State v. Darr ( 2022 )


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  •                         IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF NORTH CAROLINA
    2022-NCCOA-296
    No. COA21-493
    Filed 3 May 2022
    Randolph County, No. 18-CRS-52222
    STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
    v.
    STAMEY JASON DARR
    Appeal by defendant from judgment entered 19 February 2021 by Judge V.
    Bradford Long in Randolph County Superior Court. Heard in the Court of Appeals
    26 January 2022.
    NC Prisoner Legal Services, Inc., by Marilyn G. Ozer, for Defendant-Appellant.
    Attorney General Joshua H. Stein, by Assistant Attorney General Joseph L.
    Hyde, for the State.
    CARPENTER, Judge.
    ¶1           Stamey Jason Darr (“Defendant”) was indicted on 1 October 2018 for statutory
    rape and forcible rape of the victim (“Victim”). On 19 February 2021, the trial court
    convicted Defendant of statutory rape, and he appealed. After careful review, we find
    no error.
    I. Factual & Procedural Background
    ¶2           Defendant was born on 20 May 1982, and Victim was born on 30 August 2001.
    Victim testified Defendant first had vaginal intercourse with her in 2016; Victim was
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    fourteen years old, and Defendant was thirty-three years old. Victim testified sexual
    contact between her and Defendant was consistent and continued through 2018. The
    indictment listed 2017 as the date of the vaginal intercourse. In August 2018, Victim
    told her high school guidance counselor about her sexual contacts with Defendant,
    and the counselor notified law enforcement officers.
    ¶3         Randolph County Sheriff’s Detective Sibbett requested Defendant come to the
    Sheriff’s Office to discuss a “DSS referral,” which concerned an unrelated shooting on
    Defendant’s property, and Defendant did so. Defendant was not formally arrested or
    restrained when he arrived. Defendant was interrogated by Detectives Trogden and
    Sibbett on the topic of the “DSS referral.” During interrogation, Defendant was
    allowed to leave to use the restroom and make phone calls.         After questioning
    regarding the shooting incident ceased, the interrogation shifted to Defendant’s
    relationship with Victim.
    ¶4         Detective Trogden assured Defendant he was not under arrest and told
    Defendant he could leave.     The detectives questioned Defendant about Victim’s
    allegations and played a recording of Defendant speaking with Victim. After hearing
    his recorded conversation with Victim, Defendant told the detectives he had engaged
    in vaginal intercourse with Victim multiple times in 2017 and 2018.
    ¶5         After Defendant’s confession, the detectives left the room, and a Department
    of Social Services (“DSS”) employee entered the room to speak with Defendant. After
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    the DSS employee left the room, the detectives returned, and Detective Sibbett told
    Defendant he was under arrest and would be charged.           Detective Sibbett read
    Defendant his Miranda Rights. Defendant stated, “I’ll talk to you but I want a lawyer
    with it and I don’t have the money for one.”
    ¶6         After Defendant stated he wanted “a lawyer with it,” the detectives asked
    several questions to clarify Defendant’s wishes. Detective Trogden told Defendant he
    did not see how talking with the detectives “could hurt [Defendant],” and “[he]
    want[ed] to make sure [Defendant was] willing to speak[.]” Detective Trogden then
    asked Defendant if he wished to speak without a lawyer present, if he wished to speak
    with the detectives, and if he wanted a lawyer present for questioning.
    ¶7         Detective Trogden asked Defendant to respond “yes or no” to whether
    Defendant would answer questions without an attorney present.               Defendant
    answered in the affirmative and signed a waiver of his right to counsel. Defendant
    continued to speak with the detectives; however, Defendant did not expand on his
    earlier confession after his arrest. The video of the Defendant’s interrogation by
    Detectives Sibbet and Trogden records the following exchange, in relevant part:
    Detective Sibbet: I’ve been told Detective Sibbet, who I
    understand to be a Detective, that he would like to question
    me—has also explained to me, and I understand that—I
    have the right to remain silent. That means I do not have
    to answer anything or answer any questions. Anything I
    can say can be used against me. I have the right to talk to
    a lawyer, and to have a lawyer present here with me that
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    will advise and help me during questioning. If I want to
    have a lawyer with me during questioning, but cannot
    afford one, a lawyer will be provided to me at no cost before
    our questioning. You good there?
    Defendant: Yes, sir.
    Detective Sibbet: I understand my rights as explained
    by Detective Sibbet. I now state that I do? Wish? [pause]
    to answer any questions at this time. Is that—would you
    like to talk to me?
    Defendant: I mean I do but I wanna, I don’t know what
    to do.
    Detective Trogden: We can’t make this decision for you.
    Detective Sibbet: That’s up to you, brother.
    Defendant: There’s just so much to think – I mean, am I
    going to be charged? I mean, I just, I just want to know
    that, can you tell me that?
    Detective Sibbet: We don’t set bonds, that’s completely
    up to the court.
    ...
    Detective Trogden: Before we can go any further in this
    discussing the whole matter, we need to know what you
    want to do as far as talking to us.
    Defendant: I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer with it. I
    mean, I don’t have to money to get one. . . .
    Detective Trogden: Well, the court is going to appoint
    an attorney to represent you, but just to be clear, you want
    to talk to us right now?
    Defendant: I mean, yeah.
    Detective Trogden: Okay.
    Defendant: I mean, you’ll help me, right?
    Detective Trogden: It certainly can’t hurt.
    Detective Trogden: I think us understanding the truth
    about what happened will help.
    Defendant: [Unintelligible]
    Detective Sibbet: Well yeah, this is your opportunity.
    Detective Trogden: Would it help if we read it to you
    again?
    Defendant: No sir, I know what it says.
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    Detective Trogden: Well, what we need you to do is
    initial where it says initial. . . .
    ...
    Detective Sibbet: Just so we’re clear, you do want to talk
    to us right now?
    Defendant: Yeah, I mean, I’ll talk to y’all. But I know I
    need a lawyer.
    Detective Trogden: So are you, are you saying, you want
    to talk to us with a lawyer present, are you saying that you
    want to talk to us, are you saying that you don’t walk to
    talk to us?
    Defendant: I mean I wanna talk, I wanna get this figured
    this out, so I can do whatever.
    Detective Trogden: Well, it’s very important that we’re
    clear right now as to whether or not you want an attorney.
    Do you want an attorney to be here with you now or are
    you saying that you’re willing to talk to us without an
    attorney present? Like, we understand that you’re going
    to get an attorney later to represent you for these charges.
    Defendant: So once I talk to y’all, I guess we’ll go to the
    magistrate?
    Detective Trogden: Yes sir, that’s correct, but to answer
    my question, is that a yes, or a no?
    Defendant: I mean, I’ll talk to you.
    ¶8         Defendant moved to suppress any statements given in his interrogation and
    moved to dismiss his statutory rape charge. The trial court found Defendant’s alleged
    request for counsel “equivocal” and “ambiguous,” and the trial court found Detective
    Trogden’s statements to be “a poor choice of words in light of all the circumstances”
    but not an inducement to sign the waiver. Both of Defendant’s motions were denied.
    Defendant was convicted by a jury of statutory rape of a child 15 year or younger, but
    was found not guilty of second degree forcible rape. Defendant was sentenced as a
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    prior record level II to an active term of 240 to 348 months. Defendant gave oral
    notice of appeal.
    II. Jurisdiction
    ¶9           This Court has jurisdiction to address Defendant’s appeal pursuant to N.C.
    Gen. Stat. § 7A-27(b) (2021) and N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-1444(a) (2021).
    III. Issues
    ¶ 10         The issues on appeal are whether the trial court erred in denying: (1)
    Defendant’s motion to suppress, or (2) Defendant’s motion to dismiss.
    IV. Standards of Review
    ¶ 11         Our review of a trial court’s denial of a motion to suppress is “strictly limited
    to determining whether the trial judge’s underlying findings of fact are supported by
    competent evidence, in which event they are conclusively binding on appeal, and
    whether those factual findings in turn support the judge’s ultimate conclusions of
    law.” State v. Cooke, 
    306 N.C. 132
    , 134, 
    291 S.E.2d 618
    , 619 (1982).
    ¶ 12         “This Court reviews the trial court’s denial of a motion to dismiss de novo.”
    State v. Smith, 
    186 N.C. App. 57
    , 62, 
    650 S.E.2d 29
    , 33 (2007). “Upon a defendant’s
    motion to dismiss for insufficient evidence, the question for the Court is whether
    there is substantial evidence (1) of each essential element of the offense charged . . .
    and (2) of defendant’s being the perpetrator of such offense.” State v. Cox, 
    367 N.C. 147
    , 150, 
    749 S.E.2d 271
    , 274 (2013) (internal quotations and citations omitted).
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    “Substantial evidence is such relevant evidence as a reasonable mind might accept
    as adequate to support a conclusion.” State v. Smith, 
    300 N.C. 71
    , 78-79, 
    265 S.E.2d 164
    , 169 (1980). “The evidence is to be considered in the light most favorable to the
    State, and the State is entitled to . . . every reasonable inference to be drawn
    therefrom.” Cox, 367 N.C. at 150, 749 S.E.2d at 274 (internal quotation marks and
    citations omitted).
    IV. Analysis
    A. Motion to Suppress
    ¶ 13         Defendant first contends the evidence from his interrogation should be
    suppressed because he requested and did not receive counsel.
    ¶ 14         Under the Fifth Amendment, “an accused . . . having expressed his desire to
    deal with the police only through counsel, is not subject to further interrogation by
    the authorities until counsel has been made available to him, unless the accused
    himself initiates further communication, exchanges, or conversations with the
    police.” Edwards v. Arizona, 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 484-85 (1981). A defendant has the right
    to have an attorney present during custodial interrogation “[i]f . . . he indicates . . .
    he wishes to consult with an attorney before speaking.” Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    , 444-45 (1966).
    ¶ 15          A request for counsel must be unambiguous. State v. Hyatt, 
    355 N.C. 642
    , 655,
    
    566 S.E.2d 61
    , 70 (2002) (citing Davis v. United States, 
    512 U.S. 452
    , 459 (1994)). A
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    request for counsel is unambiguous if the suspect “articulate[s] his desire to have
    counsel present sufficiently clearly that a reasonable police officer in the
    circumstances would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney.” State
    v. Golphin, 
    352 N.C. 364
    , 450, 
    533 S.E.2d 168
    , 225 (2000) (quoting Davis, 
    512 U.S. at 459
    ). “[W]hen a suspect makes an ambiguous or equivocal statement it will often be
    good police practice for the interviewing officers to clarify whether or not he actually
    wants an attorney.” State v. Taylor, 
    247 N.C. App. 221
    , 226, 
    784 S.E.2d 224
    , 228
    (2016) (quoting Davis, 
    512 U.S. at 461
    ).
    ¶ 16         The right to presence of counsel during questioning applies only to custodial
    interrogation. State v. Medlin, 
    333 N.C. 280
    , 290, 
    426 S.E.2d 402
    , 407 (1993). “[T]he
    appropriate inquiry in determining whether a defendant is ‘in custody’ for purposes
    of Miranda is, based on the totality of the circumstances, whether there was a ‘formal
    arrest or restraint on freedom of movement of the degree associated with a formal
    arrest.’” State v. Buchanan, 
    353 N.C. 332
    , 339, 
    543 S.E.2d 823
    , 828 (2001). This
    inquiry is an objective determination. Id. at 341, 
    543 S.E.2d at 829
    .
    ¶ 17         Here, Defendant came to the Randolph County Sheriff’s Office on his own
    volition. Prior to Defendant’s confessing to sexual intercourse with Victim, Detective
    Trogden told Defendant he was not under arrest and could leave.                Further,
    Defendant’s freedom of movement was not restrained; he was allowed to use the
    restroom and make phone calls. Therefore, based on the totality of the circumstances,
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    competent evidence shows Defendant was not in custody when he confessed to having
    sexual intercourse with Victim. See Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 
    291 S.E.2d at 619
    ;
    Buchanan, 353 N.C. at 339, 
    543 S.E.2d at 828
    . Defendant was not in custody when
    he first confessed and voluntarily answered the questions of the detectives.
    Therefore, an analysis of a request-for-counsel inquiry is inapplicable to Defendant’s
    initial confession. See Medlin, 
    333 N.C. at 290
    , 
    426 S.E.2d at 407
    .
    ¶ 18         After Defendant’s initial confession, the detectives arrested Defendant, read
    him his Miranda rights, and told him he would be charged. At this point, Defendant
    was in custody, as he had been formally arrested. See Buchanan, at 341, 
    543 S.E.2d at 829
    . Therefore, Defendant’s statements made after his formal arrest are subject
    to a request-for-counsel inquiry, as these statements were made during a custodial
    interrogation. See Medlin, 
    333 N.C. at 290
    , 
    426 S.E.2d at 407
    .
    ¶ 19         After Defendant was arrested, he stated, “I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer
    with it. I mean, I don’t have to money to get one.” It is unclear what Defendant meant
    by “I want a lawyer with it;” in light of his initial voluntary confession, “it” could have
    referred to the charge, the expected trial, or the interrogation.         The detectives
    repeatedly tried to clarify Defendant’s request, a practice labeled by this Court as
    “good police practice.” See Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228. Defendant
    then agreed to continue the interrogation without counsel and signed a waiver of
    counsel. In the factual context of this case, a reasonable police officer would not
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    understand Defendant’s statement as an unambiguous request for counsel during
    interrogation. See Golphin, 
    352 N.C. at 450
    , 
    533 S.E.2d at 225
    .
    ¶ 20         In his brief, Defendant cites to State v. Torres, a case overruled on several
    grounds, to assert the detectives did not seek to clarify his comments; rather,
    Defendant asserts Detective Trogden attempted to dissuade him from obtaining
    counsel. See State v. Torres, 
    330 N.C. 517
    , 
    412 S.E.2d 20
     (1992); State v. Williams,
    
    366 N.C. 110
    , 114, 
    726 S.E.2d 161
    , 165 (2012). The trial court found one of Detective
    Trogden’s comments to be a “poor choice of words,” but was not an inducement to
    waive counsel. After making the comments, Detective Trogden asked Defendant if
    he wished to speak without a lawyer present, if he wished to speak with the
    detectives, and if he wanted a lawyer present for questioning. Detective Trogden
    asked several questions that were clarifying in nature, and only one that “was a poor
    choice or words.”
    ¶ 21         Because Defendant’s statement was ambiguous, and the questions that
    followed were intended to clarify the statement, competent evidence shows
    Defendant’s right to counsel was not violated. See Hyatt, 
    355 N.C. at 655
    , 
    566 S.E.2d at 70
    ; Golphin, 
    352 N.C. at 450
    , 
    533 S.E.2d at 225
    ; Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784
    S.E.2d at 228; Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 
    291 S.E.2d at 619
    .
    ¶ 22         Accordingly, competent evidence exists to support the finding Defendant was
    not in custody until after his arrest. Any statement made prior to his arrest was valid
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    and not subject to a right-to-counsel analysis, and an analysis of Defendant’s right to
    counsel is only applicable to his statements made after arrest. See Taylor, 247 N.C.
    App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228; Medlin, 
    333 N.C. at 290
    , 
    426 S.E.2d at 407
    . The trial
    court’s findings were supported by competent evidence to show Defendant’s request
    was ambiguous at the time the request was made, and the detective’s statements
    were an attempt to clarify Defendant’s statements. Therefore, the statements made
    after Defendant’s arrest were not subject to suppression. These findings supported
    the trial court’s conclusion to deny Defendant’s motion to suppress. See Cooke, 306
    N.C. at 134, 
    291 S.E.2d at 619
    .
    B. Motion to Dismiss
    ¶ 23         Defendant argues the trial court erred in denying his motion to dismiss
    because the dates alleged in the indictment varied from Victim’s testimony, and the
    only evidence supporting the charge was imprecise testimony.
    ¶ 24         A defendant is guilty of a Class B1 felony if the defendant engages in vaginal
    intercourse with another person who is fifteen years of age or younger, and the
    defendant is at least twelve years old and six years older than the other person. 
    N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-27.25
    (a) (2021). The elements of statutory rape are: (1) vaginal
    intercourse; (2) with a child who is fifteen years old or younger; and (3) the defendant
    is at least six years older than the child. State v. Sprouse, 
    217 N.C. App. 230
    , 240,
    
    719 S.E.2d 234
    , 242 (2011).
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    ¶ 25         An indictment must allege facts supporting each element of the offense
    charged. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(5) (2021). An indictment must also identify
    the date of offense. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(4). However, “[e]rror as to a date or
    its omission is not ground for dismissal of the charges or for reversal of a conviction
    if time was not of the essence with respect to the charge and the error or omission did
    not mislead the defendant to his prejudice.” N.C. Gen. Stat. § 15A-924(a)(4).
    ¶ 26         The date given in an indictment for statutory rape “is not an essential element
    of the crime charged. . . .” State v. Norris, 
    101 N.C. App. 144
    , 151, 
    398 S.E.2d 652
    ,
    656 (1990). Particularly in cases involving the sexual abuse of children, courts are
    lenient concerning differences between dates alleged in the indictment and dates
    proven at trial. State v. McGriff, 
    151 N.C. App. 631
    , 637, 
    566 S.E.2d 776
    , 779 (2002).
    A victim’s testimony of sexual intercourse is enough to uphold a trial court’s denial of
    a motion to dismiss. State v. Estes, 
    99 N.C. App. 312
    , 316, 
    393 S.E.2d 158
    , 160 (1990);
    State v. Bruce, 
    315 N.C. 273
    , 281, 
    337 S.E.2d 510
    , 516 (1985) (stating a victim’s
    testimony the defendant penetrated her is all that is “required to permit the jury to
    find beyond a reasonable doubt that the penetration had in fact occurred”).
    ¶ 27         Here, Victim testified Defendant engaged in vaginal intercourse with her in
    2016 when she was fourteen years old, and Defendant was nineteen years her elder.
    Defendant admitted to having vaginal intercourse with Victim in 2017, but it is
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    unclear whether these occasions were before or after Victim’s fifteenth birthday. The
    date of the vaginal intercourse listed on the indictment was 2017.
    ¶ 28         Variance between the date on the indictment and Victim’s testimony is not
    enough to justify a motion to dismiss, as the date given on an indictment for statutory
    rape is not an essential element of the crime, and courts are lenient concerning dates
    in cases involving the sexual abuse of minors. See Norris, 
    101 N.C. App. at 151
    , 
    398 S.E.2d at 656
    ; McGriff, 151 N.C. App. at 637, 566 S.E.2d at 779. Therefore, Victim’s
    testimony alleging vaginal intercourse in 2016 between her and Defendant—when
    Victim was fourteen and Defendant was nineteen years her elder—is sufficient to
    survive a motion to dismiss. See Sprouse, 217 N.C. App. at 240, 719 S.E.2d at 242;
    Estes, 
    99 N.C. App. at 316
    , 
    393 S.E.2d at 160
    .
    ¶ 29         Accordingly, the trial court properly denied Defendant’s motion to dismiss, as
    relevant evidence existed to support a finding of each essential element of the offense
    charged and to maintain Defendant was the perpetrator. See Cox, 367 N.C. at 150,
    749 S.E.2d at 274; Smith, 
    300 N.C. at 78-79
    , 
    265 S.E.2d at 169
    .
    VI. Conclusion
    ¶ 30         Competent evidence exists to support the finding Defendant was not in custody
    until after his arrest. An analysis of Defendant’s right to counsel in the context of
    this case is only applicable to his confession made after his arrest. Therefore, any
    statement made prior to Defendant’s arrest—including his confession—was valid and
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    not subject to a right-to-counsel analysis.      Further, competent evidence shows
    Defendant’s request, though custodial, was ambiguous, and therefore, did not trigger
    his right to counsel. See Taylor, 247 N.C. App. at 226, 784 S.E.2d at 228; Medlin, 
    333 N.C. at 290
    , 
    426 S.E.2d at 407
    ; Cooke, 306 N.C. at 134, 
    291 S.E.2d at 619
    .
    ¶ 31         Lastly, the trial court properly denied Defendant’s motion to dismiss the
    charge of statutory rape, as relevant evidence existed to support a finding of each
    essential element of the offense charged and to maintain Defendant was the
    perpetrator. See Cox, 367 N.C. at 150, 749 S.E.2d at 274; Smith, 
    300 N.C. at 78-79
    ,
    
    265 S.E.2d at 169
    . Accordingly, we find no error in the jury’s verdict or in the
    judgment entered thereon.
    NO ERROR
    Judge TYSON concurs.
    Judge ARROWOOD concurs in separate opinion.
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    ARROWOOD, Judge, concurring in result.
    ¶ 32         I concur in the result of the majority opinion affirming defendant’s conviction,
    and further concur in the majority’s analysis regarding defendant’s initial confession
    and motion to dismiss. I write separately, however, to address defendant’s request
    for counsel during the custodial interrogation. Although the majority concludes
    defendant’s request was ambiguous and Detective Trogdon’s questions were “good
    police practice” aimed at clarifying defendant’s request, I believe defendant’s request
    was sufficiently clear and unambiguous.
    ¶ 33         As the majority correctly notes, a defendant must make an unambiguous
    request for counsel which articulates their desire to have an attorney present at
    custodial interrogation, “sufficiently clearly that a reasonable police officer in the
    circumstances would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney.” See
    State v. Hyatt, 
    355 N.C. 642
    , 655, 
    566 S.E.2d 61
    , 70 (2002) (citation omitted); State v.
    Golphin, 
    352 N.C. 364
    , 450, 
    533 S.E.2d 168
    , 225 (2000) (citations and quotation
    marks omitted).
    There are no “magic words” which must be uttered in order
    to invoke one’s right to counsel. The crucial determination
    is whether the person has indicated “in any manner” a
    desire to have the help of an attorney during custodial
    interrogation. . . . In deciding whether a person has
    invoked [their] right to counsel, therefore, a court must
    look not only at the words spoken, but the context in which
    they are spoken as well.
    State v. Barber, 
    335 N.C. 120
    , 130, 
    436 S.E.2d 106
    , 111 (1993) (quoting State v. Torres,
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    330 N.C. 517
    , 528, 
    412 S.E.2d 20
    , 26 (1992)). “[A] statement either is such an
    assertion of the right to counsel or it is not.” Davis v. United States, 
    512 U.S. 452
    ,
    459, 
    129 L. Ed. 2d 362
    , 371 (1994) (citation and quotation marks omitted). “If a
    criminal suspect invokes his right to counsel at any time during custodial
    interrogation, the interrogation must cease, and it cannot be resumed in the absence
    of an attorney unless the defendant initiates further discussion with the officers.”
    Hyatt, 
    355 N.C. at 655
    , 566 S.E.2d at 70 (citations omitted).
    ¶ 34         In Davis, the United States Supreme Court held that a defendant’s statement,
    “Maybe I should talk to a lawyer,” made an hour and a half into his interrogation,
    was not a request for counsel. Davis, 
    512 U.S. at 462
    , 
    129 L. Ed. 2d at 373
    . In Hyatt,
    the North Carolina Supreme Court held that a defendant’s statements were
    insufficient to constitute an invocation of his Fifth Amendment right to counsel
    because the statements “conveyed his father’s wish that [defendant] get an attorney,”
    but did not unambiguously convey defendant’s own desire to receive the assistance of
    counsel. Hyatt, 
    355 N.C. at 656-57
    , 566 S.E.2d at 71. Similarly, in State v. Dix, this
    Court held that a defendant’s statement, “I’m probably gonna have to have a lawyer,”
    was not sufficiently unambiguous when taken out of context. State v. Dix, 
    194 N.C. App. 151
    , 156, 
    669 S.E.2d 25
    , 28 (2008), writ denied, disc. review denied, appeal
    dismissed, 
    363 N.C. 376
    , 
    679 S.E.2d 140
     (2009).
    ¶ 35         In this case, once defendant was formally arrested, he initially expressed
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    uncertainty about what he wanted to do. Detective Sibbett told defendant that the
    detectives “need to know what [defendant] want[s] to do as far as talking” with them,
    and defendant responded “I’ll talk but I want to hire a lawyer with it. I mean, I don’t
    have the money to get one . . . .” The following exchange ensued:
    Detective Trogdon: Well, the court is going to appoint an
    attorney to represent you, okay, but just to be clear, you
    want to talk to us right now?
    Defendant: I mean, yeah.
    Detective Trogdon: Okay.
    Defendant: I mean you’ll help me right?
    Detective Trogdon: It certainly can’t hurt.
    Detective Trogdon offered to read defendant his rights again, but defendant stated
    that he knew “what [the paper] says.” Detective Trogdon then directed defendant to
    sign, date and initial a form indicating that he waived his right to have counsel
    present for the interrogation.     After defendant returned the completed form,
    Detective Sibbett again asked, “[j]ust so we’re clear, you do want to talk to us right
    now?” Defendant responded, “[y]eah, I mean, I’ll talk to y’all. But I know I need a
    lawyer.”
    ¶ 36         Detective Trogdon then asked, “are you saying that you want to talk to us with
    a lawyer present, or are you saying that you want to talk to us, or are you saying that
    you don’t want to talk with us?” Defendant responded, “I wanna talk, I want to get
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    this figured out so I can . . . do whatever, I mean . . . .” Detective Trogdon responded
    that it was “very important that we’re clear right now as to whether or not you want
    an attorney. Do you want an attorney to be here with you now or are you saying that
    you’re willing to talk to us without an attorney present?” Detective Trogdon noted
    that defendant was “going to get an attorney later to represent [him] for these
    charges.” Defendant responded, “[s]o once I talk to y’all, I guess we’ll go to the
    magistrate?” Detective Trogdon told defendant that was correct, and asked regarding
    his previous question, “is that a yes, or a no[,]” to which defendant responded, “I
    mean, I’ll talk to you.”
    ¶ 37          Although defendant initially expressed some willingness to speak with police,
    his statements were also clear that he wanted a lawyer before doing so. Rather than
    ceasing the interrogation at that point, Detective Trogdon stated that counsel would
    be appointed and framed defendant’s statements as an indication that he “want[ed]
    to talk to” the detectives. When Detective Sibbett made a similar inquiry, defendant
    again stated “[b]ut I know I need a lawyer.”
    ¶ 38          This case is distinguishable from the aforementioned cases where defendants
    stated that they “maybe” or “probably” needed to speak with a lawyer before custodial
    interrogation, or failed to articulate their own desires. Instead, defendant stated that
    he would talk to police, “but I want a lawyer with it . . . [and] I don’t have the money
    to get one . . . .” (emphasis added). This was an unequivocal, unambiguous request
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    for counsel, combined with a statement that defendant could not afford to hire
    counsel.   Once defendant told Detective Trogdon that he wanted a lawyer, the
    custodial interrogation should have ceased, and Detective Trogdon’s statements,
    including stating how he did not see how talking to police “could hurt [defendant],”
    were improper. This is especially clear given defendant’s later statement reasserting
    his desire for the assistance of counsel. Although defendant eventually did agree to
    talk with the detectives after a more detailed inquiry, the interrogation should have
    ceased prior to that point. As the United States Supreme Court held, a defendant’s
    statement is either “an assertion of the right to counsel or it is not[,]” and in this case
    a reasonable police officer should have understood defendant’s statement was an
    invocation of his right to counsel. Davis, 
    512 U.S. at 459
    , 
    129 L. Ed. 2d at 371
     (citation
    and quotation marks omitted).
    ¶ 39         Nevertheless, because defendant’s initial confession was made voluntarily and
    prior to custodial interrogation, the trial court’s decision regarding the suppression
    of defendant’s later statements amounts to harmless error. And although the trial
    court’s error does not impact the result of this appeal, I believe it is important to set
    out the correct analysis rather than perpetuating the trial court’s error.