County of Cook v. Illinois Labor Relations Board ( 2012 )


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    Appellate Court
    County of Cook v. Illinois Labor Relations Board, Local Panel, 
    2012 IL App (1st) 111514
    Appellate Court            THE COUNTY OF COOK, Petitioner-Appellant, v. ILLINOIS LABOR
    Caption                    RELATIONS BOARD, LOCAL PANEL, BEVERLY JOSEPH and
    LESLIE MITCHNER, Respondents-Appellees.
    District & No.             First District, Second Division
    Docket No. 1-11-1514
    Filed                      August 14, 2012
    Held                       An order of the Illinois Labor Relations Board finding Cook County
    (Note: This syllabus       guilty of an unfair labor practice for refusing to offer reinstatement to two
    constitutes no part of     employees at a juvenile detention center as a settlement after they were
    the opinion of the court   terminated for refusing to submit to background checks was reversed
    but has been prepared      where the only evidence supporting that ruling was an inadmissible
    by the Reporter of         statement of a human resource employee, and even it that statement were
    Decisions for the          admissible, it would have been insufficient to establish antiunion animus.
    convenience of the
    reader.)
    Decision Under             Petition for review of order of Illinois Labor Relations Board, Local
    Review                     Panel, Nos. L-CA-09-046, L-CA-09-099.
    Judgment                   Reversed.
    Counsel on                 Anita M. Alvarez, State’s Attorney, of Chicago (Patrick T. Driscoll, Jr.,
    Appeal                     Gregory Vaci, and Andrew J. Creighton, Assistant State’s Attorneys, of
    counsel), for petitioner.
    Karmel Law Firm, of Chicago (Jonathan D. Karmel and Alexander G.
    Barney, of counsel), for respondents.
    Panel                      PRESIDING JUSTICE QUINN delivered the judgment of the court, with
    opinion.
    Justices Connors and Harris concurred in the judgment and opinion.
    OPINION
    ¶1          This case involves direct appellate review of a decision and order entered by the Illinois
    Labor Relations Board finding that Cook County was guilty of an unfair labor practice by
    refusing to offer one of two former employees reinstatement as a settlement offer during a
    settlement conference and, therefore, ordered both employees reinstated with back pay
    despite the fact that a final, binding union arbitration decision determined the employees
    were terminated for just cause. The employer, Cook County appeals.
    ¶2                                          I. Background
    ¶3           In 2008, background checks were ordered for all employees and volunteers at the Cook
    County Juvenile Temporary Detention Center (JTDC). These background checks were one
    of the outcomes of a federal class-action complaint filed on behalf of the juveniles residing
    at the JTDC. The complaint alleged that the staff physically abused residents, that
    management failed to investigate and discipline the abusive staff and that services provided
    at the JTDC were constitutionally inadequate. A federal order was entered in 2007 appointing
    a transitional administrator (TA) for the JTDC to bring it into compliance with constitutional
    standards as agreed to by the parties. The federal order gave the TA broad authority to do
    this. The TA, in a goal of implementing the federal order regarding the JTDC, required that
    all staff members and volunteers who had contact with residents at the JTDC undergo
    background checks to uncover both criminal conduct and any history of child abuse or
    neglect.
    ¶4           Two employees/nurses, Beverly Joseph and Leslie Mitchner, were assigned to the JTDC.
    They were discharged for gross insubordination for refusing to authorize a “Child Abuse and
    Neglect Tracking System” (CANTS) background check, as well as a “Law Enforcement
    Automated Data Systems” (LEADS) criminal background check that were ordered by the
    TA. Both employees were given numerous opportunities to comply but steadfastly refused
    even though they were informed that termination was the penalty for refusal. Additionally,
    they were aware that they could have cooperated and subsequently file a union grievance
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    concerning their compliance with a background check without suffering any adverse action.
    This practice is commonly referred to as “comply and grieve.” Instead, they both chose not
    to cooperate and were terminated.
    ¶5       Both employees grieved their discharges through their union. Pursuant to article XI of
    the collective bargaining agreement between the employees’ union and Cook County, the
    employees’ grievances on their termination was sent to binding arbitration. The arbitrator
    rendered an award in favor of the employer, Cook County, and found that the employer had
    just cause to discharge both employees because they had committed a “major cause”
    infraction. Both employees were found guilty of gross insubordination for failing to agree
    to cooperate with the required background checks.
    ¶6       The following excerpt from the arbitrator’s decision summarizes the evidence against the
    two employees:
    “The Grievants were given multiple opportunities to comply with the directive. The
    Employer did not act precipitously. The Grievants had many weeks to consider the matter
    and consult with others. Initially, they were given three weeks to provide the information,
    even though the task could be completed in a few minutes. When they failed to comply,
    they were given an additional 26 days in which to comply. They were given a reminder
    and a warning, and finally a choice–comply or face discipline, up to termination. They
    knew that if they did not comply, they would be barred from reporting to work. That fact
    alone should have told them that continued non-compliance made their discharge
    inevitable.” In re Arbitration between Cook County, Illinois (Cermak/JTDC) & National
    Nurses Organizing Committee, at 28 (Opinion and Award Aug. 7, 2009).
    ¶7       Prior to the arbitration that resulted in a ruling upholding the discharges, a Cook County
    human resources employee met with a representative of the employees’ union to attempt to
    settle a number of cases scheduled for arbitration, including these two discharges. At that
    settlement conference, the Cook County employee told the union he would be willing to
    reinstate Beverly Joseph but not Leslie Mitchner. There is no record of the terms of the
    settlement offer to reinstate Joseph or why the union refused the employer’s reinstatement
    offer for Joseph. The record only reflects that Joseph was not reinstated as a result of the
    settlement offer. However, the union representative reported that she asked if the human
    resource employee was opposed to offering Mitchner reinstatement because she filed 14 or
    15 grievances in a single day and that the Cook County employee answered “yes.”
    Thereafter, the above-mentioned arbitration hearing was held upholding both terminations
    with findings of gross insubordination by the employees and just cause by the employer in
    taking the termination action.
    ¶8       Almost three months after the final, binding union arbitration decision that held the
    employer had just cause to discharge both employees, the Illinois Labor Relations Board
    (ILRB) consolidated Joseph’s February 9, 2009 ILRB charge regarding her termination with
    Mitchner’s June 10, 2009 ILRB charge of not giving her the same settlement offer of
    reinstatement as the one submitted to Joseph, and filed the instant complaint alleging that the
    employer had antiunion motivation in the actual discharge of the two employees. The ILRB
    used the single response made during the settlement conference by a Cook County employee
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    who was not involved in the discharges concerning the grievance as evidence of antiunion
    motivation for the discharge and for not offering to settle Mitchner’s termination during a
    settlement conference where Joseph was offered reinstatement.
    ¶9          Following a hearing on the ILRB charge, the administrative law judge (ALJ)
    recommended that the employer, Cook County, be found to be motivated by antiunion
    animus when it initially discharged both Joseph and Mitchner. The ALJ also recommended
    that the same antiunion animus caused Cook County to refuse to offer reinstatement to both
    employees at the settlement conference without addressing how either employee had any
    right to a settlement offer of reinstatement. This recommendation did not address Cook
    County’s offer to reinstate Joseph at the settlement conference. The sole basis for the ALJ’s
    recommendation to reinstate both employees was the reported response given by the Cook
    County employee at the settlement conference to a question posed to him about Mitchner.
    ¶ 10        The ILRB three-member panel considered the ALJ’s decision together with written
    comments by both parties concerning the recommendation. Joseph, 27 PERI ¶ 57 (ILRB
    Local Panel 2011). The ILRB panel rejected the ALJ’s recommended ruling that both
    employees were initially discharged due to antiunion animus. Two members of the ILRB
    panel concurred with the ALJ’s recommended ruling that both employees were not offered
    reinstatement at the settlement conference because of antiunion animus.
    ¶ 11        The third ILRB panel member, dissenting from the majority’s decision regarding
    antiunion animus at the settlement conference, held the following:
    “While I concur in my colleagues’ determination that Respondent did not violate the
    Act by terminating Mitchner and Joseph because they refused to sign the background
    authorization forms, I must respectfully dissent from their determination that Respondent
    violated the Act by refusing to reinstate them. The majority makes this determination
    based entirely upon the statement purportedly made by Luis Martinez that he would not
    reinstate Mitchner because she had filed 14 grievances in a single day. More precisely,
    it is based upon witness testimony concerning a single statement made during settlement
    discussions by a person (apparently not involved in the decision to terminate Mitchner
    and Joseph) about an employee (Mitchner) who all agree had been insubordinate and
    who had, in fact, filed an inordinate number of grievances for which (because they had
    been filed in her capacity as a union member, not as a union representative) she had no
    grounds. I find the strength of this single bit of evidence insufficient to bear the Charging
    Parties’ burden of demonstrating that Respondent’s motive in refusing to reinstate
    Mitchner and Joseph was union animus, and I would have dismissed the complaint in its
    entirety.” Joseph, 27 PERI ¶ 57, at 253 (Member Anderson, concurring in part &
    dissenting in part).
    ¶ 12        The majority’s order provided no analysis regarding the employer’s offer to reinstate
    Joseph. No analysis was made of how this single 2009 response by a Cook County employee
    not involved in the decision to terminate the two employees could be found to permeate the
    attitude of the Cook County officials responsible for the employees’ discharge and decision
    not to offer reinstatement to Mitchner during the settlement conference. No analysis was
    made of the arbitrator’s decision that found the employer had just cause to terminate both
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    employees and its legal effect on the ILRB or its decision. No analysis was provided as to
    how an employer could have antiunion animus when it did not offer reinstatement to a
    former employee who was not entitled to it as a matter of right. The panel’s order did not
    discuss how or why it thought the absence of a settlement offer to reinstate Mitchner was an
    adverse employment action. It is plainly evident that an adverse employment action cannot
    occur by depriving a former employee of something she has no right to receive.
    ¶ 13       The response to a question posed by the union in 2009 during settlement negotiations was
    the only “evidence” submitted to demonstrate antiunion animus. The employer, Cook
    County, objected to the admissibility of the union representatives’ recollection of the
    employee’s response because it was made during the course of a settlement conference. The
    dissenting board member concluded that the single response was insufficient to meet the
    employees’ burden of proof at the ILRB hearing to demonstrate antiunion animus in not
    offering reinstatement to both employees at the settlement conference.
    ¶ 14       The ILRB ruled that both employees should be reinstated with full back pay and benefits
    contingent on the employees authorizing, and now passing, the very background checks that
    their employer requested in the first place. So, more than 3½ years later, the employees are
    placed in almost the identical position they were in just before they were fired. They must
    sign the authorizations for the background checks before they can be reinstated or they can
    choose to be unemployed by continuing to refuse to sign them, only this time they will get
    paid for the years they were not working if they now sign the authorizations. The ILRB ruling
    provides that they will not be reinstated if they do not pass the background checks.
    ¶ 15       Cook County appeals the ILRB 2 to1 split decision issued by the ILRB on May 11, 2011.
    ¶ 16                                   II. Standard of Review
    ¶ 17       The applicable standard of review in an administrative case such as a decision by the
    ILRB depends on whether the question is one of law, fact or a mixed question of law and
    fact. Cinkus v. Village of Stickney Municipal Officers Electoral Board, 
    228 Ill. 2d 200
    , 210
    (2008). Any questions of law are subject to de novo review. Illinois State Toll Highway
    Authority v. Illinois Labor Relations Board, State Panel, 
    405 Ill. App. 3d 1022
    , 1028 (2010).
    This would include whether the agency applied a rule of evidence appropriately. Julie Q. v.
    Department of Children & Family Services, 
    2011 IL App (2d) 100643
    . Once the evidence
    is deemed admissible, the ILRB’s evidentiary ruling on whether a comment made by an
    employee during settlement negotiations can be used as evidence to establish liability is
    reviewed for abuse of discretion. Paxton-Buckley-Loda Education Ass’n v. Illinois
    Educational Labor Relations Board, 
    304 Ill. App. 3d 343
    , 351 (1999).
    ¶ 18       The ILRB’s factual finding that the employer was motivated by union animus in not
    offering to settle both union grievances by offering reinstatement to both employees rather
    than just one is reviewed under the manifest weight of the evidence standard. City of
    Belvidere v. Illinois State Labor Relations Board, 
    181 Ill. 2d 191
    , 205 (1998). An ILRB
    factual determination is manifestly erroneous where the opposite conclusion is clear and
    evident. City of Belvidere v. Illinois Labor Relations Board, 
    181 Ill. 2d at 205
    . Mixed
    questions of law and fact will be reversed if they are clearly erroneous. “An agency decision
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    will be reversed because it is clearly erroneous only if the reviewing court, based on the
    entirety of the record, is ‘left with the definite and firm conviction that a mistake has been
    committed.’ [Citation.] While this standard is highly deferential, it does not relegate judicial
    review to mere blind deference of an agency’s order.” (Internal quotation marks omitted.)
    SPEED District 802 v. Warning, 
    242 Ill. 2d 92
    , 112 (2011) (quoting Board of Trustees of the
    University of Illinois v. Illinois Labor Relations Board, 
    224 Ill. 2d 88
    , 97-98 (2007)).
    ¶ 19       Both the ILRB and this court are bound to enforce a union arbitration award if the
    arbitrator acts within the scope of his or her authority and the award draws its essence from
    the parties’ collective bargaining agreement. American Federation of State, County &
    Municipal Employees v. Department of Central Management Services, 
    173 Ill. 2d 299
    , 304-
    05 (1996).
    ¶ 20                                          III. Analysis
    ¶ 21        The ILRB complaint for hearing again challenged the terminations of Joseph and
    Mitchner that were previously litigated and for which there was a final and binding
    arbitration decision, but this time the complaint alleged an unfair labor practice. It also
    challenged the fact that Mitchner was not offered reinstatement during a settlement
    conference held to attempt to resolve the union grievance before final arbitration. Cook
    County answered the complaints, in part, by raising the defense that there exists a final,
    binding arbitration decision wherein the arbitrator found that Cook County had just cause to
    discharge both Joseph and Mitchner for failing to authorize and submit to background
    checks.
    ¶ 22        Final and binding arbitration awards, such as the one upholding these two terminations,
    must be enforced, as stated earlier. 
    Id.
     The ILRB’s decision to reinstate both employees voids
    the arbitration award that found just cause to discharge both employees. No challenge is
    made to the arbitrator’s authority when he entered his finding of just cause for the
    terminations.
    ¶ 23        Preliminarily, we acknowledge that the appellant, Cook County, did not raise its
    argument that the ILRB has no power or right to reinstate any employee terminated for just
    cause until its reply brief when it cited to the federal enabling statute for the National Labor
    Relations Board and quoted the following: “No order of the Board shall require the
    reinstatement of any individual as an employee who has been suspended or discharged, or
    the payment to him of any back pay, if such individual was suspended or discharged for
    cause.” 
    29 U.S.C. § 160
    (c) (2006). Cook County did not raise the ILRB’s purported inability
    to reinstate these two employees in its opening brief, nor did it cite to the federal statute in
    any manner. This argument challenges the ILRB’s ability to order the remedy of
    reinstatement of the two Cook County employees who were fired for just cause. A liberal
    reading of the ILRB’s and employees’ responsive briefs leaves us wondering what Cook
    County was replying to and why it did not raise this argument in its opening brief. It is, at
    first blush, quite compelling. However, our own research to ensure it is not a dispositive
    jurisdictional issue indicates that the state statute outlining the powers of the ILRB deletes
    the above-quoted phrase from the state statute, which otherwise appears to mirror the federal
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    statute. 5 ILCS 315/11(c) (West 2008). The ILRB attorney, at oral argument, confirmed as
    much when replying orally to the reply brief’s argument. Therefore, whether the ILRB went
    beyond its statutory power is not a jurisdictional issue in this case.
    ¶ 24       In failing to raise this issue until its reply brief, Cook County deprived the opposing
    parties of their right to respond to arguments and deprived this court of the benefit of their
    arguments. Therefore, we refuse to address any argument raised for the first time in the
    appellant’s reply brief regarding Cook County’s position that the ILRB cannot order the
    remedy of reinstatement for employees terminated for just cause. Cook County waived its
    right to argue this point where it was raised for the first time in the reply brief. Ill. S. Ct. R.
    341(g) (eff. July 1, 2008); Salerno v. Innovative Surveillance Technology, Inc., 
    402 Ill. App. 3d 490
     (2010). However, a decision on this issue is not critical to a just resolution.
    ¶ 25       In a case before the ILRB, the party alleging an unfair labor practice has the burden of
    proof. There are four basic elements to an allegation of unfair labor practice, as follows: (1)
    the employee is engaged in protected union activity; (2) the employer had knowledge of the
    protected activity; (3) the employer took an adverse employment action against the
    employee; and (4) the employer’s action was motivated by the employer’s animus toward the
    employee’s protected union activity. City of Burbank v. Illinois State Labor Relations Board,
    
    128 Ill. 2d 335
    , 346 (1989). If a prima facie case of an unfair labor practice is established
    with these four elements, then the burden shifts to the employer to advance a legitimate
    reason for the adverse employment action and to show that he relied on that reason. The
    employer must establish that the employee would have suffered the adverse employment
    action notwithstanding his union activity. 
    Id.
     The above scenario is simple enough to apply
    when it comes to the termination of the two employees in the instant case. Regardless of
    whether they can meet the four elements of their case based on their termination, their
    employer, Cook County, need only present the final, binding union arbitration decision that
    held it had just cause to terminate them. This decision is conclusive evidence of a justifiable
    termination.
    ¶ 26       The terminated employee, Mitchner, also charged an unfair labor practice which she
    alleged arose during the settlement conference that occurred after their termination where
    Joseph was offered reinstatement, but Mitchner was not. It is on this alleged unfair labor
    practice that the ILRB ruled.
    ¶ 27       As to the first element of the employees’ proof on this issue, both employees engaged in
    protected union activity. Both Joseph and Mitchner had filed seven union grievances and an
    additional eighth grievance, jointly, all in one day. There is no dispute that their employer
    had knowledge of these grievances. However, while Cook County concedes that the
    employees’ terminations were adverse employment actions, all parties are silent on whether,
    following termination, it is an adverse employment action to fail to offer reinstatement as a
    settlement proposal during a settlement conference to an employee who was terminated for
    just cause. Surely, a former employee has no right to such an offer, so it seems clear that an
    employer cannot be held liable for not offering a settlement to which no employee is entitled.
    Saying something objectionable during a settlement conference, even if actionable, would
    only entitle the employee to that which he would have been entitled to had the comment not
    been said. Neither the employees nor the ILRB cites any case holding that an employee who
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    is fired for just cause is ever entitled, as a matter of right, to an offer of reinstatement during
    a settlement conference.
    ¶ 28        Both the ILRB and the employees in their respective briefs characterize this case as a
    failure to reinstate. The facts of this case are radically different from those present in cases
    addressing a failure-to-reinstate issue. For example, cases have addressed failure-to-reinstate
    issues when an employer refuses to comply with the reinstatement provisions of an
    arbitration award or refuses to reinstate an employee following an extended medical leave.
    Central Community Unit School District No. 4 v. Illinois Educational Labor Relations
    Board, 
    388 Ill. App. 3d 1060
    , 1066 (2009); City of Loves Park v. Illinois Labor Relations
    Board State Panel, 
    343 Ill. App. 3d 389
     (2003); City of Benton Police Department v. Human
    Rights Comm’n, 
    160 Ill. App. 3d 55
    , 56 (1987). In this case, the employees had no
    identifiable right to reinstatement. The employer merely did not extend a settlement offer in
    the form of reinstatement to one employee, Mitchner. Neither the ILRB nor the employees
    cite to any case that holds that a failure to offer a settlement of reinstatement is a true failure-
    to-reinstate case. The ILRB and the employees fail to cite a case holding that failing to offer
    reinstatement as a settlement to an employee who was terminated for just cause constitutes
    an actionable adverse action.
    ¶ 29        However, we make no determination as to whether there is an adverse employment action
    by the employer in this instance. At the time of the settlement conference, both Joseph and
    Mitchner were terminated, former employees. To suffer the adverse employment action they
    complain of, one must establish that the employee has some right to a settlement offer of
    reinstatement that was violated by the employer. It is well settled in Illinois that a reviewing
    court should not normally search the record for unargued and unbriefed reasons to reverse
    a lower court ruling. People v. Givens, 
    237 Ill. 2d 311
    , 323-24 (2010); People v. Rodriguez,
    
    336 Ill. App. 3d 1
    , 14 (2002). This axiom should apply with equal force to decisions of an
    administrative agency. This was a settlement conference. Both employees were terminated
    for the same reason. Both employees filed the same number of union grievances. Joseph was
    offered reinstatement. Mitchner was not offered reinstatement. We could speculate all day
    about why, but because the issue was not briefed by the parties, pursuant to Illinois Supreme
    Court Rule 341(h)(7) (eff. July 1, 2008), we will assume for purposes of this appeal that there
    was a showing of an adverse employment action because there can be no violations of
    sections 10(a)(1) or 10(a)(2) of the Illinois Labor Relations Act without it. American
    Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees, Council 31 v. Illinois State Labor
    Relations Board, 
    175 Ill. App. 3d 191
    , 197 (1988); Rockford Township Highway Department
    v. Illinois State Labor Relations Board, 
    153 Ill. App. 3d 863
    , 872 (1987). We will discuss
    the remaining issues.
    ¶ 30        The Illinois Administrative Code provides that in administrative hearings “[t]he rules of
    evidence and privilege as applied in civil cases in the circuit courts of Illinois shall be
    followed.” (Emphasis added.) 80 Ill. Adm. Code 1.233 (2012). However, section 11(a) of the
    Illinois Labor Relations Act states that “[i]n any hearing conducted by the Board, neither the
    Board nor the member or agent conducting the hearing shall be bound by the rules of
    evidence applicable to courts, except as to the rules of privilege recognized by law.” 5 ILCS
    315/11(a) (West 2008). However, the ILRB’s own rules provide that “the Administrative
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    Law Judge will, insofar as practicable, apply the rules of evidence applicable in Illinois
    Courts.” 80 Ill. Adm. Code 1200.130 (2012). It is the ILRB’s rules that we find controlling
    in the ILRB hearing held before the ALJ. The ALJ and, subsequently, the ILRB panel should
    have applied the rules of evidence applicable in Illinois courts but failed to do so.
    ¶ 31        We find that the ILRB ruling to reinstate the instant employees, who were terminated for
    just cause, should be reversed for failure of admissible proof that an unfair labor practice had
    occurred. We are troubled by the majority ILRB members’ willingness to adopt the ALJ’s
    admission of evidence which ignored established rules of evidence when dealing with the
    admissibility of a comment reportedly made during a settlement conference to establish
    liability in this case.
    ¶ 32        Illinois courts generally do not admit matters concerning settlement and negotiations.
    Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. v. American Home Assurance Co., 
    368 Ill. App. 3d 948
    , 960
    (2006) (citing Garcez v. Michel, 
    282 Ill. App. 3d 346
    , 348-49 (1996)). The prohibition of
    admission of such evidence is based on two major concerns: (1) admitting evidence of
    settlements and negotiations contravenes public policy by discouraging litigants from settling
    their disputes without the need for trial; and (2) negotiations and settlements do not
    constitute an admission of guilt for any reason and are, therefore, irrelevant. Liberty Mutual
    Insurance Co. v. American Home Assurance Co., 
    368 Ill. App. 3d 948
    , 960 (2006) (citing
    Garcez v. Michel, 
    282 Ill. App. 3d 346
    , 349 (1996)).
    ¶ 33        Illinois courts have routinely adopted and applied the federal evidentiary rule dealing
    with the admissibility of information and statements generated during settlement negotiations
    between the parties.
    ¶ 34        In 2010, Federal Rule of Evidence 408 provided:
    “(a) Prohibited uses. Evidence of the following is not admissible–on behalf of any
    party–either to prove or disprove the validity or amount of a disputed claim or to impeach
    by a prior inconsistent statement or contradiction:
    (1) furnishing, promising or offering–or accepting, promising to accept, or
    offering to accept–a valuable consideration in compromising or attempting to
    compromise the claim; and
    (2) conduct or a statement made during compromise negotiations about the
    claim–except when offered in a criminal case and when the negotiations related to
    a claim by a public office in the exercise of its regulatory, investigative, or
    enforcement authority.
    (b) Exceptions. The court may admit this evidence for another purpose, such as
    proving a witness’s bias or prejudice, negating a contention of undue delay, or proving
    an effort to obstruct a criminal investigation or prosecution.”
    ¶ 35        After the hearings in this ILRB case concluded, the Illinois Supreme Court enacted its
    own Rule of Evidence 408 involving what may and may not be admissible arising from
    settlement discussions had between the parties. Ill. R. Evid. 408 (eff. Jan. 1, 2011). Prior to
    its passage, the Illinois courts and administrative hearing officers relied on the federal rule
    and its accompanying case law. The Illinois Rule of Evidence 408 mirrors the Federal Rule
    408, which our state courts have been applying to cases for years.
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    ¶ 36       As if that were not enough, the ILRB’s own rules provide for Federal Rule of Evidence
    408 protection of statements made during settlement negotiations, as follows:
    “The Board, as a matter of policy, encourages the voluntary efforts of the parties to
    settle or adjust disputes involving issues of representation, unfair labor practices, and
    interest and rights disputes. Any such efforts at resolution or conciliation and any
    resulting settlements shall be in compliance with the provisions, purposes and policies
    of the Act. Any facts, admissions against interest, offers of settlement or proposals of
    adjustment that have been submitted pursuant to this Section shall not be used as
    evidence of an admission of a violation of the Act.” 80 Ill. Adm. Code 1200.120 (2012).
    ¶ 37       The parties failed to cite to this ILRB rule, which dictates how the ILRB should treat
    settlement negotiations. The majority ILRB decision failed to address its own rule on this
    issue. It merely concludes that Federal Rule of Evidence 408 is inapplicable because the
    “statement was made in the course of a discussion regarding settling grievances, not in the
    course of attempting to settle the charges in the instant case.” Joseph, 27 PERI ¶ 57, at
    251.We could not disagree more, especially because the alleged comment arose out of the
    identical facts and circumstances. Statements made during settlement negotiations do not
    lose their Rule 408 protection merely because a case ends. One cannot reconstitute a
    grievance claim into an ILRB unfair labor practice allegation by releasing an inadmissible
    Rule 408-protected statement made during settlement negotiations and use that protected
    statement as their sole basis of liability before the ILRB.
    ¶ 38       Federal Rule of Evidence 408 prohibits the admission into evidence of statements made
    during settlement negotiations as proof of the validity of a claim–in this case, an unfair labor
    practice. It is apparent that the terminated employees wanted to admit evidence of the human
    resource employee’s alleged statement made during a settlement conference regarding why
    Cook County did not want to reinstate one employee, Mitchner, as an admission of the
    validity of their claim before the ILRB. Therefore, if Federal Rule of Evidence 408 applies,
    this evidence is inadmissible. Two members of the ILRB panel admitted the testimony of
    union representatives who recounted the statement they heard from the human resource
    employee that Mitchner would not be offered reinstatement because of her 14 or 15 union
    grievances. The human resources employee who purportedly made the statement did not
    testify before the ILRB, and therefore could not have been a “witness” for purpose of Federal
    Rule of Evidence 408(b)’s exceptions. Further, there is no proof he had any decision-making
    authority in this case. There was only evidence that Director Lewis-Calvin was the sole
    decision-maker regarding both employees. Therefore, even if the human resources
    employee’s comment was admissible, it is irrelevant, as his antiunion animus is irrelevant.
    What is important is the antiunion animus of Director Lewis-Calvin, the sole decision-
    making supervisor. The human resource employee’s comment during a settlement conference
    “sheds no light on the issue of whether [Director Lewis-Calvin] acted out of ill will toward
    the Union, and therefore does not constitute evidence that antiunion animus” was a factor in
    either Mitchner’s or Joseph’s firing or in Director Lewis-Calvin’s decision not to offer
    reinstatement to Mitchner during a settlement conference. Sears, Roebuck & Co. v. National
    Labor Relations Board, 
    349 F.3d 493
    , 507-08 (7th Cir. 2003); Sanchez, 23 PERI ¶ 137
    (IELRB 2007) (citing Sears, Roebuck & Co. v. National Labor Relations Board, 349 F.3d
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    493 (7th Cir. 2003)); Service Employees International Union, Local 73, 17 PERI ¶ 2040
    (ILRB State Panel 2001)).
    ¶ 39       In fact, Rose Lewis-Calvin, the director of health services, testified that she was
    delegated the task of completing the background checks for all employees and was the
    official who made the decision to fire the two employees in 2008 for their failure to submit
    to these checks. It was never shown in any proceeding either before the ILRB or the prior
    union arbitration that anyone other than Director Lewis-Calvin had any responsibility or
    authority in these two terminated employees’ cases, including whether they would be offered
    any settlement proposal at the settlement conference. There is no evidence that Director
    Lewis-Calvin ever spoke with the human resource employee in attendance at the settlement
    conference. There is no evidence that the employee was otherwise furnished with this reason
    from Director Lewis-Calvin as the true reason for not offering Mitchner reinstatement in
    settlement. This statement was clearly made during a settlement conference. The fact that the
    human resource employee agreed with an incorrect statement made by the union
    representatives when one queried if reinstatement was not offered to Mitchner because she
    filed 14 or 15 grievances (Mitchner actually filed 7 or 8 grievances–the same amount as
    Joseph) means little or nothing in the context of a settlement conference. After all, the
    settlement offer to reinstate Joseph did not mean that Cook County took the position that
    Joseph was not guilty of gross insubordination and not fired for just cause. Cook County
    pursued and won those claims during the union arbitration.
    ¶ 40       The ILRB majority cited Uforma/Shelby Business Forms, Inc. v. National Labor
    Relations Board, 
    111 F.3d 1284
    , 1293 (6th Cir. 1997), to justify their admission of this
    statement about one of the two employees made by a nondecision-maker during settlement
    negotiations. However, the Uforma/Shelby case is an extreme example where the employer’s
    agents, who were decision-making managers, made threats to close the business forms
    production plant to retaliate against the union for pursuing its efforts to unionize. There were
    no claims of threats in this case, and the ILRB should have weighed the probative value of
    the hearsay testimony against the overarching purpose of both the federal and state Rule of
    Evidence 408, which is to encourage settlements. Sterling Savings Bank v. Citadel
    Development Co., 
    656 F. Supp. 2d 1248
    , 1255 (D. Or. 2009) (and cases cited therein).
    ¶ 41       On appeal, the ILRB argues that the settlement conference involved numerous grievances
    and that this statement by the human resources employee occurred after they had moved on
    to other grievances and is, therefore, not protected by Federal Rule of Evidence 408. This
    argument falls flat. This court must look to the totality of the circumstances surrounding the
    settlement conference. There was no hard and fast procedural rule for this settlement
    conference where negotiations ended on one grievance the minute another grievance was
    discussed. The appellee’s argument is that because another grievance was being discussed,
    the human resource employee’s statement regarding this grievance was no longer a protected
    settlement conference statement. The ebb and flow of a settlement conference of this nature,
    where a large number of grievances are up for settlement negotiations, by its very nature,
    does not provide a basis to exclude the statement at issue from the protection of Rule 408.
    ¶ 42       The collective bargaining agreement required a settlement conference prior to each step
    of the grievance procedure that must be followed (article XI, section 11.5, grievance
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    procedure steps and section 11.9, grievance meetings). A prelude to the grievance procedures
    expresses “the intention of both parties to discuss and resolve disputes informally and
    attempt to settle them at the lowest level possible” (see article XI, section 11.1, the grievance
    procedure). The settlement offer to reinstate Joseph but not Mitchner came before the
    arbitration on the two terminations was held. The arbitration decision is a postoccurrence,
    independent basis to not offer to settle the termination by reinstatement. The arbitrator could
    have ruled in favor of the employees and they would have then been reinstated. The only
    adverse action Mitchner suffered as a result of no settlement offer of reinstatement was
    merely to go to arbitration on her termination, something that was scheduled to occur if the
    settlement meeting was not successful. The remedy ordered by the ILRB went far beyond a
    make-whole remedy that would put the parties in the same position they would have been
    in even if there was admissible evidence that an unfair labor practice had occurred during
    settlement talks. Paxton-Buckley-Loda Education Ass’n v. Illinois Educational Labor
    Relations Board, 
    304 Ill. App. 3d 343
    , 353 (1999).
    ¶ 43       In any event, both the federal and state Rule of Evidence 408 prohibit us from impliedly
    implementing such a procedural rule which would mandate serially discussing each
    grievance in isolation during settlement conferences where a bulk of grievances are up for
    discussion. The purpose of the Federal Rule of Evidence 408 is to encourage a settlement
    environment where people can discuss the issues freely and to their advantage without risk
    of later litigation for what they may have said or not said, or offered or not offered. The
    premise of Rule 408 is that settlement talks could be chilled if such discussions could later
    be used as admissions of liability, especially arising out of the same case being discussed.
    ¶ 44       We find that admission of the union representatives’ testimony that recounted the
    settlement conference statement they heard made by the Cook County human resource
    employee are violative of Federal Rule of Evidence 408 and the ILRB rule on settlement
    talks (80 Adm. Code 1200.120 (2012)). The sole substantive basis used to establish the
    validity of the unfair labor practice claim was the statement made by a human resource
    employee at the settlement conference. This is prohibited by both the language and intent of
    Federal Rule of Evidence 408. The ILRB abused its discretion in admitting the testimony of
    union representatives recounting a statement made by the Cook County human resource
    employee made during settlement negotiations as proof of liability of an unfair labor practice
    that the failure to offer reinstatement to Mitchner during settlement negotiations was born
    out of antiunion animus. Such a ruling by the ILRB, if allowed to stand, risks putting the
    many participants in these workplace settlement conferences on grievances in the very
    jeopardy that Rule 408 was designed to avoid. It is clear that litigation would multiply if off-
    the-record comments made during grievance settlement negotiations could be used as
    evidence of liability before the ILRB. It is a dangerous precedent that we are loath to
    establish in this case.
    ¶ 45       In any event, even if the settlement statement were admissible under Federal Rule of
    Evidence 408, we fail to understand how it applies in any way to Joseph and provides the
    ILRB with reason to reinstate the terminated employee, Joseph, who was offered
    reinstatement during the settlement conference. The majority panel does not explain its
    rationale for reinstating both employees where the statement of the human resource employee
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    only implicated Mitchner.
    ¶ 46       Additionally, even if the statement about Mitchner were admissible, we agree with the
    dissenting panel member, who succinctly stated that “the single bit of evidence [was]
    insufficient to bear the Charging Parties’ burden.” Joseph, 27 PERI ¶ 57, at 253 (Member
    Anderson concurring in part & dissenting in part).
    ¶ 47       One of Illinois’s most fundamental interests has always been the welfare and protection
    of minors. County of McLean v. Humphreys, 
    104 Ill. 378
    , 383 (1882). This public policy was
    reaffirmed in American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees v. Department
    of Central Management Services, 
    173 Ill. 2d 299
    , 311-17 (1996), where our supreme court
    held that even parental rights are secondary to Illinois’s strong interest in protecting children
    from the potential for abuse or neglect and agencies charged with the care of children must
    be allowed the necessary tools to prevent abuse and neglect. It follows that an employee’s
    rights are secondary, as well. The simple background checks ordered by the TA of all
    employees at the JTDC were ordered to assist in implementing this public policy of
    protection of minors, especially after the allegations of child abuse were made in a federal
    lawsuit.
    ¶ 48       The ILRB decision is, therefore, reversed because it is against the manifest weight of the
    evidence. The entire unfair labor practice claim was based on one piece of inadmissible
    evidence. When the statement is removed from the scales of justice, the employees have no
    weight on their side and, therefore, no case. The decision of the ILRB recounting their factual
    determinations is also contrary to the manifest weight of the evidence. Either with or without
    this evidence, the opposite conclusion is both clear and evident. City of Belvidere v. Illinois
    State Labor Relations Board, 
    181 Ill. 2d 191
    , 205 (1998).
    ¶ 49       We make one final point, as it speaks to the genesis of this entire litigation. We note that
    the employees’ attorney argues in his brief that “[t]he ILRB’s remedy of reinstatement with
    backpay is appropriate” because the employee’s “reinstatement in no way endangers children
    at the JTDC because the ILRB’s order requires that both Mitchner and Joseph first submit
    to and pass the CANTS/LEADS checks before they are reinstated.” Simple logic dictates that
    this prerequisite to any implementation of the ILRB’s reinstatement order demonstrates that
    his clients’ refusal to comply with the background checks endangered children at the JTDC
    and such noncompliance could not be tolerated by the TA any more than by the ILRB.
    ¶ 50                                     IV. Conclusion
    ¶ 51       We conclude that where, as here, there exists no admissible evidence to support the
    ILRB’s ruling, that finding cannot be affirmed. We further hold that even if the statement of
    the human resource employee was admissible, that single statement was insufficient to prove
    Cook County acted with antiunion animus in refusing to offer reinstatement to Mitchner
    during a settlement conference and the ILRB’s decision to the contrary is against the manifest
    weight of the evidence. Accordingly, the decision of the Illinois Labor Relations Board is
    reversed.
    ¶ 52       Reversed.
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