Matter of M.L.H. H.M.H. R.H. ( 1986 )


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  •                                    No. 85-276
    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF MONTANA
    1986
    IN THE MATTER OF DECLARING
    M.L.H., H.M.H., and R.H.,
    Youths in Need of Ca-re.
    APPEAL FROM:        The District Court of the Twentieth Judicial District,
    In and for the County of Lake,
    The Honorable C.B. McNeil, Judge presiding.
    COUNSEL OF RECORD:
    For Appellant:
    French, Nercer, Grainey & Duckworth; Edward R .
    Duckworth, Polson, Montana
    For Respondent :
    Hon. Mike Greely, Attorney General, Helena, Montana
    Joe Roberts, Asst. Atty. General, Helena
    John Frederick, County Attorney, Polson, Monta.na
    Larry Nistler, Deputy County Atty., Polson
    For Arnicus/Gua.rdian Ad Litem:
    Matthew O'NeiJ-1; Christian, McCurdy   G   Wold, Polson,
    Montana
    Submitted on Briefs: Nov. 21, 1985
    Decided:   February 25, 1986
    F f B .4 ;'s 1986
    Filed:
    Mr. Justice William E. Hunt, Sr., delivered the Opinion of
    the Court.
    Following an adjud.icatory hearing the Twentieth Judicial
    District, Lake County District Court declared M.L.H.,         H.M.H.
    and R.H.   youths in need of care.       Their parents appeal the
    adjudicatory    order    and   the   dispositional   order   of   the
    District Court placing the children in two separate foster
    homes.
    We reverse and remand for proceedings consistent with
    this opinion.
    The parents present these issues for review:
    1.   Whether      the District Court committed reversible
    error in failing to make a record of an in-chambers interview
    of the children.
    2.   Whether the District Court's findings of fact and
    conclusions of     1.aw are    supported by   sufficient evidence.
    3.   Whether the District Court erred by indicating at
    the adjudicatory hearing that it intended to transfer custody
    of the children from the parents to the Department of Social
    Rehabilitation and Services.
    The children, through their guardian ad ].item, present
    the   following questions in their brief as amicus curiae:
    1.    Whether     certain documentary   evidence   should be
    disregarded as ina.dmissible hearsay.
    2.   Whether the District Court erred in placing the
    three children in two separate foster homes.
    The appellant parents are both disabled by illness.         The
    father, a retired dairy farm worker, is 67 years old and
    suffers from emphysema.         The mother is 46 years old and
    suffers from obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, and an
    old back injury.    Their sole support is from social security
    payments which total approximately $775 per month.
    The appellants have six children.      Three are concerned
    in this proceeding: M.L.H.,     a female, age 13;       H.M.H.,    a
    female, a.ge 12;    and R.H.,   a   male, age   11.   The record
    contains little reference to the other three children.        They
    are two females and a male in their late teens.
    The appellants own a small house and an adjoining lot.
    This house has two bedrooms, a living room, a kitchen, and a
    bathroom.     The six children share one bedroom and also use
    the living room for sleeping as well.
    The nature of the physical environment of the children
    may be   set forth by a quote from a report of a social
    caseworker:
    On every visit social worker has made to the home,
    there have been clothes strewn all over the floors
    of every room. The clothes have to be stepped on
    when walking through the rooms.     Junk is piled
    everywhere and leftover food sits out on the
    kitchen table and counter tops. Dirty dish.es are
    everywhere.    A foul smell is everywhere and
    permeates everything.
    The same report contains statements that set forth the nature
    of the parental attitude and ability to control the children:
    Children literally run the streets, enga.ge in
    illegal behavior and get themselves involved in
    potentially physically and emotionally damaging
    situations.
    Neither parent is motivated to instill. in their
    children the difference between right a.nd wrong,
    respect for others and their rights, or to provide
    an adequate physical and emotional environment.
    However, although    the   evidence   shows that   the home
    environment and discipline is poor, the witnesses testified
    predominately that the children were healthy and bright.          No
    evidence demonstrated problems in school.       Therefore, of the
    facts presented, not all are neqztive.
    In   1980,     the    Montana     Department         of         Social        and
    Rehabilitative Services was granted temporary investigative
    authority of the appellants' children.                   In 1984, a petition
    for temporary legal custody of the three children was filed.
    An adjudicatory hearing was held in March of 1985 and the
    children     were    adjudicated     youths       in    need       of    care.         A
    dispositional hearing in April of 1985 resulted in an order
    that custody be granted to the Lake County Office of Human
    Services for foster home placement.               The three children were
    placed in two separate homes for an initial period of one
    year.        The     appellants      filed    this       appeal         after      the
    dispositional        order.       The     appeal        is     from      both      the
    adjudication and        disposition.         The guardiun ad litem was
    granted leave to file an amicus curiae brief.
    The first issue presented              for review is whether the
    Oistrict Court committed reversible error in failing to make
    a record of its in-chambers interview with the children.
    Near the conclusion of the adjudicatory hearing there was
    discussion     concerning      the   District      Court's          intention         to
    conduct an in-home inspection and an in-chambers interview of
    the children.        However, there is no record of, or reference
    to, the in chambers interview beyond the discussion of intent
    to   conduct    such    an    interview.          Absent       a   record        or    a
    reference, we do not know if the interview was conducted;
    however both parties treat the matter as if it was.                               The
    remaining discussion on this issue will be based                            on the
    assumption that it was conducted.
    The    appellants, in their argument that the District
    Court erred in not making a record of the interview, refer to
    S    40-4-214(1),     MCA,    contained      in   the    statutes on             child
    custody matters in marriage dissolution, which reads:
    The court may interview the child in chambers to
    ascertain the child's wishes as to his custodian
    and as to visitation. The court may permit counsel
    to be present at the interview. The court shall
    cause a record of the interview to be made and to
    be part of the record in the case.
    In further support of their argument the appellants cite
    In re Marriage of Brown (1978), 
    179 Mont. 417
    , 587 ~ . 2 d361,
    wherein       a    District Court                 did   not make       a    record of         the
    in-chambers interview with. the children in a dissolution of
    marriage          custody         proceeding.           We    remanded       in Brown         for
    reconsideration of the property division and also on the
    basis that a record of the in-chambers interview was mandated
    by statute.             Brown, 587 P.2d at 336.                  The appellants point
    out that the rationale in Brown was reiterated in Wilson v.
    Wilson    (1979), 
    180 Mont. 377
    , 
    590 P.2d 1136
    .         We did not
    reman.d in Wilson, however, because the District Court had
    entered       findings            as   to    the child's wishes              and, also, a
    witness       had       testified            as    to   what    occurred          during      the
    interview.              Wilson,        590 P.2d         at   140.      We note that no
    findings were made concerning the in-chambers interview in
    the instant case.
    The        respondent,               Sta-te, a.ttempts          to       counter       the
    appellants'          argument           on    this      issue by    pointing            out   two
    problems:          nonapplicability of the cited law and waiver.                              The
    respondent argues that S 40-4-214(l), MCA, is part of the
    Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act.                            It deals only with child
    custody       in        a    dissolution           proceeding,      and         there    is   no
    provision          in       the     child         abuse,     neglect,       and    dependency
    statutes requiring and interview to be recorded.                                  If correct,
    this same reasoning would apply to the Brown and Wilson case
    law,     as       it        dealt      with        child     custody       in     dissolution
    proceedings          al-so.            As    to waiver, the         respondent relies
    heavily on the transcript setting forth the discussion in the
    District Court concerning the District Court's intentions to
    conduct the in-home inspection and the in-chambers interview.
    The respond.ent alleges that the appellants freely consented
    to the interview between the Distrj-ct Court and the children
    when it was clear the interview would not be recorded.
    Section 40-4-214 ( I . ) , MCA, deals with child custody in a
    dissolution of marriage proceeding.         It is true that no
    provision   in   the   abuse, neglect, or   dependency   sta.tutes
    require an interview to be recorded.        However, we find no
    provision in those statues that specifically allows for an
    in-chambers interview either.
    Whether dealing with       child custody in a dissolution
    proceeding, or in an abuse, neglect, or dependency proceeding
    which may result in removing custody of a child from the
    parents, the same legal reason.ing applies to any in-chambers
    interview conducted.     That reasoning is best set forth in the
    commissioner's note to 5 40-4-214, MCA, which provid-es:
    This section       . . .
    [is] designed to permit the
    court to make custodial and visitation decisions as
    informally and non-contentiously as possible, based
    on as much relevant information as can be secured,
    while preserving a fair hearing for all interested
    parties.
    The general rule is that the judge may interview
    the child in chambers. It is often important for
    the judge to discover the attitudes and wishes of
    the ch.ild, and there is no reason to subject the
    child to the formality of the courtroom and the
    unpleasantness of     cross  examination.      This
    provision does not require the judge to permit
    counsel to be present at the interview, but he must
    make some kind of record of the interview (using a
    court reporter or a tape recorder) so that counsel
    for all parties will have access to the substance
    of the interview.
    Section 40-4-214, MCA, (Annot.)   .
    The same reasoning applies to a dispositional hearing
    concerning custody of youths in need of care.      The nature of
    the children's interest can best be gleaned from such an
    interview, while shielding the children from the rigors of
    the courtroom.       However, the parties to the dispositional
    hearing have just as great a need for access to the substance
    of the interview as do parties to a, custody in dissolution
    hearing.    Furthermore, as a matter of due process, a record
    made in-chambers provides this Court access to evidence on
    which the District Court may have relied in making its order.
    As we have explained:
    Without the record of the interview and without
    specific findings as to the wishes of the children,
    counsel and this Court do not know with any degree
    of certainty the basis for the District Court's
    conclusion on custody ma.tters.
    In re Marriage of Brown (1978), 
    179 Mont. 417
    , 426, 
    587 P.2d 361
    , 366.     We hold that a District Court may conduct an
    in-chambers interview of children in an abuse, neglect and
    dependency proceeding.      However, once the District Court, in
    its discretion, decides to hold such an interview it must
    make a record of the interview.          The respondent's argument
    that the parents' waived. their right to access to a record of
    the interview has no merit.        In the di.scussion between the
    court and the parties regarding the interview, no mention was
    made of a record and it was reasonable of the appellants to
    assume that a record would be mad-e.
    The second issue presented by the parents is whether the
    District Court's findings of fact and conclusions of law are
    supported by sufficient evidence.        For discussion, we combine
    this    issue with    the   children's   second   issue of whether
    certain reports should be disregarded by this Court because
    they were inadmissible as hearsay.
    The findings of a d.istrict court in an abuse or neglect
    action enjoy a presumption of correctness a.n.d. will not be
    overturned unless so unsupported by credible evidence as to
    amount to a clear abuse of discretion.                   In re C.M.S.        (Mont.
    1979),     
    609 P.2d 240
    ,     243,      36   St.Rep.          2004,   2008.
    Furthermore, in a bench trial, such as this, we presume the
    district judge disregarded inadmissible evidence in reaching
    his decision.          In the Matter of M.F.,           J.F. and R.W.        (Mont.
    I-982), 
    653 P.2d 1205
    , 1210, 39 St.Rep.          2103, 2109; In the
    Matter of Moyer (1977), 
    173 Mont. 208
    , 211, 
    567 P.2d 47
    , 49.
    The parents1 attorney objected to the presence in the
    court file of any statements not supported by testimony.                        We
    have cautioned that          "   [t]he possibility of error would be
    great where a trial court relied on reports not supported by
    examination at a custody hearing.''                 In the Matter of M.F.,
    2.F.    and R.W.       (Mont. 1982), 
    653 P.2d 1205
    , 1210, 39 St.Rep.
    2103, 2109.        Due process is violated if the authors of such
    reports    are     not    required       to   testify    and    be    subject to
    cross-examination.          In the Matter of Moyer (1977), 
    173 Mont. 208
    , 211, 
    567 P.2d 47
    , 49.                However, in this instance, the
    author    of     the    reports    did    testify    and    were      subject to
    cross-examination.          No evidence was presented to rebut the
    presumption that any hearsay within the reports, themselves,
    was disregarded by the District Court.                  The court explicitly
    based its findings upon the testimony of the witnesses and
    upon the reports of only those who testified.                        Therefore we
    find that the District Court properly considered only the
    admissible evidence.          However, because of the uncertainty of
    the substance of the in-chambers interview we cannot say that
    there    was     substantial      credible      evidence       to    support   the
    adjudicatory order.
    The parents also contend the District Court erred in
    indicating its intention to transfer custody from the parents
    to   the    Department of         Social and     Rehabilitation Services
    before the dispositional hearing was completed.                  The parents
    argue this made the completion of the dispositional hearing
    required by section 41-3-406, MCA, a mere formality.                     The
    mandate of section 41-3-406 is clear.               A district court may
    make    a   dispositional         order   only   after    a     dispositional
    hearing.         We have cautioned previously that "[tlo insure
    that the minors          involved    received the full protection of
    [custody]       laws,    these    procedures     should    be     'rigorously
    followed. ' "     In the Matter of Guardianship of Aschenbrenner
    (1979), 
    182 Mont. 540
    , 553, 
    597 P.2d 1156
    , 1164.                   Here, the
    record indicates the District Court stated its intention to
    transfer custody to the State three times, and before the
    parties had the opportunity to present any evidence at the
    dispositional hearing.           This is error and we reverse.
    This case is remanded in order to clearify the evidence
    relied on by the District Court to support the adjudicatory
    order and to allow for a full dispositional hearing.                     The
    children's guardian ad litem argues that because of surprise
    they were unaware that the State would recommend separating
    the child-ren,and therefore was unable to present evidence on
    that issue or effectively cross-examine the testimony which
    recommended      the    separation.        Because we     remand, another
    opportunity      to     present     the   children's     interest will    be
    afforded to counsel.
    Reversed and remanded.
    We Concur: