DCPP VS. T.R., E.G., AND R.W., IN THE MATTER OF THE GUARDIANSHIP OF K.P.H. AND Z.R.H. (FG-07-0164-17, ESSEX COUNTY AND STATEWIDE) (RECORD IMPOUNDED) ( 2019 )


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    SUPERIOR COURT OF NEW JERSEY
    APPELLATE DIVISION
    DOCKET NO. A-1950-17T4
    NEW JERSEY DIVISION
    OF CHILD PROTECTION
    AND PERMANENCY,
    Plaintiff-Respondent,
    v.
    T.R.,
    Defendant-Appellant/
    Cross-Respondent,
    and
    E.G. and R.W.,
    Defendants.
    _______________________________
    IN THE MATTER OF THE
    GUARDIANSHIP OF K.P.H.
    and Z.R.H., Minors,
    Respondents/Cross-Appellants.
    _______________________________
    Argued October 24, 2019 – Decided December 9, 2019
    Before Judges Suter and DeAlmeida.
    On appeal from the Superior Court of New Jersey,
    Chancery Division, Family Part, Essex County, Docket
    No. FG-07-0164-17.
    Bruce Pozu Lee, Designated Counsel, argued the cause
    for appellant/cross-respondent (Joseph E. Krakora,
    Public Defender, attorney; Robyn A. Veasey, Deputy
    Public Defender, of counsel; Bruce Pozu Lee, on the
    briefs).
    Rachel E. Seidman, Assistant Deputy Public Defender,
    argued the cause for respondents/cross-appellants
    (Joseph E. Krakora, Public Defender, Law Guardian,
    attorney; Rachel E. Seidman, on the brief).
    Erika Carmona Callejas, Deputy Attorney General,
    argued the cause for respondent (Gurbir S. Grewal,
    Attorney General, attorney; Jason Wade Rockwell,
    Assistant Attorney General, of counsel; Erika Carmona
    Callejas, on the brief).
    PER CURIAM
    Defendant T.R. (Tamara) appeals and her children, Z.R.H. (Zoe) and
    K.P.H. (Kelly),1 cross-appeal from a December 13, 2017 final judgment of
    guardianship terminating parental rights to Zoe and Kelly.2 Tamara claims the
    1
    We have used fictitious names for the parties throughout the opinion to
    maintain their confidentiality. R. 1:38-3(d)(12).
    2
    The judgment terminated the parental rights of the children's fathers. They
    did not appeal the judgment.
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    Division of Child Protection and Permanency (DCPP) did not prove the statutory
    requirements under N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a). The Law Guardian for Zoe and
    Kelly does not challenge the trial court's finding that Tamara harmed the
    children, but contends there was insufficient evidence for the trial court's
    findings under other portions of the statute. We vacate the judgment as to
    Tamara because the trial court erred by finding DCPP had proven the fourth
    prong of the best interest test—whether termination of parental rights would not
    do more harm than good.
    I.
    Tamara is the biological mother of Zoe, born in May 2003, and Kelly,
    born in August 2005. She has two other daughters, who do not live with her.
    Her son, K.B. (Kevin), born in November 2000, was in DCPP's custody,
    preparing for independent living. He is not part of this case.
    DCPP responded to nearly twenty referrals about Tamara and her children
    between 2001 to 2015. In 2006, Tamara hit Zoe across her face while they were
    attending a doctor's appointment. DCPP substantiated 3 Tamara for this physical
    abuse of Zoe. In 2008 and 2009, DCPP investigated complaints about drug
    3
    "Substantiated" means DCPP found by a preponderance of the evidence that a
    child was abused or neglected as defined by N.J.S.A. 9:6-8.21. See N.J.A.C.
    3A:10-7.3(c)(1).
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    abuse, unsanitary living conditions and failure to obtain medical evaluations for
    Kevin, all of which were unfounded. In 2009, Tamara agreed with DCPP to
    implement a safety protection plan because her boyfriend physically abused her
    in front of the children. She then violated the plan by allowing him in the home,
    and DCPP removed the children for the first time in December 2009. Later,
    both Zoe and Kelly told their therapist that Tamara's boyfriend sexually
    assaulted Kelly. DCPP substantiated Tamara for neglect and the family received
    services. The children were returned to her care in February 2011.
    In October 2011, DCPP deemed unfounded allegations of abuse of Kelly
    by Tamara's brother. Zoe complained that Tamara hit her repeatedly and slapped
    her in the face, but this was "unfounded" according to DCPP. DCPP investigated
    a referral in 2014 about the condition of Tamara's home—that it was "nasty" and
    had little food. Her attendance at group counseling was intermittent. Tamara
    repeatedly tested positive for marijuana and alcohol. She confirmed she had a
    bipolar disorder.
    In January 2015, DCPP investigated a referral that Tamara's boyfriend
    was touching Zoe inappropriately. Zoe later admitted that she had not been
    truthful about the allegation. In early July 2015, DCPP investigated a referral
    that Tamara had not intervened in a fight between Kevin and Tamara's friend,
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    Alexandra. Later that month, Tamara again did not intercede when Kevin was
    involved in a fight with her boyfriend and several of his relatives. DCPP
    removed the children from Tamara's care for the second time.                She was
    substantiated for neglect after she stipulated to being present and not intervening
    during both of the fights.4
    Tamara did not successfully complete the outpatient substance abuse
    program, testing positive for marijuana and being non-compliant with
    attendance and services provided. Her participation in a program to treat both
    her bipolar and substance abuse disorders also was not successful. Although she
    showed improvement in 2016, she relapsed in 2017. Throughout these periods,
    Tamara exercised regular visitation with the children. DCPP had no concerns
    with the visits or Tamara's engagement with her daughters.
    In January 2017, DCPP filed a complaint for guardianship seeking to
    terminate parental rights to Zoe and Kelly. Following a six-day trial in which
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    Kevin exhibited behavioral issues. In 2008, he set fire to a couch in the middle
    of the night. He was hospitalized because he heard voices telling him to do bad
    things and was taking medication. He repeatedly addressed Tamara by using
    the pejorative term, "bitch." He damaged the walls of Tamara's bedroom with a
    baseball bat, threatened her with a knife, and refused to take his medication.
    Tamara told a doctor "'I don't give a sh*t about this little piece of crap'; referring
    to [Kevin]."
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    Tamara did not testify, the trial court entered a judgment of guardianship
    terminating parental rights.
    DCPP's caseworker testified that the goal initially was reunification but
    after the children were removed a second time in August 2015 and Tamara
    continued to relapse, DCPP's goal changed to select home adoption because the
    children were too young for independent living, and there were no available
    relatives to adopt them. She testified Kelly did not want to be adopted. If she
    could not move back with her mother, she wanted to stay at her resource home.
    Zoe wanted to finish school and move back with her mother. If she had to be
    adopted, she wanted to get to know the family.
    DCPP's adoption supervisor testified that DCPP could locate an adoptive
    home for both girls and believed their ages, twelve and fourteen at the time of
    trial, and mental health issues would not prevent their adoption. They were not
    in an adoptive home at the time. The children would need to consent to adoption
    because of their ages. If the children were legally freed for adoption, DCPP
    would conduct a nationwide search for a home.
    Kelly testified in chambers. She was living in her third resource home
    where things were going "great." She did not want her mother's parental rights
    to be terminated because she loved her mother and did not want to be adopted.
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    She told the court her "heart will be shattered and twisted . . . into a million
    pieces[,]" suggesting to the court "we should go home because . . . like I also
    hurt."
    Earlier, in her letter to the trial court, she wrote:
    I miss my mom. If I go home I want a house that is
    stable. Also that is safe without man [sic] running in
    and out of the house. Also[,] that make[s] sure [that] I
    have food to eat. And that make[s] sure I have clean
    colth[es]. I want my mom to quti [sic] somking [sic].
    And make sure we live in a safe neighdorhood [sic]
    . . . . If all of this don't happen I would still want to go
    home because I don't want mommy to be alone . . . .
    Dr. Samiris Sostre, M.D., conducted a psychiatric examination of Tamara
    in May 2017.         She testified Tamara exhibited acute symptoms of mania,
    consistent with a diagnosis for bipolar disorder, marked by reported mood
    disturbance, difficulty sleeping and eating, irritability, and mood swings. She
    showed a "rollercoaster" of emotions during the interview. Although Tamara
    claimed to be taking multiple medications that she could not identify, Dr. Sostre
    testified that these needed to be adjusted, yet Tamara had not sought help. Dr.
    Sostre concluded Tamara suffers from manic bipolar disorder, cannabis use
    disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, and unstable mental illness.            She
    required medication monitoring, counseling and therapy on a consistent b asis.
    Dr. Sostre concluded that Tamara lacked the ability at this time to "appropriately
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    parent her children" because her mental health conditions "interfere[d] with her
    ability to modulate her emotions, make appropriate judgments and . . .
    impair[ed] her decision making." Her psychiatric disorders, substance abuse,
    and poor compliance with treatment plans also interfered with her ability to
    parent.
    Dr. Eric Kirschner, Ph.D., testified about the psychological and bonding
    evaluations he conducted. Tamara spoke rapidly, and was irritable and agitated
    during the evaluation.   She acknowledged having difficulty sleeping.         She
    described herself as "recovering" from marijuana use. She lacked insight "into
    how to stabilize her mood, and when her mood is becoming unstable . . . ." She
    did not take responsibility for the children's removal. She denied receiving any
    benefit from treatment or counseling, which she described as a "waste of her
    time." She had a poor attitude about recovery and did not prioritize it. He
    testified that self-medicating with marijuana was not a long-term solution.
    Dr. Kirschner's bonding evaluation concluded that a child-parent bond
    existed between Tamara and her children although at different levels for Kelly
    and Zoe. Kelly was happy to see Tamara while Zoe was more reserved. Zoe
    was reluctant to return to her mother. Kelly felt sad without her mother and
    preferred reunification to adoption. She wanted to continue to see her mother if
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    she were adopted. Dr. Kirschner concluded there was a bond between Tamara
    and the children, but the attachment had "insecure qualities . . . ."
    He concluded that both children "would be vulnerable to experience a
    negative reaction" to termination, but Tamara could not meet their "needs for
    safety, protection, nurturance, stability, [and] guidance at this time or in the
    foreseeable future[,]" and that her prognosis to do so in the future was "poor."
    Because this was the second time the children were removed and it had been two
    years, he opined that "delay in their achieving permanency . . . had a negative
    impact on their psychological well-being" and that further delay was "counter-
    indicated." The children needed therapy to "offset the impact of harm." Another
    failed reunification with Tamara would be "further harmful or detrimental" to
    Zoe and Kelly.      He agreed with DCPP's plan for select home adoption,
    concluding that "termination of [Tamara's] parental rights to [Kelly] and [Zoe]
    will not do them more harm than good as it will give them an opportunity to
    attain permanence that [Tamara] is not able to provide at this time or in the
    foreseeable future." He testified the children would be harmed if parental rights
    were not terminated because they then could not be adopted.
    On cross-examination he testified that it would not be "a positive
    outcome" if the children were legally freed for adoption but not adopted. Both
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    the lack of adoption and the lack of termination of parental rights were "negative
    outcomes." He testified, "I think they're both undesirable outcomes. If . . . [I]
    had to pick one versus the other, I would say that to go through the route of . . .
    [termination of parental rights] and not getting adopted would . . . probably be
    more negatively impactful for her." He concluded with his opinion that "giving
    these children the opportunity to have permanency is what is truly in their best
    interests."
    The trial court entered a judgment terminating Tamara's parental rights to
    Zoe and Kelly, finding that each prong of the "best interests of the child" test
    under N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a) was satisfied by clear and convincing evidence.
    Under prong one, the court found Tamara harmed Zoe and Kelly by physical
    abuse, failure to protect them and a general failure to intervene. She also placed
    the children at risk of harm because of her inability to protect them, her
    substance abuse and her mental health instability, none of which were likely to
    improve in the foreseeable future according to DCPP's expert witnesses.
    Under prong two, the court found that Tamara was not able to overcome
    the risks she posed to the children despite therapy, counseling and substance
    abuse treatment. She continued to test positive for marijuana and alcohol. Her
    mental health conditions prevented her from being able to parent the children in
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    the foreseeable future. She did not provide them with a safe and stable home.
    The court found that delay in providing permanency would add to these harms.
    Under prong three, the trial court found that DCPP provided ample
    services to Tamara to overcome the harms she posed to the children. DCPP
    provided services to Tamara which "spanned almost a decade," including:
    "psychological evaluations, psychiatric evaluation, board rate, paternity testing,
    visitation, substance abuse assessment, substance abuse treatment, homemaker
    services, follow-up with psychiatrists, MICA referrals, domestic violence
    counseling and therapy, safety protection plans, Regional Diagnostic Treatment
    Center evaluations, minimum visitation requirements, individual counseling,
    Family Preservation Services, family placement assessments and bonding
    evaluation." The trial court considered other alternatives to termination, such
    as placement with relatives, Kinship Legal Guardian, independent living, and
    long-term specialized care, but these options were not feasible for Zoe or Kelly.
    Independent living was not possible since neither child had reached the
    minimum age of sixteen by the time of trial.
    The court concluded prong four was satisfied although DCPP had not
    identified a person or family willing to adopt Zoe or Kelly because delaying
    permanency was "counter[-]indicated at this time." The trial court relied on Dr.
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    Kirschner's report and testimony. He had concluded that termination of parental
    rights would not do more harm than good and would give the children the ability
    to attain permanence that their mother could not provide. The court noted that
    Kelly wanted to be reunified with her mother "under any circumstance." The
    court questioned her "maturity to know and understand her own basic needs."
    The court found the children needed stability and permanency that Tamara could
    not provide.
    The court noted there was no adoptive home identified, but that the
    "uncontroverted expert opinion" was that the children "will not suffer severe and
    enduring harm" by terminating their mother's rights.          DCPP's adoption
    supervisor testified "confidently" that DCPP could find a "suitable adoptive
    home." There was no suggestion the children are not adoptable. The court found
    the girls deserved a chance at a permanent and stable home, which was not
    possible with their mother. The court found by clear and convincing evidence
    that termination of Tamara's rights would not do more harm than good.
    On appeal, Tamara contends there was insufficient credible evidence to
    support the trial court's findings under any of the four prongs. With respect to
    the fourth prong, Tamara argues the trial court committed legal error by ordering
    termination without a compensating benefit because there was no parent or
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    family willing to adopt the children. She argues the court applied the wrong
    standard in analyzing the fourth prong and that it drew erroneous implications
    from the facts. Tamara argues the first prong was not satisfied because Kevin's
    behavior was violent and reprehensible. The court erred by concluding that
    Tamara was not willing to eliminate harms because it never considered the use
    of marijuana as a therapeutic remedy. Under the third prong, she argued that
    independent living was a viable alternative for the children.
    The Law Guardian contends in the cross-appeal that although prong one—
    harm to the children—was satisfied, termination was not in the children's best
    interests. The Law Guardian argues termination would do more harm than good,
    Tamara should have been given another opportunity to provide a safe and stable
    home, and the psychiatric services provided to Tamara were inadequate.
    II.
    "Our review of a trial judge's decision to terminate parental rights is
    limited." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. G.L., 
    191 N.J. 596
    , 605 (2007)
    (citing In re Guardianship of J.N.H., 
    172 N.J. 440
    , 472 (2002)). Factual findings
    that are supported by adequate, substantial and credible evidence "should not be
    disturbed unless 'they are so wholly insupportable as to result in a denial of
    justice[.]'" Rova Farms Resort, Inc. v. Inv'rs Ins. Co. of Am., 
    65 N.J. 474
    , 483-
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    84 (1974) (quoting Greenfield v. Dusseault, 
    60 N.J. Super. 436
    , 444 (App. Div.),
    aff'd o.b., 
    33 N.J. 78
     (1960)); see also In re Guardianship of J.T., 
    269 N.J. Super. 172
    , 188 (App. Div. 1993).
    We must accord substantial deference to the findings of the Family Part
    due to that court's "special jurisdiction and expertise in family matters . . . ."
    Cesare v. Cesare, 
    154 N.J. 394
    , 413 (1998). Our review is expanded, however,
    where the error alleged is "in the trial judge's evaluation of the underlying facts
    and the implications to be drawn therefrom . . . ." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family
    Servs. v. R.G., 
    217 N.J. 527
    , 552 (2014).
    A parent has a fundamental right to enjoy a relationship with his or her
    child. In re Guardianship of K.H.O., 
    161 N.J. 337
    , 346-47 (1999). These rights
    "are not absolute," but are "tempered by the State's parens patriae responsibility
    to protect the welfare of children." 
    Id. at 347
    . The standard by which the rights
    of the parents and the interests of the State in the welfare of the child are
    balanced is "through the best interests of the child standard." 
    Ibid.
     The statute
    sets forth four criteria that DCPP must prove by clear and convincing evidence.
    N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. F.M., 
    211 N.J. 420
    , 447 (2012).
    In considering the first prong of the statutory test, the concern is "whether
    the parent has harmed the child or may harm the child in the foreseeable future."
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    N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. C.S., 
    367 N.J. Super. 76
    , 113 (App. Div.
    2004) (citing N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs. v. A.W., 
    103 N.J. 591
    , 607
    (1986)).   In assessing whether the child has been harmed by the parental
    relationship, "a parent or guardian's past conduct can be relevant and admissible
    in determining risk of harm to the child." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family Servs.
    v. I.H.C., 
    415 N.J. Super. 551
    , 573 (App. Div. 2010). DCPP must demonstrate
    "that the harm is likely to continue because the parent is unable or unwilling to
    overcome or remove the harm." K.H.O., 
    161 N.J. at 348
    .
    There was no error by the trial judge in finding that Tamara harmed the
    children and continued to pose a danger to the children's "safety, health or
    development" as set forth in prong one of the statutory test.           She was
    substantiated for abuse and for neglect. She exposed the children to physical
    harm, sexual abuse and neglect but took no responsibility for this. She continued
    to use marijuana and alcohol despite treatment. She did not consider useful the
    therapy and counseling she obtained to assist her with parenting, to learn how
    to control her bipolar disorder or to identify when she needed to ask for help.
    All of these circumstances posed harm or potential harm to the children's safety
    and health.
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    Under the second prong, the trial court was required to determine whether
    it is "reasonably foreseeable that the parents can cease to inflict harm upon the
    [child] . . . ." A.W., 
    103 N.J. at 607
    . The court considers "whether the parent
    is fit, but also whether he or she can become fit within time to assume the
    parental role necessary to meet the child's needs." N.J. Div. of Youth & Family
    Servs. v. R.L., 
    388 N.J. Super. 81
    , 87 (App. Div. 2006) (citing In re
    Guardianship of J.C., 
    129 N.J. 1
    , 10 (1992)).
    We find no error in the trial court's determination based on the unrebutted
    testimony and reports of Drs. Kirschner and Sostre that Tamara was unable or
    unwilling to eliminate the harms that caused the children to be removed. The
    children had been removed from her custody earlier and despite a host of
    services, she continued to abuse marijuana and did not address her mental health
    issues. She exposed the children to harm from the relationships that she had
    with men. Both experts testified that Tamara would not be able to parent her
    children now or into the foreseeable future.
    The third prong under the statute requires DCPP to show that it "has made
    reasonable efforts to provide services to help the parent[s] correct the
    circumstances which led to the child's placement outside the home and the court
    has considered alternatives to termination of parental rights." N.J.S.A. 30:4C -
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    15.1(a)(3). With respect to this prong, the trial court's opinion recounted the
    numerous services provided to Tamara for nearly a decade. The court also
    considered alternatives to termination of parental rights as required under the
    third prong analysis. N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a)(3). Here, DCPP explored other
    relatives to determine if the children could reside with them, explored kinship
    legal guardianship but there was no adult over eighteen who could be
    responsible for the children, and at the time of the trial, neither child was old
    enough for independent living.      We are satisfied the trial court took into
    consideration all the services offered and the efforts made in trying to place the
    children in its finding that the third prong of the statutory test was met by clear
    and convincing proof.5
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    Tamara suggests the trial court should have considered whether medical
    marijuana was an alternative treatment of her bipolar disorder. We are not
    required to consider this argument because it was not raised before the trial
    court. See State v. Galicia, 
    210 N.J. 364
    , 383 (2012) (providing that
    "[g]enerally, an appellate court will not consider issues . . . which were not
    raised below."). If we were to do so, Dr. Kirschner testified that marijuana was
    not a long-term solution to Tamara's mental health issues. That testimony was
    unrebutted.
    The Law Guardian argues Tamara was not provided with adequate mental
    health services because her bipolar disorder was not stabilized. It presented no
    evidence there was treatment that would have done so or that the treatment she
    was receiving was inappropriate for her disorder. The testimony was that
    Tamara considered the services provided to be a waste of her time.
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    Under the fourth statutory prong, the question is whether "[t]ermination
    of parental rights will not do more harm than good." N.J.S.A. 30:4C-15.1(a)(4).
    "Prong four 'serves as a fail-safe against termination even where the remaining
    standards have been met.'" N.J. Div. Youth and Fam. Servs. v. E.P., 
    196 N.J. 88
    , 108 (2008) (quoting G.L., 
    191 N.J. at 609
    ). "It has been 'suggested that [a]
    decision to terminate parental rights should not simply extinguish an
    unsuccessful parent-child relationship without making provision for . . . a more
    promising relationship . . . [in] the child's future.'" 
    Ibid.
     (quoting A.W., 
    103 N.J. at 610
     (alterations in original) (quotation omitted)).
    "[P]ermanent placement with a loving family" is the goal where
    "reunification is improbable." 
    Ibid.
     However, "courts have recognized that
    terminating parental rights without any compensating benefit, such as adoption,
    may do great harm to a child." 
    Id.
     at 109 (citing A.W., 
    103 N.J. at 610-11
    ). As
    the Court observed in A.W., "th[is] detriment may be greater than keeping the
    parent-child relationship intact since the child's psychological and emotional
    bond to the parent may have been broken with nothing substituted in its place."
    
    103 N.J. at 611
    . It requires the trial court to balance the harms suffered from
    terminating parental rights against the good that will result from terminating
    these rights. See K.H.O., 
    161 N.J. at 363
    ; see also A.W., 
    103 N.J. at 610-11
    .
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    In E.P., the issue was whether the mother's parental rights to her thirteen-
    year-old daughter, who was "psychologically fragile[,]" should be terminated
    where the daughter had been in seven different foster homes, had an emotional
    bond with her mother and there was no identified adoptive alternative. 
    196 N.J. at 109
    . The Court described the child's hope of adoption as "slim" and "bleak".
    
    Ibid.
     It observed that termination of her mother's rights did "not appear to have
    any real compensating benefit" based on testimony that the prospect of attaching
    to another person was "closing real fast." 
    Ibid.
    The trial court ordered termination of parental rights so that the child had
    "at least an opportunity for permanency . . . ." 
    Id. at 110
    . The Court reversed
    the decision. It noted that although permanency was the goal, neither the State
    legislature nor the United States Congress "has stated that the unlikely
    possibility of permanency in the future should outweigh a strong and supportive
    relationship with a natural parent." 
    Id. at 110-11
    .
    We part company with the trial court on its finding that prong four was
    proven by clear and convincing evidence. Prong four is to be informed through
    expert testimony. See N.J. Div. Youth and Fam. Servs. v. M.M., 
    189 N.J. 261
    ,
    281 (2007). In this case, Dr. Kirschner's opinion was that even though an
    adoptive alternative had not been identified for these children, termination
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    would not do more harm than good. He concluded the children would be harmed
    if they languished without being free for the opportunity to be adopted.
    Critically, however, he acknowledged if the children were not adopted, the same
    type of harm would occur; this would be negative for the children in the same
    way. When asked to compare the harm that would result if parental rights were
    not terminated and the harm that would occur if there were termination, but no
    adoption, Dr. Kirschner testified that both outcomes were undesirable but not
    "getting adopted would . . . probably be more negatively impactful for her." He
    concluded, however, that "the opportunity to have permanenc[y]" was in the
    children's "best interests."
    The trial court's opinion did not note Dr. Kirschner's testimony that the
    harm of not being adopted was worse than the harm that could occur if the
    children were not freed for adoption. It was this testimony that was critical. Dr.
    Kirschner's testimony on cross-examination did not support the finding that
    more harm will occur to these children if their mother's rights are not terminated
    than if they are and they are not adopted. In fact, Dr. Kirschner said the opposite.
    That a child might be adopted was not enough in E.P. to sever the bond between
    the child and parent. 
    196 N.J. at 111
    . The Court in E.P. reversed the decision
    to terminate parental rights where the trial court's basis for termination was to
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    give the child "at least an opportunity for permanency" when there was no "real
    compensating benefit . . . ." 
    Id. at 109-10
    .
    Here, no adoptive home was identified for Zoe and Kelly. The children
    are older. They will require therapy. DCPP prefers that they be adopted
    together, which means that there has to be a family or person willing to adopt
    both children. The children must consent to adoption. Kelly does not want to
    be adopted. Zoe is "on the fence" about adoption. The adoption supervisor
    remained positive the children would be adopted and the court found that to be
    credible. Even if the adoption supervisor is correct that adoption can occur for
    these children, the trial court was faced with evidence that, at best, was in
    equipoise especially in light of Dr. Kirschner's testimony on cross-examination.
    These proofs were not clear and convincing.
    We vacate the judgment only to the extent that it terminated Tamara's
    parental rights to Zoe and Kelly. We remand this case to the trial court for
    further proceedings to determine, based on current information, whether the
    children should be prepared for independent living and whether Tamara should
    be given an additional opportunity to reunify with the children.
    A-1950-17T4
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