State of Iowa v. Marc Aaron Hanslip ( 2019 )


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  •                     IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF IOWA
    No. 17-1472
    Filed January 9, 2019
    STATE OF IOWA,
    Plaintiff-Appellee,
    vs.
    MARC AARON HANSLIP,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    ________________________________________________________________
    Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Woodbury County, Duane E.
    Hoffmeyer, Judge.
    The defendant appeals his convictions for being a felon in possession of a
    firearm and possession of an offensive weapon, both enhanced by the defendant’s
    status as an habitual offender. AFFIRMED.
    Rees Conrad Douglas, Sioux City, for appellant.
    Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, and Tyler J. Buller, Assistant Attorney
    General, for appellee.
    Considered by Vogel, P.J., McDonald, J., and Blane, S.J.*
    *Senior judge assigned by order pursuant to Iowa Code section 602.9206 (2019).
    2
    BLANE, Senior Judge.
    Marc Aaron Hanslip appeals his convictions for being a felon in possession
    of a firearm and possession of an offensive weapon, both enhanced by the
    defendant’s status as an habitual offender. He contends the trial court erred in
    overruling his hearsay objections at trial and in denying his counsel’s motion to
    withdraw from representation due to an alleged conflict of interest. On our review,
    we find the trial court did not err and affirm the convictions.
    I. Factual background.
    On the afternoon of March 17, 2017, a man later identified as Thaddeus
    Keefer called Sioux City police to report there was a man carrying a shotgun,
    wearing a blue hat and blue shirt, pounding on the door to his residence.1 Within
    minutes, police responded to the residence and saw two men and a woman
    standing near a silver, four-door Chevrolet Impala parked in front of the residence.2
    One of the men was Marc Hanslip. He was wearing a blue hat and blue shirt. A
    police officer described Hanslip as wearing “all blue.”
    Two officers went to the residence and spoke with Keefer about his call to
    911. He was “very fearful” and “[d]idn’t want to show his face in public.” As one
    officer testified, Keefer “was definitely scared for that particular moment in time.”
    He was “very hesitant,” “stuttering,” “looking over his shoulder,” and “very excited.”
    As another officer testified, “[The man] was very excited. Pacing around. Kept
    making sure that nobody could see him talking to [the officers]. Fidgeting a lot.
    Very erratic behavior.” “Before he had a chance to calm down,” Keefer told officers
    1
    At the time of trial, Keefer could not be located to testify.
    2
    The woman was later identified as Stephanie Chavez.
    3
    he was afraid of the man with the shotgun and did not want to let him inside the
    house.
    At trial, Hanslip objected based on hearsay to the officers testifying to what
    Keefer told them, since the State did not produce Keefer at trial. The court
    overruled the objections based on the excited utterance exception urged by the
    prosecutor as well as “existing physical state or presence as exceptions.”3 The
    officer was then permitted to answer, “While [he] was still upset and in an excited
    condition,” Keefer told officers the shotgun was “smaller” and had “white tape
    wrapped around . . . where you would hold the shotgun at.” Keefer identified the
    man in blue—Hanslip—as the man with the shotgun.
    While officers were talking to Keefer, other officers also approached the
    three persons by the Impala. They obtained a written consent to search the Impala
    from Ms. Chavez.4 Officers observed a large box of shotgun shells in plain view
    on top of three bags in the back seat. Officers then decided to obtain a search
    warrant to further search the vehicle and the bags. Once the search warrant was
    obtained, they seized and later searched the three bags at the police station.
    Inside one of the bags, officers found Hanslip’s social security card, his wallet, and
    a small-barreled shotgun with white tape on the handle as described by Keefer.
    The barrel of the shotgun measured fourteen and seven-eighths inches long. At
    the time, Hanslip admitted to the officers that the bags and the shotgun were his.
    3
    See Iowa R. Evid. 5.803(3). The State on appeal does not advance the “then existing
    physical state or condition” exception in Iowa Rule of Evidence 5.803(3) as supporting the
    admission of this testimony.
    4
    The Chevrolet Impala was registered to Ms. Chavez’s mother.
    4
    But at trial, Hanslip testified that he had lied to police about the shotgun and denied
    ownership and possession.
    II.      Procedural background.
    On March 22, 2017, the county attorney filed a supplemental trial
    information charging Hanslip in count I with being a felon in possession of a
    firearm, in violation of Iowa Code section 724.26(1) (2017); in count II, possession
    of an offensive weapon, in violation of section 724.3; and count III, possession of
    a controlled substance, in violation of section 124.401(5). The county attorney also
    filed a trial information alleging an habitual-offender enhancement applied to
    counts I and II, under section 902.8. On July 20, Hanslip through his counsel filed
    a written guilty plea to count III, possession of a controlled substance. Trial on the
    other two charges was set for July 25.
    On July 24, defense counsel filed a motion to withdraw as Hanslip’s
    attorney. The motion asserted that the prosecutor had notified defense counsel
    the same day of an intent to call Stephanie Chavez as a rebuttal witness if Hanslip
    testified.5 The motion was based on Chavez being represented by an attorney
    from the same public defender office as Hanslip’s attorney, although her charges
    did not arise out of the events and were not related to the charges Hanslip faced.
    Hanslip’s attorney asserted that a conflict existed under Iowa Rules of Professional
    Conduct 32:1.7 and 32:1.10. Hanslip’s counsel argued the remedy to the potential
    conflict was to prohibit the State from calling Chavez as a rebuttal witness. Hanslip
    5
    The notice also included Adam Harding, the other person who was with Marc Hanslip
    and Stephanie Chavez. He was not represented by the public defender office so he is not
    pertinent to the conflict issue.
    5
    also refused to further waive his right to speedy trial. The court held what is
    sometimes referred to as a Watson6 hearing on July 24 and, immediately following
    the hearing, ordered the public defender representing Chavez be removed from
    representing her and Hanslip’s attorney to have no contact with Chavez’s file in
    the public defender office. The court rejected Hanslip’s counsel’s alternative to bar
    the State from calling Chavez in rebuttal.
    On July 25, trial commenced and Hanslip stipulated to the prior convictions
    that supported the habitual-offender enhancements.          During the trial, before
    Hanslip testified, counsel again raised the conflict issue, renewed the motion to
    withdraw, and again asserted the issue be resolved by barring the State from
    calling Chavez as a rebuttal witness. The court denied the renewed motion and
    reaffirmed its earlier ruling. Hanslip testified and denied ownership or possession
    of the shotgun. Chavez testified in rebuttal, where the State asked just four
    questions. When asked whether the shotgun was hers, she answered, “No, it is
    not.”
    On July 26, the jury found Hanslip guilty of felon in possession of a firearm
    and possession of an offensive weapon. On August 4, Hanslip’s counsel filed
    motions in arrest of judgment and for new trial, raising the hearsay rulings and the
    attorney conflict or withdrawal issue. On September 6, the court issued its ruling
    and denied the post-trial motions. The court later sentenced Hanslip as an habitual
    offender on counts I and II to two concurrent terms of fifteen years and on count III
    to seven days with credit for time served. Hanslip timely filed his notice of appeal.
    6
    See State v. Watson, 
    620 N.W.2d 233
    (Iowa 2000).
    6
    III.      Discussion.
    A. Whether the district court erred in overruling defense counsel’s hearsay
    objections based on the excited utterance exception.
    Standard of Review. There is a question as to what standard of review
    applies. Our supreme court has said, “We review hearsay rulings for correction of
    errors at law and will reverse the admission of hearsay evidence as prejudicial
    unless the contrary is shown. We review all other evidentiary rulings for an abuse
    of discretion.”    State v. Dudley, 
    856 N.W.2d 668
    , 675 (Iowa 2014) (citations
    omitted). But in Dudley, when specifically discussing the admissibility of an excited
    utterance, the supreme court stated, “We review the admissibility of an excited
    utterance for an abuse of discretion.” 
    Id. at 680.
    Since excited utterance is an
    exception to excluding hearsay testimony, it is unclear why there is a difference in
    the standard of review. The supreme court mentioning both standards of review
    in Dudley as applying to the hearsay/excited utterance admissibility issue that we
    must address in this appeal leaves room for confusion. Yet, in subsequent cases,
    the supreme court has applied the rule that hearsay rulings—including whether a
    statement falls within an exception to the hearsay rule—are reviewed for correction
    of errors at law. See State v. Russell, 
    893 N.W.2d 307
    , 314 (Iowa 2017) (“Hearsay
    rulings, however, are reviewed for errors at law. This standard of review extends
    to determining whether statements come within an exception to the general
    prohibition on hearsay evidence.” (citation omitted)); State v. Smith, 
    876 N.W.2d 180
    , 184 (Iowa 2016) (discussing excited utterance evidence the court maintained,
    “Although we normally review evidence-admission decisions . . . for an abuse of
    discretion, we review hearsay claims for correction of errors at law.”). In Smith,
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    the court clarified, “[T]he question whether a particular statement constitutes
    hearsay presents a legal issue, leaving the court no discretion on whether to admit
    or deny admission of the 
    statement.” 876 N.W.2d at 184
    (citation omitted). This
    suggests our review will not look for an abuse of discretion.
    In its brief, the State acknowledges recent cases indicate hearsay rulings
    are reviewed for correction of errors at law but disagrees and believes that
    hearsay, like all other evidentiary objections, should be reviewed for an abuse of
    discretion, citing State v. Weaver, 
    554 N.W.2d 240
    , 247 (Iowa 1996): “The court
    has broad discretion in deciding evidentiary issues, including admissibility of
    hearsay evidence . . . . We generally review the admissibility of evidence . . . for
    abuse of discretion.” However, in State v. Hallum, our supreme court specifically
    distinguished Weaver, stating,
    We have on prior occasions reviewed the admission of hearsay
    evidence for abuse of discretion. See, e.g., . . . State v. Weaver,
    . . . . Recently, however, we stated such rulings should be reviewed
    for correction of errors of law. See State v. Ross, 
    573 N.W.2d 906
    ,
    910 (Iowa 1998). We adhere to our decision in Ross and review the
    trial court’s admission of Medina’s statement for correction of errors
    of law.
    
    585 N.W.2d 249
    , 253–54 (Iowa 1998) overruled on other grounds by Hallum v.
    Iowa, 
    527 U.S. 1001
    (1999). We note the supreme court transferred this appeal
    to our court. As has been repeated frequently, the court of appeals is not at liberty
    to stray from existing supreme court precedent. See, e.g., State v. Beck, 
    854 N.W.2d 56
    , 64 (Iowa Ct. App. 2014) (“We are not at liberty to overrule controlling
    supreme court precedent.”). We apply the prevailing rule and review for correction
    of errors at law.
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    The State also contends the defense waived this first issue for review on
    appeal because the appellant’s brief does not comply with Iowa Rule of Appellate
    Procedure 6.903(2)(g)(1), requiring “[a] statement addressing how the issue was
    preserved for appellate review, with references to the places in the record where
    the issue was raised and decided.” We note appellant’s brief quotes extensively
    from the trial transcript that includes the defense hearsay objections. We find the
    appellants did not waive the issue.
    Hearsay is a statement “(1) The declarant does not make while testifying at
    the current trial or hearing; and (2) A party offers into evidence to prove the truth
    of the matter asserted in the statement.” Iowa R. Evid. 5.801(c). Hearsay is
    inadmissible unless an exception applies.        Iowa R. Evid. 5.802.      One such
    exception is an “excited utterance.” Iowa R. Evid. 5.803(2). An “excited utterance”
    is defined as a “statement relating to a startling event or condition, made while the
    declarant was under the stress of excitement that it caused.” 
    Id. “The rationale
    behind the exception is that statements made under the stress of excitement are
    less likely to involve deception than if made upon reflection or deliberation.” State
    v. Tejeda, 
    677 N.W.2d 744
    , 753 (Iowa 2004).
    [T]he trial court [in ruling on the applicability of this exception to a
    particular statement], . . . should consider:
    (1) the time lapse between the event and the
    statement, (2) the extent to which questioning elicited
    the statements that otherwise would not have been
    volunteered, (3) the age and condition of the declarant,
    (4) the characteristics of the event being described,
    and (5) the subject matter of the statement.
    State v. Harper, 
    770 N.W.2d 316
    , 319 (Iowa 2009) (quoting State v. Atwood, 
    602 N.W.2d 775
    , 782 (Iowa 1999)).         “The court must consider all the factors to
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    determine if the statements are admissible.” 
    Dudley, 856 N.W.2d at 679
    (citing
    State v. Hy, 
    458 N.W.2d 609
    , 611 (Iowa Ct. App.1990)).
    (1) The time lapse between the event and the statement. Hanslip first
    contends Keefer’s statements did not qualify as excited utterances because there
    was sufficient time for Keefer to settle down from when he first called 911 to when
    officers arrived and talked to him. Hanslip points out that one of the officers
    testified, “But I think we were able to calm him down after two to three minutes of
    conversation with him to try to get—get more information from him.”7 However, as
    the transcript reveals, the officers arrived within one to two minutes of the call and,
    “[b]efore he had a chance to calm down,” the man told officers that he was afraid
    of the man in blue with the shotgun and did not want to let him inside the house.
    Hanslip also argues the context of Keefer’s emotional state must be viewed
    from events of the previous day. Officers testified that later during their discussion,
    Keefer indicated Hanslip had been to his residence on the previous day. Hanslip
    contends this should be considered as the start of events and that under case law,
    such a lengthy time period removes Keefer’s comments from the excited utterance
    exception. The cases Hanslip relies upon where the excited utterance exceptions
    were rejected involved lapses of time greater than the few minutes involved here.
    See 
    Dudley, 856 N.W.2d at 675
    (holding a thirty-six-hour lapse was too long to fall
    within the excited utterance exception); 
    Tejeda, 677 N.W.2d at 754
    (thirty minutes);
    7
    This testimony was from Sergeant Dane Wagner, who had directed two other officers to
    interview Keefer while the sergeant participated in securing the vehicle. He did not go to
    the residence and talk to Keefer until three to five minutes later. Even when Sergeant
    Wagner talked to Keefer, he observed Keefer was excited and scared.
    10
    State v. Cagley, 
    638 N.W.2d 678
    , 680 (Iowa 2001) (less than an hour)8; see also
    United States v. Marrowbone, 
    211 F.3d 452
    , 455 (8th Cir. 2000) (three hours after
    events).
    The record shows that officers found Keefer to be in an excited state when
    they first encountered him after the 911 call. Whether Keefer had interacted with
    Hanslip on the previous day may be one of the factors to consider in determining
    his excited condition, but it does not prevent such a finding. Hanslip’s pounding
    on Keefer’s door while holding the shotgun qualifies as a “startling event or
    condition” as required by the excited utterance exception regardless of the
    interaction between them on the previous day.
    (2) Questioning versus volunteered statements. Based upon our review of
    the trial transcript, particularly the testimony of Officer Eric Davis, who was one of
    the first two officers to approach Keefer within minutes of the 911 call, Keefer
    volunteered information almost identical to what he had stated during his call to
    the 911 dispatcher. It was not in response to officer questioning.
    (3) Age and condition of the declarant. There is limited information in the
    trial record regarding Keefer. It can be determined that he is a male adult. There
    is intimation that he may have been a methamphetamine dealer. Hanslip argues,
    “It is not clear whether Keefer’s fear resulted from an actual incident and how much
    from his own possible (though admittedly unproven) meth use.” This argument—
    8
    We note—further contributing to the confusion—the supreme court in Cagley
    acknowledged, “[W]e have characterized these decisions [whether a statement falls within
    the hearsay exception for excited utterances] as being reviewable for abuse of discretion,”
    but the court ultimately applied a substantial evidence standard, “giving ‘deference’ to the
    district court’s factual 
    findings.” 638 N.W.2d at 681
    .
    11
    that Keefer was high on methamphetamine instead of excited by Hanslip pounding
    on Keefer’s front door while armed with a sawed-off shotgun—is wholly
    unsupported by the record. Hanslip’s brief concedes such a claim is “admittedly
    unprove[d].” We need not give it any further consideration.
    (4) Characteristics of the event being described. The event described by
    Keefer was Hanslip pounding on Keefer’s front door while armed with a sawed-off
    shotgun and wanting to gain entry. This would be the kind of startling event likely
    to generate an excited condition and result in an excited utterance.
    (5) Subject matter of the statement. Keefer’s statement to officers was
    substantially the same as what he told the 911 dispatcher—that a man in blue was
    pounding on his front door and had a shotgun. The additional information related
    by Keefer when officers arrived was that the weapon was a small shotgun with
    white tape around the handle where it would be held. The subject matter of the
    statement is directly related to the event that caused the excited condition.
    The prosecution established an evidentiary foundation concerning Keefer’s
    excited condition to qualify his statements to the officers as “excited utterances”
    under Iowa Rule of Evidence 5.803(2), an exception to the hearsay rule. After
    applying the five-prong test in Harper, we determine the trial court did not commit
    legal error in overruling defense counsel’s objection as the record supported the
    proffered testimony were excited utterances and a recognized exception to
    hearsay.
    12
    B. Whether the district court erred in denying Hanslip’s counsel’s motion
    to withdraw.
    The parties agree on the standard of review: “The question of whether a
    conflict exists is a mixed question of fact and law.” State v. Mulatillo, 
    907 N.W.2d 511
    , 517 (Iowa 2018).       The constitutional dimension of the legal question is
    reviewed de novo. 
    Id. The district
    court has discretion to determine whether the
    case presents an actual conflict of interest or a serious potential for a conflict, so
    we review the conflict-of-interest determination of the district court for an abuse of
    discretion. 
    Id. “The district
    court’s ‘factual findings in disqualification cases will not
    be disturbed on appeal if they are supported by substantial evidence.’” 
    Id. at 518
    (internal quotation marks omitted) (citing Bottoms v. Stapleton, 
    706 N.W.2d 411
    ,
    415 (Iowa 2005)).
    As to issue preservation, the State contests Hanslip’s reliance on article I,
    section 10 of the Iowa Constitution, arguing that at trial defense counsel only raised
    a challenge based on the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution with
    no reference to the state constitution. On appeal, Hanslip concedes the state
    constitution was not raised at trial, however he argues we may consider the state
    constitution issue even though it was not raised before the trial court, citing State
    v. Ingram, 
    914 N.W.2d 794
    (Iowa 2018) as support.
    Upon our review, we find Ingram does not support Hanslip’s position and,
    in fact, supports the opposite proposition. The supreme court held that in order to
    be considered on appeal, the state constitution must be raised at the trial court
    
    level. 914 N.W.2d at 800
    –01. Further, if it was not raised at trial, we may only
    consider the state-constitution issue on appeal if it is raised as an ineffective-
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    assistance-of-counsel claim.      
    Id. Here, there
    was no mention of the state
    constitution at the trial level, and an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claim is not
    raised in this appeal.     “Even issues implicating constitutional rights must be
    presented to and ruled upon by the district court in order to preserve error for
    appeal.” In re K.C., 
    660 N.W.2d 29
    , 38 (Iowa 2003); see also Meier v. Senecaut,
    
    641 N.W.2d 532
    , 537 (Iowa 2002) (“It is a fundamental doctrine of appellate review
    that issues must ordinarily be both raised and decided by the district court before
    we will decide them on appeal.”).        The state-constitution issue has not been
    preserved for this appeal and we may only consider the Sixth Amendment claim.
    This appeal involves a determination of whether a conflict existed when one
    attorney from a public defender office represented Hanslip and another attorney in
    that same office represented a potential State witness against Hanslip—who had
    charges pending in an unrelated case. The court held a pre-trial hearing on the
    conflict issue to perform a forward-looking analysis of the case in order to assess
    the likelihood that a potential conflict might transform into an actual conflict. Thus,
    the district court had to perform its analysis under the “serious potential for conflict”
    standard. See McKinley, 
    860 N.W.2d 874
    , 881 (Iowa 2015). “A serious potential
    for conflict occurs when the record indicates an actual conflict is likely to arise.” 
    Id. at 881.9
    An actual conflict of interest under the Sixth Amendment is one “that
    adversely affect[s] counsel’s performance.” Mickens v. Taylor, 
    535 U.S. 162
    , 172
    n.5 (2002); see State v. Smitherman, 
    733 N.W.2d 341
    , 347 (Iowa 2007) (adopting
    the Mickens definition of “actual conflict of interest” in Iowa).
    9
    For an analysis of the development of Iowa case law on the attorney conflict issue, see
    Ibarra v. State, No. 14-2007, 
    2015 WL 6508952
    , at *5–10 (Iowa Ct. App. Oct. 28, 2015).
    14
    At the time of the pre-trial Watson hearing, the conflict did not yet exist; it
    would only develop if the State called Chavez as a rebuttal witness. The court
    determined that a serious potential for conflict existed and resolved it by removing
    the public defender attorney representing Chavez10 and ordering Hanslip’s counsel
    not to access Chavez’s public defender file in that office.11             The trial court
    confirmed that Hanslip’s public defender had not obtained personal knowledge
    from a review of Chavez’s file or conversations with her co-workers about Chavez
    or her pending case, which was unrelated to Hanslip’s charges.
    Hanslip concedes the trial court resolved the conflict issue by removing the
    public defender from Chavez’s case and implementing the Chinese Wall. These
    have previously been recognized by our state appellate courts as proper remedies
    for conflict situations. See 
    McKinley, 860 N.W.2d at 881
    ; 
    Smitherman, 733 N.W.2d at 347
    ; Ibarra, 
    2015 WL 6508952
    , at *5–10. In addition, in McKinley, our supreme
    court further refined how courts should view and remedy conflict situations
    regarding public defenders and representation of defendants and 
    witnesses. 860 N.W.2d at 881
    . The court pointed out that there is a difference when there is either
    a lack of temporal overlap or attorney overlap. 
    McKinley, 860 N.W.2d at 885
    . In
    Hanslip’s case, there was very limited temporal overlap and there was no attorney
    overlap; the public defender representing Hanslip at no time represented Chavez.
    10
    The court appointed a private attorney outside the public defender office to take over
    representing Chavez.
    11
    This is often referred to as creating a Chinese Wall between the attorney representing
    the defendant and the attorney representing the witness and that witness’s office file. See,
    e.g., Doe ex rel. Doe v. Perry Cmty. Sch. Dist., 
    650 N.W.2d 594
    , 600 (Iowa 2002).
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    Relying on the Watson case, Hanslip contends that even though the trial
    court addressed and resolved the potential conflict, the court’s failure to make a
    record with Hanslip and failure to obtain his waiver of the potential conflict his
    attorney would have in cross-examining Chavez requires reversal and a new trial.
    As noted above, we are only addressing a Sixth Amendment claim. Thus, Hanslip
    cannot obtain reversal and a new trial simply on a claim that the trial court failed to
    make a record as to Hanslip’s waiver of the conflict. He must show that there was
    an actual conflict and it adversely affected his counsel’s performance:
    We need not determine the validity of the defendant’s alleged
    waiver because we find the defendant has failed to show his
    counsel’s performance was adversely affected by the alleged conflict
    of interest in this case. As a result, he has not established a violation
    under the Sixth Amendment or the Iowa constitution and is not
    entitled to a new trial.
    
    Smitherman, 733 N.W.2d at 350
    . Hanslip has failed to do so. The court made
    inquiry and our review of the record discloses that his trial counsel’s performance
    in cross-examining Chavez was not adversely affected.
    Notably, there was no evidence in the record “tending to establish
    any confidence or secret learned during the public defenders’ prior
    representations of the witnesses on unrelated matters” that would be
    used against the witnesses or materially benefit the defendant’s
    defense. Therefore, we found no actual conflict of interest or serious
    potential for an actual conflict of interest existed.
    
    Mulatillo, 907 N.W.2d at 520
    (citations omitted). The trial court did not err in
    denying Hanslip’s attorney’s motion to withdraw. 12
    12  We also note Hanslip offhandedly argues that the trial court violated his rights under
    the Sixth Amendment by failing to make a record as to either his waiver of a right to
    independent counsel or a waiver of a right to speedy trial. Hanslip’s trial counsel used the
    motion to withdraw as a trial tactic in conjunction with Hanslip’s refusal to waive speedy
    trial in an attempt to obtain a ruling from the court that the State be barred from calling
    Chavez as a rebuttal witness. Since the trial commenced within the speedy trial deadline,
    16
    IV.      Conclusion.
    Finding the trial court did not err in its excited utterance evidentiary ruling
    nor in its denial of Hanslip’s counsel’s motion to withdraw based on a claimed
    conflict of interest, we affirm Hanslip’s convictions.
    AFFIRMED.
    there was no need to make a record as to Hanslip’s further waiver of speedy trial rights.
    As to Hanslip’s claim of a right to independent counsel for making a record as to his waiver
    of his trial counsel’s conflict of interest, this was addressed adversely to his claim in Ibarra,
    
    2015 WL 6508952
    , at *11, and need not be further discussed here.
    The State argues in its brief that we should hold—as have numerous other state
    and federal courts—that a public defender office is not the same as a private law firm and
    representation of defendants and witnesses by attorneys within the same public defender
    office does not create a conflict of interest. Since we resolve this appeal without having
    to address the state’s argument, we leave it for another day.