Jordin C. Shoda v. State of Indiana ( 2019 )


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  •                                                                               FILED
    Sep 09 2019, 8:58 am
    CLERK
    Indiana Supreme Court
    Court of Appeals
    and Tax Court
    ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT                                     ATTORNEYS FOR APPELLEE
    Robert W. Gevers II                                        Curtis T. Hill, Jr.
    Fort Wayne, Indiana                                        Attorney General of Indiana
    Ian McLean
    Supervising Deputy Attorney
    General
    Indianapolis, Indiana
    IN THE
    COURT OF APPEALS OF INDIANA
    Jordin C. Shoda,                                           September 9, 2019
    Appellant-Defendant,                                       Court of Appeals Case No.
    18A-CR-2279
    v.                                                 Appeal from the Whitley Circuit
    Court
    State of Indiana,                                          The Honorable Matthew J.
    Appellee-Plaintiff.                                        Rentschler, Judge
    Trial Court Cause No.
    92C01-1707-F1-89
    Mathias, Judge.
    [1]   Following a jury trial in Whitley Circuit Court, Jordin C. Shoda (“Shoda”) was
    convicted of two counts of Level 1 felony child molesting and one count of
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    Level 4 felony child molesting. Shoda appeals and presents three issues for our
    review, which we restate as:
    I.       Whether the trial court abused its discretion by admitting
    into evidence a video recording of an interview of the
    victim by a forensic examiner;
    II.      Whether the trial court abused its discretion by admitting
    into evidence the testimony of a sexual assault nurse
    regarding statements the victim made to her; and
    III.     Whether the trial court abused its discretion by admitting
    into evidence the testimony of the victim’s therapist
    regarding statements the victim made to her.
    [2]   We affirm.
    Facts and Procedural History
    [3]   The victim in this case, A.E., is the daughter of Shoda and M.E. (“Mother”),
    and was born in May 2011. A.E. lived with Mother and had regular visitation
    with Shoda, who was born in February 1992. Shoda lived in the basement of
    his parents’ home, which was finished and had a bathroom with a bathtub and
    shower. During Memorial Day weekend of 2017, Shoda’s brother was getting
    married, and Mother agreed to let A.E. stay with Shoda so that A.E. could
    attend the wedding and be a member of the wedding party. Mother returned on
    Sunday to pick up A.E., and they went to Mother’s father’s house for Memorial
    Day activities.
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    [4]   On the way home from Mother’s father’s house, A.E. disclosed something to
    Mother, presumably the molestation, that upset Mother. Mother stopped at a
    friend’s house, told her what A.E. had said, and called a child abuse hotline
    operated by the Department of Child Services (“DCS”). The hotline operator
    asked Mother certain questions, then asked Mother to take A.E. to the hospital.
    DCS informed the police of the report, and Whitley County Sheriff’s Deputy
    Detective Bill Brice (“Detective Brice”) requested that the child be taken to the
    Bill Lewis Center for Children (the “Center for Children”) in Fort Wayne to be
    examined. Mother took A.E. to the Center for Children, where A.E. was
    examined by Sexual Assault Nurse Sarah Coburn (“Nurse Coburn”).
    [5]   Nurse Coburn examined A.E. and asked her non-leading questions, including
    “[D]o you know why you are here today,” and “[D]o you have any concerns
    about your body.” Tr. Vol. 3, p. 48. Nurse Coburn noted her interaction with
    A.E. as follows:
    “No one should touch your front.” “When I was taking a shower
    with daddy he put his front in my back and it hurt.” Patient
    points between buttocks to clarify “back.” “I just said it hurt.”
    “Then he said shush your mouth.” Writer asked did this happen
    one time or more than one time. States “More than one time.”
    “It’s happened a bunch.” “Only in the shower.” “Since it flooded
    in our house I have to take showers with daddy.” “He makes me
    touch his front with my hands.” Writer asked how does that feel?
    States “It feels firm.” “Stuff comes out of his front.” “It’s
    greenish-yellow.” “At first he was doing it a bunch and then he
    stopped.” “Then this weekend I had to do it again.” “I told
    mommy.”
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    Ex. Vol., State’s Trial Ex. 3.1 Even though she doubted that there would be any
    remaining DNA evidence, as the molestation had taken place while showering,
    Nurse Coburn took samples for a sexual assault kit per standard procedure.
    [6]   On the day after Memorial Day, May 30, 2017, Detective Brice asked Mother
    to take A.E. to the Center for Children again so that A.E. could be interviewed
    by Detective Lorrie Frieburger (“Detective Frieburger”), who worked at the
    Center for Children as a forensic interviewer. Detective Frieburger spoke with
    A.E. for approximately thirty minutes using the “Child First” protocol, which
    involves non-leading questions. In the video-recorded interview, A.E. told the
    detective that her father had put his “front” into her “back” when they were in
    the shower and that this hurt. Ex. Vol., State’s Trial Ex. 1 at 07:21–07:26,
    08:10.2 A.E. said that this happened “a bunch of times,” 
    id. at 08:12–08:17,
    and
    “every single time” she was with her father. 
    Id. at 25:42–25:45.
    Using diagrams,
    A.E. explained to Detective Frieburger that by “front” she meant her father’s
    genitals, and by “back” she meant her anal area. 
    Id. at 11:00–11:28.
    A.E. stated
    that this caused her pain because Shoda “digs down there really, really, really
    far.” 
    Id. at 26:50–26:53.
    When A.E. complained of the pain, Shoda told her to
    “shush your mouth.” 
    Id. at 17:06–17:22.
    A.E. stated that she had noticed blood
    1
    The quotations apparently indicate A.E.’s words.
    2
    We refer to the time index of the video file itself, not the time code included in the video, which starts at
    16:37:59—apparently the time the interview took place in the twenty-four hour “military” time system. Thus,
    A.E. made the statement regarding her father at seven minutes and twenty-one seconds into the video
    recording, which corresponds to a time of 16:45:21.
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    on the toilet paper after wiping herself following the molestation. A.E. further
    disclosed that her father made her put her mouth and hands on his penis. A.E.
    also told Detective Frieburger that Shoda had started molesting her when she
    was five years old and that he warned her not to tell anyone about what he did
    to her. A.E. said that she informed her mother of what had happened because
    the last time it had occurred, it had been very painful.
    [7]   A.E. later underwent treatment by Nicole Trier (“Trier”), a licensed mental
    health therapist. During her sessions with Trier, A.E. described, in age-
    appropriate language, what appeared to be anal sex with her father.
    [8]   On July 19, 2017, the State charged Shoda with two counts of Level 1 felony
    child molesting and one count of Level 4 felony child molesting. On February
    16, 2018, the State filed a notice of its intent to introduce A.E.’s recorded
    statements to Detective Frieburger under the protected persons statute, Indiana
    Code section 35-37-4-6. The trial court held a protected persons hearing on
    June 28, 2018, at which time the State presented the testimony of several
    witnesses, including Mother, Detective Frieburger, Trier, and A.E. The State
    asked no questions of A.E. at the hearing, but Shoda’s counsel did question
    A.E. The trial court took the matter of the admissibility of A.E.’s recorded
    statement to Detective Frieburger under advisement. On July 3, 2018, Shoda
    filed an objection to the State’s request to offer the video recorded statement
    into evidence under the protected persons statute. Two days later, the trial court
    entered an order concluding that A.E.’s statement was admissible.
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    [9]    A three-day jury trial began on July 17, 2018. Immediately before the trial
    began, Shoda referenced a pre-trial motion in limine that he had filed, stating:
    [W]e filed both a motion and a memorandum of law. And,
    obviously this Court had an extended protect[ed] person hearing,
    we know that the Court has ruled on the um, the admission of
    the video taped statement of A.E. by the forensic interviewer and
    that’s going to come in. Um, at the appropriate time I guess,
    um, I don’t think maybe it’s now, but before the tape is played
    I will want to renew my objection and make a continuing
    objection of that to preserve the record.
    Tr. Vol. 2, pp. 161–62 (emphasis added). After granting Shoda’s motion in
    limine with regard to references to a polygraph examination and prior criminal
    history, the trial court stated:
    And in terms of the statements of the alleged victim in this case,
    the law has provided for the jury to hear the allegations made by
    the child on video. But anything said to anybody outside of that
    video tape, including mother, counselor or anyone else will not
    come into evidence because it constitutes hearsay.
    
    Id. at 163.
    [10]   Despite indicating that he would object to the admission of the video-recorded
    interview, Shoda referenced the recording in his own opening statement:
    We all just heard the cress [sic] of the State’s case will be the
    video tape. That tape will be played, there’s no dispute. You’ll
    hear it in its entirety. The good, the bad, the ugly. By way of
    summary that tape, that was made more than a year ag[o]. Okay?
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    It was made around May 30, 2017. That’s, that’s the day after
    Memorial Day, last year. It’s not too long. It’s maybe a half hour
    or so. A.E. is six (6) years old. She’s uh, she’s verbal. We’ll see
    on tape . . . a cute, adorable little girl. And she says, and she says
    these things happened to her by her dad. To A.E. she has, she
    has two (2) dads in her life. She has her biological father, Jordin
    and she uh, and she also has a stepfather. So questions are, are
    []posed to A.E. to try and clarify it. And she’s also asked about
    the location, right? The location. Where did this happen? My
    words, not her’s you’ll see on the tape. And A.E. tells us, at first
    she [says], it happens at everyone’s house. And then she clarifies
    later on, clarifies and points at the drawings and says, you know
    it’s dad Jordin’s house. Um, she does then disclose a physical
    sexual assault by her dad in the shower, all right. And among
    [the] things she says, as you will hear on the tape, that he put his
    back, or put his front on her back, put his front on her back. And
    the tape does say that it happened every single time she’s there.
    Not sometimes, not this 18 months ago, every, every single time
    she’s there. So when is the last time A.E. was there, all right?
    With Jordin? Let’s start there. There will be no dispute that’s the,
    that’s the weekend before Memorial Day last year. It was that
    Friday through Sunday, okay? And towards the end of this tape,
    the interviewer will confirm from A.E., you’ll hear, that this last
    time, it’s the day she told her mom. It happened that day and it
    hurt. All right? And we’ll find out that day, all right? The day,
    that’s that Sunday. That’s the, that’s May 28, the day before
    Memorial Day. And so, in large part, that’s on the tape. That’s
    what we’re going to hear.
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    Id. at 175
    (emphases added). When the video recording was offered into
    evidence, the record does not indicate that Shoda made any objection.3 See 
    id. at 183–84.
    [11]   Shoda did object on the record, however, when the State offered into evidence
    the notes taken by Nurse Coburn during her examination of A.E. at the Center
    for Children. The trial court overruled the objection, and the notes were
    admitted into evidence. Shoda similarly objected to the admission of the
    statements made by A.E. during her therapy with Trier, which the trial court
    also overruled.
    [12]   At the conclusion of the trial, the jury found Shoda guilty as charged. On
    August 27, 2018, the trial court sentenced Shoda to concurrent terms of forty
    years of incarceration on the Level 1 felony convictions and a concurrent term
    of twelve years on the Level 4 felony conviction. Shoda now appeals.
    Standard of Review
    [13]   All of Shoda’s appellate arguments claim error in the admission of evidence.
    Questions regarding the admission of evidence are left to the sound discretion
    of the trial court, and we review the court’s decision only for an abuse of that
    3
    The transcript reveals that when the prosecuting attorney moved to admit the recording into evidence,
    Shoda’s counsel asked to approach the bench. Tr. Vol. 2, p. 183. The transcript then simply notes that a
    “bench conference” was held, with no indication as to whether the bench conference was recorded and
    transcribed. 
    Id. If Shoda
    did object to the admission of the recording at this bench conference, it is not in the
    transcript.
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    discretion. Shelby v. State, 
    986 N.E.2d 345
    , 359 (Ind. Ct. App. 2013), trans.
    denied. A trial court abuses its discretion if its decision is clearly against the logic
    and effect of the facts and circumstances before the court, or if the court has
    misinterpreted the law. 
    Id. Admission of
    A.E.’s Recorded Statement
    [14]   Shoda first argues that the trial court abused its discretion by admitting into
    evidence Detective Freiburg’s video-recorded interview of A.E. at the Center
    for Children. Shoda contends that the trial court erred in admitting this
    interview under the protected persons statute because A.E.’s non-
    responsiveness to his questioning at the protected persons hearing made her
    effectively unavailable for cross-examination. The State argues that Shoda
    failed to preserve any error in the admission of the video because he failed to
    make a contemporaneous objection when the video was admitted into
    evidence.
    [15]   It is axiomatic that to preserve a claim of evidentiary error for purposes of
    appeal, a defendant must make a contemporaneous objection at the time the
    evidence is introduced. Laird v. State, 
    103 N.E.3d 1171
    , 1175 (Ind. Ct. App.
    2018), trans. denied (citing Brown v. State, 
    929 N.E.2d 204
    , 207 (Ind. 2010)).
    Here, Shoda filed a pretrial objection to the State’s request to offer the video-
    recorded statement into evidence under the protected persons statute. And
    immediately before trial began, Shoda noted his intention to “renew” his
    objection to the admission of the recording and his desire to make a continuing
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    objection in order to “preserve the record.” Tr. Vol. 2, pp. 161–62. But it is well
    settled that pretrial motions do not preserve any error for appeal. Our supreme
    court in Brown reiterated that “[a] contemporaneous objection at the time the
    evidence is introduced at trial is required to preserve the issue for appeal,
    whether or not the appellant has filed a pretrial motion to 
    suppress.” 929 N.E.2d at 207
    (citing Jackson v. State, 
    735 N.E.2d 1146
    , 1152 (Ind. 2000);
    Wagner v. State, 
    474 N.E.2d 476
    , 484 (Ind. 1985)). This rule is no mere
    procedural technicality; instead, its purpose is to allow the trial judge to
    consider the issue in light of any fresh developments and also to correct any
    errors. 
    Laird, 103 N.E.3d at 1175
    (citing 
    Brown, 929 N.E.2d at 207
    ).
    [16]   Here, there is no indication in the transcript that Shoda made a
    contemporaneous objection to the admission of the recording. Shoda even
    referenced the tape in his opening statement, presuming that the tape would be
    admitted into evidence. As noted above, when the State moved to admit the
    recording into evidence, Shoda requested a bench conference, but the contents
    of that conference do not appear to have been recorded or transcribed. Nor did
    Shoda make an objection on the record following the bench conference.
    [17]   We were presented with a similar situation in Delao v. State, 
    940 N.E.2d 849
    (Ind. Ct. App. 2011), trans. denied. In that case, the trial judge informed the
    parties prior to trial that, due to the setup of the courtroom, it was difficult to
    record bench conferences without the jury being able to overhear. The judge
    therefore instructed the parties that, if a bench conference was required, it
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    would probably be necessary to recess and remove the jury from the courtroom
    before making any arguments. During trial, when the State offered several
    audio recordings into evidence, the defendant did not object on the record but
    instead requested to approach the bench. As the trial court had indicated would
    happen, the subsequent bench conference was not recorded. Immediately
    thereafter, the trial court stated for the record that the defendant had objected
    on grounds of relevancy.
    [18]   On appeal, Delao stated that his objection was based on grounds that “key parts
    of the recordings, and the translation of same for the jury, were of sufficiently
    poor quality so as to be confusing and misleading to the jury.” 
    Id. at 852
    (citation and internal quotation marks omitted). We declined Delao’s offer to
    speculate about what the specific basis of his objections had been and held that
    Delao had failed to properly preserve his claim of evidentiary error. 
    Id. We noted
    that “‘the appellant carries the burden of presenting a record for
    sustaining his argument.’” 
    Id. (quoting House
    v. State, 
    535 N.E.2d 103
    , 109 (Ind.
    1989)). In support of our decision, we cited House, a case in which our supreme
    court held that an objection made during an unrecorded sidebar conference was
    not preserved and that the defendant should have corrected any deficiency in
    the record according to the appellate rule allowing for reconstruction of
    allegedly missing portions of the 
    transcript. 535 N.E.2d at 109
    ; see also Ind.
    Appellate Rule 31 (setting forth the procedure for making a statement of the
    evidence when no transcript of all or part of the evidence is available).
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    [19]   Following our holding in Delao, we conclude that Shoda has failed to preserve
    any claim of error because he failed to make a contemporaneous objection nor
    has he presented us with a record sufficient to demonstrate that he did preserve
    his claim of error. But see Kien v. State, 
    782 N.E.2d 398
    , 406 (Ind. Ct. App.
    2003), trans. denied (noting that the lack of a record justifies giving the appellant
    the benefit of the doubt in speculating about what may have been discussed
    during any unrecorded sidebar conference) (citing Ben-Yisrayl v. State, 
    753 N.E.2d 649
    , 661 (Ind. 2001)).
    [20]   Even if we were to consider Shoda’s claim on the merits, he would not prevail.
    Indiana Code section 35-37-4-6, known as the “protected person statute,”
    provides a list of certain conditions under which evidence that would otherwise
    be inadmissible will be allowed in cases involving certain crimes against
    “protected persons.” J.A. v. State, 
    904 N.E.2d 250
    , 255 (Ind. Ct. App. 2009),
    trans. denied. Among the crimes to which the protected person statute applies
    are sex crimes under Indiana Code chapter 35-42-4, which includes child
    molesting.4 
    Id. at 255
    n.4. A “protected person” is defined to include “a child
    who is less than fourteen (14) years of age.” I.C. § 35-37-4-6(c)(1).
    [21]   Subsection (d) of the protected person statute provides that
    A statement or videotape that:
    4
    See Ind. Code § 35-42-4-3 (defining the crime of child molesting).
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    (1) is made by a person who at the time of trial is a protected
    person;
    (2) concerns an act that is a material element of [a listed group
    of offenses that includes child molesting] that was allegedly
    committed against the person; and
    (3) is not otherwise admissible into evidence;
    is admissible in evidence in a criminal action for [a listed group
    of offenses that includes child molesting] if the requirements of
    subsection (e)5 are met.
    I.C. § 35-37-4-6(d).
    5
    Subsection (e) of the protected persons statute provides:
    A statement or videotape described in subsection (d) is admissible in evidence in a criminal
    action listed in subsection (a) or (b) if, after notice to the defendant of a hearing and of the
    defendant’s right to be present, all of the following conditions are met:
    (1) The court finds, in a hearing:
    (A) conducted outside the presence of the jury; and
    (B) attended by the protected person in person or by using closed circuit television
    testimony as described in section 8(f) and 8(g) of this chapter;
    that the time, content, and circumstances of the statement or videotape provide
    sufficient indications of reliability.
    (2) The protected person:
    (A) testifies at the trial; or
    (B) is found by the court to be unavailable as a witness for one (1) of the following
    reasons:
    (i) From the testimony of a psychiatrist, physician, or psychologist, and other
    evidence, if any, the court finds that the protected person’s testifying in the
    physical presence of the defendant will cause the protected person to suffer
    serious emotional distress such that the protected person cannot reasonably
    communicate.
    (ii) The protected person cannot participate in the trial for medical reasons.
    (iii) The court has determined that the protected person is incapable of
    understanding the nature and obligation of an oath.
    I.C. § 35-37-4-6(e). Shoda makes no argument that the requirements of subsection (e) were not met.
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    [22]   Subsection (f) of the protected persons statute, which is at issue here, provides:
    If a protected person is unavailable to testify at the trial for a
    reason listed in subsection (e)(2)(B), a statement or videotape
    may be admitted in evidence under this section only if the
    protected person was available for cross-examination:
    (1) at the hearing described in subsection (e)(1); or
    (2) when the statement or videotape was made.
    I.C. § 35-37-4-6(f) (emphasis added). Thus, before a recorded statement by a
    protected person may be admitted into evidence at trial, the protected person
    must have been available for cross-examination either when the statement or
    video was made or at the protected persons hearing.
    [23]   In the present case, A.E. was not subject to cross-examination at the time the
    video was made. But she was present and subject to cross-examination at the
    protected persons hearing. Shoda claims, however, that A.E. was effectively
    unavailable for cross-examination because she “shut down” and would not
    answer questions regarding her father or any inappropriate touching.
    Appellant’s Br. at 13. We disagree with this characterization of A.E.’s
    testimony at the protected persons hearing.
    [24]   After asking some preliminary questions about A.E.’s family and school,
    Shoda’s counsel and A.E. engaged in the following exchange:
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    Q.       All right A.E. A.E. we talked about this when we met last
    time. I want to make sure I understand you. Are there, are
    there parts on our body where no one should touch us?
    You have to answer out loud. Is that a yes?
    A.       Yes.
    Q.       Okay. What do you, what do you call those parts?
    A.       I don’t know.
    Q.       Do you like to swim?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       All right. And when you go swimming, you wear a
    swimsuit?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       Yeah. Of course you do. And those swimsuit, that
    swimsuit that covers, covers up your private parts, right? Is
    that a yes?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       Yes. Should, no[]one should touch our swimsuit parts,
    right? No[]one should touch underneath our swimsuits,
    correct?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       Is that yes?
    A.       Yeah.
    Q.       All right. Has anyone touched you under your swimsuit
    parts? It’s okay to answer it. Has anyone touched you
    underneath swimsuit parts? (Inaudible) under your
    swimsuit? A.E. [your] dad’s name is Jordin, right? Has
    Jordin ever touched under your swimsuit parts? A.E.
    you know, you know the difference right, you’re seven
    (7) years old, you’re almost as old as me. You gave
    (inaudible) when I told (inaudible) didn’t you? You
    thought that was really funny, do you remember
    (inaudible)? Did you (inaudible).
    A.       What?
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    Q.       How old do you think I was?
    A.       50?
    Q.       50, gosh good for you. Very good. Um, do you know the
    difference between a good touch and bad touch? Yeah? All
    right. Well if you’re mom gives you a hug and kiss?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       Is that a good touch or a bad touch? Let me ask you
    another question. I’m sorry? What did you say? Did you
    say something?
    Q.       Uh, uh (negative answer).
    A.       No? If the dog, all right, if a dog bites your leg?
    A.       Hm, hm (affirmative answer).
    Q.       Bites on your leg and hurts you. Is that a good touch or a
    bad touch?
    Tr. Vol. 2, pp. 148–50 (emphasis added). A bench conference was then held,
    after which Shoda’s counsel asked A.E. regarding pictures she had drawn.
    [25]   As the above-emphasized portion of this exchange indicates, it appears as if
    A.E. simply didn’t understand the questions asked of her. When she responded
    by asking “What?” Shoda simply switched his line of questioning and never
    revisited the questions regarding the touching. Nor did he ask the trial court to
    emphasize to A.E. that she needed to answer Shoda’s questions as best she
    could. We are therefore unable to conclude that Shoda has established that
    A.E. was truly unavailable for cross-examination.
    [26]   We rejected a similar argument in Perryman v. State, 
    80 N.E.3d 234
    (Ind. Ct.
    App. 2017). In Perryman, the defendant was convicted of battery and neglect of
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    his girlfriend’s eight-year-old son. At Perryman’s trial, the trial court had
    admitted a recorded interview with the child after holding a protected persons
    hearing at which the child was subject to cross-examination. On appeal,
    Perryman argued inter alia that the admission of the child’s recorded statement
    under the protected persons statute was unconstitutional because the child’s
    alleged inability to provide “any coherent and meaningful testimony about the
    cause of his injuries” at the protected persons hearing denied Perryman the
    opportunity for “full, adequate, and effective cross examination.” 
    Id. at 246
    (citations and internal quotation marks omitted).
    [27]   In rejecting Perryman’s argument, we noted that “[w]hether the opportunity
    was full and fair is an inquiry into whether the state or the trial court
    impermissibly limited a defendant's cross-examination of the witnesses against
    him, not an inquiry into the mental faculties of those witnesses or the character
    of their testimony.” 
    Id. Even a
    witness’s lapses of memory do not constitute a
    deprivation of the right to cross-examine. 
    Id. (citing Delaware
    v. Fensterer, 
    474 U.S. 15
    , 19 (1985) (“It does not follow [from the requirement that a defendant
    be allowed the opportunity to impeach a witness on cross-examination] that the
    right to cross-examine is denied by the State whenever the witness’[s] lapse of
    memory impedes one method of discrediting him.”)). As explained by the
    United States Supreme Court:
    The Confrontation Clause guarantees only an opportunity for
    effective cross-examination, not cross-examination that is
    effective in whatever way, and to whatever extent, the defense
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    might wish. . . . It is sufficient that the defendant has the
    opportunity to bring out such matters as the witness’ bias, his
    lack of care and attentiveness, his poor eyesight, and even (what
    is often a prime objective of cross-examination) the very fact that
    he has a bad memory. . . . The weapons available to impugn the
    witness’[s] statement when memory loss is asserted will of course
    not always achieve success, but successful cross-examination is
    not the constitutional guarantee.
    United States v. Owens, 
    484 U.S. 554
    , 559–60 (1988) (quoted in 
    Perryman, 80 N.E.3d at 246
    –47); see also Fowler v. State, 
    829 N.E.2d 459
    , 466 (Ind. 2005)
    (holding that a defendant cannot claim a denial of the opportunity for cross-
    examination by a recalcitrant trial witness’s refusal to answer unless the
    defendant seeks to compel testimony), abrogated in part on other grounds by Giles v.
    California, 
    554 U.S. 353
    (2008).
    [28]   Two decisions of this court have held that there was an unconstitutional
    frustration of the opportunity for cross-examination in the context of the
    protected persons statute, and both involved the trial court finding that the
    protected person was unavailable due to his or her incapability of understanding
    the nature and obligation of an oath, not simply because of lapsed memory or
    non-responsiveness. 
    Perryman, 80 N.E.3d at 247
    (citing Anderson v. State, 
    833 N.E.2d 119
    , 126 (Ind. Ct. App. 2005); Purvis v. State, 
    829 N.E.2d 572
    , 581 (Ind.
    Ct. App. 2005), trans. denied). These cases are inapplicable here, because the
    trial court found that A.E. was capable of distinguishing truth from falsehood.
    See 
    Perryman, 80 N.E.3d at 247
    (distinguishing Anderson and Purvis because the
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    witness was not found incapable of understanding the nature of his oath and
    instead affirmatively demonstrated his capacity to distinguish truth from
    falsehood and to appreciate the importance of that distinction); see also Pierce v.
    State, 
    677 N.E.2d 39
    , 48 (Ind. 1997) (holding that child witness was available
    for cross-examination where she was on the witness stand during the protected
    persons hearing, the court did nothing to prevent the defense from questioning
    her, yet the defense conducted no actual cross-examination).
    [29]   In summary, Shoda was not deprived of his right to confrontation simply
    because A.E. did not understand some of the questions put to her on cross-
    examination at the protected persons hearing. Neither the State nor the trial
    court did anything to impair Shoda’s ability to cross-examine A.E. Moreover,
    any lapses in A.E.’s memory or her unresponsiveness did not amount to a
    denial of the right to cross-examine. See 
    id. Therefore, the
    trial court did not
    abuse its discretion by admitting A.E.’s statements into evidence under the
    protected persons statute.
    A.E.’s Statement to Nurse Coburn
    [30]   Shoda next argues that the trial court abused its discretion by admitting into
    evidence Nurse Coburn’s notes and testimony regarding what A.E. told her
    during the sexual assault examination. Shoda claims that the admission of this
    evidence was improper for a variety of reasons.
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    [31]   He first contends that the admission of Nurse Coburn’s notes and testimony
    regarding what A.E. told her was improper because the State failed to comply
    with the notice provisions of the protected persons statute. Subsection (g) of the
    statute provides that a protected person’s statement may not be admitted into
    evidence under the statute “unless the prosecuting attorney informs the
    defendant and the defendant’s attorney at least ten (10) days before the trial of:
    (1) the prosecuting attorney’s intention to introduce the statement or videotape
    in evidence; and (2) the content of the statement or videotape.” I.C. § 35-37-4-
    6(g).
    [32]   However, Shoda made no such objection at trial. Instead, he based his
    objection on grounds that the State had not met the requirements of Indiana
    Evidence Rule 803(4). Specifically, his counsel stated:
    We object your Honor, we do not believe that the foundational
    requirements had been met under the, under the Indiana trial
    rules of evidence. Um, specifically 803(4). Um, and that the two
    (2) prongs, the first prong of that test with respect to whether the
    declarant was motivated by truthful information for treatment
    and diagnosis, I don’t believe there is a sufficient foundation.
    Um, and it would be impermissible hearsay.
    Tr. Vol. 3, p. 51. “A party may not object to the admission of evidence on one
    ground at trial and seek reversal on appeal based on a different ground.” Casady
    v. State, 
    934 N.E.2d 1181
    , 1191 (Ind. Ct. App. 2010) (citing Malone v. State, 700
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    30 N.E.2d 780
    , 784 (Ind. 1998)), trans. denied. By not raising this objection at trial,
    Shoda has waived it for purposes of appeal.
    [33]   Waiver notwithstanding,6 Shoda’s argument is misplaced. The protected
    persons statute is applicable when evidence is otherwise inadmissible. That is, it
    permits, under certain circumstances, the admission of otherwise inadmissible
    evidence. See I.C. § 35-37-4-6(d) (providing that a statement or videotape made
    by a protected person and concerning an act that is a material element of a
    listed offense and “is not otherwise admissible in evidence” is admissible if the
    requirements of subsection (e) are met); see also Tyler v. State, 
    903 N.E.2d 463
    ,
    465 (Ind. 2009) (noting that the protected persons statute allows for the
    admission of otherwise inadmissible hearsay). The implication of this is that if
    the hearsay is admissible through the rules of evidence, the protected persons
    statute is inapplicable. See Coomer v. State, 
    575 N.E.2d 683
    , 685 (Ind. Ct. App.
    1991) (holding that protected persons statute was inapplicable where child’s
    prior testimony was admissible under exception to the hearsay rule). Because
    we conclude infra that A.E.’s statements were admissible under the exception to
    the hearsay rule in Evidence Rule 803(4), Shoda’s argument regarding the
    protected persons statute are misplaced.
    [34]   Shoda also argues that A.E.’s statements to Nurse Coburn do not meet the
    requirements for admissibility under Evidence Rule 803(4), which provides that
    6
    Shoda makes no argument of fundamental error regarding the admission of this evidence.
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    a statement is not excluded by the hearsay rule, “regardless of whether the
    declarant is available as a witness,” if the statement:
    (A) is made by a person seeking medical diagnosis or treatment;
    (B) is made for—and is reasonably pertinent to—medical
    diagnosis or treatment; and
    (C) describes medical history; past or present symptoms, pain or
    sensations; their inception; or their general cause.
    [35]   This medical treatment or diagnosis exception is “‘based upon the belief that a
    declarant’s self-interest in seeking medical treatment renders it unlikely that the
    declarant would mislead the medical personnel [] she wants to treat her.’”
    Ramsey v. State, 
    122 N.E.3d 1023
    , 1030 (Ind. Ct. App. 2019), trans. denied
    (quoting Palilonis v. State, 
    970 N.E.2d 713
    , 726 (Ind. Ct. App. 2012), trans.
    denied). “In order to satisfy the requirement of the declarant’s motivation, the
    declarant must subjectively believe that he or she was making the statement for
    the purpose of receiving medical diagnosis or treatment.” 
    Id. at 1031
    (citing 13
    Robert Lowell Miller Jr., Indiana Practice: Indiana Evidence § 803.104 at 312 (4th
    ed. 2018)). As we explained in Ramsey:
    There is a two-step analysis for determining whether a statement
    is properly admitted under Indiana Evidence Rule 803(4): “(1)
    whether the declarant is motivated to provide truthful
    information in order to promote diagnosis and treatment; and (2)
    whether the content of the statement is such that an expert in the
    field would reasonably rely upon it in rendering diagnosis or
    treatment.”
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    Id. (quoting Palilonis,
    970 N.E.2d at 726).
    [36]   “Statements made by victims of sexual . . . molestation about the nature of the .
    . . abuse—even those identifying the perpetrator—generally satisfy the second
    prong of the analysis because they assist medical providers in recommending
    potential treatment for sexually transmitted disease, pregnancy testing,
    psychological counseling, and discharge instructions.” VanPatten v. State, 
    986 N.E.2d 255
    , 260 (Ind. 2013) (citing 
    Palilonis, 970 N.E.2d at 726
    –27).
    [37]   The first prong—regarding the declarant’s motivation—can generally be
    inferred from the fact a victim sought medical treatment. Walters v. State, 
    68 N.E.3d 1097
    , 1100 (Ind. Ct. App. 2017) (citing 
    VanPatten, 986 N.E.2d at 260
    –
    61), trans. denied. However, when young children are brought to a medical
    provider by their parents, the inference of the child’s motivation may be less
    than obvious, as the child may not understand the purpose of the examiner or
    the relationship between truthful responses and accurate medical treatment. 
    Id. at 1100–01
    (citing 
    VanPatten, 986 N.E.2d at 260
    –61). In such situations,
    “evidence must be presented to show the child understood the medical
    professional’s role and the importance of being truthful.” 
    Id. at 1101.
    “Such
    evidence may be presented ‘in the form of foundational testimony from the
    medical professional detailing the interaction between [her] and the declarant,
    how [she] explained [her] role to the declarant, and an affirmation that the
    declarant understood that role.’” 
    Id. (quoting VanPatten,
    986 N.E.2d at 261)
    (alterations in Walters).
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    [38]   In VanPatten, our supreme court held that the State had not established that the
    six-year-old victims understood the importance of telling the nurse the truth in
    order to get accurate medical treatment. 
    VanPatten, 986 N.E.2d at 265
    . The
    nurse had observed the police interviews, the medical examination had been
    directly preceded by extensive interviews at the DCS, and the children
    themselves did not testify that they had understood the nurse’s role. 
    Id. at 266.
    Moreover, the nurse was unable to testify regarding what she said to the
    victims, how they responded, and if they understood the situation. 
    Id. at 266–
    67; see also 
    Walters, 68 N.E.3d at 1101
    (summarizing VanPatten).
    [39]   Shoda claims that here, as in VanPatten, the State failed to establish that A.E.
    understood the importance of telling the truth to Nurse Coburn in order to get
    accurate medical treatment. We disagree.
    [40]   Here, A.E. had not been forensically examined by the police or a therapist prior
    to her statements to Nurse Coburn. Instead, she was given a sexual assault
    examination immediately after disclosing the molestation. Cf. 
    VanPatten, 986 N.E.2d at 265
    (noting that a prior forensic interview by DCS “mudd[ied] the
    issue of whether the underlying motivation even from their parents was to seek
    medical treatment for their children or to assist the police in their
    investigation.”). Nor did Nurse Coburn observe any prior forensic interview of
    A.E. before her interaction with A.E. Cf. 
    id. (noting that
    nurse’s admission that
    she observed prior DCS interview before she spoke with the victims “rais[ed]
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    the concern that [the nurse’s] questioning may have steered the answers to
    support the allegations brought up in the interview.”).
    [41]   We agree with the State that A.E.’s experience was similar to that of any child
    taken to see medical personnel after disclosing an injury. Mother testified at the
    protected persons hearing7 that the medical staff at the Center for Children
    explained to A.E. that “they were going to take [A.E.] back to the appointment
    area, doctor’s office.” Tr. Vol. 2., p. 13.
    [42]   In VanPatten, the examining nurse testified as to what her standard procedures
    were but did not record this in the report used to refresh her memory at trial.
    This, the court held, “undercut” the court’s ability to infer that the children
    were motivated to respond truthfully to the nurse’s questions because they
    understood her professional role. 
    VanPatten, 986 N.E.2d at 266
    .
    [43]   Here, Nurse Coburn testified as to her usual practice:
    I do explain to children that I’m a nurse and that it’s my job to
    make sure that their body’s okay. I do explain that I will be
    taking a look at their body at the top of their head all the way
    down to their toes, but that I won’t do anything without their
    permission. I also ask the child if they understand what a nurse
    does.
    7
    As noted by the State, a trial court may consider evidence from a pre-trial hearing when ruling on the
    admissibility of evidence at trial. Kelley v. State, 
    825 N.E.2d 420
    , 426 (Ind. Ct. App. 2005).
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    Tr. Vol. 3, p. 47. And, in contrast to the nurse in VanPatten, Nurse Coburn’s
    usual practices were recorded in her report. Specifically, she indicated in her
    report how she explained the role of a nurse and the examination to A.E. and
    discussed why nurses need to know what happened for purposes of medical
    treatment. Ex. Vol., State’s Trial Ex. 3. Nurse Coburn also indicated in her
    report that A.E. understood Coburn’s role as a nurse and the purpose of the
    examination and treatment. 
    Id. Specifically A.E.
    indicated her understanding
    by saying, “Nurses check you for strep throat.” 
    Id. Thus, even
    though Nurse
    Coburn could not recall the exact words she spoke to A.E., her standard
    procedure, confirmed by her contemporaneous notes, sufficiently establish that
    she explained to A.E. her role as a nurse and that A.E. understood that her
    statements to Nurse Coburn were for the purpose of medical treatment.
    [44]   The trial court could reasonably conclude from these facts and circumstances
    that A.E. was motivated to provide truthful information to Nurse Coburn to
    promote medical diagnosis and treatment. Thus, we are unable to say that the
    trial court abused its discretion in concluding that A.E.’s out-of-court
    statements to Nurse Coburn were admissible under the exception to the hearsay
    rule contained in Evidence Rule 803(4). See 
    Walters, 68 N.E.3d at 1101
    (holding
    that trial court did not abuse its discretion by admitting evidence of child
    victim’s statement to nurse where nurse had not attended any previous
    interview with the child, the physical examination took place on a different day
    than the forensic interviews, the nurse was able to recall how she explained her
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    role to the child, and the interview took place in a building similar to a doctor’s
    office separate from law enforcement agencies); Cooper v. State, 
    714 N.E.2d 689
    ,
    694 (Ind. Ct. App. 1999) (holding that trial court did not abuse its discretion by
    admitting evidence of child’s out-of-court statement to nurse where child knew
    that she was in the emergency room for an examination due to her having been
    molested and where child understood the professional role of the nurse and
    doctor who examined her, triggering the motivation to provide truthful
    information), trans. denied.
    A.E.’s Statements to Her Therapist
    [45]   Lastly, Shoda argues that the trial court abused its discretion by admitting
    evidence of A.E.’s out-of-court statements to her therapist, Trier. He first
    claims, as he did with regard to A.E.’s statement to Nurse Coburn, that this
    evidence was inadmissible because the State failed to give the required notice
    under the protected persons statute. Yet again, however, there is no indication
    in the record that Shoda objected on these grounds at trial. This argument is
    therefore waived for purposes of appeal. See 
    Casady, 934 N.E.2d at 1191
    (citing
    
    Malone, 700 N.E.2d at 784
    ). And again, the purpose of the protected persons
    statute is to allow, under certain circumstances, evidence that is otherwise
    inadmissible under the Rules of Evidence. Thus, if A.E.’s statements to Trier are
    admissible under Evidence Rule 803(4), the protected persons statute is
    inapplicable. See 
    Tyler, 903 N.E.2d at 465
    ; 
    Coomer, 575 N.E.2d at 685
    .
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    [46]   Shoda also argues that A.E.’s statements to Trier did not meet the foundational
    requirements of Evidence Rule 803(4). In support of his argument, he relies on
    the decision of our supreme court in McClain v. State, 
    675 N.E.2d 329
    (Ind.
    1996). In that case, the trial court had permitted a family therapist to testify that
    the victim had told her that “someone had put their mouth on, I believe his
    term the first time was, his private part.” 
    Id. at 330
    (citation omitted). On
    appeal, the defendant argued that this statement did not fall within the ambit of
    Evidence Rule 803(4).
    [47]   The McClain court noted that, in order to qualify as a statement made to
    promote diagnosis or treatment, “there must be evidence that the declarant
    understood the professional’s role in order to trigger the motivation to provide
    truthful information.” 
    Id. (citing United
    States v. Barrett, 
    8 F.3d 1296
    , 1300 (8th
    Cir. 1993). In McClain, there was no such evidence. Specifically, there was no
    evidence that the victim sought the therapist’s help or believed that he was
    receiving any treatment. Instead, the child victim testified that the therapist was
    his “counselor” and that he talked to her about what McClain had done to him.
    
    Id. Accordingly, the
    court held that “the record is devoid of any evidence
    showing that the victim understood that he was speaking to a trained
    professional for the purposes of obtaining diagnosis of, or providing treatment
    for, emotional or psychological injuries.” 
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    [48]   Here, however, there is evidence indicating that A.E. knew that she was
    speaking to a trained professional for the purpose of obtaining treatment. Trier
    testified that she explained to A.E. why they were meeting:
    I explained to her that I was a play therapist and I often when
    bad, sad or scary things happen with kids, that it feels good to
    talk about that with, with someone who is trained to talk about
    those things. And we share a book, that’s part of that trauma
    curriculum, that explains what play therapy is, showed her
    around the room and encouraged her that this was a place that
    was safe to talk about anything that she wanted to talk about.
    Tr. Vol. 3, p. 78. Trier also explained to A.E. the purpose of “what we do” and
    explained mental health to her. 
    Id. at 80.
    A.E. appeared to understand the
    therapeutic purpose behind her interaction with Trier. See 
    id. at 79
    (Trier
    agreeing that A.E. understood “the therapeutic purpose behind what [Trier]
    was doing.”).
    [49]   Because there was evidence that A.E. understood that she was speaking with
    Trier for the purpose of obtaining treatment for her psychological or emotional
    trauma, we cannot say that the trial court abused its discretion by concluding
    that A.E.’s statements to Trier were made for and pertinent to medical
    treatment. See In re A.F., 
    69 N.E.3d 932
    , 948 (Ind. Ct. App. 2017) (holding that
    trial court did not abuse its discretion by admitting evidence of child’s out-of-
    court statement to therapist where the record established that the child
    understood that she was someplace safe, the therapist explained that therapy
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    was a means by which the child could work to solve problems, and that the
    therapist was there to help her), trans. denied. Accordingly, the trial court did not
    abuse its discretion by admitting Trier’s testimony recounting A.E.’s statements
    regarding Shoda’s molestation during the therapy sessions.8
    Conclusion
    [50]   The trial court did not abuse its discretion by concluding that A.E.’s statements
    during the forensic interview were admissible under the protected persons
    statute, because A.E. was available for cross-examination at the protected
    persons hearing. Nor did the trial court abuse its discretion in the admission of
    A.E.’s statements to Nurse Coburn or to her therapist, Trier, as those
    statements fell within the exception to the hearsay rule for statements made for
    the purpose of medical diagnosis or treatment. Accordingly, we affirm the
    judgment of the trial court.9
    [51]   Affirmed.
    May, J., and Brown, J., concur.
    8
    Although Shoda also claims that the trial court erred by admitting a picture drawn by A.E. during her
    therapy with Trier, he does not fully develop this argument, and we therefore consider it waived.
    9
    Because we reject Shoda’s claim that the admission of this evidence was improper, we need not address his
    argument that any error was not harmless.
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