People v. Shamblin , 186 Cal. Rptr. 3d 257 ( 2015 )


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  • Filed 4/21/15
    CERTIFIED FOR PARTIAL PUBLICATION
    IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    FOURTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION TWO
    THE PEOPLE,
    Plaintiff and Respondent,                      E059714
    v.                                                     (Super.Ct.No. SWF1101032)
    SHELBY GLENN SHAMBLIN,                                 OPINION
    Defendant and Appellant.
    APPEAL from the Superior Court of Riverside County. Patrick F. Magers, Judge.
    (Retired judge of the Riverside Super. Ct. assigned by the Chief Justice pursuant to art.
    VI, § 6 of the Cal. Const.) Affirmed.
    Joanna McKim, under appointment by the Court of Appeal, for Defendant and
    Appellant.
     Pursuant to California Rules of Court, rules 8.1105(b) and 8.1110, the opinion is
    certified for partial publication, with the exception of part 3 of the Analysis entitled, “The
    trial court’s response to the deliberating jury’s question,” located on pages 33-41.
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    Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General, Julie L. Garland, Assistant Attorney General,
    Barry Carlton and Adrianne S. Denault, Deputy Attorneys General, for Plaintiff and
    Respondent.
    A jury convicted defendant and appellant Shelby Glenn Shamblin of first degree
    murder (Pen. Code,1 § 187, subd. (a), count 1), and he was sentenced to 25 years to life in
    state prison. On appeal, defendant argues that there was insufficient evidence to support
    the conviction under either of the prosecution’s theories—premeditated and deliberate
    murder or felony murder. He also argues that the trial court erred in admitting post-
    Miranda2 statements he made during a police interview and during the booking process.
    Finally, he contends that the trial court erred in responding to the deliberating jury’s note
    seeking clarification on the difference between first and second degree murder. For the
    reasons discussed post, we affirm the judgment.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    1. The 1980 murder and investigation
    In January 1980, Elizabeth Crossman (the victim), a 67-year-old woman, lived
    with her husband, Frank Crossman, in a house on West Florida Avenue in Hemet. The
    1   Unless stated otherwise, all further statutory references are to the Penal Code.
    2   Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 
    384 U.S. 436
    .
    2
    couple’s business, an RV trailer sales company, was located about 200 yards down the
    street from their house.3
    On January 17, 1980, Frank Crossman returned home from work around 5:30 p.m.
    and found his wife dead in their back bedroom. He called the police, who arrived at the
    house around 5:45 p.m. They found the victim lying on the floor in the bedroom under a
    blanket. She was lying on her back, completely nude, and her legs were spread wide
    open. She had bruises on her throat, both thighs, and on the backs of her hands. There
    was semen oozing from her vagina onto the floor beneath her. The police collected
    vaginal swabs and other potential evidence from the scene, but they were unable to solve
    the case and after some time it went “cold.”
    In July 2002, Hemet Police Detective Jeff Dill looked into the case and sent
    vaginal swabs from the evidence file to the Department of Justice (DOJ) Crime Lab for
    DNA analysis.4 A DOJ criminalist was able to extract a single male DNA profile from
    one of the vaginal swabs. Frank Crossman, who had passed away several years before,5
    was excluded as the donor of the male DNA on the swab. The unknown male DNA
    3   The victim owned both the trailer company and the house on West Florida
    Avenue.
    4  In 1980, when the murder occurred, the DOJ did not have DNA testing
    capabilities. The vaginal swabs taken at the scene were frozen and kept in evidence.
    5   He died in approximately 1995.
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    profile obtained from the swab was uploaded to DOJ’s Combined DNA Index System
    (CODIS), a DNA profile database of arrestees and forensic unknowns.6
    In October 2010, a DNA sample was taken from defendant during his arrest on a
    drug charge. This sample was sent to DOJ to be entered into CODIS. Two months later,
    a DOJ criminalist notified Detective Dill that defendant’s DNA had produced a hit in
    CODIS. Detective Dill arrested defendant on February 2, 2011, and the police took
    another DNA sample from him. This second DNA sample matched defendant’s 2010
    DNA sample as well as the DNA recovered from the victim’s vaginal swab.
    2. Defendant’s statements to the police
    During his arrest on February 2, 2011, Detective Dill and another detective
    interviewed defendant at the Hemet police station. After this interview, defendant was
    taken to the Southwest Detention Center for booking. At trial, the prosecution played a
    portion of defendant’s interview and called as a witness the booking deputy to testify as
    to statements defendant made to him during the fingerprinting process. The substance of
    defendant’s interview and his conversation with the deputy is discussed in relevant detail
    in the section 2.a on the admissibility of his statements to the police, post.
    6   The DOJ administers California’s CODIS and the FBI administers the federal
    CODIS.
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    3. The evidence regarding first degree murder
    a. The prosecution’s case
    Elizabeth Crossman was 67 years old. On the day of the incident, January 17,
    1980, Frank Crossman and his son-in-law had lunch with her at the couple’s house on
    West Florida Avenue. Around 1:00 p.m., the men left the house and went back to work.
    When the police arrived at the house around 5:45 p.m. that evening in response to
    Frank Crossman’s call, they found the victim lying on her back, completely nude, in the
    back bedroom of the house. Her legs were spread wide open, and seminal fluid, which
    was later determined to contain defendant’s DNA,7 was oozing from her vagina and was
    also on the carpet directly below her body. She had bruising on the inner part of both
    thighs; the bruising on her left thigh was located on the upper part of her leg near her
    “inguinal” or “genital” area.8 Next to the victim’s body lay her blouse, pants, bra,
    underpants, and shoes. Her pants, though off of her body, “were still fastened in the
    front,” and one of her shoes was lying underneath her right leg and was still tied.
    The People’s forensic expert, Dr. Fajardo, the chief forensic pathologist for
    Riverside County, testified that the victim suffered a blunt-impact injury to the back of
    7 The prosecution presented the chain of events leading up to the matching of
    defendant’s DNA with the DNA found in the victim’s vagina. On appeal, defendant does
    not contest that the DNA inside the victim belonged to him.
    8 We have ordered and reviewed the exhibits in this case and note here that the
    jury was shown photographs of the victim’s genital area depicting visible bruising on her
    upper left thigh, near her vagina.
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    her head that was caused by a significant amount of force, as well as at least three other
    blows to her head.9 The victim had a large hemorrhage on the middle of her neck (near
    her voice box), as well as various other bruises, scratches, and abrasions around her
    throat. The autopsy report concluded that she suffered a broken hyoid bone,10 and the
    deputy coroner who was present during the autopsy testified that he personally observed
    that her hyoid bone had been broken.11 The victim also had bruising on her fingers and
    the backs of her hands, indicating that she tried to defend herself from defendant’s attack.
    Dr. Fajardo concluded that the cause of death was manual strangulation. In his
    opinion, defendant had to have applied continual pressure to the victim’s neck for
    approximately one minute until she lost consciousness and continue to apply pressure for
    another approximately 30 seconds to cause death by strangulation. He testified that,
    while strangulation can be achieved with about seven to nine pounds of pressure, it takes
    “much more pressure to break a bone.” He estimated that in this case, where the victim is
    elderly, defendant must have applied “fifteen to thirty” pounds of pressure to the victim’s
    throat when strangling her. In most strangulation cases that Dr. Fajardo sees, the
    9 To arrive at his opinions, Dr. Fajardo reviewed the victim’s autopsy (performed
    by a Riverside County pathologist who was deceased at the time of trial) as well as the
    photographs taken during the autopsy and at the crime scene.
    10 The hyoid bone is located in the neck just under the chin and serves to anchor
    the neck musculature.
    11 Dr. Fajardo was unable to conclusively confirm from the photographs that the
    victim’s hyoid bone was broken; however, he opined that a broken hyoid bone is a
    reasonable explanation for the hemorrhages on the victim’s throat muscles overlying the
    bone.
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    hemorrhage on the throat area is penny- or dime-sized. Here, the hemorrhage was the
    size of a fifty-cent piece, which he characterized as a “significant hemorrhage” that
    reasonably could have been caused when defendant broke the victim’s hyoid bone.
    Dr. Fajardo testified that, while he did not see any signs of vaginal tearing or
    bruising from the autopsy photographs, it is “not an unusual finding to find minimal
    trauma associated with a rape. Sometimes there is devastating tears, lacerations,
    contusions; sometimes there’s not.”
    The police found no sign of forced entry into the West Florida Avenue home. The
    jury heard evidence that defendant knew the victim and was familiar with her trailer
    company and her house. Defendant’s ex-stepfather testified that he had brought
    defendant to the victim’s property many times and had introduced him to the victim. The
    prosecutor played the recording of defendant’s police interview, in which he initially
    claimed not to know the victim or recall anything about her death However, defendant
    eventually acknowledged during the interview that he knew the victim’s husband and that
    he had been to the trailer company with his stepfather. He admitted that he mowed the
    lawn at the victim’s husband’s house a few miles from the trailer business, but claimed to
    know nothing of the West Florida Avenue house. Despite this statement, he recognized a
    photograph the detectives showed him of the pool in the backyard of the West Florida
    Avenue house. This pool was only visible from the backyard; it could not be seen from
    the street or the front yard.
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    During closing argument, the prosecutor argued that the evidence showed beyond
    a reasonable doubt that defendant committed both premeditated and deliberate murder
    and felony murder (with the underlying felony being rape or attempted rape). Regarding
    premeditation and deliberation, he argued the evidence showed that, at the very least,
    defendant made the cold and calculated decision to take the victim’s life as he was
    strangling her. Regarding felony murder, he argued the evidence showed, at the very
    least, that defendant committed attempted rape, i.e., that he had sex on his mind when he
    came to the victim’s home, and entering her house was the first in a series of acts done
    with the intent to have intercourse with her.12
    b. The defense
    The defendant called a single witness, Dr. Haddix, a forensic pathology expert, to
    criticize conclusions in the autopsy report and opine on the state of evidence of sexual
    assault.13 Dr. Haddix concluded that the victim died of manual strangulation and opined
    that it requires about three to five minutes of continual pressure to kill a person by this
    method, perhaps slightly less if the victim is elderly. She also concluded that the autopsy
    12  Here, the rape would be “attempted” in the sense that defendant intended to
    rape a live victim, but she died before the penetration occurred. (See People v. Jones
    (2012) 
    54 Cal.4th 1
    , 62 [a “ ‘postmortem intercourse’ ” can constitute an attempt to
    commit rape, “ ‘provided it was part of a continuous transaction and the intent to commit
    rape was formed prior to the murder’ ”].)
    13Like Dr. Fajardo, Dr. Haddix reviewed the victim’s autopsy report and the
    autopsy and crime scene photographs to arrive at her opinions.
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    evidence was inconclusive as to whether the sexual assault happened while the victim
    was still alive.
    Dr. Haddix testified that, although the presence of semen inside the victim’s
    vagina showed “that there was some sort of intercourse that happened,” because there
    was no evidence of bruising in or near the vagina, anus, or breasts, it was impossible to
    determine whether that intercourse had taken place before or after the victim’s death.14
    She admitted, however, that in some cases of sexual assault on a living person, there are
    no observable physical injuries. When asked about the bruising on the victim’s thighs,
    she opined that it could have been caused by something other than a sexual assault.
    During closing arguments, defense counsel argued that defendant had not
    committed premeditated and deliberate murder. She characterized the murder as a
    spontaneous killing by a traumatized youth who had run away from an abusive domestic
    situation. She pointed out that, up until the killing, defendant had only gotten in minor
    trouble, and after the killing, had gone on to lead an uneventful life with “no legal
    problems in thirty years.” She referred to a portion of defendant’s police interview when
    he told the detectives “I’m not a cold-blooded killer,” and she referred to the booking
    deputy’s testimony that he detected relief in defendant’s voice after he “admitted that he
    was . . . involved in the death of [the victim].”
    14 Certain wounds, such as bruising, only occur if the injury is inflicted on a
    living person.
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    Defense counsel also argued that the prosecution had not proved beyond a
    reasonable doubt that defendant committed felony murder. She argued that “there’s
    another reasonable interpretation of how it came to be that there was semen in [the
    victim’s] vagina,” namely, that the intercourse and ejaculation occurred after the victim
    had died. She argued that the fact that there was no evidence of trauma to the victim’s
    vagina corroborated the theory that “the sexual assault occurred after she was dead.”15
    ANALYSIS
    1. Sufficiency of the evidence of first degree murder
    Defendant argues that his conviction should be reversed because there was
    insufficient evidence to support a finding of first degree murder under either of the
    prosecution’s theories—premeditated and deliberate murder or felony murder. Because
    we hold that there is substantial evidence to support a finding of both types of first degree
    murder, we affirm the conviction.
    When considering a challenge to the sufficiency of evidence supporting a
    conviction, we must “ ‘review the whole record in the light most favorable to the
    judgment to determine whether it contains substantial evidence—i.e., evidence that is
    credible and of solid value—from which a rational trier of fact could have found the
    defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.’ ” (People v. Jennings (1991) 
    53 Cal.3d 334
    , 364.) Even where the evidence of guilt is primarily circumstantial, the standard of
    15  We note here that, as explained ante, postmortem intercourse is not dispositive
    of the felony murder issue. Defendant could still be convicted of felony murder if he
    attempted to rape a live victim. (Kelly, supra, 1 Cal.4th at pp. 524-525.)
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    appellate review is the same. (People v. Holt (1997) 
    15 Cal.4th 619
    , 668 (Holt) [“ ‘ “ ‘If
    the circumstances reasonably justify the [jury’s] findings, the opinion of the reviewing
    court that the circumstances might also be reasonably reconciled with a contrary finding
    does not warrant a reversal of the judgment’ ” ’ ”].) To succeed under a substantial
    evidence review, defendant must establish that no rational jury could have concluded as it
    did—it does not matter that “the evidence could reasonably be reconciled with a finding
    of innocence or a lesser degree of crime.” (People v. Hill (1998) 
    17 Cal.4th 800
    , 849; see
    People v. Hovarter (2008) 
    44 Cal.4th 983
    , 1015 (Hovarter) [“ ‘ “An appellate court must
    accept logical inferences that the jury might have drawn from the evidence even if the
    court would have concluded otherwise” ’ ”].)
    a. Premeditation and deliberation
    Defendant argues that “[n]o evidence suggested [the] careful thought, weighing of
    considerations and preexisting reflection” necessary to support a finding of premeditation
    and deliberation. We disagree.
    In the context of first degree murder, premeditation means “ ‘considered
    beforehand’ ” (People v. Mayfield (1997) 
    14 Cal.4th 668
    , 767) and deliberation means a
    “ ‘careful weighing of considerations in forming a course of action . . . .’ ” (People v.
    Solomon (2010) 
    49 Cal.4th 792
    , 812). “The process of premeditation and deliberation
    does not require any extended period of time.” (Mayfield, at p. 767 [the true test of
    premeditation is the extent of the reflection, not the length of time].) “ ‘Thoughts may
    follow each other with great rapidity and cold, calculated judgment may be arrived at
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    quickly.’ ” (Ibid.; see id. at pp. 767-768 [where defendant wrested the gun from and
    fatally shot an officer during a brief altercation, the jury could reasonably conclude that
    “before shooting [the officer] defendant had made a cold and calculated decision to take
    [the officer’s] life after weighing considerations for and against”]; People v. Rand (1995)
    
    37 Cal.App.4th 999
    , 1001-1002 [aiming weapon at victims whom shooter believed to be
    rival gang members constituted sufficient evidence of premeditation and deliberation].)
    Courts often use the three factors set forth in People v. Anderson (1968) 
    70 Cal.2d 15
     as a guide to analyzing whether there is substantial evidence of premeditation and
    deliberation. (Id. at pp. 26-27.) Those three factors are: (1) planning activity (i.e., facts
    about what defendant did prior to the killing that show he was engaged in activity
    directed toward killing); (2) motive (i.e., facts about the defendant’s prior relationship
    with the victim from which the jury could reasonably infer a motive to kill the victim);
    and (3) method (i.e., facts about the manner of the killing from which the jury could
    reasonably infer that defendant had a preconceived design to take the victim’s life in a
    particular way). (Ibid.) These factors are not elements of premeditation and
    deliberation,16 however, and the California Supreme Court has held that strangulation as
    16  While the Anderson factors provide a helpful synthesis of prior case law, our
    courts have repeatedly stated that they are not prerequisites for proving premeditation and
    deliberation, nor must the factors “ ‘be present in some special combination or . . . be
    accorded a particular weight.’ ” (People v. Sanchez (1995) 
    12 Cal.4th 1
    , 32-33, overruled
    on another ground in People v. Doolin (2009) 
    45 Cal.4th 390
    , 421, fn. 22; see generally 1
    Witkin & Epstein, Cal. Criminal Law (4th ed. 2012) Crimes Against the Person, § 122,
    p. 917 [Anderson factors are not elements of first degree murder]; id. at § 123, p. 918
    [Anderson factors are not normative but are guides to analysis].)
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    a manner of killing is sufficient evidence of premeditation and deliberation because its
    prolonged nature provides ample time for the killer to consider his actions. (Hovarter,
    
    supra,
     44 Cal.4th at p. 1020 [“This prolonged manner of taking a person’s life, which
    requires an offender to apply constant force to the neck of the victim, affords ample time
    for the offender to consider the nature of his deadly act”].)17
    In People v. Davis (1995) 
    10 Cal.4th 463
    , the court held that the manner of killing
    alone supported a finding of premeditation and deliberation because the evidence showed
    that defendant “pursued [the victim] and then strangled her over a period of up to five
    minutes, at a time when she was severely debilitated and in pain from internal injuries
    [which had been sustained in a car accident].” (Id. at p. 510, original italics; see, e.g.,
    Hovarter, 
    supra,
     44 Cal.4th at pp. 1019-1020 [sufficient evidence of premeditation and
    deliberation where defendant strangled victim for between five and eight minutes];
    People v. Stitely (2005) 
    35 Cal.4th 514
    , 544 (Stitely) [manner of killing suggested
    premeditation where pathologist testified that pressure had been applied to the victim’s
    neck for a “ ‘long’ ” time and the defendant used enough pressure to, inter alia, break the
    victim’s thyroid cartilage].) Thus, where strangulation occurs over a prolonged period of
    17  Despite the fact that the strangulation in Hovarter was accomplished by means
    of a rope (Hovarter, 
    supra,
     44 Cal.4th at p. 990), the court’s reasoning applies to manual
    strangulation with equal force. The court’s premeditation and deliberation conclusion
    was based on the prolonged nature of the act, not on, e.g., the time it takes to procure the
    item used for a ligature strangulation. (Id. at pp. 1019-1020 [focusing on evidence that
    the strangulation could have taken between five and eight minutes].)
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    time, a rational juror could find that the killer committed a premeditated and deliberate
    murder.
    Here, the jury heard expert testimony that the nature and extent of the scratches,
    abrasions, and hemorrhages to the victim’s neck and throat indicate that defendant
    strangled her with his hands, and that this process could have taken anywhere from one to
    five minutes. During this period, defendant applied approximately 15 to 30 pounds of
    pressure to her throat—enough pressure to break her hyoid bone and to cause a
    significant hemorrhage. Because the evidence supports a finding that defendant applied
    significant force to the victim’s neck for a significant period of time, a reasonable juror
    could infer that his actions were not the result of accident, mistake, or uncertainty of
    purpose. Rather, similar to the strangulation cases cited ante, the expert testimony on the
    manner of death and extent of the victim’s injuries here supports a reasonable inference
    that defendant had ample time to consider the consequences of his actions before
    choosing to end her life. As in Davis, supra, the evidence in this case (in the form of
    expert testimony from the defense’s pathologist) supports a finding that defendant
    manually strangled an injured victim for approximately five minutes.
    Additional forensic evidence further supports a reasonable inference that
    defendant had ample time to consider the consequences of his actions as he was attacking
    the victim. Specifically, the jury heard expert testimony that defendant hit her over the
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    head several times,18 and that she tried to fight defendant off. These other actions
    necessarily prolonged the duration of defendant’s attack and thus afforded him additional
    time to deliberate on his decision to kill the victim. We therefore conclude that the
    evidence regarding the manner in which defendant killed the victim is substantial
    evidence of premeditation and deliberation in itself.
    Defendant’s reliance on People v. Rowland (1982) 
    134 Cal.App.3d 1
     for the
    argument that the strangulation was spontaneous as opposed to deliberate is unpersuasive.
    Rowland is a case where the court found, on the limited evidence in the record, that the
    mere fact that the victim was strangled with an electric cord was insufficient to support a
    finding of premeditation and deliberation. (Id. at pp. 8-10.) Since Rowland, the
    California Supreme Court has held that strangulation that takes place over several
    minutes affords the killer ample time to think over the consequences of his action. (See
    Davis, 
    supra,
     10 Cal.4th at p. 510; Hovarter, 
    supra,
     44 Cal.4th at pp. 1019-1020; Stitely,
    
    supra,
     35 Cal.4th at pp. 514, 544, cited ante.) Not only did Rowland predate this
    precedent, but also it is a case where there was no expert testimony about the length of
    time it took to kill the victim or about the extent of the victim’s injuries. For these
    reasons Rowland does not affect our conclusion that the evidence in this case supports a
    finding of prolonged strangulation and, as a result, premeditation and deliberation.
    18 Dr. Fajardo pointed out to the jury “three[,] at least[,] separate impacts ranging
    about an inch to an inch and a half” on the back of the victim’s head.
    15
    Furthermore, defendant’s strangulation argument ignores our task in a substantial
    evidence review. When presented with two reasonable inferences that can be drawn from
    the evidence, we must uphold the inference that supports the conviction. “ ‘Although it is
    the duty of the jury to acquit a defendant if it finds that circumstantial evidence is
    susceptible of two interpretations, one of which suggests guilt and the other innocence
    [citations], it is the jury, not the appellate court which must be convinced of the
    defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. “ ‘If the circumstances reasonably justify
    the trier of fact’s findings, the opinion of the reviewing court that the circumstances
    might also be reasonably reconciled with a contrary finding does not warrant a reversal of
    the judgment [citations].’ ” ’ ” (Holt, supra, 15 Cal.4th at p. 668.) Thus, even if it would
    have been reasonable for the jury to infer that the act of strangulation meant that the
    killing was spontaneous, the fact that it is also reasonable for it to infer that strangulation
    indicated premeditation and deliberation requires us to uphold the conviction.
    We note here that while the evidence regarding the manner of killing is sufficient
    to support a finding of first degree murder, there is also evidence tending to support the
    other two Anderson factors—motive and planning. This is because the jury could infer
    from the evidence of sexual assault at the murder scene (i.e., defendant’s semen was in
    the victim’s vagina and the victim had bruising on her upper thighs, including bruising in
    the inguinal area of her left thigh) that defendant’s motive for strangling the victim was
    “ ‘to avoid detection for the sexual and other physical abuses he had committed against
    her.’ ” (Hovarter, supra, 44 Cal.4th at p. 1019 [stating that “[t]he motive of eliminating
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    possible witnesses” in cases involving rape is “inferable from the circumstances of such
    crimes,” and finding evidence of premeditation and deliberation based on fact that victim
    had been sexually assaulted and strangled to death]; see, e.g., Stitely, 
    supra,
     35 Cal.4th at
    p. 543 [where victim was found lying on the ground with her skirt pulled up, semen in
    her anus and vagina, and strangulation marks on her throat, court found that “[t]he jury
    could reasonably have believed that defendant [strangled the victim] ‘to silence her as a
    possible witness to her own sexual assault’ ”].)
    As to planning, courts have found that planning activity can happen during an
    altercation itself and “over a short period of time . . . .” (See, e.g., People v. Sanchez,
    supra, 12 Cal.4th at p. 34, italics added [planning activity occurred during the altercation,
    in the moments that the son sought out and obtained a kitchen knife to kill his father].)
    Here, the jury could reasonably infer that defendant devised the plan to kill the victim to
    avoid detection for the sexual assault during or after the sexual assault, and that he
    applied pressure to her neck for up to five minutes to carry out that plan.
    In sum, based on the entire record, a reasonable jury could find that defendant, a
    young man who knew the 67-year-old victim, entered her home when she was alone for
    the purpose of sexually assaulting her, and at some point during the attack began the
    deliberate process of manually strangling her. We conclude that there is substantial
    evidence in the record to support a finding of premeditation and deliberation, and we
    affirm the conviction of first degree murder on this ground.
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    b. Felony murder: rape or attempted rape
    Defendant contends that his felony murder conviction should be reversed because
    there is insufficient evidence that he “formed an intent to rape [the victim] prior to or
    during the murder.” We disagree.
    Murder perpetrated in the course of a rape or attempted rape is felony murder,
    which is first degree murder. (§ 189.) The murder is considered perpetrated in the course
    of a rape or attempted rape if the acts were part of a “continuous transaction.” (People v.
    Booker (2011) 
    51 Cal.4th 141
    , 175 (Booker).) The requisite mental state for felony
    murder is a specific intent to commit the underlying felony. (People v. Cavitt (2004) 
    33 Cal.4th 187
    , 197.)
    The Penal Code defines rape as “an act of sexual intercourse accomplished with a
    person not the spouse of the perpetrator [¶] . . . [¶] against the person’s will by means of
    force [or] violence.” (§ 261, subd. (a)(2).) Attempted rape occurs where “the defendant
    formed the specific intent to commit the crime of rape and performed a direct but
    ineffectual act, beyond mere preparation, leading toward the commission of a rape.”
    (People v. Rundle (2008) 
    43 Cal.4th 76
    , 138 (Rundle), overruled on another ground in
    People v. Doolin (2009) 
    45 Cal.4th 390
    , 421, fn. 22; see § 21a.) “A defendant’s specific
    intent to commit rape may be inferred from the facts and circumstances shown by the
    evidence.” (People v. Clark (2011) 
    52 Cal.4th 856
    , 948 (Clark).) Evidence of rape or
    attempted rape includes “trauma to the body or sexual organs, or the presence of the
    perpetrator’s bodily fluids.” (Rundle, at p. 139.)
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    Here, the victim was found bearing the indicators of rape—she was completely
    nude with her legs spread wide apart, had sustained bruising on her thighs—including in
    the inguinal area near her genitalia—and defendant’s semen was inside her vagina. This
    evidence alone substantially supports a finding of rape.
    Defendant argues that he had intercourse with the victim after he killed her and, as
    such, he cannot be guilty of rape.19 He contends that the evidence of sexual assault is
    insufficient to support a conclusion that the assault happened when the victim was alive.
    To support his postmortem intercourse theory, defendant asserts that: (1) she suffered no
    visible vaginal injuries, (2) her clothes were not torn or ripped, and (3) her defensive
    injuries were “likely sustained while deflecting the strangulation.”
    Defendant’s argument fails under a substantial evidence review. As explained
    ante, we must accept the reasonable inferences supporting the verdict over any inferences
    (even if reasonable) proffered by defendant. (See Rundle, 
    supra,
     43 Cal.4th at p. 137 [if
    there is substantial evidence supporting the verdict, it is insufficient for a defendant to
    cite to “various items of evidence in isolation . . . arguing each could be viewed as
    pointing to his innocence of the charge rather than his guilt. Even if defendant’s premise
    is correct”].) Here, reasonable inferences can be drawn from the evidence defendant cites
    ante that support a finding of rape.
    19  Defendant cites to the rule that the crime of rape requires a live victim (see,
    e.g., Kelly, supra, 1 Cal.4th at p. 524) and to the rule that where the intent to commit the
    underlying felony is formed after the victim is dead, the felony murder doctrine is not
    applicable (People v. Jeter (1964) 
    60 Cal.2d 671
    , 676-677).
    19
    First, defendant’s focus on the lack of injuries to the victim’s vagina ignores the
    fact that she sustained bruising to her upper thighs, including in the inguinal area of the
    leg, which is near the genitals. While a juror could reasonably infer that these thigh
    injuries were caused by something other than sexual assault, for example, from defendant
    kneeling between the victim’s legs while he strangled her, a juror could also reasonably
    infer that they were caused by defendant’s attempts to spread her legs and penetrate her.
    Furthermore, the absence of vaginal injuries is not in itself dispositive on the issue of
    rape. (See, e.g., Stitely, 
    supra,
     35 Cal.4th at p. 542 [“the lack of vaginal injury does not
    preclude the jury from finding rape or prevent this court from upholding that
    determination on appeal”].) Both forensic pathology experts testified that there can be
    instances of rape where the victim suffers no visible physical injuries to the vagina.
    Second, regarding the state of the victim’s clothing, the location and condition of
    the items supports a reasonable inference that they were taken off by someone other than
    the victim, in a hurry, with no time to unfasten or untie some of them. The fact that a
    reasonable juror could have also concluded that defendant slid the victim’s fastened pants
    off her after she was dead is of no consequence to the conviction in light of a reasonably
    plausible explanation that supports the conviction.
    Third, regarding the defensive wounds, again, while it is reasonable to infer that
    they were sustained during an attempt to deflect strangulation, it is equally reasonable to
    infer that they were sustained during an attempt to deflect a sexual assault. This is
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    especially so given the presence of defendant’s semen in the victim’s vagina and the
    bruises on her thighs.
    Moreover, even if we accept defendant’s argument that there was no struggle
    during intercourse, the jury could still reasonably infer that the victim was raped.
    Namely, where there is an absence of “signs of a struggle—such as trauma to [the
    victim’s] body or damage to her clothing” a jury can reasonably infer that this “was the
    result of her surrender to defendant’s demands in the hopes of surviving the ordeal, rather
    than proof she was . . . dead when she was undressed.” (Rundle, 
    supra,
     43 Cal.4th at
    p. 139.)
    Even assuming that defendant did not have intercourse with the victim until after
    she died, there is nevertheless substantial evidence that he committed attempted rape
    during the same continuous transaction as the murder. Specifically, the two elements of
    attempted rape are substantially supported by the record—the jury could reasonably find
    that defendant formed the intent to rape the victim before or as he strangled her and it
    could find that his physical attack on her was a direct act toward the commission of the
    rape. (See Clark, supra, 52 Cal.4th at p. 948 [“The crime of attempted rape has two
    elements: (1) the specific intent to commit the crime of rape and (2) a direct, although
    ineffectual, act toward its commission”].) That the intercourse defendant was intending
    to perform before or as he murdered the victim actually occurred after she was dead is of
    no consequence to his conviction. (See, e.g., Booker, 
    supra,
     51 Cal.4th at p. 175
    [“Intercourse after death does not necessarily negate the felony-murder rule” and may
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    constitute attempted rape if the defendant intended to rape a live victim]; People v. Kelly
    (1992) 1 Cal.4th at 495, 524-526 [same].)
    Defendant argues that the facts here are analogous to cases where courts found
    insufficient evidence of rape or attempted rape. However, the cases defendant cites are
    inapposite because they involve murders where the only evidence of rape or attempted
    rape is the nudity or partial nudity and the positioning of the victims’ dead bodies.
    Defendant cites to People v. Craig (1957) 
    49 Cal.2d 313
     (Craig), where the victim
    was found dead at a service station, lying on her back under a car with her legs “spread
    slightly apart.” (Id. at p. 316.) She was wearing a raincoat over a nightgown and
    underwear, all of which had been ripped to some extent. (Ibid.) The court rejected the
    argument that the state of the victim’s clothing and her slightly spread legs supported a
    finding of rape or attempted rape, reasoning that the evidence was consistent with the fact
    that she had been dragged several feet. (Id. at p. 319.) The court concluded that—
    without evidence that defendant had ever seen the victim before he spontaneously
    murdered her or evidence “of semen or spermatazoa . . . on either the clothing of the
    decedent or the defendant”—the record demonstrated “no more than the infliction of
    multiple acts of violence on the victim.” (Id. at pp. 317-319.) Defendant also cites to
    People v. Johnson (1993) 
    6 Cal.4th 1
    , where the court found that the victim’s partially
    unclothed body (the only potential evidence of rape or attempted rape) was insufficient
    evidence to support a finding of felony murder. (Id. at pp. 39, 42.)
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    In relying on these cases, defendant overlooks the fact that, while nudity or body
    position may not by themselves be sufficient evidence of rape or attempted rape, they are
    nevertheless relevant circumstances to take into account, especially where there is other
    evidence of a sexual assault. (See Rundle, 
    supra,
     43 Cal.4th at p. 139 [stating that while
    “the circumstance of the victim’s being found partially or wholly unclothed is not by
    itself sufficient to prove a rape or an attempted rape has occurred, such a fact . . . is one of
    the relevant circumstances,” as is a lack of “evidence tending to show a sexual assault did
    not occur”], italics added.)
    Here, unlike in Craig and Johnson, there is ample evidence of rape or attempted
    rape aside from the victim’s nudity and the positioning of her legs. Not only did the
    victim exhibit bruising near her genitals, but also—more significantly—defendant’s
    semen was found inside her vagina. (See Craig, supra, 49 Cal.2d at p. 317 [presence of
    seminal fluids on the victim would constitute evidence of rape or attempted rape].)
    We conclude that there is substantial evidence in the record to support a
    conviction of felony murder based on rape or attempted rape, and we affirm the
    conviction of first degree murder on this ground as well.
    2. Admissibility of defendant’s statements to the police
    Defendant contends that the trial court erred when it admitted statements he made
    to detectives during an interview and to a deputy during booking. We conclude the
    statements were properly admitted.
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    a. Defendant’s statements to the detectives
    During his arrest on February 2, 2011, Detective Dill and another detective
    interviewed defendant about the victim’s murder. After advising him of his Miranda
    rights, the detectives asked him if he had any questions about his rights and he said, “Not
    at this time, but if I change my mind I’ll let you know. [¶] I want to cooperate with you
    guys . . . .”
    The detectives told defendant that his name had come up in relation to a 1980 case
    involving the victim. Defendant denied knowing the victim, but said that he knew her
    husband from doing odd-jobs for his trailer company and from mowing the lawn at one
    of his houses (which was not the West Florida Avenue house). After the detectives told
    him that there was overwhelming evidence, including DNA, that he had been at the
    victim’s house on West Florida Avenue the day she was murdered, defendant said, “I
    think I probably should change my mind about the lawyer now. I, I need advice here.
    Don’t you guys think I need some advice here? I think I need some advice here.”
    The detectives told defendant that they would take a break to let him “think about
    it for a few minutes,” that a lot of people had to live with the murder for 31 years, and
    that only he could tell his side of the story. Defendant agreed this was “fair” and stated,
    “forty-eight[-year-old] Shelby doesn’t want to have to take care of anything that
    seventeen[-year-old] Shelby did.”
    After the break, the detectives asked defendant if he wanted to know what
    evidence they had against him and he replied that he did not. Defendant then stated, “I
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    really don’t want to continue the interview without at least seeking some advice. You
    guys understand right? And I understand what you have to do and let’s just do it, I don’t
    want to talk about it anymore. Not without some advice.”
    Before trial, defendant moved to suppress his statements, arguing that the entire
    interview should be excluded as involuntary or, in the alternative, that everything after
    his first reference to an attorney (i.e., “I think I probably should change my mind about
    the lawyer now. . .”) should be excluded because that statement was a clear invocation of
    his right against self-incrimination. The court found that defendant’s first clear
    invocation of his right to counsel was not his first reference to counsel but rather his
    second: “I really don’t want to continue the interview without at least seeking some
    advice.” This second reference came soon after the first reference and the ensuing break.
    The court ruled that everything up to the invocation was admissible and that everything
    after and including the invocation would be excluded.
    At trial, the prosecutor played a recording of the interview for the jury, but stopped
    the recording when the detectives took a break. Hence, the jury heard the following
    incriminating statement that came immediately after defendant’s first reference to an
    attorney: “forty-eight[-year-old] Shelby doesn’t want to have to take care of anything
    that seventeen[-year-old] Shelby did.”
    Defendant argues that the trial court’s ruling was error. He asserts that the
    statement, “I, I think I probably should change my mind about the lawyer now. I, I need
    advice here. Don’t you guys think I need some advice here? I think I need advice here,”
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    was a clear and unequivocal invocation of his right to counsel, and that it was error to
    admit the incriminating statement that followed.
    In reviewing a trial court’s Miranda ruling, we accept the court’s resolution of
    disputed facts and inferences and its evaluations of credibility, if supported by substantial
    evidence, and we independently determine, from the undisputed facts and facts properly
    found by the trial court, whether the challenged statement was illegally obtained. (People
    v. Bacon (2010) 
    50 Cal.4th 1082
    , 1105 (Bacon).) Where, as here, a defendant’s
    statements to the police are undisputed, “we engage in a de novo review of the legal
    question of whether the statement at issue was [admissible].” (Ibid.)
    If a defendant waives his right to counsel after receiving Miranda warnings, police
    officers are free to question him. (North Carolina v. Butler (1979) 
    441 U.S. 369
    , 372-
    376.) If, postwaiver, a defendant requests counsel, the officers must cease further
    questioning until a lawyer has been made available or the defendant reinitiates. (Edwards
    v. Arizona (1981) 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 484-485.) However, the request for counsel must be
    articulated “unambiguously” and “sufficiently clearly that a reasonable police officer in
    the circumstances would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney.”
    (Davis v. United States (1994) 
    512 U.S. 452
    , 459 (Davis) [whether a defendant has
    invoked the right to counsel is an “objective inquiry”].) If a defendant’s reference to an
    attorney is ambiguous or equivocal in that “a reasonable officer in light of the
    circumstances would have understood only that the suspect might be invoking the right to
    counsel, [precedent does] not require the cessation of questioning.” (Ibid.)
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    Courts have found references to requests for attorneys to be objectively equivocal
    where a defendant uses conditional language or ambiguities. For example, in Bacon, the
    court held that the defendant’s statement—“ ‘I think it’d probably be a good idea for me
    to get an attorney’ ”—was equivocal and ambiguous for its use of the “ ‘several
    ambiguous qualifying words . . . ‘I think,’ ‘probably,’ and ‘it’d.’ ” (Bacon, 
    supra,
     50
    Cal.4th at pp. 1104-1105; see, e.g., Davis, supra, 512 U.S. at pp. 455, 462 [the statement
    “ ‘Maybe I should talk to a lawyer’ ” was not an objectively clear and unambiguous
    request for counsel]; Stitely, 
    supra,
     35 Cal.4th at p. 535 [the statement “ ‘I think it’s about
    time for me to stop talking’ ” was an ambiguous reference to the defendant’s Miranda
    rights]; People v. Sauceda-Contreras (2012) 
    55 Cal.4th 203
    , 215-216, 219 [the statement
    “ ‘If you can bring me a lawyer . . . that way I can tell you everything that I know and
    everything that I need to tell you and someone to represent me,’ ” was ambiguous and
    equivocal as well as “conditional in that it began with an inquiry as to whether a lawyer
    could be brought to defendant”], original italics.)
    Here, defendant’s statement—“I think I probably should change my mind about
    the lawyer now. . . . I think I need some advice here”—contains language that is
    conditional (“should”) and equivocal (“I think” and “probably”). As the court held in
    Bacon, these ambiguous qualifying words convey to a reasonable officer only that
    defendant might want to invoke his right to counsel, not that he is unambiguously
    expressing his desire to terminate the interview. (Bacon, supra, 50 Cal.4th at pp. 1104-
    1105.) Under our Miranda cases, words like “probably” and “I think” indicate to an
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    objective listener that defendant did not have a clear intention to invoke his right to
    counsel, but was only considering the possibility of doing so. (See, e.g., ibid.)
    Furthermore, that defendant did not intend to terminate the interview is clear from
    the exchange that immediately followed. In response to his reference to an attorney, the
    detectives told defendant that they would take a break so he could “think about it for a
    few minutes.” The detectives told defendant that after a few minutes they would “come
    back and talk” and defendant agreed this was “fair.” When the detectives came back
    from the break they asked defendant if he wanted to know the evidence they had against
    him and he said, “Actually I don’t want to hear it. . . . I really don’t want to continue the
    interview without at least seeking some advice.” This statement contains direct and
    unambiguous language of intent (“I really don’t want to”) and demonstrates that
    defendant knew how to convey his request for counsel clearly and straightforwardly.
    When compared to this unambiguous request for counsel, it was reasonable for the
    detectives to interpret defendant’s first reference to a lawyer as equivocal. We therefore
    conclude that the defendant’s first invocation of his right to counsel was when he said “I
    really don’t want to continue the interview without at least seeking some advice,” not
    when he said “I think I probably should change my mind about the lawyer now.”
    The three cases defendant cites in support of his argument that his first reference
    to an attorney was a clear and unambiguous invocation are unpersuasive. Two of the
    cases are inapposite because they involve undisputed invocations of the defendants’
    Miranda rights and the specific issue of whether subsequent incriminating statements by
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    defendant were spontaneous or the result of post-invocation interrogation. (See People v.
    Sims (1993) 
    5 Cal.4th 405
    , 437, 442 [noting that after officer advised defendant of his
    Miranda rights, “[d]efendant stated he would not waive his rights and signed the
    admonition form so indicating,” and finding that defendant’s subsequent confession “was
    not spontaneous or volunteered, but rather the product of the ‘functional equivalent’ of
    interrogation”]; People v. Bradford (1997) 
    14 Cal.4th 1005
    , 1025, 1035-1037 [noting that
    after police “informed defendant of his Miranda rights . . . [and] asked, ‘Do you wish to
    give up the right to remain silent?’ ” defendant replied, “ ‘No. I want my lawyer,’ ” and
    finding that subsequent questioning of defendant was interrogational].)
    The third case, People v. Peracchi (2001) 
    86 Cal.App.4th 353
    , is inapposite
    because there the court found that the officer’s follow up questions to defendant’s
    statement “ ‘ “I don’t think I can talk,” ’ ” clearly evidenced that the officer
    acknowledged that the defendant had invoked his right to remain silent and that he was
    asking him why he had invoked his rights. (Id. at pp. 358, 361 [“the questions here were
    not directed at whether [the defendant] was invoking his right to silence . . . . Instead, the
    questions asked why he did not wish to waive his rights. This inquiry itself assumes that
    [the defendant] had invoked his right to remain silent. Officers have no legitimate need
    or reason to inquire into the reasons why a suspect wishes to remain silent.”].) In other
    words, none of these cases shed light on the specific issue here—the effect of language
    like “I think” and “probably” on a reasonable officer’s interpretation of whether a
    defendant is invoking his Miranda rights.
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    Defendant’s argument that the detectives were required to ask clarifying questions
    to determine what he meant when he said that he should “probably” change his mind
    about the lawyer is incorrect. Officers are not required to ask clarifying questions when a
    suspect makes an ambiguous or equivocal statement. “[W]hen the officers conducting
    the questioning reasonably do not know whether or not the suspect wants a lawyer, a rule
    requiring the immediate cessation of questioning ‘would transform the Miranda
    safeguards into wholly irrational obstacles to legitimate police investigative activity.’ ”
    (Davis, supra, 512 U.S. at p. 460; see Bacon, 
    supra,
     50 Cal.4th at pp. 1104-1105 [officers
    were not required to cease questioning or ask clarifying questions in response to
    defendant’s equivocal and ambiguous statement of “ ‘I think it’d probably be a good idea
    for me to get an attorney’ ”].)
    We find no error in the trial court’s admissibility ruling.
    b. Defendant’s statements during the booking process
    After his interview with the detectives, defendant was taken to the Southwest
    Detention Center for booking and a deputy from the Riverside County Sheriff’s
    Department administered defendant’s fingerprinting. At trial, the prosecution called the
    deputy as a witness. The deputy testified that during fingerprinting he asked defendant
    when he had last been booked. Defendant responded that he had last been booked in
    October 2010, and added that “he knew he was caught when they took his DNA sample
    last time he was booked in.” The deputy testified that in response to this statement he
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    “asked him why,” and defendant replied, “Well, how do you get away with leaving DNA
    inside her? I knew eventually I’d be—I knew I’d be caught sooner or later.”
    Before trial, defendant moved to suppress his statements to the deputy on the
    ground that the deputy’s questions were designed to interrogate. The trial court ruled that
    the statements were admissible, finding that the deputy did not intend to elicit
    incriminating information from defendant and that the situation did not amount to a
    custodial interrogation. On appeal, defendant renews his argument, asserting that the
    deputy’s questions did not fall under the “routine booking question exception” to
    Miranda’s requirements.
    As with defendant’s statements to the detectives, his statements to the deputy are
    undisputed, and therefore we review their admissibility de novo. (Bacon, supra, 50
    Cal.4th at p. 1105.) Whether custodial questioning falls under Miranda’s booking
    exception depends on “ ‘whether the questions are legitimate booking questions or a
    pretext for eliciting incriminating information.’ ” (People v. Williams (2013) 
    56 Cal.4th 165
    , 187.) Booking questions that do not rise to the level of interrogation are those
    questions “ ‘normally attendant to arrest and custody,’ ” i.e., questions police ask in the
    conduct of their “normal administrative duties.” (People v. Andreasen (2013) 
    214 Cal.App.4th 70
    , 86-89 [guarding officers’ casual conversation with the defendant during
    the booking process that “never mentioned the offense or distinctions between right and
    wrong, but concerned neutral topics about defendant’s interests and life” were
    “permissible casual conversation normally attendant to a custody situation” even though
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    they elicited incriminating responses from the defendant]; see, e.g., People v. Gamache
    (2010) 
    48 Cal.4th 347
    , 384, 387-388 [booking deputy’s questions during fingerprinting
    about whether the defendant had previously been in the military were not interrogational
    even though the defendant offered incriminating remarks in response].) “The fact that
    information gathered from these routine questions or casual conversations turns out to be
    incriminating does not alone render the statements inadmissible.” (Andreasen, at p. 87.)
    The routine booking question exception applies “even when a defendant has already
    received Miranda warnings and invoked his or her rights.” (Ibid.)
    In People v. Gamache, 
    supra,
     
    48 Cal.4th 347
    , the deputy taking the defendant’s
    fingerprints asked him whether he had ever served in the military and whether he enjoyed
    it. (Id. at p. 384.) The defendant responded that he had and then continued on, stating
    “ ‘I fucked up. I knew better. I should have used a .45.’ ” (Ibid.) The deputy then asked
    the defendant “what had happened,” and the defendant replied with several incriminating
    statements describing how he had murdered a woman. (Ibid.) On appeal, the court held
    that the defendant’s incriminating statements were admissible because the deputy’s
    military questions were “innocuous” routine booking questions and his follow up
    questions in response to defendant’s remarks were “ ‘ “neutral inquir[ies]” ’ ” that were
    not interrogational. (Id. at pp. 387-388.)
    Similarly here, the deputy’s question about the last time defendant was booked is
    innocuous and common to the booking process, and his response to defendant’s
    seemingly incriminating response (i.e., “why” did he know he was “caught”) was a
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    neutral follow up question. At the suppression hearing, the deputy testified that the
    questions he asked of defendant were routine (“I talked to him the same way I talk to
    everybody being booked in”), and that he had no information about the charges against
    defendant. We thus conclude that it is clear from the record that the deputy’s questions
    fall squarely under the routine booking exception and that the trial court did not err in
    admitting the deputy’s testimony about defendant’s incriminating response to those
    questions.20
    3. The trial court’s response to the deliberating jury’s question
    At trial, the court instructed the jury on, among other things, the definition and
    elements of first degree and second degree murder. The court first defined murder, then
    it defined the elements of first degree murder for each of the prosecution’s theories
    (premeditated and deliberate murder and felony murder). The court also explained that
    “[m]urder which is not of the first degree is murder of the second degree.” 21
    Because the prosecution had charged defendant with first degree murder under
    two different theories, the court instructed the jury that it could not find defendant guilty
    of first degree murder unless each juror agreed that the prosecution had proved beyond a
    20 I.e., defendant’s statement, “Well, how do you get away with leaving DNA
    inside her? I knew eventually I’d be—I knew I’d be caught sooner or later.”
    21The trial court used the following instructions regarding first and second degree
    murder: for the definition of murder and malice aforethought—the 1979 version of
    CALJIC 8.10 and 8.11, for the definition of deliberate and premeditated murder—the
    1979 version of CALJIC 8.20, and for the definition of felony murder—CALCRIM
    540A.
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    reasonable doubt that defendant had committed first degree murder. The court further
    instructed that each juror need not agree, however, on the same theory of first degree
    murder in order to convict defendant of that offense.
    During deliberations, the jury sent a note to the court that read, “Can you clarify
    second-degree murder? First-degree versus second-degree? Differences?” The court
    proposed the following response to the prosecution and defense: “Murder is defined in
    CALJIC Instruction 8.10/8.11. Murder of the first degree is defined in CALJIC 8.20,
    which is deliberated, premeditated murder, and also defined in Instruction 540A, which is
    felony murder. All other murder is of the second degree.”
    Defense counsel stated that the response was acceptable, but the prosecutor
    remarked, “I don’t know that’s going to clarify what I assume their question is, you
    know, that there are two theories of first, and second is only as to the first theory without
    premeditation and deliberation.” The court stated, “I didn’t read that into the question. I
    think this answers the question. If it doesn’t, we will get another question.” After this
    exchange, defense counsel again voiced its agreement with the court, stating “[t]he
    court’s response is acceptable to defense.” After deciding its response was appropriate,
    the court gave it to the jury.
    Defendant claims that the trial court incorrectly responded to the jury’s question.
    We conclude that the error was not preserved for appeal due to defendant’s approval of
    the court’s response and that, in any event, the claim is meritless.
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    a. Defendant waived any claim of error
    A trial court’s response to a deliberating jury’s question regarding the elements of
    a charged crime is governed by section 1138. This section requires the court to give
    notice to the prosecutor and defendant or defense counsel before providing the jury with
    any information “on any point of law arising in the case.” (§ 1138.)
    “When a trial court decides to respond to a jury’s note, counsel’s silence waives
    any objection under section 1138.” (People v. Roldan (2005) 
    35 Cal.4th 646
    , 729
    (Roldan).) Counsel’s “[a]pproval of the court’s action, even though it might have been a
    technical violation of section 1138 . . . cures any possible error.” (Ibid.; see e.g., People
    v. Rodrigues (1994) 
    8 Cal.4th 1060
    , 1193 [where deliberating jury sought clarification on
    penalty instructions, defendant’s approval of the court’s response waived his claim on
    appeal that the response was error].)
    Here, because the court presented defense counsel with the full text of its proposed
    response and defense counsel stated that the response was “acceptable,” defendant has
    waived any possible error in the response.
    We disagree with defendant’s contention that under People v. Frye (1998) 
    18 Cal.4th 894
     and People v. Loza (2012) 
    207 Cal.App.4th 332
     his claim is not waived
    because it implicates his constitutional right to a fair trial. Neither of these cases holds
    that a section 1138 claim cannot be waived because it implicates a defendant’s
    constitutional right to a fair trial. In Frye, the court explicitly refused to decide the issue
    of whether the violation of section 1138 at issue implicated defendant’s constitutional
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    right to a fair trial such that his claim could not be waived. (Frye, at p. 1007 [“We need
    not resolve defendant’s claim on the basis of counsel’s acquiescence, however”].) In
    Loza, the court held that the defendant had forfeited her claim of trial court error under
    section 1138 by failing to object at trial.22 (Loza, at p. 350.)
    b. The trial court did not err
    Even if defendant had not waived his claim of a violation of section 1138, the trial
    court’s response was not error. “When a jury asks a question after retiring for
    deliberation, ‘[s]ection 1138 imposes upon the court a duty to provide the jury with
    information the jury desires on points of law.’ ” (People v. Eid (2010) 
    187 Cal.App.4th 859
    , 881-882) “This does not mean the court must always elaborate on the standard
    instructions. Where the original instructions are themselves full and complete, the court
    has discretion under section 1138 to determine what additional explanations are sufficient
    to satisfy the jury’s request for information.” (People v. Montero (2007) 
    155 Cal.App.4th 1170
    , 1179.) Indeed, comments or additional explanations “ ‘ “diverging from the
    standard are often risky.” ’ ” (Ibid.) We review a trial court’s decision regarding
    additional explanations under section 1138 under the abuse of discretion standard.
    (People v. Waidla (2000) 
    22 Cal.4th 690
    , 745-746 (Waidla).)
    Here, the original instructions regarding first and second degree murder were
    taken from CALCRIM as well as the 1979 version of CALJIC and were full and
    22 The court proceeded to analyze the section 1138 issue under the defendant’s
    claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. (Loza, supra, 207 Cal.App.4th at pp. 350-
    352.)
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    complete in themselves. The instructions set forth the elements of murder, of the
    premeditation and deliberation required for first degree murder, and of first degree felony
    murder based on rape or attempted rape. The instructions then explained that “[m]urder
    which is not of the first degree is murder of the second degree.” These instructions are
    sufficiently clear on the point about which defendant is concerned—that the jurors
    understood that if they found he murdered the victim but were unable to find he
    premeditated and deliberated the murder and were unable to find he committed felony
    murder, they were to convict him of second degree murder.
    Because the original instructions were full and complete, the trial court had
    discretion to respond to the deliberating jury’s question just as it did, namely, by
    rereading the instructions regarding those crimes. Indeed, because the original
    instructions correctly instructed the jury as to what constitutes first versus second degree
    murder, any additional comment on the instructions could have risked weighing against
    the defendant’s interest. (See Roldan, 
    supra,
     35 Cal.4th at p. 730 [“By declining to
    object, a defense attorney might believe [the court’s response] is favorable to his or her
    client,” and courts should not “give defendant a second bite at the apple” on appeal].)
    Indeed, such a concern may have informed defense counsel’s approval of the court’s
    response. We conclude that the trial court did not abuse its discretion by determining that
    no additional explanation beyond the instructions was necessary.
    Defendant argues that the trial court’s specific error was that it did not tell the
    jurors that “second degree murder mean[s] murder without premeditation and
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    deliberation.” Because this response would have been technically incorrect, defendant’s
    claim of error necessarily fails.
    Defendant’s preferred response is incorrect because it ignores the fact that the
    prosecution charged defendant with first degree murder both under a premeditated and
    deliberate murder theory and under a felony-murder theory. Because defendant was
    charged under both theories, a lack of premeditation and deliberation would not
    necessarily mean that defendant must instead be convicted of second degree murder. In
    other words, a jury could find no premeditation and deliberation but still find that
    defendant had committed first degree murder (under the felony-murder theory).
    Moreover, even if defendant’s preferred explanation were correct and appropriate, his
    claim fails under an abuse of discretion review. The choice of multiple correct and
    appropriate ways to respond to a deliberating jury’s questions lies solely with the trial
    court and it is not error to choose one appropriate response over another. (See Waidla,
    
    supra,
     22 Cal.4th at pp. 745-746 [court exercises supervision over a deliberating jury and
    may exercise its discretion regarding how to respond to jury questions].)
    Defendant also argues that the jury’s question demonstrated that it did not
    understand the instructions for first and second degree murder and, as a result, the trial
    court was required to clarify the instructions (as opposed to rereading them). Defendant’s
    reliance on Loza, for support is misplaced. That case involved instructions on the intent
    element of aiding and abetting which were regarded as “ ‘confusing’ ” and requiring
    modification. (Loza, supra, 207 Cal.App.4th at pp. 354-357, citing to People v. Nero
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    (2010) 
    181 Cal.App.4th 504
    , 518 [“the aider and abettor instructions—namely, CALJIC
    No. 3.00—are confusing and should be modified”].) Moreover, the court found that the
    jury’s question regarding the requisite intent for aiding and abetting indicated that it was
    going to apply incorrect law in reaching its verdict. (Loza, at pp. 354-355.) Here, unlike
    in Loza, the original instructions on first and second degree murder were straightforward
    and complete and there was no indication from the jury’s question that it was not going to
    follow the correct law in reaching its verdict.
    c. Any error was harmless
    Assuming the trial court erred and defendant did not waive the error by approving
    the court’s response, the error is not reversible unless it was prejudicial. Defendant
    argues that he would have obtained a more favorable outcome had the trial court instead
    responded, “second degree murder [means] murder without premeditation and
    deliberation.” We do not agree.
    A trial court’s “failure under section 1138 to adequately answer the jury’s question
    ‘is subject to the prejudice standard of People v. Watson [(1956)] 
    46 Cal.2d 818
    , 836,’
    i.e., whether the error resulted in a reasonable probability of a less favorable outcome.”
    (Eid, supra, 187 Cal.App.4th at p. 882 [in this context, “reasonable probability” means
    ‘ “a reasonable chance, more than an abstract possibility,’ of an effect of this kind”].)23
    23   Defendant is incorrect that the harmless error standard articulated in Chapman
    v. California (1967) 
    386 U.S. 18
     applies to the error alleged here. The single authority he
    cites for this proposition, People v. Giardino (2000) 
    82 Cal.App.4th 454
    , 470-471,
    applies the Watson prejudicial error test to the trial court’s instructional error under
    section 1138—it does not apply the Chapman standard. (Id. at p. 467 [a “ ‘violation of
    [footnote continued on next page]
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    Here, contrary to defendant’s contention, it is not reasonably probable that the jury
    would have acquitted him of first degree murder if the court had given defendant’s
    preferred response. As explained, ante, defendant’s preferred response is legally
    incorrect—first degree murder does not mean only murder without premeditation and
    deliberation, it also covers all other murders that are not of the first degree. Had the
    prosecution only charged defendant with premeditated and deliberate murder, defendant’s
    preferred response would not have been legally incorrect in the context of his trial.
    However, because the prosecution charged defendant with felony murder, which does not
    require premeditation and deliberation, defendant’s preferred response would misinstruct
    the jury on the definition of second degree murder.
    In addition to being an incomplete (and thus incorrect) statement of the law if
    given on its own, defendant’s preferred response was for all practical purposes included
    within the response the trial court gave to the jury. By referring to the definition of
    premeditated and deliberate murder as first degree murder and then explaining that all
    murder other than first degree murder is second degree murder, the trial court conveyed
    to the jury the point defendant wanted made (i.e., that murder without premeditation and
    deliberation is second degree murder) along with the additional implicit (and correct)
    explanation that felony murder is not second degree murder. In other words, even
    assuming the court’s response was error, it nevertheless conveyed to the jury the same
    section 1138 does not warrant reversal unless prejudice is shown.’ ”], citing People v.
    Beardslee (1991) 
    53 Cal.3d 68
    , 97.)
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    information (albeit in a more complete manner) that defendant’s preferred response
    would have conveyed.
    In the alternative, defendant argues that the effect of the error on the jury’s verdict
    is unknowable, and, where the effect is unknown, a court cannot conclude that the error
    was not prejudicial. There is no authority for such a generalized rule and the cases
    defendant cites are inapplicable to the facts here. Namely, in both cases the error was the
    trial courts’ denial of the juries’ request for the rereading of testimony, which the
    reviewing courts found to have infringed on “ ‘[the jury’s] fundamental right to be
    apprised of the evidence upon which they [were] sworn conscientiously to act.’ ”
    (People v. Litteral (1978) 
    79 Cal.App.3d 790
    , 796; see id. at pp. 793-797 [concluding that
    the trial court’s refusal to read the requested testimony was prejudicial error in light of
    the fact that there was evidence that “at least two jurors had reasonable doubts about the
    guilt of one or both of the defendants”]; People v. Henderson (1935) 
    4 Cal.2d 188
    , 193-
    194 [where the jury asked for a reread of the testimony relating to a particular issue and
    the court read some testimony but left out certain testimony that was beneficial to the
    defense, the error was prejudicial because the jury might have reached “an opposite
    conclusion had they had the benefit of having reread to them that which they
    requested”].) These cases do not affect our conclusion, which is that defendant was not
    prejudiced by the trial court’s response on the legal question of the difference between
    first and second degree murder.
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    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is affirmed.
    CERTIFIED FOR PARTIAL PUBLICATION
    RAMIREZ
    P. J.
    We concur:
    McKINSTER
    J.
    CODRINGTON
    J.
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