People v. Horman , 431 Ill. Dec. 798 ( 2018 )


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    2018 IL App (3d) 160423
    Opinion filed December 19, 2018
    _____________________________________________________________________________
    IN THE
    APPELLATE COURT OF ILLINOIS
    THIRD DISTRICT
    2018
    THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF                       )       Appeal from the Circuit Court
    ILLINOIS,                                        )       of the 13th Judicial Circuit,
    )       La Salle County, Illinois,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                       )
    )       Appeal No. 3-16-0423
    v. 	                                      )       Circuit No. 15-CF-149
    )
    WILLIAM B. HORMAN,                               )       Honorable
    )       H. Chris Ryan Jr.
    Defendant-Appellant.                      )       Judge, Presiding.
    _____________________________________________________________________________
    JUSTICE LYTTON delivered the judgment of the court, with opinion.
    Justices Schmidt and Wright concurred in the judgment and opinion.
    _____________________________________________________________________________
    OPINION
    ¶1          Defendant, William B. Horman, appeals his convictions for first degree murder and
    concealment of a homicidal death, arguing (1) that defense counsel was ineffective for failing to
    file a motion for reconsideration of its pretrial order granting the State a continuance and a
    motion to dismiss on speedy trial grounds and (2) that the circuit court should have conducted a
    preliminary Krankel inquiry into defendant’s pro se posttrial allegations of ineffective assistance
    of counsel. We affirm and remand.
    ¶2                                          I. BACKGROUND
    ¶3          Defendant was charged with first degree murder (720 ILCS 5/9-1(a)(1) (West 2014)) and
    concealment of a homicidal death (id. § 9-3.4(a)). On August 10, 2015, the State moved for a
    continuance for a trial date outside of the 120-day statutory speedy trial period in order to
    perform DNA testing. The State had previously moved for a continuance within the speedy trial
    window. The written motion was substantial in length and alleged that the crime scene
    processing took an extended period of time, since the evidence needed to be recovered from both
    the burn pile where the bones had been burned and the Fox River where the burned bones had
    been dumped. The bone fragments found then had to be identified as human bones before they
    could be sent to the laboratory. The motion further alleged that Illinois State Police forensic
    scientist Kelly Krajnik found the bone fragments to be in very poor condition. Due to their
    condition, she was not able to clean the bones as she normally would. One bone fragment was
    insufficient for DNA testing, and another had only resulted in a partial profile that did not match
    the deceased. She believed there was “some likelihood” that the partial DNA profile was due to a
    contaminant. Krajnik had recommended “that special mitochondrial DNA testing be performed
    on the bones in order to insure an accurate and verifiable DNA result.” Krajnik’s affidavit further
    stated that “in [her] opinion there may be a contaminant involved.” She further averred, “I
    believe that mitochondrial DNA testing is necessary in order to get a complete analysis of the
    DNA in this case.” The Illinois State Police did not have the capability of providing such testing.
    The State contacted the three laboratories that were equipped to perform the testing. None of
    them could perform the testing within the statutory speedy trial deadline, but the State chose the
    laboratory that could perform the testing in the most expedited time frame. The motion further
    stated, “This testing may establish that the bones are from the person of Robert Dowd.” Defense
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    counsel objected to the motion, arguing that the motion was lacking and that defendant wanted
    his trial to begin as soon as possible. The court granted the motion, and set the trial for
    September 28, 2015, outside the 120-day speedy trial time frame.
    ¶4          On September 25, defendant waived his speedy trial right and moved for a continuance,
    stating, “We have just received some new information regarding the co-defendant, as well as
    we’re still awaiting the results from our expert on our DNA tests.” The trial was then set for
    November 16. Defendant twice again moved for a continuance because their expert asked for
    additional time. The trial was not held until February 29, 2016.
    ¶5          Defendant worked for Dowd at Rob’s Washouts (Washouts) in Ottawa. Many witnesses
    testified that defendant was angry at Dowd for not making him a partner in his business and that
    defendant had stated he wanted to hurt or kill Dowd. On April 15, 2015, one of Dowd’s friends
    had gone to Dowd’s property and saw a smoldering fire in a burn pile, but could not find Dowd.
    The sheriff’s office did a well-being check, but could not locate him. Another friend went to his
    house later that evening, saw a small fire burning, and saw Dowd’s Ford Bronco, but did not see
    Dowd. The friend returned the following morning and saw defendant and Jonathan Beckman
    cleaning up. The fire had been raked up. Defendant said he had not seen Dowd. Another friend
    saw Dowd’s Bronco at Washouts and started yelling for Dowd. Defendant was at Washouts and
    told the friend that Dowd left to do his taxes, meet some guys, and then go to Missouri.
    Defendant appeared nervous, and there were six garbage bags by the door.
    ¶6          Jonathan Beckman testified that on April 14 after 9 p.m., defendant called to tell him that
    he was upset with Dowd. Defendant then told Beckman that he was coming to pick him up.
    When defendant picked up Beckman, defendant said he was going to kill Dowd that night. They
    went to Washouts around 9:30 p.m. Beckman entered Washouts and saw Dowd asleep on a cot.
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    He then told defendant that Dowd was asleep. Defendant grabbed a homemade wooden club
    from his truck. Defendant told Beckman that he had a bad arm and asked Beckman to “go in
    there and do it.” Beckman refused, saying he did not have any problems with Dowd. Defendant
    then told Beckman to open the sliding glass door to the office so he could enter. Beckman
    opened the door and defendant entered Dowd’s office. Beckman heard 10 to 15 thuds. He did not
    look into the office. Defendant then yelled to Beckman to grab a tarp and lay it on the floor.
    Defendant grabbed Dowd’s legs and dragged him onto the tarp. Defendant then hit Dowd three
    times in the back of the head with the wooden club. Beckman saw “blood coming out from
    behind [Dowd’s] ear.” Beckman helped pull the tarp over Dowd, but defendant loaded the body
    into defendant’s truck by himself. They drove to Dowd’s trailer, and defendant dragged Dowd’s
    body onto a burn pile, poured oil onto it, and lit it on fire. Defendant then placed wooden pallets
    and the wooden club on top of the burning body. Around 3 a.m., defendant found a bucket and
    lined it with aluminum foil. He then used a wooden spoon to crush the burned bone fragments
    and scoop them into the bucket. The Fox River was approximately 30 to 40 yards away from the
    burn pile. They walked to the river with the bucket, and Beckman acted as a lookout while
    defendant threw the remains into the river. They repeated this about five times. They went to
    another part of the river and dumped the bucket approximately 15 times. They then returned to
    clean up Washouts, and Beckman drove Dowd’s Bronco back to his trailer. They later left
    Dowd’s Bronco with someone in the Harvey area. Beckman had a deal with the State wherein he
    would plead guilty to concealment of a homicidal death and receive five years in the Department
    of Corrections in exchange for testifying against defendant.
    ¶7          Defendant was interviewed twice by investigators. The first time he was interviewed, he
    was not a suspect, and he did not make any incriminating statements. The second time he
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    admitted being with Beckman at Washouts at the time of Dowd’s death. He said that Dowd hit
    his head and quit moving. He and Beckman put Dowd’s body in a tarp, burned it, and then threw
    the remains in the river. They abandoned Dowd’s Bronco in the vicinity of Morris.
    ¶8          Two individuals testified that defendant and another man came to their home in Harvey
    with the Bronco. Defendant told one of them they were better off not knowing why defendant
    did not have the title to it. The next day, one of the individuals drove the Bronco to “a place that
    does business with cars.” Several days later, officers from the La Salle County Sheriff’s
    Department came to speak with him, and he took them to the location of the Bronco.
    ¶9          Blood was recovered at Washouts, and it was determined to be Dowd’s. Bone fragments
    were discovered in the burn pile and the Fox River, but they were severely burned and very
    fragmented. An expert determined that the fragments came from the same adult individual.
    Krajnik said she had never seen bones so badly damaged. She was not able to clean the bones.
    She was skeptical that she could obtain any DNA from the bones. She obtained no DNA from
    the bones collected from the burn pile. She obtained a small amount of DNA from a fragment
    collected from the river, but the profile obtained did not match Dowd, defendant, or Beckman.
    She thought the result might have been from a contaminant. Krajnik recommended the
    mitochondrial DNA testing, stating: “I wanted to find out if the results that I had could be
    confirmed by mitochondrial testing. And what I mean by confirmed is I wanted to know if they
    type the same bone samples I typed, will they get a result.” She further stated,
    “I was skeptical that I would get anything to begin with just because of their
    condition. And because I did get a result and because it wasn’t what I expected to
    get, I was fairly certain it had to have been a contaminant along the way. I just
    didn’t know where it would be from.”
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    The mitochondrial DNA expert was not able to obtain any DNA results.
    ¶ 10            Defendant did not present any evidence. After both parties rested, defendant stated to the
    court:
    “I’ve been misinformed before, during my trial that I would be found guilty at
    trial. I had asked my lawyers to question witnesses and evidence at cross-
    examination and [received] no response. I don’t believe I got a fair
    misrepresentation [sic] because they had ill intentions from the get-go to send me
    to prison for something I didn’t do. I’ve asked them repeatedly to question
    witnesses on and off the stand to show my innocence. *** [T]he witnesses were
    Mike Diaz, Bob—Barbie Fuller, Rob Douglas Murray and Donnie Thompson.”
    The public defender stated:
    “First of all, as far as the witnesses go, we’ve interviewed those people. Most of
    them. I think one’s a new name that he never told us before. They’re absolutely of
    no help to us whatsoever. In fact, some of them would have been extremely
    helpful to the State.
    As far as being misinformed, on Monday I went down and told him
    exactly what every witness was going to say and what I thought the effect would
    be upon the case. Explained it to him thoroughly.”
    Based on what was presented, the court said it could not “find anything which shows an
    incompetency or a lack of presentation or preparation in the matter.” Defendant then said he
    wanted to testify, so the court reopened the proofs. Defendant stated that he had nothing to do
    with Dowd’s disappearance. He said he did not hit or hurt Dowd. He had lied to the investigators
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    to tell them what they wanted to hear. He was “stoned, intoxicated, and possibly drugged” during
    the interview, which he did not remember. The jury found defendant guilty.
    ¶ 11          Prior to sentencing, defendant sent four letters to the circuit court. The first letter stated
    there was “ineffective assistance” where his counsel (1) labored under an actual conflict of
    interest, (2) failed to present expert testimony, (3) did not check for fingerprints, and (4) did not
    test his hair or nails for drugs. The second letter asked for a new trial because defense counsel
    (1) failed to present expert testimony concerning footprints, hair, and DNA evidence; (2) never
    asked “critical and crucial” questions of the expert witnesses; (3) never asked about a note left by
    “Grumpee”; and (4) did not impeach witnesses. The third letter said defense counsel should have
    questioned more people, tested for prints, and checked his medical history to see that he was
    limited on the amount of weight he could carry. The fourth letter stated that counsel violated his
    sixth amendment right by failing to obtain witnesses in his favor.
    ¶ 12          At the sentencing hearing, the court told defendant it had read his letters. However, the
    court did not discuss or inquire about the allegations contained therein. Defendant was sentenced
    to 35 years’ imprisonment for first degree murder and 5 years’ imprisonment for concealment of
    a homicidal death. Defendant sent a fifth letter to the court after sentencing, again stating that his
    “VI amendment was violated-[his] right to counsel” for failure to obtain witnesses. He said
    counsel was incompetent and did not explain things to him. The record does not show that the
    contentions in the letter were ever discussed.
    ¶ 13                                             II. ANALYSIS
    ¶ 14          On appeal, defendant contends that (1) defense counsel was ineffective for failing to
    move the circuit court for reconsideration of its pretrial order granting the State a continuance
    beyond the 120-day speedy trial period to obtain additional DNA testing and failing to file a
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    motion to dismiss on speedy trial grounds and (2) the court erred in failing to hold a preliminary
    Krankel inquiry into the ineffective assistance claims raised in the letters he sent the court. First,
    we find that defendant has failed to show that defense counsel’s performance was deficient or
    that he was prejudiced by the failure to move for reconsideration and dismissal, as Krajnik’s trial
    testimony was similar to her affidavit and the mitochondrial DNA testing was material. Second,
    we find that the court should have held a preliminary Krankel hearing to address defendant’s
    contentions of ineffective assistance of counsel.
    ¶ 15                                          A. Ineffective Assistance
    ¶ 16           Defendant first contends that counsel was ineffective for failing to move to dismiss the
    case on statutory speedy trial grounds. “In Illinois, a defendant has *** a statutory right to a
    speedy trial.” People v. Cordell, 
    223 Ill. 2d 380
    , 385 (2006). This right is contained in section
    103-5(a) of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 (Code), which states, “Every person in
    custody in this State for an alleged offense shall be tried by the court having jurisdiction within
    120 days from the date he or she was taken into custody unless delay is occasioned by the
    defendant ***.” 725 ILCS 5/103-5(a) (West 2014). However, section 103-5(c) of the Code
    states, in pertinent part, “If the court determines that the State has exercised without success due
    diligence to obtain” the “results of DNA testing that is material to the case and that there are
    reasonable grounds to believe that such results may be obtained at a later day, the court may
    continue the cause on application of the State for not more than an additional 120 days.” 
    Id. § 103-5(c).
    Stated another way, in order for the State to receive a continuance outside of the
    statutory 120-day speedy trial guarantee for DNA testing, the State has to show that (1) it
    exercised due diligence to obtain DNA results, (2) the DNA results are material to the case, and
    (3) the results can be obtained at a later date. 
    Id. 8 ¶
    17          Defendant does not challenge that the State exercised due diligence in obtaining the
    mitochondrial DNA results or that the results could be obtained at a later date. Instead, defendant
    contends that Krajnik’s testimony at trial called into question the materiality of the mitochondrial
    DNA results and, therefore, defense counsel was ineffective for failing to move to reconsider the
    continuance and to dismiss the case. Defendant contends that Krajnik’s testimony at trial
    “painted an entirely different picture” than the State’s motion for continuance and Krajnik’s
    affidavit attached to such motion. Defendant states:
    “Krajnik’s trial testimony revealed that the trial court continued [defendant’s] trial
    beyond the 120-day speedy-trial period on the basis of misinformation and
    material omissions in the State’s motion to continue and Krajnik’s supporting
    affidavit. The motion and affidavit mischaracterized the nature of Krajnik’s test
    results and the reason why she recommended mitochondrial DNA testing. The
    motion also presented a false impression that further DNA testing could establish
    that the bones were from Dowd—something that Krajnik never corroborated and
    that her trial testimony refuted.”
    Defendant points to the fact that the State’s motion said there was “some likelihood” that the
    partial DNA result was from a contaminant, while Krajnik’s testimony stated she was “fairly
    certain” it was a contaminant. Defendant states that Krajnik “merely wanted mitochondrial DNA
    testing to confirm her result” and “a second round of DNA testing, albeit more sensitive testing,
    yielding either a DNA profile not consistent with the victim, [defendant], or Beckman *** or no
    DNA profile at all *** would not have been material to the case.”
    ¶ 18          Our supreme court has stated:
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    “To prevail on a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel, a defendant
    must demonstrate that counsel’s performance was deficient and that the deficient
    performance prejudiced the defendant. [People v.] Domagala, 
    2013 IL 113688
    ,
    ¶ 36 (citing Strickland [v. 
    Washington], 466 U.S. at 687
    ). Specifically, a
    defendant must show that counsel’s performance was objectively unreasonable
    under prevailing professional norms and that there is a reasonable probability that,
    but for counsel’s unprofessional errors, the result of the proceeding would have
    been different. Domagala, 
    2013 IL 113688
    , ¶ 36 (quoting 
    Strickland, 466 U.S. at 694
    ). A reasonable probability is defined as a probability sufficient to undermine
    confidence in the outcome. People v. Simpson, 
    2015 IL 116512
    , ¶ 35 (quoting
    
    Strickland, 466 U.S. at 694
    ). A defendant must satisfy both prongs of the
    Strickland test and a failure to satisfy any one of the prongs precludes a finding of
    ineffectiveness. Simpson, 
    2015 IL 116512
    , ¶ 35 (citing People v. Patterson, 
    192 Ill. 2d 93
    , 107 (2000)).” (Internal quotation marks omitted.) People v. Veach,
    
    2017 IL 120649
    , ¶ 30.
    ¶ 19          We find that counsel’s failure to move for reconsideration or dismissal did not amount to
    deficient performance. The differences in Krajnik’s affidavit and trial testimony were minimal at
    most. Krajnik was not an expert in mitochondrial DNA testing and could not perform it. She
    specifically stated that it was a more sensitive test and she “wanted to know if they type the same
    bone samples [she] types, will they get a result.” The mitochondrial DNA test could have found
    (1) no DNA (which it did), thus confirming that whatever she found was a contaminant, (2) some
    partial DNA that did not match Dowd, thus determining that the bones were not from Dowd, or
    (3) some DNA of Dowd. Any of these results would have been material to the case. Though
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    Krajnik did not testify or aver in her affidavit that the DNA of Dowd could be found, it was still
    a potential option with the more sensitive testing. Moreover, a finding of no DNA or a
    determination that the bones were not from Dowd would have been favorable to defendant.
    Therefore, defendant cannot establish that counsel was unreasonable for failing to move the
    circuit court for reconsideration of the continuance or a dismissal on speedy trial grounds.
    ¶ 20           Further, defendant has also not shown that he was prejudiced by his counsel’s alleged
    failure. The court was unlikely to have granted either the motion to reconsider or the motion to
    dismiss. Even with Krajnik’s trial testimony, the mitochondrial DNA testing was material to the
    case. We also note that defendant subsequently waived his speedy trial right and moved for a
    continuance multiple times, based on the fact that the State was still awaiting results from its
    DNA expert.
    ¶ 21                                     B. Preliminary Krankel Inquiry
    ¶ 22           Next, defendant contends that the court should have conducted a preliminary Krankel
    inquiry into the allegations of ineffective assistance of counsel contained in the letters that
    defendant sent the court prior to sentencing. We note that the court had previously conducted a
    preliminary Krankel inquiry for the ineffective assistance of counsel claim defendant raised at
    the close of evidence at trial.
    ¶ 23           At the outset, we note that the State contends that the circuit court read defendant’s letters
    and “found, not only that defendant’s claims were without merit, but that they had already been
    addressed during the previous Krankel hearing.” The State mischaracterizes the record. The court
    stated at the sentencing hearing only that it had read defendant’s letters. It did not make any
    findings regarding the merit of the claims or state that that claims had been previously addressed.
    The record contains no indication that the court actually considered the letters at all. Moreover,
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    the preliminary Krankel inquiry held after the close of evidence did not address many of the
    ineffective assistance of counsel allegations that defendant subsequently raised in his letters.
    ¶ 24          A defendant who raises a pro se posttrial claim of ineffective assistance of counsel is
    entitled to have those claims heard by the circuit court. People v. Krankel, 
    102 Ill. 2d 181
    (1984).
    Hearing those claims is a two-step process: (1) the circuit court makes a preliminary inquiry to
    examine the factual basis of the defendant’s claim and (2) if the allegations show “possible
    neglect of the case,” new counsel is appointed to represent the defendant in a full hearing on his
    pro se claims. People v. Moore, 
    207 Ill. 2d 68
    , 78 (2003). In order to trigger a preliminary
    inquiry, “ ‘[a] pro se defendant is not required to do any more than bring his or her claim to the
    trial court’s attention’ [citations], and thus, a defendant is not required to file a written motion
    [citation] but may raise the issue orally [citation] or through a letter or note to the court
    [citation].” People v. Ayres, 
    2017 IL 120071
    , ¶ 11 (quoting 
    Moore, 207 Ill. 2d at 79
    ). “In making
    the inquiry, ‘some interchange between the trial court and trial counsel regarding the facts and
    circumstances surrounding the allegedly ineffective representation is permissible and usually
    necessary in assessing what further action, if any, is warranted on a defendant’s claim.’ ” 
    Id. ¶ 12
    (quoting People v. Jolly, 
    2014 IL 117142
    , ¶ 30, and citing 
    Moore, 207 Ill. 2d at 78
    ). The circuit
    court may address the contentions with counsel and the defendant and may “make its
    determination based on its knowledge of defense counsel’s performance at trial and the
    insufficiency of the defendant’s allegations.” 
    Id. ¶ 25
             The parties do not dispute that the court held a preliminary Krankel inquiry after the close
    of evidence at trial. Defendant stated,
    “I’ve been misinformed before, during my trial that I would be found guilty at
    trial. I had asked my lawyers to question witnesses and evidence at cross­
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    examination and [received] no response. I don’t believe I got a fair
    misrepresentation [sic] because they had ill intentions from the get-go to send me
    to prison for something I didn’t do. I’ve asked them repeatedly to question
    witnesses on and off the stand to show my innocence. *** [T]he witnesses were
    Mike Diaz, Bob—Barbie Fuller, Rob Douglas Murray and Donnie Thompson.”
    The court gave defense counsel an opportunity to respond, and then the court said it could not
    “find anything which shows an incompetency or a lack of presentation or preparation in the
    matter.”
    ¶ 26          However, after trial, defendant sent multiple letters to the court raising various additional
    claims of ineffective assistance of counsel. Thus, the question before us is whether the court was
    required, under Krankel and its progeny, to conduct another preliminary Krankel inquiry to
    address the subsequent claims defendant raised. The State contends that a defendant is not
    entitled to multiple preliminary Krankel inquiries, asserting that it is “unaware of any authority
    stating that a defendant may bring an endless string of such claims prior to sentencing and have
    them all heard in successive Krankel proceedings.” Likewise, defendant states that he “is
    unaware of any authority stating that a defendant may not do so.” We too have failed to find any
    case law expressly discussing the matter and believe it is a question of first impression.
    ¶ 27          We believe that the public policy considerations discussed by our supreme court in Ayres
    appear to support the contention that a defendant could raise multiple ineffective assistance of
    counsel claims posttrial that require successive Krankel proceedings. Ayres says:
    “The goal of Krankel is to ‘facilitate the trial court’s full consideration of a
    defendant’s pro se claims of ineffective assistance of trial counsel and thereby
    potentially limit issues on appeal.’ Jolly, 
    2014 IL 117142
    , ¶ 29. Moreover, ‘[b]y
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    initially evaluating the defendant’s claims in a preliminary Krankel inquiry, the
    circuit court will create the necessary record for any claims raised on appeal.’ 
    Id. ¶ 38.
    Absent such a record, as in the case at bar, appellate review is precluded.
    Moreover, the inquiry is not burdensome upon the circuit court, and the facts and
    circumstances surrounding the claim will be much clearer in the minds of all
    involved when the inquiry is made just subsequent to trial or plea, as opposed to
    years later on appeal.” 
    Id. ¶ 21.
    Ayres further states:
    “The purpose of the preliminary inquiry is to ascertain the underlying
    factual basis for the ineffective assistance claim and to afford a defendant an
    opportunity to explain and support his claim. In this way, the circuit court will
    have the necessary information to determine whether new counsel should be
    appointed to argue the claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. A defendant
    need only bring his claim to the court’s attention, posttrial, whether orally or in
    writing.” 
    Id. ¶ 24.
    ¶ 28          The preliminary Krankel inquiry is a way for the court to efficiently consider a
    defendant’s allegations of ineffective assistance of counsel close in time to when they occurred
    and create a record that could be used on appeal. Such an inquiry is not burdensome on the court
    as it does not take much time; the preliminary inquiry, here, after the close of evidence, is
    contained on only 2½ pages of the record. As Ayres states:
    “ ‘What if a pro se defendant is present in court and says “I received ineffective
    assistance of counsel”? Can the circuit court just ignore that comment?’ The
    answer is clearly ‘No,’ and because a circuit court cannot ignore such a claim, it
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    would be illogical to now hold a court may ignore a claim made in a pro se
    defendant’s written posttrial motion.” 
    Id. ¶ 23.
    ¶ 29          We believe the above reasoning applies equally to multiple ineffective assistance claims.
    Had defendant orally pronounced each of his allegations in open court, the court could not have
    ignored them. The fact that he brought the claims in separate letters does not change this duty.
    We note, too, that allowing only one preliminary Krankel inquiry would lead to absurd results.
    The preliminary inquiry in this case happened at the close of evidence, but before the trial was
    over and before sentencing. Allowing only one inquiry would prevent a defendant in a similar
    situation from raising any contentions with counsel’s performance during closing arguments,
    sentencing, or posttrial motions.
    ¶ 30          Defendant’s letter raised many claims of ineffective assistance of counsel. Some actually
    included the words “ineffective assistance” or “sixth amendment,” while other allegations did
    not specifically say ineffective assistance, but challenged counsel’s failures more specifically.
    Either way, the court should have conducted a preliminary inquiry. See People v. Lobdell, 
    2017 IL App (3d) 150074
    , ¶ 37 (holding that either the words “ineffective assistance” or the substance
    of a claim was enough to require a preliminary inquiry). Therefore, we find that the court was
    required to hold a preliminary Krankel inquiry to ascertain the factual basis of defendant’s
    ineffective assistance of counsel claims contained in his letters. We note that in cases such as
    this, where a defendant has sent multiple letters after trial, a court need not conduct a separate
    inquiry immediately after receiving each letter. The court, in this case, could have addressed five
    of defendant’s letters when defendant was in court for the sentencing hearing. This may have
    prevented defendant from sending another letter after sentencing (the fifth of the five letters).
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    ¶ 31           Here, the court never determined whether or not defendant raised a “colorable claim” of
    ineffective assistance of counsel. While the State would have us believe that it is defendant’s
    duty to raise a “colorable claim” of ineffective assistance, we note that our supreme court has
    expressly held that a defendant’s claim of ineffective assistance of counsel does not have to be
    legally sound in order to trigger a preliminary hearing. Ayres, 
    2017 IL 120071
    , ¶¶ 11, 35. The
    point of the preliminary inquiry is for the circuit court to give defendant an opportunity to flesh
    out his claim. 
    Id. ¶ 20.
    It is only after the preliminary inquiry that the court determines whether
    defendant’s allegations show possible neglect in order to require appointment of new counsel for
    a full Krankel hearing. 
    Moore, 207 Ill. 2d at 77-78
    . We emphasize that a full interchange
    between the court, defendant, and counsel is not required in every preliminary inquiry. In some
    instances, the court’s knowledge of counsel’s performance and the insufficiency of the
    defendant’s allegations may be enough to determine that defendant did not raise a colorable
    claim to justify a Krankel hearing. See Ayres, 
    2017 IL 120071
    , ¶ 12 (in making the preliminary
    inquiry, “the trial court is permitted to make its determination based on its knowledge of defense
    counsel’s performance at trial and the insufficiency of the defendant’s allegations”). Remand is
    warranted in the instant case because the court failed to conduct any type of preliminary inquiry.
    
    Id. ¶ 26.
    ¶ 32                                         III. CONCLUSION
    ¶ 33           The judgment of the circuit court of La Salle County is affirmed and remanded with
    instructions to conduct a preliminary Krankel inquiry.
    ¶ 34           Affirmed and remanded.
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