hurt a little
    bit. He told Doe not to say "ow" even though it hurt. During redirect testimony, Doe
    demonstrated that Shaw had pulled her underwear down or over with one hand and used
    the other hand to go in her cochina and butt.
    C. Analysis of State Law Claims: Showing of Video at Trial
    Shaw first claims the trial court should have found that Doe's statements were
    unreliable on the face of the RCAT interview and transcript. He objects that no defense
    counsel was present during the interview, and since Doe did not testify at the preliminary
    hearing, he had no opportunity to challenge her credibility until trial, in cross-
    examination. However, he can cite to no authority that a defendant has a right to counsel
    at such an investigatory interview, before any charges are brought. (See Kentucky v.
    Stincer (1987) 
    482 U.S. 730
    , 740 [no error in excluding defendant from a competency
    hearing if later opportunity for effective cross-examination allowed]; California v. Green
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    (1970) 
    399 U.S. 149
    , 159 [even where defendant did not have ability to cross-examine a
    witness at the time a prior statement was made, later cross-examination at trial may be
    adequate]; 3 Witkin, Cal. Evidence (5th ed. 2012) Presentation at Trial, § 18, p. 57.)
    Instead, the main focus of his argument is that Doe was an unreliable witness and
    the interviewer only asked her briefly about whether she understood how to tell the truth
    or if there were consequences for lying. During the interview, six-year-old Doe made
    some mistakes in answering the interviewer, and answered questions even if she did not
    know the answer (e.g., "what's your gender?" "I don't have one.") She made some math
    mistakes in describing her schooling and rambled a bit when answering questions. The
    interviewer reminded her to say when she did not know an answer, and she agreed. She
    gave an incorrect date for her birthday and wasn't sure how old she was at the time of the
    incident, saying she was either five or six, and then, that it happened at both ages.
    Shaw argues that the trial court erred in concluding from this transcript that Doe
    was responsive to questions and able to communicate well for a person of her age. Once
    Doe started describing the incident, she was inconsistent on some details in her story, first
    saying Shaw touched her once, then saying she forgot and it was two times. Shaw argues
    Doe's account was physically implausible or impossible, to claim that he used both of his
    hands to go into her small body, especially when they were not behind closed doors and
    her mother was in the next room.
    When finding that the interview evidence was admissible under Evidence Code
    section 1360, the trial court stated it had reviewed the transcript and made a finding that
    the time, content and circumstances of the statements provided sufficient indicia of
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    reliability. In the interview, Doe said she knew the difference between a lie and a truth
    and that she understood she was supposed to tell the truth. (Evid. Code, § 702 [witness
    must have personal knowledge of the facts stated in testimony].) The interviewer's
    questions were open ended and they followed through with additional questions based
    upon Doe's prior answers. The Evidence Code section 1360 issues were thoroughly
    litigated before and during trial, and notice was given that hearsay material would be
    presented and that the child would testify, as she did. Shaw has not shown that the
    applicable state law standards for authenticating the transcript were not met. (See pt. I.D,
    post, regarding the confrontation clause arguments.)
    Shaw further argues that the court abused its discretion by allowing the interview
    to be played in the presence of Doe, on insufficient foundational testimony. This is
    apparently an argument that the court erred in controlling the order of proof at trial, rather
    than any question of first impression, as newly contended in his reply brief. It is well
    settled that a trial judge has a broad scope of discretion in controlling the proceedings
    during criminal trials. (People v. Contreras (1989) 
    210 Cal.App.3d 450
    , 456.) "In
    relation to evidence, [Pen. Code, §] 1044 states that it is the judge's duty 'to limit the
    introduction of evidence . . . to relevant and material matters, with a view to the
    expeditious and effective ascertainment of the truth regarding the matters involved.' "
    (5 Witkin, Cal. Criminal Law (4th ed. 2012) Criminal Trial, § 647, p. 1001.)
    Shaw seems to claim that in light of other testimony at trial, the interview was
    clearly excludable as overly suggestive and prejudicial. For example, there were no
    physical signs or findings of abuse, and he argued that Nancy's practice of questioning
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    Doe every few months about whether anyone had touched her inappropriately was
    possibly an overzealous one. The defense psychologist Dr. North examined Shaw and
    determined that his responses to questions did not show he had any sexual interest in
    children, and instead, he abhorred child molesters. Shaw's defense witnesses, including
    seven women who knew him well, were unaware of any previous allegations of sexual
    misconduct against him, and there were none.
    Shaw contends that the evidence of his confrontation of Nancy, when he learned
    of the charges, could properly be interpreted as a demonstration of outraged innocence.
    He points to the jury's relatively lengthy deliberations (over three court days) and its nine
    written inquiries to the court, as showing this was a very close case. Shaw contends these
    factors confirm that the admission of the RCAT interview was prejudicial error.
    However, we do not apply hindsight analysis, and we evaluate the trial court's
    discretionary decision to allow the evidence on the basis of the information before it, as
    of the time of the ruling. (People v. Hernandez (1999) 
    71 Cal.App.4th 417
    , 425; People
    v. Lewis and Oliver (2006) 
    39 Cal.4th 970
    , 998.) Moreover, the prosecutor's witness
    advocate had already shown the video to Doe about a week before trial, as part of case
    preparation.8
    8        Since the interview video was properly admitted into evidence under Evidence
    Code section 1360, we see no reason to discuss the Attorney General's alternative
    argument that refreshing a witness's recollection is an accepted procedure. (Compare
    Evid. Code, § 771, subd. (a) [witness may review a writing to refresh recollection before
    trial, if writing is disclosed to adverse party].)
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    As an alternate argument, Shaw contends the trial court erred in denying his new
    trial motion, which was based on the ground that the evidence was insufficient to sustain
    the verdict on counts 1, 3, 4, and 5. (§ 1181, subd. (6).) Shaw mainly argued that Doe's
    accounts of two adult hands being inserted into a six-year-old's genital area are physically
    impossible and improbable, especially when her mother was in the next room. He also
    suggested that Doe had been coached on what to say, as shown when she said she
    "forgot" that the touching of her cochina happened a second time.9
    On this record, we cannot conclude that the trial court abused its discretion in
    finding that the evidence as a whole supported the verdict, including the RCAT
    interview. In determining its admissibility, the trial court considered appropriate factors
    as identified in Roberto V., supra, 
    93 Cal.App.4th 1350
    , 1374 and other authorities. The
    relatively minor variations among Doe's statements to the interviewer and her statements
    at trial, and the amount and type of mistakes she made in answering questions, did not
    significantly undermine the required statutory foundational showing of reliability. (Evid.
    Code, § 1360, subds. (a), (b).) She was made available for cross-examination and the
    jury had the ability to evaluate her credibility, as a child witness, as they were specifically
    instructed. (See In re Cindy L., supra, 
    17 Cal.4th 15
    , 18 [a finding that a child witness
    9      In opposing the new trial ground of appeal, the Attorney General argues that the
    motion below excluded count 2, and no new argument should be allowed at this time. To
    the extent Shaw argued to the trial court that the evidence was unclear as to Doe's exact
    age on all counts, the record shows she was born in 2005 and was thus well under age 12,
    regarding the scope of coverage by the hearsay exception of Evidence Code section 1360.
    Because we find the denial of the new trial motion was justified, we need not address
    those particular issues.
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    lacks competence to understand difference between truth and falsity is not an absolute bar
    to the admission of her hearsay testimony, but relates to whether her statement is
    reliable].)
    " 'Except in . . . rare instances of demonstrable falsity, doubts about the credibility
    of the in-court witness should be left for the jury's resolution . . . .' " (Hovarter, supra, 
    44 Cal.4th 983
    , 996, citing People v. Cudjo (1993) 
    6 Cal.4th 585
    , 609; People v. Zamudio
    (2008) 
    43 Cal.4th 327
    , 357.) In his closing argument, Shaw was able to argue to the jury
    that Doe's account of the incident in the video was disjointed and confusing, and he noted
    she had ignored a question about touching and instead blurted out that Shaw said bad
    words to her mom and threatened to kill them. In light of all the evidence, including her
    testimony at trial, the jurors could have concluded that Shaw moved and adjusted Doe's
    clothing and touched her as she testified he did, and they were entitled to evaluate and
    believe her.
    Moreover, even in light of the conflicting evidence presented in Shaw's defense,
    he has not shown it was error to deny his motion for a new trial. The trial court had
    broad discretion in determining whether the evidence was of a sufficiently probative
    nature to uphold the verdict, as against the new trial motion. (People v. Dickens (2005)
    
    130 Cal.App.4th 1245
    , 1252.) In denying the motion, the court noted that the evidence
    had been presented in a somewhat unorthodox manner, with minimal direct examination
    before the prosecutor's playing of the video. However, the court determined that any
    issues for the defense regarding inconsistencies in her story were adequately protected by
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    his exercise of the right of confrontation. The court saw no reason to undo the jury's
    decision on the sexual impropriety counts.
    Later in the hearing, at sentencing, the court noted that the jury was necessarily an
    objective factfinder that had to evaluate the partisan witnesses, and it had conscientiously
    evaluated the evidence as shown by its many questions of the court. This record does not
    demonstrate any abuse of discretion in the order denying the new trial motion.
    D. Applicable Standards and Analysis: Confrontation Clause Claims
    Shaw alternatively argues the manner in which the evidence was presented at trial,
    as summarized above, operated to create confrontation clause violations. He points to the
    playing of the video while Doe was on the witness stand, before she had given more than
    minimal foundational testimony, as prematurely confirming her testimonial version and
    thwarting meaningful cross-examination. He claims there was error and it was harmful
    beyond a reasonable doubt. (Chapman v. California (1967) 
    386 U.S. 18
    ; Delaware v.
    Van Arsdall (1986) 
    475 U.S. 673
    , 681-684.)
    In analyzing such claims about the presentation of evidence, the appellate courts
    utilize an independent standard of review. (Roberto V., supra, 93 Cal.App.4th at
    pp. 1373-1374.) We apply the standards of Crawford, 
    supra,
     
    541 U.S. 36
    , which clarify
    that the confrontation clause "does not bar admission of a statement so long as the
    declarant is present at trial to defend or explain it." (Id. at p. 59, fn. 9; California v.
    Green, supra, 399 U.S. at pp. 158, 168; People v. Cage (2007) 
    40 Cal.4th 965
    , 991.) Doe
    was present at trial and her prior statements were admissible under a state law exception
    to the hearsay rule, Evidence Code section 1360. She had previously reviewed the video
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    a week before trial. Defense counsel's competency motion and in limine requests raised
    generalized foundational objections, which were properly overruled, as discussed above.
    In her testimony, Doe provided substantive testimony about how she remembered
    going to the hospital for her interview, and she confirmed after the playing of the video
    that that is what she said. She testified on direct, cross-, and redirect examination about
    her recollection of the events. " '[T]he Confrontation Clause guarantees an opportunity
    for effective cross-examination, not cross-examination that is effective in whatever way,
    and to whatever extent, the defense might wish.' " (Delaware v. Van Arsdall, 
    supra,
     475
    U.S. at p. 679, original italics; Pennsylvania v. Ritchie (1987) 
    480 U.S. 39
    , 53 ["Normally
    the right to confront one's accusers is satisfied if defense counsel receives wide latitude at
    trial to question witnesses."].) The cross-examination at trial questioned her perceptions
    and memory, and exposed some inconsistencies in her answers, which the jury was able
    to evaluate. (Davis v. Alaska (1974) 
    415 U.S. 308
    , 316.) On this record, constitutional
    standards were met and no Sixth Amendment error has been shown.
    II
    EXCLUSION OF EVIDENCE REGARDING POTENTIAL BIAS
    OR SUGGESTIBILITY; CUMULATIVE ERROR
    A. Evidence Code Section 352 Ruling; Arguments
    As already outlined, an issue arose at trial about the possible effect on Doe of
    Nancy's knowledge that her former stepdaughter M. had been raped or molested by
    Nancy's former husband A.C., the father of both girls. Defense counsel sought discovery
    about whether there were witnesses who could show Nancy reacted by engaging in
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    excessively frequent discussions with Doe about bad touching, such that Doe might have
    developed a "hypersexual awareness" of sexual terminology.
    The prosecutor brought a motion in limine to exclude such evidence, and the court
    conducted a hearing under Evidence Code section 402. Nancy testified that after she and
    her ex-husband separated in 2006, she learned from the mother of M. that A.C. had raped
    M. and was in jail. When Doe was little, Nancy told her that her dad, A.C., was in jail for
    "hurting his kids," without explaining (until later) what that meant. Nancy explained that
    once Doe reached day care age, Nancy routinely asked her whether anyone had touched
    her private parts in an inappropriate way.
    The prosecutor acknowledged that Shaw was justified in seeking permission to
    inquire into Nancy's prior conversations with Doe regarding inappropriate touching.
    However, the court limited the evidence in this regard, stating there were numerous levels
    of separation between the information about the ex-husband's assault on M. and the
    present case, so that information about it would have very little probative value. The
    court accordingly ruled that the genesis of the conversations between Nancy and Doe
    about inappropriate sexual touching was not relevant to or probative on the issues at trial,
    so it would be excluded under Evidence Code section 352.
    On appeal, Shaw contends this ruling was not only an abuse of discretion, but it
    further interfered with his right to fully confront the witnesses against him. He argues
    that evidence of M.'s sexual assault would have helped him explain why Nancy seemed
    to be out to get him as a "bad man," like her ex-husband was. Nancy repeatedly called
    Pimentel to try to get her to back up Nancy's story that Shaw was a bad man, but
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    Pimentel resisted those requests. Shaw also argues that more evidence on Nancy's family
    background would have allowed him to show why she was so persistent in questioning
    Doe every three or four months about bad touching. According to his expert's testimony,
    children like Doe are readily subject to such influence by their authority figures and they
    may mold their opinions to suit what they are told, which could lead to false accusations.
    Even assuming that Nancy was influenced by her former stepdaughter's bad
    experience, this evidence about what happened to M. was still remote and nonprobative
    on the issue of Doe's ability to communicate and explain what happened to her at Shaw's
    house, including on cross-examination. With respect to Nancy's motivations, the
    evidence did not show that she had a problem with men like Shaw up until the time Doe
    made her disclosures, as she had been friendly with him and Holster during the past
    months. The trial court had a reasonable basis to conclude that more inquiry into the ex-
    husband's guilt and Nancy's knowledge about it would degenerate into a " 'mini-trial' " on
    collateral issues that were too remote from Shaw's charges. (People v. Hamilton (2009)
    
    45 Cal.4th 863
    , 930 [evidence excludable if it requires a mini-trial and would be limited
    in its probative value]; People v. Contreras (2013) 
    58 Cal.4th 123
    , 152 [recognizing
    court's "wide latitude" to exclude collateral, irrelevant evidence].)
    Even with the ruling in place, Shaw was able to show that Nancy asked this type
    of question every few months, over a period of several years, both through her own
    testimony and that of Doe. His attorney suggested during closing argument that Nancy
    had some kind of agenda in reporting the offense, or she had somehow put things into
    Doe's head. The jurors could evaluate Nancy's behavior for the part it played as the main
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    influence in Doe's life. We conclude the ruling excluding further inquiry into the assault
    against M. by A.C. comported with the standards of Evidence Code section 352, because
    its probative value could reasonably be viewed as being substantially outweighed by the
    probability of "undue prejudice, of confusing the issues, or misleading the jury." (Ibid.,
    subd. (b).) Shaw has not shown an abuse of the trial court's "broad discretion" in making
    this evidentiary ruling. (People v. Lewis (2001) 
    26 Cal.4th 334
    , 374.)
    B. Confrontation Arguments
    In view of the exclusion of evidence concerning A.C.'s reported rape of Doe's half-
    sister M., Shaw makes related claims that he was prevented from fully exercising his
    Sixth Amendment rights to confront and cross-examine Nancy on all relevant issues.
    Although the Attorney General argues Shaw forfeited such a constitutional claim on
    appeal, we think the objections he raised at trial about Nancy's purported bias, interest, or
    motive in reporting the charges to police were broad in nature and arguably encompassed
    such constitutional claims on his ability to confront the witnesses against him. (See
    People v. Pearson (2013) 
    56 Cal.4th 393
    , 455 [a defendant should be given "wide
    latitude" in challenging the credibility of a prosecution witness].)
    Shaw argues not only that Nancy had a bias against him, based on her previous
    family experience, but also that such experience led her to question Doe excessively
    about bad touching. Shaw complains that the prosecutor argued in closing that Nancy
    had no motive to coach Doe to make false accusations, and Shaw claims that more
    extensive evidence about M.'s molestation would have helped him show Nancy had an
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    improper motive or agenda to make charges against him, such as getting even somehow
    with bad men in general.
    Pursuant to Evidence Code section 352, the trial court had the discretion to impose
    reasonable limits on the presentation of evidence, geared toward avoiding confusion of
    the issues or irrelevant inquiries. (People v. Pearson, supra, 
    56 Cal.4th 393
    , 455.) The
    trial court had a reasonable basis to conclude that Nancy's credibility was already being
    challenged, and that allowing further cross-examination on an event that was five years
    old, involving different individuals, would not have produced " 'a significantly different
    impression of [the witness's] credibility.' " (Ibid.; People v. Cornwell (2005) 
    37 Cal.4th 50
    , 95 [trial courts retain " 'wide latitude' " to impose limits on cross-examination on
    marginally relevant topics, consistent with confrontation clause principles].)
    Since Shaw was allowed to question Doe and Nancy about their prior
    conversations regarding the need to tell about any sexual touching, the jury was given
    some evidence with which to evaluate Nancy's "persistence" on the subject. Evidence
    that another child known to Nancy had been sexually assaulted by another individual,
    some years before, would not have materially assisted the jury in ascertaining the relevant
    facts in this case. Other prosecution evidence included Shaw's confrontation of Nancy at
    her house, which could arguably be considered as showing consciousness of guilt.
    (Delaware v. Van Arsdall, 
    supra,
     475 U.S. at p. 684 [prejudice analysis includes the
    importance of testimony and the extent of cross-examination allowed].) We decline to
    find that the trial court erred in this respect, and need not address harmless error issues.
    (See People v. Cage, 
    supra,
     40 Cal.4th at p. 991.) Since neither state evidentiary error or
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    constitutionally significant error occurred at Shaw's trial, we do not address cumulative
    error claims.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    HUFFMAN, Acting P. J.
    WE CONCUR:
    McDONALD, J.
    AARON, J.
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