People v. Barber CA4/1 ( 2022 )


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  • Filed 12/19/22 P. v. Barber CA4/1
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    COURT OF APPEAL, FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION ONE
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    THE PEOPLE,                                                          D079865
    Plaintiff and Respondent,
    v.                                                         (Super. Ct. No. FWV20004012)
    GREGORY WAYNE BARBER,
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of San Bernardino
    County, Shahla S. Sabet, Judge. Affirmed.
    Jennifer A. Gambale, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for
    Defendant and Appellant.
    Rob Bonta, Attorney General, Lance E. Winters, Chief Assistant
    Attorney General, Charles C. Ragland, Assistant Attorney General, Daniel B.
    Rogers and Amanda Lloyd, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and
    Respondent.
    I.
    INTRODUCTION
    Defendant Gregory Wayne Barber appeals from a judgment of
    conviction entered after a jury convicted him of various crimes related to the
    sexual abuse of his granddaughters.
    On appeal, Barber raises multiple contentions regarding to the
    admission of expert testimony from an investigating detective concerning
    how children typically disclose sexual abuse. Barber first argues that the
    trial court erred in permitting a detective to testify about how child sexual
    abuse victims commonly behave after having been sexually abused. Barber
    contends that this testimony was akin to expert testimony regarding Child
    Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome (CSAAS), and that a trial court
    should be required to hold a hearing to determine the scientific acceptance
    and reliability of such evidence under People v Kelly (1976) 
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    (Kelly) prior to admitting the testimony. Barber maintains that if the trial
    court had held such a hearing, the court would have necessarily concluded
    that CSAAS is not a scientific theory that is generally accepted in the
    relevant scientific community and would have excluded the testimony.
    Barber also contends with respect to this argument that because this
    evidence was “irrelevant and inflammatory” and not subject to Kelly’s
    reliability requirement, its admission rendered his trial fundamentally
    unfair.
    Second, Barber argues that, apart from the requirements of Kelly,
    CSAAS evidence generally should be determined to be inadmissible for all
    purposes because, according to Barber, such evidence fails to meet the
    requirement of reliability for expert testimony, as set forth in Evidence Code
    section 801.
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    Third, Barber contends that the trial court should have excluded the
    detective’s testimony concerning common behaviors of child sexual abuse
    victims because there is no longer a need to dispel misconceptions harbored
    by laypersons about the behavior of victims of sexual abuse—the purpose for
    which such evidence has been deemed admissible. Barber maintains that the
    public “no longer harbors misconceptions about the behavior of sexually
    abused children.” (Boldface and capitalization omitted.)
    Fourth, Barber claims that the trial court erred in permitting the
    detective to testify regarding common behaviors of child victims of sexual
    abuse because the detective’s expert testimony “closely tracked the facts of
    this case.” Barber argues that this “allowed the jury to apply the syndrome
    to the facts of the case and conclude that both [granddaughters] were
    sexually abused,” which is an impermissible use of such testimony.
    Barber’s last contention related to the detective’s expert testimony
    regarding sexual abuse disclosures is that the trial court committed
    instructional error in failing to provide a limiting instruction informing the
    jury that it could consider the detective’s testimony for the sole purpose of
    deciding whether the victims’ conduct was not inconsistent with the conduct
    of a person who had been sexually abused, and not for the purpose of
    determining whether the sexual abuse had occurred.1
    In a final argument, Barber contends that the trial court abused its
    discretion in allowing the parties to make additional closing arguments after
    1     The People contend that Barber failed to request this limiting
    instruction and that he has therefore forfeited the contention on appeal. In
    response, Barber asserts that the trial court had a sua sponte duty to provide
    the limiting instruction, or, alternatively, that his trial counsel rendered
    ineffective assistance in failing to request the instruction. We address these
    contentions in our discussion of this argument.
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    the jury indicated during deliberations that it had a question concerning why
    multiple counts were alleged in connection with what the jury perceived to be
    a single act. The People contend that Barber forfeited this argument by
    failing to make a specific and timely objection. Barber argues that, to the
    extent his trial counsel failed to properly object, such failure constituted
    ineffective assistance.
    Because we conclude that none of Barber’s contentions warrants
    reversal, we affirm the judgment.
    II.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
    A. Factual background
    1. The prosecution’s case
    Barber and his wife had three children, two boys and one girl, Mary
    Doe. One of Barber’s sons had three children of his own—one son and two
    daughters. One of Barber’s granddaughters, Jane Doe 1 was born in 2006,
    and the other, Jane Doe 2, was born in 2007. When Jane Doe 1 was born, her
    family was living with Barber and his wife in Chino, California. Although
    Barber’s son’s family subsequently moved out, the son and his children
    returned to Barber’s home in 2011 or 2012, after the son and his wife
    divorced. Barber sometimes babysat Jane Does 1 and 2 at the house in
    Chino.
    a. Mary Doe discloses that Barber abused her when she was a
    child and he serves time in prison for that abuse
    In December 2016, when Mary Doe was an adult, she disclosed to a
    friend, and then to her younger brother, that her father, Barber, had
    molested her when she was a child. Mary Doe later disclosed the abuse to
    her mother, who appeared shocked by what Mary Doe divulged. The day
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    after she disclosed the abuse to her mother, Mary Doe reported the sexual
    abuse to police.
    According to Mary Doe, Barber began molesting her when she was in
    kindergarten. The abuse occurred principally in her parents’ bedroom, but it
    also occurred in the garage, shower and a family car. Mary Doe stated that
    the abuse occurred even when other members of the family were at home,
    and sometimes when she was in bed with her mother and father while her
    mother was sleeping.
    When Barber abused Mary Doe in the garage, Barber would lock the
    door. There were instances when Mary Doe’s mother tried to get into the
    garage while the abuse was taking place, but the door was locked. Barber
    would stop molesting Mary Doe and unlock the door; Mary Doe’s mother
    would be upset that the door had been locked.
    According to Mary Doe, she became accustomed to the manner in which
    Barber would molest her. It happened in the same way, generally, each time,
    and it usually occurred multiple times a week. Barber would start by taking
    off Mary Doe’s shirt and begin touching her breasts. He would take off her
    pants or shorts and his own clothes, so that both of them would be completely
    undressed. Barber would touch Mary Doe’s vagina with his fingers. He
    would have her touch his erect penis. Mary Doe remembered that Barber
    would “ask [her to] get a towel or get a sock or something out of the hamper
    so he could clean himself with [it].” Other times, Barber would “guide [her]
    down” and “that was [her] cue” that he wanted her to orally copulate him.
    Barber also orally copulated Mary Doe.
    The molestation stopped when Mary Doe was 13 years old. Mary Doe
    had begun to understand “the dynamic [of] relationships between a boy and a
    girl,” and at that point she “realized that what was happening -- what [her]
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    relationship was with [her] father wasn’t normal.” Mary Doe told her father
    that she “didn’t want to anymore, and that if he didn’t stop, that [she] would
    tell [her] mother.” In response, Barber told Mary Doe that “it was a secret”
    and “nobody could know.” Barber stopped the abuse, and Mary Doe did not
    tell anyone about the abuse for many years.
    Mary Doe was aware that her aunt had disclosed that Mary Doe’s
    grandfather had abused the aunt, and the aunt’s family “mistreated” her
    after her disclosure. When Mary Doe eventually disclosed Barber’s abuse,
    her brother was “angry” with her, and her mother “questioned [her] a lot and,
    kind of, defended [Barber] a little bit.”
    After Mary Doe revealed the sexual abuse to police, a detective asked
    her to participate in a recorded telephone call during which she would try to
    get Barber to confess to the abuse. Mary Doe called Barber from her cell
    phone and confronted Barber about the abuse. Barber admitted to the sexual
    abuse, and began crying and “blam[ing]” his wife for failing to “giv[e] him
    affection.” Barber told Mary Doe that he had hoped that she “would forget
    about it.” Barber admitted to her that “it was exciting for him, [and] that he
    thought it would be exciting for [her], as well.”
    After this telephone call took place, Barber was arrested. Not long
    after Barber’s arrest he was released on bail, and he eventually reached a
    plea deal. He began serving a prison term in connection with his abuse of
    Mary Doe in September 2017.
    b. Barber’s son begins to suspect that Barber sexually abused
    his granddaughters, Jane Does 1 and 2
    Barber’s son testified about a few incidents that caused him to be
    concerned that Barber may have molested his granddaughters. According to
    Barber’s son, one incident that aroused his suspicion occurred when Jane
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    Doe 1 and Barber were alone in the garage. The only door to the garage was
    locked; Barber’s son knocked on the door for about 5-10 minutes before
    Barber unlocked the door. Barber said at the time that he had been under
    the car working on it and that Jane Doe 1 had been playing a game.
    Although Barber’s son was not entirely comfortable with that explanation, he
    decided to “let that go.”
    The second incident occurred when Barber was babysitting Jane Does 1
    and 2. Barber’s son walked into the bedroom where all three of them were
    and saw one of his daughters wearing “little booty shorts” and “doing
    cartwheels in front of [Barber], fairly close.” According to Barber’s son,
    Barber was sitting in a rocking chair and “staring at her, kind of
    inappropriately.”
    These incidents occurred prior to Mary Doe’s reporting Barber’s sexual
    abuse of her to police, and Barber’s son was not aware at that time that
    Barber had sexually abused Mary Doe.
    c. After Barber’s arrest, Jane Does 1 and 2 were interviewed by
    a professional at the Children’s Assessment Center; both
    denied having been molested
    After Barber was arrested for molesting Mary Doe, someone in law
    enforcement told Barber’s son not to discuss the matter with Jane Does 1 and
    2 and not to ask them whether they had been molested, so as not to
    “influence the girls one way or another.” Instead, in or around January 2017,
    Jane Does 1 and 2 were interviewed at the Children’s Assessment Center.
    The interviewer asked Jane Doe 1 “generally, has anyone done anything” to
    her, but did not specifically ask her whether Barber had ever sexually abused
    her. Jane Doe 1 “was scared,” and told the interviewer that no one “had done
    anything to [her].” An interviewer asked Jane Doe 2 whether she had been
    touched inappropriately. She told the interviewer that she had not been
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    touched inappropriately because she did not want anyone to think “she is so
    gross.” The interviewer did ask Jane Doe 2 whether Barber had touched her
    inappropriately, but she “didn’t want to talk about it at that time.”
    d. Jane Does 1 and 2 disclose Barber’s sexual abuse to family
    members
    Around December 2019, approximately three years after Barber was
    arrested for molesting Mary Doe, Barber’s wife and son told Jane Does 1 and
    2 that the reason that Barber was in prison was because he had sexually
    molested their aunt, Mary Doe. Jane Doe 1 recalled being “shocked” because
    she thought “it just only happened to [her] and Jane Doe 2.” After Barber’s
    molestation of Mary Doe was disclosed to Jane Does 1 and 2, the girls talked
    with each other privately. Jane Doe 1 told Jane Doe 2 that she was going to
    divulge that Barber had sexually molested Jane Doe 1. Jane Doe 2 asked
    Jane Doe 1 not to say anything about what he had done to Jane Doe 2.
    Later that day, Jane Doe 1 went to her grandmother and told her that
    Barber had, in fact, touched her inappropriately. Jane Doe 1 testified that
    she finally disclosed the abuse because she had been keeping it all inside and
    was “at [her] breaking point.” Jane Doe 1 thought that her grandmother did
    not believe her at first, but her grandmother hugged her and told her it would
    be “okay.”
    Approximately 20 minutes later, Jane Doe 2 also revealed to her
    grandmother that Barber had touched her inappropriately. Jane Doe 2
    testified that she got to the point of being willing to tell her grandmother
    because she felt like “they would have believed me” because “it [had]
    happened to somebody else[,]” as well. Jane Doe 2’s grandmother hugged
    both girls and said, “[I]t’s not your fault.”
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    Barber’s wife told her son, the girls’ father, what the girls had told her.
    The girls also disclosed the abuse to their father at a later time. When the
    girls told their father about the abuse, they were “really quiet” and appeared
    to be “really ashamed of themselves.” Barber’s son felt angry at Barber and
    himself. However, neither the girls’ grandmother nor their father reported
    Barber’s abuse of the girls to police. The girls’ father testified that he wanted
    to protect them from “more trauma” that could result from “this trial process”
    and because he knew “it was going to be their word versus [Barber’s].”
    Mary Doe testified that she did not learn about Barber’s sexual abuse
    of Jane Does 1 and 2 until August 2020. According to Mary Doe, she was
    babysitting the girls and another niece when the two girls started crying and
    told her they wanted to talk to her about something upstairs in their room.
    Once upstairs, the girls revealed to Mary Doe that Barber had sexually
    abused them.2
    After she learned about the abuse from Jane Does 1 and 2, Mary Doe
    confronted her brother and mother. Mary Doe told them that she was aware
    that Jane Does 1 and 2 had disclosed the sexual abuse months earlier and yet
    their grandmother and father, Mary Doe’s mother and brother, had done
    nothing about it. Mary Doe told her brother that doing nothing was not
    helping the girls.
    Later that week, with her brother’s approval, Mary Doe took Jane
    Does 1 and 2 to a police station. Jane Doe 1 testified that she wanted to go to
    2     Jane Doe 1 recalled her first disclosure to Mary Doe differently.
    According to Jane Doe 1, approximately two months after the girls disclosed
    the abuse to their grandmother and father, Mary Doe walked in on Jane
    Doe 1 cutting herself with a razor in her bedroom. Mary Doe began talking
    with Jane Doe 1 about why she was harming herself. Jane Doe 2 came into
    the room at some point, and the three of them had a discussion. Jane Doe 1
    told Mary Doe that Barber had touched her “inappropriately.”
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    the police station with her aunt that day because she “wanted [Barber] to get
    what he deserved for taking [her childhood] away from [her.]”
    e. Jane Does 1 and 2 participate in interviews at the Children’s
    Assessment Center for a second time and disclose Barber’s
    sexual abuse
    After Mary Doe took the girls to talk with police about the abuse, the
    same interviewer from the Children’s Assessment Center who had
    interviewed them in January 2017 interviewed them again on December 10,
    2020.3
    Jane Doe 1 told the interviewer that she recalled having been
    interviewed in 2017, but she did not remember what she said during that
    interview. In this second interview, Jane Doe 1 described how Barber had
    sexually abused her from the time she was four or five years old. She
    disclosed that Barber touched her chest and vagina while they were in his
    bedroom and the garage, and that he told her not to tell anybody or
    something bad would happen. Jane Doe 1 told the interviewer that Barber
    would use either his hands or fingers, or his penis, to rub against her. She
    indicated that Jane Doe 2 was sometimes present while Barber was abusing
    Jane Doe 1 and would have to watch the abuse, and that Barber would
    sometimes abuse Jane Doe 2 in front of Jane Doe 1.
    Jane Doe 1 also indicated to the interviewer that she sometimes slept
    in a bed with Barber and her grandmother, and that Barber sometimes
    abused her in the bed while her grandmother was sleeping. Jane Doe 1 also
    told the interviewer that Barber would call her into the garage, lock the door,
    and start to touch her inappropriately. Jane Doe 1 mentioned that
    sometimes her father would ask “why is the door [to the garage] locked,” and
    3     The video recordings of these interviews were played for the jury.
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    Barber would say that he “was just playing a game with [Jane Doe 1].” She
    believed that her father “didn’t think anything of it.”
    Jane Doe 1 described various types of touching that occurred when
    Barber would move or remove her clothes. She explained how Barber
    touched himself while he abused her. She described how Barber would
    ejaculate when he did this. Jane Doe 1 explained that this conduct happened
    more than once, and said that Barber did these things while they were “in the
    room, the garage or in his truck.”
    Jane Doe 1 also recalled times when Barber would make her orally
    copulate him. She recalled that this happened more than once, and referred
    to various locations where it occurred, including outside of a grocery store or
    a Dollar Tree store, in the garage and in the bedroom. Jane Doe 1 also
    described incidents when Barber would orally copulate her.
    Jane Doe 1 told the interviewer that Barber would make her and Jane
    Doe 2 watch pornography on his phone with him, and when someone came
    into the room, he would press a button to make it look like they were just
    listening to music. Jane Doe 1 indicated that Barber sometimes took
    photographs while he was abusing her.
    Jane Doe 1 described to the interviewer how she decided to tell what
    had happened to her only after she had become depressed and suicidal and
    had been talking with a therapist. Jane Doe 1 had not even told the
    therapist what Barber had done to her. Jane Doe 1 was scared for herself
    and her sister when she learned that Barber would be released from prison,
    and she was concerned that he might move back into the home with her
    grandmother.
    During Jane Doe 2’s interview, Jane Doe 2 acknowledged that she had
    lied in 2017 when she denied that Barber had touched her inappropriately.
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    Jane Doe 2 explained that she was afraid that her family would get mad at
    her or would not love her anymore if she told them what had occurred. She
    proceeded to describe to the interviewer the ways in which Barber had
    sexually abused her for years.
    For example, Jane Doe 2 described how Barber would make her orally
    copulate him. She also described how Barber would orally copulate her. She
    mentioned having witnessed Barber do these things with Jane Doe 1, as well,
    and she discussed having seen Barber touch Jane Doe 1 inappropriately with
    his hands and fingers. Jane Doe 2 told the interviewer, similar to what Jane
    Doe 1 disclosed in her interview, that Barber would make her and Jane Doe 1
    watch sex videos on his tablet.
    Jane Doe 2 described how Barber would sometimes touch her
    inappropriately while they were in the living room watching a movie or while
    she was taking a bath. Like Jane Doe 1, Jane Doe 2 also described instances
    of sexual abuse that occurred while she was in bed with Barber and her
    grandmother.
    Jane Doe 2 also described incidents when Barber would commit sex
    acts with the girls while they were in a vehicle in a parking lot of a store, and
    indicated that during some of these incidents, Barber would ejaculate.
    Jane Doe 2 told the interviewer that the abuse ended when Barber
    went to prison, which was just before she started fifth grade. She explained
    that no one initially told her or her sister why Barber was in prison; they
    finally told her the reason he was in prison in December 2019. Jane Doe 2
    told the interviewer that after her grandmother and father told the girls that
    Barber had sexually abused Mary Doe, Jane Doe 1 told her grandmother that
    Barber had also molested them.
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    f. The trial testimony of Jane Does 1 and 2
    At trial, Jane Doe 1 testified in a manner that was generally consistent
    with the statements she had made to the interviewer during her January
    2017 interview. Jane Doe 1 testified that Barber touched her inappropriately
    “[q]uite often” while they lived at the house in Chino, starting when she was
    four years old and continuing until Barber went to prison, which was when
    Jane Doe 1 was about 10 years old. Jane Doe 1 explained that she and Jane
    Doe 2 would often sleep in their grandparents’ bedroom, and that they would
    sleep on either side of Barber. She said that Barber would take her and her
    sister to buy toys and candy, and that he babysat them in the afternoons
    when their grandmother was at work. She indicated that Barber would
    touch her vagina with his fingers, and that this happened more than once,
    both over and under her clothes. She further stated that he touched her
    breasts more than once. Jane Doe 1 also testified that Barber would orally
    copulate her, and that this happened more than one time, and that he also
    would make her touch his penis with her hands. Barber also made Jane
    Doe 1 orally copulate him.
    Jane Doe 1 testified that Barber would engage in this conduct when
    they were in the bedroom, garage, and the car. According to Jane Doe 1,
    Barber spent a lot of time working on the car in the garage, and the
    inappropriate touching often took place in the garage. On more than one
    occasion, Jane Doe 1’s father tried to get into the garage while the door was
    locked when Barber and Jane Doe 1 were in the garage and Barber was
    abusing her.
    Jane Doe 1 testified that on some occasions when Barber was touching
    her inappropriately, Jane Doe 2 was also present. Jane Doe 1 explained that
    she also witnessed Barber touch Jane Doe 2 inappropriately on multiple
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    occasions. Jane Doe 1 also explained that she and her sister were sometimes
    together when Barber would sexually abuse them in the car during a trip to
    get toys or candy.
    Jane Doe 1 testified that after Barber engaged in sex acts with her, he
    would tell her not to tell anyone about it.
    At trial, Jane Doe 2 testified that she could not remember the first time
    that Barber had touched her inappropriately, but she indicated that she was
    “really young” when the abuse started. According to Jane Doe 2, Barber
    sexually abused her “on a weekly basis” while they were living in the same
    house with him.
    Jane Doe 2 testified that Barber would use his hands and fingers to
    touch her inappropriately, and would make her touch him inappropriately.
    Jane Doe 2 further testified that Barber made her orally copulate him, and
    she described incidents during which he orally copulated her. Jane Doe 2
    indicated that these types of incidents happened “multiple times throughout”
    her childhood.
    Jane Doe 2 indicated that at times, Jane Doe 1 would be in the garage
    while Barber sexually abused Jane Doe 2, but at other times Jane Doe 2 was
    alone with him. At trial, Jane Doe 2 testified in a manner similar to Jane
    Doe 1 about how Barber would touch her inappropriately while they were in
    his and her grandmother’s bedroom, including times when she was in the bed
    with both Barber and her grandmother. Jane Doe 2 tried to wake up her
    grandmother by kicking her, but her grandmother remained asleep.
    Jane Doe 2 testified that the inappropriate touching also occurred when
    the girls were in the bathtub together.
    Jane Doe 2 testified that Barber would show the girls pornographic
    videos on his tablet before he would molest them. Jane Doe 2 testified that
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    most of the videos he showed them depicted adults engaged in sex acts, but
    one of the videos she remembered showed a child with her father. Jane Doe 2
    indicated that the people in the videos were doing the same kinds of acts that
    Barber was doing with Jane Does 1 and 2.
    Jane Doe 2 testified that Barber told her not to tell anyone about the
    touching “or else,” and even though he “was calm about it,” she nevertheless
    felt scared that he would do something bad to her or her sister. Jane Doe 2
    also testified that she did not tell anyone about the sexual abuse because she
    was scared that everyone would think of her “differently” and that they
    would think that what was happening to her was her fault.
    2. The defense
    The defense called as a witness the detective who was assigned to Mary
    Doe’s case in 2016. The detective testified that Barber’s electronic devices
    were searched in 2016 and 2017, and at that time law enforcement officers
    found no pornography or photographs of other victims. The detective also
    confirmed that Jane Does 1 and 2 participated in forensic interviews after
    Mary Doe’s disclosure in an effort to determine whether they were also
    victims of Barber’s sexual abuse.
    In the course of presenting this evidence, Barber’s attorney played four
    video recordings of the interviews of Jane Does 1 and 2 for the jury. In the
    first interview, which took place on November 2, 2020, Jane Doe 1 discussed
    Barber’s sexual abuse with officers from the Chino Police Department. The
    second interview played for the jury was Jane Doe 2’s interview with officers
    on the same date. The other two videos defense counsel played for the jury
    were the interviews of Jane Does 1 and 2 by an interviewer at the Children’s
    Assessment Center on January 3, 2017. During these interviews, both girls
    denied that anyone had ever touched them inappropriately.
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    Barber also testified in his own defense. Barber admitted that he had
    sexually abused Mary Doe, just as she testified. He denied, however, that he
    had sexually abused Jane Does 1 and 2. According to Barber, while he did
    take the girls to the store and buy them things and “spoil them,” he did not
    commit sex acts with them. Barber also claimed that he could not have
    abused them in the garage during the afternoon, as the girls had testified,
    because he was not at the house then. According to Barber, contrary to the
    testimony of Jane Doe 1 and Jane Doe 2, his wife would have been home
    between 3:00 p.m., when the girls got out of school, and 6:00 p.m.
    When asked why he thought Jane Does 1 and 2 had made sexual abuse
    allegations against him, Barber theorized that his daughter, Mary Doe, was
    “manipulating them” because she was “pissed off” that he was being released
    from prison much earlier than she had expected.
    Nevertheless, Barber admitted on cross-examination that he had tried
    to minimize his behavior with respect to Mary Doe by telling her in their
    pretext telephone call that his abuse against her had lasted for only weeks or
    months, rather than years. He also conceded that, although he did not recall
    having done so, he had told Mary Doe seven times during the telephone call
    that he had engaged in inappropriate conduct with her because it excited
    him. He also had to concede that he had told the investigating officer the
    same thing at least six times, and that he told investigators that Mary Doe
    seemed to like the abuse. Barber acknowledged that he did not engage in
    further touching of Mary Doe after she started to grow pubic hair. Further,
    Barber admitted that after he stopped molesting Mary Doe, he would search
    for what he referred to as “daddy porn” and “baby-sitter porn” because he
    “still had that urge that [he] couldn’t fulfill with Mary Doe anymore,” and
    because it was difficult to stop doing something that “excited [him] so much.”
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    Barber had told a detective that he believed that the girls who appeared in
    the pornography he watched “looked very young, but they were actually
    older.” He admitted that the girls looked “ten and eleven,” and that girls that
    age were “part of [his] sexual preference.”
    B. Procedural background
    The San Bernardino County District Attorney filed an information
    charging Barber with 10 counts of sexual penetration or oral copulation with
    a child 10 years old or younger (Pen. Code,4 §§ 288.7, subd. (b); counts 1-4,
    12-17), one count of sexual intercourse with a child 10 years old or younger
    (§§ 288.7, subd. (a), 1170, subd. (h)(3); count 5), and 12 counts of committing
    a lewd act upon a child under age 14, (§§ 288, subd. (a), 667.71, 667.61,
    subds. (j)(2), (e), 1170, subd. (h)(3); counts 6-11, 18-23). The information also
    included sentencing enhancement allegations, including that Barber was
    previously convicted of violating section 288.5 and was therefore a habitual
    sex offender under section 667.71, and that he committed the offenses against
    multiple victims under the age of 14, under section 667.61, subdivisions (j)(2)
    and (e).
    A jury convicted Barber on all counts except counts 5 and 17 and found
    true the multiple victim enhancements. Barber admitted having suffered the
    alleged prior conviction under section 667.71.
    The trial court sentenced Barber to a total term of 110 years to life in
    prison.
    Barber filed a timely notice of appeal.
    4     Further statutory references are to the Penal Code unless otherwise
    indicated.
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    III.
    DISCUSSION
    A. Barber’s contentions related to the admission of evidence that he
    contends amounted to evidence of Child Sexual Abuse Accommodation
    Syndrome (CSAAS)
    Barber raises five arguments related to the trial court’s decision to
    allow the prosecution to elicit testimony from a police detective regarding his
    training and experience with respect to the manner in which child sexual
    abuse victims tend to disclose the abuse. Specifically, the court permitted the
    detective to testify concerning the delay in disclosure that often occurs, as
    well as the fact that child victims sometimes initially provide incomplete or
    inconsistent statements and slowly recall details over time. Four of Barber’s
    arguments relate to why he believes the trial court abused its discretion in
    allowing Trosper to testify as to these subjects. In his fifth argument, Barber
    contends that even if the trial court did not err in admitting this evidence,
    the court erred in failing to provide an instruction limiting the jury’s use of
    this evidence.
    1. Additional background
    Chino Police Department Detective Scott Trosper testified as an expert
    witness for the prosecution. At the time of trial, Trosper had been a police
    officer for 20 years, two of which he spent as a detective. He had investigated
    over 100 child sexual abuse cases, and had directly interviewed or observed
    interviews of between 50 and 60 child victims.
    The prosecutor asked Detective Trosper whether, based on his training
    and experience, it was common for child victims of sexual abuse not to report
    the abuse immediately after it first occurred, or to initially deny the abuse
    when first asked about it. Trosper indicated that in his experience, this was
    “absolutely” common. Trosper also testified that, based on his training and
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    experience, it is common for children who have been sexually abused to
    continue to spend time with their abuser.
    Detective Trosper stated that in his experience with child sexual abuse
    cases, it is typical for a child victim to be interviewed or questioned by several
    different people, such as police officers, a forensic interviewer, someone from
    the Children’s Assessment Center, and later, by individuals in a court
    setting. When asked about his experience with investigations of child sexual
    abuse and whether child victims typically “disclose every single detail to
    every single person who interviews them,” Detective Trosper answered, “No.”
    He noted that child victims have “memories [that] are sometimes clouded,”
    such that while a victim might remember one incident “extremely clearly,”
    the victim’s memory of another incident or other incidents might be more
    vague. Also, a child might have a clearer memory of a particular incident
    when interviewed on a different occasion.
    Detective Trosper’s expert testimony regarding the things that he had
    learned through his training and experience with respect to child sexual
    abuse victims and their disclosures of the abuse comprises approximately
    three pages of reporter’s transcript. After Detective Trosper provided
    testimony regarding his training and experience regarding disclosures made
    by child sexual abuse victims, generally, he was questioned about his
    involvement in the investigation into Barber’s abuse of Jane Does 1 and 2,
    and what investigators learned from the interviews of the two girls at the
    Children’s Assessment Center. This testimony comprises approximately 20
    pages of reporter’s transcript; in addition, the prosecutor played video
    recordings of the girls’ interviews for the jury during Detective Trosper’s
    testimony. Detective Trosper was not asked to express his opinion as to
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    whether the disclosures made by Jane Does 1 and 2 comported with the
    typical modes of disclosure by child sexual abuse victims as a class.
    2. Analysis
    a. Barber’s challenges to the admissibility of Detective Trosper’s
    expert testimony
    The first four arguments set out in Barber’s opening brief challenge the
    trial court’s admission of Detective Trosper’s expert testimony regarding the
    nature of disclosures of sexual abuse by child victims of such abuse.
    i. Defense counsel failed to object to the admission of the
    expert testimony on any of the grounds raised on appeal,
    and thereby forfeited these contentions
    The People point out that Barber failed to object to the prosecutor’s
    questioning of Detective Trosper regarding his experience with child victims
    of sexual abuse on any of the grounds that he raises on appeal, and that as a
    result Barber has forfeited these contentions. We agree.
    A judgment shall not be reversed based on the erroneous admission of
    evidence unless “[t]here appears of record an objection to or a motion to
    exclude or to strike the evidence that was timely made and so stated as to
    make clear the specific ground of the objection or motion.” (Evid. Code, § 353,
    subd. (a).) The failure of counsel to state a timely and specific objection on
    the same ground raised on appeal forfeits that ground. (People v.
    Demetrulias (2006) 
    39 Cal.4th 1
    , 20-22 (Demetrulias); People v. Partida
    (2005) 
    37 Cal.4th 428
    , 433-434 (Partida).) “ ‘The reason for the requirement
    [that a specific objection must be made] is manifest: a specifically grounded
    objection to a defined body of evidence serves to prevent error. It allows the
    trial judge to consider excluding the evidence or limiting its admission to
    avoid possible prejudice. It also allows the proponent of the evidence to lay
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    additional foundation, modify the offer of proof, or take other steps designed
    to minimize the prospect of reversal.’ ” (Partida, at p. 434.)
    Barber did not object to Detective Trosper’s expert testimony on any of
    the grounds that he raises on appeal. While Barber’s attorney did object four
    times during this portion of Detective Trosper’s testimony, none of the
    objections mentioned or even touched on the grounds raised on appeal. First,
    when the prosecutor asked Detective Trosper, “And have you also spoken to
    children who initially deny being molested the first time they’re spoken to,
    and then later disclosed sexual abuse?”, defense counsel objected on the
    grounds that the question was “[l]eading and outside the scope of his
    expertise.” The trial court overruled the objection.
    Second, defense counsel objected to the following question on the
    ground that it was “leading”: “And based on your training and experience, is
    it common for a victim, a child victim, to not disclose some of the abuse?” The
    trial court sustained this objection and the prosecutor rephrased the question
    to ask, “Based on your training and experience, can you talk about how
    disclosures can be made when there [are] multiple interviews?” Third, in
    response to a question about how disclosures might be made when a victim is
    interviewed multiple times, Detective Trosper responded, “These interviews
    are obviously difficult for the children, and their memories are sometimes
    clouded, at least in my experience.” Defense counsel objected on the ground
    that the detective’s answer involved “[s]peculation.” The trial court overruled
    this objection and permitted Detective Trosper’s answer to stand, and also
    allowed Detective Trosper to complete his answer.
    Finally, defense counsel objected on relevance grounds when Detective
    Trosper began to discuss the facts of a different, “current” case on which he
    was working. The trial court sustained the relevance objection and
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    admonished Detective Trosper to answer in generalizations and to avoid
    discussing other cases.
    A review of these objections demonstrates that Barber’s attorney did
    not object to Detective Trosper providing his opinions, based on his training
    and experience, about how child victims of sexual abuse tend not to disclose
    the abuse right away and sometimes disclose in bits and pieces over time.
    Nevertheless, in his reply brief, Barber suggests that the “thrust” of his
    attorney’s objections was “that Trosper’s testimony concerning the way . . .
    child sexual abuse victims commonly act could not reliably be used by the
    jury in reaching a verdict in this case.” As we have described, the record does
    not support Barber’s characterization of his trial counsel’s objections. It is
    therefore clear that Barber has forfeited the arguments that he raises on
    appeal regarding the admission of Detective Trosper’s expert opinions about
    the nature of child sexual abuse victims’ disclosures.
    ii. Even if not forfeited, Barber’s challenges fail on the
    merits
    In any event, even if not forfeited, Barber’s contentions challenging the
    trial court’s admission of Detective Trosper’s expert opinion on child sexual
    abuse victim disclosure patterns are without merit.
    A. Kelly
    In his first argument, Barber contends that Detective Trosper’s
    testimony amounted to evidence equivalent to testimony regarding Child
    Sexual Abuse Accommodation Syndrome (CSAAS), and that as such,
    Detective Trosper’s expert testimony must meet the same requirements as
    CSAAS testimony in order to be admissible. He asserts, that CSAAS
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    testimony should be subjected to the test for a new scientific method or
    theory, as set out in Kelly, supra, 
    17 Cal.3d 24
    , in order to be admissible.5
    5      The People dispute that Detective Trosper’s testimony should be
    considered to be CSAAS evidence. According to the People, “Detective
    Trosper did not testify about CSAAS,” and his testimony was limited instead
    “to his own personal observations on the topic of disclosure based on other
    cases he had investigated.” The People contend that under Evidence Code
    section 720, subdivision (a), a trial court may permit a person “to testify as an
    expert if [the individual] has special knowledge, skill, experience, training, or
    education sufficient to qualify him as an expert on the subject to which his
    testimony relates,” and that the trial court’s determination that Detective
    Trosper qualified as an expert about child sexual abuse victim disclosures
    during investigative interviews is subject to review for an abuse of discretion
    and should not be disturbed. According to the People, the trial court did not
    abuse its discretion in permitting Detective Trosper to testify regarding the
    disclosure patterns of child victims based on his many years of training and
    experience in both interviewing victims and observing others interview them
    while investigating child sexual abuse cases.
    Although we agree that permitting a detective to testify regarding a
    topic for which he or she has particularized training and experience does not
    offend the normal rules for admitting expert testimony, many of the same
    concerns that courts have addressed with respect to the admission of CSAAS
    evidence through experts in the mental health field exist with respect to
    Detective Trosper’s testimony. Trosper testified in general terms about
    common myths and misconceptions regarding how child sexual abuse victims
    tend to report or disclose the abuse, including observations that victims often
    initially deny having been abused, and that their disclosures may occur at
    different times and over a lengthy period of time. As such, portions of
    Detective Trosper’s testimony were, effectively, consistent with CSAAS
    research and theory. (See, e.g., People v. Bowker (1988) 
    203 Cal.App.3d 385
    ,
    389 & fn. 3 (Bowker) [first articulated in 1983, CSAAS has five stages—
    secrecy, helplessness, entrapment and accommodation, delayed disclosure,
    and retraction].) We therefore assume that Detective Trosper’s testimony
    was, effectively, akin to CSAAS evidence and will therefore address Barber’s
    contentions on the subject. However, to the extent that certain of Barber’s
    arguments highlight the distinction between a detective testifying as an
    expert based on his professional experience and observations and a clinician
    testifying as an expert about the common behaviors of child molestation
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    We disagree with Barber’s contention that the admissibility of
    Detective Trosper’s expert opinions regarding child victim disclosures should
    have been assessed under the Kelly rule, and that, under proper application
    of that rule, the testimony should have been excluded.
    The Kelly rule “conditions the admissibility of evidence based on a new
    scientific method of proof on a showing that the technique has been generally
    accepted as reliable in the scientific community in which it developed.”
    (People v. Shirley (1982) 
    31 Cal.3d 18
    , 34.) The rule applies “only to expert
    testimony ‘based, in whole or part, on a technique, process, or theory which is
    new to science and, even more so, the law.’ ” (People v. Lapenias (2021)
    
    67 Cal.App.5th 162
    , 173 (Lapenias).) Additionally, the rule applies only if
    “the unproven technique or procedure appears in both name and description
    to provide some definitive truth which the expert need only accurately
    recognize and relay to the jury. The most obvious examples are machines or
    procedures which analyze physical data.” (People v. Stoll (1989) 
    49 Cal.3d 1136
    , 1156.)
    The argument that Barber puts forward has been rejected by other
    courts, including recently in Lapenias, supra, 67 Cal.App.5th at p. 173. The
    Lapenias court explained, “[T]he theory of CSAAS is not new. [Citation.]
    Further, CSAAS testimony does not purport to provide a definitive truth;
    rather, the expert testimony attempts to disabuse jurors of misconceptions
    they might hold about the conduct of children who have been sexually
    abused. In short, expert CSAAS testimony is not ‘ “ ‘scientific’ ” evidence’
    subject to the Kelly rule.” (Ibid.) We agree with this analysis. (See also
    victims based on scientific or academic research or theories (i.e., “typical”
    CSAAS evidence), we will acknowledge that distinction.
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    People v. Munch (2020) 
    52 Cal.App.5th 464
    , 472-473 (Munch) [rejecting
    challenge to CSAAS evidence under the Kelly rule].)
    In addition, the fact that Detective Trosper was testifying about his
    own experiences and observations of child sexual abuse victims demonstrates
    that there was no reason to assess this particular expert testimony under
    Kelly. Detective Trosper was not testifying about a psychological syndrome,
    theory, or method; instead he discussed his own observations of child sexual
    abuse victims’ disclosures of that abuse, all of which were based solely on his
    many years of training and experience with respect to child sexual abuse
    investigations. Expert testimony based on an individual’s professional
    experience, when presented without reference to a diagnosis or defined
    syndrome or any other scientific or academic method, is not likely to mislead
    a jury based on an aura of scientific infallibility, and is not subject to the
    “ ‘additional screening procedures’ ” of the Kelly test. (See Munch, supra,
    52 Cal.App.5th at p. 473.)
    In setting out the argument that CSAAS evidence should be subject to
    a Kelly analysis, Barber also contends that the trial court’s admission of
    Detective Trosper’s expert testimony regarding child sexual abuse disclosure
    patterns, without application of the Kelly rule for establishing its reliability,
    violated due process because it “rendered [the] trial fundamentally unfair.”
    Barber acknowledges that this argument has been rejected by other courts
    (see People v. Patino (1994) 
    26 Cal.App.4th 1737
    , 1747-1748 [“[I]ntroduction
    of CSAAS testimony does not by itself deny appellant due process”]), but, he
    argues, the Patino court’s reliance on Estelle v. McGuire (1991) 
    502 U.S. 62
    ,
    72, which involved the admission of evidence regarding battered child
    syndrome, provides an inapt analogy and undermines the Patino court’s
    analysis. We are not persuaded that Barber’s challenge to Patino is correct;
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    other courts agree with our assessment, in that they have rejected the notion
    that the admission of evidence regarding CSAAS, even without a Kelly
    analysis, violates due process. (See Lapenias, supra, 
    67 Cal.App.5th 162
    ,
    174; Munch, supra, 52 Cal.App.5th at p. 470.) We see no basis to depart from
    the conclusion reached by these courts. A trial court’s compliance with the
    rules of evidence typically does not violate a defendant’s right to due process
    (see People v. Hall (1986) 
    41 Cal.3d 826
    , 834-835).
    B. Evidence Code section 801 does not render
    CSAAS evidence inadmissible
    Barber next contends that CSAAS evidence should be excluded for all
    purposes under Evidence Code section 801. He argues that Evidence Code
    section 801, subdivision (b) limits an expert’s testimony to opinions that are
    “ ‘[b]ased on matter . . . that is of a type that reasonably may be relied upon
    by an expert in forming an opinion upon the subject to which his testimony
    relates.’ ” “Trial judges have a critical gatekeeping function when it comes to
    expert testimony beyond merely determining whether the expert may testify
    at all. Expert evidence that does not require a Kelly analysis must still be
    admissible under Evidence Code section 801, which mandates it be ‘of a type
    that reasonably may be relied upon by an expert in forming an opinion upon
    the subject.’ [Citations.]” (People v. Azcona (2020) 
    58 Cal.App.5th 504
    , 513.)
    Relying on out-of-state authority, Barber asks this court to conclude
    that CSAAS evidence is not sufficiently reliable to be admitted for any
    purpose under Evidence Code section 801. (See Blount v. Commonwealth
    (Ky. 2013) 
    392 S.W.3d 393
    , 395; Commonwealth v. Dunkle (Pa. 1992)
    
    602 A.2d 830
    ; State v. Ballard (Tenn. 1993) 
    855 S.W.2d 557
    , 562; State v.
    J.L.G. (2018) 
    234 N.J. 265
    , 
    90 A.3d 442
    , 446; Hadden v. State (Fla. 1997)
    
    690 So.2d 573
    -578.) However, our Supreme Court has expressly approved
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    the admissibility of CSAAS evidence for certain purposes in People v.
    McAlpin (1991) 
    53 Cal.3d 1289
    , and we are bound by that precedent. (Auto
    Equity, supra, 57 Cal.2d at p. 455.) Other California courts have consistently
    found expert testimony about CSAAS admissible based on the authority of
    McAlpin. (See, e.g., Munch, supra, 52 Cal.App.5th at p. 468; Lapenias, supra,
    67 Cal.App.5th at p. 172.) Out-of-state authorities provide us no compelling
    reason to depart from established California precedent.
    C. Detective Trosper’s expert testimony was not
    irrelevant on the ground that the public no longer
    harbors misconceptions about the manner in
    which child sexual abuse victims disclose the
    abuse
    Barber also argues that the trial court should have excluded Detective
    Trosper’s expert testimony regarding his experiences concerning how child
    sexual abuse victims disclose abuse because there is no longer a need to
    dispel misconceptions harbored by laypersons about the behavior of victims of
    sexual abuse—the purpose for which such evidence has been held to be
    admissible. Specifically, Barber contends that the public “no longer harbors
    misconceptions about the behavior of sexually abused children.” (Boldface
    and capitalization omitted.) We disagree with this assertion.
    The appellate court in Munch, supra, 
    52 Cal.App.5th 464
     addressed a
    similar argument and rejected it. The defendant in Munch argued that
    CSAAS evidence “is irrelevant and ‘the public no longer holds the presumed
    misconceptions this testimony purports to address.’ ” (Id. at p. 468.) The
    Munch court disagreed with this contention. (Ibid.) Barber again offers out-
    of-state authority to argue that “[c]ourts and commentators have questioned
    whether the public continues to hold misconceptions about the behavior of
    children who have been molested.” We see no reason to depart from the
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    holding in Munch. We are not persuaded that expert evidence regarding the
    behavior of child sexual abuse victims does not retain value in disabusing
    jurors of misperceptions or misunderstandings with respect to the behaviors
    of a child surrounding sexual abuse, including delayed or disjointed
    disclosure of the abuse.
    D. Detective Trosper’s expert testimony did not
    “provide a ‘profile’ of a child abuse victim”
    Barber’s final contention related to the admission of Detective Trosper’s
    testimony regarding common patterns of disclosure in child sexual abuse
    victims is that the trial court erroneously permitted the detective to provide
    testimony that “allowed the jury to apply the syndrome to the facts of the
    case and conclude that both [Jane Doe 1] and [Jane Doe 2] were sexually
    abused,” rather than for the acceptable limited purpose of disabusing the jury
    of preconceived ideas of how a sex abuse victim might act. According to
    Barber, CSAAS evidence may not be “used to provide a ‘profile’ of a child
    abuse victim.” Barber complains that Detective Trosper “testified in a way
    that closely tracked the facts of this case,” and he relies on authority that
    cautions that where a trial court permits an expert to give what appears to be
    “ ‘general’ testimony describing the components of [CSAAS]” (Bowker, supra,
    203 Cal.App.3d at p. 393) in a way that too closely tracks the case, the jury
    might draw “predictive conclusions” (ibid.) and use the testimony to
    determine that the complaining victim was, in fact, sexually abused.
    After viewing Detective Trosper’s expert testimony as a whole, we are
    not convinced that the jury was likely to misuse his testimony to conclude
    that Jane Does 1 and 2 were sexually abused. First, and contrary to Barber’s
    assertion otherwise, Detective Trosper did not “describe[ ] CSAAS” at all, in
    that he did not purport to set forth a clinical or other psychological theory to
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    explain a variety of behaviors of child victims. Thus, Detective Trosper’s
    testimony did not suggest to the jury that it was based on any scientific or
    academic authority. Rather, the detective offered his professional experience
    about the manner in which the sexual abuse victims whom he had observed
    tended to disclose the abuse. Testimony regarding his observations of
    patterns in sexual abuse victims’ often delayed disclosures, inconsistent
    statements, and disjointed memories of the abuse addressed jurors’ possible
    misconceptions that these circumstances might indicate that a victim was
    fabricating the asserted abuse. Detective Trosper properly assisted the jury
    in understanding that it is not uncommon for victims to delay the reporting of
    sexual abuse and that it is also not uncommon for victims’ initial disclosures
    to lack details or to be inconsistent with later versions. Further, the
    detective’s expert testimony regarding victims’ delayed disclosure and the
    manner of disclosure was presented in general terms regarding typical cases
    and did not closely track the facts of this case. That some of Detective
    Trosper’s general observations about child sexual abuse victims’ disclosures,
    as a class, were also reflected in the evidence of the disclosures of Jane Does 1
    and 2 does not mean that Detective Trosper engaged in improper “profiling.”
    Instead, it demonstrates that the disclosures of the two victims in this case
    were not inconsistent with disclosures by other victims of sexual abuse of
    which Detective Trosper was aware. Detective Trosper’s testimony did not
    suggest that anyone could conclude that the two victims in this case had been
    abused, based merely on their lack of immediate disclosure and the existence
    of inconsistent disclosures over time. Nor did his testimony suggest that
    Jane Does 1 and 2 were being truthful. Rather, Detective Trosper’s
    testimony served to prevent jurors from misapprehending that the presence
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    of such factors necessarily indicated that Jane Does 1 and 2 had fabricated
    the abuse.
    b. Reversal is not required based on the lack of an instruction
    limiting the use of Detective Trosper’s expert testimony
    regarding his experience with respect to child sexual abuse
    victim disclosure patterns
    Barber contends that the trial court erred in failing to instruct the jury
    as to the limited way in which it was permitted to use CSAAS evidence.6 The
    People respond by asserting that Barber has forfeited this contention for
    purposes of appeal by failing to object to the trial court’s instruction with
    respect to Detective Trosper’s expert testimony. Barber contends, however,
    that this court may consider his argument on appeal because, to the extent
    his trial counsel failed to seek a limiting instruction or object to the court’s
    instructions, his attorney rendered ineffective assistance, warranting
    reversal of his convictions. The People assert that Barber cannot
    demonstrate either that his attorney’s performance with respect to failing to
    request a limiting instruction was deficient, or that there is a reasonable
    probability that, but for the purportedly deficient performance, the result of
    the trial would have been different. We address these contentions in turn.
    i. Additional background
    Near the end of trial, the trial court and the attorneys discussed the
    proposed jury instructions. The court indicated its intention to “go through”
    the packet of instructions provided by the prosecution and indicate whether
    the court intended to give, not give, or give a modified version of each
    6     Barber does not specify whether he believes that the pattern
    instruction (CALCRIM No. 1193) should have been given, or whether he
    believes that the court should have devised an instruction tailored to
    Detective Trosper’s testimony.
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    proposed instruction. The court stated, “Please stop me, ask me to go back,
    interrupt me if you have any input. If I don’t hear from you, that means you
    have no objection.” The court also told the attorneys to indicate whether they
    believed that additional instructions were needed after the court concluded
    its review of the packet of instructions that the prosecutor proposed.
    During the discussion, the court indicated that it intended to give
    CALCRIM No. 332, regarding expert witness testimony, in light of Detective
    Trosper’s expert testimony. Defense counsel did not object to this instruction,
    nor did counsel request a limiting instruction. At the end of the discussion,
    the court asked defense counsel whether she wanted to request any
    additional instructions; defense counsel replied, “Not at this time.” The
    following morning, defense counsel indicated that she had no comments or
    changes to the revised instructions.
    The trial court instructed the jury on the use of expert witness
    testimony in a manner consistent with CALCRIM No. 332:
    “A witness was allowed to testify as an expert and to give
    opinions. You must consider the opinions, but you are not
    required to accept them as true or correct. The meaning
    and importance of any opinion is for you to decide. In
    evaluating the believability of an expert witness, follow the
    instructions about the believability of witnesses generally.
    In addition, consider the expert’s knowledge, skill,
    experience, training, and education, the reasons the expert
    gave for any opinion, and the facts or information on which
    the expert relied in reaching that opinion. You must decide
    whether information on which the expert relied was true
    and accurate.
    “You may disregard any opinion that you find unbelievable,
    unreasonable, or unsupported by the evidence.”
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    ii. Analysis
    A. Courts do not have a sua sponte duty to provide
    an instruction limiting the use of CSAAS
    evidence; Barber’s failure to request a limiting
    instruction forfeits his claim on appeal
    “ ‘It is settled that in criminal cases, even in the absence of a request,
    the trial court must instruct on the general principles of law relevant to the
    issues raised by the evidence. [Citations.] The general principles of law
    governing the case are those principles closely and openly connected with the
    facts before the court, and which are necessary for the jury’s understanding of
    the case.’ [Citation.]” (People v. Najera (2008) 
    43 Cal.4th 1132
    , 1136.) An
    appellate court reviews independently the issue of whether a trial court has a
    duty to give a particular jury instruction. (People v. Guiuan (1998)
    
    18 Cal.4th 558
    , 569.)
    The Legislature has determined that limiting instructions need not be
    given sua sponte. “When evidence is admissible as to one party or for one
    purpose and is inadmissible as to another party or for another purpose, the
    court upon request shall restrict the evidence to its proper scope and instruct
    the jury accordingly.” (Evid. Code, § 355.) Thus, it has been repeatedly
    stated that “ ‘[a]bsent a request, a trial court generally has no duty to
    instruct as to the limited purpose for which evidence has been admitted.’
    [Citation.]” (People v. Murtishaw (2011) 
    51 Cal.4th 574
    , 590; see, e.g., People
    v. Hernandez (2004) 
    33 Cal.4th 1040
    , 1051-1052; People v. Humphrey (1996)
    
    13 Cal.4th 1073
    , 1088, fn. 5 (Humphrey); People v. Collie (1981) 
    30 Cal.3d 43
    ,
    63; People v. Jennings (2000) 
    81 Cal.App.4th 1301
    , 1316-1317.)7
    7       A “ ‘possible’ narrow exception” to this rule may occur in the
    “ ‘ “occasional extraordinary case” ’ in which the evidence ‘ “is a dominant
    part of the evidence against the accused, and is both highly prejudicial and
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    Pursuant to statute, only one instruction need be given sua sponte with
    respect to expert testimony: “When, in any criminal trial or proceeding, the
    opinion of any expert witness is received in evidence, the court shall instruct
    the jury substantially as follows: [¶] Duly qualified experts may give their
    opinions on questions in controversy at a trial. To assist the jury in deciding
    such questions, the jury may consider the opinion with the reasons stated
    therefor, if any, by the expert who gives the opinion. The jury is not bound to
    accept the opinion of any expert as conclusive, but should give to it the weight
    to which they shall find it to be entitled. The jury may, however, disregard
    any such opinion, if it shall be found by them to be unreasonable. [¶] No
    further instruction on the subject of opinion evidence need be given.” (§ 1127b,
    italics added.)
    The trial court instructed the jury consistent with the requirements of
    section 1127b by providing the jury with the pattern instruction on expert
    testimony, CALCRIM No. 332. Under section 1127b’s terms, no further
    limiting instruction on the use of expert testimony—even expert testimony
    touching on common patterns in the disclosure of child sexual abuse—was
    required. Barber contends, however, that appellate courts “are divided on
    whether a trial court is required to sua sponte give a limiting instruction
    when expert testimony on CSAAS is introduced at trial.” He contends that
    the “better, and more modern, view is that when a court admits CSAAS
    testimony, it must instruct the jury sua sponte that it may not use the
    evidence to determine whether the victim’s claims are true.” We disagree
    with Barber’s assessment of the state of the law.
    minimally relevant to any legitimate purpose.” ’ [Citations.]” (People v.
    Murtishaw, supra, 51 Cal.4th at p. 590.)
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    One of the most recent published cases to have considered this issue,
    People v. Mateo (2016) 
    243 Cal.App.4th 1063
     (Mateo), discusses the purported
    division on the question of a sua sponte duty of the court to provide a limiting
    instruction on CSAAS evidence and concludes that only a single published
    case, People v. Housley (1992) 
    6 Cal.App.4th 947
    , 957 (Housley), has expressly
    determined that a trial court has a sua sponte duty to provide a limiting
    instruction regarding the use of CSAAS evidence. (See Mateo, at pp. 1072-
    1073.) The Mateo court explained that although one other decision could be
    interpreted as being “arguably consistent with Housley,” that opinion “does
    not expressly discuss the point” whether a limiting instruction is required to
    be given sua sponte. (Id. at p. 1073, citing Bowker, supra, 203 Cal.App.3d at
    p. 394.) The Mateo court further noted that “[a]ny doubt as to the intent of
    the Bowker court has been eliminated, because the same court that decided
    Bowker held in three subsequent cases that the limiting instruction must be
    given [only] ‘if requested.’ ” (Mateo, at p. 1073, quoting and citing People v.
    Stark (1989) 
    213 Cal.App.3d 107
    , 116; People v. Sanchez (1989)
    
    208 Cal.App.3d 721
    , 735; People v. Bothuel (1988) 
    205 Cal.App.3d 581
    , 587-
    588.)
    Moreover, as the Mateo court discusses, the Housley approach is “at
    odds with our Supreme Court’s decision in Humphrey, 
    supra,
     
    13 Cal.4th 1073
    ,” in which the Supreme Court “repeatedly referred to the trial court’s
    duty to give a limiting instruction on the use of battered women’s syndrome
    evidence on request.” (Mateo, supra, 243 Cal.App.4th at p. 1073, citing
    Humphrey, at p. 1088, fn. 5, pp. 1090-1091 (conc. opn. of Baxter, J.), and
    p. 1100 (conc. opn. of Brown, J.).) “The majority opinion in Humphrey does
    not require a sua sponte limiting instruction on the use of evidence of
    battered women’s syndrome; it suggests that an instruction would be
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    discretionary on request: ‘If the prosecution offers the battered women’s
    syndrome evidence, an additional limiting instruction might also be
    appropriate on request, given the statutory prohibition against use of this
    evidence “to prove the occurrence of the act or acts of abuse which form the
    basis of the criminal charge.” [Citations.]’ [Citation.]” (Mateo, at p. 1073.)
    After concluding that “[b]attered women’s syndrome is analogous to CSAAS,”
    in that “[b]oth syndromes explain that victims’ ‘seemingly self-impeaching’
    behaviors . . . are consistent with their claims of having been [victimized],”
    the Mateo court decided that there is “no reason why a duty to instruct
    should be imposed in [the CSAAS] situation and not the [battered women’s
    situation.].” (Ibid.) Thus, Mateo holds that a limiting instruction regarding
    CSAAS evidence “need only be given if requested.” (Id. at p. 1074.)
    We find the Mateo court’s analysis persuasive and conclude that a trial
    court does not have a sua sponte duty to provide a limiting instruction to the
    jury on the permissible use of CSAAS or related evidence, such as the
    testimony provided by Detective Trosper in this case. If Barber wanted the
    court to instruct the jury as to the proper use of Detective Trosper’s
    testimony, it was incumbent on Barber to request a limiting instruction. His
    failure to do so results in the forfeiture of his contention that the trial court
    erred in failing to provide a limiting instruction. (See, e.g., People v. Pineda
    (2022) 
    13 Cal.5th 186
    , 238, fn. 29 [argument that failure to provide limiting
    instruction permitted jury to use evidence for improper purposes was
    forfeited by failure to request such an instruction in the trial court]; People v.
    Vang (2022) 
    82 Cal.App.5th 64
    , 92 [defendant’s failure to request a limiting
    instruction or remind court of need for one prior to jury deliberations resulted
    in forfeiture of claim of instructional error].)
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    B. Barber’s ineffective assistance of counsel
    claim is without merit
    Barber asserts that if this court concludes that the trial court did not
    have a sua sponte duty to provide an instruction limiting the use of Detective
    Trosper’s expert testimony, then we should conclude that his trial counsel’s
    failure to request such an instruction constituted ineffective assistance of
    counsel.
    Under Strickland v. Washington (1984) 
    466 U.S. 668
     (Strickland), a
    defendant must demonstrate that trial counsel’s performance was deficient,
    and that this deficient performance resulted in prejudice, in order to prevail
    on a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. (Id. at p. 687.) With respect to
    the performance prong, a reviewing court “indulge[s] a strong presumption
    that counsel’s conduct falls within the wide range of reasonable professional
    assistance” (id. at p. 689), and measures an attorney’s performance against
    an “objective standard of reasonableness” (id. at p. 688). In order to establish
    that defense counsel rendered deficient performance under Strickland, a
    defendant must demonstrate that “counsel made errors so serious that
    counsel was not functioning as the ‘counsel’ guaranteed the defendant by the
    Sixth Amendment.” (Id. at p. 687.) “On direct appeal, a finding of deficient
    performance is warranted where ‘(1) the record affirmatively discloses
    counsel had no rational tactical purpose for the challenged act or omission,
    (2) counsel was asked for a reason and failed to provide one, or (3) there
    simply could be no satisfactory explanation.’ [Citation.] ‘[W]here counsel’s
    trial tactics or strategic reasons for challenged decisions do not appear on the
    record, we will not find ineffective assistance of counsel on appeal unless
    there could be no conceivable reason for counsel’s acts or omissions.’ ” (People
    v. Johnsen (2021) 
    10 Cal.5th 1116
    , 1165, italics added; People v. Cunningham
    36
    (2001) 
    25 Cal.4th 926
    , 1003 [“deficient performance [must be] based upon the
    four corners of the record”].) Therefore, without some indication in the record
    that counsel’s decision was not tactical, a reviewing court is not justified in
    finding deficient performance on direct appeal. (See People v. Mendoza Tello
    (1997) 
    15 Cal.4th 264
    , 266–267; see also People v. Scott (1997) 
    15 Cal.4th 1188
    , 1212 [“If the record does not shed light on why counsel acted or failed to
    act in the challenged manner, we must reject the claim on appeal unless
    counsel was asked for and failed to provide a satisfactory explanation, or
    there simply can be no satisfactory explanation”].)
    With respect to the prejudice prong, a defendant “must show that there
    is a reasonable probability that, but for counsel’s unprofessional errors, the
    result of the proceeding would have been different.” (Strickland, 
    supra,
    466 U.S. at p. 694.) A defendant “need not show that counsel’s deficient
    conduct more likely than not altered the outcome in the case.” (Id. at p. 693.)
    Rather, a defendant must show “a probability sufficient to undermine
    confidence in the outcome.” (Id. at p. 694.)
    The record in this case sheds no light on why trial counsel did not
    request CALCRIM No. 1193 or another instruction limiting the use of
    Detective Trosper’s expert testimony. Given the lack of any indication of the
    reason for counsel’s omission, Barber cannot prevail on this claim unless
    there could be no conceivable reason for failing to request a limiting
    instruction. However, there is at least one conceivable reason why trial
    counsel may not have requested a limiting instruction: “[C]ounsel could
    rationally conclude that it would be counterproductive to request an
    instruction highlighting expert testimony supporting the victim’s credibility.”
    (Mateo, supra, 243 Cal.App.4th at p. 1076; see People v. Maury (2003)
    
    30 Cal.4th 342
    , 394 [“A reasonable attorney may have tactically concluded
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    that the risk of a limiting instruction . . . outweighed the questionable
    benefits such instruction would provide”].)
    Further, Barber has not sufficiently demonstrated that there is a
    reasonable probability that, but for counsel’s purported error in failing to
    request a limiting instruction, he would have obtained a different result.
    (See Strickland, 
    supra,
     466 U.S. at p. 694.) Detective Trosper’s expert
    testimony was brief when considered in the context of the entire trial. The
    direct evidence against Barber was strong, in that both Jane Doe 1 and Jane
    Doe 2 described abuse that was similar in striking ways to the abuse that
    Barber admitted he had committed against Mary Doe. The girls both also
    seemed to know details about various sexual acts, and their descriptions of
    the abuse was often technically accurate and realistic. And, while the girls’
    recollections of the abuse may have involved inconsistencies at the margins,
    their stories were generally quite consistent. Other witnesses described
    events that supported the girls’ testimony, such as an incident during which
    the garage door was locked while Barber and one of the girls were inside, and
    despite Barber’s son’s knocking, it took Barber a long time to open the door.
    Moreover, Barber conceded that he continued to harbor a “sexual preference”
    for girls who appeared to be ten or eleven years old, and admitted that he
    continued to seek out and view pornography that was thematically consistent
    with that preference. Given this record, our confidence in the outcome is not
    undermined by the lack of a limiting instruction regarding the proper use of
    Detective Trosper’s expert testimony.
    In sum, we conclude that Barber’s contention that his trial counsel
    rendered ineffective assistance in failing to request a limiting instruction
    regarding the proper use of Detective Trosper’s expert testimony is without
    merit.
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    B. Barber’s contention regarding the trial court’s decision to reopen closing
    arguments
    1. Additional background
    The attorneys for the parties presented closing arguments on Friday,
    June 11, 2021. Because it was late in the day when the attorneys completed
    their closing arguments, the trial court sent the jury home for the weekend
    upon the conclusion of the arguments rather than providing jury instructions
    at that time.
    On Monday, June 14, the trial court instructed the jury, and the jury
    began its deliberations.
    Two days later, on June 16, the trial court requested that the parties
    appear in court to discuss how the court should respond to questions
    submitted by the jury. The jury had asked for transcripts of the video
    recordings, as well as a readback of the testimony of Jane Doe 1, Jane Doe 2,
    Mary Doe, and Barber. Before the readback of the requested testimony was
    completed, the jury sent a note to the court asking, “What do we do if we can’t
    agree on any of the charges?” The court initially thought that the jury might
    be indicating that it was hung on all counts, and called the jury into the
    courtroom to inquire. The foreperson indicated that the jury was not hung,
    and that the question posed to the court was a “hypothetical question.” When
    asked by the court, “So you’re not really telling me the jury is hopelessly
    deadlocked,” the foreperson indicated the jury was not hopelessly deadlocked.
    The court instructed the jury not to send out “hypothetical questions” and
    asked the jury whether it still wanted the readback of the testimony of the
    two witnesses that it had yet to receive. The foreman indicated that the jury
    still wanted to hear the readback of that testimony. The trial court then sent
    the jury back to the jury room for further deliberations.
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    Later that day, the jury sent the court the following question, identified
    in the record as “Juror Question #4”: “Why are there multiple counts for one
    offense? For example, counts 18-23 the crime of committing a lewd or
    lascivious act on a child under the age of 14 against Jane Doe 2. [¶] Why are
    there 4 oral copulations with a child 10 years of age or younger for Jane
    Doe 2?”8 In the courtroom, outside the presence of the jury, the court stated,
    “Before we went on the record, I was informally advising counsel that what I
    am thinking -- and I am thinking out loud[,] [a]nd I will certainly hear
    suggestion from counsel -- is to finish the readbacks tonight, send them home,
    and bring them in [tomorrow].” The court suggested that it would “give each
    side whatever time you need, five minutes to half an hour, minimum five
    minutes; maximum half an hour,” to “[c]ontinue and redo your closing
    arguments and explain to them that it is multiple acts apparently alleged,
    number of acts alleged; and that [each charge] go[es] to each act.” The court
    then said to the attorneys, “But if you have other suggestions, I [will] listen.”
    The attorneys and the court proceeded to discuss possible options for
    responding to the jury’s question, including responding in writing or directing
    the jury to specific jury instructions. The attorneys and the court indicated
    confusion as to why the jury seemed not to comprehend what the attorneys
    and court believed was a fairly basic point, and they struggled with how to
    respond.9 Ultimately, the trial court offered the following suggestion:
    8     Counts 14 through 17 alleged that Barber orally copulated a child
    10 years old or younger with respect to Jane Doe 2.
    9     For example, defense counsel stated at one point, “I don’t -- and I don’t--
    and I am not sure if this is just one person asking this. Why are they asking
    this? I am sorry. I am just a little taken aback by the question.” Later, the
    court expressed concern about how this particular question did not seem to fit
    into the typical framework of jury questions, which usually involve either a
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    “I am willing to give each of you five minutes. I can do it.
    But it is not my job to do it. I, this afternoon, I can bring
    them right here. You stand up. I give [the prosecutor] five
    minutes. And I give [defense counsel] five minutes.
    Explain to them. Just in plain English as you’re teaching a
    three-year-old. Just say each count, you heard evidence
    that it could have happened hundred times, or three times,
    or one time. The D.A. has elected only th[is] many time[s],
    [this] many counts, th[is] many times. And then you can
    stand up and you say the D.A. didn’t prove any of them. [¶]
    But I don’t think it is my job to be giving it to them in
    terms of – because it’s, you’re right [defense counsel]. If I
    want to repeat the law, I will refer them to that instruction.
    Each count is a separate crime. But because they are stuck
    and they are stuck in a very fundamental way, I am willing
    to give you five minutes.”
    Neither attorney objected to the trial court’s suggestion. The bailiff
    then notified the court that the readbacks were completed. Because defense
    counsel had previously indicated that she was unavailable to do additional
    closing argument the following day, the court brought the jury into the
    courtroom for further argument that same day.
    The prosecutor proceeded first and presented a chart that the
    prosecution had used during the original closing arguments. The chart set
    out all of the charges against appellant visually. The prosecutor’s argument
    was brief, taking up only one and a half pages of reporter’s transcript. The
    prosecutor explained that each charge related to a separate alleged act, and
    told the jury that if the jury found that Barber had committed the same type
    of conduct on multiple occasions, it could find Barber guilty of multiple counts
    related to those findings.
    legal question or a factual question, stating: “This one is beyond that. This
    one is a total lack of comprehension. Because this should be self-evident. It
    should be absolutely self-evident.”
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    Defense counsel’s additional closing argument also consists of
    approximately one and a half pages of reporter’s transcript. Defense counsel
    did not directly address the jury’s question; instead, defense counsel argued
    that Barber had not committed any of the alleged acts. Counsel began by
    stating: “Good afternoon, once again, ladies and gentlemen. Doesn’t matter
    how many times they claimed it happened. It doesn’t matter how many
    counts there were. The law told you that you are not supposed to count the
    number of witnesses, and that the allegations are not evidence. [¶] What we
    know in this case is that it’s not true, and it can’t be true. Not only did you
    see them be interviewed at length and tell you in their own words, it did not
    happen, you now have several subsequent interviews and testimony that
    conflict with their own selves [sic]. [¶] . . . This is all Johnny-come-lately stuff
    when we find out grandpa is about to get out of prison.” At that point, the
    trial court asked defense counsel to “please limit yourself to answering [the
    jury’s] question, if possible.” Defense counsel then reiterated to the jury that
    all conflicts in the evidence should be resolved in Barber’s favor, and that any
    doubt required a “not guilty” finding. Defense counsel also reminded the jury
    of the unanimity requirement: “So not only does the prosecutor have to prove
    that an act, a specific act happened that matches a count, all twelve of you
    have to agree as to specifically what it was in that time frame. So you can’t
    all say well, maybe it all happened one time, but I think it was this, and I
    think it was this, I think it was that. You all have to agree exactly what the
    act was that would fit the count.” Defense counsel then asked the jury to “do
    [its] duty” and “return a not guilty verdict.
    Upon the conclusion of defense counsel’s additional closing argument,
    the trial court asked the jury foreperson whether the additional closing
    arguments had “help[ed] in any way to answer [the jury’s] question.” The
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    foreperson indicated they had. When the court posed a general question to
    the jurors regarding whether “[e]verybody agrees,” several jurors “answer[ed]
    in the affirmative.” However, Juror No. 7 asked the court the following
    question: “I guess the question also was as to the counts [that] were listed --
    and I don’t remember the numbers right offhand, but 14, 15, 16, 17, I don’t
    recall it saying this one was because it was oral. This one was because it was
    -- it didn’t say all of the details that it was saying there as to which one it
    was. I think that is --[.]” At that point the court interrupted and said,
    “This[,] what you just saw was a closing argument. It is not evidence. We
    did that to help you.” Juror No. 7 stated, “Okay,” but Juror No. 9 then said,
    “I am hoping I can say this. I mean but we kind of looked at those four oral
    [copulation counts] and said well, maybe that was -- did it happen two times
    in the bed and two times in the car. And that is not what we were talking
    about though; right? We don’t want to do it that way?” The court responded
    as follows:
    “Okay. Here is the problem. You have the law. You have
    the jury instructions. I think you’re on the right track, sir.
    Just follow the track.
    “The simplest way I can answer your question is if you
    believe an act of oral copulation, for example, happened, if
    you believe it happened, that is one act. If you believe
    another act happened, that is another count. The D.A.
    chose to charge four counts of those instead of one hundred
    twenty, or one.
    “Does that explain it?”
    When Juror No. 9 indicated a need for further clarification, the trial
    court explained that the location of the act was irrelevant and said, “[B]eyond
    that, I cannot give you additional information.” The court reiterated that the
    jury’s determination as to any particular count had to be unanimous,
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    clarifying again that “[a]ll twelve of you must agree as to one act.” Because it
    was late in the day, at the conclusion of this discussion, the court sent the
    jurors home.
    The jury continued deliberating on Thursday, June 17, and requested
    readback of additional testimony. At close to 2:00 p.m. on Friday, June 18,
    the jury advised the trial court that it had reached unanimous verdicts on 21
    counts, but was deadlocked on 2 counts. The court inquired of the foreperson
    about the jury’s determination that it could not reach verdicts on two counts
    and then inquired of the full jury. After doing so, the court declared a
    mistrial on those two counts. The court then read the jury’s verdicts on the
    remaining 21 counts and polled the jury.
    2. Analysis
    Barber contends that the trial court abused its discretion in allowing
    the parties to reopen their closing arguments when the jury had not indicated
    that it had reached an impasse in its deliberations at the time it sent the
    court Juror Question #4. Barber relies on the fact that under California Rule
    of Court, rule 2.1036 (rule 2.1036), a trial court is authorized to reopen
    argument only after a jury has reported that it is at an impasse. The full text
    of rule 2.1036 states:
    “(a) Determination
    “After a jury reports that it has reached an impasse in its
    deliberations, the trial judge may, in the presence of
    counsel, advise the jury of its duty to decide the case based
    on the evidence while keeping an open mind and talking
    about the evidence with each other. The judge should ask
    the jury if it has specific concerns which, if resolved, might
    assist the jury in reaching a verdict.
    “(b) Possible further action
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    “If the trial judge determines that further action might
    assist the jury in reaching a verdict, the judge may:
    “(1) Give additional instructions;
    “(2) Clarify previous instructions;
    “(3) Permit attorneys to make additional closing
    arguments;
    “or
    “(4) Employ any combination of these measures.”
    The rule grants a trial court discretion in “choosing whether to resort to
    the tools provided” in rule 2.1036; its decision is reviewed for an abuse of that
    discretion. (People v. Salazar (2014) 
    227 Cal.App.4th 1078
    , 1088.)
    According to Barber, when the jury submitted Juror Question # 4, it
    was not reporting that it was at an impasse as to any of the charged counts,
    but instead was simply asking the court to answer a question. Thus, Barber
    contends, the trial court did not have discretion under rule 2.1036 to reopen
    argument in response to the jury’s question.
    a. Barber forfeited this contention by failing to register an
    objection to the reopening of closing arguments
    The People contend that Barber has forfeited his contention regarding
    the reopening of closing arguments by failing to register any objection to this
    method of addressing the jury’s question. As previously noted, a defendant’s
    failure to make a timely and specific objection on a ground raised on appeal
    results in forfeiture of an argument based on that ground of error. (See, e.g.,
    Demetrulias, 
    supra,
     39 Cal.4th at pp. 20-22, Partida, 
    supra,
     37 Cal.4th at
    pp. 433-434.)
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    The record demonstrates that defense counsel did not object to the trial
    court’s suggestion to allow both parties to present additional closing
    argument to the jury in response to the jury’s question regarding why “there
    [are] multiple counts for one offense.” Barber suggests that the fact that his
    attorney at one point offered a suggestion that the court provide a written
    response to the jury’s question should be considered to be an objection to the
    court’s ultimate determination that it would reopen closing arguments. We
    disagree. The court specifically elicited “suggestion[s]” from both attorneys
    during the on-the-record discussion regarding Juror Question #4. At that
    time, defense counsel offered only, “My suggestion would be to apply the facts
    from the trial to the counts,” and then proceeded to make the comment
    questioning why the jury was “asking this” and remarking that she was
    “taken aback by the question.” She also mentioned that she had doctor
    appointments the following day, which meant that she “can’t reargue
    tomorrow.” Rather than indicating that she objected to the possibility of
    reopening the arguments, counsel appeared to be open to that suggestion but
    had a concern regarding when she would be able to present further
    argument. In response to defense counsel’s concern about being unavailable
    the following day, the prosecutor offered, “Could we try to possibly clarify
    with something in writing, and then if that doesn’t clarify it, then --.” Before
    the prosecutor finished her sentence, the court asked “How do I propose it?”
    Neither of the attorneys offered phrasing to the court. At some point, the
    court stated, “This question defies logic. I am sorry. But that is how I feel
    after --,” and defense counsel added, “I agree. That is why I am struggling
    with a response Your Honor.” The court then suggested that it would give
    each attorney “five minutes” for further argument. Defense counsel at no
    point objected to this proposal or indicated any disagreement with the court’s
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    approach on the ground that the jury did not appear to be at an impasse.
    Thus, defense counsel did not put the court on notice that she believed the
    court should not permit the parties to present additional argument in
    response to the jury’s question. Barber’s appellate contention that the court
    abused its discretion in this respect is therefore forfeited.
    b. Barber cannot demonstrate ineffective assistance of counsel
    In order to avoid the effects of the forfeiture of his appellate argument
    by the failure to object on this basis in the trial court, Barber contends that
    his trial attorney’s failure to object constituted ineffective assistance of
    counsel. We conclude that Barber has failed to demonstrate that he is
    entitled to reversal of his convictions on the basis of his ineffective assistance
    of counsel claim with respect to the reopening of closing arguments.
    We apply the same standards for assessing a claim of ineffective
    assistance of counsel set forth in part III.A.2.b.ii.B, ante, to Barber’s
    contention that his attorney was ineffective for failing to object to the
    reopening of closing arguments. We therefore consider whether Barber has
    demonstrated both that trial counsel’s performance was deficient, and that
    this deficient performance resulted in prejudice. (Strickland, supra, 466 U.S.
    at p. 687.)
    We conclude that Barber is unable to satisfy either prong of an
    ineffective assistance of counsel claim. First, as to counsel’s performance, we
    begin by noting that there is rarely only a single reasonable strategy for a
    defense attorney to adopt when representing a client in a criminal case. The
    fact that other strategies might exist, or might appear in hindsight to have
    possibly had a better chance at success, does not make the strategy employed
    by trial counsel unreasonable or render counsel’s performance deficient. (See
    Maryland v. Kulbicki (2015) 
    577 U.S. 1
    , 4; People v. Jennings (1991)
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    53 Cal.3d 334
    , 379–380.) In this instance, deciding the best approach for the
    defense with respect to addressing the jury’s question was inherently a
    tactical decision. Defense counsel could have reasonably concluded that even
    though the jury had not indicated that it was at an impasse, the court’s
    proposal to reopen closing argument would be beneficial to the defense
    because it would allow counsel another opportunity to try to convince the jury
    of the defense’s view of the case. And this is precisely what counsel did with
    the opportunity. Thus, there is a conceivable reason for trial counsel’s
    decision not to object to the court’s decision to reopen closing arguments.
    In addition, Barber cannot demonstrate that counsel’s failure to object
    to the court reopening closing arguments in response to the jury’s question
    about the number of counts prejudiced him. Barber has not even attempted
    to set out an argument as to how there is a reasonable probability that, but
    for counsel’s failure to object to the reopening of arguments, the result of the
    proceeding would have been different. (See Strickland, 
    supra,
     466 U.S. at
    p. 694.) The trial court had to respond in some fashion to the jury’s inquiry,
    and at some point the jury would have been re-instructed that each count
    was intended to reflect a different alleged act. This is, effectively, what the
    prosecutor’s additional closing argument did, as the prosecutor stated: “The
    important thing to know is that each act is a separate count. So, if for
    example during the timeframe we know that it could have possibly happened,
    oral copulation, hundreds of time[s], we could have charged a separate count
    for each act,” and later explained, “[W]e could have charged hundreds. But
    we have narrowed it down.” Thus, the additional closing argument by the
    prosecutor did not include rearguing the evidence or focusing the jury’s
    attention on particular evidence; the prosecutor merely tried to address a
    very basic point, raised by the jury, that the court and attorneys believed
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    should have been clear to the jury from the start. The defense, in contrast,
    reargued the evidence, and reasserted and highlighted to the jury that all
    jurors would have to be unanimous in finding that a particular act of sexual
    misconduct occurred with respect to any count.
    Barber contends, however, that defense counsel was prevented from
    “pointing out the inconsistencies in the girls’ stories” because the trial court
    “interrupted and imposed its own objection.” He asserts that this permitted
    the prosecutor to “highlight to the jury again [Jane Doe 1] and [Jane Doe 2]’s
    testimony and present their testimony as entirely truthful without any
    challenge from defense counsel.” This mischaracterizes what occurred. First,
    the prosecutor did not “highlight” any of the witness testimony. Instead, the
    prosecutor merely explained, using a chart, that each count was intended to
    relate to a separate alleged act of sexual misconduct. Further, defense
    counsel took the opportunity to reargue that the witnesses had made
    inconsistent statements and that the only reason they came up with their
    stories was because of Barber’s impending release from prison. Thus,
    contrary to Barber’s contention on appeal, the additional argument presented
    by the attorneys cannot reasonably be viewed as having “coerced [the juror’s]
    guilty verdicts.” Nor did the trial court take any action or make any
    statements that could be seen as coercing a verdict; the court did not question
    jurors on their views, urge jurors to reach agreement, or indicate a preference
    for a particular verdict. Rather, the court provided both sides a very brief
    opportunity to present additional closing argument. We therefore conclude
    that there is not a reasonable probability that an objection from defense
    counsel to the court’s proposal to reopen closing arguments, even assuming
    that the court would have decided not to allow further argument from
    counsel, would have resulted in a different outcome for Barber.
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    In sum, Barber has not demonstrated that defense counsel’s failure to
    object to the trial court’s proposal to reopen arguments fell below an objective
    standard of reasonableness or that there is a reasonable probability that, but
    for counsel’s allegedly deficient performance, the result of the trial would
    have been different. (Strickland, 
    supra,
     466 U.S. at pp. 686-687.)
    IV.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    AARON, J.
    WE CONCUR:
    HUFFMAN, Acting P. J.
    BUCHANAN, J.
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