State v. Shelly , 303 Kan. 1027 ( 2016 )


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  •                  IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF KANSAS
    No. 109,292
    STATE OF KANSAS,
    Appellee,
    v.
    CHARLES E. SHELLY,
    Appellant.
    SYLLABUS BY THE COURT
    1.
    Evaluation of the third exception allowing a late direct appeal under State v. Ortiz,
    
    230 Kan. 733
    , Syl. ¶ 3, 
    640 P.2d 1255
    (1982), requires consideration of whether the
    criminal defendant received effective assistance of counsel under Roe v. Flores-Ortega,
    
    528 U.S. 470
    , 476-77, 
    120 S. Ct. 1029
    , 
    145 L. Ed. 2d 985
    (2000).
    2.
    A criminal defendant whose counsel erroneously advises that there is no issue
    worthy of direct appeal is eligible for application of the third exception under State v.
    Ortiz, 
    230 Kan. 733
    , Syl. ¶ 3, 
    640 P.2d 1255
    (1982), if the defendant demonstrates that he
    or she would have taken a timely appeal but for the erroneous advice.
    Review of the judgment of the Court of Appeals in 
    49 Kan. App. 2d 942
    , 
    318 P.3d 666
    (2014).
    Appeal from Brown District Court; JOHN L. WEINGART, judge. Opinion filed March 25, 2016. Judgment
    of the Court of Appeals dismissing the appeal is reversed. Judgment of the district court is reversed. Case
    is remanded to the Court of Appeals.
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    Nancy Ogle, of Ogle Law Office, L.L.C., of Wichita, argued the cause and was on the briefs for
    appellant.
    Kevin M. Hill, county attorney, argued the cause, and Derek Schmidt, attorney general, was with
    him on the brief for appellee.
    The opinion of the court was delivered by
    BEIER, J.: This is a companion case to State v. Perry, 303 Kan. ___, ___ P.3d ___
    (No. 109,506, this day decided).
    Defendant Charles E. Shelly, along with his codefendant wife, Cara N. Perry,
    entered a no contest plea to one count of unlawful distribution of a drug precursor and
    one count of unlawful possession of a drug precursor. Defense counsel did not file a
    timely direct appeal. Shelly filed a pro se K.S.A. 60-1507 motion, arguing that he should
    have been sentenced under the identical offense doctrine discussed in State v. Snellings,
    
    294 Kan. 149
    , 
    273 P.3d 739
    (2012), a case handed down on the date of Shelly's
    sentencing. The district court judge held the Snellings decision applied only to Shelly's
    possession of a drug precursor conviction and reduced his sentence accordingly.
    Shelly appealed, and the Court of Appeals remanded to district court for a hearing
    under State v. Ortiz, 
    230 Kan. 733
    , 
    640 P.2d 1255
    (1982). Ortiz permits untimely appeals
    when one of three exceptions applies. 
    230 Kan. 733
    , Syl. ¶ 3 (late appeal permitted if
    defendant not informed of right to appeal; was not furnished attorney to perfect appeal; or
    was furnished attorney for appeal who failed to perfect, complete appeal). The district
    judge held that none of the Ortiz exceptions applied in Shelly's case.
    The Court of Appeals affirmed the district judge's decision and dismissed Shelly's
    appeal. State v. Shelly, 
    49 Kan. App. 2d 942
    , 
    318 P.3d 666
    (2014).
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    We granted Shelly's petition for review and now hold that the third Ortiz exception
    permitted Shelly to file an untimely direct appeal. Accordingly, we reverse the Court of
    Appeals' dismissal and remand this case to it for consideration of the merits of Shelly's
    Snellings argument on the distribution of a drug precursor conviction.
    DETAILED FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    On March 5, 2012, Shelly pleaded no contest to one count of unlawful distribution
    of a drug precursor and one count of unlawful possession of a drug precursor, both in
    violation of K.S.A. 2011 Supp. 21-5710 and both severity level 2 drug felonies. On April
    6, 2012, he was sentenced to 56 months' imprisonment for unlawful distribution of a drug
    precursor concurrent to 49 months' imprisonment for unlawful possession of a drug
    precursor. He was also ordered to register as a drug offender.
    At the conclusion of the sentencing hearing, the district judge stated:
    "Mr. Shelly, you have a right to appeal the sentence I've handed down, but you
    must file a written notice of appeal within 14 days from today with the clerk of the
    district court. If you cannot afford to hire an attorney to help you with the appeal, one
    will be appointed for you."
    Shelly would later testify that he asked defense counsel after sentencing what his
    appeal options were. His counsel, Robert Arnold III, said that there was nothing to
    appeal, and Shelly did not direct Arnold to file an appeal.
    Arnold would later testify that he and Shelly had discussed an appeal and how
    much it would cost, that Shelly had received the benefit of a plea bargain and concurrent
    sentencing, and that a mutual decision was made not to proceed with an appeal. Arnold's
    law firm had handled a previous appeal for Shelly.
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    A timely notice of appeal was never filed.
    On the day of Shelly's sentencing, this court issued its decision in Snellings,
    holding that possession of ephedrine or pseudoephedrine with intent to manufacture a
    controlled substance, a severity level 2 drug felony, has elements identical to those of
    possession of drug paraphernalia with intent to manufacture a controlled substance, a
    severity level 4 drug felony, which meant that Shelly's crimes of conviction could be
    subject to reclassification that would reduce his sentence. 
    Snellings, 294 Kan. at 158
    .
    According to Shelly's eventual testimony, he became aware of Snellings when he
    first arrived at prison in April 2012, and he asked his mother to notify Arnold of the
    ruling. Arnold took no action and advised Shelly to "stop being a jailhouse lawyer."
    Arnold, for his part, would later testify that he had no recollection of Shelly
    contacting him within 14 days of sentencing and that "it wasn't really an appeal that he
    wanted me to try to do." Rather, "[i]t was a motion to reduce his sentence, and it was
    based upon some law." Arnold could not recall when he learned about the Snellings
    decision, supposing he had been told by his law partner or by Shelly. Arnold said:
    "At different points, I would receive communications for, you know, months and
    months later, and he had quoted some other cases . . . , because there was a change in the
    law in terms of what the sentencing recommendations would be for precursors. And there
    was never an agreement reached to file any type of additional request for relief from that
    sentence, one, because they didn't pay any additional funds for a private attorney to do
    that, and that's my recollection."
    On July 2, 2012, Arnold filed a motion to withdraw as Shelly's counsel, which was
    granted by the district judge. On the same day, Shelly filed his pro se K.S.A. 60-1507
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    motion, arguing his sentence for unlawful distribution of a drug precursor should be
    modified to that for a severity level 4 felony based on Snellings. On July 11, 2012, the
    district judge issued an order consolidating Shelly's pro se K.S.A. 60-1507 motion in
    2012 CV 23 with the criminal case in 2011 CR 165.
    Shelly was represented by court-appointed counsel Andrew Delaney at the district
    court hearing on August 6, 2012. When asked if the State would concede that Snellings
    applied to reduce Shelly's sentence for unlawful possession of a drug precursor, the
    prosecutor said he would like to preserve the issue of Shelly's failure to file a timely
    direct appeal.
    The district judge concluded that Snellings applied to Shelly's unlawful possession
    of a drug precursor conviction but not to his unlawful distribution of a drug precursor
    conviction. Shelly was resentenced to 11 months' imprisonment on his conviction for
    unlawful possession of a drug precursor, but the controlling sentence for unlawful
    distribution of a drug precursor was left as is. The district judge encouraged Shelly to
    appeal because clarification was needed on whether the distribution sentence needed to
    be corrected as well.
    On August 17, 2012, Shelly appealed from the district judge's orders, "including
    but not limited to finding of guilt and the sentence entered herein and the order regarding
    Defendant's Motion to Correct Illegal Sentence entered on August 6, 2012." The State did
    not cross-appeal the district judge's modification of the possession sentence. Nancy Ogle
    was appointed to represent Shelly on appeal.
    The journal entry for the August 6, 2012, hearing was not filed until December 20,
    2012. At that point, Shelly filed an Amended Notice of Appeal clarifying that he was
    appealing from this journal entry and all other adverse rulings and orders.
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    On April 17, 2013, Shelly filed a motion for remand from the Court of Appeals to
    the district court, acknowledging that he had not filed a timely notice of appeal after his
    April 2012 sentencing but only from his August 2012 resentencing. Shelly asserted
    Arnold failed to file an appeal despite Shelly's request that he do so. The Court of
    Appeals retained jurisdiction but granted Shelly's motion for remand to district court for a
    determination of whether an untimely appeal of the sentence should be permitted. It
    ordered:
    "The only appealable issue in the supplemental appeal is whether the district
    court erred in determining that the Ortiz exceptions did not apply. If this court determines
    the district court did not err, the appeal will be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. If this
    court determines the district court erred, the appeal will be retained and the parties will be
    ordered to submit briefs on the substantive issues."
    Before the Ortiz hearing in district court, Shelly filed Defendant's Motion for
    Reconsideration of Sentence for Count I, suggesting that the clarification needed in
    August 2012 from the appellate courts on appropriate sentencing under Snellings had
    since been provided. The motion cited State v. Swor, No. 107,622, 
    2013 WL 781131
    (Kan. App. 2013) (unpublished opinion).
    On May 17, 2013, the district judge conducted a hearing on Ortiz and the
    Defendant's Motion for Reconsideration. At the outset, the district judge denied Shelly's
    motion because the Court of Appeals had retained jurisdiction of the case and had
    remanded only on the Ortiz issue.
    As stated above, Shelly testified that he asked about his appeal options, that
    Arnold said there was nothing to appeal, and that Shelly did not direct Arnold to file an
    appeal. When Shelly learned of Snellings in prison, his mother emailed Arnold, but
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    Arnold did not pursue resentencing. Arnold testified that there was a decision not to
    proceed with an appeal and that, although Shelly later sent him communications about
    other cases, "there was never an agreement reached to file any type of additional request
    for relief from that sentence, one, because they didn't pay any additional funds for a
    private attorney."
    On cross-examination, defense counsel asked Arnold if he made a habit of
    checking new appellate cases decided each Friday, and the State objected, stating "it
    appears we're getting more now into a[n] ineffective type allegation, or setting the
    grounds for that instead of Ortiz. And Ortiz focuses on whether he was directed to file an
    appeal, and I think we're kind of running astray of that." The district judge responded that
    he would allow counsel a little bit of latitude, "but we need to deal with the Ortiz matter."
    The defense asked one more question about how Arnold learned of the Snellings
    decision, but Arnold could not recall if he learned of the decision from Shelly or from his
    law partner.
    In closing argument, defense counsel focused on the first Ortiz exception, arguing
    the district judge erred by not informing Shelly that he had the right to appeal the severity
    level of his sentence under State v. Patton, 
    287 Kan. 200
    , 220, 
    195 P.3d 753
    (2008).
    Counsel's second argument was interrupted by the district judge:
    "THE COURT: And the second component of your argument?
    "MS. OGLE: Is that Mr. Shelly, you know, expressed his desire to have an
    appeal, and Mr. Arnold—
    "THE COURT: Well, we had a hearing to modify the sentence on Count II, with
    appointed counsel, as a result of 60-1507, right?
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    "MS. OGLE: Right. Which was consolidated with his—
    "THE COURT: Which he was given the right to appeal—notice of appeal in that
    hearing, as well.
    "MS. OGLE: Right. And he did appeal—
    "THE COURT: Yeah.
    "MS. OGLE: —that sentence, right.
    "THE COURT: Right."
    Counsel's remarks then turned to the State's repeated references to Shelly's plea
    agreement.
    Examining the Ortiz factors, the district judge found Shelly was advised of his
    right to appeal within 14 days at sentencing; Shelly had counsel for the purpose of
    perfecting an appeal; and Shelly was advised that if he could not afford counsel, one
    would be appointed for him. The district judge found that Shelly did not direct Arnold to
    perfect an appeal, reasoning that merely talking about whether there was any issue to
    appeal or the Snellings case did not amount to "a direction that the case be appealed."
    Accordingly, the district judge ruled that none of the Ortiz exceptions permitting an
    untimely appeal existed. The Journal Entry was filed on May 28, 2013.
    On June 3, 2013, Shelly attempted to appeal the district court rulings on the Ortiz
    exceptions, his Motion for Reconsideration, and all previous adverse rulings and orders.
    He later filed a motion to obtain a second remand to district court so that he could add a
    claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. The motion stated that the district judge had
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    not permitted questioning regarding ineffective assistance of counsel at the Ortiz hearing
    and that
    "[w]hile an argument can be made that a later claim of ineffective assistance of
    counsel will not be barred because it is not being addressed in this appeal as the issues
    currently stand, Appellant makes this motion in an effort to avoid the chance of a court
    barring the issue in a subsequent proceeding."
    The Court of Appeals denied the motion and refused to consider the ineffective assistance
    of counsel issue on the merits because Ortiz relief was not warranted.
    Given all of these proceedings, the sole issue Shelly briefed on appeal was his
    challenge to the district court Ortiz ruling. Specifically, Shelly argued the first Ortiz
    exception—the defendant was not informed of the right to appeal at sentencing or by
    counsel—was applicable because neither the district judge nor Arnold specifically
    advised Shelly that he had a right to appeal the severity level of his sentence under
    
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 220
    ("[A] district judge must inform a criminal defendant at
    sentencing, regardless of whether the defendant has entered a plea or gone to trial, that:
    (1) a right to appeal the severity level of the sentence exists . . . .").
    In a published opinion, the Court of Appeals panel did not interpret Patton to
    require a sentencing judge to specifically advise the defendant of his or her right to
    appeal the severity level of the sentence. It reasoned that the defendant in Patton merely
    happened to be challenging the severity level of his conviction and sentence, and the
    court thus used language applicable to the facts of the particular case before it. The panel
    did not believe the Patton court intended to broaden the applicability of the explicit
    language of the statutes cited in that case—K.S.A. 22-3424(f) (requiring sentencing court
    to advise defendant of right to appeal at sentencing even if defendant unable to pay costs)
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    or K.S.A. 22-4505 (requiring district judge to inform indigent felony defendant of right to
    appeal conviction, right to have attorney appointed to prosecute appeal)—by imposing a
    greater duty on district judges. 
    Shelly, 49 Kan. App. 2d at 948
    . The panel further noted
    that a defendant has the right to appeal a criminal history classification under K.S.A. 21-
    4721(e)(3), and requiring a sentencing judge to advise a defendant of the right to appeal
    the severity level of the sentence could mislead a defendant into believing that severity
    level was the only issue that could be pursued before the appellate courts. Because Shelly
    was advised of his right to appeal his sentence within 14 days and was told that an
    attorney would be appointed for the appeal if he could not afford one, the panel held the
    first Ortiz exception was 
    inapplicable. 49 Kan. App. 2d at 949
    .
    Shelly also argued in his brief before the Court of Appeals that Ogle had raised the
    third Ortiz exception before the district court, i.e., that Shelly was furnished counsel for
    an appeal and that the attorney "failed to perfect and complete an appeal." Albright v.
    State, 
    292 Kan. 193
    , 198, 
    251 P.3d 52
    (2011). In Shelly's view, Arnold should have taken
    steps to preserve Shelly's right to appeal, including advising him that he could appeal the
    severity level that led to his sentence. Had Arnold filed a timely notice of appeal, Shelly
    believed he could have argued entitlement to relief under Snellings and State v. Adams,
    
    294 Kan. 171
    , 
    273 P.3d 718
    (2012).
    The panel held that the testimony at the remand hearing provided substantial
    competent evidence to support the district judge's finding that Shelly did not direct
    Arnold to perfect an appeal of the sentencing order at the April 2012 sentencing. Rather,
    Shelly simply decided not to pursue a timely appeal. Accordingly, the panel affirmed the
    district judge's ruling that the third Ortiz exception was inapplicable. Shelly, 49 Kan.
    App. 2d at 950-51.
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    It is significant that the panel did not address Shelly's ineffective assistance of
    counsel claim under the umbrella of the third Ortiz exception, other than noting: "Shelly's
    motion made no claim of ineffective assistance of counsel against Arnold." 
    49 Kan. App. 2d
    at 943.
    Because none of the Ortiz exceptions applied, the panel did not reach the merits of
    whether Snellings would apply to Shelly's conviction of unlawful distribution of a drug
    precursor, and it dismissed Shelly's appeal. 
    49 Kan. App. 2d
    at 942, 951.
    On petition for review to this court, Shelly raised two issues: (1) whether the first
    Ortiz exception is applicable because Shelly was not informed of his right to appeal the
    severity level of the sentence as required by Patton; and (2) whether the third Ortiz
    exception is applicable because Arnold knew Shelly wanted to appeal his sentence and
    failed to file a timely notice of appeal, which was objectively unreasonable under Roe v.
    Flores-Ortega, 
    528 U.S. 470
    , 476-77, 
    120 S. Ct. 1029
    , 
    145 L. Ed. 2d 985
    (2000). In a
    supplemental brief, Shelly also has asked this court to consider the substantive issue of
    whether Snellings and Adams apply to his unlawful distribution of a drug precursor
    conviction. In his view, although the Court of Appeals panel limited the issues he could
    brief on appeal, "[b]etween the briefs filed by Shelly and the briefs filed by Perry, the
    Court is well informed on the facts and legal authorities governing the merits of Shelly's
    appeal."
    Shelly has also submitted two letters of supplemental authority under Supreme
    Court Rule 6.09(b)(1)(C) (2015 Kan. Ct. R. Annot. 53). In the first, he asks this Court to
    adopt the reasoning of Grazier v. State, No. 109,792, 
    2014 WL 5312851
    , at *4 (Kan.
    App. 2014) (unpublished opinion), which applied the third Ortiz exception and held that
    defense counsel was ineffective for failing to inform the defendant of the possible effect
    of the identical offense sentencing doctrine while Snellings and Adams were pending on
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    review. In the second, Shelly directs this court's attention to a different Court of Appeals
    panel's decision in his wife's case. State v. Perry, No. 109,506, 
    2014 WL 6676044
    (Kan.
    App. 2014) (unpublished opinion). In that case, the panel concluded that Perry was
    entitled to a late appeal under the third Ortiz exception, 
    2014 WL 6676044
    , at *4, and
    Shelly asserts that the facts of his wife's case are materially indistinguishable from those
    here. As we noted above, we affirm the Court of Appeals decision in the Perry case
    today. See slip op. at 12.
    FIRST ORTIZ EXCEPTION
    This court reviews "the factual findings underlying a trial court's Ortiz ruling for
    substantial competent evidence," but it applies "a de novo standard when reviewing the
    ultimate legal determination of whether those facts fit within an Ortiz exception." State v.
    Gill, 
    287 Kan. 289
    , 293, 
    196 P.3d 369
    (2008). To the extent this case requires
    interpretation of a statute, such an issue also is governed by a de novo standard. State v.
    Eddy, 
    299 Kan. 29
    , 32, 
    321 P.3d 12
    , cert. denied 
    135 S. Ct. 91
    (2014).
    In Kansas, a criminal defendant's direct appeal must be filed within 14 days of
    sentencing. See K.S.A. 2015 Supp. 22-3608(c) (14-day time limit for crimes committed
    on or after July 1, 1993). "The filing of a timely notice of appeal is jurisdictional.
    Generally, the failure to file a timely notice of appeal requires dismissal of the appeal.
    [Citations omitted.]" 
    Albright, 292 Kan. at 197
    . In the interest of fundamental fairness,
    however, this court recognized three exceptions in Ortiz to the dismissal requirement.
    
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 206
    (citing 
    Ortiz, 230 Kan. at 735-36
    ).
    "The Ortiz exceptions recognize that an untimely appeal may be allowed in the
    direct appeal from a conviction and sentence if a criminal defendant either (1) was not
    informed of the right to appeal at sentencing or by counsel, (2) was indigent and not
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    furnished counsel to perfect an appeal, or (3) was furnished counsel for that purpose who
    failed to perfect and complete an appeal. [Citations omitted.]" 
    Albright, 292 Kan. at 198
    .
    Shelly argues the first Ortiz exception is applicable to his case because the district
    judge did not specifically advise him that he had "a right to appeal the severity level of
    the sentence" as required in 
    Patton. 287 Kan. at 220
    . Shelly also emphasizes that neither
    Arnold nor a written plea agreement filled in the blank left by the sentencing judge.
    In Patton, the district judge told defendant Joshua Patton that he had the right to
    appeal any of the judge's rulings or findings, "'specifically, in regards to finding against
    you on the dispositional 
    departure.'" 287 Kan. at 203
    . No timely appeal was filed; State v.
    McAdam, 
    277 Kan. 136
    , 145-47, 
    83 P.3d 161
    (2004) (applying identical offense
    sentencing doctrine to conspiracy to manufacture methamphetamine conviction), was
    subsequently decided; various motions were filed; and Patton ultimately had an Ortiz
    hearing on a K.S.A. 60-1507 motion alleging counsel was ineffective for failing to file a
    timely appeal challenging the severity level of his attempted manufacture crime. On its
    way to a decision, the Patton court set out the backdrop and proper analysis under the
    first Ortiz exception:
    "A criminal defendant may qualify to take a late appeal under the first Ortiz
    exception if he or she has been denied basic procedural due process, i.e., timely and
    reasonable notice and an opportunity to be heard. [Citations omitted.]
    "Three Kansas statutes provide specific procedural safeguards of the right to
    appeal by certain criminal defendants. First, K.S.A. 22-3210(a)(2) requires a judge who
    accepts a felony guilty or nolo contendere plea to inform the defendant of the
    'consequences' of the plea. These consequences include waiver of the right to appeal any
    resulting conviction. K.S.A. 22-3424(f) instructs that a sentencing judge must inform a
    defendant who has gone to trial of 'defendant's right to appeal' and of the right of a person
    who is unable to pay the costs of an appeal to appeal in forma pauperis. We note that
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    Phinney, 280 Kan. at 402
    , and State v. Pickerill, No. 93,595, [
    2006 WL 2129122
    ,]
    unpublished opinion filed July 28, 2006, rev. denied 
    282 Kan. 795
    (2006), have
    interpreted this provision broadly to apply to all defendants. In keeping with these
    precedents, we hold explicitly that the requirements of K.S.A. 22-3424(f) apply
    regardless of whether a defendant went to trial and regardless of whether he or she is
    indigent. K.S.A. 22-4505 requires the district judge to inform an indigent felony
    defendant of the 'right to appeal . . . [a] conviction' and the right to have an attorney
    appointed and a transcript of the trial record produced for that purpose.
    "Due process is denied—and an out-of-time appeal may be permissible under the
    first Ortiz exception—if a district judge fails to abide by one of these statutes, as they
    have been interpreted by our earlier case law. Thus a district judge must inform a
    criminal defendant at sentencing, regardless of whether the defendant has entered a plea
    or gone to trial, that: (1) a right to appeal the severity level of the sentence exists; (2) any
    such appeal must be taken within 10 days (see 
    Phinney, 280 Kan. at 400
    ; 
    Willingham, 266 Kan. at 100-01
    [citing 
    Mitchell, 231 Kan. at 146
    ]); and (3) if the defendant is
    indigent, an attorney will be appointed for the purpose of taking any desired appeal.
    Compare Fed. R. Crim. P. 32(j) (allocating to court responsibility to inform criminal
    defendant of right to appeal)." (Emphasis added.) 
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 219-20
    .
    The Patton court concluded that the rules set forth in the opinion shall be applied
    "to all cases not yet final on direct appeal and those to be appealed in the 
    future." 287 Kan. at 225
    . The Patton court did not apply the first exception because "Patton was
    informed of his right to appeal his sentence, although the district judge's misstatement of
    Kansas law meant he may have been misled about the issues that would be appropriate
    for appellate 
    consideration." 287 Kan. at 225
    .
    Addressing Shelly's argument under the first exception, the Court of Appeals panel
    said:
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    "At first blush, Shelly's argument appears to have merit. The transcript of the
    sentencing hearing on April 6, 2012, reflects that the sentencing judge advised Shelly of
    his right to appeal as follows:
    "'Mr. Shelly, you have a right to appeal the sentence I've handed
    down, but you must file a written notice of appeal within 14 days from
    today with the clerk of the district court. If you cannot afford to hire an
    attorney to help you with the appeal, one will be appointed for you.'
    "But as Shelly points out, the sentencing judge did not expressly advise him of his right
    to appeal the severity level of the sentence. The language used by the court in Patton
    would seem to make this a requirement at 
    sentencing. 287 Kan. at 220
    .
    "In reaching its decision in Patton, the Kansas Supreme Court cited three Kansas
    statutes that provide specific procedural safeguards of the right to appeal by criminal
    defendants, including K.S.A. 22-3424(f), which states:
    "'After imposing sentence in a case which has gone to trial on a
    plea of not guilty, the court shall advise the defendant of the defendant's
    right to appeal and of the right of a person who is unable to pay the costs
    of an appeal to appeal in forma pauperis.'
    "K.S.A. 22-3424(f) requires a sentencing court to advise the defendant of his or
    her 'right to appeal' at sentencing even if the defendant is unable to pay the costs.
    Similarly, K.S.A. 22-4505 requires the district judge to inform an indigent felony
    defendant of the 'right to appeal the conviction' and the right to have an attorney
    appointed to prosecute the appeal. Here, the transcript of Shelly's sentencing hearing on
    April 6, 2012, shows that the sentencing judge satisfied these statutory requirements.
    "Despite the language used by the Supreme Court in Patton, we do not interpret
    the court's decision in that case as requiring a sentencing judge to specifically advise the
    defendant of his or her right to appeal the severity level of the sentence. The defendant in
    Patton happened to be challenging the severity level of his conviction and sentence.
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    Thus, in ruling that a sentencing judge must advise the defendant of the right to appeal
    the severity level of the sentence, the Supreme Court was only using language applicable
    to the facts of that particular case.
    "We do not believe that the court's holding in Patton intended to broaden the
    language of K.S.A. 22-3424(f) or the language of K.S.A. 22-4505 by imposing a duty on
    a sentencing judge that is not expressly contained within the statutory language. These
    statutes only require a sentencing judge to advise the defendant of his or her 'right to
    appeal' the district court's judgment and the right to have appointed counsel if the
    defendant cannot afford to hire an attorney. There is no statutory requirement for a
    sentencing judge to specifically advise the defendant of his or her right to appeal the
    severity level of the sentence. The most fundamental rule of statutory construction is that
    the intent of the legislature governs if that intent can be ascertained. State v. Arnett, 
    290 Kan. 41
    , 47, 
    223 P.3d 780
    (2010). An appellate court must first attempt to ascertain
    legislative intent through the statutory language enacted, giving common words their
    ordinary meanings. State v. Urban, 
    291 Kan. 214
    , 216, 
    239 P.3d 837
    (2010).
    "To further illustrate this point, we note that a defendant who has been sentenced
    under the Kansas Sentencing Guidelines has an express statutory right to appeal his or her
    criminal history classification as well as the severity level of the crime of conviction. See
    K.S.A. 21-4721(e)(3). It would make no sense to require a sentencing judge to advise the
    defendant of his or her right to appeal the severity level of the sentence without also
    requiring the sentencing judge to advise the defendant of his or her right to appeal the
    criminal history classification. In fact, requiring a sentencing judge to advise the
    defendant of his or her right to appeal the severity level of the sentence could mislead the
    defendant into believing that a challenge to the severity level is the only issue that can be
    raised on appeal.
    "We conclude that the Supreme Court in Patton never intended to broaden the
    plain language of the controlling statutes by requiring a sentencing judge to specifically
    advise the defendant of his or her right to appeal the severity level of the sentence. This is
    in keeping with other Supreme Court decisions addressing the sentencing court's
    obligation to inform the defendant of his or her right to appeal. See State v. Phinney, 280
    
    16 Kan. 394
    , 402, 
    122 P.3d 356
    (2005) (trial court is required to advise the defendant of his
    or her right to appeal and of the right of an indigent to appeal in forma pauperis); State v.
    Willingham, 
    266 Kan. 98
    , 100, 
    967 P.2d 1079
    (1998) (defendant must be advised either
    by the court or by defense counsel of his or her right to appeal)." 
    49 Kan. App. 2d
    at 947-
    49.
    Shelly disagrees with the panel's interpretation of Patton. He contends the
    statement in Patton regarding a district judge's obligation to inform defendants that they
    have the right to an appeal of the severity level of their sentence is clear and
    unambiguous. He reasons the panel failed to take into consideration that his challenge to
    the severity level of his conviction and sentence is "no different than the defendant in
    Patton." In response, the State simply quotes the panel's analysis of this issue.
    We agree with the sound reasoning of the panel in this case. None of the
    "procedural safeguards of the right to appeal" statutes relied on in Patton specifically
    provide that a defendant must be advised of the right to appeal the severity level of his or
    her sentence, and the language of our Patton decision must be understood in the context
    in which it arose. 
    See 287 Kan. at 219-20
    ; see also K.S.A. 22-3210(a)(2) (judge must
    inform defendant of consequences of plea, including waiver of right to appeal resulting
    conviction); K.S.A. 22-3424(f) (sentencing court must advise defendant of "right to
    appeal" even if defendant unable to pay costs); K.S.A. 22-4505 (judge must inform
    indigent defendant of "right to appeal the conviction" and to have attorney appointed to
    prosecute appeal). The Patton court stated that "[d]ue process is denied—and an out-of-
    time appeal may be permissible under the first Ortiz exception—if a district judge fails to
    abide by one of these statutes, as they have been interpreted by our earlier case 
    law." 287 Kan. at 220
    . Shelly cites no earlier caselaw interpreting these statutes to require a
    defendant to be informed of the particular right to appeal the severity level of a sentence.
    17
    In addition, we agree with the Court of Appeals panel regarding the likelihood of
    confusion if a sentencing judge is required to inform a defendant of a right to appeal one
    component of the sentencing calculus without informing the defendant of a right to
    appeal another component. As the panel observed, K.S.A. 21-4721(e)(3) permits a
    criminal defendant to argue on appeal that "the sentencing court erred in . . . determining
    the appropriate classification of a prior conviction or juvenile adjudication for criminal
    history purposes." The interpretation of Patton suggested by Shelly leaves that
    information out of the information a defendant must receive.
    While Shelly is correct that both his case and Patton involve an appeal related to
    the severity level of the crimes, two further points about the Patton decision are
    important to note.
    First, the Patton decision was addressing whether Patton could appeal his sentence
    despite a written plea agreement waiving his right to appeal. This backdrop explains why
    the court was focused on the right to appeal the severity level of the sentence as opposed
    to appealing the crimes of conviction following a plea agreement. See State v. Harp, 
    283 Kan. 740
    , 743, 
    156 P.3d 1268
    (2007) ("Generally, no appeal can be taken from a
    judgment of conviction upon a guilty or no contest plea.").
    Second, despite the Patton opinion's language stating that a defendant must be
    informed that "a right to appeal the severity level of the sentence exists," the opinion does
    not say that Patton himself was specifically advised of his right to appeal the severity
    level of his 
    sentence. 287 Kan. at 220
    . Nevertheless, the court held the first Ortiz
    exception was inapplicable; the judge had merely informed Patton of "the right to appeal
    any of the judge's rulings or 
    findings." 287 Kan. at 203
    .
    18
    Thus application of Patton's analytical framework to the facts of Patton itself
    supports the panel's conclusions that: (1) this court did not intend to add a requirement to
    the statutory sentencing advisories, demanding that criminal defendants be told that they
    have the specific right to appeal the severity level assigned to their crimes to calculate
    their sentences; and (2) the district judge's statement to Shelly that he had the right to
    appeal his sentence was sufficient to make the first Ortiz exception inapplicable. See
    
    Shelly, 49 Kan. App. 2d at 948
    -49.
    We affirm the panel's conclusion that the district judge did not err in ruling that the
    first Ortiz exception was inapplicable.
    THIRD ORTIZ EXCEPTION
    The standards of review governing the third Ortiz exception are the same as those
    governing the first. See 
    Gill, 287 Kan. at 293
    .
    The third Ortiz exception allows a late appeal if a defendant was furnished or
    retained counsel who failed to perform. See 
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 223
    . The standard of
    performance to be applied to measure the adequacy of appellate counsel under the third
    exception is that outlined in 
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 476-78
    , and a brief review of that
    case provides the foundation for our analysis here.
    In Flores-Ortega, defense counsel wrote "'"bring appeal papers"'" in her file, but
    the court was unable to determine the content of her conversation with the defendant
    from the 
    record. 528 U.S. at 487
    . To evaluate defense counsel's effectiveness concerning
    the filing of an appeal, the Court first held that "a defendant who explicitly tells his
    attorney not to file an appeal plainly cannot later complain that, by following his
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    instructions, his counsel performed 
    deficiently." 528 U.S. at 477
    . Next, the court
    discussed an attorney's duty to consult about an appeal:
    "In those cases where the defendant neither instructs counsel to file an appeal nor
    asks that an appeal not be taken, we believe the question whether counsel has performed
    deficiently by not filing a notice of appeal is best answered by first asking a separate, but
    antecedent, question: whether counsel in fact consulted with the defendant about an
    appeal. We employ the term 'consult' to convey a specific meaning—advising the
    defendant about the advantages and disadvantages of taking an appeal, and making a
    reasonable effort to discover the defendant’s wishes. If counsel has consulted with the
    defendant, the question of deficient performance is easily answered: Counsel performs in
    a professionally unreasonable manner only by failing to follow the defendant's express
    instructions with respect to an appeal. 
    See supra, at 477
    . If counsel has not consulted with
    the defendant, the court must in turn ask a second, and subsidiary, question: whether
    counsel's failure to consult with the defendant itself constitutes deficient performance.
    That question lies at the heart of this case: Under what circumstances does counsel have
    an obligation to consult with the defendant about an appeal?
    ....
    "We . . . hold that counsel has a constitutionally imposed duty to consult with the
    defendant about an appeal when there is reason to think either (1) that a rational
    defendant would want to appeal (for example, because there are nonfrivolous grounds for
    appeal), or (2) that this particular defendant reasonably demonstrated to counsel that he
    was interested in appealing. In making this determination, courts must take into account
    all the information counsel knew or should have known. See 
    id., at 690
    (focusing on the
    totality of the circumstances). Although not determinative, a highly relevant factor in this
    inquiry will be whether the conviction follows a trial or a guilty plea, both because a
    guilty plea reduces the scope of potentially appealable issues and because such a plea
    may indicate that the defendant seeks an end to judicial proceedings. Even in cases when
    the defendant pleads guilty, the court must consider such factors as whether the defendant
    received the sentence bargained for as part of the plea and whether the plea expressly
    reserved or waived some or all appeal rights. Only by considering all relevant factors in a
    20
    given case can a court properly determine whether a rational defendant would have
    desired an appeal or that the particular defendant sufficiently demonstrated to counsel an
    interest in an appeal." (Emphases 
    added.) 528 U.S. at 478-80
    .
    To show prejudice in such circumstances, the court held, "a defendant must
    demonstrate that there is a reasonable probability that, but for counsel's deficient failure
    to consult with him about an appeal, he would have timely 
    appealed." 528 U.S. at 484
    .
    The court continued:
    "[E]vidence that there were nonfrivolous grounds for appeal or that the defendant in
    question promptly expressed a desire to appeal will often be highly relevant in making
    this determination. We recognize that the prejudice inquiry we have described is not
    wholly dissimilar from the inquiry used to determine whether counsel performed
    deficiently in the first place; specifically, both may be satisfied if the defendant shows
    nonfrivolous grounds for appeal. See Hill [v. Lockhart, 
    474 U.S. 52
    , 59, 
    106 S. Ct. 366
    ,
    
    88 L. Ed. 2d 203
    (1985)] (when, in connection with a guilty plea, counsel gives deficient
    advice regarding a potentially valid affirmative defense, the prejudice inquiry depends
    largely on whether that affirmative defense might have succeeded, leading a rational
    defendant to insist on going to trial). But, while the performance and prejudice prongs
    may overlap, they are not in all cases coextensive. To prove deficient performance, a
    defendant can rely on evidence that he sufficiently demonstrated to counsel his interest in
    an appeal. But such evidence alone is insufficient to establish that, had the defendant
    received reasonable advice from counsel about the appeal, he would have instructed his
    counsel to file an 
    appeal." 528 U.S. at 485-86
    .
    In Patton, we applied the Flores-Ortega rule to the third Ortiz exception as
    follows:
    "[Flores-Ortega] distinguishes between situations in which counsel's performance in the
    course of a proceeding is alleged to be deficient and those cases in which counsel's
    performance or failure to perform leads to forfeiture of a proceeding. Strickland v.
    21
    Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 687, 
    104 S. Ct. 2052
    , 
    80 L. Ed. 2d 674
    (1984), governs the
    former and Flores-Ortega the latter. See 
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 476-86
    .
    "We have long employed Strickland to judge whether a criminal defendant
    received ineffective assistance of counsel under the Sixth Amendment in the course of a
    criminal proceeding in the district court. See Chamberlain v. State, 
    236 Kan. 650
    , 656,
    
    694 P.2d 468
    (1985) (adopting and applying Strickland two-part standard). Under that
    standard, before counsel's assistance is determined to be so defective as to require
    reversal of a conviction, the defendant must establish two things: first, that counsel's
    performance was deficient, and second, that counsel's deficient performance prejudiced
    the defense. See Bledsoe v. State, 
    283 Kan. 81
    , 90, 
    150 P.3d 868
    (2007). Likewise, we
    use an adapted version of the Strickland standard to judge whether a criminal defendant
    received ineffective assistance of counsel during the course of a direct appeal. See
    Kargus v. State, 
    284 Kan. 908
    , 919, 
    169 P.3d 307
    (2007).
    "The situation contemplated by the third Ortiz exception is different, involving as
    it does the complete destruction of the right to pursue a direct appeal through counsel's
    failure to file a timely notice or otherwise protect his or her client's right. As recognized
    in Flores-Ortega, where appointed counsel said he or she would file a notice of appeal on
    behalf of the defendant but failed to do so, no 'presumption of reliability' can be afforded
    a 'proceeding . . . that never took place.' Thus, the two-part Strickland deficiency-plus-
    prejudice analysis must bend.
    "Under Flores-Ortega, if appointed or retained counsel has failed to file or
    perfect a direct appeal by a criminal defendant, we will presume the existence of
    prejudice. This is not, however, the same as a finding of prejudice per se, requiring
    application of the third Ortiz exception. The defendant must still demonstrate that, but for
    counsel's failure, he or she would have taken a timely direct appeal. The defendant need
    not show, as he or she would have had to show if we were using the Strickland standard
    as our benchmark, that such a timely direct appeal would have been successful. Compare
    
    Peguero, 526 U.S. at 30-31
    (O'Connor, J., concurring)." 
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 224-25
    .
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    In this case, neither the district judge presiding over the Ortiz hearing nor the
    Court of Appeals panel examined whether Shelly received ineffective assistance of
    counsel on the way to concluding that the third Ortiz exception was inapplicable.
    Specifically, the panel said:
    "The testimony at the remand hearing provides substantial competent evidence to
    support the district court's finding that Shelly did not direct Arnold to perfect an appeal of
    the sentencing order on April 6, 2012. Thus, it cannot be said that Shelly was furnished
    counsel for the purpose of an appeal who failed to perfect and complete the appeal.
    Rather, the evidence supports the district court's finding that Shelly simply decided not to
    pursue a timely appeal. Accordingly, the district court did not err in finding that the third
    Ortiz exception did not apply to the circumstances of Shelly's case." 
    49 Kan. App. 2d
    at
    950-51.
    In contrast, in the Perry case, the panel applied Patton when reviewing whether
    the third Ortiz exception applied, and it reached the opposite conclusion:
    "It is undisputed that Arnold and Perry discussed appellate options both before
    and after sentencing and that Perry did not request or direct Arnold to file an appeal.
    However, it is likewise undisputed that Arnold was unaware of our Supreme Court's
    decision in Snellings during the time period when Perry could have timely filed her
    appeal and, further, that had Perry been made aware of Snellings, she would have
    appealed.
    "Arnold incorrectly told Perry that there existed no legal grounds for an appeal.
    Had she been properly advised, Perry would have pursued the issue on direct appeal.
    Counsel's failure to learn of Snellings and advise his client accordingly was objectively
    unreasonable and deprived Perry of her right to file a direct appeal. Accordingly, there is
    substantial evidence to support Perry's claim under the third Ortiz exception that the
    failure of her counsel to correctly inform her of the state of the law amounts to a failure
    of counsel to file or perfect an appeal.
    23
    "Because Perry has met the narrow and exceptional circumstances required to
    claim an Ortiz exception, we treat Perry's filing as a timely direct appeal of her sentence,
    permitting us to reach the merits of her claim. See State v. Phinney, 
    280 Kan. 394
    , 406,
    
    122 P.3d 356
    (2005)." State v. Perry, No. 109,506, 
    2014 WL 6676044
    , at *3-4 (Kan.
    App. 2014) (unpublished opinion).
    Shelly, not surprisingly, believes he and his wife should be similarly treated. He
    urges us to follow the panel opinion in Perry and another panel's recent decision in
    Grazier v. State, No. 109,792, 
    2014 WL 5312851
    , at *3-4 (Kan. App. 2014) (unpublished
    opinion).
    Defendant Joseph Grazier pleaded no contest to unlawful possession of certain
    drug precursors or drug paraphernalia, and the sentence for the crime was based on
    classification as a severity level 2 felony. Although Snellings and Adams were pending on
    petition for review, Grazier decided not to appeal because defense counsel advised him
    there were no appealable issues. Grazier subsequently filed a K.S.A. 60-1507 motion,
    seeking application of Snellings and Adams. The district court denied the motion,
    reasoning that Grazier did not assert ineffective assistance of counsel and that there was
    no reason to apply the decisions in Snellings and Adams retroactively.
    Grazier appealed, and the Court of Appeals remanded for an Ortiz hearing in
    district court. At that hearing, defense counsel admitted to ignorance of Snellings and
    Adams at the time he advised Grazier that there were no issues worthy of appeal. The
    district judge ruled that the attorney's representation was reasonable and that the third
    Ortiz exception was inapplicable.
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    On appeal, the Court of Appeals panel reversed, saying:
    "What strikes us about this case is that had Grazier filed an appeal, it would have
    been pending when the Snellings and Adams Supreme Court opinions were filed.
    Undoubtedly, he would have received relief on his sentence. . . .
    "Actually, this is a question of fundamental fairness. The Supreme Court has
    stated:
    "'The . . . principle underlying all three exceptions recognized in
    Ortiz and its progeny is based on the facts that the defendant's failure to
    timely appeal was the result of being deprived of a right to which he or
    she was entitled by law: the statutory right to be advised of the right to
    appeal; the statutory right to be provided an attorney to file an appeal; or
    the right to have the appointed attorney perform effectively in perfecting
    the appeal.' (Emphasis added.) Guillory v. State, 
    285 Kan. 223
    , 228, 
    170 P.3d 403
    (2007).
    "We emphasize that the decision to appeal is left to the client and not the
    attorney. But to make an informed decision, the client must be informed correctly by [his
    or her] counsel. The appointed attorney here looked at case citations listed beneath the
    statutes and pronounced that there were no appealable issues. We find that meager effort
    to be substandard.
    "All legal advice must be considered within its context. In Laymon v. State, 
    280 Kan. 430
    , Syl. ¶ 3, 
    122 P.3d 326
    (2005), the Supreme Court opined that a lawyer's failure
    to foresee a change in the law may lead to K.S.A. 60-1507 relief if the failure was not
    objectively reasonable. We cannot see that counsel could have been unaware of the
    identical offense sentencing doctrine since it presented so many questions in the law of
    drug crimes in Kansas ever since the ruling in McAdam was handed down in 2004. Any
    attorney dealing with drug crimes and their sentences had to deal with the question of the
    applicability of the identical offense sentencing doctrine. We find it unreasonable that
    counsel did not at least tell Grazier of the doctrine. Had he done so and had Grazier
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    refrained from pursuing an appeal, at least Grazier's choice would have been an informed
    one.
    "In State v. Patton, 
    287 Kan. 200
    , 
    195 P.3d 753
    (2008), while looking at the third
    exception under Ortiz, the court adopted the standard of performance for an attorney as
    stated in Roe v. Flores-Ortega, 
    528 U.S. 470
    , [476-78], 
    120 S. Ct. 1029
    , 
    145 L. Ed. 2d 985
    (2000). . . .
    "We hold that Grazier's attorney was ineffective for failing to inform Grazier of
    the identical offense sentencing doctrine when discussing an appeal. The Snellings and
    Adams petitions for review had been granted and were available 10 months before
    Grazier was sentenced. McAdam was issued by the Supreme Court 7 years before Grazier
    was sentenced. While the listing of cases beneath each criminal statute in the supplements
    is helpful, they are truly limited. Published but annually, they cannot be considered
    comprehensive." 
    2014 WL 5312851
    at *3-4.
    To the Grazier panel, prejudice from counsel's deficient performance was self-
    evident, because Grazier should have been sentenced as a drug severity level 4 felon
    rather than as a drug severity level 2 felon. The panel thus vacated his sentence and
    remanded for resentencing. 
    2014 WL 5312851
    , at *4.
    No petition for review was filed in Grazier. See also Brown v. State, No. 110,887,
    
    2015 WL 1636714
    , at *1, 6 (Kan. App. 2015) (unpublished opinion), rev. denied 302
    Kan. __ (2015) (counsel ineffective for failing to discuss identical offense sentencing
    doctrine of Snellings with client to enable informed decision on whether to appeal). But
    see State v. Brown, No. 110,693, 
    2014 WL 5801178
    , at *3-4 (Kan. App. 2014)
    (unpublished opinion), rev. denied 302 Kan. __ (2015) (third Ortiz exception inapplicable
    even though counsel did not advise Brown about possibility of appealing offense severity
    level).
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    The key difference in the Shelly and Perry panel decisions is application of a
    Flores-Ortega ineffective assistance of counsel analysis. Where it happened, the
    defendant was entitled to take a late appeal; where it did not happen, the defendant's
    attempt to take a late appeal was stymied.
    We note that, in each case, the district judge who presided over the Ortiz hearing
    limited counsel's ability to question prior defense counsel about his unawareness of the
    Snellings decision. The district judge—and, eventually, the Shelly panel—obviously
    viewed the issue of ineffective assistance of counsel as completely separate from the
    issue of applicability of the third Ortiz exception. This view of the law was apparently
    encouraged by the State, who argued in response to the petition for review in this case
    that Shelly was attempting inappropriately to raise ineffective assistance for the first time
    by "couching" it in terms of a third Ortiz exception issue.
    This view of the law is erroneous. Patton makes clear that counsel's effectiveness
    is part and parcel of the third Ortiz exception. See State v. Patton, 
    287 Kan. 200
    , 218-19,
    
    195 P.3d 753
    (2008) ("The second and third exceptions—applicable when a defendant
    was not furnished an attorney to perfect an appeal or was furnished an attorney for that
    purpose who failed to perfect and complete an appeal—go to the right of counsel and
    effectiveness of counsel."). (Emphasis added.)
    Having established the link between ineffective assistance of counsel as
    determined under Flores-Ortega and the third Ortiz exception, we turn to the parties'
    arguments on whether Shelly has met the standard necessary to take a late appeal.
    The State would distinguish this case from Patton because Shelly did not
    expressly direct Arnold to file a direct appeal; rather, the record supports a mere inquiry
    about an appeal. Shelly counters this State argument by asserting that the onus of
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    knowing the law cannot be placed on a defendant. He argues that it should be enough that
    he was interested in taking an appeal, that he communicated his interest to Arnold, and
    that he relied on Arnold's expertise and advice when he dropped the idea of taking an
    appeal. This inaction on his part does not represent an informed decision, because he had
    not received reliable, accurate advice from his attorney. In its absence, he asserts, he
    should not be penalized; failure to direct an attorney to file a timely appeal should be
    excused when the attorney has incorrectly advised a defendant that there is "nothing to
    appeal."
    A review of how the federal circuit courts of appeal have treated facts similar to
    those before us provides persuasive guidance.
    In United States v. Kelley, 318 Fed. Appx. 682, 684 (10th Cir. 2009) (unpublished
    opinion), defense counsel told defendant Kenneth Kelley that entry of a plea and
    pronouncement of a sentence within guidelines would mean "there would be nothing left
    to appeal" and that only 2 percent of appeals are successful. After sentencing, Kelley
    asked defense counsel if he was going to take care of everything and defense counsel
    responded "yes." Kelley and defense counsel later expressed differing views on whether
    that exchange referenced a planned appeal.
    Because Kelley neither gave counsel explicit instructions to appeal nor ordered
    him not to appeal, the Tenth Circuit applied Flores-Ortega to determine if defense
    counsel "consulted" as necessary with Kelley about an appeal:
    "We do not believe that [counsel] Baker's statement that there would be nothing
    to appeal meets the Supreme Court's definition of 'consult.' As noted above, the Court
    requires counsel to advise 'the defendant about the advantages and disadvantages of
    taking an appeal, and mak[e] a reasonable effort to discover the defendant's wishes.'
    
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 478
    . Arguably, Mr. Baker's statement informed Mr. Kelley of
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    the disadvantages of taking an appeal—that he would probably lose. However, simply
    stating that a plea agreement would leave 'nothing to appeal' does not inform a defendant
    of any advantages of taking an appeal, nor does it make an effort to determine the
    defendant's wishes regarding an appeal, as the Supreme Court requires. In addition, such
    a statement is potentially misleading to a defendant who has not waived his appellate
    rights. For those reasons, we disagree with the district court's conclusion that Mr. Baker
    consulted with Mr. [Kelley] about an appeal." 318 Fed. Appx. at 686.
    Next, the Tenth Circuit considered whether there was reason to believe either that
    a rational defendant would desire an appeal or that Kelley demonstrated to counsel that
    he was interested in appealing. 318 Fed. Appx. at 686-87 (citing 
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 480
    ). The court thought it unlikely a rational defendant would want to appeal under the
    circumstances, but it nevertheless was reasonable to believe Kelley was interested in
    appealing because of his exchange with counsel at sentencing. "Mr. Kelley's question was
    not a direct request for an appeal[;] it was a reasonable demonstration of his desire that
    Mr. Baker take care of his legal matters, and the only remaining legal matter was a
    possible appeal." 318 Fed. Appx. at 687. This exchange, coupled with Kelley's later
    testimony about his desire to file an appeal, satisfied the prejudice element under Flores-
    Ortega; Kelley demonstrated a reasonable probability that, but for counsel's failure to
    consult with him about an appeal, he would have appealed. 318 Fed. Appx. at 688.
    In Thompson v. United States, 
    504 F.3d 1203
    (11th Cir. 2007), petitioner-appellant
    Richard Thompson and defense counsel had a 5-minute conversation after sentencing. The
    conversation established that Thompson was unhappy with his sentence, when it was
    compared to those given his codefendants. He asked counsel why the judge told him he
    could appeal when he had pleaded guilty, and counsel told him that he had a right to appeal
    but that it would not be worthwhile or successful. Thompson responded by saying,
    
    "'[F]ine.'" 504 F.3d at 1207
    .
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    When Thompson's case reached the Eleventh Circuit, the panel pointed out that
    counsel had not explained the advantages or disadvantages of taking an appeal, "nor that
    he was obligated to file an appeal if that [was] what Thompson wanted, regardless of his
    recommendation," before concluding the consultation was inadequate under Flores-
    Ortega:
    "The content of the exchange in this case did not constitute adequate
    consultation. Simply asserting the view that an appeal would not be successful does not
    constitute 'consultation' in any meaningful sense. No information was provided to
    Thompson from which he could have intelligently and knowingly either asserted or
    waived his right to an appeal. This record is clear that no reasonable effort was made to
    discover Thompson's informed wishes regarding an appeal. Under these circumstances,
    any waiver by Thompson of his right to appeal was not knowing and 
    voluntary." 504 F.3d at 1207
    .
    The Eleventh Circuit next held that a rational defendant would have wanted to
    appeal the disparate sentence and Thompson expressed a desire to appeal. Thompson also
    established the requisite prejudice because "[h]ad Counsel adequately consulted with him
    about an appeal, there is a reasonable probability that Thompson would have exercised
    his right to appeal." (Emphasis 
    added.) 504 F.3d at 1208
    .
    In a later Eleventh Circuit case, Speight v. United States, 427 Fed. Appx. 731
    (11th Cir. 2011) (unpublished opinion), petitioner-appellant Mackese Speight argued her
    defense counsel had been ineffective when she told Speight she had nothing to appeal
    after her guilty plea and sentencing. The Eleventh Circuit first held that counsel had a
    duty to consult under Flores-Ortega because Speight had not waived her appellate rights
    and had nonfrivolous issues to appeal. The court held that counsel's statement that
    Speight had nothing to appeal was inadequate consultation under Thompson and that
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    Speight was prejudiced because a reasonable probability existed that, but for counsel's
    deficiency, Speight would have taken a timely appeal. 427 Fed. Appx. at 733-34.
    In United States v. Malone, 442 Fed. Appx. 864 (4th Cir. 2011) (unpublished
    opinion), defendant-appellant Lonnie Malone expressed interest in appealing at his
    sentencing. In a subsequent meeting with Malone's son and in a letter, defense counsel
    said that he would not file a notice of appeal and that Malone probably would receive a
    longer sentence if he appealed.
    The Fourth Circuit held that the consultation was inadequate under Flores-Ortega
    because the advice was incorrect. Malone was not adequately advised of all of the
    circumstances surrounding a potential appeal; defense counsel stated he would not file an
    appeal on Malone's behalf; and defense counsel failed to follow up with Malone on
    whether he had received counsel's letter or had made a decision. The Fourth Circuit also
    concluded that Malone had made a sufficient showing that he would have appealed if
    defense counsel had properly consulted with him. 442 Fed. Appx. at 867-68.
    Holdings and analyses in other federal cases are in harmony with the reading and
    application of Flores-Ortega we have observed in Kelley, Thompson, Speight, and
    Malone. See United States v. Espinoza-Aguilar, 469 Fed. Appx. 663, 670 (10th Cir.
    2012) (unpublished opinion) ("Appellate counsel may be ineffective if he or she
    'unreasonably overlook[s] meritorious grounds for appeal.' [United States v.] Lopez, 100
    F.3d [113,] 119 [10 Cir. 1996]."); see also Ortega v. Gonzalez, 591 Fed. Appx. 528, 530
    (9th Cir. 2014) (unpublished opinion) (failure to advise of right to seek writ of mandate in
    California courts on nonfrivolous claim constitutes ineffective assistance under Flores-
    Ortega); Stanton v. United States, 397 Fed. Appx. 548, 549-50 (11th Cir. 2010)
    (unpublished opinion) (applying Thompson; consultation inadequate when client
    requested appeal after sentencing, merely nodded his head when counsel said no
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    appealable issues available); Cameron v. United States, No. 1:04-CR-42, 
    2012 WL 1150490
    , at *10 (E.D. Tenn. Apr. 5, 2012) (unpublished opinion) (no late appeal
    permitted when client fails to establish desire to appeal, nonfrivolous grounds for appeal).
    Applying the pattern of these federal cases here, we must begin with the fact that
    Shelly expressed a desire to appeal. He dropped the effort only when Arnold told him
    there was nothing to appeal. This is similar to what occurred in Kelley, Thompson,
    Speight, and Malone, and it is different from directing defense counsel not to appeal. It
    places this case squarely within the Flores-Ortega analysis we adopted in Patton.
    The next inquiry is whether defense counsel adequately consulted with Shelly. Roe
    v. Flores-Ortega, 
    528 U.S. 470
    , 478, 
    120 S. Ct. 1029
    , 
    145 L. Ed. 2d 985
    (2000). While
    defense counsel clearly articulated the disadvantages of taking an appeal, he did not
    advise Shelly of the advantages, i.e., preserving an argument in favor of application of the
    identical offense sentencing doctrine. The minimal advice given—that there was nothing
    to appeal—unreasonably overlooked at least potentially meritorious grounds for appeal
    and did not allow Shelly to knowingly and intelligently waive his right to appeal. The
    consultation was thus inadequate.
    Because a rational defendant in Shelly's place would want to appeal on the
    Snellings identical offense issue, a duty to consult existed. 
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 480
    . Moreover, Shelly expressed a contemporaneous interest in appealing and implied in
    his later testimony that he would have appealed if he had been advised about Snellings.
    This substantial competent evidence satisfies Flores-Ortega's requirement of both a duty
    to consult and prejudice. 
    Flores-Ortega, 528 U.S. at 485-86
    . Under Patton, Shelly need
    not further demonstrate that he would have succeeded on the merits to invoke the third
    Ortiz exception. 
    Patton, 287 Kan. at 225
    . It is enough that counsel's objectively
    unreasonable performance prevented Shelly from filing a timely appeal.
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    IDENTICAL OFFENSE SENTENCING DOCTRINE
    Shelly has argued that, like his codefendant wife, Perry, he is entitled to
    application of the identical offense doctrine to his sentence for unlawful distribution of a
    drug precursor. See Perry, 
    2014 WL 6676044
    , at *5. The doctrine requires that "where
    two offenses have identical elements, an offender can be sentenced to only the less severe
    penalty applying to the two offenses." State v. Snellings, 
    294 Kan. 149
    , 150, 
    273 P.3d 739
    (2012).
    Shelly's petition for review listed only one issue, and it did not focus on the merits
    of this issue. The petition was limited to the question of whether Shelly was entitled to
    take a late direct appeal. Any encouragement to reach the merits contained in his
    supplemental brief does not expand the issues before us. We have decided the issue
    raised by the petition in his favor, allowing him to rely upon the third Ortiz exception to
    take a late appeal. Having disposed of that issue, we remand to the Court of Appeals for
    consideration of the merits of the identical offense sentencing doctrine arguments of the
    parties. The Court of Appeals indicated that it would permit briefing on the merits if
    Shelly overcame the late appeal issue, and we assume it will do so on remand.
    CONCLUSION
    We reverse the Court of Appeals' dismissal of Shelly's appeal. The third Ortiz
    exception allowing a late appeal applies. We remand this case to the Court of Appeals for
    consideration of whether Shelly is entitled to application of the identical offense doctrine
    to reduce his sentence for unlawful distribution of a drug precursor.
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    STEGALL, J., not participating.
    W. LEE FOWLER, District Judge, assigned.1
    1
    REPORTER'S NOTE: District Judge Fowler was appointed to hear case No. 109,292
    vice Justice Stegall under the authority vested in the Supreme Court by art. 3, § 6(f) of
    the Kansas Constitution.
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