John Tim Jenkins v. Commonwealth of Kentucky ( 2010 )


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    JOHN TIM JENKINS                                                      APPELLANT
    ON REVIEW FROM COURT OF APPEALS
    V.                 CASE NO . 2006-CA-000158-MR
    WOODFORD CIRCUIT COURT NOS. 04-CR-00005 & 04-CR-00034
    COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY                                               APPELLEE
    OPINION OF THE COURT BY JUSTICE SCHRODER
    REVERSING AND REMANDING
    Through this appeal, we recognize the admissibility of expert testimony
    regarding suggestive interviewing techniques which can affect the reliability or
    accuracy of a child witness's memory or recall . Consequently, because
    significant evidence of improper methods existed in this case, the trial court
    erred in denying the defense's request to call an expert witness on the subject .
    Therefore, we reverse the conviction and remand for a new trial consistent with
    this opinion .
    In 2001, Appellant, John Tim Jenkins, a married father of three, became
    a volunteer with the Central Kentucky Big Brothers program . At the time,
    Jenkins was the Engineering Manager at the Osram Sylvania plant in
    Versailles, Kentucky . Jenkins testified that he had been a Big Brother, and his
    wife a Big Sister, many years earlier (before they had their own children), and
    had enjoyed it. Jenkins testified that with his son leaving for college, and his
    wife and two teenage daughters involved in dance (and not interested in going
    to ballgames), he decided to get involved with Big Brothers again .
    Jenkins completed the extensive Big Brothers application and screening
    process, and was matched with a "little brother," J .S., then six years old, in
    September, 2001 . J .S .'s parents were divorced . J .S . lived with his mother in
    Woodford County, Kentucky, during the school year, and spent summers with
    his father in Georgia. As his Big Brother, Jenkins would do various activities
    with J .S., including taking him to ballgames, bike riding, swimming, and to the
    movies. J .S . would also occasionally eat dinner at the Jenkins' home with
    Jenkins and his wife and family. As part of Big Brothers' standard procedure,
    periodic reviews were conducted with J .S . and his mother, concerning the
    match with Jenkins . Neither J .S . nor his mother ever expressed any concerns .
    In the reviews, the mother reported that J .S. talked about Jenkins a lot and
    looked forward to their activities together, that J .S. had fun with Jenkins, and
    that J .S . would be happy and excited after returning from his activities with
    Jenkins . Jenkins had been J.S .'s Big Brother for two years, with no concerns .
    The questionable events giving rise to this case began after work on
    October 8, 2003, when Jenkins took J. S, then eight years old, and his friend
    B .F., then six years old, on a planned swimming outing at the Falling Springs
    Arts and Recreation Center in Versailles, Kentucky . Jenkins and the boys
    arrived at approximately 7 :15 p.m. Jenkins and the boys first swam in the
    smaller pool (the Center has two pools) . Brittany King and Megan Davenport,
    two lifeguards on duty, became suspicious of the way Jenkins was playing with
    the boys, in that he was swimming up under them and lifting them up out of
    the water. King also thought it looked like Jenkins was "nibbling on their
    thighs." King asked her supervisor, Greg Shanks, to observe . Shanks watched
    Jenkins and the boys, and saw nothing of concern .
    Nevertheless, King and Davenport continued to watch the three
    attentively. After the three went to the big pool, King and Davenport again
    observed Jenkins swimming up under the boys and lifting them out of the
    water. They also thought Jenkins was kissing the boys on their faces and legs .
    While the three were playing in the pool, there was another family in the pool,
    the swim team and dive team were also practicing, and people were watching
    from the bleachers . No one else expressed any concern about Jenkins and the
    boys.
    King and Davenport also expressed their concerns to the head lifeguard,
    Roger Maybrier. Maybrier looked in on Jenkins and the boys in the pool . He
    recognized that the three were playing a game of "shark" or "alligator," where
    one person pretends to be the shark or alligator, and the others try to swim
    across the pool without getting "eaten." Maybrier was not concerned.
    When the three were finished swimming, Shanks followed them into the
    locker room. Jenkins and J.S . were using the shower in the handicapped
    shower stall, and B.F. was in the adjoining shower stall. The shower curtain
    was not completely drawn, so Shanks looked into the shower. He could see
    that Jenkins and J.S . were naked . Shanks did not see any physical contact
    between the two . Shanks went to get Maybrier, and when the two came back,
    B .F . had joined Jenkins and J .S. in the handicapped shower. Again, the
    curtain was not all the way closed, and both looked in . J .S. was sitting on the
    floor of the shower, B .F. was on one side of the shower, and Jenkins was on the
    other side. They looked into the stall several times but never saw any physical
    contact between Jenkins and either boy. Maybrier and Shanks decided to let
    Jenkins know someone was in there, by being loud and opening and closing
    lockers .
    When the water stopped, B .F. came out of the shower first . Shanks
    asked who he came with . B .F. said Jenkins was "Big Brother Big Sister."
    Shanks asked B .F. if he was having a good time, and he said he was. Because
    Jenkins was not a relative, Shanks and Maybrier suspected that something
    "fishy" was going on, and called the police .
    Police officers arrived at the pool at approximately 8 p.m., and
    immediately separated Jenkins from the boys. Six-year-old B.F. was driven
    home in a police car and turned over to his mother. Eight-year-old J .S . was
    taken in a police car to the Versailles Police Department. Detective Rick Qualls
    was on call, and arrived at the Versailles police station at approximately 10 :30
    p .m . When Qualls arrived, J .S., scared and crying, was sitting in the break
    room. Because the break room was noisy, Qualls decided to have J.S .
    transported to the Woodford County police station, where it would be quieter.
    J.S . was again taken in a police car, to the Woodford County police station,
    arriving at about 11 :00 p.m. J.S . was scared and wanted his mother. A social
    worker and J .S.'s mother arrived shortly thereafter . Qualls informed the,
    mother that he was concerned J.S . may have been sexually abused because of
    the lifeguards' suspicions, and because Jenkins had been reported nude in the
    shower with J .S . Qualls basically testified that he thought he knew what
    happened but that he needed to hear it from J.S.
    Detective Qualls was not specialized in interviewing children . Qualls
    began interviewing eight-year-old J .S. around midnight . His mother was not
    allowed to be present during the interview. For the first half-hour, J.S. denied
    that Jenkins had done anything sexually inappropriate.' Qualls would not
    accept J .S .'s denials, and would not let him go home. After unrelenting and
    suggestive questioning, J .S., who had been to school that day and was very
    For example:
    Qualls (referring to J.S. and Jenkins being in the shower): And did you touch
    his private parts?
    J. S . : No.
    Qualls : Did he touch your private parts?                   _
    J. S : No.
    Qualls : What about when you were in the pool and you all were swimming?
    J. S . : No.
    Qualls : No? Someone told me that there may have been some touching
    there.
    J. S . : No .
    tired, finally agreed with Qualls' suggestion that he had been touched once . 2
    Qualls ended the interview around 1 :30-2 :00 a.m. and released J .S . to his
    mother. Much of the interview was tape recorded. The next morning, Qualls
    and the social worker visited J .S . at his home for a second interview, which
    was tape recorded as well . J .S . agreed with Qualls' suggestion that there was a
    second touching. On January 7, 2004, a four-count indictment was returned
    against Jenkins . 3 The indictment charged two counts of first-degree sexual
    abuse of J .S ., and two counts of indecent exposure for showering in the nude
    in the presence of J .S . and B.F.
    Following the allegations of October S, 2003, J.S. was put into sex abuse
    therapy. J .S. saw a therapist at least once a week, and attended group therapy
    as well. On March l, 2004, J .S . was taken to the Children's Advocacy Center,
    where he was interviewed by a forensic interviewer. Based on statements
    elicited in this interview, a second indictment was returned charging Jenkins
    with two counts of sodomy . 4 The indictments were consolidated for trial.
    At trial, the defense proposed to call Dr. Terence Campbell, a forensic
    psychologist, to testify concerning improper interviewing techniques which can
    result in unreliable reporting by child witnesses . Dr . Campbell had reviewed
    2 Even though J.S. had denied any inappropriate touching up to this point, he was not given
    the option of "none" : only once or more than once.
    Qualls : You touched him just once . He touched you just once or has it been more than
    once .
    J.S. : Once .
    3 No. 04-CR-00005
    4 No. 04-CR-00034
    all of the discovery provided by the Commonwealth, including the interviews of
    J .S. He had prepared a lengthy report, and was prepared to testify as an
    expert witness that improper methods were used in this case. The
    Commonwealth objected to Dr. Campbell's proposed testimony. The trial court
    held an extensive Daubert 5 hearing on the matter . Dr. Campbell testified at
    length, both as to his qualifications as an expert, and as to the scientific
    acceptance of the principle that suggestive interviewing techniques can affect
    the reliability or accuracy of a child's memory or recall. Then, Dr. Campbell
    analyzed the interviewing techniques used in this case, pointing out serious
    improprieties .
    Following the Daubert hearing, the trial court agreed with the
    Commonwealth's objection to Dr. Campbell's testimony under a belief that,
    notwithstanding compliance with Daubert, Kentucky law prohibited this type of
    testimony . Because the trial court would not allow Dr. Campbell to testify, the
    defense requested that the tape of the interviews be played for the jury, so that
    the jury could decide if the allegations were made by J .S., or, only in response
    to prompting and suggestions by Qualls . The Commonwealth objected to the
    playing of the tape, and the trial court sustained the Commonwealth's
    objection.
    The trial court granted a directed verdict on the indecent exposure
    charge involving B .F. Jenkins was found guilty of one count of first-degree
    sexual abuse of J.S ., allegedly occurring on October 8, 2003, at Falling
    5 Daubert v.   Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 509 U .S. 579 (1993) .
    Springs, and one count of indecent exposure, as to J .S ., in the shower at
    Falling Springs; and not guilty of all remaining charges. The trial court
    sentenced Jenkins, in accordance with the jury's recommendation, to five years
    on the sexual abuse conviction, and a $250 fine for indecent exposure .
    Jenkins appealed his convictions to the Court of Appeals on a number of
    grounds. The Court of Appeals held that Dr. Campbell's testimony was not
    precluded by Kentucky law, and remanded to the trial court to make findings
    under KRE 702 . The Court of Appeals rejected the other errors . Jenkins
    moved for discretionary review, which we granted.6 The issues before this
    Court are: the admissibility of expert evidence of suggestive interview
    techniques with children; the admissibility of the interview tapes; and the
    sufficiency of the evidence to support the indecent exposure conviction .
    Because we are remanding for a new trial, the remaining issues are moot.
    ADMISSIBILITY OF EXPERT TESTIMONY
    Jenkins contends that the trial court erred in prohibiting his expert from
    testifying at the trial regarding the suggestive interviewing procedures used in
    this case . As stated earlier, the defense attempted to call Dr. Terence
    Campbell, a highly qualified forensic psychologist, to provide expert testimony
    on the scientific principle that improper interviewing practices can result in
    6 The trial court held a full Daubert hearing, and there is a fully developed record on this issue
    sufficient for appellate review of admissibility under KRE 702 . Therefore, a remand for the
    purpose of further findings was not necessary . Miller v. Eldridge, 146 S .W .3d 909, 922 (Ky.
    2004); Commonwealth v. Christie, 
    98 S.W.3d 485
    (Ky. 2002) . The Commonwealth does not
    contend that a remand was necessary.
    unreliable allegations, and the improper practices which were used in this
    KRE 702 allows a qualified expert to testify in the form of an opinion or
    otherwise with respect to scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge,
    provided that the testimony is scientifically reliable and will assist the trier of
    fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue. This requires a
    trial court to make a preliminary determination that the evidence is both
    relevant and reliable . Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. v. Thompson, 11 S .W.3d
    575, 578 (Ky. 2000) . In Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 509 U .S .
    579, 592-94 (1993), the United States Supreme Court set forth a non-exclusive
    list of factors to be considered when assessing the reliability of an expert's
    proferred testimony: (1) whether a theory or technique can be and has been
    tested; (2) whether the theory or technique has been subjected to peer review
    and publication ; (3) whether, with respect to a particular technique, there is a
    high known or potential rate of error and whether there are standards
    controlling the technique's operation; and (4) whether the technique enjoys
    general acceptance within the relevant scientific, technical, or other specialized
    community. Goodyear, 11 S .W .3d at 578-79 ; see also Toyota Motor Corp. v.
    Gregory, 136 S .W.3d 35, 39-40 (Ky. 2004) .
    The trial court held a Daubert hearing on Dr. Campbell's proposed
    testimony. Dr. Campbell first testified to his qualifications . 7 Dr. Campbell had
    7 Dr. Campbell testified that he received his Ph .D . in Human Development and Clinical
    Psychology from the University of Maryland in 1970, and completed an internship in clinical
    psychology at the National Institute of Mental Health in Washington, D.C. Since 1970, he has
    prepared a thirty-eight page report which outlined the scientific principles
    upon which he relied, and application of such to the interviews in this case,
    which was entered as an exhibit by avowal . For purposes of this opinion, we
    summarize Dr . Campbell's testimony at the Daubert hearing, and his lengthy
    report: It is not only generally, but "absolutely", accepted in the psychological
    community that young children are highly susceptible to suggestion, and that
    improper interviewing methods create a serious risk of unreliable responses
    and inaccurate recall, including false allegations of sexual abuse . Improper
    interviewing techniques include interviewer bias, leading or suggestive
    questions, coercive or "forced-choice" questions, repeated questions, and
    repeated interviews .$ A child's memory and recall can become profoundly
    researched and studied extensively in the area of human memory and recall, with emphasis in
    the area of proper and improper questioning methods of children with regard to sexual abuse
    allegations. Dr . Campbell has authored or co-authored five books related to forensic
    psychology . He has authored or co-authored at least forty peer-reviewed articles in the area of
    forensic psychology in general, and at least half a dozen peer-reviewed articles in the specific
    area of suggestive interview techniques in child abuse cases, which have been published in
    various professional and scientific journals. Dr Campbell acknowledged that he has been
    recognized as an expert on the subject matter at issue in courts throughout the United States
    and his testimony thereon admitted under the Daubert standard .
    8 Detective Qualls went into the interview assuming that J.S. had been molested and seeking to
    confirm this assumption . He would not accept J .S .'s denials as the truth. Qualls responded
    favorably to J .S. when he would agree with what was suggested.
    Dr. Campbell explained:
    Investigative interviews can go astray when they respond to
    interviewer bias pursuing one hypothesis and one hypothesis
    alone . Under no circumstances [can interviewers] resort to
    suggestive questions asked repeatedly. And when you start
    directing variations of the same question to a child and asking
    those question variations time and time again, you send a
    message to the child that says I'm less than enthusiastic with
    how you are answering this question . That's how children will
    interpret it. And the child's interpretation is I've got to get this
    right, and to get this right I have to change my answer. And
    under those circumstances, without intending to, with no
    distorted by such techniques . Once a child's memory has become distorted in
    this way, rehabilitation through a later, proper interview is nearly impossible .
    Dr. Campbell explained:
    [Rehabilitation] is very, very unlikely because what
    happens, when children are interviewed in a biased,
    leading manner, [they] experience [what are] called
    source monitoring problems[.] [T]he source monitoring
    problems refer to the inability of the child to accurately
    discriminate between on the one hand events that are
    accurately recalled, versus on the other hand events
    that are only imagined .          So what happens is
    inappropriate biased interviews suggest events to
    children that they imagine . The more the children are
    asked about these imaginary events, the more the
    child visualizes the imaginary events . The more the
    child imagines these imaginary events, the more
    familiar the events become . As events become more
    familiar, the child becomes genuinely and sincerely
    convinced that he is reporting accurate recall when in
    fact all he is doing is describing imaginary events that
    have been suggested to him via repeated leading
    suggestive questions. 9
    Dr. Campbell testified that the aforementioned principles are based on
    accepted science in the field of human memory and recall . The principles are
    supported by longstanding and unanimous scientific research, can be and have
    premeditated malice whatsoever, an interviewer can lead a child
    into confirming the interviewer's apriori expectations that the
    interviewer took into the interview.
    9 Because the child truly believes the suggested version, cross-examination of a child whose
    memory has been affected by suggestive interviewing is ineffective. See, e.g., State v. Sargent,
    
    738 A.2d 351
    , 353 (N.H . 1999) ("Furthermore, if a child witness sincerely believes that the
    suggested sexual abuse actually occurred, cross-examination of that child witness may not
    effectively test the reliability of the child's recollection .") ; Barlow v. State, 507 S.E .2d 416, 418
    (Ga. 1998) (recognizing that cross-examination may be ineffective where child sincerely believes
    false recollections) ; State v. Kirschbaum, 
    535 N.W.2d 462
    , 467 (Wis. Ct. App. 1995) ("[C]ross-
    examination of a child witness could be ineffectual if the child sincerely takes his or her
    recollections to be grounded in facts and does not remember the improper interview procedures
    which may have suggested them.") .
    been empirically tested, and continue to be supported by accumulating
    laboratory data . The principles have been subjected to peer review and
    publication, and are not only generally, but emphatically, accepted in the
    psychological community, and have been for years. Dr. Campbell's report,
    entered as an exhibit to the Daubert hearing, expanded upon his testimony,
    and included extensive citation to peer-reviewed research and specific studies
    (and the methodology employed therein) and how the studies illustrated the
    principles to which he testified .
    Dr. Campbell then proceeded to apply these accepted principles to the
    interviews in this case. Because this case is being remanded for retrial, it is
    sufficient to say that, in his review of the interviews, Dr . Campbell identified
    numerous instances of improper techniques, including interviewer bias, and
    suggestive, leading, repeated, coercive and forced-choice questioning.
    Following the hearing, the trial court ruled that, Daubert
    notwithstanding, it did not believe that expert testimony of improper or
    suggestive questioning of children was admissible in Kentucky, on grounds
    that its purpose would be to show that a witness was not being truthful, which
    would be an improper comment on credibility . It is well established that the
    credibility of witnesses, including children, is a matter for the jury., See Estep
    v. Commonwealth, 957 S .W.2d 191, 193 (Ky. 1997) . Credibility refers to
    whether a witness is being truthful or untruthful . The proferred expert
    testimony did not run afoul of this rule. Similar to expert testimony involving
    eyewitness identification, expert testimony that a witness was subjected to
    suggestive interview techniques pertains to the reliability or accuracy of the
    witness's belief or recollection, not to the truthfulness or untruthfulness of the
    witness. Cf. Commonwealth v. Christie, 
    98 S.W.3d 485
    (Ky. 2002) (expert
    eyewitness identification testimony) . To the contrary, such evidence assumes
    the witness is testifying truthfully - but may be mistaken in his or her belief.
    Accordingly, the trial court erred in ruling the evidence was inadmissible as a
    matter of law.
    The Court of Appeals correctly noted that the analysis is simply whether
    the expert evidence is admissible under KRE 702 . While this Court has not
    had occasion to consider the admissibility of expert testimony on improper
    interviewing techniques, numerous other jurisdictions which have done so
    recognize expert testimony in this area be admissible . 10 See, e.g., Barlow v.
    State, 507 S .E.2d 416 (Ga. 1998) (defendant in child molestation case entitled
    to introduce expert testimony as to proper techniques for interviewing children
    and whether the techniques actually utilized were proper) ; State v. Gersin, 668
    N .E .2d 486 (Ohio 1996) (trial court erred in refusing to admit expert testimony
    regarding established protocols for interviewing children); State v. Sloan, 912
    S .W.2d 592 (Mo . Ct. App. 1995) (reversible error for trial court to exclude
    to In Stringer v. Commonwealth, we held that the trial court did not err in excluding expert
    testimony on suggestibility, because there was no evidence that any suggestive or improper
    interview practices occurred . Hence, the testimony was irrelevant . 
    956 S.W.2d 883
    (Ky. 1997).
    In Pendleton v. Commonwealth, we held, applying the Snodgrass factors, that the trial court did
    not err in denying a last minute continuance in order for a defendant to obtain an expert
    witness on suggestibility . 
    83 S.W.3d 522
    (Ky. 2002). Pendleton did not hold that such
    testimony was inadmissible .
    expert testimony on unreasonably suggestive interview techniques and
    methods) ; United States v. LeBlanc, 
    45 F. App'x 393
    (6th Cir . 2002) (recognizing
    same Dr. Campbell's testimony met Daubert standard); State v. Wigg, 
    889 A.2d 233
    , 239 (Vt. 2005) ("[A] large majority of courts have held that the type of
    general expert evidence introduced in this case, explaining the proper and
    improper methods of examining children who may be victims of sexual assault,
    is admissible."); State v. Speers, 
    98 P.3d 560
    , 562 (Ariz. Ct. App. 2004) ("[T]he
    trial court erred by refusing to allow Defendant to present expert testimony on
    the subject of the proper protocols for interviewing young children to avoid
    suggestiveness and the implanting of false memories ."); Commonwealth v.
    Delbridge, 
    855 A.2d 27
    (Pa. 2003) (recognizing possible compromise of child
    witness testimony due to suggestive questioning) ; State v. Michaels, 
    642 A.2d 1372
    , 1384 (N.J. 1994) ("Experts may thus be called to aid the jury by
    explaining the coercive or suggestive propensities of the interviewing
    techniques employed . . . .") ; State v. Sargent, 
    738 A.2d 351
    (N .H . 1999)
    (permitting expert testimony on the possibility of false memory implantation in
    children through improper and suggestive interview techniques) ; State v.
    Kirschbaum, 535 N .W.2d. 462, 466-67 (Wis . Ct. App. 1995) (recognizing utility
    of expert testimony on suggestive interview techniques which can undermine
    the reliability of a child's account of events) .
    Having reviewed the extensive record in this case, including the Daubert
    hearing and Dr. Campbell's report, we opine the trial court erred in excluding
    his testimony . KRE 702 . Dr . Campbell was eminently qualified to testify as to
    the subject matter (his qualifications were undisputed) . Dr. Campbell's
    uncontroverted testimony and lengthy report clearly satisfied the Daubert
    standard to establish the scientific reliability of the principle that suggestive
    interviewing techniques can affect the reliability or accuracy of a child's
    memory or recall . In fact, the Commonwealth does not dispute the scientific
    reliability of Dr. Campbell's proposed testimony on appeal ." Dr. Campbell's
    testimony was highly relevant, as there was significant evidence that improper
    interviewing practices were used in this case . Stringer v. Commonwealth held it
    was not error for the trial court to exclude the same Dr. Campbell's testimony
    on grounds that the interviews were not recorded, and, without the interviews,
    it would be mere speculation to conclude the interview techniques were
    improper. 956 S .W .2d 883, 892 (Ky. 1997) . Hence, in Stringer, the expert
    testimony was not relevant. 
    Id. As the
    Court of Appeals recognized, this case
    does not have the impediment of Stringer, because in this case, the interviews
    were recorded. Dr. Campbell was able to review the recorded interviews, and
    apply the science directly to the interviews . Finally, we conclude, as have
    many of our sister states, that the testimony would assist the trier of fact, as
    the theories and principles are not within the knowledge of the average juror.
    11The Commonwealth in its brief before this Court agrees that Dr. Campbell could "testify that
    certain studies have shown that improper questioning techniques, i.e., leading questions, can
    result in unreliable reporting of sexual abuse by child witnesses." However, the
    Commonwealth objects to Dr. Campbell's testifying that he reviewed the transcripts of the
    interviews and that improper methods were, in fact, used upon J.S. in this case. Per Stringer,
    however, it is the application of the principles to the facts of the case that makes the expert's
    testimony relevant . 
    Stringer, 956 S.W.2d at 892
    .
    See Barlow, 507 S .E.2d at 417-18 (recognizing that effect of interviewing
    techniques on children is a subject not within knowledge of a lay juror) ; State
    v. Huntley, 
    177 P.3d 1001
    , 1008 (Kan. Ct. App. 2008) (recognizing that proper
    protocols and interview techniques for children is a matter not within
    knowledge of average juror) ; Sloan, 912 S .W.2d at 597 ("However, the crux of
    [the expert's] testimony was intended to show that a substantial portion of the
    questions asked by [the detective] . . . were ``inappropriate .' This represents
    evidence only an expert could give on matters not within the knowledge of a
    juror.") (footnote omitted) ; Sargent, 738 A .2d at 354 ("Instead, we agree with
    those jurisdictions that find that the proper protocols and techniques used to
    interview child victim witnesses is a matter not within the knowledge and
    understanding of the average juror.") ; 
    Gersin, 668 N.E.2d at 488
    ("Most jurors
    lack the knowledge of accepted practices in interviewing child victims, and
    expert testimony on the issue is therefore admissible .") ; Kirschbaum, 535
    N .W.2d at 467 (how improper interview techniques may have affected reliability
    of child's recollections is a subject with which a lay juror may be unfamiliar) .
    Accordingly, the trial court erred in not allowing Dr. Campbell to testify
    as to the suggestive interview techniques used in this case . There was no
    evidence of sexual abuse, other than allegations which occurred only after
    highly suggestive interviews conducted by the untrained Detective Qualls.
    Accordingly, the error is not harmless, and we must reverse and remand for a
    new trial.
    ADMISSIBILITY OF INTERVIEW TAPES
    When the trial court would not allow Dr. Campbell to testify, the defense
    sought to introduce the tape recordings of Detective Qualls' interviews with
    J.S ., through Detective Qualls on cross-examination. The Commonwealth
    objected on hearsay grounds. The defense explained that it was not offering
    the recordings for the truth of the matter asserted therein (that the statements
    made by Qualls and J .S. on the tapes were true) but for the non-hearsay
    purpose of showing the suggestive and coercive manner in which the interviews
    were conducted, and as proof of the unreliability of the allegations by showing
    that they arose not from J.S., but as a result of suggestions and prompting by
    the detective.
    The trial court erred in not allowing the tape recordings to be introduced .
    The taped interviews were not being offered for the truth of the matter asserted,
    nor to impeach J. S . The tapes were offered as proof that the investigation was
    flawed from the very beginning, by showing the coercive and suggestive manner
    in which the interviews were conducted and the allegations obtained . This is a
    proper, non-hearsay use . See Norton v. Commonwealth, 890 S .W.2d 632, 635
    (Ky. App. 1994) . On retrial, the recorded interviews would be admissible.
    INDECENT EXPOSURE
    Jenkins was also convicted of indecent exposure, arising from testimony
    that he removed his clothing and was naked in the presence of J.S . in the
    shower at Falling Springs . Jenkins argues that the trial court should have
    granted a directed verdict on this charge .
    At the time of Jenkins' indictment, the indecent exposure statute read as
    follows : "A person is guilty of indecent exposure when he intentionally exposes
    his genitals under circumstances in which he knows or should know his
    conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm ." KRS 510 .150. 12 On a motion for
    directed verdict, the trial court must draw all fair and reasonable inferences
    from the evidence in favor of the Commonwealth . Commonwealth v. Benham,
    816 S.W .2d 186, 187 (Ky. 1991) . "On appellate review, the test of a directed
    verdict is, if under the evidence as a whole, it would be clearly unreasonable for
    a jury to find guilt, only then the defendant is entitled to a directed verdict of
    acquittal ." 
    Id. Viewing the
    evidence in the light most favorable to the Commonwealth,
    Jenkins, J .S ., and B .F. entered the Falling Springs locker room after swimming
    to take a shower. Jenkins removed his swimming trunks, and showered in the
    same handicapped stall as J .S., who had also removed his trunks . B.F. had
    removed his trunks, and started showering in a different stall, but then joined
    Jenkins and J .S. in the handicapped shower. There was no evidence that
    Jenkins removed his swimming trunks for any purpose other than to take a
    shower and change clothes . In addition, the boys' testimony provided no
    evidence that the removal of Jenkins' swimming trunks had any effect on either
    of them. Indeed, the two employees who were watching the three in the shower
    12 The statute was amended
    post-indictment to differentiate between first- and second-degree
    indecent exposure based on the age of the victim . See 2004 Ky. Acts 190; KRS 510 .148
    (indecent exposure in the first degree) ; KRS 510.150 (indecent exposure in the second degree).
    described the three as taking showers in the nude. Male nudity in a men's
    locker room with showers is certainly not unusual, and standing alone, it is not
    likely to cause affront or alarm, and is not a crime.
    Because the Commonwealth did not present evidence that would prove
    all elements of indecent exposure, only nudity in a public shower, it would be
    clearly unreasonable for a jury to find guilt. Accordingly, the trial court erred
    in denying a directed verdict on this charge.
    For the foregoing reasons, we reverse Jenkins' convictions and remand
    the case to the trial court for a new trial consistent with this opinion .
    Minton, C .J . ; Cunningham, Noble, Schroder, Scott, and Venters, JJ.,
    sitting. All concur. Abramson, J., not sitting.
    COUNSEL FOR APPELLANT:
    J. Guthrie True
    Samuel Ryan Newcomb
    Johnson, True 8v Guarnieri, LLP
    326 West Main Street
    Frankfort, KY 40601
    COUNSEL FOR APPELLEE:
    Jack Conway
    Attorney General
    David Wayne Barr
    Assistant Attorney General
    Office of Attorney General
    Office of Criminal Appeals
    1024 Capital Center Drive
    Frankfort, KY 40601-8204