People v. Buschauer , 2022 IL App (1st) 192472 ( 2022 )


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    2022 IL App (1st) 192472
    No. 1-19-2472
    Opinion filed September 19, 2022
    First Division
    IN THE
    APPELLATE COURT OF ILLINOIS
    FIRST DISTRICT
    THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS,               )     Appeal from the Circuit Court
    )     of Cook County.
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                         )
    )
    v.                                                 )     No. 13 CR 9408
    )
    FRANK BUSCHAUER,                                   )     The Honorable
    )     Joseph Michael Cataldo,
    Defendant-Appellant.                        )     Judge, presiding.
    JUSTICE HYMAN delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion.
    Justices Pucinski and Walker concurred in the judgment and opinion.
    OPINION
    ¶1          In early 2000, Frank Buschauer called 911 after finding his wife, Cynthia Hrisco,
    unresponsive in the bathtub in their master bedroom. After an investigation that included hours
    questioning Buschauer, the case went cold. Buschauer and his young son moved to Wisconsin.
    More than a decade later, police reopened their investigation and interviewed Buschauer again.
    South Barrington police officers went to Wisconsin with a criminal complaint and warrant for
    Buschauer’s arrest. When they met Buschauer, they did not execute the warrant or tell Buschauer
    they had it; instead, they asked Buschauer to accompany them to a local police station for an
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    interview. Buschauer complied, received Miranda warnings (see Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    (1966)), and spoke with detectives for hours before invoking his right to counsel. The State
    eventually charged Buschauer with first degree murder, and after a bench trial, the court found him
    guilty and sentenced him to 25 years’ imprisonment.
    ¶2          Buschauer now raises two categories of arguments challenging his conviction. In the first,
    he makes a battery of constitutional challenges, invoking both the United States and Illinois
    Constitutions, to argue the trial court should have barred the statements he made in 2013 to South
    Barrington police. He also raises evidentiary and constitutional challenges to testimony from three
    of Hrisco’s friends, who all provided statements from Hrisco that she made to them.
    ¶3          We affirm. The trial court correctly admitted Buschauer’s 2013 statements to police because
    the officers’ decision to withhold information about Buschauer’s arrest warrant did not affect the
    validity of his Miranda waiver or make the circumstances of the 2013 interrogation fundamentally
    unfair. As to Buschauer’s claims about Hrisco’s statements to her friends, we find that they were
    primarily nonhearsay and nontestimonial. The trial court committed neither evidentiary nor
    constitutional error in admitting them.
    ¶4                                             Background
    ¶5          This court reviewed Buschauer’s case in 2016 to decide whether statements to police in
    March 2000 were admissible. For an in-depth review of the facts, consult People v. Buschauer,
    
    2016 IL App (1st) 142766
    . Here, we focus on the facts applicable to this appeal.
    ¶6          At 2:25 a.m. on February 28, 2000, South Barrington police officer Bryant Haniszewski
    responded to Buschauer’s 911 call. He met Buschauer at the front door of his home. Buschauer said
    his wife drowned in the bathtub and took Haniszewski to the second-floor master bathroom.
    Haniszewski saw Hrisco’s body on the floor next to the still-filled and running whirlpool tub.
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    Haniszewski touched her body; she felt hot. Buschauer told Haniszewski that, when he first went
    into the bathroom, he could not see Hrisco in the foamy water. So, he reached into the water, felt
    her body, and pulled her to the floor. Haniszewski thought this odd; Buschauer’s clothes appeared
    dry, and nothing had been disturbed on the bathtub ledge, including a plant and glass containers.
    ¶7          The next day, Detective Daniel Kaepplinger of the South Barrington Police Department
    interviewed Deborah Kram, a friend of Hrisco’s. Kram said Hrisco had confided that she and
    Buschauer had been having marital problems for two years concerning the construction of their
    house. Buschauer’s cousin did the work, and Hrisco objected to the quality and thought the cousin
    overcharged them by as much as $200,000. When the couple talked about the house, Buschauer
    would “blow up.” Hrisco described him as a “Jekyll and Hyde and would go off” on her. Once, he
    grabbed her neck and threatened to kill her if she tried to pursue her complaints against his cousin
    and said he regretted marrying her. Just four days before she died, Hrisco told Kram she feared
    Buschauer.
    ¶8          On March 4, South Barrington police officer James Kaplan interviewed Cheryl Kolweier,
    another of Hrisco’s friends. Hrisco had told Kolweier about marital difficulties, including an
    incident the previous fall in which the couple argued about the house. Hrisco said Buschauer
    grabbed her by the shoulders, shook her, and said he “would kill her” if she continued pressuring
    his cousin.
    ¶9          Kaplan and fellow South Barrington police officer Mark Eaton interviewed Dr. Nancy Jones
    at the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office. Dr. Jones had reviewed the results of Hrisco’s
    autopsy. Dr. Jones opined that Hrisco’s injuries conflicted with an accidental drowning. A
    hemorrhage in her neck occurred at or near the time of death, indicating either strangulation or
    getting hit with a blunt object. Hrisco also had petechial hemorrhaging under the scalp, a finding
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    more like asphyxiation than drowning. And she had a pooling of blood due to congestion of blood
    vessels (known as “lividity”), indicating she would have been faced down at death. Dr. Jones
    described the death as “very suspicious.”
    ¶ 10                                 March 2000 Interview and Search
    ¶ 11          On March 6, 2000, Buschauer voluntarily drove to the South Barrington police station.
    Because the South Barrington police station lacked adequate facilities for an interview, Detective
    Kaepplinger took Buschauer to the Hoffman Estates police station. Buschauer sat in the front
    passenger seat with the doors unlocked. When they arrived, Buschauer was alone in the lobby for
    several minutes while Kaepplinger located Illinois State Police special agents Cindy Tencza and
    Peter Zeman.
    ¶ 12          Tencza and Zeman interviewed Buschauer in an unlocked interview room for over 13 hours,
    taking several short breaks, including lunch and dinner. During the morning, Buschauer told Tencza
    and Zeman that Hrisco went upstairs for a bath around 9 p.m. A half-hour later, he went to bed.
    Although the bathroom door was closed, he heard the whirlpool and Hrisco get into the tub. He fell
    asleep until 2:30 a.m., awakened by his infant son’s cries. The whirlpool was still running, so he
    went into the bathroom. At first, he did not see her due to “foamy” water. Then, he reached under
    the water and felt Hrisco’s body facedown. He pulled her out, placed her facedown on the floor,
    and called 911.
    ¶ 13          After a break in the interview at 10:35 a.m., Buschauer told the investigators he and Hrisco
    recently had been arguing about the cost of building their home and structural problems they
    discovered. Buschauer also said he found Hrisco faceup yet, a short time later, again said she was
    facedown. He could not explain why the objects around the tub remained undisturbed when he
    pulled her out.
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    ¶ 14          After a lunch break, the interview resumed at 12:30 p.m. Zeman advised Buschauer of his
    Miranda rights from a preprinted form. Buschauer signed a waiver, indicating he understood his
    rights. Buschauer stated that he could have killed Hrisco but had no memory of so doing. He offered
    to take a “truth serum” and a polygraph test.
    ¶ 15          Buschauer signed a voluntary consent to search his home. South Barrington police searched
    the kitchen, dining room, first-floor office, and master bedroom. The officers seized two
    handwritten letters on the kitchen counter and recovered seven pages from the desktop computer.
    The interview concluded at 10:30 p.m.; Buschauer promised to return the next morning.
    ¶ 16          Buschauer, accompanied by his sister, returned to the Hoffman Estates police station the
    following morning. He told Tencza and Zeman he would not speak with them without counsel
    present.
    ¶ 17          A few months after Hrisco’s death, the investigation went cold.
    ¶ 18                                          April 2013 Arrest
    ¶ 19          The South Barrington police department reopened the case in 2010. By this time, Buschauer
    and his son lived in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. In July 2011, during an “ongoing death
    investigation,” the department removed the whirlpool bathtub from the home.
    ¶ 20          On April 23, 2013, Haniszewski obtained an arrest warrant for Buschauer. The next
    morning, Haniszewski traveled to Walworth County, Wisconsin, and met the state’s attorney’s
    investigator, Bob Riordon. Haniszewski and Riordon located Buschauer at the local YMCA, where
    they knew Buschauer would be exercising. They introduced themselves and said they wanted to
    talk to him about Hrisco’s death. Buschauer said he “always wanted to find out what happened”
    and agreed to answer their questions. Buschauer voluntarily got into the back seat of Haniszewski’s
    car and rode unhandcuffed to the Walworth County Sheriff’s Office.
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    ¶ 21          Once there, Buschauer was brought to an interview room. Riordon read his Miranda rights
    from a preprinted form, and Buschauer said he understood his rights and signed a Miranda waiver.
    At this point, the arrest warrant against Buschauer had not been executed, but Haniszewski testified
    that he did not consider Buschauer free to leave.
    ¶ 22          Buschauer answered Haniszewski’s and Riordon’s questions for almost three hours. The
    interview was recorded. Buschauer told them about his tumultuous relationship with Hrisco and
    the issues between them. Buschauer admitted their arguments sometimes became violent, and he
    once got so angry he shook Hrisco and told her he could kill her. Buschauer also said it was possible
    he killed her without remembering it.
    ¶ 23          Around 11:17 a.m., Haniszewski and Riordon left Buschauer alone in the unlocked
    interview room. Buschauer was brought lunch and allowed to use the restroom. At 1:37 p.m.,
    Haniszewski and Riordon returned and, again, read his Miranda rights. This time, however, the
    conversation between Buschauer and the police lasted 13 minutes before Buschauer invoked his
    rights. He refused to continue without a lawyer. Haniszewski and Riordon immediately concluded
    the interview and left the room. Around 2 p.m., Detective Troy Pagenkopf officially executed the
    arrest warrant and placed Buschauer under arrest for Hrisco’s murder.
    ¶ 24                                            Pretrial Motions
    ¶ 25          In anticipation of trial, Buschauer moved to suppress three pieces of evidence: (i) statements
    he made to the Illinois State Police on March 6, 2000, (ii) the letters and other evidence seized from
    his home on March 6, 2000, and (iii) statements he made during the April 2013 police interview.
    The trial court granted his motion to suppress these statements and evidence but determined
    Buschauer’s statements from 2013 would be admitted. The State appealed the trial court’s ruling
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    regarding the statements and evidence from March 2000 as erroneous as a matter of law. We
    reversed the trial court’s ruling. Buschauer, 
    2016 IL App (1st) 142766
    .
    ¶ 26          Buschauer later moved to prevent the State from introducing “voice from the grave”
    statements from Hrisco. He claimed that statements Hrisco made to her friends about Buschauer
    and statements Hrisco’s friends made to police officers concerning his behavior before her death
    constituted inadmissible hearsay. In response, the State argued these statements established motive.
    The trial court admitted these statements at trial, but only for showing motive.
    ¶ 27                                            Trial Testimony
    ¶ 28          At trial, several medical experts and three of Hrisco’s friends testified. These witnesses
    established the nature of Hrisco and Buschauer’s relationship, the injuries Hrisco suffered the night
    she died, and how Buschauer was implicated in her death.
    ¶ 29          The State called forensic pathologist, Dr. Scott Denton; forensic pathologist, Dr. Stephen
    Cina; and medical examiner, Dr. Mary Case. Each doctor testified to the nature and extent of
    Hrisco’s injuries and the manner of death.
    ¶ 30          Dr. Denton conducted Hrisco’s autopsy on the day she died and originally listed her cause
    of death as “undetermined.” But in 2010, Dr. Denton reviewed police reports previously
    unavailable. Based on this information and his additional 10 years of experience, he believed
    Hrisco’s death a homicide. Dr. Denton said his examination revealed a healthy heart, thus ruling
    out a heart attack or cardiac arrhythmia. Also, Hrisco’s toxicology examination came back
    “completely negative,” demonstrating that she had no alcohol or drugs in her system.
    ¶ 31          During his external examination, Dr. Denton noticed injuries that belied an accidental
    drowning. He saw congestion, or dark red discoloration, on her upper chest. This indicated a
    compression prevented Hrisco’s blood flow, which would not occur in an accidental drowning. He
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    saw petechial hemorrhaging in her left eye consistent with pressure on her chest. In addition, he
    described 10 different abrasions on Hrisco’s body, including fresh injuries on her nose, chin, and
    other parts of her face and significant injuries on her knees. These abrasions indicated a hard surface
    had struck her at or near the time of death. Abrasions on the back of her left arm and across both
    knuckles suggested a struggle to avoid being forcibly held underwater.
    ¶ 32          Dr. Denton’s internal examination revealed a deep horizontal bruise, “about the size of a
    thumb,” on the left side of her neck. He described this bruise as recent, occurring near the time of
    death. This type of bruising suggested that someone pressed down on the back of Hrisco’s neck
    with their hands.
    ¶ 33          Dr. Cina, the chief medical examiner for Cook County in 2012, testified that, after reviewing
    the materials related to Hrisco’s death, he concluded Hrisco was a victim of homicide. He based
    his conclusion on the absence of natural disease; the negative toxicology screens; and her injuries,
    rigor, and lividity findings coinciding with being facedown in a bathtub. Accordingly, Dr. Cina
    updated Hrisco’s death certificate to reflect her official manner of death as homicide from having
    been “forcibly submerged in [a] bathtub.”
    ¶ 34          On rebuttal, the State called Dr. Case, who agreed with Drs. Denton and Cina on Hrisco’s
    manner of death. She testified that, based on the injuries, “[s]omeone ha[d] forcibly held her down.”
    Dr. Case dispelled the possibility that Hrisco could have fainted while in the bathtub, causing her
    to slip below the water and drown. She explained, if this were to happen, Hrisco’s natural
    preservation instincts would kick in and she would be aroused from her unconsciousness. Nor were
    the injuries consistent with the possibility of a seizure. Instead, Dr. Case explained that Hrisco’s
    injuries compared favorably with other forcible drownings she had seen. Dr. Case was unconcerned
    that Hrisco’s injuries had not been more extensive.
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    ¶ 35          The State called three longtime friends of Hrisco’s: Deborah Kram, Jodi Kindle, and Cheryl
    Kolweier. Each described their interactions with Buschauer and what Hrisco told them about her
    relationship with Buschauer in the months leading up to her death.
    ¶ 36          Kram testified that in October 1998, Hrisco told her about a fight she and Buschauer had
    over building their home. Hrisco said that, in the heat of the argument, Buschauer “threatened to
    kill her if she were to pursue” legal action against his cousin and put both his hands around her
    neck. Kram said Hrisco told her about the increasing strain on their relationship due to arguments
    over the house. Hrisco described Buschauer as a “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” who would suddenly
    become angry and unreasonable. Four days before her death, Hrisco told Kram she and Buschauer
    were continuing to have marital problems. Hrisco said Buschauer blamed her, and marriage
    counseling had made matters worse.
    ¶ 37          Jodi Kindle testified that she attended the same Bible study gatherings as Hrisco and
    Buschauer. During these gatherings, Hrisco often spoke about issues she and Buschauer were
    having over the construction of their house and that Buschauer would become “noticeably irritated,
    uncomfortable,” his face would turn red, and “[h]is eyes would bug out.” A week before Hrisco’s
    death, she told Kindle her relationship with Buschauer was “worse than ever,” “[s]he felt he hated
    her,” and “she was afraid” of him. After Hrisco’s death, Kindle attended her funeral and offered
    condolences to Buschauer. Kindle said he responded by smiling and saying, “there’s a lot of things
    I could do now that Cynthia is gone.”
    ¶ 38          Finally, Cheryl Kolweier testified that in the late summer or fall of 1999, Hrisco told her
    about a physical altercation with Buschauer. Hrisco seemed scared when telling how Buschauer
    took her by the shoulders, shook her, and threatened to kill her if she did not “back off talking to
    the cousin or putting pressure on the cousin about the house.” Hrisco told Kolweier that the look
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    on Buschauer’s face when he said these things scared her the most. Kolweier testified that she
    babysat Hrisco and Buschauer’s baby son while police interviewed Buschauer in March 2000.
    Buschauer called to check on the baby and, in the course of conversation, told her he did not know
    if he killed Hrisco in a “fit of rage or not. He just couldn’t remember.”
    ¶ 39          After the State rested, Buschauer called a pathologist who presented an alternative theory
    on Hrisco’s death. Dr. Christopher Milroy, director of the forensic pathology unit of the Eastern
    Ontario (Canada) Regional Forensic Pathology Unit, agreed with the State’s experts that Hrisco
    drowned but disagreed with the finding of homicide. Milroy said Hrisco could have fainted while
    she was in the bathtub, slipped under the water, inhaled water, and, as a result, suffered a seizure—
    which would explain her injuries. He did not believe sufficient evidence existed to show someone
    forcibly held Hrisco underwater due to the absence of more significant injuries. On cross-
    examination, however, Dr. Milroy admitted there was no evidence Hrisco suffered a seizure and
    denied speculating about how she died. He also conceded that Hrisco “certainly *** could have
    been” held facedown under the water and that the deep bruise on her neck could have been caused
    by pressure from fingers.
    ¶ 40          Buschauer called longtime friend, Heather Roy; his cousin’s wife, Maryann Antemann; and
    attorney Philip Maksymonko. Each testified about their knowledge of Hrisco and Buschauer’s
    troubled marriage.
    ¶ 41          Roy testified that she and her husband knew Buschauer and Hrisco for four years through a
    group bible study. Hrisco never spoke to her about marital issues, nor had Buschauer ever
    threatened or frightened her. And Hrisco never told her about issues over their South Barrington
    house. Roy and her husband remained friends with Buschauer after Hrisco’s death.
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    ¶ 42           Antemann testified that she married Buschauer’s cousin. Starting in January 1999, she and
    her husband and Hrisco and Buschauer tried to mediate the construction issues, but the mediation
    sessions came to naught.
    ¶ 43           Maksymonko testified he formerly represented Hrisco and Buschauer and helped them with
    business-related legal issues. Hrisco and Buschauer spoke to him about their dispute with
    Buschauer’s cousin. Hrisco never told Maksymonko that she was afraid of Buschauer or that he
    had threatened to kill or hurt her. Maksymonko conceded that he did not find it unusual for Hrisco
    to keep silent on marital relationship issues.
    ¶ 44           After the parties rested, the trial court acknowledged that the case presented much
    circumstantial evidence and, as a domestic situation, circumstantial evidence could properly be
    considered. Accordingly, the trial court found Buschauer guilty of first degree murder and
    sentenced him to 25 years in the Department of Corrections. Buschauer appeals his conviction and
    asks for a new trial.
    ¶ 45                                                 Analysis
    ¶ 46           Buschauer makes several arguments that the trial court erred by allowing the State to
    introduce the video of his interrogation on April 24, 2013. First, he claims the officers and
    prosecutors involved in his interrogation violated the Illinois Constitution’s due process clause (see
    Ill. Const. 1970, art. I, § 2) by (i) misrepresenting the nature of the interrogation as voluntary and
    (ii) failing to tell him they had a warrant for his arrest when they asked him to accompany them to
    the station. He also argues the officers’ tactics violated both his right against self-incrimination and
    right to counsel under both the United States and Illinois Constitutions. See U.S. Const., amends.
    V, VI; Ill. Const. 1970, art. I, §§ 8, 10. These arguments grow from the same root as Buschauer’s
    due process argument: the officers’ decision to withhold information that they had a warrant for his
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    arrest (i) undermined his ability to waive his Miranda rights knowingly and intelligently and
    (ii) frustrated his ability to retain counsel promptly.
    ¶ 47           The State responds that information about the arrest warrant issued for Buschauer at most
    “affected the wisdom” of invoking his Miranda rights, not his ability to waive them knowingly and
    intelligently. The State further argues that Buschauer failed to claim that he was in custody at the
    time of the videotaped statement, comparing the 2013 interrogation to this court’s previous finding
    that the interviews officers conducted in 2000 were not custodial. See Buschauer, 
    2016 IL App (1st) 142766
    , ¶ 36 (finding reasonable person would have felt free to leave under circumstances of
    interrogation). As to Buschauer’s right to counsel, the State claims the right did not attach by mere
    issuance of the arrest warrant but, even if it had, Buschauer’s Miranda waiver was still effective.
    Finally, the State argues the officers’ decision to keep hidden the information about the arrest
    warrant cannot violate Illinois’s due process clause because Buschauer had no right to the
    information in the first place.
    ¶ 48           The trial court properly denied Buschauer’s motion to suppress the video of the April 2013
    interrogation, and we will explain our reasoning in detail as it relates to each constitutional
    provision Buschauer invokes.
    ¶ 49                                               Due Process
    ¶ 50           Illinois courts are not bound to interpret the due process clause of our constitution (Ill.
    Const. 1970, art. I, § 2) coextensively with the due process clause of the United States Constitution.
    People v. McCauley, 
    163 Ill. 2d 414
    , 440-41 (1994). The heart of our constitution’s due process
    guarantee is “fundamental fairness.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.) 
    Id. at 441
    . So, our due
    process clause “essentially requires fairness, integrity, and honor in the operation of the criminal
    [legal] system, and in its treatment of the [person]’s cardinal constitutional protections.” (Internal
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    quotation marks omitted.) 
    Id.
     We embrace this lofty language, on which Buschauer chiefly relies.
    But the due process clause does not apply to these facts.
    ¶ 51          Buschauer focuses on one aspect of the 2013 interrogation that he believes rendered it
    unfair: the officers’ failure to mention that they had already secured a warrant for his arrest when
    they asked him to accompany them to the police station. But the narrowness of Buschauer’s claim
    defeats it because he had no right to the information about the warrant.
    ¶ 52          The key to our supreme court’s decision in McCauley was the defendant’s vested right to
    have an attorney present during an interrogation. See 
    id. at 444
     (“If a defendant is entitled to the
    benefit of an attorney’s assistance and presence during custodial interrogation and this right is
    guarded, certainly fundamental fairness requires that immediately available assistance and presence
    not be denied by police authorities.” (Emphases added.)). The court’s focus was the myriad ways
    the right to counsel had historically been protected in Illinois courts, through constitutional
    interpretation and statutes. 
    Id. at 441-43
    . To implicate due process, police conduct must “interfere
    with a suspect’s right” given by the constitution or statutory law. 
    Id. at 444
    . Many of the other cases
    Buschauer relies on confirm this principle. See People v. Stapinski, 
    2015 IL 118278
    , ¶ 52
    (substantive due process rights violated where “State breached the agreement *** entered into with
    defendant”); People v. Starks, 
    106 Ill. 2d 441
    , 452-53 (1985) (due process right to enforce
    nonprosecution agreement attached when agreement was fully executed between defendant and
    State); People v. Smith, 
    233 Ill. App. 3d 342
    , 351 (1992) (affirming dismissal of charges where
    State violated due process by promising defendant immunity and failing to make good on promise).
    For the officers’ conduct to implicate due process, Buschauer must have had a right to the
    information he claims the officers withheld.
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    ¶ 53          Buschauer, however, cites no source of law giving him a right to know the officers had a
    warrant for his arrest when they otherwise convinced him to accompany them to the police station
    voluntarily. Absent authority, we are left with the distinction Illinois courts have long drawn
    between information essential to a knowing waiver of constitutional rights and “a flow of
    information to help [a defendant] calibrate his self-interest in deciding whether to speak or stand
    by his rights.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.) See People v. Bernasco, 
    138 Ill. 2d 349
    , 359
    (1990). Knowing that officers had a warrant for his arrest would certainly have “affect[ed] *** the
    wisdom of [Buschauer’s] Miranda waiver” (internal quotation marks omitted) (see 
    id. at 359-60
    ),
    but we have found no case suggesting this knowledge is required to satisfy due process.
    ¶ 54          We are not unsympathetic to Buschauer’s claim and believe it unethical to lie to suspects to
    obtain information. Our General Assembly has banned similar deceptive practices in taking
    juvenile confessions. See Pub. Act 102-101, § 5 (eff. Jan. 1, 2022) (adding 705 ILCS 405/5-401.6).
    But absent a source of law vesting Buschauer with a right to the information he seeks, the due
    process clause of the Illinois Constitution is not a code of ethics for police or prosecutors. And,
    though we do not condone the officers’ conduct, where their lie by omission served to make the
    circumstances of Buschauer’s interrogation arguably less coercive, we cannot say their deceptive
    tactics were “oppressive, arbitrary, or unreasonable.”
    ¶ 55          To the extent questions of voluntariness remain, we now address them.
    ¶ 56                                    Self-Incrimination & Counsel
    ¶ 57          We address Buschauer’s claims about the protection against self-incrimination and the right
    to counsel together. They both rely on the same foundational premise: Buschauer did not have
    enough information to validly waive either right because officers never told him “that he had
    already been charged with first degree murder.” The State responds that Buschauer had enough
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    information and sophistication to validly waive both rights without knowing every detail about the
    progress of the officers’ investigation. We agree with the State that neither the United States
    Constitution nor current interpretations of the Illinois Constitution require officers to inform a
    defendant about an arrest warrant before giving Miranda warnings. Nothing in the record before
    us, therefore, renders involuntary Buschauer’s waiver of his right against self-incrimination or
    waiver of his right to counsel.
    ¶ 58          The United States and Illinois Constitutions protect defendants from compelled self-
    incrimination. U.S. Const., amend. V (“No person shall be *** compelled in any criminal case to
    be a witness against [him or her]self ***.”); Ill. Const. 1970, art. I, § 10 (“No person shall be
    compelled in a criminal case to give evidence against [him or her]self ***.”). Both constitutions
    similarly protect the right to counsel. U.S. Const., amend. VI (“In all criminal prosecutions, the
    accused shall enjoy the right *** to have the Assistance of Counsel for [his or her] defence.”); Ill.
    Const. 1970, art. I, § 8 (“In criminal prosecutions, the accused shall have the right to appear and
    defend *** by counsel ***.”).
    ¶ 59          Buschauer’s briefs repeatedly intertwine the constitutional provisions on which he relies.
    Though it is ultimately irrelevant to our conclusion, we find that disentangling them will be helpful.
    The United States Supreme Court, in Miranda, 
    384 U.S. at 467
    , set out to protect the fifth
    amendment privilege against self-incrimination “outside criminal court proceedings.” The Court’s
    main concern was protecting suspects from the psychologically coercive pressures of custodial
    interrogation. 
    Id. at 446-58
     (concluding by noting “intimate connection between the privilege
    against self-incrimination and police custodial questioning”). Included in the prophylactic rule
    Miranda adopted is the requirement that officers inform a suspect in a custodial interrogation that
    he or she has the right to counsel. 
    Id. at 444-45
    .
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    ¶ 60           The right to counsel embodied in the sixth amendment, however, protects different interests
    at different times. The sixth amendment right to counsel does not attach until “at or after the
    initiation of adversary judicial criminal proceedings—whether by way of formal charge,
    preliminary hearing, indictment, information, or arraignment.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.)
    McNeil v. Wisconsin, 
    501 U.S. 171
    , 175 (1991). Because the initiation of new criminal proceedings
    triggers the sixth amendment right to counsel, the United States Supreme Court has described the
    sixth amendment right as “offense specific.” 
    Id.
     This makes sense, so we are told, because of the
    sixth amendment’s goal—to protect a criminal defendant from the State at critical stages of an
    already-initiated criminal prosecution, once “the adverse positions of government and defendant
    have solidified.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.) 
    Id. at 177-78
    . Compare that to Miranda’s
    prophylactic protection of the right to counsel—it is aimed at a suspect’s more general interest in
    “deal[ing] with the police only through counsel.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.) 
    Id. at 178
    ; see
    also People v. Kidd, 
    147 Ill. 2d 510
    , 532 (1992) (adopting McNeil’s distinction between defendant’s
    invocation of sixth amendment right to counsel versus right to counsel protected by Miranda’s
    prophylactic rule for custodial interrogations).
    ¶ 61           The structure of the Illinois Constitution suggests a similar distinction. Though we have
    found no case holding as much, McCauley comes close. Article I, section 10, of the Illinois
    Constitution protects an accused’s right against self-incrimination, and the focus appears on
    custodial interrogations like the federal counterpart. See McCauley, 
    163 Ill. 2d at 421-22
    . By
    contrast, article I, section 8, of the Illinois Constitution protects a defendant’s right to counsel when
    “adversary judicial proceedings have been initiated.” 
    Id. at 447
    . This limitation dovetails with both
    interpretations of the coordinate sixth amendment and the text of the Illinois Constitution, which
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    includes the right to counsel under the heading “Rights After Indictment.” Ill. Const. 1970, art. I,
    § 8.
    ¶ 62           This distinction matters, at least theoretically. If issuing a complaint and securing an arrest
    warrant initiate the criminal prosecution, then Buschauer’s sixth amendment right to counsel (and
    his right to counsel under article I, section 8, of the Illinois Constitution) attached automatically for
    the offense of first degree murder. On the other hand, if the complaint and warrant did not initiate
    criminal proceedings, then his right to counsel would be protected by Miranda (and article I, section
    10, of the Illinois Constitution) and would not attach until a custodial interrogation.
    ¶ 63           While the philosophy of the differing origins of the right to counsel is interesting to ponder,
    the distinction ultimately evaporates here for one reason: officers gave Buschauer Miranda
    warnings. See Patterson v. Illinois, 
    487 U.S. 285
    , 292-93 (1988) (even where sixth amendment
    right to counsel had attached, defendant can validly waive right in response to receiving Miranda
    warnings, so long as waiver was otherwise valid); see also People v. Rudd, 
    2020 IL App (1st) 182037
    , ¶ 77 (“when a defendant is read his Miranda rights (which include the right to have counsel
    present during interrogation) and agrees to waive those rights, that typically serves to waive any
    sixth amendment right to counsel as well” (internal quotation marks omitted)).
    ¶ 64           In most cases where officers give Miranda warnings, the precise moment that fifth and sixth
    amendment protections attach will matter little in waiving those rights and speaking to police. For
    example, we can assume without deciding that Buschauer’s right against self-incrimination and
    right to counsel attached at the earliest possible moment—in the YMCA parking lot—because, at
    the end of the day, we must answer the question: Was Buschauer’s Miranda waiver valid? We
    conclude that it was.
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    ¶ 65          Any waiver of rights following Miranda warnings must be voluntary, knowing, and
    intelligent. People v. Soto, 
    2017 IL App (1st) 140893
    , ¶ 68. To be voluntary, the waiver must not
    be “the product of intimidation, coercion, or deception.” 
    Id.
     To be knowing, the waiver must be
    “made with a full awareness of the nature of the rights being waived and the resulting consequences
    of waiving those rights.” 
    Id.
     A suspect need not know “every possible consequence of a waiver”
    for us to accept the waiver as valid. People v. Braggs, 
    209 Ill. 2d 492
    , 515 (2003) (“defendant need
    not understand far-reaching legal and strategic effects of waiving his or her rights or appreciate
    how widely or deeply an interrogation may probe”). A Miranda waiver’s validity depends on each
    case’s circumstances. 
    Id.
     To guide us, we can look to factors like the defendant’s age, intelligence,
    background, mental capacity, education, and conduct. 
    Id.
    ¶ 66          Buschauer does not focus on these traditional factors, nor do we think he could. As the trial
    court found, Buschauer was 64 years old with no apparent cognitive difficulty. As a retired chemical
    engineer, he had a substantial education. We also know a lot about his conduct with police. He had
    been interviewed about his wife’s death in 2000 and invoked his Miranda rights. We find the State
    on solid ground when it argues that Buschauer “at least basically” understood the Miranda warnings
    and the consequences of waiver. So, the trial court’s factual findings on this score were not against
    the manifest weight of the evidence.
    ¶ 67          Buschauer focuses instead on the officers’ conduct. He argues that his Miranda waiver
    could not have been knowing and voluntary where he did not know the officers had an arrest
    warrant. He also emphasizes the warrant’s directive that he be brought before a judicial officer
    immediately after arrest. The State argues the officers were under no affirmative obligation to give
    Buschauer this information and, even if they were, their failure would not have impacted the
    knowing and voluntary nature of Buschauer’s Miranda waiver.
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    ¶ 68           We rejected an argument similar to Buschauer’s in Rudd, where officers had filed a
    complaint and received a warrant for the defendant’s arrest before asking him to voluntarily
    accompany them to an out-of-state police station for questioning. Rudd, 
    2020 IL App (1st) 182037
    ,
    ¶¶ 22-25. We held that knowledge about the existence of the unexecuted arrest warrant would not
    have affected the defendant’s “aware[ness] of the gravity of his situation,” based on the officers
    asking the defendant to come with them to a police station and reading the defendant the Miranda
    warnings. Id. ¶ 80. We reached this conclusion relying on the nature of the Miranda warnings,
    which advise a suspect of “ ‘the ultimate adverse consequence’ ” of having anything they say used
    against them at a potential future trial. Id. ¶ 79 (quoting Patterson, 
    487 U.S. at 293
    ). Whether a
    suspect knows about a warrant, the Miranda warnings convey the possibility of future prosecution.
    See id. ¶¶ 79-80.
    ¶ 69           Buschauer urges several factual differences between his interrogation and Rudd, but we find
    none legally significant. First, Buschauer points out that an assistant state’s attorney went with the
    officers to procure his arrest warrant, whereas the officers acted on their own in Rudd. We think
    this distinction slightly misreads Rudd. Although the assistant state’s attorney was not present
    during the warrant application to the judge, she had approved of and directed the officers to seek
    the arrest warrant. Id. ¶ 22. More importantly, the involvement of the state’s attorney’s office goes
    to the question of when the adversarial process against Buschauer was initiated (an issue we have
    assumed in Buschauer’s favor), not whether his Miranda waiver was knowing and voluntary. See
    id. ¶ 71.
    ¶ 70           In addition, Buschauer asks us to distinguish Rudd because officers told the defendant he
    was a murder suspect during the interview. Id. ¶ 23. We do not think this is a meaningful distinction
    because Buschauer knew the officers wanted to know about his wife’s death. We see no factual
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    difference between the interrogation in Rudd and Buschauer’s interrogation that would convince
    us to disregard Rudd.
    ¶ 71          Alternatively, Buschauer asks us to conclude we got the law wrong in Rudd, and here we
    have some sympathy. Under its own state constitution, the New Jersey Supreme Court has
    concluded that “failure to inform a suspect that a criminal complaint or arrest warrant has been filed
    or issued deprives that person of information indispensable to a knowing and intelligent waiver of
    rights.” State v. A.G.D., 
    835 A.2d 291
    , 298 (N.J. 2003). The court found the officers’ failure to
    inform the defendant of the criminal complaint and arrest warrant required suppression of the
    defendant’s Mirandized statement. Id. at 297-98.
    ¶ 72          The reasoning of the New Jersey Supreme Court has some intuitive appeal, but Buschauer
    has not given us enough on which to anchor an extension of our own constitution in the same way.
    We acknowledge, of course, that we are a “limited lockstep” jurisdiction. People v. Caballes, 
    221 Ill. 2d 282
    , 309-10 (2006). This means we interpret provisions of the Illinois Constitution
    consistently with federal interpretations of analogous provisions of the United States Constitution
    unless the text, “state tradition and values,” or “long-standing state case precedent,” indicate the
    drafters of our constitution intended a more expansive interpretation. 
    Id. at 314
    . Aside from brief
    mentions of the relevant provisions of the Illinois Constitution, Buschauer makes no persuasive
    argument that we should interpret them more expansively than their federal counterparts. See
    A.G.D., 835 A.2d at 297-98 (describing common-law tradition of protecting against self-
    incrimination in New Jersey and the New Jersey Supreme Court’s conclusion that its privilege
    provides greater protection than United States Constitution).
    ¶ 73          For now, we adhere to Rudd and find that an officer’s failure to inform a suspect that they
    have a warrant for his arrest does not defeat the validity of an otherwise proper Miranda waiver.
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    No one should read our conclusion to foreclose, in an appropriate case with fully developed
    arguments, that the Illinois Constitution (like its New Jersey counterpart) forbids the kind of
    deception the officers employed against Buschauer.
    ¶ 74                                   Hearsay and Confrontation Claims
    ¶ 75          Buschauer attacks the admission of testimony from Kram, Kindle, and Kolweier about
    statements Hrisco made to them before her death. The statements explain the tension in the marriage
    and the threatening acts Buschauer had committed against her. Buschauer offers two theories:
    (i) the statements were hearsay and not admitted for a proper nonhearsay purpose and (ii) admitting
    the statements violated his rights under the United States and Illinois Constitutions to confront
    witnesses against him. The State responds that the trial court properly admitted the statements for
    the nonhearsay purpose of proving motive and, because Hrisco did not make the statements to law
    enforcement, they were nontestimonial and, so, admitting them did not violate Buschauer’s
    confrontation rights. We agree with the State.
    ¶ 76                                           Hearsay Testimony
    ¶ 77          Buschauer argues the testimony given by Hrisco’s friends invoked impermissible “voice
    from the grave” hearsay and admitting the statements at trial amounted to prejudicial error. The
    State responds that it offered the statements to prove motive, not their truth, so they were not
    hearsay. We agree that motive supplies a well-established, nonhearsay purpose to admit out-of-
    court statements that would otherwise be hearsay. Hence, the trial court’s evidentiary ruling was
    not an abuse of discretion.
    ¶ 78          Hearsay denotes a statement made by an out-of-court declarant that is offered to prove the
    truth of the matter asserted. Ill. R. Evid. 801(c) (eff. Oct. 15, 2015). The parties’ dispute focuses on
    the latter half of the definition—whether the witnesses’ testimony about Hrisco’s statements were
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    offered for the truth. The parties essentially talk past each other, offering a veritable jumble of
    theories on which to justify either admitting or excluding the testimony.
    ¶ 79          Buschauer relies largely on cases that discuss and apply Illinois Rule of Evidence 803(3)
    (eff. Mar. 24, 2022), dealing with the then-existing-state-of-mind hearsay exception. Rule 803(3)
    does not bar testimony about the declarant’s out-of-court statements when they convey “the
    declarant’s then existing state of mind *** such as *** motive.” Id.; see also People v. Floyd, 
    103 Ill. 2d 541
     (1984); People v. Munoz, 
    398 Ill. App. 3d 455
     (2010); People v. French, 
    2017 IL App (1st) 141815
    . But, we invoke the exception in Rule 803(3) when the declarant’s state of mind is at
    issue. See Floyd, 103 Ill. 3d at 546-57; Munoz, 398 Ill. App. 3d at 480-82; French, 
    2017 IL App (1st) 141815
    , ¶ 35. Applying Rule 803(3) makes little sense because the State introduced evidence
    of Hrisco’s statements to prove Buschauer’s state of mind (motive), not Hrisco’s.
    ¶ 80          The State, for its part, seeks a different avenue for admitting motive testimony, relying on
    cases that have allowed hearsay testimony as part of the proof of other crimes to establish the
    defendant’s motive. See People v. Lovejoy, 
    235 Ill. 2d 97
    , 135-38 (2009); see also Ill. R. Evid.
    404(b) (eff. Jan. 1, 2011) (“[e]vidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts” “may also be admissible
    for other purposes, such as proof of motive”). But most of the disputed statements did not involve
    any previous crimes or bad acts by Buschauer.
    ¶ 81          The State is on solid footing, however, with cases like People v. Moss, 
    205 Ill. 2d 139
    (2001), and People v. Coleman, 
    2014 IL App (5th) 110274
    , which engaged in the far simpler factual
    analysis of whether the statements had been offered to prove motive or for their truth. In Moss, our
    supreme court approved the use of a deceased victim’s out-of-court statements about a sexual
    assault the defendant committed against her before he killed her. Moss, 
    205 Ill. 2d at 144-46, 160
    .
    The court held that the victim’s statements need not have conveyed what “actually occurred”
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    because, whether true or not, the details led to criminal charges against the defendant and
    instructions to his family to “ ‘get rid of’ ” the victim. 
    Id. at 160
    .
    ¶ 82           In Coleman, the court found no error in admitting testimony from a murder victim’s friends
    that the victim had told them her husband “wanted a divorce because he believed she and the boys
    were holding him back from realizing his full potential, but he did not want to jeopardize his job
    by filing for divorce.” Coleman, 
    2014 IL App (5th) 110274
    , ¶ 139. The court concluded that the
    statements were properly admitted for purposes of proving motive. 
    Id.
     As we read Coleman, the
    defendant’s beliefs about the reasons he wanted but could not obtain a divorce need not have been
    factually accurate—the defendant need only have thought them true. So the victim’s out-of-court
    statements about the defendant’s beliefs were not offered for the truth they assert.
    ¶ 83           When it comes to many of the statements Hrisco made to her friends before she died, we
    confront a tension, bordering on contradiction, infecting the theory of out-of-court statements about
    motive being nonhearsay. We find it hard to comprehend how an out-of-court statement about a
    fact (as opposed to an individual’s perceptions, as in Moss and Coleman) could be relevant to prove
    a defendant’s motive unless that same statement was substantively true. If the factual matter
    asserted in the disputed statement is not true, then it would have no tendency to prove motive and
    be irrelevant. Munoz, 398 Ill. App. 3d at 482 (“use of [the victim’s out of court statements] to
    establish the defendant’s motive would be a use to establish the truth of their content”).
    ¶ 84           For our purposes, then, we break Hrisco’s out-of-court statements into three basic
    categories: (i) statements about the disputes underlying her and Buschauer’s marital problems,
    (ii) statements describing the state of her marriage, and (iii) statements about how Buschauer
    behaved or spoke to her. We conclude statements in the first category would not be offered for their
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    truth, statements in the second category would be, and statements in the third category could be
    interpreted either way. We provide examples of each to illuminate.
    ¶ 85           As to the first category, Hrisco made statements to her friends about the quality of work
    Buschauer’s cousin did in building their house. For instance, Hrisco said that (i) Buschauer’s cousin
    overcharged them for the cost of the home by a substantial sum and (ii) during an electrical storm,
    the power went out and the water in the hot tub would not get hot enough. These statements, and
    statements similar to them, need not be factually true to support the State’s theory of motive. All
    that matters is whether Hrisco perceived problems with the craftsmanship of the home sufficient to
    lead to confrontation and ensuing marital strife. So these types of underlying fact-based statements
    are not offered for their truth.
    ¶ 86           This leads us to the second category. Hrisco described to all three friends the state of her
    marriage at various times. For example, Hrisco said that (i) she felt her marriage was worse than
    ever and she and Buschauer weren’t living as husband and wife, (ii) the two would never talk while
    at home, and (iii) marital counseling was unsuccessful and Buschauer would often act more distant
    or angry after counseling sessions. These statements could not prove Buschauer’s motive to kill
    unless substantively true. If Hrisco were available for cross-examination and the trier of fact
    disbelieved her characterizations of the couples’ marriage, the trier of fact could disbelieve that
    Buschauer in fact had a motive to kill her. Put another way, if the couple were not actually
    experiencing marital strife, the State’s theory of Buschauer’s motive falls apart—the statements are
    offered for their truth, even though the truth they convey is Buschauer’s motive to kill. The trial
    court erred in admitting these type of statements about the qualitative state of the marriage.
    ¶ 87           We arrive then, at the third category: statements about Buschauer’s actions or words toward
    Hrisco. For example, Hrisco told her friends that Buschauer was physically abusive and told her
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    that, if she did not stop pressuring his cousin, he would kill her and then he shook her by the
    shoulders. These statements appear offered for their truth to prove motive because if Buschauer did
    not actually say or do them, it is less likely that he had a motive to kill. Yet the relevance of
    Buschauer’s threats to motive does not depend on whether he actually intended to kill her when he
    made the threats. There is a reasonable interpretation of these type of statements, and the trial court
    would not have had to consider their truth for them to be relevant to motive. This means, then, that
    the trial court did not abuse its discretion in admitting this category.
    ¶ 88          The trial court’s admission of hearsay testimony (here, the second category of statements)
    does not require reversal in every case. People v. Moore, 
    264 Ill. App. 3d 901
    , 911 (1994). We need
    not reverse if there is no reasonable probability that the trier of fact would have acquitted had the
    hearsay been excluded. 
    Id.
     We agree with the State that much of the motive evidence had analogs
    in statements made by Buschauer. For example, in a letter to Hrisco, Buschauer recited almost the
    exact threat Hrisco claimed he made: “If we cannot resolve our conflict in a constructive manner
    then divorce is better than assault or murder.” Buschauer also made statements to Hrisco’s friends,
    implying after her death that he had killed her. He told one of them that “there’s a lot of things [he]
    could do now that [Hrisco] is gone” and that “he didn’t know if he did it in a fit of rage or not.” We
    conclude sufficient independent circumstantial evidence exists of Buschauer’s motive to kill Hrisco
    and many of Hrisco’s statements about the qualitative state of her marriage were self-evident from
    the nonhearsay evidence. All in all, evidentiary error, if any, did not warrant reversal.
    ¶ 89                                          Confrontation Clause
    ¶ 90          Buschauer also argues Hrisco’s statements to her friends, admitted through her friends’
    testimony, violated the confrontation clause. See U.S. Const., amend. VI (“In all criminal
    prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right *** to be confronted with the witnesses against him
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    ***.”). The threshold question in determining whether out-of-court statements violate the
    confrontation clause is whether the statements are testimonial. See People v. Hood, 
    2016 IL 118581
    , ¶ 23 (discussing Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
     (2004)). The State disputes this
    threshold point and argues Hrisco’s statements were not testimonial because they were not made
    with a future prosecution in mind.
    ¶ 91          Neither the United States Supreme Court nor the Illinois Supreme Court has set the outer
    boundary for the type of out-of-court statements that can be testimonial. Generally, however, there
    are three quintessential categories: (i) in-court testimony or its functional equivalent that took place
    outside the present proceedings (affidavits, previous testimony given without cross-examination,
    etc.); (ii) formalized extrajudicial statements (depositions, confessions); and (iii) statements made
    “ ‘under circumstances which would lead an objective witness reasonably to believe that the
    statement would be available for use at a later trial.’ ” People v. Cleary, 
    2013 IL App (3d) 110610
    ,
    ¶ 41 (quoting Crawford, 
    541 U.S. at 52
    ). We are concerned just with the third category and find
    Cleary provides substantial guidance.
    ¶ 92          In Cleary, a murder victim’s daughter testified that the victim told her that she was thinking
    about divorcing the defendant. Id. ¶ 8. The victim told her daughter to watch over her other two
    children in case “ ‘something bad was going to happen to her.’ ” Id. In addition, the victim told a
    friend that her marriage with the defendant was “ ‘rocky,’ ” and the defendant had threatened to
    kill her if she left him. Id. ¶ 9. The victim told her sister similar things, saying she wanted to leave
    her marriage but that she would “never make it out alive,” and the defendant had said “he would
    kill her and burn the house down.” Id. ¶ 10. The victim made similar statements to two other friends,
    telling one of them that the defendant had “ ‘hurt her before’ ” and both that the defendant had
    threatened to kill her before he would ever “ ‘let her’ ” out of the marriage. Id. ¶¶ 11-12.
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    ¶ 93           Cleary, relying on People v. Stechly, 
    225 Ill. 2d 246
     (2007), sets out the test for testimonial
    statements: (i) whether the statement was made in a solemn fashion (e.g., under oath or after
    Miranda warnings) and (ii) whether the statement was intended to establish a particular fact for use
    in a future criminal prosecution. Cleary, 
    2013 IL App (3d) 110610
    , ¶¶ 47-48 (discussing Stechly in
    great detail). Consistent with Cleary’s discussion of Stechly, the United States Supreme Court’s
    decision in Ohio v. Clark, 
    576 U.S. 237
     (2015), recognized both the relative formality of the
    circumstances when the statement was made (id. at 245) and the statement’s purpose (id. at 245-
    46) as factors to consider in determining whether a statement is testimonial.
    ¶ 94           Applying the Stechly test, the court in Cleary determined the victim’s statements to her
    children and friends were not testimonial. First, the victim did not make her statements in a solemn
    way—she spoke to her children and friends, and the statements were not memorialized or sworn.
    Cleary, 
    2013 IL App (3d) 110610
    , ¶ 58. The court also noted that the victim did not make her
    statements intending to prove a particular fact at a hypothetical future prosecution of the defendant.
    Id. ¶ 57. The court imagined several other purposes for the victim’s statements from explaining
    why she remained in her relationship, sharing her feelings, or crying for help. Id. Cleary’s analysis
    grafts almost perfectly onto Hrisco’s statements. Hrisco’s statements were of the same type—
    explaining past abuses and present fears. She also made her statements to a similar group of
    people—friends and acquaintances. Nothing indicates that Hrisco intended her statements for future
    prosecution of her murder or that she took steps to solemnify her statements in sworn testimony or
    to the police.
    ¶ 95           The Fourth District has adopted a per se rule that, without government involvement in
    eliciting or receiving, the statement will never be testimonial. People v. Richter, 
    2012 IL App (4th) 101025
    , ¶ 135. The Third District declined to adopt the same per se rule for a well-explained set of
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    reasons we need not repeat. See Cleary, 
    2013 IL App (3d) 110610
    , ¶¶ 64-67. The State has cited
    Richter but has not expressly asked us to adopt its per se rule. We see no need to take a firm
    position, though we surmise the United States Supreme Court’s decision in Clark calls Richter’s
    per se rule into doubt. See Clark, 576 U.S. at 246 (“Because at least some statements to individuals
    who are not law enforcement officers could conceivably raise confrontation concerns, we decline
    to adopt a categorical rule excluding them from the Sixth Amendment’s reach.”). For our purposes,
    we find Cleary’s reasoning persuasive and applicable to Hrisco’s statements.
    ¶ 96          We conclude that Hrisco’s statements to her friends were not testimonial and, thus, did not
    implicate the sixth amendment’s confrontation clause. Accordingly, the trial court committed no
    constitutional error in admitting them.
    ¶ 97          Affirmed.
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    People v. Buschauer, 
    2022 IL App (1st) 192472
    Decision Under Review:    Appeal from the Circuit Court of Cook County, No. 13-CR-
    9408; the Hon. Joseph Michael Cataldo, Judge, presiding.
    Attorneys                 Allan A. Ackerman, of Chicago, for appellant.
    for
    Appellant:
    Attorneys                 Kimberly M. Foxx, State’s Attorney, of Chicago (Alan J.
    for                       Spellberg and Daniel Piwowarczyk, Assistant State’s Attorneys,
    Appellee:                 of counsel), for the People.
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