Boermeester v. Carry ( 2020 )


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  • Filed 5/28/20
    CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION
    THE COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
    SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT
    DIVISION EIGHT
    MATTHEW BOERMEESTER,                    B290675
    Plaintiff and Appellant,        (Los Angeles County
    Super. Ct. No. BS170473)
    v.
    AINSLEY CARRY et al.,
    Defendants and Respondents.
    APPEAL from a judgment of the Superior Court of Los
    Angeles County. Amy D. Hogue, Judge. Reversed and remanded
    with directions.
    Hathaway Parker, Mark M. Hathaway and Jenna E. Parker
    for Plaintiff and Appellant.
    Young & Zinn, Julie Arias and Karen J. Pazzani for
    Defendants and Respondents.
    _____________________________
    Matthew Boermeester was expelled from the University of
    Southern California (USC) for committing intimate partner violence
    against Jane Roe.1 The superior court denied his petition for writ of
    administrative mandate to set aside the expulsion. He appeals,
    contending, among other things, that the process leading to his
    expulsion violated his right to a fair hearing. We conclude USC’s
    disciplinary procedures at the time were unfair because they denied
    Boermeester a meaningful opportunity to cross-examine critical
    witnesses at an in-person hearing. We thus reverse and remand
    with directions to the superior court to grant the petition for writ of
    administrative mandate.
    FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND2
    Boermeester was a member of the USC football team, who
    kicked the game-winning field goal for USC at the 2017 Rose Bowl.
    Roe was also a student-athlete who played tennis for USC.
    Boermeester and Roe dated from March 2016 to approximately
    October 2016. On January 21, 2017, two USC students observed
    Boermeester put his hand on Roe’s neck and push her against a
    wall. They reported this incident to the USC men’s tennis coach,
    which resulted in the initiation of an investigation. Boermeester did
    not deny he put his hand on Roe’s neck and that she had her back
    1      Although Jane Roe has identified herself to the public in the
    events at issue, we will continue to use a pseudonym or initials to
    refer to Roe and other witnesses in this opinion. (Cal. Rules of
    Court, rule 8.90.)
    2     Our recitation of facts is derived solely from the evidence in
    the administrative record, and not the declarations submitted by
    Boermeester that were not made part of the record.
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    against a wall while he did so. He contends, however, he did not
    intend to harm her and they were merely “horsing around.”
    Initial Interview with Jane Roe
    Roe agreed to meet with USC’s Title IX office3 on January 23,
    two days after the incident. Roe’s advisor was present.
    Roe reported she spent the day with Boermeester on Friday,
    January 20, 2017. He called to ask her to pick him up from a party
    at approximately 12:30 or 1:00 a.m. on January 21, 2017. She did,
    and they returned to her home after getting food. Boermeester was
    the drunkest she had ever seen. He yelled in the alley behind her
    house, trying to be funny.
    Roe had her dog, Ziggy, with her. Boermeester wanted her to
    drop Ziggy’s leash to allow him to run in the alley. He grabbed the
    back of Roe’s hair hard and said “drop the fucking leash.” Roe
    refused. Boermeester responded by increasing his hold on Roe’s
    hair, causing her to drop the leash because it “hurt.”
    Boermeester then grabbed Roe “tight” by the neck, causing her
    to cough. He laughed and let go. He grabbed her by the neck twice
    more and pushed her hard against a concrete wall that ran along the
    alley behind her duplex. Roe’s head hurt after she hit the wall.
    Three USC students, DH, TS, and MB2, exited their
    apartments. Roe believed they were woken up by the loud yelling.
    When they asked after Roe, Boermeester told them that he and Roe
    3       The University’s Policy and Procedures on Student Sexual,
    Interpersonal, and Protected Class Misconduct (sexual misconduct
    policy) prohibits conduct such as intimate partner violence. It is
    intended to comply with statutes prohibiting discrimination in
    education, including Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972
    (20 U.S.C. § 1681 et seq.) (Title IX). As a result, the office which
    implements the sexual misconduct policy is known as the Title IX
    office.
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    were just “playing around.” DH and TS, who lived on the other side
    of Roe in the duplex, took her into their apartment. Boermeester
    was asleep when she got back to her room.
    The next day, Roe told Boermeester that he scared DH and TS
    because “it looked really bad when you pushed me and it looked
    really bad with your hand around my neck.” He replied, “it was a
    joke, we were messing around, tell them to calm down” and added,
    “tell them you’re into that,” implying that it was foreplay. When
    Roe asked him, “what if you hurt me bad? Would you feel bad?
    If you were playing around and it hurt?” Boermeester told her,
    “no” because it would have been “brought on by” her.
    The Title IX coordinator explained Roe had the option to
    request an avoidance of contact order (AOC) prohibiting
    Boermeester from contacting her. Roe indicated she wanted the
    AOC as well as temporary emergency housing because Boermeester
    had a key to her house. The investigator noted Roe was crying
    throughout the meeting.
    Roe acknowledged she was in a “bad situation” but was
    conflicted about what to do because she still cared for Boermeester.
    Roe indicated she did not want to participate in an investigation and
    did not want Boermeester to be charged with anything other than
    the January 21, 2017 incident. She was informed the Title IX office
    was obligated to investigate and could proceed without her consent.
    Boermeester was charged with the January 21, 2017 incident of
    intimate partner violence4 for which there were eyewitnesses.
    4     USC’s sexual misconduct policy defines intimate partner
    violence as violence committed against a person with whom the
    accused student has a previous or current dating, romantic,
    intimate, or sexual relationship. “Violence means causing physical
    harm to the person or to their possessions. Intimate partner
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    Boermeester is Notified of the Investigation
    On January 26, 2017, USC notified Boermeester of an
    investigation into the events of January 21 and that he may have
    violated USC’s sexual misconduct policy by committing intimate
    partner violence. He was placed on interim suspension and received
    an AOC letter.
    That day, Roe exchanged a series of text messages with the
    investigator stating, I am “pretty freaked out about today. I know
    I’ve said this a lot but I really can’t emphasis [sic] enough that you
    guys please please make it clear that I did not bring this forward
    that I want nothing to do with it and I’m not pressing any charges.”
    She further stated, “He can’t know I made a statement. Can you not
    tell him I made a statement[?] Like he can’t know I met with you
    guys.” The investigator assured her Boermeester would be advised
    the investigation was initiated by the Title IX office and he would
    not be made aware of her statement until the time of the evidence
    review.
    Jane Roe Recants
    Roe and her advisor met with the investigator on January 30,
    2017. Roe indicated she had reservations about the investigation
    because she felt as though her voice was not heard and that it was
    more about “burning him” than her wellbeing. Roe explained she
    thought she was in a supportive environment when she initially met
    with the Title IX office and so she freely shared her story. Although
    she understood the Title IX office was “trying to do the right thing,”
    violence may also include non-physical conduct that would cause a
    reasonable person to be fearful for their safety; examples include
    economic abuse and behavior that intimidates, frightens, or isolates.
    It may also include sexual assault, sexual misconduct, or stalking.
    Intimate partner violence can be a single act or a pattern of
    conduct.”
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    it has made things for her more “difficult.” Roe felt bullied by the
    process and no longer “fully believe[d]” many of the statements she
    initially made to the Title IX office.
    Roe also requested the AOC be lifted because she had changed
    her mind. She requested the AOC during her first meeting because
    she did not “trust” that it would be clearly conveyed to Boermeester
    that the investigation was initiated by the Title IX office, not her.
    She did not want Boermeester to be “mad” at her. She remarked
    “at the end of the day, he is like my best friend so it is like you are
    taking that away too.” She explained, “you think this is to protect
    me. Feels like I lost control on everything and I feel like you are
    controlling who I can talk to.” Roe stated that she did not feel she
    was in danger. She was upset they could not speak. She believed
    that the investigation was too harsh and that instead, Boermeester
    should be mandated to go to counseling and be placed on probation.
    The next day, Roe texted the investigator, “Will I know
    tomorrow if I can get rid of my statement because I really don’t want
    it used and I don’t even think it is fair because I still disagree with
    somethings I said so to use it wouldn’t be accurate and I just have
    been stressing about if it’s being used or not so will [the coordinator]
    have an answer for me tomorrow?”
    Meanwhile, media attention surrounding the suspension had
    begun. Roe’s roommate reported Roe was worried about the impact
    the publicity would have on Boermeester’s future career and NFL
    prospects. On February 8, Roe tweeted in response to media reports
    about Boermeester: “I am the one involved in the investigation with
    Matt Boermeester. The report is false. @Deadspin @latimes
    @ReignofTroy.”
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    Boermeester’s Statement
    On January 30, 2017, Boermeester was interviewed by the
    investigator with a USC administrative assistant present.
    Boermeester’s mother attended as his advisor. Boermeester
    generally confirmed the events of January 21 as Roe had described
    them; however, he denied intending to hurt her.
    He reported he and Roe ate at the Cheesecake Factory at
    approximately 4:00 p.m. Later that night, he text messaged Roe to
    pick him up from a party because he was unable to drive. He had
    three glasses of wine at the restaurant and four to five beers at the
    party. When they arrived at Roe’s home after picking up food, they
    began playfully throwing french fries at one another.
    Boermeester wanted to watch Roe’s dog run around so he
    asked her to let the dog go. They were standing by a wall when he
    instructed her to release the dog. He acknowledged he put his hand
    around her neck while she stood against the wall, but denied they
    were arguing or that he was angry. He also denied choking her or
    slamming her head against the wall. He believed Roe felt safe with
    him. He asserted he did not have a tight grip on her.
    Boermeester reported he and Roe spent the next three nights
    together and were sexually intimate. They saw each other every day
    until she left for a tennis match on January 26, 2017. Boermeester
    recalled he and Roe laughed about TS and DH assuming it was “real
    violence.”
    Boermeester believed the eyewitnesses misinterpreted what
    they saw. Although he understood how it looked to them, he
    thought it was ridiculous they wanted her to spend the night over at
    their home rather than sleep with him.
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    He explained he and Roe sometimes put their hands on each
    other’s necks during sex. When asked what impact this has had on
    him, he stated, “I know to never do anything that resembles
    domestic violence in public again. To be aware of my surroundings.”
    The investigator asked, “just in public?” He responded, “Well no,
    just to never give the impression of domestic violence.” Boermeester
    stated, “I feel like a monster even though I didn’t do anything. I
    can’t go to class, rehab, etc. I’m kinda sleeping, it’s on my mind all of
    the time.”5
    On February 14, 2017, the Title IX office notified Boermeester
    he would also be investigated for violating the AOC. He provided a
    written response by email denying contact with Roe in any format.
    He asserted he had moved home to San Diego and had remained
    there aside from meeting with his lawyer.
    Additional Witness Statements
    USC’s Title IX investigator interviewed over a dozen people,
    including Roe, Boermeester, the eyewitnesses, Roe’s roommates and
    friends, and Boermeester’s ex-girlfriend. The investigator made it a
    general practice to re-read the statement to the person after the
    interview to confirm accuracy.
    MB2 is Roe’s neighbor. He initially reported he did not see
    any physical contact between Roe and Boermeester. He explained
    he heard an argument between a man and a woman about a dog.
    When he walked outside to take out his trash and see what was
    happening, “it kinda settled a little bit.” Roe approached him a few
    days later to ensure he did not get the wrong impression.
    5      Boermeester had knee surgery in early January 2017 and was
    scheduled to receive rehabilitation and physical therapy from USC
    staff. The Title IX office noted his treatment at USC facilities was
    not prohibited by the interim suspension.
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    One month later, MB2 called the investigator to admit he had
    not been truthful in his initial statement because he was trying to
    “protect” Roe’s wishes to “keep it on the down low” and “downplay”
    the incident. He explained Boermeester’s attorney attempted to
    speak with him at his home in March 2017. He told the attorney
    what he initially told the Title IX investigator. However, he decided,
    “the lawyer coming to speak to me, finding my apartment, I don’t
    want to keep this any longer, perpetuating this lie.”
    During a second interview, MB2 reported he heard laughing
    and screaming sounds coming from the alley by his home, which
    initially seemed playful. The noise then changed to what sounded
    like a male trying to “assert his dominance” over a female. MB2
    looked into the alley and saw Boermeester standing in front of Roe
    with both hands around her neck. He then pushed her into the alley
    wall and she began to make “gagging” noises. MB2 added, “once he
    put his arms around her the first time she wasn’t saying anything.”
    MB2 believed, “this guy is violent. He domestically was abusing
    her.” He stated, “truth is I really wanted to beat the shit out of this
    guy.” Because of what he saw, MB2 grabbed a trash bag and went
    outside. He asked them how things were going, which “broke it up.”
    Afterwards, Boermeester and Roe walked back to her apartment.
    DH is a member of the USC men’s tennis team and Roe’s
    neighbor. He was reluctant to participate in the investigation but
    described what he saw on the night of January 21, 2017.
    He reported he heard screaming. He heard a male voice yelling
    loudly and a female voice talking but could not make out what they
    were saying. He looked outside and saw Roe and Boermeester
    standing by the wall. He noticed Roe’s dog running in the alley,
    which made him realize something was wrong because Roe did not
    allow her dog to run freely. He saw Roe pinned against the wall by
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    Boermeester, who had his hand around her chest/neck. DH did not
    see or hear Roe hit the wall.
    TS is also a member of the USC men’s tennis team and is DH’s
    roommate. He reported DH woke him up, urgently stating, “we
    gotta go downstairs, [Boermeester] is hitting [Roe].” When they got
    downstairs, DH asked to speak to Roe. Boermeester walked back to
    Roe’s house. DH tried to convince her to spend the night at their
    apartment. DH observed Roe was “playing casual at first” and tried
    to “downplay it.” When DH confronted her about Boermeester’s arm
    around her throat, she rationalized it by saying, “he’s just drunk.”
    About 15 to 20 minutes later, Roe returned home, crying. She then
    texted that Boermeester was asleep and stated, “I am safe. Thanks
    for looking out for me.” TS and DH reported the incident the next
    day to the men’s tennis coach.
    Roe’s roommates and friends uniformly reported that Roe and
    Boermeester’s relationship was volatile, but they did not personally
    witness any physical violence between them. Most of them did not
    believe Roe was in any physical danger. Instead, they often heard
    Roe and Boermeester demean one another by calling each other
    names. As the investigation progressed, Roe indicated to her friends
    she did not want them to participate in the investigation.
    Roe stated in a text message to TS, “Look what I want to say
    is I’m helping Matt. I know you won’t agree with it but he’s already
    gotten a shit ton of punishment for something I didn’t want to
    happen in the first place. I wanted non[e] of this to take place at all.
    He’s already suspended for probably two months and will be kicked
    off the team and has a restraining order from me. I literally wanted
    non[e] of it so what I’m asking as a friend is don’t say much. Please
    don’t fuck him over more. I’m not in danger at all I trust him I trust
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    that he won’t ever hurt me again. I just hate that any of this is
    going on. So I’m begging you.”
    Roe confided in a few friends that Boermeester had given her
    bruises. A text message from Roe to GO also indicated Roe may
    have been in contact with Boermeester while the AOC was in place.
    Boermeester’s ex-girlfriend, AB, dated him for almost three
    years. She reported she and Boermeester would wrestle and joke
    around. It sometimes started as tickling but would end in him
    placing her in a “chokehold.” She would tell him to stop and he did.
    She estimated he had his hands around her neck five to ten times.
    When Boermeester placed his hands around her neck, “it crossed the
    line from being joking and then it would be too much.” On two
    occasions, he shoved her during an argument.
    AB’s mother thought their rough housing was “always [going]
    too far.” She “freaked out” when she saw Boermeester with his
    hands around AB’s neck and screamed, “get your arms off [my]
    daughter right now!” Boermeester apologized, but AB did not think
    he realized he was “definitely too rough.” Nevertheless, AB did not
    believe her parents were concerned about her safety when she was
    dating Boermeester.
    Surveillance Video
    The investigator retrieved surveillance video of the incident
    from a camera located in the alley approximately two buildings
    away from Roe’s duplex. The recording does not contain audio and
    is grainy. It is undisputed the video depicts Boermeester and Roe
    interacting in the alley after midnight on January 21, 2017. The
    video supports the trial court’s description of the events as follows:
    “At 12:16:16 a.m., the video shows Petitioner shoving Roe from
    the area adjacent to the house into the alleyway. At 12:16:50,
    Petitioner appears to be holding Roe’s neck or upper body area.
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    At 12:17:12, Petitioner grabs Roe by the neck and pushes her toward
    the wall of the alley. At 12:17:13 and 112:17:14, Roe’s head and
    body arch backwards. Between 12:17:16 and 12:17:26, Petitioner
    and Roe are against the wall and barely visible from the camera.
    At 12:17:26, Petitioner backs away from the wall and re-enters the
    camera’s view. At 12:17:28, Roe re-enters the camera’s view. Roe
    and Petitioner proceed to push each other. At 12:17:38, Petitioner
    moves toward Roe and appears to be pushing her against the wall.
    At 12:17:40, a dog can be seen running across the alley. At 12:17:57,
    a third party enters the camera’s view and walks in the direction of
    Petitioner and Roe. At that moment, Petitioner and Roe walk away
    from the wall and back towards the house. At 12:18:19, the third
    party walks over to the dumpster, places a trash bag inside, and
    walks back toward the house.”
    USC’s Findings and Disciplinary Action
    Based on the evidence obtained, the investigator found
    Boermeester violated USC’s misconduct policy by engaging in
    intimate partner violence and violating the AOC. The investigator
    submitted her findings to the Misconduct Sanctioning Panel, which
    is comprised of two staff or faculty members and an undergraduate
    student. The panel decided upon a sanction of expulsion.
    Boermeester appealed the findings of fact and determination
    of violation to the Vice President for Student Affairs. An appellate
    panel found the evidence supported the findings, but recommended
    a two-year suspension because Boermeester’s conduct could have
    been “reckless” rather than intentional. The Vice President for
    Student Affairs rejected the appellate panel’s recommendation and
    affirmed the decision to expel Boermeester, reasoning the sanction
    was appropriate under the sexual misconduct policy regardless of
    whether Boermeester intended to harm Roe or not.
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    Proceedings in the Superior Court
    Boermeester filed a petition for writ of mandate in the
    Superior Court under Code of Civil Procedure section 1094.5.
    The court denied the petition for writ of mandate. Boermeester
    appealed.
    DISCUSSION
    Boermeester contends he was denied notice of the allegations
    against him and that interim measures were improperly imposed.
    We find these contentions meritless.6 Boermeester also contends he
    was entitled to a live evidentiary hearing where he can cross-
    examine witnesses. We find Boermeester’s fair hearing argument
    supported by caselaw and thus reverse and remand.
    Because we conclude Boermeester was deprived of a fair
    hearing for lack of a meaningful opportunity to cross-examine
    critical witnesses at an in-person hearing, we decline to address
    whether USC’s policy was also unfair because the Title IX
    investigator held the dual roles of investigator and adjudicator.
    We also need not address Boermeester’s other claims of error,
    including whether substantial evidence supported USC’s findings.
    6     To the extent Boermeester argues USC’s Title IX office was
    biased against him, an argument that appears throughout his
    appellate briefs, he has presented no legal or factual basis to support
    this argument other than to say its decisions were not in his favor.
    Boermeester has failed to meet his burden to demonstrate
    prejudicial error in this regard. (In re Marriage of McLaughlin
    (2000) 
    82 Cal. App. 4th 327
    , 337.) Boermeester also complains Roe
    was not provided proper notice she was a suspected victim and
    intended reporting party in the proceedings. Boermeester lacks
    standing to assert Roe’s rights in this matter. (Angelucci v. Century
    Supper Club (2007) 
    41 Cal. 4th 160
    , 175; see Code Civ. Proc., § 367.)
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    I.     Standards of Review
    In an appeal from a judgment on a petition for writ of
    mandate, the scope of our review is the same as that of the Superior
    Court, that is, we review the agency’s decision rather than the
    Superior Court’s decision. (Doe v. University of Southern California
    (2016) 
    246 Cal. App. 4th 221
    , 239 (USC I).) We determine “whether
    the respondent has proceeded without, or in excess of, jurisdiction;
    whether there was a fair trial; and whether there was any
    prejudicial abuse of discretion.” (Code Civ. Proc., § 1094.5, subd.
    (b).) “Abuse of discretion is established if the respondent has not
    proceeded in the manner required by law, the order or decision is
    not supported by the findings, or the findings are not supported by
    the evidence.” (Ibid.)
    “The statute’s requirement of a ‘ “fair trial” ’ means that there
    must have been ‘a fair administrative hearing.’ ” (Gonzalez v. Santa
    Clara County Department of Social Services (2014) 
    223 Cal. App. 4th 72
    , 96.) “A challenge to the procedural fairness of the
    administrative hearing is reviewed de novo on appeal because the
    ultimate determination of procedural fairness amounts to a question
    of law.” (Nasha v. City of Los Angeles (2004) 
    125 Cal. App. 4th 470
    ,
    482.) However, we review for substantial evidence USC’s
    substantive decisions and factual findings. (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246
    Cal.App.4th at p. 239; Code Civ. Proc., § 1094.5, subd. (c).)
    II.    Boermeester Received Sufficient Notice
    Boermeester complains he was not provided full notice that
    the Title IX investigation would “extend to his entire relationship
    history with [Roe], nor his relationship history with a previous
    girlfriend who did not attend USC.” Thus, he claims he was
    unaware the investigator was “collecting evidence to support her
    opinion about an alleged ‘pattern’ of intimate partner violence, nor
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    that he needed to produce evidence to combat [the investigator’s]
    preconceived notions about domestic violence.” We disagree.
    “Generally, a fair procedure requires ‘notice reasonably
    calculated to apprise interested parties of the pendency of the
    action . . . and an opportunity to present their objections.’
    [Citations.] With respect to student discipline, ‘[t]he student’s
    interest is to avoid unfair or mistaken exclusion from the
    educational process, with all of its unfortunate
    consequences . . . Disciplinarians, although proceeding in utmost
    good faith, frequently act on the reports and advice of others; and
    the controlling facts and the nature of the conduct under challenge
    are often disputed. The risk of error is not at all trivial, and it
    should be guarded against if that may be done without prohibitive
    cost or interference with the educational process.’ [Citation.] [¶]
    ‘At the very minimum, therefore, students facing
    suspension . . . must be given some kind of notice and afforded some
    kind of hearing.’ [Citation.] The hearing need not be formal, but ‘in
    being given an opportunity to explain his version of the facts at this
    discussion, the student [must] first be told what he is accused of
    doing and what the basis of the accusation is.’ [Citation.]” (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246 Cal.App.4th at p. 240, quoting Goss v. Lopez (1975) 
    419 U.S. 565
    , 579–580 (Goss).)
    Here, USC’s misconduct policy provides that an accused
    student be given “[w]ritten notice of the alleged policy violation
    including the specific acts, the date/period of time, and [the] location
    [where the act allegedly occurred].” Boermeester acknowledges USC
    complied with this policy. Indeed, USC informed him on January
    26, 2017, that it was investigating a report he committed intimate
    partner violence, “specifically, grabbing Jane Roe by the neck, and
    pushing her head into a cinder block wall multiple times on/or about
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    January 21, 2017.” He was later notified of a second policy violation,
    “specifically, contacting and communicating with [Roe] via text,
    phone call, social media, and in-person since the issuance of the
    Avoidance of Contact Order issued by Dr. Lynette Merriman and
    served on you January 26, 2017.”
    Boermeester reviewed the evidence compiled by the
    investigator and responded to both allegations by written statement.
    In his response, he complained about the interview with his ex-
    girlfriend and contended her statement was “completely irrelevant
    to the evidence relating to what happened on January 21, 2017.”
    Boermeester also viewed text messages from Roe to GO in which she
    indicated she had been in contact with him after issuance of the
    AOC. After reviewing the evidence related to the AOC violation,
    Boermeester responded by denying he had contact with Roe.
    Boermeester’s written statements belie his contention that he
    did not get notice of the extent of the investigation into his actions.
    Boermeester was not only provided notice of the factual basis of the
    allegations against him, he was also provided with a meaningful
    opportunity to respond to them. We find that is sufficient notice of
    the violations with which he was charged. (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246
    Cal.App.4th at pp. 240–241.)
    III. The Interim Suspension Was Not Unfair
    Boermeester next argues his interim suspension was “patently
    unfair” because it was imposed without a hearing and he was not
    provided with the evidence supporting it. In his reply brief,
    Boermeester asserts the evidence was insufficient to support the
    interim suspension. We are not persuaded.
    
    Goss, supra
    , 
    419 U.S. 565
    , cited by Boermeester, supports our
    conclusion. Goss recognized the need for interim measures, allowing
    for the immediate removal of a student without notice or hearing if
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    the student “poses a continuing danger to persons or property or an
    ongoing threat of disrupting the academic process . . .” (Id. at p.
    582.) It held an accused student must be given “some kind of notice
    and afforded some kind of hearing” when faced with disciplinary
    proceedings. Goss did not hold a student was entitled to two
    different notices and two different hearings if interim measures
    were also imposed. (Id. at pp. 579–580.)
    USC’s policy comports with Goss. It states that interim
    protective measures, including interim suspension, may be imposed
    when there is information the accused student poses a substantial
    threat to the safety or well-being of anyone in the university
    community. In deciding whether to impose interim protective
    measures, the policy sets forth specific factors for consideration,
    including whether the reported behavior involved the use of a
    weapon or force, the risk of additional violence or significant
    disruption of university life or function, whether there have been
    other reports of prohibited conduct by the respondent, and the
    university’s obligation to provide a safe and non-discriminatory
    environment. It further states, “[a] student or organization subject
    to interim protective measures is [to be] given prompt written notice
    of the charges and the interim measure. An opportunity for review
    of the measure is provided within 15 days of the notice by the Vice
    President for Student Affairs or designee.”
    Consistent with its policy, USC provided Boermeester with
    notice of the charges against him and a review of the interim
    suspension. Boermeester was notified of the charges against him,
    the interim suspension, and the AOC, by letter dated January 26.
    The letter advised him to schedule a meeting with the Title IX
    investigator, at which time he would be able to “review the basis for
    the investigation,” review his procedural rights, ask questions,
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    provide a statement, and submit relevant information or the identity
    of potential witnesses. Thereafter, on January 30, Boermeester met
    with the investigator. The record shows USC reviewed the basis for
    the investigation with him at the meeting. On the same day,
    Boermeester requested the interim suspension be discontinued or
    modified because two witnesses “misinterpreted” the incident and
    because it placed an undue burden on him. The request was denied
    by USC’s Vice President of Student Affairs on January 31. In sum,
    Boermeester was informed of the evidentiary basis for the interim
    suspension and was provided with a hearing. His contentions to the
    contrary are thus meritless.
    It appears Boermeester is actually asserting USC should have
    provided him with a preliminary hearing prior to the full
    evidentiary hearing. However, Boermeester presents no authority
    for this proposition. Nor does he present any authority for the
    proposition USC was required to share its ongoing investigation
    with him.
    In his reply brief, Boermeester asserts there was insufficient
    evidence he posed a threat to Roe or any other student to support
    the interim suspension. As an initial matter, we may disregard
    arguments raised for the first time in a reply brief. (WorldMark,
    The Cloud v. Wyndham Resort Development Corp. (2010) 
    187 Cal. App. 4th 1017
    , 1030, fn. 7.) In any case, sufficient evidence
    supported the interim suspension. Roe stated Boermeester pulled
    her hair, pushed her against a wall, and put his hand on her neck.
    DH’s statements supported Roe’s version of the events. Further,
    Boermeester admitted he had his hand on her neck and she was
    against a wall. While there was also evidence Boermeester did not
    pose a threat to Roe, we decline to reweigh the evidence.
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    IV.    Fair Procedure Requires Boermeester Be Given the
    Opportunity to Cross-Examine Critical Witnesses at An
    In-Person Hearing
    We find meritorious Boermeester’s contention that he should
    have had the right to cross-examine the witnesses against him at an
    in-person hearing. In reaching this conclusion, we reject a number
    of forfeiture-related arguments advanced by USC and the dissent.
    We also find the errors identified are not harmless. We thus reverse
    and remand.
    A. Relevant Legal Authorities
    California has long recognized a common law right to
    “fair procedure” when certain private organizations have rendered a
    decision harmful to an individual. (Doe v. Allee (2019) 
    30 Cal. App. 5th 1036
    , 1061 (Allee); Doe v. University of Southern
    California (2018) 
    29 Cal. App. 5th 1212
    , 1232, n. 25; Doe v. Regents of
    University of California (2018) 
    28 Cal. App. 5th 44
    , 56 (UC Santa
    Barbara); Pomona College v. Superior Court (1996) 
    45 Cal. App. 4th 1716
    , 1729–1730.) Courts have applied the right to fair procedure to
    disciplinary proceedings involving sexual misconduct by students at
    private universities.7 These opinions uniformly hold the disciplinary
    7      Unlike private universities, the requirements for disciplinary
    hearings at public universities are grounded in constitutional due
    process principles. 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1061.) Some
    courts have observed that the common law requirements for a fair
    disciplinary hearing at a private university “mirror” the due process
    protections that must be afforded a student at a public university.
    (Ibid.) Other courts merely find due process jurisprudence
    “instructive” in cases involving private universities. (Claremont
    
    McKenna, supra
    , 25 Cal.App.5th at p. 1067, fn. 8.) In either case,
    we may rely on cases involving public university disciplinary
    proceedings.
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    proceedings need not include all of the safeguards and formalities of
    a criminal trial and the formal rules of evidence do not apply.
    
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1062; UC Santa 
    Barbara, supra
    ,
    28 Cal.App.5th at p. 56.) Instead, fair hearing requirements are
    “ ‘flexible,’ ” and do not mandate any “ ‘rigid procedure.’ ” 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1062.)
    Courts also agree fundamental fairness requires the accused
    be given “ ‘ “a full opportunity to present his defenses.” ’ ” 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1062, quoting Doe v. Regents of
    University of California (2016) 
    5 Cal. App. 5th 1104
    (UC San Diego).)
    A university must balance its desire to protect victims of sexual
    misconduct with an accused’s need to adequately defend himself or
    herself. Added to these competing interests is the university’s desire
    to avoid diverting its resources and attention from its main calling,
    which is education. (Doe v. Claremont McKenna College (2018) 
    25 Cal. App. 5th 1055
    , 1066 (Claremont McKenna).) “ “Although a
    university must treat students fairly, it is not required to convert its
    classrooms into courtrooms.’ ” (UC San 
    Diego, supra
    , 5 Cal.App.5th
    at p. 1078.)
    In examining what kind of hearing comports with fair
    procedure, California courts have concluded a university must
    provide the following to the parties involved in a sexual misconduct
    disciplinary proceeding: notice of the charges and the university’s
    policies and procedures (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246 Cal.App.4th at p. 241);
    compliance with those policies and procedures (UC San 
    Diego, supra
    , 5 Cal.App.5th at p. 1078); access to the evidence (UC Santa
    
    Barbara, supra
    , 28 Cal.App.5th at pp. 57–59); an in-person hearing
    that includes testimony from critical witnesses and written reports
    of witness interviews (Doe v. Westmont College (2019) 
    34 Cal. App. 5th 622
    , 637 (Westmont College); and direct or indirect
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    cross-examination of critical witnesses in cases where credibility of
    the witnesses is central to a determination of misconduct (Doe v.
    Occidental College (2019) 
    40 Cal. App. 5th 208
    , 224 (Occidental
    College); 
    Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1039).
    B. USC’s Sexual Misconduct Policy in 2017
    USC’s student handbook includes its policies and procedures
    governing investigations into student sexual misconduct.8 Stalking
    and intimate partner violence were identified as some of the
    prohibited conduct. USC’s policy dictated an investigation was to be
    a “neutral, fact-finding process. Reports [were] presumed to be
    made in good faith. Further, Respondents [were] presumed not
    responsible.” The presumption of non-responsibility was overcome
    when a preponderance of evidence established the respondent
    committed the prohibited conduct.
    The handbook required the Title IX office to contact the
    reporting party and the respondent at the initiation of an
    investigation to explain their rights and to schedule a meeting.9
    An investigator was assigned to the matter and interviewed
    witnesses and assembled other evidence.
    The rules of evidence and discovery generally did not apply.
    Sexual history was relevant “[w]hen there [was] evidence of
    substantially similar conduct by a Respondent, regardless of a
    finding of responsibility.” The sexual history evidence could be used
    8     USC’s sexual misconduct policy has been amended since 2017.
    However, we review the policy as it existed at the time of the
    disciplinary proceedings against Boermeester.
    9     Regardless of who reported the student misconduct, USC
    designated the individual who experienced the prohibited conduct as
    the “reporting party.” The “respondent” was the individual accused
    of committing the misconduct.
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    “in determining the Respondent’s knowledge, intent, motive,
    absence of mistake, or modus operandi[.]”
    After the investigation, the parties could review the evidence
    in a process known as “Evidence Review.” Once the parties
    completed Evidence Review, the Title IX coordinator and assigned
    investigator conducted separate hearings, known as “Evidence
    Hearings,” where each party could present a statement or evidence
    at the Title IX offices. Each party was permitted to submit
    questions to be asked by the Title IX coordinator at the other party’s
    Evidence Hearing. The Title IX coordinator had discretion to
    exclude inflammatory, argumentative, or irrelevant questions. Any
    “new information” shared by a party during the Evidence Hearing
    was relayed to the other party for a response.
    After the Evidence Hearing, the Title IX office prepared a
    Summary Administrative Review (SAR), which presented and
    analyzed the information collected. The investigator made findings
    of fact in consultation with the Title IX coordinator and using a
    preponderance of the evidence standard, determined whether a
    violation occurred.
    A “Misconduct Sanctioning Panel,” comprised of three
    members of the USC community, determined the appropriate
    discipline after review of the SAR. The parties could appeal the
    disciplinary action to USC’s Vice President for Student Affairs.
    An appellate panel, comprised of three anonymous individuals from
    the USC community, reviewed the appeal and made a
    recommendation to the Vice President for Student Affairs, who could
    accept or reject the recommendation.
    C. Forfeiture
    We address the threshold issue of whether Boermeester has
    preserved his right to assert on appeal that he was improperly
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    denied cross-examination of witnesses at a live evidentiary hearing.
    We find he has.
    USC contends Boermeester forfeited the issue when he failed
    to request cross-examination of third-party witnesses and waived it
    when he refused to submit written questions for Roe. We decline to
    fault Boermeester for failing to request cross-examination of other
    witnesses because such an objection was not supported by the law at
    the time and would have been futile in any case. (People v. Brooks
    (2017) 
    3 Cal. 5th 1
    , 92 [“ ‘Reviewing courts have traditionally excused
    parties for failing to raise an issue at trial where an objection would
    have been futile or wholly unsupported by substantive law then in
    existence.’ ”]; see also Corenbaum v. Lampkin (2013) 
    215 Cal. App. 4th 1308
    , 1334 [“An appellant may challenge the admission
    of evidence for the first time on appeal despite his or her failure to
    object in the trial court if the challenge is based on a change in the
    law that the appellant could not reasonably have been expected to
    foresee.”].)
    At the time of these disciplinary proceedings in 2017, neither
    the law nor USC’s sexual misconduct policy contemplated cross-
    examination of third-party witnesses at an in-person hearing. Allee,
    which extends cross-examination rights to third-party witnesses,
    was not published until January 4, 2019. In 2016, the existing law
    on this point was set forth in USC I, which cited with approval a
    case that held, “ ‘[a]lthough we recognize the value of cross-
    examination as a means of uncovering the truth [citation], we reject
    the notion that as a matter of law every administrative
    appeal . . . must afford the [accused] an opportunity to confront and
    cross-examine witnesses.’ ” (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246 Cal.App.4th at
    23
    p. 245.) Under these circumstances, Boermeester could not
    reasonably have been expected to foresee Allee’s holding.10
    Moreover, any objection would have been futile because the
    Title IX office had made it clear they were not going to deviate from
    USC’s sexual misconduct policy and procedures. This is
    demonstrated by USC’s denial of Boermeester’s request that Roe’s
    answers to his questions at the Evidentiary Hearing be transmitted
    to him “unfiltered,” meaning verbatim, and prior to the SAR. The
    Title IX coordinator replied, “The process does not afford that.
    Please review our policy.” It is reasonable to conclude a request to
    question other witnesses would likewise have been denied and an
    objection is futile under such circumstances. (See People v. Hopkins
    (1992) 
    10 Cal. App. 4th 1699
    , 1702 [after mistrial objection overruled
    on a legal ground, defense counsel could reasonably have believed
    further objections would be fruitless]; In re Antonio C. (2000) 
    83 Cal. App. 4th 1029
    , 1033 [“[W]here an objection would have been
    futile, the claim is not waived.”].)
    Because we conclude Boermeester did not forfeit his right to
    cross-examine third-party witnesses, we likewise conclude there was
    no waiver of his right to an in-person hearing.
    10    The dissent asserts Boermeester could have foreseen Allee
    because his attorney also represented the accused student in Allee.
    In 2019, Boermeester’s attorney persuaded the Allee court to rely on
    Doe v. University of Cincinnati (S.D. OH 2016) 
    223 F. Supp. 3d 704
    ,
    711, which held that cross-examination was essential in student
    disciplinary proceedings. As discussed above, however, California
    authority was to the contrary when Boermeester’s proceedings
    occurred. (USC 
    I, supra
    , 246 Cal.App.4th at p. 245.) Boermeester’s
    attorney in 2017 could not have foreseen that California law would
    change in 2019 as a result of an Ohio case. We decline to charge
    attorneys with such foresight.
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    We also decline to find forfeiture based on Boermeester’s
    refusal to submit questions for Roe. The record shows Boermeester
    did object to the process by which Roe would be questioned.
    Specifically, he asked for Roe’s answers to be relayed to him
    “unfiltered” or word-for-word so he could use them in his formal
    statement to USC. He explained, “The failure to record or
    transcribe any of the interviews and the admission by at least one
    witness that he lied during his initial interview [referring to MB2]
    have shaken our confidence in the accuracy of this investigation.”
    Boermeester declined to submit questions for Roe only after his
    request was rejected.
    Given these circumstances, Boermeester did not waive the
    right to raise the issue of Roe’s cross-examination on appeal.
    (See Warner Constr. Corp. v. City of Los Angeles (1970) 
    2 Cal. 3d 285
    ,
    299–300, fn. 17 [no waiver where objection was overruled and
    objecting party attempted to minimize impact of admission of
    evidence].) To the extent USC contends Boermeester’s objection was
    insufficiently specific, that is, he failed to object on the ground he
    could not question Roe at an in-person hearing, we conclude that
    objection was not supported by the law at the time and would have
    been futile for the same reasons specified above.
    We do not find persuasive the dissent’s invited error analysis.
    An error is invited when a party purposefully induces the
    commission of error. (Norgart v. Upjohn Co. (1999) 
    21 Cal. 4th 383
    ,
    403.) The doctrine of invited error bars review on appeal based on
    the principle of estoppel. (Ibid.) The doctrine is intended to prevent
    a party from misleading a trial court to make a ruling, and then
    profit from it in the appellate court. (Ibid.)
    The dissent accuses Boermeester of making a tactical decision
    when he refused to submit questions for Roe. The record shows
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    Boermeester only declined to question Roe further after his request
    to receive verbatim answers before the SAR was denied. The record
    does not demonstrate it was a tactical decision designed to induce
    USC to make an erroneous decision that Boermeester could then
    challenge on appeal. Instead, the record demonstrates a
    disagreement about the process by which Roe would be questioned.
    It is clear Boermeester merely abided by USC’s established
    rules and procedures. USC’s policy did not allow for Roe to be
    questioned at an in-person hearing that Boermeester could attend.
    Neither did it contemplate questioning third party witnesses at an
    in-person hearing. The doctrine of invited error does not apply when
    a party, while making the appropriate objections, acquiesces to an
    established procedure such as this one. (See K. G. v. County of
    Riverside (2003) 
    106 Cal. App. 4th 1374
    , 1379 [“ ‘ “ ‘An attorney who
    submits to the authority of an erroneous, adverse ruling after
    making appropriate objections or motions, does not waive the error
    in the ruling by proceeding in accordance therewith and endeavoring
    to make the best of a bad situation for which he was not
    responsible.’ ” [Citations.]’ ”].) Here, Boermeester objected to the
    format of his questions to Roe and we find that any request to
    question third party witnesses would have been futile. Boermeester
    did not invite the error by acquiescing to USC’s sexual misconduct
    procedure.
    Finally, we reject the contention Boermeester forfeited this
    issue when he failed to raise it in his administrative appeal.
    Boermeester was prohibited from arguing the proceedings were
    unfair in his administrative appeal. An appeal on this basis would
    have been futile. (In re Antonio 
    C., supra
    , 83 Cal.App.4th at
    p. 1033.)
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    D. Merits
    We now reach the merits of Boermeester’s challenge to the
    fairness of the disciplinary proceedings against him. Relying on
    
    Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at page 1039, he primarily takes issue
    with the investigator’s “overlapping and conflicting” roles in the
    proceedings and the denial of his right to cross-examine witnesses.
    (Id. at p. 1069.)
    Allee involved a student’s expulsion from USC for
    nonconsensual sex with another student. Division 4 of this court
    concluded USC’s disciplinary procedure failed to provide the accused
    student with a fair hearing. 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at 1039.)
    The Allee court held that “when a student . . . faces severe
    disciplinary sanctions, and the credibility of witnesses (whether the
    accusing student, other witnesses, or both) is central to the
    adjudication of the allegation, fundamental fairness requires, at a
    minimum, that the university provide a mechanism by which the
    accused may cross-examine those witnesses, directly or indirectly, at
    a hearing at which the witnesses appear in person or by other
    means (e.g., videoconferencing) before a neutral adjudicator with the
    power independently to find facts and make credibility
    assessments.” (Id. at p. 1069.)
    At the time of the disciplinary proceedings in Allee, USC’s
    sexual misconduct policy did not require an in-person hearing and
    the Title IX investigator served multiple roles in the proceedings.
    
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1069.) The Allee court found fault
    with the investigator’s “unfettered” discretion to conduct the
    investigation, determine credibility, make findings of fact, and
    impose discipline. (Id. at p. 1070.)
    The court reasoned, “The notion that a single individual,
    acting in these overlapping and conflicting capacities, is capable of
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    effectively implementing an accused student’s right of cross–
    examination by posing prepared questions to witnesses in the course
    of the investigation ignores the fundamental nature of cross-
    examination: adversarial questioning at an in person hearing at
    which a neutral fact finder can observe and assess the witness’
    credibility.” 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1068.) The court
    concluded, “a right of ‘cross-examination’ implemented by a single
    individual acting as investigator, prosecutor, factfinder and
    sentencer, is incompatible with adversarial questioning designed to
    uncover the truth. It is simply an extension of the investigation and
    prosecution itself.” (Ibid.)
    Since Allee, Divisions 6 and 7 of this court have reached
    similar conclusions regarding the need for some form of cross-
    examination at a live hearing. In Westmont 
    College, supra
    , 
    34 Cal. App. 5th 622
    , a student was suspended after a three-member
    panel determined the evidence supported an accusation he sexually
    assaulted another student. The trial court granted the accused
    student’s petition for a writ of administrative mandamus on the
    ground the college did not give him a fair hearing. (Id. at p. 625.)
    Division 6 affirmed, finding the college’s investigation and
    adjudication of the complainant’s accusation “was fatally flawed.”
    (Westmont 
    College, supra
    , 34 Cal.App.5th at p. 625.) The Court of
    Appeal found fault with the panel’s failure to hear testimony from
    critical witnesses, even though it relied on their prior statements to
    corroborate the complainant’s account and to impeach the accused’s
    credibility. It also found the panel improperly withheld material
    evidence from the accused that its own policies required it to turn
    over and did not give the accused the opportunity to propose
    questions to be asked of the complainant and other witnesses. (Id.
    at pp. 625–626, 636–639.) Because the record indicated two panel
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    members relied on the credibility determination of the investigator,
    who was the third panel member, the court also held each member
    of the panel must hear from the critical witnesses—in person, by
    videoconference, or some other method—before assessing credibility.
    (Id. at p. 637.)
    In Occidental 
    College, supra
    , 
    40 Cal. App. 5th 208
    , Division 7
    applied the holding in Westmont and found a student expelled for
    sexual assault had received a fair hearing. In Occidental College, an
    external adjudicator heard testimony from the parties, the
    investigator, and five witnesses during a live hearing. The
    adjudicator recommended disciplinary action after considering the
    testimony, summaries of witness interviews, and the investigative
    report. (Occidental 
    College, supra
    , at p. 219.) The court found
    “Occidental’s policy complied with all the procedural requirements
    identified by California cases dealing with sexual misconduct
    disciplinary proceedings: both sides had notice of the charges and
    hearing and had access to the evidence, the hearing included live
    testimony and written reports of witness interviews, the critical
    witnesses appeared in person at the hearing so that the adjudicator
    could evaluate their credibility, and the respondent had an
    opportunity to propose questions for the adjudicator to ask the
    complainant.” (Id. at p. 224; accord Claremont 
    McKenna, supra
    , 25
    Cal.App.5th at p. 1070 [“where the accused student faces a severe
    penalty and the school’s determination turns on the complaining
    witness’s credibility . . . the complaining witness must be before the
    finder of fact either physically or through videoconference or like
    technology to enable the finder of fact to assess the complaining
    witness’s credibility in responding to its own questions or those
    proposed by the accused student”].)
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    We agree with the above authorities: In a case such as this
    one, where a student faces a severe sanction in a disciplinary
    proceeding and the university’s decision depends on witness
    credibility, the accused student must be afforded an in-person
    hearing in which he may cross-examine critical witnesses to ensure
    the adjudicator has the ability to observe the witnesses’ demeanor
    and properly decide credibility. (Occidental 
    College, supra
    , 40
    Cal.App.5th at p. 224; Claremont 
    McKenna, supra
    , 25 Cal.App.5th
    at p. 1070; 
    Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at p. 1066.) In reaching this
    conclusion, we agree with the prevailing case authority that cross-
    examination of witnesses may be conducted directly by the accused
    student or his representative, or indirectly by the adjudicator or by
    someone else. (Ibid.) We further agree the cross-examiner has
    discretion to omit questions that are irrelevant, inflammatory, or
    argumentative. (UC San 
    Diego, supra
    , 5 Cal.App.5th at pp. 1086–
    1087.)
    Although we refer to an “in-person hearing,” we do not mean
    to say that the witnesses must be physically present to allow the
    accused student to confront them. Instead, the witnesses may
    appear in person, by videoconference, or by another method that
    would facilitate the assessment of credibility. (Claremont 
    McKenna, supra
    , 25 Cal.App.5th at p. 1070; Doe v. Univ. of Cincinnati (6th Cir.
    2017) 
    872 F.3d 393
    , 406 (Univ. of Cincinnati) [university’s
    procedures need only provide “a means for the [review] panel to
    evaluate an alleged victim’s credibility, not for the accused to
    physically confront his accuser.”].)
    Boermeester did not receive this type of hearing under USC’s
    2017 sexual misconduct policy. USC’s policy to hold separate
    Evidentiary Hearings and limit cross-examination does not meet the
    30
    fair procedure requirements identified in Allee, Westmont College,
    Occidental College, and Claremont McKenna.
    Under the separate Evidentiary Hearing procedure, the
    reporting party could respond to the evidence collected and answer
    any questions submitted by the respondent without the respondent’s
    presence. This procedure effectively denied Boermeester a hearing.
    An accused student is not given a meaningful opportunity to
    respond to the evidence against him if he is not allowed to attend
    the very hearing at which the evidence is presented. (Goldberg v.
    Regents of University of Cal. (1967) 
    248 Cal. App. 2d 867
    , 882 [due
    process requires students be “given ample opportunity to hear and
    observe the witnesses against them”].)
    Even if the Evidence Hearings were not separate and
    Boermeester was allowed to attend, the limited cross-examination
    afforded by USC prevented him from fully presenting his defense, as
    required by fair procedure. (UC San 
    Diego, supra
    , 5 Cal.App.5th at
    p. 1104.) Under the sexual misconduct policy, Boermeester could
    only submit questions for Roe to be asked by the Title IX coordinator
    at the Evidence Hearing. Boermeester had no opportunity to
    question any other witness or ask follow-up questions of Roe.
    These limitations prevented Boermeester from fully presenting his
    defense, which was that the eyewitnesses misunderstood what
    happened between him and Roe on January 21, 2017. Allowing
    Boermeester to submit questions for critical witnesses, such as AB,
    MB2, DH, and TS, at a live hearing would further truth finding by
    allowing him to test their recollection, their ability to observe the
    incident, and any biases they may have. It is well established
    “ ‘cross-examination has always been considered a most effective
    way to ascertain truth.’ ” (Univ. of 
    Cincinnati, supra
    , 872 F.3d at
    pp. 401–402.)
    31
    In short, an in-person hearing coupled with indirect or direct
    cross-examination would enable the adjudicator to better assess
    witness credibility in a case where credibility is central to a
    determination of sexual misconduct. (Univ. of 
    Cincinnati, supra
    ,
    872 F.3d at pp. 401–402; Elkins v. Superior Court (2007) 
    41 Cal. 4th 1337
    , 1358 [“Oral testimony of witnesses given in the presence of the
    trier of fact is valued for its probative worth on the issue of
    credibility, because such testimony affords the trier of fact an
    opportunity to observe the demeanor of witnesses.”]; Doe v. Baum
    (6th Cir. 2018) 
    903 F.3d 575
    , 586.)
    USC contends the holdings in Allee and the other university
    sexual misconduct cases should not be extended to an intimate
    partner violence case on the ground those cases only apply to sexual
    assault or similar sexual misconduct. According to USC, cross-
    examination is required in sexual misconduct cases because the
    misconduct takes “place behind closed doors, with no witnesses
    other than the parties, and the key issue in dispute [is] consent.”
    USC claims the situation is different here because the misconduct
    “took place in public, was witnessed by at least two individuals, and
    was captured on video.”
    The dissent similarly distinguishes a university sexual
    misconduct case from an intimate partner violence case. In a sexual
    misconduct case, according to the dissent, the accused seeks cross-
    examination to “shake” the accuser’s story that their sexual
    encounter was not consensual. The dissent asserts the sexual
    misconduct case is different because it does not involve a domestic
    relationship and the victim does not recant.
    We disagree. Sexual misconduct cases may also arise from
    domestic relationships and victims also recant in such cases.
    Further, from a procedural standpoint, we see little difference
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    between a sexual misconduct case such as that described by USC
    and the dissent and an intimate partner violence case such as this
    one. Both cases require the university to make credibility
    determinations based on conflicting statements. It is irrelevant to
    us whether the conflict exists because the man and the woman have
    competing narratives or the man and woman’s narrative competes
    with that of third party witnesses.
    USC was presented with two versions of the January 21
    incident. On the one hand, Roe and Boermeester claimed it was
    playful and not violent. On the other hand, the third party
    witnesses and Roe, in her initial statement, claimed it was violent
    and not playful. Given this conflict, “the credibility of witnesses
    (whether the accusing student, other witnesses, or both) is central to
    the adjudication of the allegation” in this case, just as it was in Allee
    and the other university sexual misconduct cases. 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30
    Cal.App.5th at p. 1069; see also Claremont 
    McKenna, supra
    , 25
    Cal.App.5th at p. 1070.)
    We acknowledge the dissent’s point that Roe had recanted and
    it may or may not have benefitted Boermeester to question her
    further. However, as USC indicates, it was not Roe, but the
    eyewitnesses, who were pivotal to USC’s decision. According to
    USC, they provided the necessary support for Roe’s initial account.
    Thus, even absent cross-examination of Roe, Boermeester should
    have been able to cross-examine the third-party witnesses to test
    their recollection, their ability to observe the incident, and any
    biases they may have had against him.
    USC claims credibility of witnesses was not central to the
    adjudication in this case due to the extensive corroborating evidence,
    including the video tape. USC overstates the evidence. The
    surveillance video is not conclusive. The picture is grainy and there
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    is no audio. The video camera is positioned approximately two
    buildings away from Roe and Boermeester. They are small figures
    in the frame of the video. Additionally, there is a light on the left
    side of the frame, which renders the interaction between
    Boermeester and Roe when they are near the wall barely visible. At
    best, the video corroborates Roe’s initial statement, MB2’s second
    statement, and DH’s statement of what occurred on January 21,
    2017. However, both Roe and MB2 recanted their initial statements
    to the investigator. Contrary to USC’s assertion, adjudication of this
    matter rests on a determination of the credibility of inconsistent
    witnesses, just as in Allee, Occidental College, and Westmont
    College. Accordingly, these authorities apply to this intimate
    partner violence case.
    We likewise find unpersuasive USC’s argument that sexual
    assault and other sexual misconduct violations are different from
    violations involving intimate partner violence and thus should be
    treated differently. USC’s own student handbook describes only
    four “categories” of student misconduct: (1) non-academic violations;
    (2) academic integrity violations; (3) admissions violations; and (4)
    sexual, interpersonal, and protected class misconduct cases. Under
    the “University’s Policy and Procedures on Student Sexual,
    Interpersonal, and Protected Class Misconduct,” the same
    investigative and adjudicative procedure applies to each violation,
    including “sexual assault and non-consensual sexual contact,”
    harassment, stalking, and intimate partner violence. In short, USC
    does not treat sexual misconduct and intimate partner violence
    cases differently. Neither does fair procedure.
    E. Harmless Error
    Lastly, USC asserts any error was harmless, arguing,
    “[n]o amount of additional process would change what can be plainly
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    observed on the security footage and confirmed in Boermeester’s
    own statements.” We are not convinced. As we have discussed,
    USC overstates what the surveillance video shows. At best, it
    corroborates Roe’s initial statement. Moreover, although
    Boermeester admits he put hands on Roe’s neck while she was
    positioned against the wall, he asserts it was playful. This is hardly
    a confession to intimate partner violence.
    At bottom, this case rests on witness credibility. Even if Roe
    had not recanted, USC was still faced with conflicting accounts of
    the incident: Boermeester disputed the characterization of the
    incident as violent, contending they were merely “horsing around.”
    MB2, an eyewitness to the incident, admitted he lied in his initial
    statement. Given these conflicting statements, we cannot say the
    record contains such overwhelming evidence as to render harmless
    the errors identified in this case.
    DISPOSITION
    The judgment is reversed and the matter remanded to the
    superior court with directions to grant Boermeester’s petition for
    writ of administrative mandate. Should USC choose to proceed with
    a new disciplinary hearing, it should afford Boermeester the
    opportunity to directly or indirectly cross-examine witnesses at an
    in-person hearing. Each party to bear his or its own costs on appeal.
    CERTIFIED FOR PUBLICATION
    BIGELOW, P. J.
    I Concur:
    STRATTON, J.
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    Boermeester v. Carry et al.
    B290675
    WILEY, J., Dissenting.
    Unaccountably, in California’s first appellate student
    discipline case about domestic violence, the aggressor emerges as
    the victim. But the university was right to discipline this man.
    Substantial evidence shows he committed domestic violence. All
    procedures were fair. Overturning this discipline is
    unwarranted.
    I
    Substantial evidence reveals a textbook case of domestic
    violence. I append the victim witness interview and invite
    readers to examine it. (See appendix, post, pp. 24–37.)
    A
    I summarize the victim’s interview.
    After midnight, a drunken man called the woman he lived
    with. It was in the early hours of Saturday, January 21, 2017.
    He wanted her to come get him at a party and drive him home.
    She obeyed.
    He was the drunkest she had seen him. She brought her
    dog Ziggy along in a cage in the car. The man was mean to Ziggy,
    and the dog was shaking. The man yelled at the dog, which
    cowered in the cage.
    They got home and went to the alley. He wanted her to
    drop Ziggy’s leash but she did not want to. The man wanted to
    see Ziggy running off the leash. The woman did not want Ziggy
    off the leash.
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    The man grabbed the back of the woman’s hair hard and
    said “drop the fucking leash.” She said no. The man grabbed the
    woman harder. It hurt, so she dropped the leash.
    The man grabbed the woman by the front of her neck. He
    had done this before. He did it to “freeze her” when he wanted to
    stop her. When he did this, it sometimes scared her.
    When he grabbed her by the throat this time, it was harder.
    His grip was tight. She could breathe but it hurt and she
    coughed.
    He let go and laughed.
    The man chose this moment to comment about Westworld.
    This sci-fi show is about a theme park where robots look like
    humans. Humans pay to enter and do as they please to the
    robots. The humans can be violent and abusive without
    consequences because the robots’ programming forbids harm to
    humans.
    The man told the woman about Westworld: “you can hurt
    the robots because they aren’t well.”
    The man took her by the neck and pushed her hard against
    the concrete wall. Her head hit the wall. He let go and then did
    it again.
    A neighbor came into the alley. The man told the neighbor
    they were just playing around.
    B
    The man and the woman were students at the University of
    Southern California. The man is Matthew Boermeester. The
    woman is Jane Roe.
    USC has student conduct rules. One USC rule prohibits
    intimate partner violence. The rule says intimate partner
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    violence is also known as domestic violence and includes causing
    physical harm to another person.
    USC’s rule against violence does not contain a playing
    around defense.
    Witnesses reported Boermeester’s treatment of Roe to USC,
    which promptly launched an investigation. On Monday, January
    23, 2017, accompanied by her adviser Nohelani Lawrence, Roe
    met with a USC investigator and spoke at length. Roe cried
    throughout this interview.
    C
    California law is familiar with domestic violence. USC is
    too. USC is an established institution of higher education that
    has promulgated rules about domestic violence and has hired
    professionals to investigate these cases. These trained
    professionals work daily in this specialized world. Their
    firsthand experience supplements their training. It is reasonable
    and procedurally customary to ascribe expertise about domestic
    violence to USC and to its campus specialists.
    Boermeester says we should assume USC is ignorant. But
    he gives neither reason nor legal authority for his self-serving
    and illogical suggestion.
    D
    Domestic violence is violence between people living
    together in an intimate relationship. (People v. Brown (2004) 
    33 Cal. 4th 892
    , 895, fn. 1 (Brown).) USC refers to this type of
    violence more generally as intimate partner violence.
    Domestic violence is a serious social and legal problem in
    the United States, occurring in every economic, racial, and ethnic
    group. Compared to other crimes, domestic violence is vastly
    underreported. Until recent decades, it was largely hidden from
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    public examination. A fundamental difference between domestic
    violence and other violence (like street violence) is domestic
    violence happens within ongoing relationships expected to be
    protective, supportive, and nurturing. The ties between victim
    and abuser often are strong emotional bonds, and victims
    frequently feel a sense of loyalty to their abusers. 
    (Brown, supra
    ,
    33 Cal.4th at pp. 898–899.) Often abusers use psychological,
    emotional, or verbal abuse to control their victims. (Id. at p. 907.)
    Victims who report abuse to authorities may later protect
    the abuser by recanting their own reports. This presents an
    exceptional challenge for authorities. 
    (Brown, supra
    , 33 Cal.4th
    at p. 899.)
    In the Brown case, an expert explained domestic violence
    victims, after describing the violence to police, often later
    repudiate their descriptions. There is typically “anywhere
    between 24 and 48 hours where victims will be truthful about
    what occurred because they're still angry, they're still scared.”
    But after they have had time to think about it, they commonly
    change their minds. About 80 to 85 percent of victims recant at
    some point in the process. Some victims will say they lied to
    authorities; almost all will attempt to minimize their experience.
    
    (Brown, supra
    , 33 Cal.4th at p. 897; see also
    id. at p.
    903 [quoting
    another expert who testified that, about 80 percent of the time, a
    woman who has been assaulted by a boyfriend, husband, or lover
    will recant, change, or minimize her story].)
    Recanting is common because it is logical. The victim may
    still care for the abuser and may be hoping he will not do it again.
    
    (Brown, supra
    , 33 Cal.4th at p. 897.) The abuser or the abuser’s
    family may be pressuring or threatening the victim. (Ibid.)
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    Professionals familiar with domestic violence understand
    victims logically may recant to protect themselves because
    recanting can appease the abuser.
    The Brown opinion held expert testimony about recanting
    was admissible for the purpose of disabusing jurors of common
    misconceptions about how victims behave. 
    (Brown, supra
    , 33
    Cal.4th at pp. 905–908.) Part of the court’s logic was, “when the
    victim’s trial testimony supports the defendant or minimizes the
    violence of his actions, the jurors may assume that if there really
    had been abusive behavior, the victim would not be testifying in
    the defendant’s favor.” (Id. at p. 906.) In many or even most
    cases, however, that assumption would be incorrect.
    USC presumably knows all this. There is no basis for
    presuming it is ignorant.
    E
    Substantial evidence permitted the USC investigator to
    understand Roe’s account as a classic case of domestic violence.
    Roe’s lengthy interview record, which appears at the end of this
    dissent, is substantial evidence.
    Roe’s account revealed Boermeester stayed at her
    apartment for a semester. Boermeester controlled her. He told
    her when she could speak and when she was too close to him. He
    used physical abuse when she did not obey. He poked and hit
    her, causing bruising. He told her to shut up. He kicked her
    when she got too close. He took her by the neck to “freeze her”
    when he wanted to stop her.
    Boermeester made Roe feel worthless. He told her she was
    stupid and a lousy tennis player. (Roe was a nationally ranked
    member of the USC tennis team.) He was rude to her parents
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    and her friends, thus undermining her emotional support system
    and imposing a me-or-them choice.
    Boermeester punished Roe if she misbehaved and made her
    feel as though problems were her fault, not his. He refused to
    return her apartment key, despite paying no rent and having no
    right to be there. He never apologized or took responsibility.
    When she asked if he would feel bad or sorry if he hurt her, he
    said no, because she brought it on herself.
    In this domestic relationship, Boermeester grabbed Roe by
    the neck on January 21, 2017. He pushed her hard against a
    concrete wall, she hit her head, he let go, and then he did it
    again. He did not stop until a neighbor appeared, and then
    Boermeester said they were just playing around.
    On January 23, 2017, Roe asked USC for an Avoidance Of
    Contact order against Boermeester. She requested emergency
    housing. The implication is unmistakable: she was scared of
    Boermeester and wanted to get away from him.
    F
    The domestic violence victim recanted. On Tuesday,
    January 24, 2017, Roe began recanting, and she continued in the
    following days. On February 7, 2017, Roe tweeted to the media
    that the charges against Boermeester were false. Roe became
    increasingly extensive in her recantation, through to the end of
    USC’s investigation.
    II
    USC’s investigation was thorough and fair.
    The investigator interviewed 18 witnesses and wrote a 78-
    page single-spaced report. The report included lengthy
    statements from Boermeester and from Roe that vigorously
    asserted his innocence.
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    The amount of process was considerable. Accompanied by
    his mother, who is an attorney, Boermeester gave his side of the
    story during the investigation. Boermeester retained a law firm.
    On March 10 and 22, 2017—twice—he had the opportunity to
    review all information and documents the investigator gathered.
    Boermeester and his retained attorney reviewed this evidentiary
    record. Boermeester then had the opportunity to submit
    questions for Roe, but (through his attorney) he declined to do so.
    After reviewing the evidence, Boermeester had the opportunity to
    respond to the evidence, to answer questions posed by Roe, and to
    submit new information. Neither Boermeester nor Roe
    submitted questions for each other or for anyone else. Both opted
    to skip their hearings and to submit written statements in lieu of
    meeting.
    USC’s process involved four layers of review.
    First was the investigation. Upon concluding the extensive
    investigation, the investigator determined Boermeester was
    responsible for intimate partner violence.
    The second layer was a separate panel. The sanctions
    panel reviewed the record and decided to expel Boermeester.
    The third layer was the Misconduct Appellate Panel.
    Boermeester appealed to this separate panel. Pages 494 and 495
    of the Administrative Record spell out the duties of this
    Misconduct Appellate Panel. These rules empowered the
    Misconduct Appellate Panel to decide whether substantial
    evidence supported the investigator’s fact finding. The
    Misconduct Appellate Panel also was to determine whether this
    fact finding supported the investigator’s conclusions about policy
    violations.
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    This Misconduct Appellate Panel exercised independent
    judgment. It recommended a two-year suspension rather than
    expulsion for Boermeester.
    The fourth layer was USC’s Vice President for Student
    Affairs, who was USC’s final decisionmaker on student discipline.
    This USC Vice President overruled the Misconduct Appellate
    Panel’s recommendation and determined the appropriate
    sanction was expulsion.
    Boermeester applied for a fifth layer of review by filing in
    the Superior Court. On March 21, 2018, the trial judge rendered
    a comprehensive and thoughtful 22-page opinion rejecting
    Boermeester’s claims.
    The trial court found substantial evidence supported USC’s
    decision to discipline Boermeester.
    The trial court emphasized the contemporaneous nature of
    Roe’s initial statement on January 23, 2017, noting the law
    ascribes more reliability to statements made right after a
    stressful event than to statements made only after witnesses
    have had time to ponder the consequences of their words.
    The judge quoted from the Brown case, reciting the
    established tendency of domestic violence victims to recant as
    part of the behavior patterns common in abusive relations. The
    judge wrote the “tendency is so well established that it is
    admissible, in the form of expert testimony, in prosecutions of
    domestic violence cases.”
    The judge canvassed California law and rejected
    Boermeester’s claim that USC had denied him due process. The
    court found USC accorded Boermeester ample process.
    In sum, Boermeester got full notice of the charges and the
    evidence against him. He had multiple opportunities to respond.
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    The process took more than a year and generated a record
    exceeding 2,000 pages.
    The process’s conclusion was Boermeester took Roe by the
    throat and shoved her against a concrete wall, which was
    intimate partner violence. USC deliberated about the penalty
    and decided to expel Boermeester.
    USC’s process was careful and fair. Its conclusion was
    straightforward: Boermeester should be disciplined for his
    domestic violence.
    III
    Boermeester’s least specious argument about his
    supposedly unfair treatment concerns live witness cross-
    examination. (I agree Boermeester’s notice was ample and his
    suspension was proper.) But Boermeester refused to submit
    cross-examination questions for Roe. No wonder. His tactical
    reason was that questioning Roe was the last thing Boermeester
    wanted, now that she had recanted completely and had come over
    to his side in a public way, on Twitter and all the rest.
    Questioning Roe—chancing any opportunity for her to modify or
    to contradict her recantation—offered Boermeester only peril.
    From Boermeester’s perspective, Roe’s recantation was perfect as
    it stood. Additional questioning could only spoil a good thing. So
    naturally Boermeester’s lawyer refused to submit questions for
    Roe.
    That means the cross-examination issue on appeal is
    entirely manufactured. It is not unfair to deny someone
    something they did not want.
    Lest there be doubt, study the exact words in the record.
    USC asked Boermeester’s attorney to submit questions for Roe
    and, through counsel, Boermeester refused. In response to USC’s
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    invitation to propose questions for Roe, Boermeester’s lawyer told
    USC “I am not interested in having [Roe] come in and being put
    on the spot yet again.” The italics are mine.
    Boermeester and his lawyer were free to ask for anything
    they wanted because the USC investigator created a continuously
    productive and collegial working relationship during the
    investigation. When Boermeester’s lawyer peppered USC with e-
    mail questions, USC responded promptly and professionally.
    For example, Boermeester’s lawyer e-mailed USC that he
    could not access a document from his desktop computer. USC
    wrote back within five minutes: “I just checked and you were
    granted access. I went ahead and re-invited you. Let me know if
    it works.”
    Sometimes USC did not grant Boermeester and his lawyer
    everything they wanted. But other times USC did accommodate
    Boermeester and his lawyer. USC’s written rules did not
    mandate or require these accommodations. USC gave them
    anyway, because it was behaving fairly and reasonably.
    For instance, USC offered Boermeester and his lawyer a
    second time to examine the evidentiary record—an invitation
    Boermeester and his lawyer accepted. No USC rule required
    this.
    In another situation, Boermeester’s lawyer asked USC to
    give Boermeester access to a telephone while examining evidence
    because the lawyer had “run into a serious snag here.” USC
    granted his request: “No problem.”
    It was 4:59 p.m. when Boermeester’s lawyer e-mailed this
    request for a favor. It was 8:09 p.m. that same day when USC
    granted the favor Boermeester’s lawyer requested.
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    USC literally was working overtime to be responsive to
    Boermeester and his lawyer.
    Through all this free give and take, Boermeester’s lawyer
    never requested live cross-examination. Rather, he expressly
    disavowed it and instead asked that USC e-mail questions to Roe.
    USC agreed to do that. USC’s response was: “You send me the
    questions and we will ask them of [Jane Roe].”
    Boermeester’s lawyer wrote “We would want to have
    questions sent to [Jane Roe] to respond and answers sent to us
    unfiltered.”
    USC said it indeed would not filter. It would provide the
    answers verbatim, and he would get them before any Summary
    Administrative Review.
    The sole difference between Boermeester’s lawyer and USC
    during this e-mail exchange was whether Boermeester would or
    would not get Roe’s answers that same afternoon—an immaterial
    timing detail Boermeester never mentions in briefing to this
    court.
    Boermeester claims this one exchange about filtering shows
    he adequately preserved for appeal all issues regarding cross-
    examination. This is incorrect. USC told Boermeester it would
    give him Roe’s unfiltered answers. True, there was an issue
    about timing, but Boermeester has abandoned this timing issue.
    He has never raised it in this appeal. His issue now is cross-
    examination. But Boermeester wrote USC “I am not interested
    in having [Roe] come in and being put on the spot yet again.”
    Grasp the strangeness of this situation. To USC in 2017,
    Boermeester’s lawyer said he did not want Roe to come in and be
    put on the spot again. On appeal in 2020, Boermeester’s lawyer
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    now says it is reversible error because Roe did not come in and
    was not put on the spot again.
    To rule for Boermeester on this issue in this situation is
    unusual. Accepting such an argument in this context is
    unprecedented.
    The same goes for witnesses besides Roe. Boermeester
    never sought those cross-examinations, and for good reason.
    These witnesses offered Boermeester nothing but danger.
    Recall the context. The looming problem was Roe’s detailed
    and damning original statement, the one appended to this
    opinion. An objective reading of that statement reveals it as the
    most powerful evidence in the case.
    Boermeester admitted the basic physical facts. He told
    USC “[m]y hand was on her neck, but it was normal.” When
    asked whether Roe made contact with the alley wall,
    Boermeester responded, “I mean, we were standing next to it. It
    was a sexual thing.”
    Given that Boermeester’s defense was his actions were
    mere horseplay—horseplay that Roe understood and accepted—
    there was no point in cross-examining witnesses besides Roe.
    Cross-examining DH could not matter. DH saw Roe pinned
    against the wall by Boermeester, who had his hand on her. DH
    did not see or hear Roe hit the wall. DH’s account was consistent
    with Boermeester’s version of events.
    Cross-examining TS could not matter. TS did not report
    seeing Boermeester put hands on Roe. TS arrived in the alley
    after the event. He was not an eyewitness to the disputed event.
    Cross-examining MB2 was like cross-examining Roe: a
    good thing for Boermeester to avoid. MB2 initially minimized
    having seen much in the alley. Then his guilty conscience made
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    MB2 contact USC on his own initiative. MB2 had initially
    minimized because Roe asked him to protect Boermeester and to
    downplay the event. But MB2 confessed his initial lie was
    bothering him. What he had actually seen, he now revealed, was
    that Boermeester “domestically was abusing [Roe].” He said the
    “truth is I really wanted to beat the shit out of this guy
    [Boermeester].”
    Cross-examining a witness like that is playing with fire.
    Boermeester sensibly passed on this opportunity to play Russian
    roulette. Boermeester’s reasonable litigation strategy was to
    disparage MB2’s second statement as a contradiction and to
    avoid giving MB2 a soapbox on which to vent.
    In sum, there is good reason why Boermeester never asked
    to cross-examine witnesses other than Roe. These witnesses
    either did not matter or were hazardous to question further.
    Boermeester sensibly avoided further questions to these
    witnesses.
    There was no deprivation of a right to confrontation.
    Rather, there was no request for it. This was a thoughtful
    litigation strategy by competent counsel to avoid confrontation
    and to leave the record as it stood. As it stood, the record was not
    pretty, but defense counsel had to play the hand his client dealt
    him. Adding questioning—adding confrontation—was not going
    to help. It was likely to backfire. The choice was to argue the
    case as it stood or to risk making the record worse. Counsel
    chose to steer clear of the risk. That was reasonable. But that
    also should have shut off any appeal on the topic.
    Boermeester claims futility. He says it would have been
    futile to ask for what he now says was indispensable. That is
    incorrect. His attorney was vigilant and aggressive. When he
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    wanted something, he asked for it. Sometimes USC
    accommodated him; sometimes not. Every institution is free to
    depart from written procedures when both sides agree that is the
    fair and reasonable thing to do. Nothing barred Boermeester
    from asking for further questions for any witness.
    Boermeester did not ask for questions, not because it was
    futile to do so, but because he did not want further questions. As
    we have seen, the record contradicts his claim it was futile for
    him to request questioning.
    Boermeester cites In re Antonio C. (2000) 
    83 Cal. App. 4th 1029
    , 1033, but there the prosecution conceded futility. That also
    is true of People v. Hopkins (1992) 
    10 Cal. App. 4th 1699
    , 1702,
    where there is no sign the parties contested the issue of futility
    and consequently no analysis of the issue. These cases are
    irrelevant.
    To show it is futile to object, counsel generally must show it
    is costly to assert your rights. (E.g., People v. Hill (1998) 
    17 Cal. 4th 800
    , 820.) There was nothing like that in the civil and
    productive working relationship between Boermeester and USC.
    To reverse USC for failing to grant Boermeester something he
    never requested is unwarranted. It would be unprecedented, and
    an unwise retreat from the usual rule.
    The usual rule is you must ask for something you later
    claim on appeal was vital, so the school can know what you want
    and can resolve your issue short of litigation. (Doe v. Occidental
    College (2019) 
    37 Cal. App. 5th 1003
    , 1018 (Occidental I) [issue
    must be raised in the first instance at the hearing or appellant
    forfeits it]; Doe v. Occidental College (2019) 
    40 Cal. App. 5th 208
    ,
    225 (Occidental II) [“By failing to make the argument until his
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    appeal to this court, [the complaining student] forfeited it.”]
    [collecting forfeiture authorities].)
    The rationale for this rule is fairness and efficiency. A
    school is entitled to learn the contentions of interested parties
    before litigation is instituted so it can gain the opportunity to act
    and to render litigation unnecessary. (See Sierra Club v. City of
    Orange (2008) 
    163 Cal. App. 4th 523
    , 535.)
    Boermeester asks to be excused from this rule of fairness
    and efficiency, so on appeal he can get what he never requested
    during the school’s proceedings.
    I would stick with the usual rule: if you want something,
    ask for it. Stockpiling secret grievances should not be acceptable.
    Boermeester also makes a different argument than futility.
    This argument is unforseeability. Boermeester now claims he
    could not reasonably have been expected to foresee the holding in
    Doe v. Allee (2019) 
    30 Cal. App. 5th 1036
    (Allee) requiring cross-
    examination. Boermeester makes this unforseeability argument
    as another excuse for attacking USC about the cross-
    examinations he never asked USC to give him.
    Boermeester’s unforseeability argument is insupportable.
    In 2016, before the events in Boermeester’s case, a court already
    had held “cross-examination was essential to due process” in a
    student discipline case. (Doe v. University of Cincinnati
    (S.D.Ohio 2016) 
    223 F. Supp. 3d 704
    , 711.) This ruling was
    affirmed on appeal. Represented by the same lawyer now
    representing Boermeester, student Doe in the Allee case relied
    heavily on this University of Cincinnati precedent. The Allee
    court followed this lawyer’s lead, repeatedly citing and discussing
    both the trial and appellate rulings in the University of
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    Cincinnati case. 
    (Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at pp. 1059, 1061,
    1062, 1064, 1066, 1068.)
    In short, Boermeester’s lawyer in 2017 indeed could have
    foreseen something written into law in 2016.
    So the strangeness remains. Boermeester’s lawyer was
    comfortable asking USC for favors because USC was responsive
    and professional. Boermeester’s lawyer had legal authority for
    demanding cross-examination. Yet this lawyer never requested
    cross-examination. It was the opposite: Boermeester’s lawyer
    wrote he did not want it. But now Boermeester’s lawyer says
    USC treated him unfairly for not giving him what he did not
    want. That is strange.
    IV
    Boermeester seeks to import precedents into this domestic
    violence setting from outside it, but his suggestion is unsound.
    These precedents involve cross-examination when a woman and a
    man tell conflicting stories: he said nothing bad happened; she
    said oh yes it did. In those cases, disciplinarians had to decide
    which speaker to believe. The accused man wanted cross-
    examination to shake the woman’s story. Here, by contrast, the
    two versions came from one witness: Roe’s witness statement
    close to the event versus Roe’s later recantations. Boermeester
    did not want to cross-examine Roe because that tactic could only
    harm him.
    Boermeester cites precedents, but they never deal with a
    victim of domestic violence who recants. His citations do not
    apply here, because the worth of cross-examination to an accused
    changes fundamentally when the victim recants. An accused
    wants to confront accusers steadfast in their accusations to shake
    the force of their accusations. But when a domestic violence
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    victim has publicly recanted, the accused already has all he
    wants. Further questioning offers him only hazard.
    Boermeester’s precedents follow a common fact pattern
    inapplicable to this case. The common fact pattern involves two
    people who do not live together: they are not cohabitants. They
    are not in a domestic relationship. And there is no domestic
    violence. Rather, there is some short-lived and unhappy sexual
    encounter, with the woman and the man maintaining different
    versions afterwards about what happened. There is never
    recantation. Thus there is never the situation where the accused
    wants to sustain, not to shake, the recantation.
    There are 11 such cases.
    1. Occidental I
    I, supra
    , 40 Cal.App.5th at pages 211–220
    [woman and man lived separately and disagreed
    about whether she was too incapacitated to consent to
    sexual relations after a fraternity party; no mention of
    domestic violence or a recanting witness];
    2. Occidental 
    I, supra
    , 37 Cal.App.5th at pages 1006–
    1013 [woman and man lived separately; sexual
    penetration after a party; man said woman consented;
    woman said she did not consent; no mention of
    domestic violence or a recanting witness];
    3. Doe v. Westmont College (2019) 
    34 Cal. App. 5th 622
    ,
    627–629 (Westmont) [woman and man lived
    separately and disagreed about whether they had
    intercourse during a college party; no mention of
    domestic violence or a recanting witness];
    4. 
    Allee, supra
    , 30 Cal.App.5th at pages 1043–1053
    [woman and man lived separately; one episode of
    intercourse; man said woman consented; woman said
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    she did not consent; no mention of domestic violence
    or a recanting witness];
    5.   Doe v. University of Southern California (2018) 
    29 Cal. App. 5th 1212
    , 1216–1229 (USC 2018) [woman and
    man lived separately and disagreed about whether the
    woman was too drunk to consent to a night of sexual
    activity; no mention of domestic violence or a
    recanting witness];
    6.   Doe v. Regents of University of California (2018) 
    28 Cal. App. 5th 44
    , 46–55 [woman and man lived
    separately and disagreed about whether they had
    sexual relations during a birthday party; no mention
    of domestic violence or a recanting witness];
    7.   Doe v. Claremont McKenna College (2018) 
    25 Cal. App. 5th 1055
    , 1058–1064 [woman and man lived
    separately and disagreed about whether the woman
    consented to intercourse; no mention of domestic
    violence or a recanting witness];
    8.   Doe v. Regents of University of California (2016) 
    5 Cal. App. 5th 1055
    , 1058–1072 [woman and man lived
    separately and disagreed about whether they had
    consensual sexual relations; no mention of domestic
    violence or a recanting witness];
    9.   Doe v. University of Southern California (2016) 
    246 Cal. App. 4th 221
    , 224–238 [woman and man lived
    separately and disagreed about whether the man
    failed to protect the woman from sexual assault by
    other men at a fraternity party; no mention of
    domestic violence or a recanting witness];
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    10. Doe v. Baum (6th Cir. 2018) 
    903 F.3d 575
    , 578–580
    (Baum) [woman and man lived separately and
    disagreed about whether she was too incapacitated to
    consent to sexual relations at a fraternity party; no
    mention of domestic violence or a recanting witness];
    11. Doe v. University of Cincinnati (6th Cir. 2017) 
    872 F.3d 393
    , 396–399 [woman and man lived separately
    and disagreed about whether their one episode of
    sexual relations was consensual; no mention of
    domestic violence or a recanting witness].
    In sum, Boermeester asks this court to do what no court
    has done: overturn student discipline because the accused
    student did not get a chance to question a recanter, which is
    something the accused said he did not want and something that
    could have done him no good.
    The same is true for Boermeester’s new theory that the real
    problem was his inability to cross-examine secondary witnesses
    like MB2 and DH. If Boermeester has cited holdings to that
    effect, I have missed them. I am not familiar with a holding that
    discipline will be overturned when a school does not entertain
    cross-examination that is never requested.
    The cases to date all concern the right of confrontation
    when it could possibly have done the man some good. No
    precedent deals with a situation where the man wanted to avoid
    confrontation because it offered him only peril.
    V
    It mystifies me how California Courts of Appeal have
    concluded the federal due process clause applies when there is no
    state action. Intermediate appellate courts have announced a
    state common law rule that procedures in private schools should
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    mirror the federal constitution. That is a leap. State law
    governing private schools can depart from constitutional rules
    that govern state institutions. (E.g., Doe v. Trustees of Boston
    College (1st Cir. 2019) 
    942 F.3d 527
    , 533–534.)
    Someday the California Supreme Court may choose to trace
    and to evaluate this rule’s rise in the lower California courts.
    If this happens, it may be notable that the present is a time
    of ferment in the field of student misconduct discipline.
    A
    The law is in ferment.
    Boermeester contends it is unconstitutional for schools to
    use a disciplinary process departing from a fully adversarial
    model. USC designed a less adversarial model we can call an
    investigatory, as opposed to an adversarial, approach.
    It may be some esteemed institutions of higher education
    prefer an investigatory approach to an adversarial one. (See
    Tamara Rice Lave, A Critical Look at How Top Colleges and
    Universities Are Adjudicating Sexual Assault (2017) 71 U.Miami
    L.Rev. 377, 393–394.)
    Perhaps there are good reasons why.
    Some courts condemn the investigatory approach. (See
    
    Baum, supra
    , 903 F.3d at pp. 581–585; 
    Allee, supra
    , 30
    Cal.App.5th at pp. 1067–1069 [citing Baum].)
    But this position is controversial. (See Haidak v.
    University of Massachusetts-Amherst (1st Cir. 2019) 
    933 F.3d 56
    ,
    68–71 [criticizing Baum; U.S. law considers the inquisitorial or
    investigatory model “fair enough for critical administrative
    decisions like whether to award or terminate disability benefits.
    See Sims v. Apfel [(2000)] 
    530 U.S. 103
    , 110–[1]11 . . . (explaining
    that Social Security proceedings are inquisitorial rather than
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    adversarial).”]; 
    Westmont, supra
    , 34 Cal.App.5th at p. 637
    [combining investigative and adjudicative functions does not,
    without more, deprive a student accused of sexual misconduct of
    a fair hearing]; USC 
    2018, supra
    , 29 Cal.App.5th at p. 1235, fn.
    29 [although investigator held dual roles as the investigator and
    adjudicator, the combination of investigative and adjudicative
    functions does not, without more, constitute a due process
    violation].)
    In sum, there is a nationwide legal debate about the right
    way to investigate claims of student misconduct. There is little
    consensus.
    B
    The facts are in ferment. At this moment there is
    considerable procedural experimentation. On hundreds or
    thousands of campuses across the land, informed and thoughtful
    people are discussing the right way to handle these cases. This
    discussion is in good faith and is wide open. There is ongoing
    innovation and little consensus.
    The American Law Institute (ALI) launched a project in
    2015 to evaluate this debate and to advise school decisionmakers.
    By design, the ALI’s process is deliberate and thoughtful. The
    project remains in process.
    C
    At this moment of discussion, a grave concern is the effect
    of mandatory cross-examination on the willingness of victims to
    report abuse.
    We are learning a lot recently about why abuse victims
    may be reluctant to report abuse and to trigger a process leading
    to more abuse.
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    Being cross-examined is an unattractive prospect. Skilled
    cross-examiners take pride in being fearsome. We often say a
    good cross-examination “destroyed” a witness, that the cross-
    examination was “scathing.” These words are accurate. They are
    telling.
    The prospect of being destroyed by a scathing cross-
    examination can deter reporting. Fine words in opinions
    somewhere about all the possible procedural adjustments may
    mean little to a lonely and traumatized woman anguishing over
    her options.
    Striking the right balance is a challenge. It would be
    beneficial to tap the ongoing national debate and
    experimentation before promulgating some mandatory
    constitutional code of campus procedures. Judge Henry Friendly
    praised the wisdom of Justice Harlan and quoted his words: “I
    seriously doubt the wisdom of these ‘guideline’ decisions. They
    suffer the danger of pitfalls that usually go with judging in a
    vacuum. However carefully written, they are apt in their
    application to carry unintended consequences which once
    accomplished are not always easy to repair.” (Henry Friendly,
    Some Kind of Hearing (1975) 123 U.Penn. L.Rev. 1267, 1302,
    quoting Sanders v. United States (1963) 
    373 U.S. 1
    , 32 (dis. opn.
    of Harlan, J.).)
    D
    Striking the right balance ought to concern courts, but not
    in this case. This case was never about a denial of cross-
    examination—not until now, at any rate. At the university level,
    Boermeester disavowed interest in “putting Roe on the spot
    again” because his litigation strategy was to sustain her
    recantation and to avoid roiling it. Nor did Boermeester lift a
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    finger to try to cross-examine other witnesses during USC’s
    process.
    Boermeester’s counsel has manufactured this cross-
    examination issue. He has done so because he hopes someone
    will accept his construct, not because cross-examination was
    anything he sought at the time. His construct makes
    Boermeester the victim. USC is the perpetrator.
    This is awry. I would not intrude on USC’s
    decisionmaking, which was procedurally proper and is supported
    by substantial evidence.
    WILEY, J.
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    APPENDIX
    Jane Roe Intake Interview
    Source: Administrative Record pp. 183–189
    Word count: 3404
    Notes: “T9” presumably means Title IX
    MB presumably means Matthew Boermeester
    Jane Roe Intake – (JR)
    Date: January 23, 2017
    Location: CUB
    Advisor: Lani Lawrence
    Interviewers: Lauren Elan Helsper (LEH) and Gretchen Means
    (GM)
    JR has been dating Matt since March 2016. Their relationship
    was on and off for a while but that is when they started seriously
    seeing each other.
    Why are you here today?
    - JR knows this is a “bad situation” but she hasn’t told
    anyone. “This is the worst one, the one people know”
    (regarding the incident over the weekend which prompted
    her coming to the office)
    - “I still care about him”
    At the beginning of the relationship JR had bruises on her arm
    from Matt and her dad found out and wanted her to get a
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    restraining order against him. JR told her father that the bruise
    was “circumstantial” and his concern died down. Her parents
    don’t like him.
    She doesn’t know what to do or if she wants to do anything. She
    knows he can’t be in her life
    Matt lived with her all fall semester. He got “screwed out” of his
    rent situation in August and it fell through. He presented it to
    JR as, “I am here all the time, I am going to live with ‘CT’ and
    pay a little there” but stay with JR really. He told her about
    living with CT and paying money there so they weren’t moving in
    together. He wasn’t paying rent to JR or to CT. Matt moved his
    stuff into her apartment and he was living with her. He never
    presented it to her though as he was going to move in. He never
    left. They broke up and he would stay or they would fight and he
    wouldn’t leave.
    Now he has his own apartment since Christmas break but he has
    still been at her apartment.
    Matt tells JR that he hates her and is mad at her and when she
    asks “Why are you here?” He said, “I can do whatever the fuck I
    want” and tells her to “Shut up.”
    “There is no arguing with him. He doesn’t think he is doing
    anything wrong.” Matt thinks JR deserves it. They broke up
    because JR went to dinner with her ex and lied about it to Matt
    and so he sees it as her fault. The other day, JR asked Matt,
    “What if you hurt me bad. Would you feel bad? If you were
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    playing around and it hurt?” Matt told her “no,” because it would
    have been brought on by her. He gets mad at her if she doesn’t
    back away or stop talking when he tells her too [sic].
    JR acknowledges that she knows that this is not her fault.
    Matt was not nice to her roommates so they didn’t like him. One
    of her roommates tried to get her evicted because he was there.
    This was in end of October. The roommate went to the landlord
    instead of talking to JR. The roommate didn’t realize that Matt
    doesn’t listen to JR when she tells him to leave and instead tells
    her that she can leave but it is her house.
    She is 5”4-5”’5 [sic] and she weighs 130. He is stronger than she
    is but she doesn’t factor that into things.
    On Friday they spent the day together. They are not together
    and haven’t been together for a while but he still is at her house
    often. They had a “good day.” MB went to party and was
    drinking a lot. He called her at 12:30–1am to pick him up so she
    did. (He often goes out, parties, and calls her to pick him up).
    They went to get food and came back to her place. He was the
    drunkest she has ever seen him. He was yelling at people and
    tried to be funny. There is an alley behind the house and he was
    yelling in the alley.
    They got out of the car and he wanted her to drop Ziggy’s leash
    but she didn’t want to. (He is mean to Ziggy and she was shaking
    in the floor. He yells at her and she cowers in the cage). He
    grabbed the back of JR’s hair hard and said “drop the fucking
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    leash” and she said no. Matt grabbed JR harder and then she
    dropped the leash because it “hurt.” DH heard them yelling.
    Matt grabbed JR by the neck (which he has done before but this
    time it was harder). She was coughing and he let go and
    laughed. He made a comment about the show “west world” and
    how you can hurt the robots because they aren’t well. JR didn’t
    really understand it). He grabbed her by the neck, pushed her
    hard against the [concrete] wall, she hit her head, he let go and
    then did it again. DH and TS saw and another neighbor came
    out. He said that they were just “playing around.”
    DH and TS took her into their apartment and Matt was asleep
    when she got back to her room.
    (Regarding holding her by the neck) - Matt grabbed her from the
    front. He was holding “tight.” She could still breathe but it hurt
    and she coughed. He has done this before. But he says that he is
    “messing around.” He does it when he is rough housing (not
    sexually) or to “freeze me” when he wants to stop her. The times
    they were “messing around” she was sometimes scared.
    He hits her or does something to egg her on and tries to get her to
    play and then he grabs her by the neck to stop her.
    This Friday was the “worst.” Her head hurt for a little after she
    hit the wall.
    She often has bruises on her legs or arms because “he is always
    doing something.”
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    If JR didn’t stay with Matt after the incident, “he wouldn’t
    understand.” For example, the next day he slept all day in her
    bed. She went to speak to DH and Matt said don’t go over there,
    “tell him to deal with his shit” and Matt was “freaking out” and
    said, “what the fuck? Why are you taking that long?” (when it
    was only 30 minutes)[.] Matt just yells at her. She didn’t want to
    make it worse and so she just does what he says to avoid yelling
    and conflict.
    Bruises on arms – When JR doesn’t do what Matt wants she gets
    bruised. That is a more recent thing (when they were together,
    he would grab her arm too tight). Recently Matt is “more angry,”
    “I am too close to him or I don’t get away fast enough or if I don’t
    stop talking” then he hits her with a pointed finger so she gets
    bruises. He does that to her arm, leg, lower back, stomach.
    Sometimes he laughs. She feels like she doesn’t respond as
    “severely” as she should. She says ouch but doesn’t laugh, but
    she “downplays it” and is not firm. She does this to keep it light
    and because she is uncomfortable. She tried yesterday to be more
    serious and he said, “stop, I don’t care.” He didn’t take her
    seriously.
    Matt has pulled her hair more than once. He gives her a dead
    arm/leg (punches in a certain spot so the body goes numb and it
    hurts but it goes limp). It is a hard hit. He does this when she
    doesn’t do what he wants her to do.
    He thinks it is fun to “fight” and wants her to engage and eggs
    her on or when she doesn’t do what he wants. Even when she
    does engage. (He slaps her 15 times to egg her on and then
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    finally she does it back and says stop and he says stop and then
    he will do it again and say, he had to get her back). “It is to get
    her going.” JR thinks he thinks it is having fun.
    He did it yesterday when they were just watching TV and he
    started (she doesn’t know what starts it) and he starts messing
    with her, hitting her and she says stop and he will keep going.
    “It feels too painful for it to just be playful but the attitude
    behind it is just being playful.” She is not sure if this is what he
    is used to from his brothers or is not realizing enough is enough.
    When Matt first started hurting her, it was not often and it has
    gotten worse. “I was kind of taken aback.” The first time she
    was scared of him was when they got into a fight at the beginning
    of the relationship. He was yelling, and “shook me really hard”
    and threatened to hit her. This was the first time she was
    scared. This was a while ago. She thought about it like just a
    fight. “He said that he is only like this because she made him do
    this, or he can’t trust her or they weren’t actually together and
    that “he will get better.”
    “It then started playful and it hurt but his attitude was confusing
    and it just got worse and worse and then I was like in it.”
    Before Matt, JR was with someone else that was a really good
    guy. They were together for about 2 years. Matt came into her
    life. He is very manipulative and she believed that she wanted to
    be with Matt instead. “[T]he highs are very high and the lows
    are very lows [sic].” At that point her relationship with the other
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    guy was “very solid.” “Matt was flashy” and took her on crazy
    dates that the other guy couldn’t give her. She drifted to Matt.
    He said that at first, he couldn’t be nice to her because she was
    with the other guy and that made sense to her at the time.
    They had problems in the relationship. He was mean and always
    putting her down. He told her how stupid she is. Recently for a
    24 hour period she decided to write down every mean thing he
    said to her on her phone. She read a long list of things. After
    hearing how dumb she is, how bad she is at tennis, and always
    being put down, she started to believe it.
    JR did not cheat on Matt but “when things got bad” (her ex was
    always sweet) [s]he sometimes would go to dinner with the other
    guy because “it was really bad” (with Matt). She slept over her
    exes [sic] house but didn’t do anything. She knew it would
    sabotage the relationship with Matt. The next day, she told Matt
    and he shook her, Matt was so “mad” and somehow convinced JR
    that she needed to fix it. He made her feel bad and that she was
    imagining these problems. “So he would give me one more
    chance.” “[B]ut already then I was on his leash.” The whole time
    she had to prove herself.
    In the end of October, her ex said that he had to go back to Brazil
    and that he wanted to go to dinner with her first. She went
    without telling Matt but he found out. Matt broke up with her.
    He told her that she deserved it. He told her that she could still
    prove her worth and “get me back.” He would go out nightly and
    come back to JR’s place and yell at her nightly and she would cry
    and it was “very intense.”
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    When they broke up (and in her prove herself phase) she hooked
    up with someone and he was nice to her. Matt found out and
    thought that, “I did so much wrong that I deserve this.”
    He still lived in her room and slept in the same bed as JR even
    though they were broken up. That is when her roommate tried to
    evict her.
    They didn’t talk for a week over New Years and then he was at
    his apartment for a week. He had surgery on his knee, he got
    sick and came back to JR’s because he said, “closer to walk
    there.” Matt told her that he came to stay with her because “You
    do what I say, I hate you but it is easier.” “I need to take care of
    him he says.”
    His ego is “through the roof” since the Rose Bowl.
    She spent a lot of time over the summer with his family. His dad
    is super sweet and submissive, his mom runs the family. Mom is
    a lawyer, she is very nice but in charge of the family.
    JR gave a timeline of events:
    December 2015–April 2016 Matt was in her life (seeing each
    other but not dating)
    April 2016–end of October 2016 – they were dating
    June 2016 (early) – shaking incident
    1st August – he officially moved into her house
    End of October 2016 – they broke up but he was still at her
    house. He was going on dates with girls and talking to girls
    while living with her
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    Matt moved out the first week of spring 2017
    From April to June – there were no physical incidents
    The shaking incident was in June because she went to dinner
    with her ex
    June to when Matt moved-in to her place in August – the
    physical contact was not very often maybe once a week if not less.
    “It was playful but it wasn’t that bad. It has gotten stronger. It
    didn’t hurt like now.”
    Her parents noticed the bruising before the June incident – Matt
    kicked her when she was in bed because she was coming closer to
    him and her kicked her arm to get her away. Her parents found
    out because she was crying and told her ex that she was scared of
    Matt and he called her parents and told them
    Shaking incident – “he was mad because I didn’t want to show
    him my phone so he took it, threw it out the door” and then shook
    her.
    The physical contact “became more often and more hurtful” – “I
    think it is longer than I really want to remember. In my mind I
    think it was really recently. But then I had the bruise on [my]
    arm in May.” It has been more often since they broke up if not
    before then and probably something every day but the degree
    varies if they spend solid hours together in privacy.
    - He did these things privately. She doesn’t think anyone
    knew.
    - Her roommates knew but her voice didn’t get the urgency
    to make them think it was bad. They knew he was verbally
    abusive.
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    The next day (after the weekend incident) she tried to talk to
    Matt and she said that he scared DH and TS and they heard him
    yelling and “it looked really bad when you pushed me and it
    looked really bad with your hand around my neck.” Matt said “it
    was a joke, we were messing around, tell them to calm down.” He
    said, “tell them you’re into that” and he implied that it was
    foreplay.
    Matt is the star child and is very spoiled but if his parents knew
    they would be very mad. Matt does not talk to her nicely
    Mom – [name redacted] (lawyer)
    He never forced her during sex or hurt her during sex.
    On Saturday he was yelling which got DH and TS’s attention, He
    was just being a loud drunk person. DH at first thought it was a
    loud drunk person and then he heard JR’s voice. At first she was
    laughing, probably they heard her say no to drop the leash. He
    woke them up and then they heard her.
    He wanted to “toughen me up.” He wanted me to call him names
    back or hit him back. He thought [she] was too submissive
    because she didn’t want to.
    Looking back how do you think your roommates might describe
    you as they thought something was going on?
    - Her best friend wanted her out of the relationship for a
    long time. She was strong and told JR she was “weak.”
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    -   DH would say she has been very “preoccupied” she can’t do
    what she wants. She is very controlled.
    -   People didn’t understand the severity but knew that he was
    treating her badly. They thought she was being weak or
    stupid. She was she knew because it is hard.
    - “He is very good at making me feel like I need him.”
    He has torn her down so she has become dependent
    on him.
    -   Throughout the time, her ex was supportive and telling her
    she was the best and trying to lift her up but it wouldn’t
    register because Matt was saying negative things to her
    -   She still had feelings for Matt and she didn’t know why.
    She has been “holding onto the highs even though it has
    been low for a really long time.”
    A week before they broke up she went to him to break up because
    he was mean and disrespecting her parents and but [sic] he told
    her “no, we aren’t breaking up.” He said “every time we get into
    a fight, you are going to run? No, we are going to work this out.”
    He always said that he was the best thing that she was going to
    get. She started to believe it and she couldn’t go anywhere.
    Now she is starting to realize how bad it was. She became numb
    that he treats her bad and isn’t worked up like she was in the
    past. ([T]his is after the break). She made him soup because he
    told her he was sick and she offered toast. He was so mean about
    the toast that she cried. But in the past week, she is stronger.
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    Last night, he said that he is done and that he won’t come over
    anymore. But in the past, she would say, “no, don’t go” but she
    “still can’t say get the fuck out.” She is less madly in love with
    him than she was before.
    Her best friend is dating RP and he is a great guy. RP told her
    Matt is ‘bad news.’ RP asked MB for JR’s key back over break
    and Matt said no.
    GM explained her options regarding moving forward:
    1. Avoidance of Contact – and we will try to get the key back
    from him
    2. GM explained that we have to investigate what happened on
    Friday even without her because of the witnesses and the
    neighbor
    a. This afternoon there is a panel regarding an interim
    suspension
    i. Clay already knows
    She is scared because she didn’t want “to burn him.” She knows
    that she didn’t bring it to us. GM explained that people are very
    scared for her. GM said that it will be clear it was made by T9
    and not her.
    She graduates in December 2017 and he has one more year at
    USC.
    DH told JR that he is not going to participate.
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    GM offered emergency housing. She wants it to feel safe. She
    wants it tonight and tomorrow night and then Sunday and
    Monday when she returns from her team tennis trip.
    GM explained:
    1. The panel will meet re: to discuss whether interim action is
    necessary to protect JR and restrict him
    2. AOC will be served from T9 and Matt will not be allowed to
    contact apartment – mates (JR stated that she wants the AOC)
    3. He will be served with the charge letter for IPV
    4. He will be served with everything at once – on Thursday
    after she goes to Auburn
    JR’s dad is a professor and if he calls we can explain the process
    and [what] we are doing.
    Matt has the password for her computer and she is going to
    change it.
    She has a hard time relating to the severity for herself and for his
    consequences
    Witness – Best friend is an alum (GO);
    She is going to get us the name of the neighbor – MB2
    {REDACTED}
    Lani’s number – GM has
    JR is not participating in the investigation. JR and LL completed
    the FERPA form and the confidentiality agreement
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    GM explained academic accommodations
    Investigator Notes: JR was crying throughout the meeting. She
    offered information regarding her entire history with MB. After
    GM told her that T9 was forced to go through an investigation on
    the Friday incident as there are witnesses, JR said that she
    understand[s]. JR does not want to participate in the
    investigation and did not want T9 to charge on the conduct that
    she divulged other than the Friday incident.
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